I agree but there's a reason for it and there's some issues that can happen if people start messing with stuff that it's not intended to be messed with but everybody's vehicle is obviously their own and they can do what they want I'm only here to advise instruct and educate and obviously you see in the comment sections here there's a lot of people with negative things to say but they're not a professional and they don't do this like I do everyday but I do agree it's a stupid idea it's pointless
@@jsa310 still being a jerk? next jerk comment you will be booted I'm not here as your personal pleaser, I hope I've made myself clear. clean it up or get off the channel, I won't repeat myself
I’ve just stopped stopping between point A and point B. Sure traffic doesn’t like it whenever I split lanes scraping there paint and the HOA gets upset whenever I cut across lawns to avoid hitting the breaks but I never give my F150 the option to auto stop.
Thanks for the info! I just purchased a 2020 f150 and I have unplugged the connector you mentioned. It has been unplugged for one day, but after viewing your video I am going to plug it back in.
This is very good information, thank you for the video. The auto start/stop is highly annoying, and unfortunately it is a gimmick to game the bs EPA ratings for lower mpg vehicles. Any increase in fuel economy in real world use is minimal to nonexistant, and this current design trend is a disservice to the actual fuel economy ratings of these vehicles. So who loses? We, the consumers, who are forced to endure the ideology of people who think they know better than us.
Now I have seen people find the one individual wire in that connector which you have to look up a wiring diagram to find that out and snip it and then plug it back in and they've been fine unplugging the whole connector not a good idea I don't want to be at liberty for somebody doing that or else I would do a video on it but assembly leave that up to people themself
It's very ironic how life works sometimes. I watched this video two days ago. Yesterday one of my friends mentioned that he disabled his start-stop (ironically, a 2016 2wd, 2.7EB model) after ages of trying to figure out how. I asked him if he bought the 7-way tester and left it plugged in and he stated that that method did not work for him. He saw a video online about a tech unplugging a wire. I stopped him, found this video on my phone, and had him watch it. It's plugged in again and he'll not be unplugging it in the future. Thanks, Rich!
I totally agreed with the maker of this video and he just got one more thumbs-up from me. Ford SHOULD provides their customers an option to permanently disable this STUPID function which is automatically re-enabled by the computer on the next engine restart. I own a 2020 Ford Ranger. To permanently disable Auto Start Stop function, I plugged a tiny 0.5 watt LED night light into the 110-volt outlet on the rear of the center console. No more stops and restarts. Note that the Auto Start Stop function is not enabled IF an electrical accessory is turned on or plugged in. This is mentioned on page 145 in 2020 Ford Ranger Owner's Manual. This should work for other Ford SUV and pickup trucks as well.
They do have a delete from the factory Ford started doing it with the 21+ F150s. I just bought a 2022 F150 rocky ridge and it's been disabled from the factory there is not even a auto stop start a button
I have 2018 F150 Lariat. I used FORSCAN to disable the Auto-Stop. I hated that feature. The sales guy forgot to tell me about it. When I left the dealership, it auto-stopped on me at the traffic light in front of the dealership. I thought the truck died, so I pushed the start button and got really confused. Anyways, somehow I figured out what was happening and went on my way. First thing I did, was to figure out how to disable that feature (other than to remember to pressing the button every time I start the truck). Anyways, I found FORSCAN and also enabled my mirrors to fold when I park and arm the truck, and did some customs to the navi screen. I tried to disable the passenger seat belt minder (because I place my EDC backpack in the passenger seat and it thinks there's a passenger there). I did the FORSCAN, but it would eventually start chiming again. I just finally kept that belt locked.
Ugghh I hate the Auto Start/ Stop feature. Here in Florida you need AC all the time, and in heavy traffic this feature is jus simply super annoying. Sounds simple to just turn it off every time you hop in the car, but it shouldn't have to be that way...
Well I have a video on the library showing you how to program it out of there with the right software and it cost between $50 and $100 to do it and you don't have to worry about it anymore I'm not going to say anything else because I don't want to incriminate myself for telling other people how to do it but the videos there don't ask any more questions here go find the video It's called how to disable auto start stop and I walk you through the entire process
This is a nightmare on many brands. Never heard of this way, always heard of people using the button module that when powered up it would act to click the button to turn it off after so many seconds. They need to allow this to be disabled until turned back on in settings. It won't effect EPA numbers because they can disclaimer that it gets that while using the system and turning it off can change performance.
The second thing I did with my 2018 F150 3.0 diesel was disable the auto start stop. The first thing I did was delete all the emissions equipment. The truck performs much better without it and is proving to extend the life of the truck.
If car manufacturers don’t come up with these stupid functions to appease the EPA then customers don’t need to go crazy trying to disable auto start stop. I don’t think you understand how annoying it is to drive a car with the engine constantly cutting out. And the rough restarts that jolts the car. The delay on restarts. Shut off engine for less than a second at a stop sign. Me constantly thinking about if the engine is gonna shut off this time I come to a stop. It is very tiring to think about all that. You spend all this money to buy a car that you can’t enjoy because auto start stop keeps intruding on the driving experience. The only time it is acceptable for an engine to cut out is in a hybrid drivetrain. I always have power to instantly take off from a stop on a hybrid but not with auto start stop. Auto start stop is a transitional technology that was never designed with the customer in mind. I think car manufacturers are getting very arrogant with pushing stupid shit on people and assuming people won’t complain or retaliate. I know Toyota don’t do these auto start stop nonsense on their cars because they know it’s useless. And guess what the Camry still gets very good mpg without it.
If it is a "federal Thing", it would not have a button. It may be a federal thing for the manufacturer. In order to void a warranty, the dealer has to prove damage caused by "mod" .. not inconvenience
How arrogant of Ford to impose this system on F150 buyers! Clearly, Ford did not listen to its customer base before adding this to new models. Needless complexity that irritates many F150 owners.
I bought a can opener flash... works like a charm! Engine never died again. I got sick of the ford dealer telling me there was nothing wrong with my truck because the engine would die every time i stopped the truck. It spent it's first three weeks at the dealership because the engine kept shutting down. Sad when you spend all of that money for a truck and have to spend another 100 bucks to fix it. It should 100% be a warranty covered repair!
I am sure the F150 low in model not equipped Auto Stop feature. Your Fed requires not fly at this point. I am King Ranch owner, agree with you that not temper with the factory design but should Ford offer the option the set that feature off? If there are a lot of people complaining about it, that is the problem. You guys selling very expensive truck, you should ensure the user experience.
The only thing this plug under the dash does is power the annoying stop start and the trailer lights that's it, if you're not towing a trailer you can leave it out, plug it back in if you're going to tow something, it works, I've never had an issue......secondly, I don't believe for a moment that this has anything to do with the "Environment", this constant stopping and starting your engine can NOT possibly be a good thing for your car, otherwise we would have been doing it with our keys for decades, it's been a known fact that you cause the most wear and tear on your car every time you start it, that's when it has the least amount of lubricant on its internal parts. Also, isn't it funny how you're seeing more cars just stopped at lights that won't start?. This is a useless feature just like the "Tire Pressure Sensor", it's a money grab, I've had five cars and trucks and not once did I have the TPS changed (not at just over $100.00 per tire) , it's all bullshit.
Bro, people are going to do whatever they want to their vehicle. Just because YOU "don't think it's a good idea" isn't enough justification for anyone to heed your advice. If a vehicle owner disables a module that costs you valuable diag. time, then charge the customer for it. If they disable their auto-start-stop by using an OBD-II tool or something that doesn't affect any other module, then good for them, at least they are smarter than the other guy. It all comes down to personal preference and choice.
If Ford gave us a one-time permanent disable auto start/stop switch, we wouldn't have that problem. It's too inconvenient to press the disable switch every single time. Nobody asked for auto start/stop feature in the first place.
Ford BMS is awfull. Not even that is not charging the battery, and it always interrupts the battery from charging, it is doing other shit things. For example, if you have an electric tailgate, this will trow a code into computer that says "short circuit open" why? because the battery is not charged when you get home and stop the car and the voltage drops. Not only the start stop is damaging the gearbox, giving it shocks every few meters in the city, but it also damages the piston rings, because is starting and stopping the engine constantly and you will get oil burns, turbo failure and DPF failure on a diesel car. BMS and start stop are link together to F**k your car up.
Holy shit , are people so lazy they complain about tapping a button on the dash every time they fire the engine ?? , my 2016 Lariat , my 2019 Lariat and now my 2021 Lariat have the same button , i, am exhausted from hitting that button all the time , got Carpal tunnel from all that pushing !
You're right it's easy to push the button people just don't want to do it and then they find when I talk about issues that they could have Buy modifying stuff is not designed to be modified under warranty they get even more upset but I'm just here to share the knowledge and keep people updated on their vehicles
This is just poor engineering by Ford, not a Federal thing. Look, I don’t care that it is there but there is no effing way that a customer shouldn’t be able to disable it if he/she doesn’t want it. I have a 2016 F-150 and I absolute hate Auto start stop. It just doesn’t make sense for me. It is just poor engineering that it can’t be disabled. Should be a simple request to be able to disable it.
Such helpless actions disconnecting plugwires causes a lot of malfunction Codes.. people don't know this and wondering when other stuff begins to disable..😂 And last but not least, vehicles operating license expires!
My uncle is Ford executive, he said he don't care what people want, it's all about share price and MPG helps that. He said he would make a car feed you Doritos and tickle your 🍆as long as shareholders are happy.
Thanks, I was just about to go out and unplug that connector when I saw your video. I thought the connector idea sounded to good to be true. I hate the start/stop feature.
went to the dealer Sunday checked out some window stickers seems most if not all stop/start have been deactivated and a 50 rebate applied now lets get rid of cylinder deactivation on the 5.0 L ....Range makes one for ford
Appreciate your information, but i can tell you the auto start stop drawbacks. Wear and tear of the starting system is the first tning that comes to mind.
This only happens if you don't do it right. If done the correct way none of these problems occur. If your going to do something do it right and do your research.
I was going to pull that plug until you explained that there may be other unwanted issues. I will continue to just press the button at each start up. I will say that I hate this auto stop feature, it doesn't save any gas and in the hot south it will need to restart in 30 seconds anyway.
i own a 2020 F150 V8 5.0 the dealership replaced the engine 6 weeks ago after that i have all kinds of problems, AC not blowing cold air, and now i have charge system fault warning , i check the battery and alternator both are good, truck off battery voltage is little over 12 and truck running i have 14:75 and now Steering wheel is so hard to turn and heater only works in low speed, my truck only has 57000 miles what a garbage FORD dealership they damage my truck and they do not want to fixed, i never have any of this problems before the Engine replacement, i don't know what to do now whit this truck.
No clue but I'm glad they didn't or I wouldn't have been able to fund this to give them some info It's not really good to do this kind of stuff to your dealer technician because our time is valuable also so if you try to hide things that you're doing it just makes our life a living hell
Vehicle buyers are fed up with manufactures features that we have no use for. It's getting to the point that Ford is producing a Computer that has 4 wheels, and that the products are designed as a throw-a-way device. The day will soon come when Ford decides to stop support for the software that runs the vehicle, and at that point the value of the vehicle is now $0. You may not be able to drive the vehicle you paid for, yet Ford decides how long they will allow you to drive it. It will be a society that you will never own anything, and like it. You may be stuck with a vehicle you still making payments on yet the vehicle is no longer operates. Ford decided you are no longer allowed to drive the vehicle you own. I recall the airbag problem with my Ford Mustang 2008. A recall that occurred 3 times for airbag replacement. There were no replacements, yet the owner was give the only options to park the car, or take you chance that in an accident the airbag deployment might kill you from the metal fragments. Never was an option to turn off the airbag while waiting for a replacement airbag. Buying a new Ford is becoming more difficult. You either submit to total control by Ford and its ownership, or you keep your old model and hope their will be parts to keep it running. I expect to see customers to choose not to buy new, resulting in more like you would see in Cuba of automotive junk on wheels. Ford no longer is building Ford Tough, or Job One. Nothing like forced obsoletion while driving up the cost of owning and driving. I won't be a customer much longer, and it wont be in an electric vehicle.
I appreciate the info but you sound more sympathetic to Ford than to customers. It sounds pretty unanimous that owners of vehicles do not want start stop activated by default upon start up. That's Ford's issue--not ours and you should be an advocate for consumers instead of taking into a more corporate shill mentality... And I mean that with as little offense as possible. This is a problem of Ford's creation. I don't see you commenting on the effects of start stop on starters, battery, engine, etc long term which will really suck once owners' warranties expire. The real advice should be, plug that sucker back in before you take it in for service. Or better yet, you personally should use this experience as a learning example and integrate it into your diagnostic process that way you won't have to waste time and threaten people with charging them for time. By the way I'm a body tech and I respect you guys but I think you need to rethink your role a bit unless you enjoy manufacturers telling you how to enjoy products you buy with your hard earned money.
If you would take a second to do the research on the channel and look at the other videos and see how I've been harassed because of this very video here and how very poor at best it is for people like you not seeing the sincerity of how I put this video out and then still saying it seems like I'm trying to team up with Ford here is complete bulshit Very simple to hit the damn button right up on the dash quit being lazy hit the button when you get in the vehicle that's it done case in point or get forscan and the OBD link EX dongle and program the damn auto start-stop out of the vehicle you can do it at home yourself literally instead of unplugging things making my life more difficult or other technicians lives more difficult I literally made several videos on this because of the stupid s*** that was being said to me I'm not trying to take up for Ford but what I'm trying to say is quit listening to dumb people on the internet they're telling you to do stuff some kind of halfway when you can find out from people like me and private how to do it the right way and make it turn off completely so you're not making my life harder at the dealership
If the auto start stop is federally mandated, how have they been able to sell the trucks without this feature during the chip shortage? Seen several F150s on the lot with a $50 credit for auto stop delete in the last couple months.
I didn't really mean federally mandated and when I meant was the manufacturers registering these vehicles federally for EPA standards but that's not the point the point is you're causing More Problems by doing this stupid s*** when you can just bring it to me and I could program the stuff out of the truck I even have video showing people how to buy the program and then program it out of the truck so it doesn't even think that it was ever built with it and it doesn't cause problems
Thanks for the info but in all honesty Fortune stop doing shit like this. All this is is just bowing down to the tree-huggers that think this is going to save the planet when the plane is not in jeopardy. The only thing I hate about it is trying to turn left or right when you're stopped in the engine is cut off. Yes the engine picks back up pretty quick but if you're already on a hill or something like that and trying to turn into a road you have no power steering. I have not and probably will not disable it but it sucks.
This ain't about the tree-huggers this is about people getting f***** over by the dealership because they're doing stuff that they're not supposed to be doing to their vehicles and then causing frustration with diagnosing things and then they get mad when we tell them three hours is getting charged to them because of the modifications they did to their vehicle under warranty It's pretty simple if you have an issue with your vehicle in the way of reforms grab a computer by forscan program the s*** out of it or complain to the manufacturer that's it don't make my job harder because of what you don't like because if you think you have that mindset and you have the right to do that then I'm going to charge you a bunch of money and when you don't pay you lose your vehicle and a mechanic's lien gets put on the vehicle
Thanks for telling us which harness to unplug. Now I just need to remember to plug it back in before taking my truck to the dealership to avoid confusing the techs.
Much appreciated Also unplugging this connector causes communication issues with lighting control module b...and the smart touch handles and the electronic tailgate release Just leave it alone or buy a product called forscan and disable it through the computer It's 20 bucks for the doggle and it's ten bucks for a year subscription or 50 bucks for a lifetime subscription and do it the right way instead of this hack way
@@Terminxman supposedly you're supposed to be able to disable it through the cluster on those now I can't tell you that for sure because I don't do that and I don't go looking for it and the last one I even tried to look at it was a fleet vehicle and you could go through the screen to disable it but it would never disable
@@Terminxman you guys have to remember as well you're asking a dealer technician how to disable things that I shouldn't be telling you how to disable so please be conscious of that so I don't get in trouble
First of all you're going to have to watch how you're going to be sarcastic here on this channel but just remember I'm the director here I'm not going to let somebody come here and just talk s*** because they can when you learn to be respectful I'll give you some more time but I actually made many follow-up videos to this because of stupid people like you
2021 Ford F-150 XLT Sport. My AUTO START/STOP has failed on its own. Icon (white)illuminates on the dashboard, but the engine never shuts off (icon never turns green). Now more problems have reared their ugly head. Interior lights only work occasionally, reverse sensor has changed notification tone, exterior perimeter lighting works occasionally. Dealer wants 3-5 days for analysis of the problems. I was told not to worry about it, it is a convenience option! New 2022 F-150's have this feature cancelled on the window sticker (Delete Auto Start/Stop -$50). Check it out.
So here's the thing you can either reset the BMS the battery monitor system and see if everything comes back by turning the key on but not starting the vehicle flashing the brights five times stepping on the brake three times and letting go and then watching the battery light flash a couple times about 10 seconds later and sometimes that brings everything back on board We've been having a lot of brand new truck battery issues where the vehicles with just three or 400 miles on them already have bad batteries
I wish I could say what you're saying is true but it's not because then you go to another problem somewhere else that's worse where you could just take this to me I can charge you a half hour and I can disable everything with the computer permanently
I hope you’re trying to be sarcastic for job protection purposes. This is an excellent way to disable the stop/stop !! I realize as a ford mechanic they do not pay very well on repair costs but customer related this is a great way to quit the start stop if applying a trailer adapter is not favorable. It’s simple, unplug it everything works except the trailer brakes and auto start/ stop . If you need the trailer lights then plug back in. Maybe, possibly some models have other features involved but I have a 2018 f-150 XLT (big screen , heated seats, locking tailgate , door lock controls ect) unplugging that particular plug ONLY effects the auto start / stop and trailer brakes. I do not haul a trailer so therefore this was the best option for me. If in doubt, refer to your electronic schematics and find out for yourself. Sorry you had to waste time on diagnosis if you didn’t already realize this was an easy fix…
I understand that the auto start stop issue is a federal guidelines now due to the emissions..... I understand that and I can respect the intent behind it....... Now just tell me how to deactivate the damn GPS...
Get the forscan program for your computer it's like 50 bucks and buy the obd link ex dongle and then Google forscan f150 auto start stop deactivate and follow the programming directions
Nobody what you do is you go to my video where I show you how to use the computer and what software and program to buy that only cost you $100 so that way you can use it on your vehicle for other projects in the future and program it out of there the right way so you don't cause issues
Well, yes the Auto Start/Stop is a PITA especially if you have mostly short distance and city driving with lots of stops and red lights. The engine is not even getting warm and all these cold starts cannot be good for the engine and nature as well. Too bad it is required by the law so that the manufacturer can get the required ratings to advertise with. Also customer is paying less taxes here since it is partially emission based. I just use the "Auto Start/Stop Disable button" each time I start my vehicle. Nothing easier than that. That way the engine gets a chance to get warm and the related parts get a better life expectancy. Ford introduced the Start/Stop feature but it seems they failed to also put in stronger/more reliable starters for higher wear. I have read of a good amount failing rather early. Do you see any of that in NA models? Disabling this feature makes me think of people doing everything to disable the seatbelt reminder chime because they don't like to wear a seat belt. Although later one is more like applying for the Darwin Award.
I don't like the design indeed, actually I have not experienced a Auto Start Stop Failure in my care yet so I wouldn't be a good person to comment on the failure part but it does make sense. if the vehicle exhibits 10 events where it functions its supposed to disable
I think we all understand that your time is valuable and there aren't enough hours in the day but this could all be addressed by Ford simply allowing customers to have the dealer flash the pcm and turn that feature off. We all know with forscan we can do it so why doesn't the dealer do it. I would even pay for this to be turned off and when flashed it voids nothing as it's a check box item.
That auto/start stop is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever seen. What does it actually save you in gas? About a teaspoon? We've got that on our 2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk and I hate it! On my Jeep someone posted that there is a secondary wire going to the battery that can be disconnected. Someone also posted that if you plug a trailer plug into the hitch, it will defeat the auto start/stop.
Thanks for clearing this up for me because I was about to go out and pull that plug under the dash but they’re have to hearing what you went through and I do have all the power options such as tailgate and hand door handle lock I don’t wanna deal with that so I’ll just leave it alone and push the button on the dash when I don’t want it on.
I seen allot of comments about a a button that turns off the start/stop issue but that you have to turn it off everytime you start the truck... Can somebody tell me where is at? I dnt mind doing it everytime I start the truck. I have a 2022 F150 XL 5.0 engine regular cab
On the F-150 has its up on the dash in the center and it has the letter A, you push it and it disables the auto start-stop on Startup when you physically push it But it turns back on after you key cycle off you have to do it each time you get in the vehicle
@@FordBossMe it was that easy... Dnt know why people would want to disconnect and mess with things when they can just push a button each time you turn the truck on. Anyways good looking out with the fast reply
so what if i have a problem with auto stop making my car die at lights? either dies as soon as auto stop engages or it'll try to restart and cant leaving me stuck for a couple mins till it starts.
Some people are unplugging that sensor and they're saying it's stopping it some people are buying the disable or switch online that goes behind the button that makes it think that you want it turned off all the time what I've been doing for my customers I've actually been just going in and programming it out completely with a program called forscan
@@FordBossMe I just read into it more and that plug is for the negative side sensor for the battery monitor system. Unplugging that puts the bms into a fault mode that keeps the charging system at full output non stop. It add additional strain to the engine(added drag from alternator) that will result in lower efficiency from the engine but not enough to worry about. With the bms in fault mode auto start stop won’t work as it thinks it needs to charge the battery even if the battery is fully charged. So really it's a bad idea as well.
The only CORRECT way to do this is to get a dongle (for about ~$90) that goes between the switch and the wiring harness that will let you turn the ASS off OR back on. It just remembers where you had it set. Turn it back on if you're going to the dealer and they will never know it's there, it will act exactly like it is supposed to. The name of it is "Auto Stop Eliminator".
Wow man this is actually a really great video thank you. I've been looking at buying a 2022 Hyundai Tucson and it has auto start stop but it also has a button that will disable that but you have to push it every time you turn the car on so you know if I get in my car in the morning I can start the car hit the button and it will disable the auto start stop but then I have to push that button every time I get into the car. It really shows a lot of integrity that you're telling people about this good on ya man.
I’ve got a 2018 Platinum and after a long highway drives it fails to restart at the next intersection start/stop shuts the engine off - THAT is a PITA!
I don't like that auto start-stop shit I wonder if you took one of those trailer connectors and plugged it into the trailer plug-in if that would have eliminate enough for you on your long drives Just to get that auto start stop to stay off
@@FordBossMe It will ... one of those with the LED lights. but it also disables the back-up camera and obstacle alert. And your "towing odometer" rolls. LOL.. It's ridiculous!
Auto Boss ... thanks for abstaining on sending us the bill for your time on this video. If this is as prevalent as you're reporting ... folks disabling ASS mode ... someone needs to wake-up and understand this system is UNDESIRED. ASS mode is for the manufacture not the person who OWNS the vehicle. The system, as you've noted with your billable time in labor troubleshooting, isn't free. It costs money and that's to the OWNER, not the tech, not the manufacturer. It's a system which can/will fail. I discovered this on a 2017 I bought. Wasn't informed about this system. Was unaware of it. Shutdown happened almost immediately. TH-cam to the rescue. As you state, correctly, unplugging the connector did have other effects ... no trailer lights on my XLT. SMH!!!! You seem to be a great tech and I appreciate those. Withhold the sermon about warranty. I never want a warranty. I want my product to perform as advertised ... which should include a significant change to the operation of the vehicle like THIS one. I operate with the connector unplugged. Works great lasts a long time. The 2 times a year my 1/2 ton pulls a little trailer, I reconnect it. Trailer towing is for one ton diesels (of which I have also). Have a great one out there.
So your comment is kind of like really difficult to understand because it seems like you're being genuine but then being a smart-ass at the same time so I'm just going to make a small comment and then I'm going to move on because I don't have time to sit and decipher what people really mean when they're playing word games I do what I do because I like being honest with people and I share things as I figure them out that maybe other people don't know Now depending on the model the options and how your truck is set up things may be affected differently You a consumer of a F150 you may be fine, you may be just fabulous and doing things a certain way that fit for you but I work on these things daily and I don't share things just on one video I share things on thousands of videos and people gain from them greatly.....Some respect to me the one putting in the work would be great In this video I was only honest about what could happen and these vehicles shod operate the way the manufacturer intends them to based on regulations that have been put on them You do what you do but what I don't understand is why you wanted to come to somebody else's Channel and leave your information here and it's really not needed. who has time for someone's shit comments? Not me
@@FordBossMe OK dude. I was sincere. perhaps snarky about the bill ... but you sought it with the repetitive references to a service charge for troubleshooting a malfunction that was as simple as a connection disabled. I mean ... the reader you connected to download the codes ... right next to the unplugged connector. So ... Consider addressing the reason for the auto start stop. It's not for the customer. It's not even for real world emissions control. It's a perception that the company is complying with an arbitrary mileage requirement. When your best seller is a truck ... your overall fleet mileage rating is gonna need some help ... this is akin to the VWgate (and I loved that btw), but before I get accused of another excrement comment ... Why comment? To give a greater understanding. I was curious as to the "why" in your video title. nothing more than features disabled. No way it harms the vehicle/systems in any way, so the presumption of violating a warranty is ridiculous. Which is probably why a typical dealership would seek to so cite for refusing a warranty repair. you have a nice day.
First of all you said at the end as to " why " and this video explains why so by you re questioning why after I've already said why that just makes me think that this is all a shitshow to begin with You obviously didn't watch the whole video or maybe you didn't obtain the information because you already had some kind of other agenda on your mind and you didn't clearly hear what I talked about in this video which I clearly broke it down on why I could have charged back for my time because of customer modification Now just because that connector is sitting right next to the The old port doesn't mean it's that easy to get these systems to cooperate sometimes Sometimes it takes multiple times of going back into the computer and clearing codes out because they just won't clear out right away so there has to be more to this that you understand rather than just passing Judgment at surface-level if you don't do what I do Plus you're not automatically going to think the reason for all the problems is because the the customer on plugged trailer lights to the ABS module to disable the auto start-stop so if you're having other issues you're going to be looking at other things first which takes time Now when these vehicles come in I automatically look there but also I need to be compensated for my time if I plug something back in and have to hook up a computer to clear the codes that's not a freebie there ain't nothing in life is free it's still charged so where you get this whole mindset that things are supposed to be given away because it's under warranty boggles my mind
@@FordBossMe if unplugging the connection is happening so often you deemed it beneficial to make a video about it, why not start there with troubleshooting? No, you replaced a component first. I can do that and I'm just a ne'er do well. Who's assuming what of another now? RE warranty freebie. So again, if this is happening so often, perhaps the next production year, manufacturer would have woken-up ... but that presumes in this example, it's about the best product for the customer when it's really about "dithering" a data point to comply with an arbitrary requirement from government. Oh ... my VW comment ... I dropped the ball on that one. It could be taken that I loved the almost 20 billion judgement. Insane! ... I loved VW's answer. It's our bought-paid-for government's emission limitation which was foul, just as this arbitrary requirement for an overall mileage average. Someone doesn't want motor vehicle diesels in less than a 3/4 Ton truck chassis. Look it up on the EPA's website on NOX allowances. The chart screams that truth. Proportional reduction with GVR ... until less than 7K lbs. Then the max drops like a lead balloon. Hmm??? The NOX limit and the "fleet mileage" requirement ... neither relevant to to suck/squeeze/bang/blow design improvement. so your video would have been better with about 6 minutes less time and simply state: "when you pull this plug to disable auto start stop, there's a cascade of effects ... you can thank your government for ASS mode. Have a good day" done. But we got a sermon on time spent troubleshooting and warranty work. I expect this will be rejected as well ... because I started this entire thing with a snark to rebut the main point you had ... now you're miffed. OBD receptacle ... literally in plain sight of said connector. That's all.
@@shaark92 first of all when you hook up that OBD Port you've been in and out of these vehicles so much you don't get down and look up underneath the dash to see if something's unplugged your whole thinking process on that Port being so close you should see the connector being unplugged is so flawed it's unreal and a lot of us we have this muscle memory on where the connector is now we don't get down and look underneath the dash we just reach down and plug it in cuz we already know where it's at Second of all I did specify in my return comment to you that this is a normal thing now I checked that because of how often it is so I'm not sure where half of your comment comes from because I've already specified why I made a video in response to comments like yours to explain what I go through on a daily basis and people like you coming to this channel to leave comments you need to wake up and realize a little bit more of what we go through th-cam.com/video/IUW3zfXYX_s/w-d-xo.html
Good video. I'll be checking your other out. Thanks for making this. I have a 2015 F150 with a 5.0 V8. I love this truck. Only 75K on her and only had to do oil changes, brake pads and front vacuum hub actuators. I absolutely hate start stop along with cylinder deactivation. I get 17-18 mpg in my F150 and I am happy with this. I have three Fords, but I'll lean to another vehicle or company that does not force this on me.
Totally agree with you! Tried this on my xlt, everything is fine, no auto stop start, no cel, but after I scanned for codes, several showed up including steering module etc etc. Plugged back in and will use the deactivate button for now.
Thank you for that and I appreciate your honesty. A lot of people like to come on here and argue with me because they don't like Ford's design but they don't like when I tell them the truth about what's going on I'm just here trying to help people navigate this thing we call life and save them some money in the process
I had a Mazda CX-3 and wedged a piece of card between it and another switch - worked a treat - will try it on my Puma - the problem with some of these so called cures they require you to do various button pushed that are more than the one to deactivate it using the supplied off button - there are some much more annoying things going on in the car than this.. I have chimes that I cannot adjust the volume, there is a gui for the seat belts that appears at startup whether the belts are on or off and you have to press OK on the steering for it to go away..
hello sir I have my 2016 f-150 and it won’t start after I took off the rear break mode off and it try’s to crank up but it won’t start but I have a push start and it’s really difficult for me to figure out what’s the problem.
I’ve an 18 xl model, I just turned off the auto star/stop through the settings on the dash with the steering wheel buttons and now I don’t have to push the button every time. Pretty simple. I hate assuming, but is this NOT an option on all pickups?
It's really not hard to push the A button, I mean you push the button to start it, so for me it's not that big of a deal to just push another button! Thanks for the info! ♥️♥️♥️
Nice idea to mess with that BCM...Then wonder why stuff stops working... Why you check other peoples idea.. As they pay no price when they are wrong..You do...
What does that have to do with any of this? The auto start stop can disable for many reasons and if the customer is not complaining lots of times you won't know
Yes I did this on my 2017 f150 and roughly 2 months later I hooked up to my trailer and the trailer turn lights wouldn’t work, took about 1/2 hr to figure out what I did, just push the dam button. Good topic
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Well, the mandated auto start/stop "feature" wasn't a great idea either.
I agree but there's a reason for it and there's some issues that can happen if people start messing with stuff that it's not intended to be messed with but everybody's vehicle is obviously their own and they can do what they want I'm only here to advise instruct and educate and obviously you see in the comment sections here there's a lot of people with negative things to say but they're not a professional and they don't do this like I do everyday but I do agree it's a stupid idea it's pointless
@@FordBossMe Yeah, I know, and I appreciate the heads up. Nice informative vid on yet another consequence of this Big Brother stuff they force on us.
@@FordBossMe have you ever heard of a run-on sentence?
@@jsa310 still being a jerk?
next jerk comment you will be booted
I'm not here as your personal pleaser, I hope I've made myself clear.
clean it up or get off the channel, I won't repeat myself
@@FordBossMe boot him anyways Rich
I’ve just stopped stopping between point A and point B. Sure traffic doesn’t like it whenever I split lanes scraping there paint and the HOA gets upset whenever I cut across lawns to avoid hitting the breaks but I never give my F150 the option to auto stop.
lol
Thanks for the info! I just purchased a 2020 f150 and I have unplugged the connector you mentioned. It has been unplugged for one day, but after viewing your video I am going to plug it back in.
This is very good information, thank you for the video. The auto start/stop is highly annoying, and unfortunately it is a gimmick to game the bs EPA ratings for lower mpg vehicles. Any increase in fuel economy in real world use is minimal to nonexistant, and this current design trend is a disservice to the actual fuel economy ratings of these vehicles. So who loses? We, the consumers, who are forced to endure the ideology of people who think they know better than us.
Now I have seen people find the one individual wire in that connector which you have to look up a wiring diagram to find that out and snip it and then plug it back in and they've been fine unplugging the whole connector not a good idea
I don't want to be at liberty for somebody doing that or else I would do a video on it but assembly leave that up to people themself
On my old fusion I was able to shut it off using forscan. Worked like a charm.
So maybe update the service procedure to first check that the plug is connected???
It's very ironic how life works sometimes. I watched this video two days ago. Yesterday one of my friends mentioned that he disabled his start-stop (ironically, a 2016 2wd, 2.7EB model) after ages of trying to figure out how. I asked him if he bought the 7-way tester and left it plugged in and he stated that that method did not work for him. He saw a video online about a tech unplugging a wire. I stopped him, found this video on my phone, and had him watch it. It's plugged in again and he'll not be unplugging it in the future. Thanks, Rich!
I totally agreed with the maker of this video and he just got one more thumbs-up from me.
Ford SHOULD provides their customers an option to permanently disable this STUPID function which is automatically re-enabled by the computer on the next engine restart. I own a 2020 Ford Ranger. To permanently disable Auto Start Stop function, I plugged a tiny 0.5 watt LED night light into the 110-volt outlet on the rear of the center console. No more stops and restarts. Note that the Auto Start Stop function is not enabled IF an electrical accessory is turned on or plugged in. This is mentioned on page 145 in 2020 Ford Ranger Owner's Manual. This should work for other Ford SUV and pickup trucks as well.
Hmm. I just checked our '17 F150 XLT 2.7 V6 ... no 110 outlet. bummer. Shoulda sprung for the Lariat I guess! LOL.
Can you tell me what brand the night light is?
LoL, that's just nuts
They do have a delete from the factory Ford started doing it with the 21+ F150s. I just bought a 2022 F150 rocky ridge and it's been disabled from the factory there is not even a auto stop start a button
There’s a reason why they make those things interlaced with other items . Because BIG BROTHER would get angry and thanked it out on the company .
I have had mine unplugged for many months, zero issues except my truck doesn't irritate me at a red light with un needed wear and tear on my engine.
I have 2018 F150 Lariat. I used FORSCAN to disable the Auto-Stop. I hated that feature. The sales guy forgot to tell me about it. When I left the dealership, it auto-stopped on me at the traffic light in front of the dealership. I thought the truck died, so I pushed the start button and got really confused. Anyways, somehow I figured out what was happening and went on my way. First thing I did, was to figure out how to disable that feature (other than to remember to pressing the button every time I start the truck). Anyways, I found FORSCAN and also enabled my mirrors to fold when I park and arm the truck, and did some customs to the navi screen. I tried to disable the passenger seat belt minder (because I place my EDC backpack in the passenger seat and it thinks there's a passenger there). I did the FORSCAN, but it would eventually start chiming again. I just finally kept that belt locked.
Bad idea. Auto start/stop. Door chime. Seatbelt chime. Those are bad ideas. I pulled that plug a year ago and never been happier.
You can leave it plugged on and permanently program it out
Ugghh I hate the Auto Start/ Stop feature. Here in Florida you need AC all the time, and in heavy traffic this feature is jus simply super annoying. Sounds simple to just turn it off every time you hop in the car, but it shouldn't have to be that way...
Well I have a video on the library showing you how to program it out of there with the right software and it cost between $50 and $100 to do it and you don't have to worry about it anymore I'm not going to say anything else because I don't want to incriminate myself for telling other people how to do it but the videos there don't ask any more questions here go find the video It's called how to disable auto start stop and I walk you through the entire process
This is a nightmare on many brands. Never heard of this way, always heard of people using the button module that when powered up it would act to click the button to turn it off after so many seconds. They need to allow this to be disabled until turned back on in settings. It won't effect EPA numbers because they can disclaimer that it gets that while using the system and turning it off can change performance.
Important info. Unfortunately the start/stop feature leads to more costs than unplugging. F the FED.
This is the only reason I'm not getting the new Bronco.
Boy , doesn't take much to change your mind !
It cost me $483 to replace the auxiliary battery sensor for Start/Start "system " . Hate my car.
That's why you use the Auto Stop Eliminator. It doesn't affect any other system.
Yeah but I have video showing people how to properly actually program it out of the system using a computer
Probably, but I have a Chrysler Pacifica Limited, and I used the Auto Stop Eliminator. I don't know if it can be programmed out for my vehicle.
The second thing I did with my 2018 F150 3.0 diesel was disable the auto start stop. The first thing I did was delete all the emissions equipment. The truck performs much better without it and is proving to extend the life of the truck.
If car manufacturers don’t come up with these stupid functions to appease the EPA then customers don’t need to go crazy trying to disable auto start stop. I don’t think you understand how annoying it is to drive a car with the engine constantly cutting out. And the rough restarts that jolts the car. The delay on restarts. Shut off engine for less than a second at a stop sign. Me constantly thinking about if the engine is gonna shut off this time I come to a stop. It is very tiring to think about all that. You spend all this money to buy a car that you can’t enjoy because auto start stop keeps intruding on the driving experience. The only time it is acceptable for an engine to cut out is in a hybrid drivetrain. I always have power to instantly take off from a stop on a hybrid but not with auto start stop. Auto start stop is a transitional technology that was never designed with the customer in mind. I think car manufacturers are getting very arrogant with pushing stupid shit on people and assuming people won’t complain or retaliate. I know Toyota don’t do these auto start stop nonsense on their cars because they know it’s useless. And guess what the Camry still gets very good mpg without it.
You're absolutely right I don't understand anything about this stuff that's why I make videos about it and try to educate people but you're correct
I didn't say it wasn't frustrating and I didn't say that it was a good idea to do it so where you're comment was initially headed I don't know
If it is a "federal Thing", it would not have a button. It may be a federal thing for the manufacturer. In order to void a warranty, the dealer has to prove damage caused by "mod" .. not inconvenience
If you fool around on a warranty covered vehicle, the tech is entitled to his/her hour, or two just to undo what you did.
You're right, how easy to just hit the button when you start up.Thanks for your time.
How arrogant of Ford to impose this system on F150 buyers! Clearly, Ford did not listen to its customer base before adding this to
new models. Needless complexity that irritates many F150 owners.
G M and Dodge have auto start too , it isn't just Ford .
Or salesman who dont disclose the feature from the beginning.
This is not just a ford thing. Its a government mandate
I bought a can opener flash... works like a charm! Engine never died again. I got sick of the ford dealer telling me there was nothing wrong with my truck because the engine would die every time i stopped the truck. It spent it's first three weeks at the dealership because the engine kept shutting down. Sad when you spend all of that money for a truck and have to spend another 100 bucks to fix it. It should 100% be a warranty covered repair!
Shheeeeiiiit
Cost me $483 to replace the auxiliary battery sensor for Start/Stop system.
I am sure the F150 low in model not equipped Auto Stop feature. Your Fed requires not fly at this point. I am King Ranch owner, agree with you that not temper with the factory design but should Ford offer the option the set that feature off? If there are a lot of people complaining about it, that is the problem. You guys selling very expensive truck, you should ensure the user experience.
The only thing this plug under the dash does is power the annoying stop start and the trailer lights that's it, if you're not towing a trailer you can leave it out, plug it back in if you're going to tow something, it works, I've never had an issue......secondly, I don't believe for a moment that this has anything to do with the "Environment", this constant stopping and starting your engine can NOT possibly be a good thing for your car, otherwise we would have been doing it with our keys for decades, it's been a known fact that you cause the most wear and tear on your car every time you start it, that's when it has the least amount of lubricant on its internal parts. Also, isn't it funny how you're seeing more cars just stopped at lights that won't start?. This is a useless feature just like the "Tire Pressure Sensor", it's a money grab, I've had five cars and trucks and not once did I have the TPS changed (not at just over $100.00 per tire) , it's all bullshit.
the reason people disable the auto start stop thing is cause it wears the engine out so much faster
90% of engine wear is from starting and stopping
Then how did all those hybrids make it to 300k miles? Hmmm.
@@gearsofwar3xXx they are Toyota
Bro, people are going to do whatever they want to their vehicle. Just because YOU "don't think it's a good idea" isn't enough justification for anyone to heed your advice. If a vehicle owner disables a module that costs you valuable diag. time, then charge the customer for it. If they disable their auto-start-stop by using an OBD-II tool or something that doesn't affect any other module, then good for them, at least they are smarter than the other guy. It all comes down to personal preference and choice.
If Ford gave us a one-time permanent disable auto start/stop switch, we wouldn't have that problem. It's too inconvenient to press the disable switch every single time. Nobody asked for auto start/stop feature in the first place.
Ford BMS is awfull. Not even that is not charging the battery, and it always interrupts the battery from charging, it is doing other shit things. For example, if you have an electric tailgate, this will trow a code into computer that says "short circuit open" why? because the battery is not charged when you get home and stop the car and the voltage drops.
Not only the start stop is damaging the gearbox, giving it shocks every few meters in the city, but it also damages the piston rings, because is starting and stopping the engine constantly and you will get oil burns, turbo failure and DPF failure on a diesel car. BMS and start stop are link together to F**k your car up.
2018 Loaded Lariat. Never had a problem in almost 6 years with plug pulled but Forscan is better. To each his own
Holy shit , are people so lazy they complain about tapping a button on the dash every time they fire the engine ?? , my 2016 Lariat , my 2019 Lariat and now my 2021 Lariat have the same button , i, am exhausted from hitting that button all the time , got Carpal tunnel from all that pushing !
You're right it's easy to push the button people just don't want to do it and then they find when I talk about issues that they could have Buy modifying stuff is not designed to be modified under warranty they get even more upset but I'm just here to share the knowledge and keep people updated on their vehicles
This is just poor engineering by Ford, not a Federal thing. Look, I don’t care that it is there but there is no effing way that a customer shouldn’t be able to disable it if he/she doesn’t want it. I have a 2016 F-150 and I absolute hate Auto start stop. It just doesn’t make sense for me. It is just poor engineering that it can’t be disabled. Should be a simple request to be able to disable it.
Such helpless actions disconnecting plugwires causes a lot of malfunction Codes.. people don't know this and wondering when other stuff begins to disable..😂
And last but not least, vehicles operating license expires!
My uncle is Ford executive, he said he don't care what people want, it's all about share price and MPG helps that. He said he would make a car feed you Doritos and tickle your 🍆as long as shareholders are happy.
Making the feature without a maintained switch/setting is an insult to the customer from the manufacturer and the government. Business as usual.
Are people really going this far and crazy because their car starts and stops at complete stops? Bro just leave it it’s not that deep.
Thanks, I was just about to go out and unplug that connector when I saw your video. I thought the connector idea sounded to good to be true. I hate the start/stop feature.
went to the dealer Sunday checked out some window stickers seems most if not all stop/start have been deactivated and a 50 rebate applied now lets get rid of cylinder deactivation on the 5.0 L ....Range makes one for ford
If Ford would give us options to do what we want with our truck then we wouldn't have to break things. Hopefully Ford is listening
Appreciate your information, but i can tell you the auto start stop drawbacks. Wear and tear of the starting system is the first tning that comes to mind.
You couldn’t have charged! The customer would say the factory left the connector loose. Prove him wrong!
This only happens if you don't do it right. If done the correct way none of these problems occur.
If your going to do something do it right and do your research.
You unplug from the negative side of the battery to disable
Misinformation
I've covered this, do better please
People do this stuff, because auto start-stop is the dumbest feature ever…WE ALL HATE IT FORD…Get rid of it.
I was going to pull that plug until you explained that there may be other unwanted issues. I will continue to just press the button at each start up. I will say that I hate this auto stop feature, it doesn't save any gas and in the hot south it will need to restart in 30 seconds anyway.
I have a 17 and sometimes my auto/stop work sometimes doesn’t,it’s a ford 🤷🏻♂️
i own a 2020 F150 V8 5.0 the dealership replaced the engine 6 weeks ago after that i have all kinds of problems, AC not blowing cold air, and now i have charge system fault warning , i check the battery and alternator both are good, truck off battery voltage is little over 12 and truck running i have 14:75 and now Steering wheel is so hard to turn and heater only works in low speed, my truck only has 57000 miles what a garbage FORD dealership they damage my truck and they do not want to fixed, i never have any of this problems before the Engine replacement, i don't know what to do now whit this truck.
Here's my question - what kind of idiot takes their vehicle to the dealership before not simply plugging something back in
No clue but I'm glad they didn't or I wouldn't have been able to fund this to give them some info
It's not really good to do this kind of stuff to your dealer technician because our time is valuable also so if you try to hide things that you're doing it just makes our life a living hell
The average idiot
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start ,stop is lazy engineering . Instead of targeting efficiency. They come up with this BS
Vehicle buyers are fed up with manufactures features that we have no use for. It's getting to the point that Ford is producing a Computer that has 4 wheels, and that the products are designed as a throw-a-way device. The day will soon come when Ford decides to stop support for the software that runs the vehicle, and at that point the value of the vehicle is now $0. You may not be able to drive the vehicle you paid for, yet Ford decides how long they will allow you to drive it. It will be a society that you will never own anything, and like it. You may be stuck with a vehicle you still making payments on yet the vehicle is no longer operates. Ford decided you are no longer allowed to drive the vehicle you own.
I recall the airbag problem with my Ford Mustang 2008. A recall that occurred 3 times for airbag replacement. There were no replacements, yet the owner was give the only options to park the car, or take you chance that in an accident the airbag deployment might kill you from the metal fragments. Never was an option to turn off the airbag while waiting for a replacement airbag. Buying a new Ford is becoming more difficult. You either submit to total control by Ford and its ownership, or you keep your old model and hope their will be parts to keep it running. I expect to see customers to choose not to buy new, resulting in more like you would see in Cuba of automotive junk on wheels.
Ford no longer is building Ford Tough, or Job One. Nothing like forced obsoletion while driving up the cost of owning and driving. I won't be a customer much longer, and it wont be in an electric vehicle.
There are other safer ways to shut these off and I can show you if you'd like
Thanks for showing me where the plug that needs to be disconnected is in order to get rid of the auto start stop feature.
I have other videos showing how to disable the auto start stop the smart way instead of this ignorant way if you'd be less of a smart.azz and look
I appreciate the info but you sound more sympathetic to Ford than to customers. It sounds pretty unanimous that owners of vehicles do not want start stop activated by default upon start up. That's Ford's issue--not ours and you should be an advocate for consumers instead of taking into a more corporate shill mentality... And I mean that with as little offense as possible. This is a problem of Ford's creation. I don't see you commenting on the effects of start stop on starters, battery, engine, etc long term which will really suck once owners' warranties expire. The real advice should be, plug that sucker back in before you take it in for service. Or better yet, you personally should use this experience as a learning example and integrate it into your diagnostic process that way you won't have to waste time and threaten people with charging them for time. By the way I'm a body tech and I respect you guys but I think you need to rethink your role a bit unless you enjoy manufacturers telling you how to enjoy products you buy with your hard earned money.
If you would take a second to do the research on the channel and look at the other videos and see how I've been harassed because of this very video here and how very poor at best it is for people like you not seeing the sincerity of how I put this video out and then still saying it seems like I'm trying to team up with Ford here is complete bulshit
Very simple to hit the damn button right up on the dash quit being lazy hit the button when you get in the vehicle that's it done case in point or get forscan and the OBD link EX dongle and program the damn auto start-stop out of the vehicle you can do it at home yourself literally instead of unplugging things making my life more difficult or other technicians lives more difficult
I literally made several videos on this because of the stupid s*** that was being said to me I'm not trying to take up for Ford but what I'm trying to say is quit listening to dumb people on the internet they're telling you to do stuff some kind of halfway when you can find out from people like me and private how to do it the right way and make it turn off completely so you're not making my life harder at the dealership
should have a forscan deactivation for this and start in sport mode etc.. for a fee at the dealership.
Start the vehicle push button and disable auto start stop what is so hard about that
If the auto start stop is federally mandated, how have they been able to sell the trucks without this feature during the chip shortage? Seen several F150s on the lot with a $50 credit for auto stop delete in the last couple months.
I didn't really mean federally mandated and when I meant was the manufacturers registering these vehicles federally for EPA standards but that's not the point the point is you're causing More Problems by doing this stupid s*** when you can just bring it to me and I could program the stuff out of the truck I even have video showing people how to buy the program and then program it out of the truck so it doesn't even think that it was ever built with it and it doesn't cause problems
@@FordBossMe it was just a question, not a judgement. Didnt mean to rile you up.
Ford did me a favor and deleted the auto start/stop on my '23 F150.
I hade 2 Ford with start stop system. I juste turned off when start it.
Thanks for the info but in all honesty Fortune stop doing shit like this. All this is is just bowing down to the tree-huggers that think this is going to save the planet when the plane is not in jeopardy. The only thing I hate about it is trying to turn left or right when you're stopped in the engine is cut off. Yes the engine picks back up pretty quick but if you're already on a hill or something like that and trying to turn into a road you have no power steering. I have not and probably will not disable it but it sucks.
This ain't about the tree-huggers this is about people getting f***** over by the dealership because they're doing stuff that they're not supposed to be doing to their vehicles and then causing frustration with diagnosing things and then they get mad when we tell them three hours is getting charged to them because of the modifications they did to their vehicle under warranty
It's pretty simple if you have an issue with your vehicle in the way of reforms grab a computer by forscan program the s*** out of it or complain to the manufacturer that's it don't make my job harder because of what you don't like because if you think you have that mindset and you have the right to do that then I'm going to charge you a bunch of money and when you don't pay you lose your vehicle and a mechanic's lien gets put on the vehicle
Thanks for telling us which harness to unplug. Now I just need to remember to plug it back in before taking my truck to the dealership to avoid confusing the techs.
Much appreciated
Also unplugging this connector causes communication issues with lighting control module b...and the smart touch handles and the electronic tailgate release
Just leave it alone or buy a product called forscan and disable it through the computer
It's 20 bucks for the doggle and it's ten bucks for a year subscription or 50 bucks for a lifetime subscription and do it the right way instead of this hack way
@@FordBossMe so Forscan can disable start/stop? Do you know about the 2021+?
@@Terminxman supposedly you're supposed to be able to disable it through the cluster on those now I can't tell you that for sure because I don't do that and I don't go looking for it and the last one I even tried to look at it was a fleet vehicle and you could go through the screen to disable it but it would never disable
@@Terminxman yes I've heard of guys disabling start-stop with forscan
@@Terminxman you guys have to remember as well you're asking a dealer technician how to disable things that I shouldn't be telling you how to disable so please be conscious of that so I don't get in trouble
As much as I spent on 1 vehicle, this is BS. This guy says give back to the community but, they don't appreciate our money or time.
First of all you're going to have to watch how you're going to be sarcastic here on this channel but just remember I'm the director here I'm not going to let somebody come here and just talk s*** because they can when you learn to be respectful I'll give you some more time but I actually made many follow-up videos to this because of stupid people like you
2021 Ford F-150 XLT Sport. My AUTO START/STOP has failed on its own. Icon (white)illuminates on the dashboard, but the engine never shuts off (icon never turns green). Now more problems have reared their ugly head. Interior lights only work occasionally, reverse sensor has changed notification tone, exterior perimeter lighting works occasionally. Dealer wants 3-5 days for analysis of the problems. I was told not to worry about it, it is a convenience option! New 2022 F-150's have this feature cancelled on the window sticker (Delete Auto Start/Stop -$50). Check it out.
So here's the thing you can either reset the BMS the battery monitor system and see if everything comes back by turning the key on but not starting the vehicle flashing the brights five times stepping on the brake three times and letting go and then watching the battery light flash a couple times about 10 seconds later and sometimes that brings everything back on board
We've been having a lot of brand new truck battery issues where the vehicles with just three or 400 miles on them already have bad batteries
@@FordBossMe Thanks. I'll try it.
First person admit the start stop feature is just another EPA hoax 😊
I work on Ford sync and audio systems at multiple dealers, I have seen many paper clips shoved into the back of the auto start switch.
I have a low tolerance for stupid, so I probably would charge for my time. Hell, as you said, you can spend a couple hours chasing this down.
The best way to circumvent the start/stop feature is to not buy a ford truck to begin with.
Ford trucks are garbage for a reason.
I wish I could say what you're saying is true but it's not because then you go to another problem somewhere else that's worse where you could just take this to me I can charge you a half hour and I can disable everything with the computer permanently
I hope you’re trying to be sarcastic for job protection purposes. This is an excellent way to disable the stop/stop !! I realize as a ford mechanic they do not pay very well on repair costs but customer related this is a great way to quit the start stop if applying a trailer adapter is not favorable. It’s simple, unplug it everything works except the trailer brakes and auto start/ stop . If you need the trailer lights then plug back in. Maybe, possibly some models have other features involved but I have a 2018 f-150 XLT (big screen , heated seats, locking tailgate , door lock controls ect) unplugging that particular plug ONLY effects the auto start / stop and trailer brakes. I do not haul a trailer so therefore this was the best option for me. If in doubt, refer to your electronic schematics and find out for yourself. Sorry you had to waste time on diagnosis if you didn’t already realize this was an easy fix…
I'll make another video tonight on this explaining AGAIN
I understand that the auto start stop issue is a federal guidelines now due to the emissions..... I understand that and I can respect the intent behind it.......
Now just tell me how to deactivate the damn GPS...
Get the forscan program for your computer it's like 50 bucks and buy the obd link ex dongle and then Google forscan f150 auto start stop deactivate and follow the programming directions
@@FordBossMe
What does that have to do with the GPS?
good info i just push the button on my 2019 f150
My grandfather has a base model...so unplugging it wont be an issue.
Just program it out
OR
we can unplug the damn thing then wait and see if we have any issues.
Easy Peezy
Fresh and squeezy.
Nobody what you do is you go to my video where I show you how to use the computer and what software and program to buy that only cost you $100 so that way you can use it on your vehicle for other projects in the future and program it out of there the right way so you don't cause issues
Well, yes the Auto Start/Stop is a PITA especially if you have mostly short distance and city driving with lots of stops and red lights. The engine is not even getting warm and all these cold starts cannot be good for the engine and nature as well. Too bad it is required by the law so that the manufacturer can get the required ratings to advertise with. Also customer is paying less taxes here since it is partially emission based.
I just use the "Auto Start/Stop Disable button" each time I start my vehicle. Nothing easier than that.
That way the engine gets a chance to get warm and the related parts get a better life expectancy.
Ford introduced the Start/Stop feature but it seems they failed to also put in stronger/more reliable starters for higher wear. I have read of a good amount failing rather early.
Do you see any of that in NA models?
Disabling this feature makes me think of people doing everything to disable the seatbelt reminder chime because they don't like to wear a seat belt. Although later one is more like applying for the Darwin Award.
I don't like the design indeed, actually I have not experienced a Auto Start Stop Failure in my care yet so I wouldn't be a good person to comment on the failure part but it does make sense. if the vehicle exhibits 10 events where it functions its supposed to disable
Auto stop will not work when cold
I think we all understand that your time is valuable and there aren't enough hours in the day but this could all be addressed by Ford simply allowing customers to have the dealer flash the pcm and turn that feature off. We all know with forscan we can do it so why doesn't the dealer do it. I would even pay for this to be turned off and when flashed it voids nothing as it's a check box item.
I do it for the customers I bought my own private programming and data link so I can program it out of the system for them
Where are you located? I'm in New Jersey and it's the #1 thing that aggravates the hell out of me with my truck
Whats cheaper the fuel you use at a stop or a 1500 starter that fails after your warranty runs outs?
You pay 1500 for a starter?
That auto/start stop is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever seen. What does it actually save you in gas? About a teaspoon? We've got that on our 2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk and I hate it! On my Jeep someone posted that there is a secondary wire going to the battery that can be disconnected. Someone also posted that if you plug a trailer plug into the hitch, it will defeat the auto start/stop.
Thanks for clearing this up for me because I was about to go out and pull that plug under the dash but they’re have to hearing what you went through and I do have all the power options such as tailgate and hand door handle lock I don’t wanna deal with that so I’ll just leave it alone and push the button on the dash when I don’t want it on.
I seen allot of comments about a a button that turns off the start/stop issue but that you have to turn it off everytime you start the truck... Can somebody tell me where is at? I dnt mind doing it everytime I start the truck. I have a 2022 F150 XL 5.0 engine regular cab
On the F-150 has its up on the dash in the center and it has the letter A, you push it and it disables the auto start-stop on Startup when you physically push it
But it turns back on after you key cycle off you have to do it each time you get in the vehicle
@@FordBossMe thank you so much brother!! I just bought it yesterday, gna mess with it today. I'm subscribing, I'm a Ford fan 👍
@@FordBossMe it was that easy... Dnt know why people would want to disconnect and mess with things when they can just push a button each time you turn the truck on. Anyways good looking out with the fast reply
so what if i have a problem with auto stop making my car die at lights? either dies as soon as auto stop engages or it'll try to restart and cant leaving me stuck for a couple mins till it starts.
2014 chevy malibu
Idk with those, might be a faulty starter
What about the plug on the negative battery terminal? Lots of people are unplugging it as well and says it stops it? Is that the true plug for it?
Some people are unplugging that sensor and they're saying it's stopping it some people are buying the disable or switch online that goes behind the button that makes it think that you want it turned off all the time what I've been doing for my customers I've actually been just going in and programming it out completely with a program called forscan
@@FordBossMe I just read into it more and that plug is for the negative side sensor for the battery monitor system. Unplugging that puts the bms into a fault mode that keeps the charging system at full output non stop. It add additional strain to the engine(added drag from alternator) that will result in lower efficiency from the engine but not enough to worry about. With the bms in fault mode auto start stop won’t work as it thinks it needs to charge the battery even if the battery is fully charged.
So really it's a bad idea as well.
Thanks for your video. I do not like the ASS feature but am a simple guy and will just push the button, but I would respect Ford more if they just
Got rid of it in future models.
The only CORRECT way to do this is to get a dongle (for about ~$90) that goes between the switch and the wiring harness that will let you turn the ASS off OR back on. It just remembers where you had it set. Turn it back on if you're going to the dealer and they will never know it's there, it will act exactly like it is supposed to.
The name of it is "Auto Stop Eliminator".
Wow man this is actually a really great video thank you. I've been looking at buying a 2022 Hyundai Tucson and it has auto start stop but it also has a button that will disable that but you have to push it every time you turn the car on so you know if I get in my car in the morning I can start the car hit the button and it will disable the auto start stop but then I have to push that button every time I get into the car.
It really shows a lot of integrity that you're telling people about this good on ya man.
Yes, that is the problem. It is always an opt out feature. It should be an Opt In set up.
I’ve got a 2018 Platinum and after a long highway drives it fails to restart at the next intersection start/stop shuts the engine off - THAT is a PITA!
I don't like that auto start-stop shit
I wonder if you took one of those trailer connectors and plugged it into the trailer plug-in if that would have eliminate enough for you on your long drives
Just to get that auto start stop to stay off
Auto Boss I’m going to try this today - th-cam.com/video/Qf0dQEUg9VQ/w-d-xo.html
@@FordBossMe It will ... one of those with the LED lights. but it also disables the back-up camera and obstacle alert. And your "towing odometer" rolls. LOL.. It's ridiculous!
very good information... thank you very much to you
Auto Boss ... thanks for abstaining on sending us the bill for your time on this video.
If this is as prevalent as you're reporting ... folks disabling ASS mode ... someone needs to wake-up and understand this system is UNDESIRED. ASS mode is for the manufacture not the person who OWNS the vehicle. The system, as you've noted with your billable time in labor troubleshooting, isn't free. It costs money and that's to the OWNER, not the tech, not the manufacturer.
It's a system which can/will fail.
I discovered this on a 2017 I bought. Wasn't informed about this system. Was unaware of it. Shutdown happened almost immediately. TH-cam to the rescue. As you state, correctly, unplugging the connector did have other effects ... no trailer lights on my XLT. SMH!!!!
You seem to be a great tech and I appreciate those. Withhold the sermon about warranty. I never want a warranty. I want my product to perform as advertised ... which should include a significant change to the operation of the vehicle like THIS one.
I operate with the connector unplugged. Works great lasts a long time. The 2 times a year my 1/2 ton pulls a little trailer, I reconnect it. Trailer towing is for one ton diesels (of which I have also).
Have a great one out there.
So your comment is kind of like really difficult to understand because it seems like you're being genuine but then being a smart-ass at the same time so I'm just going to make a small comment and then I'm going to move on because I don't have time to sit and decipher what people really mean when they're playing word games
I do what I do because I like being honest with people and I share things as I figure them out that maybe other people don't know
Now depending on the model the options and how your truck is set up things may be affected differently
You a consumer of a F150 you may be fine, you may be just fabulous and doing things a certain way that fit for you but I work on these things daily and I don't share things just on one video I share things on thousands of videos and people gain from them greatly.....Some respect to me the one putting in the work would be great
In this video I was only honest about what could happen and these vehicles shod operate the way the manufacturer intends them to based on regulations that have been put on them
You do what you do but what I don't understand is why you wanted to come to somebody else's Channel and leave your information here and it's really not needed.
who has time for someone's shit comments? Not me
@@FordBossMe OK dude. I was sincere. perhaps snarky about the bill ... but you sought it with the repetitive references to a service charge for troubleshooting a malfunction that was as simple as a connection disabled. I mean ... the reader you connected to download the codes ... right next to the unplugged connector. So ...
Consider addressing the reason for the auto start stop. It's not for the customer. It's not even for real world emissions control. It's a perception that the company is complying with an arbitrary mileage requirement. When your best seller is a truck ... your overall fleet mileage rating is gonna need some help ...
this is akin to the VWgate (and I loved that btw), but before I get accused of another excrement comment ...
Why comment? To give a greater understanding. I was curious as to the "why" in your video title. nothing more than features disabled. No way it harms the vehicle/systems in any way, so the presumption of violating a warranty is ridiculous. Which is probably why a typical dealership would seek to so cite for refusing a warranty repair.
you have a nice day.
First of all you said at the end as to " why "
and this video explains why
so by you re questioning why after I've already said why that just makes me think that this is all a shitshow to begin with
You obviously didn't watch the whole video or maybe you didn't obtain the information because you already had some kind of other agenda on your mind and you didn't clearly hear what I talked about in this video
which I clearly broke it down on why I could have charged back for my time because of customer modification
Now just because that connector is sitting right next to the The old port doesn't mean it's that easy to get these systems to cooperate sometimes
Sometimes it takes multiple times of going back into the computer and clearing codes out because they just won't clear out right away so there has to be more to this that you understand rather than just passing Judgment at surface-level if you don't do what I do
Plus you're not automatically going to think the reason for all the problems is because the the customer on plugged trailer lights to the ABS module to disable the auto start-stop so if you're having other issues you're going to be looking at other things first which takes time
Now when these vehicles come in I automatically look there but also I need to be compensated for my time
if I plug something back in and have to hook up a computer to clear the codes that's not a freebie there ain't nothing in life is free it's still charged so where you get this whole mindset that things are supposed to be given away because it's under warranty boggles my mind
@@FordBossMe if unplugging the connection is happening so often you deemed it beneficial to make a video about it, why not start there with troubleshooting? No, you replaced a component first. I can do that and I'm just a ne'er do well.
Who's assuming what of another now? RE warranty freebie.
So again, if this is happening so often, perhaps the next production year, manufacturer would have woken-up ... but that presumes in this example, it's about the best product for the customer when it's really about "dithering" a data point to comply with an arbitrary requirement from government.
Oh ... my VW comment ... I dropped the ball on that one. It could be taken that I loved the almost 20 billion judgement. Insane! ... I loved VW's answer. It's our bought-paid-for government's emission limitation which was foul, just as this arbitrary requirement for an overall mileage average. Someone doesn't want motor vehicle diesels in less than a 3/4 Ton truck chassis. Look it up on the EPA's website on NOX allowances. The chart screams that truth. Proportional reduction with GVR ... until less than 7K lbs. Then the max drops like a lead balloon. Hmm???
The NOX limit and the "fleet mileage" requirement ... neither relevant to to suck/squeeze/bang/blow design improvement.
so your video would have been better with about 6 minutes less time and simply state: "when you pull this plug to disable auto start stop, there's a cascade of effects ... you can thank your government for ASS mode. Have a good day"
done. But we got a sermon on time spent troubleshooting and warranty work. I expect this will be rejected as well ... because I started this entire thing with a snark to rebut the main point you had ... now you're miffed.
OBD receptacle ... literally in plain sight of said connector. That's all.
@@shaark92 first of all when you hook up that OBD Port you've been in and out of these vehicles so much you don't get down and look up underneath the dash to see if something's unplugged your whole thinking process on that Port being so close you should see the connector being unplugged is so flawed it's unreal and a lot of us we have this muscle memory on where the connector is now we don't get down and look underneath the dash we just reach down and plug it in cuz we already know where it's at
Second of all I did specify in my return comment to you that this is a normal thing now I checked that because of how often it is so I'm not sure where half of your comment comes from because I've already specified why
I made a video in response to comments like yours to explain what I go through on a daily basis and people like you coming to this channel to leave comments you need to wake up and realize a little bit more of what we go through
th-cam.com/video/IUW3zfXYX_s/w-d-xo.html
how do you set the date on a 2010 f-150 xl supercab date not time
I don't really know I'd have to have it in front of me to show you and I can figure it out for you but I don't have one sitting here in front of me
Yea if the button would remain off..
Good video. I'll be checking your other out. Thanks for making this.
I have a 2015 F150 with a 5.0 V8. I love this truck. Only 75K on her and only had to do oil changes, brake pads and front vacuum hub actuators. I absolutely hate start stop along with cylinder deactivation. I get 17-18 mpg in my F150 and I am happy with this.
I have three Fords, but I'll lean to another vehicle or company that does not force this on me.
Totally agree with you! Tried this on my xlt, everything is fine, no auto stop start, no cel, but after I scanned for codes, several showed up including steering module etc etc. Plugged back in and will use the deactivate button for now.
Thank you for that and I appreciate your honesty. A lot of people like to come on here and argue with me because they don't like Ford's design but they don't like when I tell them the truth about what's going on
I'm just here trying to help people navigate this thing we call life and save them some money in the process
That's what it's there for.
@@FordBossMe You still need to feed your family, so charge these idiots for your time.
I had a Mazda CX-3 and wedged a piece of card between it and another switch - worked a treat - will try it on my Puma - the problem with some of these so called cures they require you to do various button pushed that are more than the one to deactivate it using the supplied off button - there are some much more annoying things going on in the car than this.. I have chimes that I cannot adjust the volume, there is a gui for the seat belts that appears at startup whether the belts are on or off and you have to press OK on the steering for it to go away..
hello sir I have my 2016 f-150 and it won’t start after I took off the rear break mode off and it try’s to crank up but it won’t start but I have a push start and it’s really difficult for me to figure out what’s the problem.
I won't buy a car that has auto start stop.
I’ve an 18 xl model, I just turned off the auto star/stop through the settings on the dash with the steering wheel buttons and now I don’t have to push the button every time. Pretty simple. I hate assuming, but is this NOT an option on all pickups?
On the new Ranger the start stop feature is disabled by plugging in a $2 night light into the AC plug that is between the front seats in the back.
Good to know. I'll try that in our Jeep.
Interesting. I'll try that on my 2018 F150. Thx
Take it out from the motherboard.
It's really not hard to push the A button, I mean you push the button to start it, so for me it's not that big of a deal to just push another button! Thanks for the info! ♥️♥️♥️
Does not go against warranty to unplug something bud lol especially auto start stop I looked it up
False
True I checked with my Ford dealer hahaha you pass false information
Nice idea to mess with that BCM...Then wonder why stuff stops working...
Why you check other peoples idea.. As they pay no price when they are wrong..You do...
If you would have taken it for a test drive first , you would have known the auto stop start was not working, dude!
What does that have to do with any of this?
The auto start stop can disable for many reasons and if the customer is not complaining lots of times you won't know
Do better
Watch the other videos in the library and learn something
Where can i find this module on a 2019 f150 5.0 xlt im having the same issues that the pcm cant connect with rear lights
Look at my other videos on the lights, type in
Ford Boss f150 lights and see what happens
Yes I did this on my 2017 f150 and roughly 2 months later I hooked up to my trailer and the trailer turn lights wouldn’t work, took about 1/2 hr to figure out what I did, just push the dam button. Good topic
Ive since did a few more videos on this youll find in my library
Type in Auto Start Stop
Soooo this is why my trailer brakes don't light up hahahaha. The running lights come on but no brakes or blinkers.
The T harness will remember to shut it off for you, its like having the truck press the button for you
No alterations made, works great