Great video! 2004 really was an amazing year for PC gaming. HL2, FarCry and Doom3 were all really incredible at the time. I had a 9800 Pro and X850 XT afterward in those days but always loved the look of the higher-end FX series cards. The FX5800 Ultra, 5900 Ultra and 5950 Ultra were all beautiful looking and had a very substantial feel to them. The 9800 pro's tiny little aluminum heatsink looked pretty weak in comparison (which just goes to show how great the R300 series was!) 😃
Thanks! What a year, hey? I have a living x800 albeit it has been running with an aftermarket fan for probably 10 years plus. The FX series is quite interesting, I suppose the more it's talked about, the more I want to mess with them. Don't know about Radeon cooling, those tiny aluminum fans are so week, plus the shim and the yellow thermal cement, feels like a terrible combination!😆
I have a FX 5700 ultra (that still works), and I remember so many hours of delightful gameplay back in the day. I didn't know anything about frame rates, but everything I played seemed to work well and I had lots of fun :)
Great video! It's always fun to see what the top end cards were capable of. And how Nvidia had to pull out basically all the stops to try and catch up with ATI. A much different story any more...
Indeed! Things seem to be a cycle. Like Intel keeps getting it's run for the money on the CPU biz. I'm sure ATI, hmhm, AMD will be up there with new and competitive video cards soon.
I got the ASUS V9950, looks the same so just the FX5900 Ultra with 256MB of ram. Clocks like crazy tough, 540Mhz on the core, ram not so good, 960 at least. Anyways I did replace the ball bearings in those fans, one per fan then there is the bushing that you oild up. Bought them from an RC store, got ceramic ball bearings, but its still rattles , due to the busing being worn I guess so not even new bearings will fix the fans sadly. You probably also noticed how the plastic is brittle like glass on those fans. Considering 40mm Noctua fans in the future. Also have the same Motherboard funny enough 😆 And yea the cooler is very good as you sad, I have the HIS 9800PRO with the dual slot blower and its a hotter card, my FX5900 Ultra handles the heat way better with a single slot cooler so a bit odd considering the FX 5900U and FX 5950 has higher TDP on paper at least then a 9800 PRO. I find that with the FX5900 Ultra and 9800PRO that you are mainly limited by the CPU so the howl what is the best card kind of falls a bit flat if you dont have the CPU and RAM to keep up with them. The FX5900 Ultra scores about 60% higher in many benchmarks (3Dmark, CoD...) with a NF2 Ultra @ 470FSB and ram and a Barton @ 2.23Ghz while the 9800PRO has dual 2Ghz Athlon MP Bartons with 266Mhz FSB and ram. So yea running with an Athlon64 like you did is almost must to get the most out of those cards, the alternative is a very overclocked previous gen system. Anyways good video and I wrote another wall of text but fun seeing people use the things I used too! P.S I hope I did not assume to much 😆🤣
Thanks for watching! You're welcome to write as much as you want. About the CPU, I previously tried running them with a pentium 4 and was clearly limited. Also a core 2 duo is a bit much, they loose a bit of performance on my c2d combo, probably because I can't run the ram at 400 MHz on that system because of Mobo limitations. So for this test I think a64 was the best choice.
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@@SUCRA Talking of Pentium 4's and FX 5950 Ultra. We had a retro early this year and needed 4 machines for visitors so We built two Pentium 4 machines and downgraded a 775 C2D to a P4, about 2.8-3.2Ghz one having HT and dual channel DDR400 so about as fast as it gets on socket 478 with DDR. We also built Two Athlon XP machines with a PR rating in the 2800-3000+ range with DDR. We also used 9700 PRO and two FX5950 Ultra so same as yours. The first P4 system under performed so badly in Quake 4 compared to the Athlon XP 3000+ system both having FX5950 Ultras. I also had my own 2500+ @2.23Ghz and FX5900 Ultra system that I brought for a friend to this retro lan and that system outperformed the P4 heavily but thats a tuned system at 470Mhz bus and ram with NF2 Ultra 400 and DDR500. So we assumed the P4 system was broken somehow but to fix it we decided to build the next one and benchmark that one and compare. Well that system at about 2.8-3Ghz Northwood and a FX5950 Ultra also performed as the other P4 system so now we started to suspect that this is how the P4 systems do perform. In the end both P4 2,8-3Ghz system had to run 800x600 in Quake 4 to get the same FPS as the Athlon XP systems with the 2800-3000+ PR rating all of them using FX 5950 Ultra or the 9700 PRO. Now I know 9700/9800PRo or a FX5900/5950 Ultra SHOULD be fast enough for any of the CPU's from my own builds and testing. One reason being the fact that Quake 4 can use 2 processors so my Dual Athlon MP 2Ghz Barton just crushes the P4 systems with about 50-100% more FPS with a 9800PRO and I know that it takes dual Bartons for my 9800 pro to even register 1% performance gain for them being overlcocked, with my old 2000+ Palominos any OC of the 9800PRO made zero difference in benchmarks. The AMD 760 MPX chipset kind of shit on I/O, RAM, AGP and PCI. So one of the P4 systems had HT so we enabled SMP in Quake 4 for that machine, went from about 30fps to 40fps in the quake 4 timedemo I have created for us (custom). So I guess the good news is that HT or Hyper Threading on the Pentium 4 actually works very well! 30 to 40 fps, thats a massive gain I would say! Just a little to late for most Pentium 4 users XD For some reason the resolution should really just be a GPU limit but its not with the Pentium 4. In Quake 4 the P4 could only match the two Athlon XP 2800+ and 3000+ system we built IF they ran at 800x600 instead of 1024x768 or had a HT capable P4, in any other scenario the Athlon XP would win 40fps to 30fps without settings at 1024x768. So yea the P4 is very odd, we know its a weak CPU but even we where dumb founded how week it is even at a 40-50% Frequency advantage, so IPC is very low. Now Quake 4 might be a bit of a late game for a P4 but still its interesting because with actual dual cores that game can gain up to 70% fps with a fast GPU from my testing. And it can still get a big gain from HT alone with a single core CPU. In the end we built 2x P4 systems and 2x Athlon XP guest systems with a Mix of two FX5950 Ultras and I think one 9700 PRO and Maybe one GF4 card, running out of working 9700/9800 cards. But from most of my testing with a Barton @ 2.23Ghz and 470Mhz FSB and ram on a NF2 Ultra the limit is even then the CPU because my suicide board, DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra 400 can do 500Mhz ram and FSB (I have two 500Mhz sticks) and that still just scales as if the FX5900 Ultra is to fast for it hitting like 18386 in 3Dmark 2000. I ran later 3Dmarks to but yea. My takeaway for messing with old hardware the last 5-6 years is that I/O bandwidth maters, RAM, AGP, PCI, often more then CPU core OC. Also HT is not actually that bad on the P4, but it seems at best to make it on pare with a similar PR rated Athlon XP so yea it just dont make much sens going with the P4 CPU that requires games programed with SMP in mind to perform on pare with the Athlons. But on the other hand if one is building a Pentium 4 system and want s to use games that can benefit from SMP like Quake 4, Quake 3, there is also mtgl32.dll that can be added for SMP support to some games then yes the P4 with HT is the only P4 I would ever use! Going with the Athlon64 for a GPU test sure was the right thing to do! Anything older and you are basically testing the CPU/Chipset/RAM and not the GPU. Anyways another long post but I think its an interesting topic! XD
The FX series... the best part is how many cool designs there where ! Robust, yes... although I have a dead 5950 ultra 😔 ATI was not only faster but had a superior image quality as well. Better AA for example. But the FX series is still one of my favorite series of my collection. Great video !
Very great video! Back in time I loved the FX series despite the poor performance in DX9. They had very good compatibility with old games, excellent performance in DX8.1 and a very good AF filter. But for me the "real" and iconic GeForce FX is the 5800 Ultra equipped with NV30 and DDRII vram modules.
Not to sound like a amd fanboy but back then the radeon 9800 pro/xt was the best videocard. I own both the fx 5950 ultra and the radeon 9800 xt. The xt is better at directx9 while giving sharper image. The radeon gives more stable frame rate. Ive got the fx card more to make fun of.
@@SUCRA Must be bad luck, got 5 variants of the radeon 9800 series all working fine. Even the low quelity versions like the 128bit palid/xvision or the medion 9800 xxl. The 128bit version is funny as they were sold under the same name but got performance nearly halved.
@@SUCRAyeah it could play spore too, 500 MB SDRAM wasn't enough top at the time , so Even ATI 9250 could handle it, I was bottlenecked by ram not by GPU or CPU Had 4x128 MB , I guess. 4x256 MB would have been a straight update
Back in 2004 I got in computer gaming! I wanted the best performance! I had a Amd 5700 cpu! When buying the gpu! I went to comp USA! The salesman told me to buy the Nvidia 5900! But the 9800 pro ati was calling my name! I loved the 9800 pro
Noice!!! You're lucky for having one. I on the other hand have never found a 6800 Ultra locally, the last piece missing from my dream retro PC build. All I got were two broken 6800 GTs. Still I'd be more than happy if I somehow found a 5900 or 5950 Ultra.
Yeah it's a shame how many collectors are running into dead or soon-to-be-dead 9700/9800 cards. I guess the memory interface might be the culprit in most cases. Great video!
I see! I always thought it was the GPU die and bad cooling. Funny I have to try to convince some people they're not very robust at all haha. But I guess that each ones experiences is what counts!
so hard to find these FX 5950 Ultras. looking back, I wonder why the FX 5800 Ultra and FX 5800 didn't have a 256bit memory bus. The GDDR2 memory clocked at 500 and 400 would have benefitted a lot.
Great and entertaining video as usual. Frankly such card at the time was only bought by nVidia fanboys or those who wish to buy the most expensive thing.
Thinking about GeForce FX and Half Life 2, is there any possibility to get an early version right now? Is it possible to downgrade through steam to an earlyer version, that supports DX7/DX8? I would like to try it out again on my aging Pentium 4 powered Laptop, that has a GeForce Go FX 5350 (or something like that). I know for sure i played Half Life 2 on it at low settings. Around 3 or 4 years ago, i started this aged laptop for fun again (and to find out, what i had on it) and first thing i did, was to play half life 2 with low settings (that i set to DX8, i think) with around 40 - 70 fps. But i had to reinstall it this year (dieing hdd) and Half Life 2 just refuse to start (maybe i just forgot to install some needed software, i'm not sure)
Hey buddy, thanks for your comment. It's not possible to get an earlier version of HL2 through steam. But there are websites out there that make it available. Considering you already have it I see no problems with downloading it. But you have to look for it and ask around, maybe ask someone on a retro tech discord server.
I was not a fan of the FX series. I did buy a few models to test out the 5700 Ultra and the 5900 Ultra but was quite unimpressed by their performance once I forced PS 2.0 in DX9 titles. They are nice collector items though. They represent nVIDIA's largest slip up.
Really? I thought this one worked out pretty well with the latest released driver for them. Not brilliant like a 9800 XT, imo, but their still fun to use and talk about.
@@SUCRA Oh, the nVIDIA drivers by-pass PS2.0 and aren't actually doing the full 24-bit floating point precision shading. They run a PS1.4 path instead (DX 8.0) which uses 16-bit floating point values. The GeForceFX is thus not rendering the same thing as the equivalent Radeons of the day.
@@SUCRA geforce 6800 ultra gives you the ability to combine the processing power of two graphics cards with one sli cable but nvidia quadro fx 1000 sli nvidia quadro fx 4000 sli graphics cards are better quality
@@SUCRA 3dfx voodoo1 pci graphics card is connected with sli cable to two 3dfx voodoo2 pci with vga cable connect to nvidia quadro fx 1000nv30 agp8 then it is sli but installing plug for sli on geforce fx 5800nv30 ultra graphics cards geforce 5900nv30 geforce 5950nv30 geforce 6800nv40 ultra nvidia quadro fx 1000nv30 nvidia quadro fx 4000nv40 is possible in the factory under quality control I will show you capitalists that scammers will pay financial penalties for inferior quality
nv35 core is inferior to nv30 geforce fx 5800 ultra is the most efficient version nv30 core 256 megabytes memory therefore geforce fx 5900 ultra should have two nv30 cores 512 megabytes memory agp8pro bus
I remember this era with a lot of nostalgia . I am wondering about Rome total war , it was released 2004. I remember that it did need a lot of vr ram. I think this g force got this game descent 🙂
Total war is such a great game! I remember when I first played that with my cheap 5.1 speaker set, it has positional audio with reverb, it's so well made.
I agree. I own both and indeed ati 9800 pro is generally faster. But what makes the FX to be my winner is the fact that I experiment much more bugs with the 9800 pro. Many are not obvious from the beginning and most seems to be related to scenes involving mirror surfaces, shades or missing characters geometry. In a game i encountered hidden enemies (i could see the enemies shade, but not the enemies itself) in some scenes. I tried different drivers with no success on fixing those problems. I also have the same problem with others models from the ATI 9xxx series so i don't think the cause is a faulty gpu.
@@madalin4802 MY 9800 PRO OR ANY OF THE OTHER WAS GREAT HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THEM WHAT SO EVER ON THE OTHER HAND NAVIDIA WELL LOOK IN THE BOG THE FX WAS A TURD THE PROBLEMS I HAD AND THE MAG AT THE TIME WAS BAD FX WAS SH-T FAR CRY WAS BAD SORRY NAVIDA WAS CRAP AND STILL IS
@@mikespikeey4625 i will try when i have time to come with exact list of the games I'm talking about so you can check for yourself if you are curious. I must say i have huge collection of old games so it is very possible this may not happen to you if you don't try a huge amount of games...
Great video! 2004 really was an amazing year for PC gaming. HL2, FarCry and Doom3 were all really incredible at the time. I had a 9800 Pro and X850 XT afterward in those days but always loved the look of the higher-end FX series cards. The FX5800 Ultra, 5900 Ultra and 5950 Ultra were all beautiful looking and had a very substantial feel to them. The 9800 pro's tiny little aluminum heatsink looked pretty weak in comparison (which just goes to show how great the R300 series was!) 😃
Thanks! What a year, hey? I have a living x800 albeit it has been running with an aftermarket fan for probably 10 years plus. The FX series is quite interesting, I suppose the more it's talked about, the more I want to mess with them. Don't know about Radeon cooling, those tiny aluminum fans are so week, plus the shim and the yellow thermal cement, feels like a terrible combination!😆
Painkiller was also a dope game from 2004 :)
I have a FX 5700 ultra (that still works), and I remember so many hours of delightful gameplay back in the day. I didn't know anything about frame rates, but everything I played seemed to work well and I had lots of fun :)
Indeed, we hardly cared about numbers as long as we could play the games! Have a great day!
Great video! It's always fun to see what the top end cards were capable of. And how Nvidia had to pull out basically all the stops to try and catch up with ATI. A much different story any more...
Indeed! Things seem to be a cycle. Like Intel keeps getting it's run for the money on the CPU biz. I'm sure ATI, hmhm, AMD will be up there with new and competitive video cards soon.
awesome card. i have an oem 5900 ultra; the heatsinks feel like they're made of cast iron. built like a brick (out)house!
I have to agree! I enjoyed this thing more than I anticipated!
awesome, you got quite a piece there!
agreed, that roland is sounding great
Thanks man! I'm glad the sound from the Roland came across. I was excited to use my new audio capture solution too, minimal noise I think.
Great card, great video. Take care sir.
Thanks! You too, good luck on your content!
I got the ASUS V9950, looks the same so just the FX5900 Ultra with 256MB of ram.
Clocks like crazy tough, 540Mhz on the core, ram not so good, 960 at least.
Anyways I did replace the ball bearings in those fans, one per fan then there is the bushing that you oild up.
Bought them from an RC store, got ceramic ball bearings, but its still rattles , due to the busing being worn I guess so not even new bearings will fix the fans sadly.
You probably also noticed how the plastic is brittle like glass on those fans.
Considering 40mm Noctua fans in the future.
Also have the same Motherboard funny enough 😆
And yea the cooler is very good as you sad, I have the HIS 9800PRO with the dual slot blower and its a hotter card, my FX5900 Ultra handles the heat way better with a single slot cooler so a bit odd considering the FX 5900U and FX 5950 has higher TDP on paper at least then a 9800 PRO.
I find that with the FX5900 Ultra and 9800PRO that you are mainly limited by the CPU so the howl what is the best card kind of falls a bit flat if you dont have the CPU and RAM to keep up with them.
The FX5900 Ultra scores about 60% higher in many benchmarks (3Dmark, CoD...) with a NF2 Ultra @ 470FSB and ram and a Barton @ 2.23Ghz while the 9800PRO has dual 2Ghz Athlon MP Bartons with 266Mhz FSB and ram.
So yea running with an Athlon64 like you did is almost must to get the most out of those cards, the alternative is a very overclocked previous gen system.
Anyways good video and I wrote another wall of text but fun seeing people use the things I used too!
P.S I hope I did not assume to much 😆🤣
Thanks for watching! You're welcome to write as much as you want. About the CPU, I previously tried running them with a pentium 4 and was clearly limited. Also a core 2 duo is a bit much, they loose a bit of performance on my c2d combo, probably because I can't run the ram at 400 MHz on that system because of Mobo limitations. So for this test I think a64 was the best choice.
@@SUCRA Talking of Pentium 4's and FX 5950 Ultra.
We had a retro early this year and needed 4 machines for visitors so We built two Pentium 4 machines and downgraded a 775 C2D to a P4, about 2.8-3.2Ghz one having HT and dual channel DDR400 so about as fast as it gets on socket 478 with DDR.
We also built Two Athlon XP machines with a PR rating in the 2800-3000+ range with DDR.
We also used 9700 PRO and two FX5950 Ultra so same as yours.
The first P4 system under performed so badly in Quake 4 compared to the Athlon XP 3000+ system both having FX5950 Ultras.
I also had my own 2500+ @2.23Ghz and FX5900 Ultra system that I brought for a friend to this retro lan and that system outperformed the P4 heavily but thats a tuned system at 470Mhz bus and ram with NF2 Ultra 400 and DDR500.
So we assumed the P4 system was broken somehow but to fix it we decided to build the next one and benchmark that one and compare.
Well that system at about 2.8-3Ghz Northwood and a FX5950 Ultra also performed as the other P4 system so now we started to suspect that this is how the P4 systems do perform.
In the end both P4 2,8-3Ghz system had to run 800x600 in Quake 4 to get the same FPS as the Athlon XP systems with the 2800-3000+ PR rating all of them using FX 5950 Ultra or the 9700 PRO.
Now I know 9700/9800PRo or a FX5900/5950 Ultra SHOULD be fast enough for any of the CPU's from my own builds and testing.
One reason being the fact that Quake 4 can use 2 processors so my Dual Athlon MP 2Ghz Barton just crushes the P4 systems with about 50-100% more FPS with a 9800PRO and I know that it takes dual Bartons for my 9800 pro to even register 1% performance gain for them being overlcocked, with my old 2000+ Palominos any OC of the 9800PRO made zero difference in benchmarks.
The AMD 760 MPX chipset kind of shit on I/O, RAM, AGP and PCI.
So one of the P4 systems had HT so we enabled SMP in Quake 4 for that machine, went from about 30fps to 40fps in the quake 4 timedemo I have created for us (custom).
So I guess the good news is that HT or Hyper Threading on the Pentium 4 actually works very well!
30 to 40 fps, thats a massive gain I would say!
Just a little to late for most Pentium 4 users XD
For some reason the resolution should really just be a GPU limit but its not with the Pentium 4.
In Quake 4 the P4 could only match the two Athlon XP 2800+ and 3000+ system we built IF they ran at 800x600 instead of 1024x768 or had a HT capable P4, in any other scenario the Athlon XP would win 40fps to 30fps without settings at 1024x768.
So yea the P4 is very odd, we know its a weak CPU but even we where dumb founded how week it is even at a 40-50% Frequency advantage, so IPC is very low.
Now Quake 4 might be a bit of a late game for a P4 but still its interesting because with actual dual cores that game can gain up to 70% fps with a fast GPU from my testing.
And it can still get a big gain from HT alone with a single core CPU.
In the end we built 2x P4 systems and 2x Athlon XP guest systems with a Mix of two FX5950 Ultras and I think one 9700 PRO and Maybe one GF4 card, running out of working 9700/9800 cards.
But from most of my testing with a Barton @ 2.23Ghz and 470Mhz FSB and ram on a NF2 Ultra the limit is even then the CPU because my suicide board, DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra 400 can do 500Mhz ram and FSB (I have two 500Mhz sticks) and that still just scales as if the FX5900 Ultra is to fast for it hitting like 18386 in 3Dmark 2000.
I ran later 3Dmarks to but yea.
My takeaway for messing with old hardware the last 5-6 years is that I/O bandwidth maters, RAM, AGP, PCI, often more then CPU core OC.
Also HT is not actually that bad on the P4, but it seems at best to make it on pare with a similar PR rated Athlon XP so yea it just dont make much sens going with the P4 CPU that requires games programed with SMP in mind to perform on pare with the Athlons.
But on the other hand if one is building a Pentium 4 system and want s to use games that can benefit from SMP like Quake 4, Quake 3, there is also mtgl32.dll that can be added for SMP support to some games then yes the P4 with HT is the only P4 I would ever use!
Going with the Athlon64 for a GPU test sure was the right thing to do!
Anything older and you are basically testing the CPU/Chipset/RAM and not the GPU.
Anyways another long post but I think its an interesting topic! XD
The FX series... the best part is how many cool designs there where ! Robust, yes... although I have a dead 5950 ultra 😔 ATI was not only faster but had a superior image quality as well. Better AA for example. But the FX series is still one of my favorite series of my collection. Great video !
Thanks! I don't know, something about the FX series that makes it kind of quirky I suppose. Specially when they're pretty good, like this one.
Very great video! Back in time I loved the FX series despite the poor performance in DX9. They had very good compatibility with old games, excellent performance in DX8.1 and a very good AF filter. But for me the "real" and iconic GeForce FX is the 5800 Ultra equipped with NV30 and DDRII vram modules.
Yeah, they were once despised but now they're great for retro, probably the best. Thanks for watching, have a great day!
Not to sound like a amd fanboy but back then the radeon 9800 pro/xt was the best videocard. I own both the fx 5950 ultra and the radeon 9800 xt. The xt is better at directx9 while giving sharper image. The radeon gives more stable frame rate. Ive got the fx card more to make fun of.
No doubt! I agree to that. Unfortunately my top of the line ATI cards are mostly dead. But yeah, in that point in time I wouldn't touch Nvidia.
@@SUCRA Must be bad luck, got 5 variants of the radeon 9800 series all working fine. Even the low quelity versions like the 128bit palid/xvision or the medion 9800 xxl. The 128bit version is funny as they were sold under the same name but got performance nearly halved.
@@SUCRAyeah it could play spore too, 500 MB SDRAM wasn't enough top at the time , so Even ATI 9250 could handle it, I was bottlenecked by ram not by GPU or CPU
Had 4x128 MB , I guess. 4x256 MB would have been a straight update
I owned the MSI FX5900 Ultra. The card was heavy for its time.
Haha accurate. Heavy indeed.
Back in 2004 I got in computer gaming! I wanted the best performance! I had a Amd 5700 cpu! When buying the gpu! I went to comp USA! The salesman told me to buy the Nvidia 5900! But the 9800 pro ati was calling my name! I loved the 9800 pro
The 9800 pro is an amazing video card. A better version of the ground breaking 9700 pro. Thanks for your comment
Noice!!! You're lucky for having one. I on the other hand have never found a 6800 Ultra locally, the last piece missing from my dream retro PC build. All I got were two broken 6800 GTs. Still I'd be more than happy if I somehow found a 5900 or 5950 Ultra.
Thanks, and hey, keep looking, they come up from time to time!
cool video about the fx 5950 ultra.🙂 i have 2 5950 ultra in my collection that work fine.
Thanks! Yeah they seem like they can stand the test of time!
God this FX series was a disaster, my 5700fx was always on fire. Later bought 6600 gt and it was much better. Fx series was nvidia huge misstep
Indeed, they were a bit last gen compared to AMD. 6000 gt series was pretty good though.
Yeah it's a shame how many collectors are running into dead or soon-to-be-dead 9700/9800 cards. I guess the memory interface might be the culprit in most cases.
Great video!
I see! I always thought it was the GPU die and bad cooling. Funny I have to try to convince some people they're not very robust at all haha. But I guess that each ones experiences is what counts!
@@SUCRA i got a 9800 pro im afraid to use, cause even with its little fan on full speed that heatsink too hot to touch
I would be afraid too buddy. But maybe throw in a couple of fans outside blowing at it and that should make it somewhat safe to use.
the fx series basically cheated on drivers to reduce quality to get higher fps lol
hah indeed, that did happen to the 5800 I think. I believe Nvidia was publicly shamed and fixed that for the 5950.
Nice too see ya back in busines with retro hardware videos.
I hope don't have to wait until #GPUJune4 for new ones.
Thanks man, and heeey I had a few videos about retro hardware the last few months!
I had the FX5700 when HL2 came out and it ran fine on my pc so I have no idea how folk can say it struggled on the FX5950 Ultra.
so hard to find these FX 5950 Ultras. looking back, I wonder why the FX 5800 Ultra and FX 5800 didn't have a 256bit memory bus. The GDDR2 memory clocked at 500 and 400 would have benefitted a lot.
Indeed. I lucked out in some of these finds, yet I'm missing so many. Like the FX 5800, it's got such interesting history.
Call of duty UO was it back in 2004
ok
Beautiful card ,I have one
Sweet!
They couldn’t push bioshock either
yep
Great and entertaining video as usual.
Frankly such card at the time was only bought by nVidia fanboys or those who wish to buy the most expensive thing.
Haha it was indeed hard to justify shelling 500 USD for one of those back then. You're not wrong.
geforce fx 5950 was equipped with two nv30 cores agp8pro
@@prezeskodaty4637 alrighty
cut to me playing Unreal Tournament 3 at 320x240 resolution on this card
Thinking about GeForce FX and Half Life 2, is there any possibility to get an early version right now? Is it possible to downgrade through steam to an earlyer version, that supports DX7/DX8?
I would like to try it out again on my aging Pentium 4 powered Laptop, that has a GeForce Go FX 5350 (or something like that). I know for sure i played Half Life 2 on it at low settings. Around 3 or 4 years ago, i started this aged laptop for fun again (and to find out, what i had on it) and first thing i did, was to play half life 2 with low settings (that i set to DX8, i think) with around 40 - 70 fps. But i had to reinstall it this year (dieing hdd) and Half Life 2 just refuse to start (maybe i just forgot to install some needed software, i'm not sure)
Hey buddy, thanks for your comment. It's not possible to get an earlier version of HL2 through steam. But there are websites out there that make it available. Considering you already have it I see no problems with downloading it. But you have to look for it and ask around, maybe ask someone on a retro tech discord server.
I was not a fan of the FX series. I did buy a few models to test out the 5700 Ultra and the 5900 Ultra but was quite unimpressed by their performance once I forced PS 2.0 in DX9 titles. They are nice collector items though. They represent nVIDIA's largest slip up.
Really? I thought this one worked out pretty well with the latest released driver for them. Not brilliant like a 9800 XT, imo, but their still fun to use and talk about.
@@SUCRA Oh, the nVIDIA drivers by-pass PS2.0 and aren't actually doing the full 24-bit floating point precision shading. They run a PS1.4 path instead (DX 8.0) which uses 16-bit floating point values. The GeForceFX is thus not rendering the same thing as the equivalent Radeons of the day.
@@thepcenthusiastchannel2300 I see.
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
First one!
geforce fx 5950 ultra should have two nv30 cores 512 megabytes memory pci express 1.0 bus
Well they really pulled it off with the 6000 series.
@@SUCRA geforce 6800 ultra gives you the ability to combine the processing power of two graphics cards with one sli cable but nvidia quadro fx 1000 sli nvidia quadro fx 4000 sli graphics cards are better quality
@prezeskodaty4637 sweet, I don't think I currently own a pci-e version of the 6800. I know I have the agp version. Obviously no sli there.
@@SUCRA 3dfx voodoo1 pci graphics card is connected with sli cable to two 3dfx voodoo2 pci with vga cable connect to nvidia quadro fx 1000nv30 agp8 then it is sli but installing plug for sli on geforce fx 5800nv30 ultra graphics cards geforce 5900nv30 geforce 5950nv30 geforce 6800nv40 ultra nvidia quadro fx 1000nv30 nvidia quadro fx 4000nv40 is possible in the factory under quality control I will show you capitalists that scammers will pay financial penalties for inferior quality
nv35 core is inferior to nv30 geforce fx 5800 ultra is the most efficient version nv30 core 256 megabytes memory therefore geforce fx 5900 ultra should have two nv30 cores 512 megabytes memory agp8pro bus
I suppose they could have made it better in many ways. In any case I do enjoy this video card.
I remember this era with a lot of nostalgia . I am wondering about Rome total war , it was released 2004. I remember that it did need a lot of vr ram. I think this g force got this game descent 🙂
Total war is such a great game! I remember when I first played that with my cheap 5.1 speaker set, it has positional audio with reverb, it's so well made.
i remember it as being the beast joke of 2003 the fx range was crap ati 9800pro or xt was better
Absolutely. Performance wise you're right on. Unfortunately I think the FXs are bound to stand the test of time better.
I agree. I own both and indeed ati 9800 pro is generally faster. But what makes the FX to be my winner is the fact that I experiment much more bugs with the 9800 pro. Many are not obvious from the beginning and most seems to be related to scenes involving mirror surfaces, shades or missing characters geometry. In a game i encountered hidden enemies (i could see the enemies shade, but not the enemies itself) in some scenes. I tried different drivers with no success on fixing those problems. I also have the same problem with others models from the ATI 9xxx series so i don't think the cause is a faulty gpu.
@@madalin4802 MY 9800 PRO OR ANY OF THE OTHER WAS GREAT HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THEM WHAT SO EVER ON THE OTHER HAND NAVIDIA WELL LOOK IN THE BOG THE FX WAS A TURD THE PROBLEMS I HAD AND THE MAG AT THE TIME WAS BAD FX WAS SH-T FAR CRY WAS BAD SORRY NAVIDA WAS CRAP AND STILL IS
@@mikespikeey4625 i will try when i have time to come with exact list of the games I'm talking about so you can check for yourself if you are curious. I must say i have huge collection of old games so it is very possible this may not happen to you if you don't try a huge amount of games...