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Thanks man! I haven't tried swimming but now understand the effects of positive or negative and why to choose one or another.

What is the difference in angle of front and back foil without shim? (or 0° shim) I'm expecting that the "+" shim increases the angle, and the "-" shim decreases the angle. Not that the "-" indicates a negative angle between front and back foil...

it's all compromise, i tried without top plate shim on my crappy setup and it was unrideable and i rided like that few month board dropping instantly if i dont lean back, now i found the right setup and it's so much more confortable to have front foot, im full forward on my setup there is not other choice. i used a fone wing rocket-s to surf foil recently had to move it a little bit forward to improve take off as i was missing a lot of wave, take off was good but front foot was too huge ! it's not easy to find the right setup ! btw now let try a top plate shim tutorial haha 😅

Love this Dave! Great insight from a surf perspective

awesome, well-constructed commentary

Any reason for not using a leash?

Great content, lots of insights. Keep 'em coming 🙌

I think you tried to make a short but it’s was too long 07 sec too long 😅 happy to see yoy come back !

Good review, I like the garage chat/water footage! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

The first half of the video makes a lot of sense to me and is very helpful. I got lost at about 4:08. How does the narrowness of the planing area influence responsiveness and front foot/back foot pressure? Once you’re on foil, other than touching down or clearance in turns, it seems like bottom contour is irrelevant. Thanks in advance for explaining this in more detail!

Amazing ride and progression! Where are you located in NJ?

It looks a bit like the latest Omen. They are both thin. This one has a little more sweep back at the ends and also the anhedral weakens closer in from the tips in this one. I have my own design finishing up on the 3D printer and it's slightly closer to this one except I have more anhedral curve in the middle and thinner tips at a different angle. All planforms that should shred. I was surprised how much forward of the mast this is though, it makes it more turn resistant.

Chimes make gentle noises in the wind, chines are angles on hulls of boats and boards

Love the video! What advice do you have for an eFoiler looking to branch into the prone foil discipline? Would you recommend starting behind the boat first? I currently ride a 4’2 lift pro.

Awesome review. What's your weight? I'm shopping for a hybrid prone/wing board in the 45L-50L range for 83kg/185 lbs or so. I normally wing an Appletree Jazz 60L and my prone board is an Appletree Pro Foil V2, but I'm struggling a bit a 37L with with. I want a bit more foam. I wish the rear strap inserts weren't offset like this. I like the idea, but I ride switch a lot, so having a straight strap at the back is kinda important to me. @omenfoils

I love the editing that went into this! Very well executed!

Go Dave!💥🤙

Dark shirt and shorts hide the wing shapes and contours. Just suggesting 7:39 7:41

Very cool foil system. Definitely interested in trying one of these

Love the 850. Easy to ride, rips turns and fast! Great review!

Just a heads up the audio is extremely low volume.

Really enjoying going through your videos from the start. What Unifoil setup (mast, wing, fuse, tail) would you recommend getting into prone? I am a midlength surfer, love winging in waves so have foil experience, and weigh 145lbs. Live in Wilmington NC. Thanks!

yah.. just started to learn to wing in Thailand. humbling for sure... been surfing for 30 years.. .suping for 7.... humbled... but excited to keep going!

Hi great comparison. If possible could you confirm the distance from the tail to the kick pad?

In other words workout get in shape right ride a narrow board 🤙🏽🍍🤓

Hi came across your channel and I’m beginning my foil journey. What is the technique to pop up on such a small board…I’m 6 3 will that be a problem?

When popping up do you put your rear foot on the back of the board chicken wing style?

Love it Dave! Stoked you're digging Flux and really enjoyed following your tuning progression!

I'm the opposite. I can wing all day but I can't prone foil to save my life. The popup is impossible for me. Wing progression should be fast once you get up and build the muscles needed.

interesting review !

Great break out comparing the 2 different shapes!

Smooth looking turns Dave!

The sweatshirt tease!!!

Excellent analysis!! Makes total sense. I found similar challenges when I went to my more narrow board - but lots of the benefits you highlighted.

i feel like u would notice a way bigger difference if you tried 7 other foil setups, but i understand there is a conflict of interest.

Very interesting and very well presented👍👍. Thanks!

I'm wandering if you have thought about getting a foil drive just to increase your wave count. It would almost be like having a toe in every day. the new Gen 2 looks kinda neat. Your thoughts?

Boy, you have come a long way. I think you are doing really good now.

Riding is great. Love the way you pieced together this edit.

listen to your mind also buddy..sometimes its easier and talks earlier than the body.

Thanks, I am learning prone foiling and have zero surf background. The video helps put names to some of the things I am trying. Great mix of clips and dialogue! Helmets are great for sun protection, holding a camera, and warmth in the winter. I need to start wearing mine as a habit again.

amazing! youve progressed so much in such a short time!

Nice flow!

Only one year, oh that's good news! I'm 65 and going to foil classes this week, the game changer for the answer to crowds. Subbed

Definitely interested in the new shapes coming out, the mid length especially. Not sure the length on your disco potato either. I can catch a lot with my 4’3. But if I can open up on a wave a little earlier with less effort, I am all about saving energy for when I am up. Also, due to a multitude of factors I just don’t prone or get on waves everyday. So pump fatigue became real. I do regularly swim and gym as both are minutes away, unlike the ocean. It helps, but it’s not the same. I was able to get on foil atleast 5 days a week when I found a dock suitable for starts. Upped my pump game and endurance. Helped me understand the sweet spot on that foil as well. Beat the gym even though it’s not waves or swell. Also totally feel the vibe on starting with the pop up, it can throw the whole wave off or send you off into exhaustion if your just trying to get out of the break from a poor pop. Anyways I love the content, the progression, the takes on new gear and the footage. I know it’s not easy putting it together. Seems like a passion project. But for some of us, we are the only proners or even foilers in the area. So watching content or listening to casts is the only outlet. So thank you.

Interested to hear more about the two Portals. What they each do well and what you like about each. I’m suffering from analysis paralysis. Ha

Focusing on the connecting waves is where I fall short every time I get up I just want to shred all the wave to the beach 😅

Surfline isn't very accurate for us in the sw uk , I think its because we have a long sea shelf . Windy is better, I think because they combine all weather models, learn to use the free version it's very accurate

wing progression on inner lake if you cant go to the ocean ;) that what we want . waiting to see your shape finished.

The 125 is "the one", but so is the 140, and the 170, and the 200 😋