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The Problem with Dinotopia?
Perhaps the title is too spicy but I stand by it. There are so many issues with Dinotopia that drag down its potential as a setting. I cover them here and offer some suggestions as well as a pitch for a way to move the storyline along while keeping the themes intact. So come join me for another fun video.
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  • @Blackarooni
    @Blackarooni ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sue Storm >>> Squirrel Girl and I will die on that hill (I also realized the "beneath thing" was my brain short circuiting)

  • @KevinWarburton-tv2iy
    @KevinWarburton-tv2iy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have Kendari in my world & while they are often Thieves & Rogues that is not their whole Identity.

  • @booleah6357
    @booleah6357 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think there are 3 big reasons these channels are dying. You addressed them all but it runs deeper than that. The first is definitely that the hobby became extremely divisive and toxic thanks to WOTC poor decisions. Not even politically but the scandals and the multiple AI scandals regardless of your stance on any of it thats not great for bringing people in. The second is definitely that these channels don't have any wow factor. They don't really pop out. Look at legends of avantris they are doing great and are a D&D channel because they are entertaining. People like Guy are informative but not as funny or catchy. The last reason I think is that less people are playing tabletops because life is definitely getting in the way. Its a common joke that the strongest momster in any game is scheduling.

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fantastic comments and I agree with all your points you brought up here. Scheduling really is the final boss of tabletop games.

  • @SputnikRX
    @SputnikRX 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just make orcs evil. And any half-orc results from some kind of evil union, so they inherit evil. Good and evil may not exist IRL, but they can exist in a fantasy game just like magic and dragons. Don't let players play your monsters or you will run out of monsters, because you have to make them human for humans to play them well.

  • @adammcclelland5746
    @adammcclelland5746 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, I just think that anyone more rich, popular, successful or influential than me is secretly a freak.

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably for the best. I don't know why it seems like so many rich people have weird fetishes.

  • @brettjohnson536
    @brettjohnson536 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:53 Does anyone know what creature he says there?

  • @Adam_First
    @Adam_First 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video

  • @skullium5920
    @skullium5920 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love how my friends describes orcs. Goblins are green and Orcs look grey and sickly. They both look the same ,but are not the same because goblins hide in caves, and orcs have clans. Orcs can tolerate humans but goblin despise them. What connects them is that have follow the big bad guy.

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:20 how is that unfortunate

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:05 like the triceraton from the ninja turtles

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:56 its a eurypterid the sea scorpion

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:41 thats an edaphosaurus in the bottom right which is a synapsid like the dimetrodon and lile the dimetrodon it has been dead long before the dinosaurs emerged

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:26 thats a therizinosaurus and it's a herbivore

    • @ASH_EDITZ908
      @ASH_EDITZ908 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Omnivore beacuse they eat meat and veggies

    • @dylansearcy3966
      @dylansearcy3966 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ mainly veggies, they occasionally ate small animals

    • @ASH_EDITZ908
      @ASH_EDITZ908 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dylansearcy3966 yeah beacuse its really teritorial, if am protoceratops its on his territory, he kill the dinosaur

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:55 the og ark survival and jurassic park and dinosaurs still exist to this day

  • @Darklord1012-b4x
    @Darklord1012-b4x หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my world orcs are red Inspired by game of warriors

  • @alienstar2088
    @alienstar2088 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always figured Carnivores in the series were almost druidic in their religious beliefs. This would explain why they still hunt other Dinosaurs and Humans despite their intelligence, to the Carnivores, they may see it as their duty to continue to hunt - after all, it is what they are designed to do.

  • @JBKNL
    @JBKNL หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warcraft orcs are awesome!!! ❤❤❤

  • @adhyansehgal4192
    @adhyansehgal4192 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My maternal parents used to scare my mother and her sisters from eating meat, maybe it's better if indians stop eating meat there's already a lot going on in this nation

  • @drewluczynski9609
    @drewluczynski9609 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the thing they were going for with the carnivores, from my understanding, was that they refused to be a part of the Dinotopian Society, for the most part. Was this due to their predatory nature? Possibly, as I know there was a shorter book about a Giga named Chomper that was raised in society and started to become a problem for that reason. They say something about a pact between the leaf and meat eaters. How the humans can persuade the carnivores to not hunt them with fish offerings. Or how when dinosaurs die they go to the Rainy Basin for the carnivores to eat, saving on grave space and hunting. Still, seems kinda specist to not have theropods showing up in the cities.

  • @marcusblacknell-andrews1783
    @marcusblacknell-andrews1783 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my world, Bugbears are born with Werebear lycanthropy. Seeing it as a boon, they embrace the beast and use their power as guardians of the wilderness.

  • @CurtisSmith-hr5mo
    @CurtisSmith-hr5mo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dinotopia that is a good story humans and dinosaurs live in waterfall city

  • @derrabbit7289
    @derrabbit7289 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Utopia is boring and impossible. The thought that ran through my head was that humanity will always produce a monster at some point. No weapons? Someone will make a stone knife or a spear or just use a big rock.

    • @dylansearcy3966
      @dylansearcy3966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whats so boring about utopia?

    • @derrabbit7289
      @derrabbit7289 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ No conflict and humans don’t do well in such situations

  • @mileslugo6430
    @mileslugo6430 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the Eberron setting, Orcs are the original inhabitants of their home continent of Khorvaire and spent their days prior to the introduction of humans and other races to their continent by fending off lovecraftian horrors of the dream realm.

  • @grendel8342
    @grendel8342 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Simple, we all must eat and we all must be eaten. It's how the world works.

  • @Dinologan1015
    @Dinologan1015 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dinotopia really is a forgotten series, and if we never get more content from it, which is most likely the case, I think we definitely need some more series like it: Humans and sapient Dinosaurs trying to co-exist. With the carnivores specifically, it always bothered my how they were always portrayed as villains unjustly for the simple fact that they ate meat. While all the herbivores are sapient with human intelligence, the carnivores are dumbed down to simple animals trying to survive, but get the villain label slapped onto them because of that. Or when they are made sapient like the herbivores, which is rarely done, they're still usually just either villainous, or are looked over completely.

  • @nebelwanderer4974
    @nebelwanderer4974 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yeah, I remember Dinotopia. There was a movie in 2002, though I can't even remember the plot... So it must've been mid to bad... And I had a GBA game "Dinotopia - The Timestone Pirates", the controls were complete garbage and I don't think it was related to the movie, but I liked the background music...

  • @qwefg3
    @qwefg3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The books were an odd one for me as I had read the first book and the one with the pirates. The other books felt odd in the same way that some old DnD realms could be odd, but unique while also having no idea what they should go from there. (the hallow earth with the wizard T-Rex comes to mind that froze entire regions to preserve the cultures and societies that went extinct on the surface comes to mind.) I do remember the Dinotopia movie and TV series... Was a fan of the movie/first one as it got me to read the books. The TV show that came after... Ran into the 'we have no idea what we are doing, but like money' vibe coming from them using ancient wizards and pollution bad because the island folk can't deal with the bad air. This series has had a lot of weird moments. As for anyone asking how non-sentient animals could have arrived on the island... Ships crashing there carrying farm life at X point in story or history.

  • @vorpal997
    @vorpal997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video with some good points. I think the dinosaur-human hybrids are supposed to be analogous to Egyptian gods, not a literal race of people. That's how I always interpreted them, anyway. It is a missed opportunity that they never come up beyond background decoration though. I do think some people in Dinotopia worship them but I could be mistaken. I believe the sauropartners relationships are comparable to dragons and their riders in other fantasy settings. Hiccup and Toothless come to mind. Your idea for a plot addressing the carnivores is a good one, and if the series ever makes a comeback, I would hope James writes something like this.

  • @smartass0124
    @smartass0124 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Define sentient but still could work out differnt ways of growing food

  • @smartass0124
    @smartass0124 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How smart are most dinosaurs in the series

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They speak, write, and even have philosophical debates about things such as the nature of love and family.

  • @DarkMegaPlague
    @DarkMegaPlague หลายเดือนก่อน

    and the movie that came out ages ago didnt do it justice, would be cool of the team who made the latest JP/JW movies would give it a shot

  • @mrsamaritan6881
    @mrsamaritan6881 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "feathered" dinosaurs took pop culture by storm but are NOT scientifically accurate. While there MIGHT have been a few dinosaurs with feather-like scales, the vast majority of them did not.

    • @armata_strigoi_0
      @armata_strigoi_0 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry, but this is scientifically muddled. Yes, many dinosaurs, including non-avian ones, possessed feathers - not "feather-like scales", actual feathers. The successive stages of feather evolution and how they became increasingly more complex, culminating in avians, is very well documented at this point. However, no palaeontologist has ever suggested that all non-avian dinosaurs were fully feathered; that is entirely a misconception born of shoddy reporting and bad media representation. In actuality, it's a nuanced topic. Basically, current thinking is that feathers, or rather proto-feathers (unbranching filaments) are an ancestral condition of Dinosauria. The reason why is not only that species from both sides of the earliest evolutionary split within Dinosauria have been found with feathers (of varying stages), but also that the clade most closely related to them, Pterosauria, possessed homologous filaments (commonly known as pycnofibers). Logic dictates that the last common ancestor of all these groups must have possessed the filaments that would later develop into feathers too. But it gets more complicated, because it turns out that multiple lineages of non-avian dinosaurs secondarily lost their feathers and reverted to scales (or at the very least, greatly reduced the density of their coat so as to be almost invisible). It's not entirely clear what the drivers were in every case, but for the most part it seems to have occurred in large-bodied groups. This makes sense due to the square-cube law as it relates to metabolic rates and heat transfer - larger animals naturally retain more heat due to the increased ratio between their surface area and volume, so extensive heat retaining coats quickly end up being more detrimental than beneficial in warm climates. In summary, making sweeping statements about whether either form of integument is scientifically accurate is farcical. Truth is, it's a highly variable trait. We know for a certainty that some dinosaurs were fully feathered, some were fully scaled, and some were a mix. You have to take it on a case by case basis.

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feathers are likely ancestral to dinosaurs, in fact they're likely ancestral to avemetatarsalia given that pterosaurs are now known to possess feathers. It's likely all smaller dinosaurs possessed them, and even some larger ones. And no, they weren't 'feather-like scales', they were straight up feathers. Keep up with the science on this one.

    • @Oaglor
      @Oaglor หลายเดือนก่อน

      What kind of "feather-like scale" penetrates the ulna to the point of leaving knobs on the bone?

  • @joebrusca8897
    @joebrusca8897 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video. Didn't realize there was such a large world for Dinototpia. The robots just don't fit, guess the writers ran out of good ideas. Not sure what the complaint about the music is about. Not too loud, perhaps chipsndips just doesn't like the melody.

    • @MrChipsndips
      @MrChipsndips หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't mind the music. It's just too loud to hear what's said

    • @joebrusca8897
      @joebrusca8897 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrChipsndips Interesting. not sure what my audio settings are, but I actually didn't realize there even was an audio track until well into the video. That's why I questioned your 'loud' comment.

  • @DrakeDragon2000
    @DrakeDragon2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly is shame that most dinosaur media is criticized solely on Accuracy nowadays There is a movie called You are Umasou a Anime with a extremely styilized artstyle, they only resemble Their real life counterparts superficially, but the designs Are not a set back for the Movie, the story pacing is quite flawed however the beautiful animation combined with the characters just Overshadows the "flaw" of scientific inaccuracies, the protagonists who is a t rex can literally jump Over a 100 feet in the air and do dropkicks, as if putting the correct amount of feathers would make the story better

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I find it even worse when I find people critiquing the accuracy of dinosaurs in fantasy settings too.

    • @DrakeDragon2000
      @DrakeDragon2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@WilliamLovell-oh1rb better yet make the Carcharodontosaurus a ACTUAL land shark Give it the ability to swim on sand and give it a actual shark Fin there you have a new ARK design

  • @MrChipsndips
    @MrChipsndips หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to watch, but that music...

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's wrong with the castle crashers music?

    • @connor1734
      @connor1734 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kid9893 It's a bit to loud, or it overwhelms your voice in sections. Bump the music down or vocal audio up. Somewhere between 5-15% Also now that I've watched more, I would say any songs or music you use as background noise. You should use whatever editing software you have and make a version of that song that is all one volume, equalize the whole song. The problem being the song gets louder and softer per its original needs to be good music. While you want something to fill the background and stay in the background.

    • @MrChipsndips
      @MrChipsndips หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too loud init

  • @joecrazy9896
    @joecrazy9896 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's an interesting setting for sure. It's unfortunate that it never really found solid footing.

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree completely.

  • @pvhep4036
    @pvhep4036 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Music is very distracting

  • @tomchaos7286
    @tomchaos7286 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You didn’t really talk about some of the 70’s-90’s dinosaurs sicfi Dino riders, Dinosaucers, and Cadillacs and dinosaurs/Xenozoic Tales

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually didn't know any of these until you brought them up here. These are really interesting and totally awesome. I don't know how I miss them. When Zimzilla comes back on during the 18th, I'll be sure to bring them up.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warcraft ogers are really cool. Ogers are often described as dim witted and slow. But often a ogers arrogance is mistaken for stupidity. And them being stupid is generally false stereotype, propagated by races who didn’t live Draenor Ogers are one of the frist empires on Drannor and were extremely successful. They even had more culture and art than the orcs. Now most of that culture was built on orc slave labor. The Ogers inslaving Orcs is a massive plot line. The Ogers descended from rock giants and the Orcs are actually descendants of Ogers. There extremely selfish and because of the horde they lost a lot of culture and after the end of second war they where shattered. The orcs were also stereotyped as stupid after the second war. But they rebounded because of thrall and his sense of direction. The Ogres didn’t have a Thrall, like the orcs did. Btw there are Ogres who follow thrall. My point is that they didn’t have a unified identity as ogers. But yeah Warcraft Ogers aren’t inherently nasty, and disgusting. They’re just selfish. Btw the Ogers are more cultured then Orcs, but Ogers has whole rank second lowest. This is because most races are monsters, or are barely not a monster, but there civilian and race is so primitive. and the other races are up tight A they will never be playable. And the ones that could be playable are your a holes who are socially isolated, so they have tones of shit they don’t share. So the not elf’s. Btw when I mean not playable, I mean in a general role play way setting as a main character.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Im struggling to join your discord.

    • @kid9893
      @kid9893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      discord.gg/ebQTzxGE Try this link.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warcraft orcs are flanderized as being nice boys. Most orc clans were nice, relative to other things on Draenor. Only a few could be actually considered “nice”. The laughing skulls, hell screams and shattered hand. Are nicer than the other things in there environment. Because Draenor is a shit hole. The orcs were then corrupted with demon blood and taken to azeroth. On azeroth there on the top of food chain, and story of the orcs is about environmentalism and a pray now becoming the predator. The nicer elements of the orcs in modern Warcraft were set up by doom hammer and followed through with Thrall. A few quests has you kill orcs who didn’t change with the horde. And the fall of Garrosh is because he’s trying to be an old orc. And soar fang the guy you have images up off. Has a mid life crises in bfa, because he’s old enough to have seen all the warchiefs and knows orcs are assholes. Look up the cinematic negotiation. Old orcs before there corruption are more like Klingons. Klingons are a massive influence on Warcraft orcs.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Warcraft Orcs live on Dannor. And on there there the Human equivalates. Ogres are the ancestors of the orcs, and the half Orcs half Ogers formed there own clan. This clan has stable population. The orcs don't like them but work with them, because there often the slaves of Ogers, while the Ogers are basically pure evil. So half Oger orcs are sort of the half Orcs half humans on the setting. The half Draenei are complicated. The Draenei basically act as orc elfs. They are super anti social because of reasons. This means a orc meeting a Draenei is very rare. The Draenei like them, but because of there anti social nature don't allow them into the city's. And if the orc clan dosnt want them to live with them, they dont really have any where to live. The warlock Gul'dan framed the Draenei for crimes they didn't commit. The orc then slaughtered a tone of Draenei. Most half Draenei where slaughtered because of this. During this time, the Draenei where forced to be less anti social, so if a Half Draenei didnt have green skin, beggars cant be choosers. Because of reasons and them cropping up more often it looks like where getting Half Draenei orcs as a playable race. They just be purple orcs with a few extras on them.

  • @level9drow856
    @level9drow856 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In our group we just make Kobolds the name Germans call Gnomes and make Kobolds Deep Gnomes. I never liked Draconic or Doglike. We kept to the older Gnome like Kobold.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my friends made me watch mlp. There's a shocking amount of rando original fantasy races. One of the main characters flutter shy, doesn't like people, but loves animals. So shes normally the main character that deal with them. So that's the main reason why. Like one was a giant bear with a galaxy sky as its skin. And is transparent. Its a animal that is magic, and is almost completely immune to magic. But there indefrent and dont like people. As a adult there extremely dangerous, but as a kid there very small and cant do a lot psychical damage yet. Doing this however doing this angers the mother. This monster is used to show how strong a wizard is.

  • @Hot_SpicyGrill
    @Hot_SpicyGrill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warhammer Homgoblins are also slaves to Chaos dwarfs, but because of in fighting with orcs, the hobgoblins act as the administration, and because of population issues, the hob goblins make up most of there army. Also I believe there called hobgoblins because orks have a hunch back, while goblins stand up straight. So Hobgoblins who are in-between the two. They don't have a full hunched back and walk with a hobble. So Hobgoblin. Also the hobgoblins in Warcraft Goblins live on Azeroth (the human planet) and might be related to the trolls. The trolls inslaved them but because of magical rocks, the goblins became smart and over threw the Trolls. The Goblins are super smart and ruthless, and often inslave there own race, so becoming a Hobgoblin and being a trade bosses mussel is one of the better jobs. Now Ogres are in the setting, but they comes the planet Draenor. Dranenor is where the orcs come from. Ogres shrank down into a orcs, and inslaved the Orcs. The Orcs raised up and inslaved the Ogers. Ogers later broke off from the Orcs after thy lost the 2d war. At this point the orcs where shattered to the point that they could barely mount a real army until Thrall. So the Hobgoblins are in most fantasy, small and then become human sized, while the Ogers in Warcraft are large and become more human sized.

  • @openyoureyes3969
    @openyoureyes3969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Hondo's Honor" ... is a short story about a hobgoblin captain. It's free online... It was so good, that it would have made a great novel....

  • @Jamesthemaze
    @Jamesthemaze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m thinking of adding Bugbearers for my campaign I’m running currently, as a weird, experimentation between goblins and other species and it’ll be a decently large fight.