Professor M was 18 in the 1990. Join him as he spins a spell on his view of the Goth Subculture and his life in the alternative world through his own eyes. #vampire #Goth #90s
I am also 51 so I can definitely say that you described many aspects about the 90’s goth era very well. It’s amazing to think back and remember that it wasn’t as easy to go out shopping or online to buy anything we wanted or needed. 🦇
Janiebrossman ~ Good to hear from you always. I am glad you like the material mentioned. The 90s was alive and yes, agreed, wasn't it a different world going out and shopping off-line? 1990s I never thought record stores would become a thing of the past.
@janie and Professor M, very well said. And yes, I too thought record stores would never go by the wayside. I remember going to thrift stores to buy my Goth clothing, Black velvet and dark burgundy velvet tops, two pairs of black jeans, one thrift store black dress, and two pairs of black shoes to go with my [then] tiny wardrobe. Nowadays, thanks to all the goth "haul" fashion videos out there, I bought a few original Tripp nyc coats, red balls on fire coats, but really nothing newer except my makeup and nail polish. I remember back then having a terrible time even finding an eyeshadow close to black. And finding black lipstick was only during the Halloween season I recall. 🦇
@@EB1878 " And finding black lipstick was only during the Halloween season I recall" Totally- and it was this waxy cheap junky children toy quality that also came with green, white, black and red face paint Ha-Ha, yet to a true goth, that black waxy cheap junky children's toy quality Halloween make up was AWESOME!
@@EB1878 "I too thought record stores would never go by the wayside" ABSOULTELY, I never ever thought that record stores with come to an end. There is something magic about vinyl
A few things come to mind. Endless "I am more goth than you" discussions. There were very little readymade goth inspired fashions, you had to find and combine yourself, in trift shops, flea markets, grand parents wardrobe etc, it easily took years to get an outfit together. On internet my favorite was "the goth club list". I traveled a lot and visited maybe 25 clubs in 12 countries, very much thanks to that list. Very little social media, if you did not live a place where there was a scene you could easily miss it. I first found the subculture through internet in -94/95, even though I was into the music, fashion, books, cinema, architecture since early 80s. I just did not know about the goth subculture. There were much less music that was regarded as goth (just as all music genres have exploded the last decades). It was almost impossible for a bystander to tell part different subcultures: goths, heavy metal, bikers, bdsm/fetish, techno/industry music, new age satanists etc.
Northernway- Absolutely. Yes, agreed. The "more goth than you" deal, that was the part of the 90s that made me cringe. Tell me more about the Goth Club List!--- Also " It was almost impossible for a bystander to tell part different subcultures: goths, heavy metal, bikers, bdsm/fetish, techno/industry music" my reply is true, its like a blur to some. And we stand together looking at ways to say "Goth here" and "other genre there". Welcome to the channel!🎩
Thank you very much! The club list still exists as a snapshot from 2006, google “Gothic International Club Listing”. I used to come to the clubs just as they opened for the evening. Those that turn up then are usually the friendly and social core of the local scene. If you made an effort to dress up, you usually got a warm welcome. I have many fond memories from those visits.
😊Yes I can relate! It was harder to find the scene back then. Reminds me of when I found a Goth blog way back in 2002 during my sophomore year in highschool. I remember just looking up Goth and finding that blog. Which was written by a Goth girl in the U.K. and it had links to record labels and talked about the scene. Having lived in a small town in the rural south here in America, that blog really was my way into the scene. I got into Darkwave and Ethereal Goth (Love Is Colder Than Death) thanks to that blog. Still going strong to this day at age thirty eight!❤🦇🦇
This video is actually really interesting. I’m 17 and have been really interested in 90s fashion and music for the past few years along with goth and other alternative fashion and music subcultures, and recently I have gotten really curious about the 90s goth scene in specific since it seemed like goth was a much bigger community back then and the variation of types of goth seemed much wider. Hearing that goth clubs existed in such a way that they did seems like so much fun, kinda sucks that they don’t exist anymore in most places, and I live in a large city too. Seems like a lot of alternative scenes are dying out. Even a lot of the punk venues in my city are shutting down which is crazy because of how big our punk scene was up until the 2000s. But thank you for the vid! Very informative!!
St3phdoesstuff - I love your ID. Very cool. You are correct. It was much bigger, then, it started to vanish. Now we are in a come back in 2020s. Thank you so much for your comment and Welcome to the channel! 🎩
40'ish Goth here. My tendency to, occasionally, blindly spin the algorithm wheel. Has brought to me this wonderfulful gem. Oh the things I did to get a hold of a good, black lip colour. Often disappointed but certain that somewhere, out there... You know. Most often, by the time the night was done, I tended to look like i had been punched in the mouth. Australia just didnt seem to want to know, sad. You were a delight to listen to and I look forward to more. I bid thee well, sir.
Our experiences seem similar. The "classic" goth music was the core of the scene. The secret hidden record stores. Walking through one bar to get to the back room, where the goth DJ played. Anne Rice was an inspiration to everyone who wore black and admired vampires. And, yes, the beginnings of Industrial, ie: Skinny Puppy were a thing. I remember the first few gothic outfits that today would be called "pastel". The scene was very exclusive. It took months to be accepted and climb the "food chain". And everyone had a snobby attitude. It was part of the style.
Ohh yesss, the '90's...I worked in a video rental kiosk inside a grocery/general merchandise store, and being black-clothed, "unusual" jewelry-wearing (think dragons, unicorns, red teardrop beads, swords and daggers, lightning bolts, cats, Egyptian symbols, etc.), I was constantly being asked if I performed sacrifices during the full moon.🙄 Your makeup looks great! Makeup was one thing I didn't do often, usually just some lipstick and skin just naturally pale. I do like red, black, and gray eyeshadow occasionally
Yvonnepeltier- Thank you so much, reading your story was fun. I smiled at ' if I performed sacrifices during the full moon.🙄" Hhahah- that fun!-- And thank you, I may do another make up tutorial in the future. Welcome to the channel!
Great video. I have so many memories of those bygone days. I will say that the 90s gatekeepers were the bane of my existence. I never felt “goth enough “ for so much of those years because I actually had a job and didn’t wear goth makeup on a daily basis. The club scene was amazing though. I am from LA and the goth scene there in the 90s was robust. Now, at age 51, I’m one of the most goth people I know! Hahaha! I never grew out of it! And now I have baby goth daughters who don’t have to prove how goth they are.
Sarawalker- Thank you. Honored. And yes, 90s gatekeepers-- oye. I never saw that in the 80s. We are both 51, as you saw the number appears over my head every time I mention my age. And that to me is the true sign of a Goth-Goth one who never grew out of it.
I am a year older than you and found the scene in DC at Trax. Like other clubs, Goth night was on Thursday, and we were relegated to the small dance floor in a huge gay club that took up half of a city block. I loved the old industrial music like Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Chemlab, Sister Machine Gun, and NIN. Way back then, we had to scout the baby internet via webrings for music information. 🖤 I lived in rural VA, so I didn't even have a Hot Topic to shop in, so I had to thrift and refashioned whatever black garments I could find. I still have a leather bustier bought from a BDSM store, and my uniform was a skirt or tiny shorts, fishnets, and my cheap knee-high combat boots. Now, at 52, I've graduated to corsets, net skirts, and gorgeous Frye knee-high boots.
Hello ~ Yes. I'm 1972. So 51 currently. There were tons of gay bars in Columbus Ohio when I lived there that had alternative nights. Front 242 definitely! NitzerEbb I first heard on 120 minutes on MTV in 1980s like at 2AM instead of sleeping for going to school I was up watching MTV alternative. Cheryl welcome to the channel 🎩
I love your style Professor M. And your memories of the 90's Goth scene, spot on too. ❤🦇🥰 Unfortunately, where I live there wasn't a goth scene even going way back to 1998 when I became Goth. Goth makeup, as I recall, was mostly Manic Panic sold at Hot Topic, and through mail order catalogs like the now defunct Siren goth store in Canada, and Ipso-Facto in California (which is still going good). For me, I never heard "Poser" , but I'd have plenty of well-meaning religious people approach me in my baby bat days asking me if I found Jesus, etc. Back then, I was a young introvert. Nowadays I'm more personable and enjoy telling the younger baby bats what it was like for us "back in our days"... and some of the young Goths I spoke with can't comprehend there was ever a time when we couldn't go out in public wearing black clothes, pale makeup, unique jewelry less risk being called weirdos, freaks, etc. Now this whole "gatekeeper" mentality I'm confused by as I see it so often in the goth comment sections, I see younger Goths on here trying to explain it, but thankfully I never tell people what's Goth and what isn't. In my own observation, if a person is happy with their attire and call it Goth, that's awesome. I think the 90's had its fair share of social unacceptable views towards Goths in general, at least where I'm at anyway it did. And surprisingly Professor M, I ran into a lady (my age) and worked at a Halloween store that was 2nd year running in our tiny mall. She and I got to talking during a slow day. I need to clarify I'm just a regular customer, and the lady distinctly remembered me from many years ago shopping in our mall. I vaguely remembered her until she mentioned "Gadzooks", a has-been, never could succeed fashion store that went bankrupt by the early 2000's. She and I gave the younger Goths working at the Halloween store some hilarious times of how we looked years ago (not much changed for her nor I). We still look the same, just older. 😊 By doing so, I made several new friends, but alas there's still that one thing my town lacks, a local Goth scene. When the Halloween store closed for the season, I kept in contact with the lady that's my age. The other Goths I met I see only occasionally around. The only snide remark I received recently (after Halloween) was when I ran to the grocery store in my usual Goth finery wearing a black velvet damask top hat I added a skeleton hand hair clip to hold the hat veil in back, so it does garner attention both good and not so good. Right as I pass down an aisle, one older woman whispers loud enough to her friend so I could hear, "Doesn't she realize Halloween is over?" She half-laughs, her friend replies, "We must be living in the Matrix. " I say nothing and proceed about my business. It wasn't as harsh a comment like I'd have received years ago, but it brought, Jillian Venter's book to my mind, Gothic Charm School, a book you recommend in one of your other videos. But when it's late and you've been on the go on your only day off, rather than stoop to their level of immaturity, I blew them off and just rolled my eyes. I enjoyed this video. Brought back the times I'd hang out at the local coffee gallery (now defunct). I'd sit in a candlelit table enjoying either a grave digger coffee with three shots of espresso and piled high with Readi-whip, or other times enjoyed an Italian cream soda and listen to open mic night. Since I was the only Goth there I stood out like a sore thumb, but was treated good. No discrimination nor nothing. For me, my 90's Goth times were exciting yet restricted since I was in my late teens back then. I think I feel a better sense of liberation now as an elder Goth since the Goth subculture is commonplace (or becoming more accessible) with stores catering to wide arrays of fashion, makeup, etc. 🦇🧛♀️😊
EB- This was the nicest comment. A full story, and I joke you not I could make another video based just on the info you left above. Very Happy to read this !!🖤🦇🎩
@gothicallyyoursprofessorm.7222 Thank you Professor M for your feedback and kind response. ❤🥰 always a true pleasure to inspire those I meet. 😊 Those times for me in the late 90's were unique, a little lonely since there was never a Goth scene in my area that I was ever aware of. But all in all, it was still exciting since dial up internet was commonplace entertainment after work in the evenings and chat rooms were buzzing with people from all over on any given night. I look back and still sense the fun I had, the daring youth I was striving to be unique, to be true to myself, to be dark and somewhat mysterious. And all because I was younger back then and getting ready to fly from the belfry to strike out on my own. (Instead of flying from the parents bird's nest I refer to it as bats in the belfry since I was then a baby bat). 😅 I'll certainly look forward to watching your newest video as I'm happy that my story was inspiring to you. ❤🦇 I always enjoy reading comments on your channel from other Goths (including you). It helps to hear from other Goths young and older recount their stories, their experiences, feelings, what the societal views were like from their point of view compared to nowadays, etc. - EB (a.k.a. "The Victrola Lady" ), who still hasn't found her Goth name yet.🤷♀️
I’ve started delving into Edwardian goth which seems to have found a resurgence these days I thought it was a more modern thing but now I know it’s been a thing since the 90s
Sir Gothington ~ good to hear from you! Yes, the Edwardian look has a resurgence in the 90s. One hat that I wear is definitely a low flat top Edwardian style. I check out all your posts!
Great video, I love these kinds of nostalgic trips! The goth subculture is the one closest to my heart. A pity I picked it up first when I was 32, in the the mid 90s. I have always been curious and fascinated by subcultures and by people inside them. I might not always share the mindset but I want to understand them. Before goth, my journey from late 70s until included peeks into such diverging groups as green environmentalists, punk, urban culture vultures, tech nerds (ham radio, computers), foodies, rock climbers, winter trekking, music (classic, mainstream, alternative), new age, fetish, extreme religious sects, conspiracy theories, science nerds. But goth (in the mid 90s) really spoke to me. For the first time I did not feel like someone "under cover", that had a non-compatible other life as well. Guess I was very lucky that got introduced to including people, who accepted that people came from very different places in life. Not the standard 90s horror story meeting arrogant elite goths that disdained newbies. I loved the cultural curiosity that acted as a backdrop for goths. Yes, classic music was great, but so was postpunk and industrial. You were very much free to find your own look, colours were ok, as long as the end result stood out as "goth enough". As mentioned trad goth and victorian dominated, but there were plenty of others as well. A subculture that also include literature, film, architecture, even food and drinks, added several gold stars from me. Most subcultures at that time were not as broadminded, and I feel I can say that from real experience. Black lipstick - so true. I hunted down a high quality one for my partner. It took more than a year, and several very questionable samples leading there.
Greetings, Professor! The 90s, wow! That was quite a time for me, too. I was enured in Baroque & classical music, & giving concerts, though. Oh & I love rotary telephones. I have one even now, but I want a candlestick telephone. By the way, I have a cape like that, too! I have a couple of questions/video ideas if i may? Could you go more in-depth on Vampire Goth style & what singles it out as different? Also, could you talk more about Goth fragrances, what people wore then, what people wear now? Finally, i love your makeup tutorials, but could you do a video about very subtle ways to add a touch of makeup for daily wear for this shy little vampire?
I would sneak Army store palm lights, I'd switch to Red mode to move around without breaking my leg. The price of authenticity! Lordy Trads used to rate you Baby Bats, coming along, or Poseurs. It was a real pain back then in your learning phase. If you hadn't seen opening night in France, some were snorting still. I only knew the Cure, I thought 'Dead of Alive' was goth, Echo and The Bunnymen, maybe this girl in England, Susie or something? :)
Just found your channel. I’m a Goth that will change up my fashion and sometimes even cosplay as “normal” just for fun. I love all this information you’re giving about a time where I was too little to remember and was not a part of but I feel like 17:08 you can’t really talk about that in this day and age because the Goth culture nowadays is too sensitive and they hate being labeled because that’s not what real Goths do. I think it’s important for labels to exist because for people just getting into it or learning about the scene, how else are they supposed to learn if you’re throwing all of that out the window? Hope to see more from you, my friend 🦇
Hello RichLunaMusic- Sorry for the late late reply, we are in the middle of exams week at college. A new video is coming out soon. Thank you for a great comment! And I loved the last sentence " how else are they supposed to learn if you’re throwing all of that out the window?" perfectly and well said!!! Welcome to the channel!
Thanks for sharing those memories. It was intresting to hear them... And I had lots of fun during the 80s too with the colors. Cause I am little older. I do remember have to order things from paper magazines. And then have to wait for the things to arrive by mail. 90s was fun and in our clubs it was often a mix of goth and industrial. Stay safe and weird Professor M 🦇🖤🖤🖤🖤🦇
Sanniz~You and I are both 80s generation, and the 90s was the second part of our life. I'm more 80s loving than 90s because of less adult things I had to get involved with. Life was simpler ❤ And interestingly enough paper catalogs were fun^^
Sounds like you have some wonderful memories from that time :) I came in around 98 so I missed most of that time. I never personally met any Goths or was around them. There were mall goths and I had my son, but that was all; so it was pretty lonely and still is for me. I live in a different state now, but I still have never met any Goths. I guess they are mainly in the larger cities. Great to see you again :)
Moonflowerfaire~ hello 🌙 🌼 always good to hear from you. The 90s were my teen to pre adult years so it's such an interesting time.A criss-cross of happiness and coming of age
90s goth was bustling the old altantive stores especially in so CA i was born in 90 jan 5 marylon manison birth day😅 but i remember the paperback books magazine with the shirts and jewelry where you had to pay by postal i was 9 when i become a baby bat 🦇 in 1999 so at the end the of the era
Luis-kh- I actually wanted to see if Brian Hugh Warner AKA Marilyn Manson, born on Jan 5th- And yes, in 1969! So you guys are 21 years apart. Also- 1990 was my senior year in high school. Welcome to the channel.🎩
Those were the days of thriftstore outfits and super dark clubs mixed with industrial and goth music together. Also seems people who were goth then were alot more hostile and unfriendly than the 80s. The clothes and hair and makeup were amazing. But then the goth scene seemed to get swallowed up in grunge and techno and Seattle bands for a while.
Cosmicbluemama- Thrifting! Yes. How I love it still. The 90s for me was a bit as you mentioned 'hostile' as the club scene switched from all on the dance floor and get freaky to "Should you be here?" And they needed to know why. 80s we just got freaky and welcomed all. I like how you mentioned swallowed up in grunge and techno- agreed.
(1993) 'Is Absinthe legal, or not? Is it good? I heard it makes you go psycho.' Anyone who knew better was not kind. Kind words showed up maybe in 95', they didn't make Kindness yet.
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I am also 51 so I can definitely say that you described many aspects about the 90’s goth era very well. It’s amazing to think back and remember that it wasn’t as easy to go out shopping or online to buy anything we wanted or needed. 🦇
Janiebrossman ~ Good to hear from you always. I am glad you like the material mentioned. The 90s was alive and yes, agreed, wasn't it a different world going out and shopping off-line? 1990s I never thought record stores would become a thing of the past.
@janie and Professor M, very well said. And yes, I too thought record stores would never go by the wayside. I remember going to thrift stores to buy my Goth clothing, Black velvet and dark burgundy velvet tops, two pairs of black jeans, one thrift store black dress, and two pairs of black shoes to go with my [then] tiny wardrobe. Nowadays, thanks to all the goth "haul" fashion videos out there, I bought a few original Tripp nyc coats, red balls on fire coats, but really nothing newer except my makeup and nail polish. I remember back then having a terrible time even finding an eyeshadow close to black. And finding black lipstick was only during the Halloween season I recall. 🦇
@@EB1878 " And finding black lipstick was only during the Halloween season I recall" Totally- and it was this waxy cheap junky children toy quality that also came with green, white, black and red face paint Ha-Ha, yet to a true goth, that black waxy cheap junky children's toy quality Halloween make up was AWESOME!
@@EB1878 "I too thought record stores would never go by the wayside" ABSOULTELY, I never ever thought that record stores with come to an end. There is something magic about vinyl
A few things come to mind. Endless "I am more goth than you" discussions. There were very little readymade goth inspired fashions, you had to find and combine yourself, in trift shops, flea markets, grand parents wardrobe etc, it easily took years to get an outfit together. On internet my favorite was "the goth club list". I traveled a lot and visited maybe 25 clubs in 12 countries, very much thanks to that list. Very little social media, if you did not live a place where there was a scene you could easily miss it. I first found the subculture through internet in -94/95, even though I was into the music, fashion, books, cinema, architecture since early 80s. I just did not know about the goth subculture. There were much less music that was regarded as goth (just as all music genres have exploded the last decades). It was almost impossible for a bystander to tell part different subcultures: goths, heavy metal, bikers, bdsm/fetish, techno/industry music, new age satanists etc.
Northernway- Absolutely. Yes, agreed. The "more goth than you" deal, that was the part of the 90s that made me cringe. Tell me more about the Goth Club List!--- Also " It was almost impossible for a bystander to tell part different subcultures: goths, heavy metal, bikers, bdsm/fetish, techno/industry music" my reply is true, its like a blur to some. And we stand together looking at ways to say "Goth here" and "other genre there". Welcome to the channel!🎩
Thank you very much! The club list still exists as a snapshot from 2006, google “Gothic International Club Listing”. I used to come to the clubs just as they opened for the evening. Those that turn up then are usually the friendly and social core of the local scene. If you made an effort to dress up, you usually got a warm welcome. I have many fond memories from those visits.
😊Yes I can relate! It was harder to find the scene back then. Reminds me of when I found a Goth blog way back in 2002 during my sophomore year in highschool. I remember just looking up Goth and finding that blog. Which was written by a Goth girl in the U.K. and it had links to record labels and talked about the scene.
Having lived in a small town in the rural south here in America, that blog really was my way into the scene. I got into Darkwave and Ethereal Goth (Love Is Colder Than Death) thanks to that blog. Still going strong to this day at age thirty eight!❤🦇🦇
This video is actually really interesting. I’m 17 and have been really interested in 90s fashion and music for the past few years along with goth and other alternative fashion and music subcultures, and recently I have gotten really curious about the 90s goth scene in specific since it seemed like goth was a much bigger community back then and the variation of types of goth seemed much wider. Hearing that goth clubs existed in such a way that they did seems like so much fun, kinda sucks that they don’t exist anymore in most places, and I live in a large city too. Seems like a lot of alternative scenes are dying out. Even a lot of the punk venues in my city are shutting down which is crazy because of how big our punk scene was up until the 2000s. But thank you for the vid! Very informative!!
St3phdoesstuff - I love your ID. Very cool. You are correct. It was much bigger, then, it started to vanish. Now we are in a come back in 2020s. Thank you so much for your comment and Welcome to the channel! 🎩
40'ish Goth here. My tendency to, occasionally, blindly spin the algorithm wheel. Has brought to me this wonderfulful gem.
Oh the things I did to get a hold of a good, black lip colour. Often disappointed but certain that somewhere, out there... You know. Most often, by the time the night was done, I tended to look like i had been punched in the mouth. Australia just didnt seem to want to know, sad.
You were a delight to listen to and I look forward to more.
I bid thee well, sir.
Damiencross ~ I thank you, and welcome to the channel! 🎩
Our experiences seem similar. The "classic" goth music was the core of the scene. The secret hidden record stores. Walking through one bar to get to the back room, where the goth DJ played. Anne Rice was an inspiration to everyone who wore black and admired vampires. And, yes, the beginnings of Industrial, ie: Skinny Puppy were a thing. I remember the first few gothic outfits that today would be called "pastel". The scene was very exclusive. It took months to be accepted and climb the "food chain". And everyone had a snobby attitude. It was part of the style.
Chipcantley~ Beautifully said!
Ohh yesss, the '90's...I worked in a video rental kiosk inside a grocery/general merchandise store, and being black-clothed, "unusual" jewelry-wearing (think dragons, unicorns, red teardrop beads, swords and daggers, lightning bolts, cats, Egyptian symbols, etc.), I was constantly being asked if I performed sacrifices during the full moon.🙄
Your makeup looks great! Makeup was one thing I didn't do often, usually just some lipstick and skin just naturally pale. I do like red, black, and gray eyeshadow occasionally
Yvonnepeltier- Thank you so much, reading your story was fun. I smiled at ' if I performed sacrifices during the full moon.🙄" Hhahah- that fun!-- And thank you, I may do another make up tutorial in the future. Welcome to the channel!
Great video. I have so many memories of those bygone days. I will say that the 90s gatekeepers were the bane of my existence. I never felt “goth enough “ for so much of those years because I actually had a job and didn’t wear goth makeup on a daily basis. The club scene was amazing though. I am from LA and the goth scene there in the 90s was robust.
Now, at age 51, I’m one of the most goth people I know! Hahaha! I never grew out of it!
And now I have baby goth daughters who don’t have to prove how goth they are.
Sarawalker- Thank you. Honored. And yes, 90s gatekeepers-- oye. I never saw that in the 80s. We are both 51, as you saw the number appears over my head every time I mention my age. And that to me is the true sign of a Goth-Goth one who never grew out of it.
I am a year older than you and found the scene in DC at Trax. Like other clubs, Goth night was on Thursday, and we were relegated to the small dance floor in a huge gay club that took up half of a city block. I loved the old industrial music like Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Chemlab, Sister Machine Gun, and NIN. Way back then, we had to scout the baby internet via webrings for music information. 🖤 I lived in rural VA, so I didn't even have a Hot Topic to shop in, so I had to thrift and refashioned whatever black garments I could find. I still have a leather bustier bought from a BDSM store, and my uniform was a skirt or tiny shorts, fishnets, and my cheap knee-high combat boots. Now, at 52, I've graduated to corsets, net skirts, and gorgeous Frye knee-high boots.
Hello ~ Yes. I'm 1972. So 51 currently. There were tons of gay bars in Columbus Ohio when I lived there that had alternative nights. Front 242 definitely! NitzerEbb I first heard on 120 minutes on MTV in 1980s like at 2AM instead of sleeping for going to school I was up watching MTV alternative. Cheryl welcome to the channel 🎩
I plunged into nostalgia immediately.
You look just great in this outfit of yours! ⚰👍
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Blatro Ceneidrago- I will open my closets more and pull out a decade worth of Goth clothes in my future videos!! Stay tuned!
absolutely enthralling. i was born in 95 so i cant actually remember those times .. more the early 2000s ... 80s and 90s were the best
AnnaASMR, ~ love how you open with absolutely enthralling ❤ agreed.
I love your style Professor M. And your memories of the 90's Goth scene, spot on too. ❤🦇🥰
Unfortunately, where I live there wasn't a goth scene even going way back to 1998 when I became Goth. Goth makeup, as I recall, was mostly Manic Panic sold at Hot Topic, and through mail order catalogs like the now defunct Siren goth store in Canada, and Ipso-Facto in California (which is still going good). For me, I never heard "Poser" , but I'd have plenty of well-meaning religious people approach me in my baby bat days asking me if I found Jesus, etc. Back then, I was a young introvert. Nowadays I'm more personable and enjoy telling the younger baby bats what it was like for us "back in our days"... and some of the young Goths I spoke with can't comprehend there was ever a time when we couldn't go out in public wearing black clothes, pale makeup, unique jewelry less risk being called weirdos, freaks, etc.
Now this whole "gatekeeper" mentality I'm confused by as I see it so often in the goth comment sections, I see younger Goths on here trying to explain it, but thankfully I never tell people what's Goth and what isn't. In my own observation, if a person is happy with their attire and call it Goth, that's awesome. I think the 90's had its fair share of social unacceptable views towards Goths in general, at least where I'm at anyway it did.
And surprisingly Professor M, I ran into a lady (my age) and worked at a Halloween store that was 2nd year running in our tiny mall. She and I got to talking during a slow day. I need to clarify I'm just a regular customer, and the lady distinctly remembered me from many years ago shopping in our mall. I vaguely remembered her until she mentioned "Gadzooks", a has-been, never could succeed fashion store that went bankrupt by the early 2000's. She and I gave the younger Goths working at the Halloween store some hilarious times of how we looked years ago (not much changed for her nor I). We still look the same, just older. 😊 By doing so, I made several new friends, but alas there's still that one thing my town lacks, a local Goth scene. When the Halloween store closed for the season, I kept in contact with the lady that's my age. The other Goths I met I see only occasionally around.
The only snide remark I received recently (after Halloween) was when I ran to the grocery store in my usual Goth finery wearing a black velvet damask top hat I added a skeleton hand hair clip to hold the hat veil in back, so it does garner attention both good and not so good.
Right as I pass down an aisle, one older woman whispers loud enough to her friend so I could hear, "Doesn't she realize Halloween is over?" She half-laughs, her friend replies, "We must be living in the Matrix. " I say nothing and proceed about my business. It wasn't as harsh a comment like I'd have received years ago, but it brought, Jillian Venter's book to my mind, Gothic Charm School, a book you recommend in one of your other videos. But when it's late and you've been on the go on your only day off, rather than stoop to their level of immaturity, I blew them off and just rolled my eyes. I enjoyed this video. Brought back the times I'd hang out at the local coffee gallery (now defunct). I'd sit in a candlelit table enjoying either a grave digger coffee with three shots of espresso and piled high with Readi-whip, or other times enjoyed an Italian cream soda and listen to open mic night. Since I was the only Goth there I stood out like a sore thumb, but was treated good. No discrimination nor nothing. For me, my 90's Goth times were exciting yet restricted since I was in my late teens back then. I think I feel a better sense of liberation now as an elder Goth since the Goth subculture is commonplace (or becoming more accessible) with stores catering to wide arrays of fashion, makeup, etc. 🦇🧛♀️😊
EB- This was the nicest comment. A full story, and I joke you not I could make another video based just on the info you left above. Very Happy to read this !!🖤🦇🎩
@gothicallyyoursprofessorm.7222 Thank you Professor M for your feedback and kind response. ❤🥰 always a true pleasure to inspire those I meet. 😊
Those times for me in the late 90's were unique, a little lonely since there was never a Goth scene in my area that I was ever aware of. But all in all, it was still exciting since dial up internet was commonplace entertainment after work in the evenings and chat rooms were buzzing with people from all over on any given night. I look back and still sense the fun I had, the daring youth I was striving to be unique, to be true to myself, to be dark and somewhat mysterious. And all because I was younger back then and getting ready to fly from the belfry to strike out on my own. (Instead of flying from the parents bird's nest I refer to it as bats in the belfry since I was then a baby bat). 😅
I'll certainly look forward to watching your newest video as I'm happy that my story was inspiring to you. ❤🦇
I always enjoy reading comments on your channel from other Goths (including you). It helps to hear from other Goths young and older recount their stories, their experiences, feelings, what the societal views were like from their point of view compared to nowadays, etc.
- EB (a.k.a. "The Victrola Lady" ), who still hasn't found her Goth name yet.🤷♀️
I’ve started delving into Edwardian goth which seems to have found a resurgence these days I thought it was a more modern thing but now I know it’s been a thing since the 90s
Sir Gothington ~ good to hear from you! Yes, the Edwardian look has a resurgence in the 90s. One hat that I wear is definitely a low flat top Edwardian style. I check out all your posts!
Great video, I love these kinds of nostalgic trips! The goth subculture is the one closest to my heart. A pity I picked it up first when I was 32, in the the mid 90s. I have always been curious and fascinated by subcultures and by people inside them. I might not always share the mindset but I want to understand them. Before goth, my journey from late 70s until included peeks into such diverging groups as green environmentalists, punk, urban culture vultures, tech nerds (ham radio, computers), foodies, rock climbers, winter trekking, music (classic, mainstream, alternative), new age, fetish, extreme religious sects, conspiracy theories, science nerds. But goth (in the mid 90s) really spoke to me. For the first time I did not feel like someone "under cover", that had a non-compatible other life as well. Guess I was very lucky that got introduced to including people, who accepted that people came from very different places in life. Not the standard 90s horror story meeting arrogant elite goths that disdained newbies. I loved the cultural curiosity that acted as a backdrop for goths. Yes, classic music was great, but so was postpunk and industrial. You were very much free to find your own look, colours were ok, as long as the end result stood out as "goth enough". As mentioned trad goth and victorian dominated, but there were plenty of others as well. A subculture that also include literature, film, architecture, even food and drinks, added several gold stars from me. Most subcultures at that time were not as broadminded, and I feel I can say that from real experience. Black lipstick - so true. I hunted down a high quality one for my partner. It took more than a year, and several very questionable samples leading there.
Greetings, Professor! The 90s, wow! That was quite a time for me, too. I was enured in Baroque & classical music, & giving concerts, though.
Oh & I love rotary telephones. I have one even now, but I want a candlestick telephone.
By the way, I have a cape like that, too!
I have a couple of questions/video ideas if i may?
Could you go more in-depth on Vampire Goth style & what singles it out as different?
Also, could you talk more about Goth fragrances, what people wore then, what people wear now?
Finally, i love your makeup tutorials, but could you do a video about very subtle ways to add a touch of makeup for daily wear for this shy little vampire?
Yes I can! To all the above! Stay tuned.
@@gothicallyyoursprofessorm.7222 I shall indeed, & look forward to it.
I would sneak Army store palm lights, I'd switch to Red mode to move around without breaking my leg. The price of authenticity! Lordy Trads used to rate you Baby Bats, coming along, or Poseurs. It was a real pain back then in your learning phase. If you hadn't seen opening night in France, some were snorting still. I only knew the Cure, I thought 'Dead of Alive' was goth, Echo and The Bunnymen, maybe this girl in England, Susie or something? :)
Antdevamp- I do remember Echo and the Bunnymen!!
Just found your channel. I’m a Goth that will change up my fashion and sometimes even cosplay as “normal” just for fun. I love all this information you’re giving about a time where I was too little to remember and was not a part of but I feel like 17:08 you can’t really talk about that in this day and age because the Goth culture nowadays is too sensitive and they hate being labeled because that’s not what real Goths do. I think it’s important for labels to exist because for people just getting into it or learning about the scene, how else are they supposed to learn if you’re throwing all of that out the window?
Hope to see more from you, my friend 🦇
Hello RichLunaMusic- Sorry for the late late reply, we are in the middle of exams week at college. A new video is coming out soon. Thank you for a great comment! And I loved the last sentence " how else are they supposed to learn if you’re throwing all of that out the window?" perfectly and well said!!! Welcome to the channel!
if you spent time in Ohio during the 90s, then you must know of the band Lestat. legendary darkwave band from Ohio, and one of my absolute favorites.
They were from Cleveland. I have been to all parts of Ohio. Cleveland brings back memories. I am so enjoying you enjoying my past videos.
Thanks for sharing those memories.
It was intresting to hear them...
And I had lots of fun during the 80s too with the colors. Cause I am little older.
I do remember have to order things from paper magazines. And then have to wait for the things to arrive by mail.
90s was fun and in our clubs it was often a mix of goth and industrial.
Stay safe and weird Professor M 🦇🖤🖤🖤🖤🦇
Sanniz~You and I are both 80s generation, and the 90s was the second part of our life. I'm more 80s loving than 90s because of less adult things I had to get involved with. Life was simpler ❤ And interestingly enough paper catalogs were fun^^
Sounds like you have some wonderful memories from that time :) I came in around 98 so I missed most of that time. I never personally met any Goths or was around them. There were mall goths and I had my son, but that was all; so it was pretty lonely and still is for me. I live in a different state now, but I still have never met any Goths. I guess they are mainly in the larger cities. Great to see you again :)
Moonflowerfaire~ hello 🌙 🌼 always good to hear from you. The 90s were my teen to pre adult years so it's such an interesting time.A criss-cross of happiness and coming of age
90s goth was bustling the old altantive stores especially in so CA i was born in 90 jan 5 marylon manison birth day😅 but i remember the paperback books magazine with the shirts and jewelry where you had to pay by postal i was 9 when i become a baby bat 🦇 in 1999 so at the end the of the era
Luis-kh- I actually wanted to see if Brian Hugh Warner AKA Marilyn Manson, born on Jan 5th- And yes, in 1969! So you guys are 21 years apart. Also- 1990 was my senior year in high school. Welcome to the channel.🎩
Those were the days of thriftstore outfits and super dark clubs mixed with industrial and goth music together. Also seems people who were goth then were alot more hostile and unfriendly than the 80s. The clothes and hair and makeup were amazing. But then the goth scene seemed to get swallowed up in grunge and techno and Seattle bands for a while.
Cosmicbluemama- Thrifting! Yes. How I love it still. The 90s for me was a bit as you mentioned 'hostile' as the club scene switched from all on the dance floor and get freaky to "Should you be here?" And they needed to know why. 80s we just got freaky and welcomed all. I like how you mentioned swallowed up in grunge and techno- agreed.
Yay! The professor is back.
Samuelpenn~hello yes, I'm back, new episodes are coming^^
(1993) 'Is Absinthe legal, or not? Is it good? I heard it makes you go psycho.'
Anyone who knew better was not kind. Kind words showed up maybe in 95', they didn't make Kindness yet.
Antdevamp, yes Absinthe is now legal. And no, it doesnt make one psycho, it does create a 'whoosh' effect while drinking it.
@@gothicallyyoursprofessorm.7222 Sorry, that was my convo from 1993, it's my only drink now.