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Some were Presbyterian, some were church or Ireland or or different nonconformist other were enlightenment thinkers and religion wasn't a big part of their identity. The reasons for protestants joining were varied, The penal laws also affected non-conformist and the split between Covenanters and non-Covenanters let to more radical factions within Presbyterianism, when these laws improved for non conformists support for revolt died down. Also many old landowner preferred having the Irish parliament with Anglo-Irish landowners rather then direct rule favoured by newer industrialist. This is a different kind of nationalism as Yeast coined as "romantic" nationalism, and also the initial ideal to have a secular state by both socialist and old school liberals, was overtaken by those that wanted a state religion (social conservatives), a tide that only recently been reversed in the South. Obviously religion plays a part because it was weaponized for loyalty, and to that is the history, and also both side established a state religion, even if the non-conformist argue on if they can bring into line with the presbytery or simply want to coexist. Quakers kind of get forgotten about too. Religious freedom for me but not for ye, was basically what happened when some of these group went to America. The Industrialisation of the north was largely why unionism survived and why it is dying. The majority are around 2% more catholic whether the majority are nationalist remains to be seen the largest party in the assembly is nationalist but the biggest block is not, with MPs is similar. Also where you place Alliance matters, many Irish nationalist would consider Alliance with its root in progressive unionism more toward the status quo albeit progressive or would be suspicious of them. It is likely going towards nationalism or more likely a more progressive republicanism like in the south. There is zero interest in one party state or a politburo in the south, even if some fringe groups in the north would have you believe this how it will roll. There is appetite for left wing parties but int he context of a multi-party state, and the south is broadly laissez-faire on the local level. I'm a secular republican, I will never be an etho-nationalist.

Patty as a word is practically unknown in Ireland. Some might use it to describe the piece of squashed meat in a burger, but that's about it

@@nigelmchugh5541 I was at school and worked with girls/women named Patricia who were usually called Pat or Patty. Not so much nowadays as there aren’t that many Patricias around anyway.

@Granuaile1. Loved the use of ‘diminutive’ ! I agree with you. #2. That seems similar to things I’ve heard in the U.S. Very interesting. #3. That has been pointed out to us👍. We should have explained that a little better 😀 Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation!!

@@nigelmchugh5541 Thanks for sharing that with us! It’s one of those terms we just grew up with. If it’s shaped like a patty, it seems like people will call it a patty no matter what is😂 Thanks again!

@@Granuaile1 Same here. Sometimes used as middle name to honor a loved one.

@donavanfoto3263. We plan to use some of the public transport in Dublin this trip 😀 We really enjoyed walking in Dublin though. Haven’t looked up LUAS yet I’m going to check that out. Thanks! The whole history of Ireland still remains a tough subject for a lot of people. We tried to listen more than talk during those conversations. Thanks again for watching and commenting 😀👍

@@thissecondhalfadventure : The LUAS are light rail electric trains (trollies) that will take you several places in and out of town. In the Jarvis section of downtown is the National Leprechaun Museum. It is directly across from the LUAS. Howth has a nice Seaside view. Donnybrook is accessible by bus and has RTE (Irish version of BBC). I lived there in 1978 for two months.

@TheWanderingIrishman. Good to hear from you! As always, we learn more from comments than we do from some of our research 👍 Thank you for commenting. History has produced some bad actions!

​@@thissecondhalfadventurethat was lovely 🌹... God bless 💚

In reality religion absolutely played a part. Northern Ireland was set up in 1920 and saw itself as a Protestant state for Protestant people. Meanwhile, the Irish State had a constitution acknowledging a special role for the Catholic church. These two facts were crucial to the history of the troubles. Ask anyone from Northern Ireland, and they are likely to tell you they were marked out as one or the other as soon as they put on a school uniform. It is interesting to speculate what would have happened if the planters had been the same religion as the natives, gone to the same schools and churches, Things would have developed very differently. Differences could have vanished as they did in Britain between the Danes and the English when the Danish settlers adopted Christianity.

@jennifernewman240. Thanks for watching and thank you for your question! We both learned to drive manual transmission cars at an early age. All we’ve driven in the past number of years have been automatic transmissions. We decided it was better to spend more money for the automatic. Nothing new to learn about driving the car. You have more time to get comfortable driving on the opposite side of the car and the opposite side of the road. 😀 Wishing you the best on your trip! Let us know how your trip goes if you get a chance! Appreciate your support 😀👍✌!

@bridkavanagh8894. Thanks for watching and commenting! Kilkenny is definitely on our agenda 😀. I think I read about the “Medieval Mile” . We’re excited to check out Kilkenny 👍 Thanks for recommending it.

@babsbee4081. Your comment gave us a big smile. Very glad you watched the video and shared that story 😀 We’re both from small towns originally and Bushmills made us feel very comfortable. Who knows, maybe we talked with a member of your family 😀.

@seamusobyrne7845. Thank you Seamus! We enjoy people with a good sense of humor 😀. We’re very excited to see the southern counties of the Republic of Ireland 👍😀🇺🇸🇮🇪 Thanks again for watching and commenting!

@martinwilliams1784. Thank you for watching from England!! Great suggestion! We even did that (go to the post office) in a small town in North Carolina U.S. They gave us the name of a great breakfast spot and how to get there 😀 We appreciate your support Martin👍✌

@samvimes117. Thanks for watching. You know, even as a kid, we were always told never cross anyone’s fences. As kids, we sometimes did it anyway 😀 Nowadays, in the U.S. , you should probably ask permission rather than assume. As you said, be respectful 👍 Glad you joined the conversation 👍😀✌

@kathleenlucas1334. Thank you! Back to the “You don’t know …” Just a silly thing happened in a small village. We needed gas. Pulled up to the pump that had no indication of how to pay. Went into the store to prepay and the man said “ I can’t charge you until you pump the petrol”. Surprised me because I haven’t seen that in 10 years😂 Your comment about ‘ chickens laying’ made us laugh 😀 I would be ‘lying’ (to myself) if I didn’t acknowledge that. Well done. All the best to you!

@rutube46. Thank you very much for watching and commenting! We love all of your suggestions! We’ve been discussing day trips and stops between accommodations. You have definitely added some great options 😀 Question: Mountshannon or Terryglass? We may not have time to drive around Lough Derg. Love fish and chips, sausages and yes, we will get a 99 😀 The ice cream van sounds like where we live. Thanks for that suggestion. Really appreciate your support!

@@thissecondhalfadventure oh it's very exciting planning a trip. So I would pick Mountshannon, because my heart loves the place. My mother was rared there, so we spent many a summer visiting our nana. It has changed over the years, many new places to visit. A maze and beautiful park next to my mother's old house, it was a field with cows when I was a child. The harbour is beautiful and you can grab a coffee down there too. There is a lovely loop walk you can do from the main street turn right down to harbour by the hotel, then carry on past harbour or walk all the jettys and look at the boats, then keep going and turn right at end of road, pass a historical monument (I can't remember who it is! I'd have to ask my mam!) keep right and you will walk back to the main street and pass some lovely old cottages. There was a pub on the main St called Keanes, a shop /pub, I wonder if it is still there, but lovely family ran that pub, again I'd have to check if it still open. An old petrol pump outside it. Lots of places to stay there too. Terryglass is beautiful but Mountshannon wins for me. Killaloe/ballina also fab if you going that direction, or other direction portumna a lovely spot. It all depends how long you will stay doesn't it. Have you done Dublin? I must look through your videos. Any questions happy to help.

@@rutube46 Thanks for responding to our question 😀 You paint a lovely picture of Mountshannon. We had discussed going to Killaloe/Ballina and like you mentioned, one of our viewers mentioned Mountshannon. We certainly hope to get there. Yes, time will be a big consideration. We’ve received so many suggestions from viewers and we have an ambitious schedule 😀. Our goal is to eat , drink and talk to as many people as time allows. We spent two days in Dublin. Walked around about 16 miles total. We only have one day and we would like to get to the Trinity Library this time. Hope you see a few more videos. Thanks again for watching and commenting!

@deidrecollins6830. Thank you Mrs. Collins!! Unfortunately we probably won’t be able to do the Loop Head due to time restraints ☹ However your description of that part of Clare convinced me to check the area out on line. It looks and sounds just the way you describe it! At one point we talked about taking the ferry from Tarbert from Kerry to Clare . I wish we had more time! Thank you for your wonderful suggestion and your beautiful description. It sounds like a place where someone could see something differently on any given day. Very cool suggestion 😀 Keeping that one in our notes! Thanks again for watching and commenting!

@unclepick3459 It’s hot stuff alright…🙄😂

@laurelitervera. I wish we knew the name. ☹ We walked north on O’Connell St. and we went northeast on Parnell. As I recall there was an elevated train nearby. I’ve tried to search pubs on Parnell but didn’t see anything that looked familiar. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching!

@mauriceogrady4447. 😂 Thanks for watching! We’ll hope for the weather that we experienced on our last trip 😀 We will be ready for whatever we get though 😀👍✌

@jacobboyd9823. Thanks for watching! Yes, we’ve heard and read that. It’s a growing small city and so many people are wanting to move there. I’m sure they are going through some growing pains. They’ve got a great tourist base and so much to do outside of the city. Hope it works out for you!

@billyo54. Always good to hear from you Billy! Thanks for your comment 😀👍. We were hoping some our viewers from Ireland would watch this video. Your comment reminded us of why we feel so comfortable in Ireland 😀. As always, thanks for watching!

@patooykaas3544. We’ve had quite a few viewers comment on their love of a peat (or ‘turf’) fire especially around the holidays. Thanks for sharing your experience with the bricks! We have been talking about ordering the same thing 😀 but weren’t sure it would be what we were looking for. Thank you for watching and commenting 😀

NJHeart2Heart. Thanks for watching 👍😀. All the best!! Safe travels!! Let us know how your trip was 😀✌

@janicewilson6146. We’re glad you watched and commented. We will be in Cork! Are just wanting to see what we see or are thinking of something in particular?

@BigTorsk. Thanks for watching our video! We had a great plan just some bad execution 😀 Self inflicted mistakes for sure. We just wanted to remind viewers to pay more attention to whatever form of confirmations they receive. Thanks for communicating with us. Hope you watch a few more of our videos!

@johnburns6422. You just gave us the biggest smile with your comment 😁 Please let us know if you have any connections to work that out for us😂 We truly enjoyed our first trip and we’re excited to come back in September 👍👍

@johnburns6422. Thanks for watching our other videos 😀👍 Apologies for not responding to this message earlier. You’re always so complimentary! We both grew up in a more rural area and Ireland feels very comfortable to us. Hope that makes sense 😀👍🇺🇸🇮🇪

@@thissecondhalfadventure thanks yes

@@johnburns6422 😀👍✌

@@thissecondhalfadventure yes it makes sense to me I come from a small village in the very south of Ireland lived in Dublin for over Forty years and now I’m back in rural area living with the sheep and cows as life is more relaxing, Take care stay safe,PS,sorry for late reply.

@@johnburns6422 Chris lived in Chicago for several years. After growing up in smaller towns, he had to learn to sleep with all the city noise. When he moved back to Indiana he had to relearn how to fall asleep to tree frogs and crickets 😂 As we all get older it’s nice to slow things down a bit! Once again, all the best! 😀👍

@kimraynor3639. Thank you!! Will this be your first time driving in Ireland? Thanks for mentioning the music. Once we posted we can’t lower the volume on the video though. Safe travels on your trip!!

@Alan112573. Thank you for watching 👍👍 We really hope to go to the crystal factory. We would like to pick up something there😀. We also want to explore Waterford as much as we can! Glendalough is an excellent selection! We’re trying to work out how much time we can spend. We appreciate your comments!!

@simonannemarierussell4147. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment 😀 We’re looking forward to returning in September. Hope you keep watching!

@@thissecondhalfadventure definitely keep watching content is good

@@simonannemarierussell4147 Thank you! Comments like that give us a big smile! We really appreciate that 😀👍✌