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Warcraft ogers are really cool. Ogers are often described as dim witted and slow. But often a ogers arrogance is mistaken for stupidity. And them being stupid is generally false stereotype, propagated by races who didn’t live Draenor Ogers are one of the frist empires on Drannor and were extremely successful. They even had more culture and art than the orcs. Now most of that culture was built on orc slave labor. The Ogers inslaving Orcs is a massive plot line. The Ogers descended from rock giants and the Orcs are actually descendants of Ogers. There extremely selfish and because of the horde they lost a lot of culture and after the end of second war they where shattered. The orcs were also stereotyped as stupid after the second war. But they rebounded because of thrall and his sense of direction. The Ogres didn’t have a Thrall, like the orcs did. Btw there are Ogres who follow thrall. My point is that they didn’t have a unified identity as ogers. But yeah Warcraft Ogers aren’t inherently nasty, and disgusting. They’re just selfish. Btw the Ogers are more cultured then Orcs, but Ogers has whole rank second lowest. This is because most races are monsters, or are barely not a monster, but there civilian and race is so primitive. and the other races are up tight A they will never be playable. And the ones that could be playable are your a holes who are socially isolated, so they have tones of shit they don’t share. So the not elf’s. Btw when I mean not playable, I mean in a general role play way setting as a main character.

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Warcraft orcs are flanderized as being nice boys. Most orc clans were nice, relative to other things on Draenor. Only a few could be actually considered “nice”. The laughing skulls, hell screams and shattered hand. Are nicer than the other things in there environment. Because Draenor is a shit hole. The orcs were then corrupted with demon blood and taken to azeroth. On azeroth there on the top of food chain, and story of the orcs is about environmentalism and a pray now becoming the predator. The nicer elements of the orcs in modern Warcraft were set up by doom hammer and followed through with Thrall. A few quests has you kill orcs who didn’t change with the horde. And the fall of Garrosh is because he’s trying to be an old orc. And soar fang the guy you have images up off. Has a mid life crises in bfa, because he’s old enough to have seen all the warchiefs and knows orcs are assholes. Look up the cinematic negotiation. Old orcs before there corruption are more like Klingons. Klingons are a massive influence on Warcraft orcs.

In Warcraft Orcs live on Dannor. And on there there the Human equivalates. Ogres are the ancestors of the orcs, and the half Orcs half Ogers formed there own clan. This clan has stable population. The orcs don't like them but work with them, because there often the slaves of Ogers, while the Ogers are basically pure evil. So half Oger orcs are sort of the half Orcs half humans on the setting. The half Draenei are complicated. The Draenei basically act as orc elfs. They are super anti social because of reasons. This means a orc meeting a Draenei is very rare. The Draenei like them, but because of there anti social nature don't allow them into the city's. And if the orc clan dosnt want them to live with them, they dont really have any where to live. The warlock Gul'dan framed the Draenei for crimes they didn't commit. The orc then slaughtered a tone of Draenei. Most half Draenei where slaughtered because of this. During this time, the Draenei where forced to be less anti social, so if a Half Draenei didnt have green skin, beggars cant be choosers. Because of reasons and them cropping up more often it looks like where getting Half Draenei orcs as a playable race. They just be purple orcs with a few extras on them.

In our group we just make Kobolds the name Germans call Gnomes and make Kobolds Deep Gnomes. I never liked Draconic or Doglike. We kept to the older Gnome like Kobold.

One of my friends made me watch mlp. There's a shocking amount of rando original fantasy races. One of the main characters flutter shy, doesn't like people, but loves animals. So shes normally the main character that deal with them. So that's the main reason why. Like one was a giant bear with a galaxy sky as its skin. And is transparent. Its a animal that is magic, and is almost completely immune to magic. But there indefrent and dont like people. As a adult there extremely dangerous, but as a kid there very small and cant do a lot psychical damage yet. Doing this however doing this angers the mother. This monster is used to show how strong a wizard is.

Warhammer Homgoblins are also slaves to Chaos dwarfs, but because of in fighting with orcs, the hobgoblins act as the administration, and because of population issues, the hob goblins make up most of there army. Also I believe there called hobgoblins because orks have a hunch back, while goblins stand up straight. So Hobgoblins who are in-between the two. They don't have a full hunched back and walk with a hobble. So Hobgoblin. Also the hobgoblins in Warcraft Goblins live on Azeroth (the human planet) and might be related to the trolls. The trolls inslaved them but because of magical rocks, the goblins became smart and over threw the Trolls. The Goblins are super smart and ruthless, and often inslave there own race, so becoming a Hobgoblin and being a trade bosses mussel is one of the better jobs. Now Ogres are in the setting, but they comes the planet Draenor. Dranenor is where the orcs come from. Ogres shrank down into a orcs, and inslaved the Orcs. The Orcs raised up and inslaved the Ogers. Ogers later broke off from the Orcs after thy lost the 2d war. At this point the orcs where shattered to the point that they could barely mount a real army until Thrall. So the Hobgoblins are in most fantasy, small and then become human sized, while the Ogers in Warcraft are large and become more human sized.

"Hondo's Honor" ... is a short story about a hobgoblin captain. It's free online... It was so good, that it would have made a great novel....

I’m thinking of adding Bugbearers for my campaign I’m running currently, as a weird, experimentation between goblins and other species and it’ll be a decently large fight.

55:29 What... the... There's layers of issues with this; this is awful

I may not have much passion for the Dragon Age IP, but I do find it very disrespectful to take an IP that hasn't been used for years and disregard previous history in order to do whatever you want with it.

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I was going to say "RIP Drawmij" but then I thought that the character should live on even tho the player is gone. Also, I've never heard of Starfaring before, so I'm glad you mentioned it. Bye, Jim. We'll miss you, and you'll be remembered.

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My take on this: I don't really care about the whole politics part. Yeah, it is very cheap and hollow of them, but it's what you kind of expect from corporations like this. At the end of the day, it doesn't drastically mess with what most people want to do with the setting (which is have awesome buff guys kill aliens and evil buff guys), so I think it's fine. HOWEVER, I do agree that a lot of settings nowadays tend to overrely on retconning things in order to fit their new stuff in. DnD tried to do this with their Ardling stuff, but everyone was so angry with them that they cut the Ardlings out. If you want new things in the setting, just make them new. That's the best part of these ever-evolving settings like Warhammer and DnD, you CAN do new stuff. I really like that alternate plotline you mentioned with the whole Tzeentch stuff, that'd be cool. And if they REALLY want to do some girl power political thing to get an extra few bucks from their 20 total female fans, they could make the people that ultimately stop the Tzeentch influence in the Custodes *be* the real female Custodes, and then all the priests would be like "wow omg we should make more female custodes cuz they're so awesome" or whatever. It'd be at the very least better than just saying "nuh uh" like they are now. (Plus, they could literally do this right now. Like even with everything they've said. It's set up perfectly if they wanted to make everyone happy with an actually good story)

The guys jaunted around from plot point to plot point just like in the book, very interesting format

Awesome vid! I found this looking for inspiration for a Slime themed "dungeon" I want to run. In it, the party is looking for work and so they'll take the job of clearing out the sewers of corrupted/feral slimes. The Sewer is kept clean by 2 Gelatinous Cubes, G-Cubes are artificial/domesticated slimes, that's why they're shaped like that, and are often used for sewer maintenance, but bit ls and pieces of em slough off over time and become feral and dangerous so the party needs to deal with them while avoiding the Cubes (they're super expensive) Anyways, thanks for the history lesson 👌

Very informative video! In case you didn’t know, the reason that Japanese kobolds are so much more doglike than American kobolds is because instead of DnD exploding in popularity like in the States, a game called Wizardry exploded in popularity in Japan. Its kobolds were slightly more doglike than DnD’s. While DnD definitely influenced fantasy content everywhere, its direct influence kinda died down after 2nd edition for quite some time in places other than America.

So what type of orge is shrek than ???

Do the show on D&D versions! It's confused numbering...

Not going to mention the Nelwin from Willow?

Great job. Keep on keeping on 😎🍻🤘

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Fantasy Age RPG has 9 ancestry’s and rules to mix any of them together. You can have a half goblin half halfling

I have the original White box and I could have sworn Gnolls were originally a horrifying cross between a troll and gnome. 😅

Your homebrew beastie at the end is an excellent combination of the previous Bugbear lore and horror elements. I’m gonna try to slip them into my games so I can terrify my players. 😁🤣

10:07 Yeahhhhh Edition 3.5 Love for the win!!!

Started dnd with 5th Ed. I Really liked the Roman aspect of the Hobgoblins. I’m excited later supplements allow you to play as one, got a character in mind when I finally do.

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There is some fun hobgoblin stuff in the “ink and sigil” books that are a spin-off of the “iron Druid” series

More fantasy history, please.

1 minute in and this Arthur guy sounds like a menace lmao

Next, the history of pineapple on pizza in fantasy. PS. Your baking sounds, intermittently has something that sounds like a woman crying out in, um, pleasure. I'm sure I'm mishearing it, it's very quiet and not very frequent. e.g. 10:24. I think you can blame it on my mind 😂

early version of bugbear overlapped with runequest jack 'o bears - articles on this around

In my *_True Accounts of the Cosmic Rangers_* game/setting, I'm doing a lot of the folklore stuff you described with my bugbears. Big, scary predators with adaptive camouflage fur (all goblins have weird stealth powers), the ability to smell fear, and the ability to fit into/squeeze through spaces that are much, much smaller than they are.

This was a great treatment of a classic - well done. More like this, please!

in Portuguese from Portugal El Coco is Coca or even Cuca and it can mean head but it can also be referred to as a dragon/crocodile like creature and I think our neighbours have something like that too

in Portugal we have the word bicho it can be used for insects, any animal or for Bicho Papão our own version of the boogeyman

Third time watching one of your vids and now I will subscribe.

Thank you for these recommendations. I don't subscribe from one video but this is the second of yours I watched and I am on my way to another of yours. I got a feeling third time will be the charm for you.

13:24 Thought you said "the Japanese version of Tingle" here and the only thing that made me question if I'd heard it right is that Tingle is already the Japanese version of Tingle. Other than that, I was willing to just roll with the idea of hobgoblins being connected to the 35-year-old man from the Legend of Zelda who wants to be a fairy.

Keep up the monsters, love it

Two things that aren't quite right 1. The Cleveland Browns are named after Paul Brown, their first head coach. 2. The white box set is what is called Original D&D (OD&D), not 1st edition AD&D. While it isn't entirely wrong to say OD&D became AD&D, since that is the progenitor of all D&D editions, it's misleadingly stated.

on hobgoblins as samurai, i think the first time i saw them waring eastern style armor was actually in Warhammer fantasy role play first edition. the hobgoblins, while related to the other greenskins in the setting, were often depicted as wolf riders fomr the east... kind of like their version of Mongolians. in later editions they were connected to the chaos dwarfs as well. not 100% sure if this is where dnd picked up on the idea 9and GW might have gotten the idea form the Tengu as you suggested)

regarding Gary and the Carnivorous Apes - he was a big fan of sword and sorcery, like Conan, and apes and man-apes of all sorts were huge in the genre.

I didn’t know they had a background I thought it was something they just pulled out their ass in the 70’s after seeing Chewbacca or something for the first time.

I'm stealing that My Little Pony Bugbear for my next campaign. No more hairy goblins for me.

I FREAKING LOVE THIS SERIES

I love these monsters in fantasy videos, I don't know what's next on your list, but I am keen for it!

Please make a video for the history of Giants in fantasy please