Yes, but no. If you look at the overall image you see she doesn't stand straight in front of the camera. Her right eye is closer to the camera, but they showed the left eye. It still looks like her nose is in focus, but maybe, just maybe het right eye is too.
@@TheSlantedLens would have to disagree! I’ve used the R6 shooting 4K for a short documentary, a wedding, music videos & vlogs and hasn’t overheated on me once! It’s all about the way you shoot video. To say “the R6 does not work for video” is biased based off a particular shooting style, in my opinion. I love it for video
Im using the R6 as a b-cam (on a gimbal) as well as photography. I actually got the R initially but decided to exchange it because of the cropping in 4K, internal 10-bit, the button layout which just didn’t feel right as well as the upgrade in terms of autofocus. Ibis and dual card slot.
The 'R' is never "better" in any one area but is very "competitive" depending upon the user's needs. The real "winner" in this test is the R6 with a balanced performance and value. Now, if a product shuts down it's simply NOT a professional grade product. Do roofers climb up on a house knowing their electric nailer will quit after 20 minutes? NO! Either put software "limiters" (e.g, 10 minute run times which most users would accept) or remove such nonsense Canon calls "features".
it shuts down but it will let you shoot 1080p. tbh long form video in 4k is just gonna be too much storage. not to mention 1080p on the r6 still has clog and 10 bit and ibis which will contribute more to the final product than just 4k. it sucks but in the end, it comes down to personal choice.
Not sure why reviewers insist on shooting video with these devices. A Canon EOS C100 would blow any DSLR at a much lower price point. The reason why still cameras overheat is simple physics. Do the math how much bandwidth is needed to shoot 4K at 24p, and the energy expended. Then one would realize the processing on the device needs more cooling.
Still have my R and I'm satisfied with it. I felt that I didn't need the FPS or the other features that the R5 and R6 have. Instead I invested in all RF glass and I couldn't be more happier with my results. 90% of my work is portraits and my subjects are posed.
Still loving my R, hard to justify either the R5 or R6 for my main application (tripod talking head shots for TH-cam videos). I'd like to be able to do 4K without a crop and have higher frame rates for some use cases, but the price difference doesn't make it worth it to me. Great cameras all around, I can see why some people would go with the R5 and R6 and not even consider the R.
The first shot is not comparable. The focus is different. With that said you can attribute that to software/technology difference in the cameras/lenses. The eye auto focus in the R5 and R6 is superb.
Thanks for confirm that I made the right choice! After extensive research for a couple months, I did exactly as this video suggested. I bought the R then laid out a small fortune for several L series lenses. RF 14-35 f/4/, RF 24-105 f/4, RF 100-500 f/4-f/7.1 with a 1x4 extender, and the surprisingly fun (albeit not an L glass) RF 35 f/1.8 lens. This set up suits me well as I rarely do video unless it's just for fun with friends and family. My primary subjects are landscapes, nature scenes and wildlife. I am confident that none of my images would benefit in any substantial way had they be taken by the R6 or the R5. The R provides all the precision and details I need.
Why do they keep saying the R is better because it doesn't overheat? The R only does cropped 4K 30. The R5 does full frame 4K 120 and will also do FULL FRAME 4K 30 with NO overheating limits.
To add to that, if you shoot cropped 4K on the R5, you get less of a crop than the R, downsampled 5.5K footage, and no overheating at 4K 30. This video was just a bit deceitful with the overheating conversation.
Agreed, I have both the R and R5, and the R5 shoots WAY better video in every way. Better sharpness, better low light, image can take more grading at 10 bit, less (or no) crop factor, IBIS, better body and controls, better autofocus, less rolling shutter, and all these features apply to the modes that don't overheat. Whatever modes have a chance of eventually overheating aren't even available on the R... Besides that, the 8K, 4K 60p, 4k 120, and 4K HQ look stunning and leave the R far behind. The R is lighter and cheaper, that's about it. I like these guys but maybe they should stick with photos.
@@rudyvanos what’s your take in regards to overall photo quality? I don’t really shoot video, but I’m looking to upgrade from my 80D to an EOS R. Is it worth shelling out the extra money and just getting the R5? I shoot eveything, wildlife, portraits, landscapes, macro. I understand that there’s many factors that apply to answering this question haha, but be it that you have both the R and the R5 I thought I’d ask your opinion. Thanks Rudy 🙏
@@Loki_Highlock I’m surely not the best person to answer this. But I would not recommend to upgrade to the R5 just for stills, too expensive. There are many other investments, like lenses, tripods, that will give you a better picture. But if money is not an issue, then yes sure this is an excellent photo camera, ways better then the 80d (I had 70d). Finally think if you need the megapixels for print etc. If not then there are plenty of fine cameras (like your 80d) that will look almost as good on screens.
You forgot the R6 won your tests and can do cropped video 4k and 1080p at the same level as the R without overheating too. The only way the R wins over the R6 is in the cost of the camera. I own or have owned both of these camera and I prefer the R6 to the R for performance however I do think the R is a great value for the money.
I agree with most of this however the R5 won’t overheat in most modes - Canon addressed this. 1080p won’t overheat, 4K (non HQ won’t overheat). So it’s really not a huge deal anymore. And even if it does overheat, you can still flip to a lower resolution and keep shooting. I also know a cinematographer who shot an entire Vegas desert wedding in 8K raw, and didn’t overheat once.
Exactly and the cropped-mode 4k oversampled mode doesn't overheat as well. Is it perfect? No, but I will take the other superior features of the R5 over the R since I can at least fall back to another still very good mode if needed, but you aren't going to give the R better features - it is stuck with the capabilities it currently has.
Oddly enough - my R5 gets rather warm just doing stupid s__t like a timelapse if we're talking long exposure times... it doesn't shut down or do anything stupid, but, you can def. feel the heat of the thing, even if it's sitting in the shade!
I won't be going away from my R anytime soon.... unless the coming R3 is just too badass to ignore. The differences between the R and R5 aren't big enough and don't justify the extra coin for the "upgrade" for me.
The first comparison one of the shots was missfocused and the following shots are all over the place on focus. It's kind of hard to take reviewers serious that can't even focus correctly. "It's just a test shot" you might say. Yes it is. But it's also about presenting your test in the best way. Using blurry or missed focused images just makes you seem like you don't care. Then again you are the same guys that said that the Sony A7RIV was a better mirrorless camera for video than the Canon R5, wich you called "a total trainwreck for video" (without posting any evidence or source to this, frankly insane statement). Been following this channel for years. And have enjoyed many nice videos. But lately you seem to be smoking something over there at TSL.
Yes. Defenetly agree. They need better control in their testing. Some of the shots where even taken at different distance and framing. It's hard to get an idea of how these cameras compare to eachother when there is no consistency. Specially when many of us rely on comparisons like this to decide what camera to buy.
@@TheSlantedLens I'm subscribed to your channel and enjoy your content. However, people at your level of expertise shouldn't make mistakes such as these. It was more than obvious on a small youtube window that the focus was on the nose and not the eye... I was waiting for you to at least mention it but you went on comparing the details with two different focus points.
What you mentioned around 10:00 about the R struggling to focus while under exposed was THE biggest technical reason I picked up an R6. Shooting anything under exposed or backlit was a nightmare with the R unless you used one shot focus or turned off exposure simulation, both negating the benefits I’d come to expect by switching to mirrorless.
The R is the most accurate focusing camera I’ve ever had and I’ve had many but when the wedding reception hits its like a dinosaur and I’m back to my 5d3 which outperforms it with the ir beam on the speedlite. Is this issue fixed with the R6?
@@myronhensel the R6 is considerably more confident to track in low light compared to the EOS R. Also when it temporarily raises the exposure during One Shot in order to grab focus it does so much more quickly than the EOS R does. Plus you can program each back button to recall a unique focusing preset (like tracking/servo on one button and one shot single point on another button) so beyond the focus actually working more quickly, you also save precious seconds swapping focusing modes with the R5/R6 when compared to the R/RP
The only "Issue" i have with my R is in portrait usage the EV shuts on and off even having the screen thumb area top right / bottom right in landscape. I am blown away with the studio work am am doing with the R
Not true, there is a setting in the menu to control the EVF. The settings are AUTO & MANUAL. I shoot in portrait mode with my R religiously, EVF doesn't shut off unless I ask it to.
Upgraded from the R to the R6 and delighted with all the benefits, FPS and autofocus I see a big difference👌🏻 You are right though glass all the way, I finished the RF trinity rather than getting the R5 and your test helps me feel better about my decision!
@@Elazarko it really depends what you shoot. You should buy RF glass if possible, 16-35 is EF, the 15-35 2.8 is RF and is part of the trinity and I find it very good. I got the RF 24-70 2.8, RF 70-200 2.8 and RF 50 1.2 first as I would use them more. The 70-200 and 50 are my favourite. In my opinion the 24-70 RF is the best general use lense and the one I use most, I find the 24-105 a little limiting as F4 and 28-70 RF 2.0 is too big and heavy, 24-70 is very close in image quality to 28-70 and when I really need low light or bokeh 50 1.2 is a lot better than both. New RF 50 1.8 would be a great cheap starting option, only RF native long zoom is 100-500 RF at the moment although you can adapt Tamron or Sigma glass. Hopefully they will be making native RF glass in the next year or so. Try save and buy the best glass you want as it will last much longer than bodies, also RF mount is only new so will be around for years so better buying native glass. I learnt this lesson years ago when shooting Nikon DSLR’s buy cheap glass, buy twice. Although no harm having a few cheap lenses so you can throw on for holidays etc. Happy shooting 📷
@@nivin3 to be honest I'm not sure. I usually only ever shoot Raw, but tried jpegs on R6 recently and really liked the skin tones straight out of it and find them a little more life like than the R which was nice too but I found made people more sallow than they really are. I use capture one to process Raw's, I moved from lightroom a few years back and find the starting point including colours/skin tones more similar to jpeg than lightroom but obviously still need a litte adjusting.
I had both R and R5 cameras at the same time for a while, I ended up selling my R because, no it's not better than R5 or R6. The R is wonderful, and I almost kept it as a backup because it is a really good camera, but alas R5 all-around really does beat out the R. Autofocus both for people and animals, subject tracking, focus bracketing, low light, drive mode FPS, just insane too many good features to count on the R5. Now bang for the buck, if you need to save money, the R is the winner then, you can't lose with an R.
Just purchased an R mainly because of the 30 megapixels and didn't need the video capabilities. BUT, the R6 autofocus works better according to this video and I may have reconsidered had I seen this video before the purchase. But for the R body and 2 Canon RF lenses the budget won out and I'm glad I made the purchase!
Thanks for this comparative review. I own the R and agree with you about the glass, for me the differences in cameras is not enough to upgrade my R. After purchasing the 24 -70 2.8 RF and attaching to my R, I cannot imagine anything better and my EF 70 - 200m. 2.8 with the adapter looks film grade. When I've purchased the RF 15-35mm 2.8 then I'll make the move to what's available at that time. So my trinity will be set and ready. ;)
The R is not equal to the R5 or R6. That said, the R still has terrific image quality, and with the firmware update, the autofocus was substantially improved. With the price sometimes coming to $1200 refurbished on Canon USA - it's a terrific value and still a great camera for many applications - I plan to buy one. If you plan to shoot long clips of 4K video do NOT try to do it on a standard mirror less (any manufacturer) it will overheat! Buy a Panasonic S1h or a true video camera WITH A FAN if you intend to shoot a lot of 4K video.
Very nice! Took an atypical position and supported it with reasonable examples. The R is useful, but man that R6 looks like the best-kept secret in the Canon mirrorless lineup.
I've both R and R5 and for a reason the image quality, colours and white balance are still more pleasant for my eye on the old-papa R. So, for still images R remains an excellent choice event these days at 2024.
I got my R5 just before christmas and will say that it is the best camera I have ever used. It is the Camera I have been waiting for and I am completely ecstatic with the performance of the R5 in every metric.
@@TheSlantedLens Exactly. I'd been on the lookout for something that does better in low light, but I don't think the improvement to the R6 and R5 is enough for me to jump.
...on the eos r you can adjust the picture style and detail pops up :) ...regarding video the R5 does overheat ... and in the end yes, I kept the R and sold the R5, and I'm still not sure I'll upgrade to R5II or R5c anytime soon...
I'm a full time pro commercial photographer. I used the R as my primary body for about 6 months. It performs adequately but for corporate events it just feels really sluggish (in those cases I end up switching to my Mk IV which handles like a dream compared to the R). I've since upgraded to the R6 and it's much, much better at events -- just overall speedier and the AF is better for sure. It's not perfect but very good. I still use my Mk IV for some things and keep the R around if I need to shoot a video interview (seems really good for that).
I’m experiencing the same issue with my R for events, especially wedding receptions with party lighting it’s like a dinosaur. My 5f3 outperforms it with the ir beam from the speedlite. It doesn’t sound like the R6 is on par autofocus wise compared to the 5d3/5d4 for some event party work. Is it?
Everyone compromises. The overheating issue is no a technical incompatibility issue which makes the camera overheat. It is Canons unwillingness to compete with their own Cine cameras!
My R6 died from heat. Not just shut down to cool. Died. Cooked itself after 17 minutes. destroyed the audio at 14 mins, then completely died and had to be returned to Canon for 8 weeks. It was a mild 22ºC morning. The 10-18 EFS lens fits, so you can shoot wide.
Does the lens you were using not have IS? I'm presuming it's the RF 50mm which doesn't. An RF24-105 doesn't need IBIS. Even in 4K, and especially with software stabilisation turned on, which I never have.
Maybe it's just my eyes, but in the comparison @1:39 looks like the focus point is a tiny little bit different on the R. The nose is in focus and the eye socket looks a little bit blurred to me due to a different focus distance. R6 and R5 shows the focus more towards the eye socket and the nose is a little bit blurred. I'm probably wrong as I'm watching on mobile, but if I noticed on a mobile there's probably something in there.
I'm moving from a Canon 90D to a Canon R6 Mark II, which I ordered, and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I have a question for you. Would you recommend the R at a lower price to get me into the mirrorless system and purchase some good RF glass? This would allow me to purchase 2 R bodies, or should I stick with the R6 Mark II and use my EF glass with an adapter until I can get some good RF glass?
imo the R6 looked best overall, abit dark and the pink top was abit werid compared to the other two at the beginning. But the R5 and R6 overheat? Is there any quality benefits the R5 has over something like the eos2000d?
The R5 is a full frame sensor with a large megapixel that gives you beautiful images and good frames per second. The overheating issues have been addressed in firmware updates, so it is better. But the R5C is better for the overheating issue.
I own both The R can’t focus in low light it is a real problem otherwise work’s great. The R5 Is just majestic on everything, for me video is not primary thing because what I do are small interviews some 5 to 15 minutes at the most. No issues there. If I was doing more videos Canon C70 will be my choice. One other note I own Tamron 45 mm 1.8 and the Tamron 90 mm latest model and I use it with lens adapter for my R systems and the results are spectacular.
For a armature like me it was really good video. Thanks for showing actual photos & footages. This really helps in deciding which one is better suited for one's use. Just pulling out numbers from manufacturers & comparing never helps. Thank you very much. & Yeah to me R6 really stood out in this comparison. Best of luck.
When the Canon R5 "overheats" it means you are limited to 4k/30p max. It never prevents you from recording video completely. Basically you are locked out of 4k/60p, 4k/120p 4k/30p DownSample, and 8k/30p etc. You are never without a video camera just because it's overheated too much to use the highest quality modes.
If it doesn’t fully shut down and wait to cool down then it really doesn’t have a native overheating issue, its just that Canon doesn’t want to compete with its Cine cameras so they create these glitches! So unfair!
@@TheSlantedLens you must have inadvertently been trying to go to a mode that is limited. 4K/30p normal mode is not limited by heat, you can always get in that mode unless you’re trying to use the Downsampled 8K version. Best thing is to setup 4K/24 or 30p normal mode as one of the preset modes c1 c2 etc. I do it all the time. Once heat stops me from shooting 4K 60p or more I go to 4K 30p and shoot all I want. It locks out of trying to shift into higher modes but never the regular 4K modes.
Interesting comparison but I would say that the R6 would be the best buy. The autofocus issue with the R and I also see a slight but annoying yellow/green colour cast on the R. Saying it can be correct in post is not good enough, who wants to spend time doing that. I own an R and use to have an old 5d Mark2 (regret selling it) and I think the colours from the 5D were better straight from the camera.
Amazing that the R6 consistently outperforms the R5 across multiple YT channels, yet at the end, the R5 is recommended above it. R6 easily won this comparison and it was not recommended. Just shows the incredible bias for MP.
That’s true, but it wins in all areas. Why even do the test when you can just say, 20mp is a no go. In the actual comparison of the cameras, the R6 wins.
I think the key point here is that the R is the right camera for you. As a wedding photographer I wouldn't use a camera that didn't have dual card slots. And I need auto-focus that works as subjects move in and out of shadow and light. I don't shoot video at weddings, so the overheating is a non-issue. So for me the right choice is the R6. Great dynamic range, excellent low light performance and the amazing auto-focus make it the best camera for my needs.
The deal breaker for me among the three is the single memory card slot on the R. Next, I'm not big into the video aspect of any of the three. As there isn't any substantial differences in image quality between the R6 and the R5, I would have to go with the R6 and save a lot of money.
Great video. Nice comparisons. I used the R one time for a grad shoot and it's what made me want a R series camera. with that said: 4K60, 1080p120, and IBIS were almost enough to make me only want the R5 or 6. I concluded the 6 was the best option for me for sure. So while I hear you and you may be generally close about the R, when it comes to video most I feel videographers will only choose R6, 5, or now 3
Thanks for the review. It was informative. I always like seeing other people's real world experiences with cameras. I own both the R and R5. I find that the R is great for tripod work with proper lighting and gets the job done. The dynamic range on it is sub par next to the R5 and the fact that is has no IBIS makes it much more difficult to use if you want to go free hand. Both great cameras but since I don't shoot video the R5 easily takes the gold here.
Even a serval years later, I still love my R! Haven’t upgraded & have no plans too! But I’ve grown tired of waiting for a RF crop centered camera. Picked up and Fujifilm X4 & have fallen in love with photography all over again!
I don't care about video, rather I shoot stills. The R6 clearly looks like my best option when comparing the price to the R5. The question I have is the cropping for birds in flight shots. The birds are not always close enough to fill the frame. Would I be happy with the R6 if I have to crop stills a little?
@@TheSlantedLens On my Canon 5D MKIV, I am comfortable cropping a little for large prints with the large numbers of pixels. Shrinking the number by 2/3 may not leave enough resolution available for cropping. Remember, I can't predict how close the birds are goping to be to my camera, nor can I get closer due the unknown direction the birds will fly.
Great review , I agree totally depending on one's photographic gendre will determine the best body for you and regardless of any body the lens quality will always be the the most important single factor. lets remember Ansel Adam who taught us the most important photographic component is the one standing behind the camera-a simple point and shoot in the hands of a good photographer will trump a poor photographer with the highest and mightiest expensive gear. Thank you for your work here.
Seriously? The title says the R is better than the R6 and R5 - but the video shows that it's the worst of the three😅 anyways, I'd rather get a Nikon Z6 II - great durability, amazing IQ, top notch DR and ISO, excellent and affordable lenses. RF lenses are just HUGE and more expensive.
Nikon Z6 ii can’t track a plane lol. Now imagine a bird. Nikon has terrible autofocus. I really like there image renderings though very nice image quality. The Canon R6 has Ant eye AF it’s crazy good might want to check it out.
@@alphaandomega2709 Canon's AF is better, yes, this has been proven. However, I don't need to track neither Airplanes nor ants😅 For literally most use cases its perfectly fine/great. I don't get it why people are so obsessed with the (eye) AF topic. I've shot internationally awarded photo with my good old D610 which has only 39 AF points :) there are so much more aspects to a great camera.
I love to see this closeups comparing the three cameras but we need to know which autofocus method you’re using, most of the shots of the EOS R are focused on the nose, that’s not my experience with this camera
I’d be interested in how you brought the under and over exposures to “normal” They are very well done- what settings did you concentrate on (Lightroom or?) and did you go by the numbers in sampling parts of the image or using your color checker chart?
We take the images into camera raw and bring up the exposure, and shadows and bring down the highlights and whites. It's a little different for each image. That is the basic idea.
@@jeffellis6544 seems like when it came to shadows and highlights for fine tuning adjustment, they went with what they thought made each image look the best. Since each camera may react differently. For exposure, it seems if they exposed 2 stops below, they adjusted the exposure slider in the respective program 2 stops brighter.
in the picture quality test ( details) , the focus plane of the image from the "R" is around the nose. check the details of the nose of all the three images. 2:25
I dont have these problems on the R. Did your lens not have image stabilization? I've never lost focus on a face in video or photo with the walk shots. I use a 24-105 L lens and the 50mm ef lens and i get great shots. What did you guys do wrong?
WOW i love you guys' shirts 😍🥰 i am using an EOS R now..and very satisfied ❤️❤️ thanks for telling me i should not upgrade to R5 & R6. Just invest on better lens / glass ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
I have the EOS-R and just picked up the R5 recently. The autofocus system of the R5 is insane.. I needed a camera with dual cards and decided to go with the R5 instead of a dslr with similar.
R 5 is a great video camera, I never had an overheat situation even shooting 8K raw. Using Ninja V for video will illuminate the overheat issue. Even using it for streaming 4K HQ looks so good...
If you do still photography then the R6 is a great choice but if you do video you may have overheating issues. It also depends on lenses. The R6 has an RF lens mount so you have to use an adaptor or purchase RF lenses.
Been using R for a year, very happy except for battery duration. You absolutely need the adapter with the ring, though, or the RF glass, because it lacks physical controls
I really appreciate this video my friend. The R6 it is! I was really more concerned about the megapixels for big portrait image printing. Do you think you can do a print test on these from small to big scale? Anyway, loved your data color thing in the end! lol you're so funny
Nice try but at 1:37 the R focus is on the nose pushing the eye out of focus. The other two have the eye in focus and the nose out of focus. Sleight of hand.
Google it. There are lots of articles out there about it. They are fine for short clips. But longer filming of like 30 minutes is when you get a problem.
Hey man I'm looking at the 90d or eos r for hybrid shooting mainly photography, but also some car feature videos, which one would you recommend I go for?
Great video guys. I have a technical question: I want to use my R6 to shoot fashion shows together with a canon 70-200 F4 IS USM on a monopode AI Servo focus mode. In the past, using my 5D Mark III I simply set the stabilization mode 2 on the lens and shot. With the R6 I don´t get same result unless I disable the camera stabilization, is it normal? With the stabilizer on I get some blurred images...
Because if you use an EF IS lens, Canon will force the camera to stop stabilizing and can only use the lens stabilization system. So, I think this is a firmware bug because Canon is supposed to switch it automatically, however, it seems you need to switch it manually.
13:43 - I'm in the same boat - Went right to the R5 and it's really just NOT worth the $5000 (w/24-105 F4) if you're doing landscapes 99% of the time. Even for wildlife, the eye tracking "can" get you some shots you would miss, BUT, the main problem you run into, that's not discussed enough, is that birds usually fly in groups, well... most animals are in groups, so the eye tracking can/will jump from one to the other. I think I missed JUST as many shots on my R5 than I would with a "pos" 90d. For me personally, I think the "R" would have been the better choice, along with great glass, or heck, even some of those budget prime lenses would be just fine. I'm not pulling in TRILLIONS like everyone else seems to be with photography, and looking back through thousands of 5d1 - 4 shots, the difference is not due to the camera!! For dedicated birds / wildlife all day long the R7 is likely the way to go, unless, you're one of these jokers that wants to blow $5000-$15000 on a big white, and lug the stupid thing around all day while complaining about "getting old." I still think the 100-500 at $2700 is insane money to blow... the older 100-400 works fine, and you "can" learn to better approach birds/wildlife to make up the 100mm delta... Also - one still can do some composite work for landscapes and make up for the lower dynamic range without making it a super complex workflow as landscapes are usually static. One thing though: Why the F doesn't the "R" have an intervelometer built in? Seriously - they must have had an "off day" over at Canon when they were designing the firmware...
I don’t buy the argument that the R is the better crossover camera, and I’m an R owner! Granted, it has full quality 4k that doesn’t overheat, but it’s cropped with no stabilisation. R5 can do line skipped 4k with no overheating and that’s FULL FRAME AND STABILISED! R6 can do stabilised 1080p if the 4k overheats which suits me fine and that’s IF it overheats (remember firmware improved it a lot so that if you actually cool down the camera you get more time back). The benefits of these new cameras far outweigh the slight overheating from a crossover shooters perspective like me, I think R6 is amazing value for what it offers and can’t wait to be able to afford one or pickup one used!
Did you update firmware on R? Canon fixed and improve eye-detection capability on R. 1.8 is the latest R firmware. With that said, you wouldn't miss eye focus on R.
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Is it just me or did you focus on the nose on the R image, where as you focussed on the eye for the R5 & 6...?
2:24 Yes the focus is on the nose and not the eye.
@@lionelestriga4272 That's what I thought I saw as well.
Yupp, you are correct.
Yes, correct.
Yes, but no. If you look at the overall image you see she doesn't stand straight in front of the camera. Her right eye is closer to the camera, but they showed the left eye. It still looks like her nose is in focus, but maybe, just maybe het right eye is too.
Title fixed: The R6 Is Better Than The R And R5, See Why.
Yeah, that R6 did really well!
As a cross over camera is does not shoot video without overheating so it does not work for video.
@@TheSlantedLens I use the R6 all the time for video and it's amazing!...(corporate, music video, weddings,..).
@@TheSlantedLens would have to disagree! I’ve used the R6 shooting 4K for a short documentary, a wedding, music videos & vlogs and hasn’t overheated on me once! It’s all about the way you shoot video. To say “the R6 does not work for video” is biased based off a particular shooting style, in my opinion. I love it for video
Im using the R6 as a b-cam (on a gimbal) as well as photography. I actually got the R initially but decided to exchange it because of the cropping in 4K, internal 10-bit, the button layout which just didn’t feel right as well as the upgrade in terms of autofocus. Ibis and dual card slot.
The 'R' is never "better" in any one area but is very "competitive" depending upon the user's needs. The real "winner" in this test is the R6 with a balanced performance and value. Now, if a product shuts down it's simply NOT a professional grade product. Do roofers climb up on a house knowing their electric nailer will quit after 20 minutes? NO! Either put software "limiters" (e.g, 10 minute run times which most users would accept) or remove such nonsense Canon calls "features".
it shuts down but it will let you shoot 1080p. tbh long form video in 4k is just gonna be too much storage. not to mention 1080p on the r6 still has clog and 10 bit and ibis which will contribute more to the final product than just 4k. it sucks but in the end, it comes down to personal choice.
Well said. Thanks for sharing your point of view!
Not sure why reviewers insist on shooting video with these devices. A Canon EOS C100 would blow any DSLR at a much lower price point. The reason why still cameras overheat is simple physics. Do the math how much bandwidth is needed to shoot 4K at 24p, and the energy expended. Then one would realize the processing on the device needs more cooling.
Still have my R and I'm satisfied with it. I felt that I didn't need the FPS or the other features that the R5 and R6 have. Instead I invested in all RF glass and I couldn't be more happier with my results. 90% of my work is portraits and my subjects are posed.
Great to hear. Yeah, the glass is so important to invest in!
How does it do with moving subjects?
@@Cmm474 I shoot moving subjects just fine.
Me too. I decide invest the difference of price ( $800) in a better lense and then is huge difference. Invest more in lenses not in cameras.
Still loving my R, hard to justify either the R5 or R6 for my main application (tripod talking head shots for TH-cam videos). I'd like to be able to do 4K without a crop and have higher frame rates for some use cases, but the price difference doesn't make it worth it to me.
Great cameras all around, I can see why some people would go with the R5 and R6 and not even consider the R.
The first shot is not comparable. The focus is different. With that said you can attribute that to software/technology difference in the cameras/lenses. The eye auto focus in the R5 and R6 is superb.
Great point. Thanks for watching!
yeah but then in the second shot the R6 one is out of focus
agreed the R is not focused on her eye, so not a comparable shot.
@@CapFrey07 I agree it is focused on her nose
Thanks for confirm that I made the right choice! After extensive research for a couple months, I did exactly as this video suggested. I bought the R then laid out a small fortune for several L series lenses. RF 14-35 f/4/, RF 24-105 f/4, RF 100-500 f/4-f/7.1 with a 1x4 extender, and the surprisingly fun (albeit not an L glass) RF 35 f/1.8 lens. This set up suits me well as I rarely do video unless it's just for fun with friends and family. My primary subjects are landscapes, nature scenes and wildlife. I am confident that none of my images would benefit in any substantial way had they be taken by the R6 or the R5. The R provides all the precision and details I need.
That is great to hear! Glad you are happy with your purchases!
Why do they keep saying the R is better because it doesn't overheat? The R only does cropped 4K 30. The R5 does full frame 4K 120 and will also do FULL FRAME 4K 30 with NO overheating limits.
To add to that, if you shoot cropped 4K on the R5, you get less of a crop than the R, downsampled 5.5K footage, and no overheating at 4K 30. This video was just a bit deceitful with the overheating conversation.
It is a click bait. Simple.
Agreed, I have both the R and R5, and the R5 shoots WAY better video in every way. Better sharpness, better low light, image can take more grading at 10 bit, less (or no) crop factor, IBIS, better body and controls, better autofocus, less rolling shutter, and all these features apply to the modes that don't overheat. Whatever modes have a chance of eventually overheating aren't even available on the R...
Besides that, the 8K, 4K 60p, 4k 120, and 4K HQ look stunning and leave the R far behind. The R is lighter and cheaper, that's about it.
I like these guys but maybe they should stick with photos.
@@rudyvanos what’s your take in regards to overall photo quality? I don’t really shoot video, but I’m looking to upgrade from my 80D to an EOS R. Is it worth shelling out the extra money and just getting the R5? I shoot eveything, wildlife, portraits, landscapes, macro.
I understand that there’s many factors that apply to answering this question haha, but be it that you have both the R and the R5 I thought I’d ask your opinion. Thanks Rudy 🙏
@@Loki_Highlock I’m surely not the best person to answer this. But I would not recommend to upgrade to the R5 just for stills, too expensive.
There are many other investments, like lenses, tripods, that will give you a better picture.
But if money is not an issue, then yes sure this is an excellent photo camera, ways better then the 80d (I had 70d).
Finally think if you need the megapixels for print etc.
If not then there are plenty of fine cameras (like your 80d) that will look almost as good on screens.
You forgot the R6 won your tests and can do cropped video 4k and 1080p at the same level as the R without overheating too. The only way the R wins over the R6 is in the cost of the camera. I own or have owned both of these camera and I prefer the R6 to the R for performance however I do think the R is a great value for the money.
Good points. Thanks for watching!
I agree with most of this however the R5 won’t overheat in most modes - Canon addressed this. 1080p won’t overheat, 4K (non HQ won’t overheat). So it’s really not a huge deal anymore. And even if it does overheat, you can still flip to a lower resolution and keep shooting. I also know a cinematographer who shot an entire Vegas desert wedding in 8K raw, and didn’t overheat once.
Exactly and the cropped-mode 4k oversampled mode doesn't overheat as well. Is it perfect? No, but I will take the other superior features of the R5 over the R since I can at least fall back to another still very good mode if needed, but you aren't going to give the R better features - it is stuck with the capabilities it currently has.
right, it over heats in the modes that aren't even available to the EOS R not to mention eos R doesn't have full frame 4k
Good to hear. My experience with the R5 was that it did overheat and then I couldn't get it to start up again. And 1080p was not an option.
@@TheSlantedLens crop 4k or 4k 30p full Frame none HQ wouldn't overheat. you didn't even research the camera enough.
Oddly enough - my R5 gets rather warm just doing stupid s__t like a timelapse if we're talking long exposure times... it doesn't shut down or do anything stupid, but, you can def. feel the heat of the thing, even if it's sitting in the shade!
I won't be going away from my R anytime soon.... unless the coming R3 is just too badass to ignore. The differences between the R and R5 aren't big enough and don't justify the extra coin for the "upgrade" for me.
It doesn't always make sense to jump on the newest camera. Good plan to be choosy!
On the close up at 1:56 it’s an unfair test anyway. The R is focused on her nose making the rest of the image look bad.
We picked the wrong image to display. Thanks for watching!
The first comparison one of the shots was missfocused and the following shots are all over the place on focus. It's kind of hard to take reviewers serious that can't even focus correctly. "It's just a test shot" you might say. Yes it is. But it's also about presenting your test in the best way. Using blurry or missed focused images just makes you seem like you don't care.
Then again you are the same guys that said that the Sony A7RIV was a better mirrorless camera for video than the Canon R5, wich you called "a total trainwreck for video" (without posting any evidence or source to this, frankly insane statement).
Been following this channel for years. And have enjoyed many nice videos. But lately you seem to be smoking something over there at TSL.
Yes. Defenetly agree. They need better control in their testing. Some of the shots where even taken at different distance and framing. It's hard to get an idea of how these cameras compare to eachother when there is no consistency. Specially when many of us rely on comparisons like this to decide what camera to buy.
Appreciate your feedback. Thanks for your support!
That's why I stopped watching after the initial test.
We are not perfect and do our best to give good information. Many do not even try and do these types of test because it's not that easy. Cheers.
@@TheSlantedLens I'm subscribed to your channel and enjoy your content. However, people at your level of expertise shouldn't make mistakes such as these. It was more than obvious on a small youtube window that the focus was on the nose and not the eye... I was waiting for you to at least mention it but you went on comparing the details with two different focus points.
What you mentioned around 10:00 about the R struggling to focus while under exposed was THE biggest technical reason I picked up an R6. Shooting anything under exposed or backlit was a nightmare with the R unless you used one shot focus or turned off exposure simulation, both negating the benefits I’d come to expect by switching to mirrorless.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Is this the most misleading title for a video ever? Disappointed.
The R is the most accurate focusing camera I’ve ever had and I’ve had many but when the wedding reception hits its like a dinosaur and I’m back to my 5d3 which outperforms it with the ir beam on the speedlite. Is this issue fixed with the R6?
@@myronhensel the R6 is considerably more confident to track in low light compared to the EOS R. Also when it temporarily raises the exposure during One Shot in order to grab focus it does so much more quickly than the EOS R does. Plus you can program each back button to recall a unique focusing preset (like tracking/servo on one button and one shot single point on another button) so beyond the focus actually working more quickly, you also save precious seconds swapping focusing modes with the R5/R6 when compared to the R/RP
@@andrewdoeshair is it on par with the 5d4 focusing with that type of dim lighting?
The only "Issue" i have with my R is in portrait usage the EV shuts on and off even having the screen thumb area top right / bottom right in landscape. I am blown away with the studio work am am doing with the R
Good to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Not true, there is a setting in the menu to control the EVF. The settings are AUTO & MANUAL. I shoot in portrait mode with my R religiously, EVF doesn't shut off unless I ask it to.
I do feel a bit baited by the title. Your reviews are stellare as always, though. Please keep those up - I reqally enjoy watching them.
Thanks, will do! Thank you for watching!
Upgraded from the R to the R6 and delighted with all the benefits, FPS and autofocus I see a big difference👌🏻 You are right though glass all the way, I finished the RF trinity rather than getting the R5 and your test helps me feel better about my decision!
Great to hear! We were very impressed with the R6!
How do you go about choosing lenses for the R6? I'm thinking of a 16-35mm 2.8 a 50mm and then a 150-600mm for landscaping..
@@Elazarko it really depends what you shoot. You should buy RF glass if possible, 16-35 is EF, the 15-35 2.8 is RF and is part of the trinity and I find it very good. I got the RF 24-70 2.8, RF 70-200 2.8 and RF 50 1.2 first as I would use them more. The 70-200 and 50 are my favourite. In my opinion the 24-70 RF is the best general use lense and the one I use most, I find the 24-105 a little limiting as F4 and 28-70 RF 2.0 is too big and heavy, 24-70 is very close in image quality to 28-70 and when I really need low light or bokeh 50 1.2 is a lot better than both. New RF 50 1.8 would be a great cheap starting option, only RF native long zoom is 100-500 RF at the moment although you can adapt Tamron or Sigma glass. Hopefully they will be making native RF glass in the next year or so. Try save and buy the best glass you want as it will last much longer than bodies, also RF mount is only new so will be around for years so better buying native glass. I learnt this lesson years ago when shooting Nikon DSLR’s buy cheap glass, buy twice. Although no harm having a few cheap lenses so you can throw on for holidays etc. Happy shooting 📷
@@KevinJRegan Do you know if sooc Jpegs on R/R6 renders same skin tone for portraits?
@@nivin3 to be honest I'm not sure. I usually only ever shoot Raw, but tried jpegs on R6 recently and really liked the skin tones straight out of it and find them a little more life like than the R which was nice too but I found made people more sallow than they really are. I use capture one to process Raw's, I moved from lightroom a few years back and find the starting point including colours/skin tones more similar to jpeg than lightroom but obviously still need a litte adjusting.
I had both R and R5 cameras at the same time for a while, I ended up selling my R because, no it's not better than R5 or R6. The R is wonderful, and I almost kept it as a backup because it is a really good camera, but alas R5 all-around really does beat out the R. Autofocus both for people and animals, subject tracking, focus bracketing, low light, drive mode FPS, just insane too many good features to count on the R5. Now bang for the buck, if you need to save money, the R is the winner then, you can't lose with an R.
Very excellent points. Thanks for sharing your experience!
This video just confirmed to me that I made the right choice choosing the R6 as my next camera. Thanks for the comparisons.
Good choice! Thanks for sharing!
The R6 is 20 MP how is it such a good choice
@@damn_deetvee7767 sad mindset you have their.
On the first comparison, R is focused on the nose while R5 & R6 on the eyes
True. We should have selected another pick.
Just purchased an R mainly because of the 30 megapixels and didn't need the video capabilities. BUT, the R6 autofocus works better according to this video and I may have reconsidered had I seen this video before the purchase. But for the R body and 2 Canon RF lenses the budget won out and I'm glad I made the purchase!
You will be happy with your purchase. Let us know how it goes!
Thanks for this comparative review. I own the R and agree with you about the glass, for me the differences in cameras is not enough to upgrade my R. After purchasing the 24 -70 2.8 RF and attaching to my R, I cannot imagine anything better and my EF 70 - 200m. 2.8 with the adapter looks film grade. When I've purchased the RF 15-35mm 2.8 then I'll make the move to what's available at that time. So my trinity will be set and ready. ;)
Sounds like a great plan in the Canon system!
The R is not equal to the R5 or R6. That said, the R still has terrific image quality, and with the firmware update, the autofocus was substantially improved. With the price sometimes coming to $1200 refurbished on Canon USA - it's a terrific value and still a great camera for many applications - I plan to buy one. If you plan to shoot long clips of 4K video do NOT try to do it on a standard mirror less (any manufacturer) it will overheat! Buy a Panasonic S1h or a true video camera WITH A FAN if you intend to shoot a lot of 4K video.
Excellent advice. Thanks for sharing!
Very nice! Took an atypical position and supported it with reasonable examples. The R is useful, but man that R6 looks like the best-kept secret in the Canon mirrorless lineup.
Well said! The tests had me convinced!
Just got my R with an adapter for 1065 euros and absolutely happy about it!
used or new? great deal anyways
@@duartedrago4514 brand new
@@lolskix where?
Good to hear. Enjoy your shoots!
I've both R and R5 and for a reason the image quality, colours and white balance are still more pleasant for my eye on the old-papa R. So, for still images R remains an excellent choice event these days at 2024.
Nice to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience with the R!
Yes it is I have them all and the R is THE BEST!!!
Good to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I got my R5 just before christmas and will say that it is the best camera I have ever used. It is the Camera I have been waiting for and I am completely ecstatic with the performance of the R5 in every metric.
Great to hear. It really does give excellent still images!
@@TheSlantedLens at some point I really should try the video function, but I'm very much a stills shooter
R5 crop video mode never overheats and R only shoots in crop mode. It also renders a far superior image.
The R5 does provide a larger still image.
This is a great review format. Realistic real world situations. Thank you
I appreciate that! Glad you found it helpful!
The title got the click. the content got the like. The beautiful model you chose... got the sub!
The ISO test is what I've been looking for! I have an R and it looks like I'll be happy with it for quite some time.
Good to hear. No need to switch if if meets your needs.
@@TheSlantedLens Exactly. I'd been on the lookout for something that does better in low light, but I don't think the improvement to the R6 and R5 is enough for me to jump.
I'm pleased to report that your Lens Pro 2 Go code still works. Thanks!!
Great to hear. Hope you got a nice discount!
...on the eos r you can adjust the picture style and detail pops up :) ...regarding video the R5 does overheat ... and in the end yes, I kept the R and sold the R5, and I'm still not sure I'll upgrade to R5II or R5c anytime soon...
I'm a full time pro commercial photographer. I used the R as my primary body for about 6 months. It performs adequately but for corporate events it just feels really sluggish (in those cases I end up switching to my Mk IV which handles like a dream compared to the R). I've since upgraded to the R6 and it's much, much better at events -- just overall speedier and the AF is better for sure. It's not perfect but very good. I still use my Mk IV for some things and keep the R around if I need to shoot a video interview (seems really good for that).
Good to hear about your experience with the cameras. Thanks for sharing!
I agree that the R6 does feel solid for events. It's reliable and does well at everything and has two card slots.
@@mjztx Yeah, I love those two slots.
I’m experiencing the same issue with my R for events, especially wedding receptions with party lighting it’s like a dinosaur. My 5f3 outperforms it with the ir beam from the speedlite. It doesn’t sound like the R6 is on par autofocus wise compared to the 5d3/5d4 for some event party work. Is it?
Do you see much of an image quality difference in low light (ISO6400 specifically) in the R vs 5dIV?
Isn’t the R5 still the best crossover camera seeing that the normal 4K non hq doesn’t overheat and both the r5 and r6 r fine in 1080?
It may be for some people but not everyone can use 1080p.
@@TheSlantedLens ya but the R5 can do normal 4K 24p without overheating from what I’ve heard so what does the R do better than the R5?
@@EJZ8 yeah 4k non hq is always around
Everyone compromises. The overheating issue is no a technical incompatibility issue which makes the camera overheat. It is Canons unwillingness to compete with their own Cine cameras!
My R6 died from heat. Not just shut down to cool. Died. Cooked itself after 17 minutes. destroyed the audio at 14 mins, then completely died and had to be returned to Canon for 8 weeks. It was a mild 22ºC morning.
The 10-18 EFS lens fits, so you can shoot wide.
Does the lens you were using not have IS? I'm presuming it's the RF 50mm which doesn't. An RF24-105 doesn't need IBIS. Even in 4K, and especially with software stabilisation turned on, which I never have.
Nice review 👍
How is R holding with lenses without built-in optical image stabilisation?
It gives you what you would expect to have. That is a drawback, not having stabilization.
I have looked at "Upgrading" my R, I've looked at the R3, R5 and R6, After much deliberation I have decided for me the R is still the best option
Sounds like a good plan. Enjoy!
Maybe it's just my eyes, but in the comparison @1:39 looks like the focus point is a tiny little bit different on the R.
The nose is in focus and the eye socket looks a little bit blurred to me due to a different focus distance.
R6 and R5 shows the focus more towards the eye socket and the nose is a little bit blurred.
I'm probably wrong as I'm watching on mobile, but if I noticed on a mobile there's probably something in there.
Yep, the focus what not quite on. The wrong image was put in during post. Good eye! Thanks for watching!
I'm moving from a Canon 90D to a Canon R6 Mark II, which I ordered, and I'm waiting for it to arrive.
I have a question for you. Would you recommend the R at a lower price to get me into the mirrorless system and purchase some good RF glass? This would allow me to purchase 2 R bodies, or should I stick with the R6 Mark II and use my EF glass with an adapter until I can get some good RF glass?
I would stick with the R6 Mark II and use an adapter until you can get better glass.
Thanks for this comparison between those 3
imo the R6 looked best overall, abit dark and the pink top was abit werid compared to the other two at the beginning.
But the R5 and R6 overheat?
Is there any quality benefits the R5 has over something like the eos2000d?
The R5 is a full frame sensor with a large megapixel that gives you beautiful images and good frames per second. The overheating issues have been addressed in firmware updates, so it is better. But the R5C is better for the overheating issue.
its very interesting that the dynamic range on the newer cameras is not earthshaking better at all
Yeah, it seems they are developing other things lately.
I own both The R can’t focus in low light it is a real problem otherwise work’s great. The R5
Is just majestic on everything, for me video is not primary thing because what I do are small interviews some 5 to 15 minutes at the most. No issues there. If I was doing more videos Canon C70 will be my choice. One other note I own Tamron 45 mm 1.8 and the Tamron 90 mm latest model and I use it with lens adapter for my R systems and the results are spectacular.
Great to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience!
The number one problem with all of these camera's is the redicilous prices for R glass.
Yep, the RF glass is stupid expensive but you could always buy EF glass. It works fine on the R series.
Yep, something worth investing in though.
For a armature like me it was really good video. Thanks for showing actual photos & footages. This really helps in deciding which one is better suited for one's use. Just pulling out numbers from manufacturers & comparing never helps. Thank you very much. & Yeah to me R6 really stood out in this comparison. Best of luck.
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy your purchase!
Hi, thank you for this content, which one can produce image that can be printed the largest possible?
That would be the R5. It has the highest MP.
When the Canon R5 "overheats" it means you are limited to 4k/30p max. It never prevents you from recording video completely. Basically you are locked out of 4k/60p, 4k/120p 4k/30p DownSample, and 8k/30p etc. You are never without a video camera just because it's overheated too much to use the highest quality modes.
If it doesn’t fully shut down and wait to cool down then it really doesn’t have a native overheating issue, its just that Canon doesn’t want to compete with its Cine cameras so they create these glitches! So unfair!
That has not been my experience. When it overheated it did not allow me to have any video access.
@@TheSlantedLens you must have inadvertently been trying to go to a mode that is limited. 4K/30p normal mode is not limited by heat, you can always get in that mode unless you’re trying to use the Downsampled 8K version. Best thing is to setup 4K/24 or 30p normal mode as one of the preset modes c1 c2 etc. I do it all the time. Once heat stops me from shooting 4K 60p or more I go to 4K 30p and shoot all I want. It locks out of trying to shift into higher modes but never the regular 4K modes.
This is the video that was looking for. Definitely going with the r6 now.
Glad I could help. Enjoy your purchase!
Interesting comparison but I would say that the R6 would be the best buy. The autofocus issue with the R and I also see a slight but annoying yellow/green colour cast on the R. Saying it can be correct in post is not good enough, who wants to spend time doing that. I own an R and use to have an old 5d Mark2 (regret selling it) and I think the colours from the 5D were better straight from the camera.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great video guys!!! thank you very much🙏🏽👊🏽
Our pleasure! Thanks for your comment!
Amazing that the R6 consistently outperforms the R5 across multiple YT channels, yet at the end, the R5 is recommended above it.
R6 easily won this comparison and it was not recommended. Just shows the incredible bias for MP.
For some people that larger pixel count is super important!
That’s true, but it wins in all areas. Why even do the test when you can just say, 20mp is a no go.
In the actual comparison of the cameras, the R6 wins.
I think the key point here is that the R is the right camera for you. As a wedding photographer I wouldn't use a camera that didn't have dual card slots. And I need auto-focus that works as subjects move in and out of shadow and light. I don't shoot video at weddings, so the overheating is a non-issue. So for me the right choice is the R6. Great dynamic range, excellent low light performance and the amazing auto-focus make it the best camera for my needs.
That totally makes sense for what you do!
Love the comparison, but I think the first photo from the EOS R is actually on the out of focus eye. So It's not less detail, it's just out of focus.
Yes, it's focused on the nose.
Great work. I'm super happy I found this video . I was really torn on what camera to go with. Thanks
Good luck making your decision!
The deal breaker for me among the three is the single memory card slot on the R. Next, I'm not big into the video aspect of any of the three. As there isn't any substantial differences in image quality between the R6 and the R5, I would have to go with the R6 and save a lot of money.
Sounds like a good plan.
Considering what was said at the end, it would be nice to do a shootout comparing an RP+50mm1.2 vs R5+50mm1.8 or something similar
That is a great idea. It's on the list.
Great video. Nice comparisons. I used the R one time for a grad shoot and it's what made me want a R series camera. with that said: 4K60, 1080p120, and IBIS were almost enough to make me only want the R5 or 6. I concluded the 6 was the best option for me for sure. So while I hear you and you may be generally close about the R, when it comes to video most I feel videographers will only choose R6, 5, or now 3
Yes, the R6 is great for video. Thanks for your comment!
Hello! Thank you for the video. I have a question, what firmware version did you have on EOS R model in this video?
The firmware was 1.2.0 Thanks for watching!
@@TheSlantedLens why not the 1.8.0 ? Is great ? Thank you for the video …
Thanks for the review. It was informative. I always like seeing other people's real world experiences with cameras. I own both the R and R5. I find that the R is great for tripod work with proper lighting and gets the job done. The dynamic range on it is sub par next to the R5 and the fact that is has no IBIS makes it much more difficult to use if you want to go free hand. Both great cameras but since I don't shoot video the R5 easily takes the gold here.
Great points. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Even a serval years later, I still love my R! Haven’t upgraded & have no plans too! But I’ve grown tired of waiting for a RF crop centered camera. Picked up and Fujifilm X4 & have fallen in love with photography all over again!
So good to hear. Enjoy your shoots!
Canon 5d mark2 still my favorite camera :)
I still have mine and I do love it. Not for video but still a good stills camera.
I had a 5d2 but it was a level lower than the 5d3 because of the much better autofocus in the 3.
I don't care about video, rather I shoot stills. The R6 clearly looks like my best option when comparing the price to the R5. The question I have is the cropping for birds in flight shots. The birds are not always close enough to fill the frame. Would I be happy with the R6 if I have to crop stills a little?
It really depends on what your final use is. Will you be making large prints or posting digital images online?
@@TheSlantedLens On my Canon 5D MKIV, I am comfortable cropping a little for large prints with the large numbers of pixels. Shrinking the number by 2/3 may not leave enough resolution available for cropping. Remember, I can't predict how close the birds are goping to be to my camera, nor can I get closer due the unknown direction the birds will fly.
2:25 eos R is focused on the nose, whereas the R5 and R6 - on the eye. So you cant compare the amount of detail in this case.
I noticed that, was wondering if anyone else was going to comment that haha
Was going to say the same thing.
Yep, that was a slip up. But the nose is sharp.
@@TheSlantedLens This is exactly right, the nose is sharp. But you were saying that the eos R lacks details🤣
Great review , I agree totally depending on one's photographic gendre will determine the best body for you and regardless of any body the lens quality will always be the the most important single factor. lets remember Ansel Adam who taught us the most important photographic component is the one standing behind the camera-a simple point and shoot in the hands of a good photographer will trump a poor photographer with the highest and mightiest expensive gear. Thank you for your work here.
Good points. Thank your for your comment!
Seriously? The title says the R is better than the R6 and R5 - but the video shows that it's the worst of the three😅 anyways, I'd rather get a Nikon Z6 II - great durability, amazing IQ, top notch DR and ISO, excellent and affordable lenses. RF lenses are just HUGE and more expensive.
Good to hear. Let us know how your purchase goes.
Nikon Z6 ii can’t track a plane lol. Now imagine a bird. Nikon has terrible autofocus. I really like there image renderings though very nice image quality. The Canon R6 has Ant eye AF it’s crazy good might want to check it out.
@@alphaandomega2709 Canon's AF is better, yes, this has been proven. However, I don't need to track neither Airplanes nor ants😅 For literally most use cases its perfectly fine/great. I don't get it why people are so obsessed with the (eye) AF topic. I've shot internationally awarded photo with my good old D610 which has only 39 AF points :) there are so much more aspects to a great camera.
The point is r is worth more than r5 and r6 bcos it’s price is almost double , not much difference other than autofocus which nobody use .
I love to see this closeups comparing the three cameras but we need to know which autofocus method you’re using, most of the shots of the EOS R are focused on the nose, that’s not my experience with this camera
That would be an error in photo selection.
I’d be interested in how you brought the under and over exposures to “normal”
They are very well done- what settings did you concentrate on (Lightroom or?) and did you go by the numbers in sampling parts of the image or using your color checker chart?
We take the images into camera raw and bring up the exposure, and shadows and bring down the highlights and whites. It's a little different for each image. That is the basic idea.
@@TheSlantedLens - so just judging the exposure by eye?
@@jeffellis6544 seems like when it came to shadows and highlights for fine tuning adjustment, they went with what they thought made each image look the best. Since each camera may react differently.
For exposure, it seems if they exposed 2 stops below, they adjusted the exposure slider in the respective program 2 stops brighter.
in the picture quality test ( details) , the focus plane of the image from the "R" is around the nose. check the details of the nose of all the three images. 2:25
Yep, we do realize that. Wrong images selected in post. Thanks for watching!
another great vid, thanks (but can you get rid of the cut sound effect? gets wearing...)
Thanks for your feedback. We will look into that.
I dont have these problems on the R. Did your lens not have image stabilization? I've never lost focus on a face in video or photo with the walk shots. I use a 24-105 L lens and the 50mm ef lens and i get great shots. What did you guys do wrong?
Selected the wrong image in post.
WOW i love you guys' shirts 😍🥰 i am using an EOS R now..and very satisfied ❤️❤️ thanks for telling me i should not upgrade to R5 & R6. Just invest on better lens / glass ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
Glad you found it helpful. Enjoy your lenses!
I have the EOS-R and just picked up the R5 recently.
The autofocus system of the R5 is insane..
I needed a camera with dual cards and decided to go with the R5 instead of a dslr with similar.
Sounds like you made a great choice!
Is it needed to upgrade from the R to r5 for image quality? Or is the difference soo smal....
2:30 r5 and r6 focused on the eye, while R on the nose. Hard to compare different focal planes.
Yep, that nose focus was unfortunate.
In the first photo comparison you missed focus in the EOS R. Focus is on the nose. You can clearly see the details on the nose.
Yep. Thank you for watching!
at ISO 100 they produce all the same picture quality
R 5 is a great video camera, I never had an overheat situation even shooting 8K raw. Using Ninja V for video will illuminate the overheat issue. Even using it for streaming 4K HQ looks so good...
Good to hear. Glad you have been happy with it!
Why is it better with ninja v? I have a ninja v
It doesn’t overheat in 25 minutes. I have the r6 and it doesn’t overheat until 1hr. At 1080 it never overheats.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing your experience!
As a photographer i'm glad I saved 3000 dollars for a 1-2% worse image lol
EOS R rules
Glad you are happy with your R!
Hi, very informative video guys. So, for my photography (not video) how long can i shoot images on the R6 without shutting down/over heating?
LOL. Just keep on clickin!
Thank you very much for this very detailed side by side.
You're very welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
eos r r6 5dm4 which one is good for wedding and long term use
If you do still photography then the R6 is a great choice but if you do video you may have overheating issues. It also depends on lenses. The R6 has an RF lens mount so you have to use an adaptor or purchase RF lenses.
@@TheSlantedLens which one I go for eos r is good to go
Been using R for a year, very happy except for battery duration. You absolutely need the adapter with the ring, though, or the RF glass, because it lacks physical controls
Good points. Thanks for sharing!
But I would stick with R6 as compared to R & R5 , R6 looks neutral and better investment but then the 20MP is still not enough.
Yeah, in today's market we keep wanting larger and larger files!
I really appreciate this video my friend. The R6 it is! I was really more concerned about the megapixels for big portrait image printing. Do you think you can do a print test on these from small to big scale? Anyway, loved your data color thing in the end! lol you're so funny
Yeah, the R6 is a great choice!
Nice try but at 1:37 the R focus is on the nose pushing the eye out of focus. The other two have the eye in focus and the nose out of focus. Sleight of hand.
Yeah, we realize that. The wrong image was added in post.
I agree, But the mechant who has a lot of R5&6 in stock feels pressure and don't agree
Yeah. Each person has to decide for themselves!
Kept the R but sent back the R5? Enigma....very strange unless you are 90% video. I have owned both and The R, hit KEH immediately. Good vid guys
Thanks. I'm hoping they will fix the problem. Cheers.
In that first image comparison (2:00), I think you focused the R on her nose instead of her eye???
Yes, that was a mistake. Thanks for watching!
1:56 the result from R is actually Miss focusing, it was focusing on the nose, see how many skin detail we can see from R than R5 on the nose.
Yes, true, true. Thanks for watching!
I have not heard anywhere that the canon R5 or R6 over heats where are you getting your information form ???
Google it. There are lots of articles out there about it. They are fine for short clips. But longer filming of like 30 minutes is when you get a problem.
Hey man I'm looking at the 90d or eos r for hybrid shooting mainly photography, but also some car feature videos, which one would you recommend I go for?
I love the R because of the large megapixel sensor. You just need to pick wider lenses for the video because of the crop factor.
Great video guys. I have a technical question: I want to use my R6 to shoot fashion shows together with a canon 70-200 F4 IS USM on a monopode AI Servo focus mode. In the past, using my 5D Mark III I simply set the stabilization mode 2 on the lens and shot. With the R6 I don´t get same result unless I disable the camera stabilization, is it normal? With the stabilizer on I get some blurred images...
With the stabilizer on it should be better than when it is off. Not sure what is going on.
Because if you use an EF IS lens, Canon will force the camera to stop stabilizing and can only use the lens stabilization system. So, I think this is a firmware bug because Canon is supposed to switch it automatically, however, it seems you need to switch it manually.
13:43 - I'm in the same boat - Went right to the R5 and it's really just NOT worth the $5000 (w/24-105 F4) if you're doing landscapes 99% of the time. Even for wildlife, the eye tracking "can" get you some shots you would miss, BUT, the main problem you run into, that's not discussed enough, is that birds usually fly in groups, well... most animals are in groups, so the eye tracking can/will jump from one to the other. I think I missed JUST as many shots on my R5 than I would with a "pos" 90d. For me personally, I think the "R" would have been the better choice, along with great glass, or heck, even some of those budget prime lenses would be just fine. I'm not pulling in TRILLIONS like everyone else seems to be with photography, and looking back through thousands of 5d1 - 4 shots, the difference is not due to the camera!! For dedicated birds / wildlife all day long the R7 is likely the way to go, unless, you're one of these jokers that wants to blow $5000-$15000 on a big white, and lug the stupid thing around all day while complaining about "getting old." I still think the 100-500 at $2700 is insane money to blow... the older 100-400 works fine, and you "can" learn to better approach birds/wildlife to make up the 100mm delta... Also - one still can do some composite work for landscapes and make up for the lower dynamic range without making it a super complex workflow as landscapes are usually static. One thing though: Why the F doesn't the "R" have an intervelometer built in? Seriously - they must have had an "off day" over at Canon when they were designing the firmware...
Lots of good things to think about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I don’t buy the argument that the R is the better crossover camera, and I’m an R owner! Granted, it has full quality 4k that doesn’t overheat, but it’s cropped with no stabilisation. R5 can do line skipped 4k with no overheating and that’s FULL FRAME AND STABILISED! R6 can do stabilised 1080p if the 4k overheats which suits me fine and that’s IF it overheats (remember firmware improved it a lot so that if you actually cool down the camera you get more time back).
The benefits of these new cameras far outweigh the slight overheating from a crossover shooters perspective like me, I think R6 is amazing value for what it offers and can’t wait to be able to afford one or pickup one used!
When the R6 overheated on me it did not let me back in for over 30 minutes. I could not have shot anything.
@@TheSlantedLens thanks for quick reply and good to know, that is worse than I made out! Do you know if it had latest firmware?
@@WilliamJohnston R6 take 4K 60fps would not overheat if continuous use a small handy fan point to the back of camera
The R6 is one of the best cameras I've own . Period.
Good to hear. Thanks for sharing your point of view!
Hey JP - now that there is an R5C - where does that place things..... I know it doesn't have ibis...
I am leaning toward the R5 C but have not purchased it yet. Very tempting!
At 2:31 did you miss focus with the EOS R? Looks like the focus hit the nose rather than eye. So I am not sure about the actual detail comparison.
Yep, the editor selected the wrong image. Still a lot of good info.
at 1:54 , the focus is on the nose and not on the eye. so there is not "less details" on the R.
Yes, that is true. We missed the eye. Thanks for watching!
Did you update firmware on R? Canon fixed and improve eye-detection capability on R. 1.8 is the latest R firmware. With that said, you wouldn't miss eye focus on R.
This was shot before that firmware update. Thanks for your comment!