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New BUILD! Brand New Defender HSE P400 off-road on Wheeler Lake! Equipped with Off Road Package, Rear Locker, 33x12.5r18 Toyo Open Country MT's - see the leap in capability! Amazing drone footage on one of Colorado's prettiest trails.
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Land Rover Denver
Lucky8 Offroad
Huge shout out to @trevyn_newpher for the amazing video! Check him out at:
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Lucky8 Offroad 2” Lift
TuffAnt 18” Wheels
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Does it have the rear difflock?
Maurice Wanink the original Defender we ran did not have Off Road Pack or rear locker. By comparison, this White HSE does. The combination of locker, rim size, and tire choice are exceptional on this unit!
@@cotrails8356 do you guys know if you ordered the basic defender 2 without the offroad package, can you go back and add things later? Like can I have the dealer put the diff lock on mine even though I didn't ordered it with it?!
Aaron Adkins we cannot add at the dealership at this time. Not sure if there is an aftermarket option...
Check out his other vids. Best vids out there if you really want to know what the it can do offroad. Most of the other vids are Starbucks cruising auto journalists who have never been offroad and are amazed that a vehicle can go through some muddy puddles. So they have no base of comparison. Steve’s vids with TFL in particular are excellent. Now Steve- need you to do that comparo with the old Defender and Gladiator with this veh on that same trail again!! Just don’t let Roman drive the Landy- man he’s a terrible offroad driver. Still love him tho.
Just picked up mine today… thanks for showing your mods!!!
Enjoy!!! Great vehicle and extremely capable!
wonderful
Superb! Amazing how well it grips, day and night with those 18s and 33 MTs
That is awesome! Looks quite capable to me...hopefully the reliability will shut the critics up over time.
First vidow we ran one without locker with 20" rims and KO2's. This is a technical trail and the Defender was spot on all day! Really happy with how it did on trail!
Well said
Once you've bought one and taken that risk on, yourself, let me know.
@@cotrails8356 do you think 18’s with no locker will better tires will go anywhere the locker model would ?
@@1224tms on regular trails, yes. On rock crawling/ deep mud or ruts you need the rear locker. The 18’s are substantially better choice for hardcore wheeling. Building a 110 right now with 35’s and a 4” lift. Should be done in next week or so!
Super nice of you to share these videos and your experience.
You have the best shots and video for defender off-road
So cool to see a video on this beautiful trail. My cabin is right there in Placer Valley. Five miles from Montgomery Reservoir. The lake is the best part about this trail. It is so beautifu once you pull over the last bit of rocky trail you just see the cleanest waters super clear water to where you can see the fish just swimming to the top.
Nice Landy offroad broo...
Thank you. We’re running 37’s on our latest two builds: Big Barry and KONG
Great stuff, nice tires.
Great Video! Excellent camera work and gals to see these new defenders doing what they do.
Hell yes!
Mama needs a new whip!
HOLY FUCK THAT RIDE IS BAD ASSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent video. I have over 12K miles on my P400, with 1500 of those miles in Moab and Colorado Rockies. I concur that the 18" wheels and 33" KM3 tires, and rear locker are a must. I also have 1" lift rods and rock sliders. Poughkeepsie Gulch, Imogene, & Mineral Creek among others confirmed the need for the sliders. You managed without on Wheeler - well done!
Nice! Sliders certainly allow you to be a bit more aggressive... have them on our build now!
@@cotrails8356 I’ve been looking to add rock sliders. Do you know who makes them for the new defender? My local dealership says they isn’t anywhere to attach them.
@@brianbock7395 lucky 8 offroad. Based in NY
Love the new build!
Thank you! We do too. Waiting on parts for our next bigger and badder build!
Awesome stuff. Car is so impressive
Damn thats a tough trail dry. I bet it was a real booger wet! Sweet rig
Another great video. Really loving this content on the new Defender. 👍👍
Thank you! More to come. Rear locker plus tire/ rim choices were exceptional on this build
CO TRAILS Thanks Steve. #aboveandbeyond.
@@cotrails8356 I can't find on the build tool where to select the rear locker. Is it available on SE, HSE, and X?
Sweet vid Steve. Glad to see you finally got one properly spec’d with the locking rear diff. 🤘 Told you that thing would be a machine with it. My LR4 with locking rear goes anywhere. And the Defender has an even better crawl ratio. Will have some mods to my LR4 next trip- ARB bumper and winch and 18s with Cooper ST Maxx tires. Can’t wait. Hope to see some new Defenders modified out there on the trail soon. Btw- drone footage is a great add. Keep on having fun and keep the vids coming!!!
DADventureTV thank you!!! You’ll love the Coopers... super sticky! We’re adding Luck8 Offroad sliders this week and hope to be back filming late next week! Trevyn_newpher is the man with the killer drone!
Plan to build a 2 door this winter with 35’s for a monumental trail run in the spring!
Does Land Rover sell all the mods or some aftermarket company
I developed the JLR ATPC system on those trails.
Süper good nice thanks 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷👍✋
Extra difficult in the rain. Surfaces are all wet. Nice video, looks great.
Thank you. Looking forward to Our D90 build on 35’s!
You have the best stateside new Defender off-road videos on TH-cam! It's been a while though. I hope you start posting more!!
Building a 110 on 4” lift with 35’s as we speak and working on 37’s still. Major changes needed to get that done but I feel it’s coming. The new 110 should be done in next week or so. Sorry no videos, lost both our mothers in October so we were out of pocket for a while. Be back this spring summer in full force👍
Have been struggling with the next move from my trusty Jeep Wrangler JK MW3 but this has opened my eyes. I know this trail really well, there are a couple of difficult obstacles and this Defender made it through even in the wet - I'm impressed. I don't want to give up too much off-road capability but we need to find something... well, a little more utilitarian-lux. Also, I'd like better towing capability, a mediocre Wrangler rated at 3,500lbs goes up to 8,200lbs with the Defender - that's Airstream territory. This could be it. Off to check one out with the offroad package of course. Thank you for making this video series, miss Wheeler Lake just 20 miles or so from my old house near Breckenridge. Have fun, be safe.
Pulls our 7800 lb 25’ Wakesetter up the pass at 80 mph like it isn’t even there! Wrangler has more articulation but this very capable for 95% of those that will even put it on dirt. It closes everything else out of the water in power and on road performance/ manners.
@@cotrails8356 Just tested one and it's awesome. Love the design, especially the interior. P400 engine is strong even for a heavy vehicle like this. Only pausing because there are few available with the rear differential lockers (off-road package) and confusion on the configurator whether the tow package includes it (I believe not). My only other concern, it looks like the winch option was an afterthought which is surprising for the brand. Process to add that, cutting panels etc looks horrific. Flawed diamond?
Ran the toyo mt last set, can't say anything bad about them other than they are heavy. But they ran smooth and quiet for an mt and tough. I went with nokian rockproofs this time around and they've been solid as well. A little lighter but hard to beat the toyos looks like a nice trail and that land rover didnt break down not sure I believe it lol
Toyo’s are softer and much stickier on the rocks...
By any chance could you share your experience on the highway with the Toyo Open Country MT's? Was it loud at 70ish mph?
Nice drone shots and good content. You got a new subscriber.💯
Thanks you. Hoping to get one more filmed run in before snow sets in
Fantastic test and video! I've been looking at this kind of challenge for a new Defender and it is spot on :) What's the tire pressure used with Toyo? Are you gonna push it through the deep snow? Cheers!
Thank you! We will be running in snow here in the Rockies, but not in the trails. Most of them are closed or snowed in during the winter.
Are you guys able to make a comparison between the defender you were using before and this one? That'd be great!
Snow is coming here in Colorado tomorrow, so our window is closing quickly for more shoots. This white HSE is set up right for rocks and more difficult trails. The Silver First Edition did not have a locker and we were handicapped by the 20” wheels. I would definitely order Off Road Pack, Advances Off Road Capability Pack. Plus, the conversion to 18” rims was a major leap in capability for advanced very rough trails.
Those rims look like tuff Ant rims? Nice 👍
Correct!
Great Video
2 Questions
1. Is this the electronic rear diff locker
2. Was that offered in a First Edition
I have a First edition with some (lots) issues and might have an opportunity to trade it for a new SE
I'd love to meet one day. I have a 2004 treg with lockers that I'm lifting 4" with 37's at some point
Sounds great!
1. Is it possible to fix any 18" wheels or only tuffant ?
2. Is it possible to completely switch off the traction control/lockers ?
3. Is there a solution where the air suspensions don't lower after a specific speed ?
Thanks for sharing, truely amazing and appreciated
Offset and design if the TuffAnt wheels is perfect. We have attempted some other rims and they will not work. You must do a rear calipers swap to get 18” on the P400’s (Lucky8 Offroad has the kit).
You can configure locker/ center diff manually with Terrain Response 2 and Off Road Package.
Suspension will raise to normal height when you reach a specific speed and no way to override that. Aftermarket may a solution but I’m not aware of one.
@@cotrails8356 @Khalid Alhammadi there is a solution for the LR3/4 called xlifter. maybe it'll naturally work on the new defender or they'll do a new one for the new discovery. Makes sleeping in it more comfortable if the spot is not level as you can manually adjust each corner and keep it that way. Another one is called Easy lift.
I'm wondering what you feel about the all fabric seats vs. the mixed leather and fabric. Whats your preference?
The all fabric holds trail dust. I prefer the leather for easier clean up...
@@cotrails8356 thank you!
A few questions about your mods:
1. Does the use of smaller calibers on the brakes to fit the 18s affect towing capacity?
2. Any trimming required for the 33s?
3. Does the mod to the brakes or larger tires affect warranty?
4. Did you have to re-gear for the larger tires?
5. Does the package that gives you the locking rear diff or one of the other offroad packages also give you rock crawl mode? Or is rock crawl standard even without any of the offroad packages?
6. Articulation looked better. Always difficult to tell such a thing from a vid, but it looked that way. Could that be because this one has rock crawl mode and other one didn’t? On my LR4 when describing rock crawl mode it says that it adjusts the air suspension to provide better articulation which is why I ask.
DADventureTV can’t say for sure how the smaller calipers effect trailer towing. Same size pads though.
Have to trim back edge of wheel opening for the 33’s - cannot keep the factory mid guards. Planning to get 35’s on a 2 door over the winter
Yes, both brakes and tires effect the warranty. Judgement call by the dealer. When in doubt, don’t
No re-gearing. The P400 is a rock star off the line, towing, and pulling up the mountain. Almost 400hp, MHEV, AND turbo. Awesome power plant!!!!!!!
DADventureTV terrain response 2 has rock crawl mode. It’s not programmed how we prefer, so we dialed it better on our own for what we run. Articulation better as we only lifted to full Height if needed to clear something. Also running the 18’s is a million times better with 15psi and a great compound/ tread!!!
CO TRAILS ah. Makes sense. Nice thing about regular offroad height is that it still leaves plenty of sus for articulation. I definitely like the ability to program the traction control yourself- a very nice added feature compared to my LR4. Still wish they just had a button or switch to allow you to simply lock the rear diff when you want with no other changes. But maybe down the road they’ll add that. Look forward to the vids on the 2 door mods. Should be a beast offroad.
Lucky 8 has 1" and 2" lift rods that will accommodate 33" tires. I hauled 6000 lbs to and fro, up and over the Rockies in September, a 4000 mile roundtrip from Virginia. The vehicle had no issues hauling and braking. Justin at Lucky 8 has 2" lift rods and 35" tires. Wild.
Excellent video as always.
Definitely 18" wheels are a must.
Did you install the 2" lift kit on this one as well?
Yes 2” Lucky8 Off Road lift and 33x12.5r18 Open Country MT’s on TuffAnt wheels
@@cotrails8356 any trimming needed? Did you need to to install the offset tire carrier with the oversized tire? Would these mods void factory warranty?
@@seanskinner386 yes. Have to relocate the front coolers and trim the front bumper. Depends on tire choice and rims as to how much and where…
How did u fit the 18" wheels? HSE & SE comes with big calipers, please share info 😁
Downsized rear calipers with a kit from Lucky8 Offroad👍🏽
Do these modifications affect Landrover’s warranty?
@@redcanyonl6636 subjective to the dealer. If the parts cause failure to a warranties part it would not be covered by the manufacturer.
Again, great video. You really do well to show the capability of the New Defender. I will have to see if these wheels are available in Australia. I am very interested in the MaxTracks mounting system on the genuine roof rack. Could I some info about it and how it was mounted? You could even do a video on that if you like.
The wheels are from Tuff Ant in Australia. Contact Lucky8 Off Road for info on the roof rack.
Carson Gore Cool thanks Mate.
Lucky8 Offroad can also help with the attachments. The rack is factory Land Rover👍🏽
hi, great defender! thanks for the video! is with this tire size any trimming in the wheel arches necesarry?
many greeting form tyrol!
Need to swap the rear brake calipers to accommodate the 18" rims, the front tires need trimming in the wheel opening at the lower bumper cover and remove front mud guards if you have them in order to clear
@@cotrails8356 thank you very much for the info!!
I saw a video on TFL with the Defender, was that you ?
Yes. That was our first build with 20’s, no rear locker and crummy KO2’s👍🏽
Luck is with the traction control and suffers a lot with the tests. I have seen many defects, it hangs fast, it always has the wheels floating. The old Defender has much more axle travel, I have a Defender with a triple differential lock, it makes the tests much easier without stressing so much.
Works best with more wheel slip, more throttle response and traction control turned off. Solid axles articulate better for sure. The New Defender excels on road especially towing 8200 lbs...
All you had to say was 18s, and I liked this video! 😁
Soooooooo much better! Sounds like LR May have a running change in MY21 to offer the 18’s on a P400 🤞🏼
What did you use to tie down your gear on the roofrack??
Got everything from Lucky8 Off Road 👍🏽
wanna see if it’s possible to squeeze in 16” rims on the defender
Definitely won’t be able to. The 18’s only clear with a rear calipers change and barely (I mean BARELY)... likely Rover will offer the 18’s on the P400’s sometime in the ‘21 MY
Hey didn't you talk about a 37inch meaty tyre upgrade and 4 inch lift which you were supposed to be doing the following winter ?
Building a 110 on 4” lift with 35’s as we speak and working on 37’s still. Major changes needed to get that done but I feel it’s coming. The new 110 should be done in next week or so. Sorry no videos, lost both our mothers in October so we were out of pocket for a while. Be back this spring summer in full force
@@cotrails8356 I am sorry for your loss! Excited about your new videos!Keep it up !👍
@@shankarwain4289 thank you! Our 4" lift D110 is almost done with 35x12.5r18's!!! Hope to start shooting very soon!
I'm on a waiting list for that same model. I'm going to get the 19 inch wheels because I wanted to do some moderate off-roading, are you able to do the 18 inch wheels without modifying anything?
I have inbound units available. We are a very large Rover Dealer in Denver, CO
You must change the rear calipers to fit 18’s onto a P400. Lucky8 Offroad offers the kit.
@@cotrails8356 Justin at Lucky 8 has a lot of great gear for your Defender. My P400 spent 3 days in his shop prior to heading to Utah & Colorado in September. Wish I had time to stop by the dealership to say hello. Next year?
@@robertsteele8875 absolutely! Would love to see your build!!!
@@cotrails8356 Does that do anything to the warranty?
Was the trail super super Rocky from the water erosion?
It is a rocky field from that point on. The last 1/2 mile is bowling ball sized rocks and referred to as bowing ball hill
I drove by the Land Rover dealership in Marin County last month, there were no Defenders there.
Mostly sold out Nationwide. We have some units still available inbound👍
@@cotrails8356 good to know
Hi is this defender equipped with the rear locker?
Yes. All factory off road options were ordered on Big Bertha👍
Any issues with the brake by wire?
I have about 5k miles logged so far in Defenders and haven’t seen or felt any issues with that. The brakes are exceptional. Pulled out 7800 lb boat out of the water last week and the towing capability was so good I didn’t even notice the boat was there
Any more from the new build? 🙂
Hope to soon! We had some family issues come up out of state that has kept us off trail. 👍
What month of the year was recorded?
Two weekends ago. August 29th, 2020
Hey I have the defender x as well. Mine came with 22. I been trying to figure out the best off road set up. I just got the ats 4s all terrain. But want something much more capable. What is the exact wheel size u have on the x? And do I need to do the lift to put that size tire on ?
Were running 18” Tuff Ants. You have to downsize the rear calipers for them to fit
We prefer Toyo Open Country MT’s or Cooper SST Pros
33x12.5r18
Allows you to air down to 15 psi without beadlocks. Big rims are painful on the rocks.
I’m in a ‘21 murdered out 110 X now with 22’s and same tires. Looks awesome for street👍👍👍. We had to put spacers on and trim front bumper and shield to fit the factory rims with the Toyos on 22’s
@@cotrails8356 thanks a ton man.... The 4s run pretty awesome ... I own a couple homes in mountains...and let me tell I the snow is serious.... What size calipers did u need to buy?
@@christopheranthony9857 Lucky8 Off Road has a kit to downsize rear calipers. Same pad size. It removes the large bump cast into the original caliper that won’t allow the 18’s to fit. Both the tires above are good in powder or packed powder but suck on hard pack snow
Yo thanks a lot for the help....I really appreciate it ....
@@christopheranthony9857 Lucky 8 Off Road sells the rear caliper kit
I'm going to order one these, I'm ignorant of the difference between Configurable Terrain Response and the Terrain Response 2 and Off Road Package.
Can you tell me about CTR and is it value added? Thanks p.s. You mentioned rear locker....is that in a pack or dealer installed? It must be needed because you added it, right?
👍🏽If you aren’t getting the X Model- Order the Off Road Pack plus Advanced Off-Road Capability Pack to get Terrain Response 2 and rear locker.
Why not just start with the P300 which has 18” wheels as standard so only a tire change would be required? It’s not as powerful as the P400 but still has roughly 300HP, which is very competitive with the Wrangler Rubicon with the 2.0L engine.
Not enough power for us at high altitude in the rocks with big tires. We also tow a 7800 lb boat up the pass to Lake Powell and like being able to fly up the hill…
So, do you have the original brakes? My understanding was that the 20 inch wheels were necessary to fit large enough brakes to manage the towing capacity.
We downsized the rear calipers for the trail plus TuffAnt 18” wheels. All from Lucky8 Offroad.
Well land rover do offer 18 inch wheels so it should have been ok to swap the 20s to 18s
OK, thanks for the replies. I forgot that 18 inch steel wheels were an option.
Gordon Wedman the P400 only goes down to 19” from the factory currently... hopefully a running change to 18” option in the 2021’s
That flipping chicken calipers too large in the rear on a P400 so you have to convert the rear calipers
Good to see a proper off-road test and a set of muddies on one.
Did that have springs and not air suspension considering you had a lucky8 2"lift?
Thanks for sharing
2” lift from Lucky8 Off Road... can’t wait to stuff 35’s under our D90 next spring!!!
@@cotrails8356 now that's something I'd like to see. You may have issues with onboard safety
@@michaelnugara1 nah. It’s all good we run 37’s and 40’s on our other stuff. 35’s fit, just need a little TLC to make it happen. Tire size is only thing holding this vehicle back right now...
@@cotrails8356 Justin @ Lucky 8 is running 35" tires with 2" lift rods. I opted for 1" lift rods and 33" tires as I do a lot of hauling. I have two significant hauls in the past couple months with over 6000 lbs behind my P400. Effortless, though the gas mileage plummets to about 9 MPH fully laden.
Is that the 4 cyl engine?
P400 3L 6
Reliable but Super $$$... I spied on one near me.....for what I want.....to TRADE in my JEEP??? Expensive....$100K....what about Service???? Repairs???? WOW
Doug Demuro got a 7 year 100K warranty ... what more can you ask for
Make a new video
Agreed! Will be back on the trails this spring in our D90 build and then a 392 Rubicon later this summer
All sponsored vehicles and drivers every time. I wanna see a owner who spent their own money on this vehicle test it out in these conditions and give feedback. not the sales reps with demo cars!
These videos feel like the vacuum guy coming to your house to show and tell why you need one.
We wheel our 4 Jeeps, ‘19 4Runner, and theses Defenders. 35+ days of wheeling and counting this season, but snow is on the way.
Oh, and I’m not a salesman.