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Pentium 233 Build With Multiple 3d API Capability
00:00 Intro
02:14 Video Cards
02:30 Original Motherboard + CPU Combo
02:51 New Motherboard + CPU Combo
03:45 New Build
06:12 Diablo
06:41 Hexen II
07:09 Outlaws
07:47 Descent II Glide + RRedline
08:20 Outro
In this video I rebuilt my Pentium 233 so it runs games in 3dfx's Glide, Direct3d, Rendition's RRedline and Speedy 3d as well as the obvious Direct Draw that does not need 3d acceleration.
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  • @johnhajdu4276
    @johnhajdu4276 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:00 Serius Sam. The problem with the 2x Antialiasing in with the Voodoo 4, which drops the FPS to unplayable is the fact that Voodoo 4 has only 32MB ram. Because of the 2x anti-aliasing the card has to keep 2 frame buffers only for anti aliassing (a frame buffer is 1024*768*4byte = 3MB, and we need at least 4 from them, because of the triple buffering, and a depth buffer. Total it makes 3*4=12MB. With anti aliasing we double the one buffer, which makes it 16MB. The textures are eating a lot of memory as well. To render a picture, always new textures needed depending where the player located. And that's why less memory means the textures has to be swapped more frequently from the system RAM. Because you are using a PCI version of the card, which has only 33MHz Speed on 32bit, you can make the math, how slow is the data transmission rate from CPU to Voodoo. The 2x AGP card, is 4 times faster as PCI.

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be good to do a benchmark on it.. to compare with non accelerated version.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@downundergarage6968 these games are barely playable with acceleration on the 486, without it I think the only one that you can actually play a bit is Quake.

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what resolution are you running it in?

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My 1st PC was a DX2 66 from late 93, i upgraded it to 8MB in 1994 so that it could play the games you have mentioned.. love it.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@downundergarage6968 Funny how nostalgia works. Now that it's been a while since this video I'm nostalgic for my original 486 in the 90s but also for this moment a few years ago when I delved back into it.

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can remove the yellowing of it.. just google how to retro brite it.

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my view the sweet spot for Voodoo2 was around P3 600, it does scale up to P3 800 and anything after is a waste. When it came out the fastest P2 you could get (2 m after Voodoo2 came out) was P2 450. So if you are aiming at that 1998 period correct HW, stick to that.

  • @judotvbr
    @judotvbr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sell?

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't sell anything, sorry.

  • @benambrose7360
    @benambrose7360 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive been building something similar. Its an Asus P5E3 Premium motherboard with an intel core 2 duo e8600 (3.33ghz, air cooled with zerotherm nirvana), corsair 1600 ddr3 (8gb installed but as its xp home it only uses 4), gtx 780ti and a 650w corsair power supply. All these parts i got for free over time, except the 780ti, which was an ebay buy for £28 to replace the free 580 that it had. Not even stretching it's legs on Crysis 2, let alone anything else 😅

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh yeah, Thays more than Eno hj for XP! Enjoy!

  • @matutogame8640
    @matutogame8640 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vindo lá do RIRIS

  • @xorwcnrssk
    @xorwcnrssk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a BH6 that I found at a dumpster, it works but the caps are bulgy

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xorwcnrssk oh nice, they're good if you can recap it. I've gotten a bit better since this video, this was my first recap ever and it didn't turn out great.

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohh, hi tehere Sucra, couldn't help myself but watch your "old" video LOL. Just was looking for some nforce 430 IGP tests and how it compare to older cards under 98 (if it is even possible at all) and your video came very high on my search.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cringy, but I hope that was somehow helpful. What was the auto focus doing anyway?

    • @RetroTinkerer
      @RetroTinkerer หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SUCRA apparently that chipset is no good for Windows 98 so I thought I might as well watch how it did under XP, nforce3 is the newest one from Nvidia.

  • @marceloho1984
    @marceloho1984 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Português!

  • @silentdebugger
    @silentdebugger หลายเดือนก่อน

    cut to me playing Unreal Tournament 3 at 320x240 resolution on this card

  • @FullMetal-Tech
    @FullMetal-Tech หลายเดือนก่อน

    So unless you are running the original copy of pacific assault, the EA digital version is modded to support 16:9 and to support modern OS. I own the original, It is a direct X 8.1 title and runs on windows 98se. I can play it flawlessly on a athlon XP 3000 with a ati 9800 pro max settings at 1024 x 768 ( most common res of the time, were still in the transition from CRT to crappy early LCD TN panels. )

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FullMetal-Tech Cool!

  • @tysonhughes3711
    @tysonhughes3711 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tur4x can support up to 2gb of ram, what a legend.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, I think it's great

  • @deku812
    @deku812 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9600 Pro the the first true gaming GPU i owned; picked it for my PC back in 2004 originally to play World of Warcraft but ended up getting sucked into other games instead. Had many hours of gaming on that thing. Still have the box, but the card is long gone. RIP my 9600 Pro.

  • @przemysawrak5059
    @przemysawrak5059 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gdzie są takie sklepy? 😳

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA หลายเดือนก่อน

      How are you doing? This was in the DC area in America. Unfortunately you can't find anymore big box games over there. The second time I went there it had already been cleaned out

  • @allenjohnny
    @allenjohnny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sexy ass

  • @duffywest
    @duffywest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that a laminated screen?

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I believe so.

    • @duffywest
      @duffywest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SUCRA that’s sick!! I’m waiting for syf to come out with a va5 board since of got the chips from that. You should check out those boards.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@duffywest oh sweet, I will. I still have a few mods to do on this. I have a new white case that is beautiful, a new sound board and flat cables. Just need to find the time.

  • @huberthans4312
    @huberthans4312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you would have turned off the sound, the 486 would have had the chance to manage the 3D graphics. But Unreal uses Tracker Music, wich alone would oversaturate the 486 in an instant. Even on standard quality wich is only 22Khz and ?16? voices. A very fast and optimized 486 can barely manage 4 to 8 voices with CD quality at 16Bit (Stereo vs. Mono) by itself without buffer underruns. If anything is going on additionally (Running Windows and such), the 486 will not be capable to hold its line. Sound in most cases was so hard on non MMX-CPUs that it would eat up all ressources. Unreal only works good on MMX CPUs, because with MMX instructions the music playback will only eat a fraction of CPU cycles.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point, I didn't think about that at the time.

  • @mariusz76a
    @mariusz76a 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's all what you need for Windows 9x gaming.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍👍👍

  • @bestopinion9257
    @bestopinion9257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just looked for a Radeon 9800 XT and geez, the prices went up like crazy. 150$ for one in not great condition. Some years ago I bought 3 Radeon 9550 and one HD 4670 1GB and one Radeon 1950 Pro, all AGP, all for cheap. Now I see powerful AGP cards (I have two of them as you see) have crazy prices.

  • @spladam3845
    @spladam3845 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need this exact build now, great mix of parts dude, some real nostalgic voodoo magic.

  • @BrassicGamer
    @BrassicGamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice build and what a generous gift from your stepfather! I'm hoping to obtain a Rendition card someday - I will be doing exactly the same as you, I think, by putting it in my 200MMX build, which currently uses SLI. You're right about the games from this period. I love the idea of having all the parts you own in as many PCs as you can build. Originally I just wanted one example from each generation e.g. 8086, 286, 386, etc. but when it gets to the 486 I think it's important to have a slow one and a fast one. The same is true of the Pentium, I think. It's a neverending task!

  • @RaPtOr9600
    @RaPtOr9600 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic machine, motherboard was stored properly so it worked without any issue it looks like brand new.

  • @martinez1701a
    @martinez1701a 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a asus P3V4X slot 1 motherboard and have a weird issue, right now I'm running a pentium3 500mhz 100mhz fsb and works great but when I swap in a pentium3 with a 133mhz fsb it doesn't wanna boot. The board totally supports it and I used to run a P3 1ghz with this same board but now it doesn't like it. Caps look good and is fine with 100mhz fsd, it's got me scratching my head.

  • @lonewolfniko3525
    @lonewolfniko3525 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Sucra, I am happy to see you 🙂

  • @RetroPcCupboard
    @RetroPcCupboard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put my Pentium MMX 233Mhz in a super socket 7 motherboard. Runs at 300Mhz at 2.9v. 100% stable. Combined with nVidia Riva 128 and Voodoo 1 4Mb. It runs almost all DOS games and Windows games up until Unreal 1 / Halflife 1 (barely). I also have a Soundblaster 16 and Aureal Vortex 2 sound card in it.

  • @xBruceLee88x
    @xBruceLee88x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video SUCRA!

  • @rubyvolt
    @rubyvolt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am watching my ATI 1900XTX run the Mercury pool Industrial version right now. It was flaking out after it got warm. I only used a 350 watt gun and no sensor. I stayed 2 inches away moving around for 4-5 min. It just started the artifacts and it froze in Unreal 2K4 as before. I guess a little closer and hotter for a second try. It lasted longer though. It wouldn't even start the screen saver before. Used arctic silver on the stock cooler. Yeah...we are all going to have to become expert solderers to keep this stuff alive and even that won't prevent chips just degrading. Hard to expect from 20-30-40 year old stuff not to mention the NEWEST CRAP that oxidizes.....LOL.

  • @ZXSpectrum128K
    @ZXSpectrum128K 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you review a vga with tv encoder please?

  • @ZXSpectrum128K
    @ZXSpectrum128K 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    th-cam.com/video/yZEi4t_JUpg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fPohx43tbetsv9EM

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had forgotten that Half Life even had a software renderer, it was released a year before Quake 3 came along and said it was okay to ditch the software renderer, after that everything else followed.

  • @Thomas.Falcone
    @Thomas.Falcone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice video 👍🏻 I was expecting a little bit more of gameplay footage, maybe next time 🔥

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thomas.Falcone Thanks! Yeah, sorry about that, I was a bit in a hurry to finish this one to go to the airport for the current trip I'm in. What games do you think are a nice fit for the system?

  • @gollavenkatesulu
    @gollavenkatesulu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the tip. short and up to the point.

  • @lucasvidente
    @lucasvidente 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meu sonho colocar alguma dessas placas no meu Athlon XP 3000+ ... bela coleção que você tem! Abraço de São Paulo

  • @wowitsshit9734
    @wowitsshit9734 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neato

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are those converters that you stick the tape on? IDE to CF or something similar?

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey! SD card to ide. Very handy.

  • @Sharkjumper
    @Sharkjumper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:45 i had a PC once with this processor, in 1997 my dad bought the first computer, pentium MMX 166mhz - 16 Mb ram - 2Gb HD QUANTUM

  • @3dfxlegacy
    @3dfxlegacy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! I have an idea for a video... can you talk about the retroPC in your country?

  • @bestopinion9257
    @bestopinion9257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had GeCube Radeon 9550 128 bit 128 vram. Upgrade from Nvidia Riva TNT 2. It was a huge upgrade. I was so happy with it.

  • @O.Shawabkeh
    @O.Shawabkeh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have fun, and thanks for sharing.

  • @razorsz195
    @razorsz195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video really makes me want to finish off my MS-DOS 586 build, its sat in a functional limbo while i've made the move to shift some other PCs and sell them on to make space for my own builds, free stuff is great until it takes up space not being used, if i can source some VRAM for the Trio 64V+ to open its bus width up, source a K6 Processor, a few modern updates and it should be a lovely system for this same era of gaming, though no 3D card for me, just a faster processor as i do prefer that sharper software rendered look. my pentium 3 550 and Viper Ultra take care of the early 3D games as i was able to build a whole system for the price of a voodoo card :) Besides, the board is a lovely GA-586-HX with labelled dipswitches for easy overclocking!

  • @66mhzbrain
    @66mhzbrain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha. Thats exactly how I started off, building machines for different combos, and quickly ran out of space for them so had to stop. Now I do the reverse, keep all the cards out of builds in boxes an build and use 1 combo at a time. Nice p233 build!

  • @scienide77
    @scienide77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Firing up a game with your voodoo card for the first time was such a big bump in graphics, i still remember that moment.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scienide77 it was fantastic. Once you saw it you couldn't go back

  • @SeñorDossierOficial
    @SeñorDossierOficial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think there was an apl named heidy3d

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm I've never heard about that one. I'd definitely be interested though.

  • @PixelPipes
    @PixelPipes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great build! :D A cool combo of 3D accelerators and a lot of versatility. P.s. I also cover the back of my SD-to-IDE adapters with electrical tape.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man! This thing has kept me many hours in the lab "capturing" and "testing" 😅

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't forget was power vr in that period too, I think quake 1, 2 looks best on rendition but tomb raider look better on power vr

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't had any experience with Power VR, but it's definitely on the list. I love trying different hardware and apis.

  • @Falcon0BR
    @Falcon0BR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that build, can't believe it works after the capacitors life time is already expired.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, you'd be surprised hah thanks!

  • @TurboMMaster
    @TurboMMaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldn't get more from Pentium "1"architecture unless you either ready to do some heavy overcloacking and/or could find rare Pentium 266MMX used in some laptops and embedded systems. And both require some workarounds and are not exactly era accurate. So I guess you couldn't OFFICIALLY get more from Pentium 1.

    • @SUCRA
      @SUCRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the way it is should suffice though.