I found a hidden and surprisingly unadvertised bonus in the R6 mark 2, which is that you no longer have this small square that determines the area where AF will work when using the 600mm F11 and the 800mm F11. Instead, there is now a larger rectangle with something like 80% coverage, which is very useful.
Yes, I've found the noise at high ISO's seems to look more like film grain, so its quite usable with that look. Its the nasty multi-color noise that really ruins an image.
Great job, Mr. Abbott - thank you a lot. Your review summarizes my experiences very clearly. I bought this camera a few weeks ago to replace my 80D and all my expectations were met. Coming from an older system it`s hard to believe how far you can get with this camera. Great af und low-light performance. I use it with my EF-lenses.
Thanks for this excellent review! I've been a pro Canon shooter for 18 years and just got the R6 II in the fall. It is BY FAR THE BEST camera I've ever used! (I owned the Rebel, 20D, 30D, 1D Mark IIN, 1D Mark III, 5D Mark IV and EOS R). I did a LOT of research and there is nothing that beats it in its price range. The A7IV is behind in almost every area besides advertised resolution (though upscaled to 33 MP the R6 II seems to outresolve the A7IV). The photo is way faster and more accurate on the R6 II.The video has full frame oversampled 4K 60 where the A7IV has an annoying APSC crop. The build on the R6 II is way better (as is the LCD) and the lens selection is just as good (with EF lenses working 100% as well as native glass). Glad to see this review. The R6 Mark II is probably the most underrated camera of the past year. For some reason the A7IV and S5 II get so much attention despite being behind the R6 II in most areas. Almost NONE of the big channels did a review on this camera (aside from the Canon invite "pReviews"). Even the big Canon ambassadors like Pete Mckinnon, Irene Rudnyk, and Vanessa Joy did NO review of this cam (Irene didn't even mention it at all). PS 2:43 - The weight is wrong. I blame BH for this and all the TH-camrs are getting this wrong. The R6 Mark III is 670g with battery compared to 680g of the R6. 588g is the weight without battery and this is almost never used (except BH got this wrong and everybody seems to get their info there).
Rented this for a wedding, paired with the 28-70/f2. What a dream to work with coming from a EOS R. Auto Focus was superb. Definitely want to add this to the arsenal.
I love how u test gears! When i watched the slanted lens they saw a noisy image around 800 lol and fallen apart around 3200 lmao. On your test 25600 is still usable 👍💪💯
To be honest, ALL of the major manufacturers make great gear, if one cannot get decent results from any of them, it's likely not the camera. I shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony, and they all have their strengths. The major contributor to a great photo is the technical skill and creativity of the photographer.
I just watched the Slanted Lens video where he compares the R6 II to the Panasonic S5II. The pictures that he had on the video did show visible noise at ISO 800 and it did look bad at ISO 3200. Link to the video; th-cam.com/video/1fs_hkOa5TA/w-d-xo.html
in my opinion, as the r6 m2 being my first cam, i like the power button. it allows me to grab the cam naturally and turn it on one handedly. just my opinion as a first cam owner
And I think that's a legitimate point of view. The problem is if you own multiple cameras. I think as long as Canon sticks to this position, it will be fine.
I agree with you on the placement of the on/off switch. I don’t understand why so many reviewers have made such a big deal of how great having it on the right side is. I much prefer the on/off on the left side.
The reason for the on/off switch move was because of a design fault on the original model, as it was prone to breaking off. This happened to me on a lightly used body which had no heavy use or handling - it simply broke off - and I wasn’t the only one to whom this happened. Apart from that it is a great camera, and I am even more pleased with the new model which has become my main body, with the original being kept as a second/spare.
Reviewers haven't been defending the placement of the switch, they've praised that it's now possible to change between photo and video with a dedicated switch AND utilize all the different modes for both photo and video.
There is significant advantage. Most of time camera will be resting on my right hand and will be off to save battery. when the right moment comes I can easily toggle the on button before looking thru viewfinder. Otherwise I have to my other hand to locate the button and on it. Saves few seconds and can be critical at times
As a person who hasn’t owned any other previous versions of canon camera, the new on/off switch makes so much sense. I can have one finger on the shutter button and my thumb to toggle between on/off, making it almost impossible to miss a moment and save battery life at the same time. For old canon users it’s a different story just because your muscle memory is playing tricks on you. Most people don’t like change so it’s expected. But the ergonomics of the new on/off switch makes so much more sense.
Thanks for this thorough, practical review. Coming from the 5D4 there is a lot to like: Great low-light performance, IBIS, flip out screen, uncropped 4K and no video time limits... Can you recall where Canon claims more detail over the 5D4?
James Reader did a great comparison of the R, R6 and R5. The difference in detail amoung all of them is negligable and the R6 II is even better than the R6. In comparisons I upscaled raw images from the R6 II to 45 MP (using LR/Adobe Camera Raw's Enhance feature) and the R6 II files overlayed on top or R5 files are more detailed. Even without the Enhance feature, just upscaling from ACR/LR to 45 MP, often the R6 II files look IDENTICAL to the R5 files when layered and zoomed in to 100% on a 5K monitor. I owned the 5D IV and R and was worried about going down in MP. After doing all these tests I realized that MP is overrated and more of a marketing scheme right now. I have also printed giant billboard advertising for companies with 8 MP 1D Mark II files that looked INCREDIBLE so don't let people try to say that 24 MP is only good for social media.
@@77dris i agree, stepping up from 5dmkiv to R6 was a bit let down in mpx but everything else was way better. Few days ago came R6mkii, I went to do some portraits, they changed something in AF from R6, I was confused and thaught photos were not sharp on the eyes, went to editing, was worried as hell, still not sharp in selection, then I got it that emdedded preview was not reading full quailty image because all of the photos were perfect, its so much better than R6 and 5D mkiv, thats just insane. I really can't say enaugh how great it is. took me a few days to adjust my fingers on new on/off button and yes, new joystick sucks too as Dustin said. its just not good anymore, its too slippery and hard to control.
@@kevc.2958 its better in many ways, resolution is bot 30mpx but its so sharp it seems a lot better. AF can be confusing when coming frim older models but it works great. Video is great too. No more overheating apparently. Connecting to phone is a breaze. Good value def.
Just ordered the R5 recently. Almost went with the r6ii as it's the newer camera but I really wanted to top screen, higher res evf and lcd, better build quality, 45mp and 4k120. Quite a bit more expensive but I reckon it'll keep its value until the r5mkii drops next year.
I sold my 5D4 (after 7 years of use) and just picked up the R6ii. After playing with it the ibis is amazing and the AF system is amazing. I also love the extra dials and joystick. Speeds up the workflow for sure. I pair it up with my EOS-R shooting Weddings. After testing the R6ii now I want to replace my EOS-R
After taking a hiatus for a few years, its interesting to return to the fact that "spray and pray" is now an acceptable and standard practice. 40 fps, good lord.
Great review! I have the R6 right now and use it mostly only for portrait photography coupled with my older EF L prime lenses. In your opinion, do you think it is worth it to upgrade to the R6 mark II? I am mostly only concerned about the autofocus performance but it seems like the R6 hardly ever misses with eye detection and there may be a point of diminishing returns when it comes to autofocus improvements (i.e. you either hit the focus or you don't).
@@samarianosans absolutely agree. Keep the R6 , there is nothing here for R6 owners. It will this way for awhile. R1 is backburner due to US war on semicon. Canon has no more cash to burn. Very sad.
@@DustinAbbottTWI it probably has requirements for minimum output, so I guess "the adapter" they are referring to is just a charging brick (like for a phone charger). You have to plug that USB-C into something, so what are you plugging it in? A PC or a laptop won't suffice, as the output is too low over USB ports, unless you build a PC with a fancy motherboard which usually has one high-power port, but that's kind of a rarity. I had the EOS R, and it did not want to charge with a phone charger that was 18W, but did want to charge with a charger that provided 33W. Even phones will sometimes refuse to charge if the output is too low because it's not good for the battery but usually they provide more leeway. For instance that phone which came with the 33W charger was totally fine with charging with that other 18W charger, but it would just charge at close to half the speed.
@@Mikri90 I have a number of power stations that can output as much as 100W over USB-C, so I was surprised I had issues. Sometimes it can be a power cable, too, though.
@@DustinAbbottTWI it might be the cable then. I mean too much power can also be an issue depending on the device (there is always a lower and upper limit) but I would guess the R6 mk II would be smart enough to just pass as much power as it needs. If a cable is too slow or at least non-compliant with Canon's spec that could be a problem. That said, if they indeed made a downgrade in this regard that would be a real shame. I would have to look into it more.
I really prefer having the on-off switch on the right hand side. That's only an issue for people coming from the older bodies. Looking at the R5mII, that seems to be how Canon bodies are going to be for the next generation anyway. Apart from that minor unnecessary rant, great review. Thank you! :)
Great review, as always. Love the camera. Coming from Sony, the only thing Canon needs to work on is dynamic range (especially in video) and quieter lenses. Sony is quite a bit better in both of these areas. Canon RF lenses are much louder than Sony GM lenses. The constant focus "ticking" noise makes them almost unusable in a quiet environment with an on-board mic. Hopefully their RF II series of lenses will be GM silent.
It's ironic, as at first the "big advantage" was going to be RF glass (the first EOS R cameras weren't impressive). Now the cameras are great, but the lenses are the weak point.
Another wonderful analysis by the thorough and considered Dustin, who is quickly becoming one of the go to reviewers. Indeed it was this video that actually sealed my decision to purchase the R6 mark 2. However, this decision for me appears to have been a mistake. Here is the reason. Broadly speaking there are two categories of Canon users. The first is that group who already own a set of high quality and expensive EF L lenses, and who are not willing to upgrade what are otherwise excellent lenses, and the second group who are either willing to upgrade to the RF line or who do not already own EF L lenses. I fall into the former category. So when I purchased the R6 mark 2 I also purchased the EF-R adapter. This has been problematic from the very first day. In fact, after I unboxed the camera, charged the battery, and connected the adapter, my EF L lenses did not work. The screen simply displayed '00' for the aperture and the lenses would not focus. I swapped the EF-R adapter. This new adapter worked, although the camera store could not find an issue with the original adapter and could only replicate the issue on my camera, suggesting that the problem followed the camera not the adapter itself. This then led to a second problem: my EF zoom lenses in particular would lose focus and then lock up such that they only way to recover was to reset the camera itself. The two lenses involved were the EF 70-200 IS F4 L and the macro 100mm IS L. The EF 50mm F1.8 did not have this problem, the cheapest of the cheap in my collection. I dug into this issue online and noted that I was not the only person experiencing this issue and the solution that seemed to work was to return it to Canon for a warranty 'fix'. So this is where my camera is currently. Of course others mileage might differ and it might be that my camera has a fault but that fact that this problem is a topic in various fora does perhaps suggest that the EF-R adapter route is slightly buggy. I make no comment on how my camera would work with an RF 70-200 F4 L because I am simply unwilling to fork out money to replace an already excellent lens. My current plan, once the camera is checked out by Canon, is to trade it in and try my luck with the Nikon line instead (my wife is committed to Nikon so I will negotiate borrowing her lenses).
Wow - that's actually really unusual in my experience. I still have a few EF lenses that I routinely test via adapter when I test new R bodies, and I haven't seen that with Canon lenses (sometimes with third party lenses)
@@DustinAbbottTWI The issue with the new EF-R adapter is solely with zoom lenses not my 50mm, 24mm or my sigma art 35mm. I suspect the AF on the camera but will update once Canon gets back to me. Thanks again for your reviews, and for your response.
i use the r6ii with my ef 70-200 f4 L non IS. and i dont have any of the problems you stated. all my lenses were EF but now im slowly moving to RF. RF lenses provide the max 40fps the r6ii is capable of. most EF lenses are not fast enough for 40fps. what i like about EF lenses is theyre made like tanks, durable, RF lenses are mostly strong plastic, but i do like the lightweight and feel of RF lenses. BUT ive had my r6ii lock up few times, and i had to remove the battery. most happened when i was using third party batteries, it also happened one time with original battery i was bursting at 40fps and it just froze, with rf 100-400 lens. so honestly i wouldnt say its most robust camera but im enjoying it. i hope you find what works for you. in 99.9% of the times, i dont have any problem and ive had this camera since launch.
@@truthseeker6804 Thanks for your response! The issue is I think with my camera. It was kind of wonky out of the box and as I mentioned I was able to demonstrate its inability to use the EF-R adaptor in the store. The freezing of the EF zoom lenses causing a camera lock up, the second issue I mentioned, is a no go for me and if Canon cannot fix it or cannot see an issue with it then I will trade it in. But I will update when I get it back.
5:43 Are you sure it's 1080p? In case of HDMI there are no doubts, but I believe USB with WebCam Utility only delivers up to 1024x576 (which is just a quarter of 1080p) with simple software upscaling to 1080p which is obviously not equal in quality to real 1080p... That was the last I heard and that's how it works with any Canon camera that has LiveView and USB port. I mean mini and micro USB. Would be glad to be proved wrong about this USB-C here...
One thing you didn’t touch on which is highly important, especially for event shooters. How is it photographing a wedding reception with disco lights on, does the auto focus hunt? My R is terrible especially when there’s movement.
I didn't shoot in a disco ball environment, so I can't comment on that. That's a pretty specific case study. Just know that the autofocus of the R is nothing like the more recent cameras. They are in a whole other class.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks Dustin. You shoot weddings and event primarily right? What Canon mirrorless cameras work just as well as the 5d4/1dx2 for a reception autofocus wise?
Dustin you are the most amazing reviewer I have ever known!!! I know your not in to Nikon very much would you like to do a review with my z9 and 85 1.2
Thank you, JR. I really don't have time to add any other systems right now, but I appreciate the offer (I've currently got 7 lenses, one camera, plus accessories to review already!!)
excellent review.. thanks for the valuable efforts... one question , does IBIS really useful and worth to consider ? currently i am using EOS R and sigma 135mm f1.8 art.. sometimes the photos results from telephoto lens were bit shaky even subject was not moving.. planning to upgrade R6 II, if IBIS worth considering .. whats your opinion ? thanks
Great stuff here and definitely food for thought. As someone who has been perfectly happy with my Canon DSLRs, I really haven't given much thought to moving to mirrorless. I mainly use my 7D2 with a 24-105, and my 1DX3 with a 100-400. I also use a 20D, as well as my original 300D which I've had for 20 years now, and which is just too much of an old friend for me to discard it. But I've been doing some research, and it seems like an R6 Mk II may be a very nice addition to my camera bag. Save for a Tokina 19-35mm that I've had for years, and a soon-to-come Sigma 100-600C, all of my lenses are Canon EF or EF-S. It's nice to know that with the EF-RF adapter I can still use these lenses. So, I'm still not quite sure, but the scales seem to be tipping toward the R62. Christmas is coming...
I been thinking of getting one for astro landscape photography also it looks a good all rounder, at the moment i'm using the old 6D and its been brilliant also I have taken dragonflies in flight astro pics also its built like a tank.
What are your thoughts on this camera vs the R5? Is the resolution of the R5 its only benefit over the R6 Mark II or do you see other elements that make it a better camera (in event situations, like weddings)?
Love how Canon handles high ISO noise. They keep things very sharp with a fine grain. Much prefer it over blotchy, smudgy, blurry noise reduction high ISO.
I am so conflicted! I'm still a DSLR shooter, and really not in a rush to go mirrorless, but am leaning that way now. If this R6mkII had come out with a 30MP sensor I think I'd be owning it today. The fact that it only went to 24 has me conflicted between this and the R5. Of course now the R5 has just come out with a mkII version, so I guess I'll continue to wait while all the early adopters sort out what's what. This is typical of Canon though. They always intentionally handicap a lower model to push you toward a higher one. They did this with DSLRs too, and it's a bit frustrating. I personally don't feel I need 45MP, but since my shooting often results in having to crop in a lot, I want better than 24. Canon knows many people sit in that gap between the two, and they could have closed it with a 30MP sensor.
The R6 ii has two, maybe three depending on your needs, major flaws (for sports). 1: The sensor readout speed; while improved over the R6 and R5, its too slow for fast paced sports to use the electronic shutter/ES. You simply cannot get around the fact a fast moving round ball will go oval. You either use mechanical shutter/MS (I use elec first curtain) or live with misshapen balls 🤣 pun intended. 2. Once battery charge drops to below +- 40% the camera's frame rate drops dramatically using the MS. Using a BG-R10 with two batteries largely negates this issue. Neither of these though, is an issue with the R3. Yes, you might see a tiny amount of Rolling shutter distortion using the R3, but you'd have to look closely to see it. For nature photography, the ES is more viable since nature very rarely has uniform shapes like straight lines or perfect circles so its far less noticeable. 3. Another issue for the ES is the fact 40 or 20fps is overkill and 5fps isn't enough. The 15fps of the R3 ES in H mode is a sweet spot. the 12fps of the MS in both cameras is more than enough, let's be honest, but the point of a Mirrorless body with ES, is to be able to use the ES, all the time if you'd like to. I'd prefer not to have to wear out the MS, but I guess I have to pick and choose the times its viable, something I wouldn't have to do with the R3.
Hi Dustin, really fantastic review. Did you had a chance to try if silent electronic shutter would still cause banding? I believe the sensor readout of this is 14ms so might be just usable for indoor ambient lighting, like indoor weddings with silent shutter?
I will order an R6-MkII the minute Canon announces 3rd party lens have the green light. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my R7 even with it's limitations along with the small handful of lenses I've found to be affordable.
I'm so happy that ur review is finally here. Quite curious about the performance of adapting the EF100-400mm II L lens against RF 100-500mm on the R6 Mark II too. What are your thoughts?😂
I recently purchased this Canon R6 Mark II Full Frame Mirrorless Also, Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC Lens for Canon EF And Samyang 100mm f/2.8 ED UMC Macro Lens for Canon EF And of course, the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R But when I attach either of these lenses using the adapter of course, nothing happens when I press the Shutter Button. Not even a sound. The camera does not take picture. What am I doing wrong?
Man I need some help y’all. So I’m a beginner portrait/wedding photographer. Currently have a SL3 with 50 1.8/85 1.4/ 70-200 2.8. Decent setup but it’s all second hand gear (except for body) I want to catch up with the full frame mirror less lineup The R6ii looks awesome, and this review might’ve helped me confirm my thoughts on this body. But as far as Glass goes. It’s hard. The ef85 1.4 is a great lens and I use it daily But also the RF50mm 1.2 looks very tempting though
Another great review!! Im using R6 for interior photography, and thinking on upgrading to R6 II, question is, is the R6 II able to shoot in AEB in electronic shutter mode. To my big surprize the R6 can not, and the R7 can. Since I shoot tons of photos, it would be good to have a camera that is able to shoot in electronic shutter in AEB mode to not wear it out :-)
Are you still unable to charge via USB-PD? Like others have said, it should work with any PD charger. To add a bit to the other comment mentioning 9V, what I've found testing myself is that USB-PD chargers work, even 18W ones (tested the Google one that came with my Pixel phone), but they charge at 5V 1.5A (7.5W), which is the old USB-BC 1.2 standard. They don't use any of the PD higher-wattage power rules. You can verify this with any USB-C power meter widely available. There are some USB-C chargers that aren't PD but they're scarce nowadays. They're 15W (5V 3A) and they don't work. USB-A ports also don't work, even though they're perfectly capable of supporting USB BC 1.2. For operating the camera by USB power, the requirements are higher, from my testing at least 9V 3A (which is the Canon charger's max spec), so pretty much any 30W charger, although the camera doesn't draw anywhere near that, I guess some high power video modes might peak close to it and Canon wanted some safety leeway. That's why I specifically bought the smallest 30W USB-PD power bank I could find. The Canon charger from what I've been able to find is just a vastly overpriced run of the mill USB-PD charger. It's hard to find much info about it since few people have it but I found a pic of its specs on this store: www.carousell.com.hk/p/canon-pd-e1-usb-power-adapter-usb-c-1168902643/
I was using several high end power systems (like a Bluetti AC70 or Anker SOLIX units) that can output signal anywhere up to 100W, and I don't have problem with other of my cameras)
@@DustinAbbottTWI yeah sorry I did read that you had capable chargers, was just wondering if you've been able to test again since those comments, cause I recently got my R6II and it's working with USB-PD with the caveats above, and IIRC it's the same behavior as the R which I've also tested, and it's kinda quirky since it requires USB-PD but it doesn't use the PD exclusive profiles, just uses the old BC 1.2 capability of 7.5W at 5V.
I would love to have a Canon R5, but my budget will not allow it, so would this camera be a good second choice? Video is not my thing, I'm more of a event and people hobbyist photographer, it that make since.
Hello Dustin. Does it make sense to upgrade from EOS R considering the 30 MP of the R ? Of course, one of the reasons would be autofocus but i do mostly landscape and very seldom other types of photography.
I shoot wildlife and especially birds in flight, and this camera has the best AF tracking of these fast moving subjects. I have eye detect on the back button and it works flawlessly. Better than the R, R6, R7 ... and mind you the Olympus OM-1 (which did better right up until now).
If you were to buy a camera today for documentary/ vlog content, what camera would you choose, fx3, ev-1, canon 6 mark ii, or any other suggestion. I also take pictures occasionally great content
I guess that really depends on how serious you are about editing your footage. The R6II is a good hybrid option, though it is held back a bit by the the micro-HDMI connector if you plan to run video directly out. I'd recommend the Sony a7IV, but I do find the crop factor in 4K60 a bit annoying.
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Would this be an upgrade from a 1dxii ? Seems like it
Has anyone had any issues with the SET button? Just bought mine and it spins a little with the wheel. And by a little, probably only 10-20 degrees, but enough to notice. Is that normal?
Brilliant observations, especially on new joystick shape... But terrible photos of the "event" 😉 and that "slow motion" of water... What happened there? That's not slowmo...
El enfoque es bueno pero le falta agilidad y la conexión usb-c a iPhone esta sobre el papel pero no es posible. En ningún tutorial ofrecen información de cuál cable u opción reallocate. No vale la pena pasar de r6 a r6 ii
LOL - this is the second comment I've responded to on this video today. The first was berating me for even bring that power switch up because it just isn't a big deal (according to them).
@@DustinAbbottTWI I use the R5 and every time I make the mistake of changing modes instead of power on on the r6mii. For ones who have started on the r6mii or now the r5mii, they will be happy.
The relative speed with which canon upgraded the original R6 (notice no similar R5 upgrade at the same time) would suggest it wasn’t their best effort. As an R6 owner I’m pretty unimpressed with the AF, the average build and the poor colours. Along with the limited and restrictive RF lens strategy I’m looking to move elsewhere after 30 years of Canon.
I can charge my R6II with a Samsung EP-TA845 charger and even with an ADATA P20000QCD power bank. However, Power Delivery only works with an USB-C to USB-C cable. It isn't possible to charge the R6II through an USB-A to USB-C cable.
I have about six different PD charging solutions, and the R6II didn't seem to work with any of them (even with USB-C to C cable and from the solutions that I charge the R5, Fuji, and Sony cameras).
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@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanku you for this precise information. Good to know. Probably Canon wants to sell more their own USB chargers ;)
I charge the battery both with its supplied canon charger but also with a simple USB-C cable from my samsung, on vacation the USB-C cable from your smartphone is enough
I don't understand why they don't have a three position switch - off/photo/video and do away with the on/off switch. Kill two birds with the one stone! (not that I'm advocating killing birds).
It's always funny when someone is talking about muscle memory. All they have to do is change their training. If the R6 mark ii is your first Canon R camera, nothing that was said is relevant.
Your point is well taken for someone who is not using muscle memory. However, developing the ability to reach for a control without thinking is a major advantage in using a camera, just like being able to touch type is very helpful when using a computer. One of the things I teach is that a camera should not get in the way of the process of image capture - having to consciously think where a control is does exactly that. Having to think about a control slows one down, so muscle memory is a great asset, especially for the dynamic words of sport and wildlife photography, where time is critical. I have been using Canon cameras for about 40 years, and the digital ones for about 20. Currently I use the 5DsR, R5, 2xR6 and now the R6MkII - which is the odd unit out. The on/off switch has been on the left for all the other bodies I use, so yes, I agree with Justin that it IS a thing. That said, I shall get over it, just as I get used to touch typing on different sized keyboards!
@@lbeetech Actually most camera makers go to some length to keep the controls consistent. Canon makes forays into different controls - the slide on the R, the concentric control ring on the R7 are a couple of examples. But it interesting to see how many other models these go on - so far none. Of course people are smart enough to work it out, but for a professional tool it is relatively rare to see such a change. 🙂
The R6m2 can shoot at up to only 12 fps with its mechanical shutter, yet the older, less expensive R7 and R8 both shoot at up to 15 fps with their mechanical shutters. Disappointing. The rolling shutter effects ruins most practical applications of all of their electronic shutters.
@DustinAbbottTWI Yes, absolutely, they certainly do. Yet despite this fact, the less expensive Canon EOS R8 and R7 have faster mechanical shutter frame rates (15 fps) than the more expensive newer Canon EOS R6m2 (only 12 fps). All three of these models maintain CAF and CAE tracking at their top mechanical shutter and electronic shutter frame rates. My guess is Canon will install the faster mechanical shutter mechanisms of the R8 (and R7) in a yet to be released new $3,000 EOS R6m3. Disappointing.
are you telling me that gone are the days when canon shooters had to expose to the right to avoid irrecoverable shadows? wow, so 1 stop underxposed defo the way forward for canon!
Dustin must have a medical problem he jumps all over a photo like someone that suffers from parkinson's we are unable to see what he is gabbing on about . Stop it dustin slow bloody down when you are trying to show us what you are on about. This does nothing for the review of the R6 mk II
Thanks Dustin, I really appreciate the logic and format of your review. My new R6 Mk2 arrives this morning and your review has confirmed my choice. I have upgraded from an RP and have been asked to do a shoot tomorrow evening at a church jubilee celebration. I have the RF24-105 F4L and the RF70-200 F4L as well as the RF50 1.8 stm. Your review has given me confidence in the kit for tomorrow evening and for many personal events in the rest of the year. Really enjoy your stuff and pleased to see you are connected to a Pentecostal Church in Canada.
as always, thanks for the effort and sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. i have read of moire concerns with the Canon R6mk2 in both video and stills. was that your experience? lastly, can the R6mk2 shoot 10bit video when NOT in C Log? thumbs up.
Re. Dynamic Range. It looks like it will benefit from running at minus 1 stop of EV. I tend to do that on my other Canon cameras. They recover shadows much better than highlights. Even -2Ev would be very possible in challenging conditions. What is really amazing is the high ISO look. 25600 the noise looks acceptable and as 12800 it's totally acceptable (I really don't mind noise when it looks like grain, and doesn't mess the colours). It means you can run-and-gun on Auto ISO right up to 12800 which is really handy for indoor events.
Great video Dustin, probably the best I have seen on the R6 II. This has really helped my buying decision especially the image and noise samples. Thank you.
I agree! Most reviewers glossed over or completely ignored this camera (including most of the big Canon ambassadors). This is the best hybrid camera in its price range right now and shockingly underrated and under reviewed.
Canon has great mirrorless camera bodies, but it’s more about the glass you use. I fully bought into the E-mount full frame ecosystem and love my G masters!
@@richrollin4867 Doesn't change the fact that Canon is imposing an artificial restriction on consumers in terms of lens selection. The wider opening of the R mount allows greater potential for exotic glass such as the RF 24-70 f/2.0, but it would have been interesting if 3rd party manufacturers were also allowed to introduce new lenses that would have only been possible on wider mounts such as Canon's R mount or the Nikon Z mount.
Debating with myself on whether I should go with the EF ii version of the 24-105 mm (which I could also use with my M50ii as well as this one and also maybe use a speedbooster with the M50 to increase the aperture to 2.8-haven't seen any samples of this though) or the RF version of the same lens which should be great but then I will not be able to use it in my M50ii. Any thoughts/suggestions in this regard? Thanks
That's a difficult question. The biggest weakness for the R7 is there is no glass for it. Canon needs more RF-S lenses desperately. I do think that the R6II has a slightly more sophisticated sensor, but $1500 is a lot of money. If you have a good lens in mind to put on the R7 for your work, then it will probably be fine.
The R6II should be able to charge from any USB-C PD capable source, including modern laptops. Powering it while using it does require a 9V charger, a PD 30W or better should work.
@@DustinAbbottTWI they sell the charger because it’s a very high margin, low effort accessory. As to why half your chargers won’t charge it: make sure the camera is turned off and check if the charger is actually PD, not just a regular charger with a usb-c plug. If that doesn’t improve the odds, the chargers don’t provide the voltages the camera wants. If that’s the case, Canon has likely increased the requirements since the R7. On my R5, the on/off switch makes a big difference between the requirements, in the ON position it wants 9V, in the OFF position it wants 5V. Your experience makes me suspect that the R6II requires 9V regardless of it being on or not.
With all due respect, Koen, I've reviewed dozens of cameras and also 7 or 8 power stations from different brands. I'm pretty familiar with the PD standard.
Hi Dustin, Do you experience a rattling sound (from IBIS unit ?) while moving/ shaking your R6-II in switched-off condition? Mine gives a loud/ noticeable rattling sound, doesn't look a standard design feature.
It's not unusual for there to be a bit of rattling from the IBIS, as it is designed to move around. I don't really do a lot of shaking of gear when I review it, though.
@@DustinAbbottTWI True true, I own both myself so could probably do the experiment but in actual use, I max out at 12,800 and the photos have noise but are usable for events and such. Would I blow em up for prints...nope but they're fine for digitals.
Hi Dustin: Really appreciate your review of Canon R6 Mk11. I sold my 5d Mk111 got a Canon 5DSR. I am really impressed with the high iso of the R6 Mk11. I usually shoot at iso 50, to minimize noise & set aperture 16 for depth of field to maximize for sharpness when i blow them up. So far i have been very pleased with the files. i usually take landscape pictures. Down the road, would you say keep my 5DSR or will i get similar results with the R6 mk11. Thanks for your reviews. Keith
Hi Keith, obviously the resolution doesn't compare, but the 5DsR is showing its age in other areas. I found the EOS R5 an excellent replacement for the 5DsR.
I found a hidden and surprisingly unadvertised bonus in the R6 mark 2, which is that you no longer have this small square that determines the area where AF will work when using the 600mm F11 and the 800mm F11. Instead, there is now a larger rectangle with something like 80% coverage, which is very useful.
That is helpful.
The R50 has this feature also 😎⚡️🤙
I can second that. AF area on these lenses is at least 80% of the viewfinder.
@@ralphsaad8637 Yes the RF800f11 has become more useful on the r6mii
I have just sold my 5D mk IV and bought R6mkII last week. And I am so satisfied with that change.
That's a solid transition.
Do you see any difference in image quality between these two cameras?
@@yr9645 yes... ISO is better in R6mII. In low light it's more satisfying. Sharpness is same. Both body's are both fast in autofocus
@@SerkanKayaMD Thanks
Why is the 5D lV still so expensive??
Every camera i have owned was bought based on Dustins reviews and have never been disappointed. Great work as always Dustin!
That's very gratifying to hear.
This is a great review as always. Thank you so much for your time and effort.
My pleasure!
Yes, I've found the noise at high ISO's seems to look more like film grain, so its quite usable with that look. Its the nasty multi-color noise that really ruins an image.
Exactly.
That chroma noise is removed by default in Lightroom, so is it really an issue?
@@DustinAbbottTWIGood question from @stubones below ⬇️
Thx 🙏 for an excellent 👌 review
Great job, Mr. Abbott - thank you a lot. Your review summarizes my experiences very clearly.
I bought this camera a few weeks ago to replace my 80D and all my expectations were met. Coming from an older system it`s hard to believe how far you can get with this camera. Great af und low-light performance. I use it with my EF-lenses.
I'm glad you are enjoying it!
Didyou purchase the ef to r converter yo use with your canon 6 m2. I also have many eos ef and fe lenses. Gary
Thanks for this excellent review! I've been a pro Canon shooter for 18 years and just got the R6 II in the fall. It is BY FAR THE BEST camera I've ever used! (I owned the Rebel, 20D, 30D, 1D Mark IIN, 1D Mark III, 5D Mark IV and EOS R).
I did a LOT of research and there is nothing that beats it in its price range. The A7IV is behind in almost every area besides advertised resolution (though upscaled to 33 MP the R6 II seems to outresolve the A7IV). The photo is way faster and more accurate on the R6 II.The video has full frame oversampled 4K 60 where the A7IV has an annoying APSC crop. The build on the R6 II is way better (as is the LCD) and the lens selection is just as good (with EF lenses working 100% as well as native glass).
Glad to see this review. The R6 Mark II is probably the most underrated camera of the past year. For some reason the A7IV and S5 II get so much attention despite being behind the R6 II in most areas. Almost NONE of the big channels did a review on this camera (aside from the Canon invite "pReviews"). Even the big Canon ambassadors like Pete Mckinnon, Irene Rudnyk, and Vanessa Joy did NO review of this cam (Irene didn't even mention it at all).
PS
2:43 - The weight is wrong. I blame BH for this and all the TH-camrs are getting this wrong. The R6 Mark III is 670g with battery compared to 680g of the R6. 588g is the weight without battery and this is almost never used (except BH got this wrong and everybody seems to get their info there).
That's interesting about the weight.
Great review! I find your review style informative and interesting to watch.
That's very kind. Thank you!
Rented this for a wedding, paired with the 28-70/f2. What a dream to work with coming from a EOS R. Auto Focus was superb. Definitely want to add this to the arsenal.
The autofocus accuracy (and ease) will spoil you for sure.
Thank you for this amazing review and it convinced me to make the decision to switch from my Sony A7ii to this amazing Canon R6 mkii. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I hope you're enjoying your new camera.
I love how u test gears! When i watched the slanted lens they saw a noisy image around 800 lol and fallen apart around 3200 lmao. On your test 25600 is still usable 👍💪💯
To be honest, ALL of the major manufacturers make great gear, if one cannot get decent results from any of them, it's likely not the camera. I shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony, and they all have their strengths. The major contributor to a great photo is the technical skill and creativity of the photographer.
That's very surprising, as I didn't find that at all.
I just watched the Slanted Lens video where he compares the R6 II to the Panasonic S5II. The pictures that he had on the video did show visible noise at ISO 800 and it did look bad at ISO 3200. Link to the video; th-cam.com/video/1fs_hkOa5TA/w-d-xo.html
in my opinion, as the r6 m2 being my first cam, i like the power button. it allows me to grab the cam naturally and turn it on one handedly. just my opinion as a first cam owner
And I think that's a legitimate point of view. The problem is if you own multiple cameras. I think as long as Canon sticks to this position, it will be fine.
I agree with you on the placement of the on/off switch. I don’t understand why so many reviewers have made such a big deal of how great having it on the right side is. I much prefer the on/off on the left side.
I've been surprised by how many people have been defending this change, myself.
The reason for the on/off switch move was because of a design fault on the original model, as it was prone to breaking off. This happened to me on a lightly used body which had no heavy use or handling - it simply broke off - and I wasn’t the only one to whom this happened. Apart from that it is a great camera, and I am even more pleased with the new model which has become my main body, with the original being kept as a second/spare.
Reviewers haven't been defending the placement of the switch, they've praised that it's now possible to change between photo and video with a dedicated switch AND utilize all the different modes for both photo and video.
There is significant advantage. Most of time camera will be resting on my right hand and will be off to save battery. when the right moment comes I can easily toggle the on button before looking thru viewfinder. Otherwise I have to my other hand to locate the button and on it. Saves few seconds and can be critical at times
As a person who hasn’t owned any other previous versions of canon camera, the new on/off switch makes so much sense. I can have one finger on the shutter button and my thumb to toggle between on/off, making it almost impossible to miss a moment and save battery life at the same time. For old canon users it’s a different story just because your muscle memory is playing tricks on you. Most people don’t like change so it’s expected. But the ergonomics of the new on/off switch makes so much more sense.
Thanks for this thorough, practical review. Coming from the 5D4 there is a lot to like: Great low-light performance, IBIS, flip out screen, uncropped 4K and no video time limits... Can you recall where Canon claims more detail over the 5D4?
Look at the product page on the Canon website.
James Reader did a great comparison of the R, R6 and R5. The difference in detail amoung all of them is negligable and the R6 II is even better than the R6. In comparisons I upscaled raw images from the R6 II to 45 MP (using LR/Adobe Camera Raw's Enhance feature) and the R6 II files overlayed on top or R5 files are more detailed. Even without the Enhance feature, just upscaling from ACR/LR to 45 MP, often the R6 II files look IDENTICAL to the R5 files when layered and zoomed in to 100% on a 5K monitor.
I owned the 5D IV and R and was worried about going down in MP. After doing all these tests I realized that MP is overrated and more of a marketing scheme right now. I have also printed giant billboard advertising for companies with 8 MP 1D Mark II files that looked INCREDIBLE so don't let people try to say that 24 MP is only good for social media.
@@77dris i agree, stepping up from 5dmkiv to R6 was a bit let down in mpx but everything else was way better. Few days ago came R6mkii, I went to do some portraits, they changed something in AF from R6, I was confused and thaught photos were not sharp on the eyes, went to editing, was worried as hell, still not sharp in selection, then I got it that emdedded preview was not reading full quailty image because all of the photos were perfect, its so much better than R6 and 5D mkiv, thats just insane. I really can't say enaugh how great it is. took me a few days to adjust my fingers on new on/off button and yes, new joystick sucks too as Dustin said. its just not good anymore, its too slippery and hard to control.
@@b2unoo7r6ii is better than 5d4 and r6 in resolution? any other improvements?
@@kevc.2958 its better in many ways, resolution is bot 30mpx but its so sharp it seems a lot better. AF can be confusing when coming frim older models but it works great.
Video is great too.
No more overheating apparently.
Connecting to phone is a breaze. Good value def.
Just ordered the R5 recently. Almost went with the r6ii as it's the newer camera but I really wanted to top screen, higher res evf and lcd, better build quality, 45mp and 4k120. Quite a bit more expensive but I reckon it'll keep its value until the r5mkii drops next year.
That's probably true.
I sold my 5D4 (after 7 years of use) and just picked up the R6ii. After playing with it the ibis is amazing and the AF system is amazing. I also love the extra dials and joystick. Speeds up the workflow for sure. I pair it up with my EOS-R shooting Weddings. After testing the R6ii now I want to replace my EOS-R
After taking a hiatus for a few years, its interesting to return to the fact that "spray and pray" is now an acceptable and standard practice. 40 fps, good lord.
LOL - well, you don't have shoot that many frames!
Excellent review and explanation as always. Thank you for your effort. I am happy to switch from 5D mark 4 to this machine.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice camera...waiting for the r5mkii myself
Me too.
Great review! I have the R6 right now and use it mostly only for portrait photography coupled with my older EF L prime lenses. In your opinion, do you think it is worth it to upgrade to the R6 mark II? I am mostly only concerned about the autofocus performance but it seems like the R6 hardly ever misses with eye detection and there may be a point of diminishing returns when it comes to autofocus improvements (i.e. you either hit the focus or you don't).
no.keep the R6
@@samarianosans absolutely agree. Keep the R6 , there is nothing here for R6 owners.
It will this way for awhile.
R1 is backburner due to US war on semicon.
Canon has no more cash to burn. Very sad.
If you're happy with the R6 (AF and resolution), then you can probably stick with what you have.
@@maximme I had an R6I. I dumped it. It overheated all the time.
Also :30 record limit is a problem
I switched from Nikon Z50 to Canon R6 Mark II.
Lenses I own
RF 24-105 f4 IS USM
RF 16mm f2.8 STM
RF 35mm f1.8 STM
RF 85mm f2 STM
Enjoy!
5:14 Adapter? I just purchased the R62 and one of the first things I did was charge the battery in camera with a random USB C cable.
I tested it with multiple options and without success...and Canon lists a charging adapter for in-camera charging...so lucky you!
@@DustinAbbottTWI it probably has requirements for minimum output, so I guess "the adapter" they are referring to is just a charging brick (like for a phone charger).
You have to plug that USB-C into something, so what are you plugging it in? A PC or a laptop won't suffice, as the output is too low over USB ports, unless you build a PC with a fancy motherboard which usually has one high-power port, but that's kind of a rarity.
I had the EOS R, and it did not want to charge with a phone charger that was 18W, but did want to charge with a charger that provided 33W. Even phones will sometimes refuse to charge if the output is too low because it's not good for the battery but usually they provide more leeway. For instance that phone which came with the 33W charger was totally fine with charging with that other 18W charger, but it would just charge at close to half the speed.
@@Mikri90 I have a number of power stations that can output as much as 100W over USB-C, so I was surprised I had issues. Sometimes it can be a power cable, too, though.
@@DustinAbbottTWI it might be the cable then.
I mean too much power can also be an issue depending on the device (there is always a lower and upper limit) but I would guess the R6 mk II would be smart enough to just pass as much power as it needs.
If a cable is too slow or at least non-compliant with Canon's spec that could be a problem.
That said, if they indeed made a downgrade in this regard that would be a real shame. I would have to look into it more.
@@DustinAbbottTWI
It has to be usb-c on both ends and support power delivery as far as I remember
I really prefer having the on-off switch on the right hand side. That's only an issue for people coming from the older bodies. Looking at the R5mII, that seems to be how Canon bodies are going to be for the next generation anyway. Apart from that minor unnecessary rant, great review. Thank you! :)
As long as Canon sticks with a standard, I agree, but I certainly don't want them swapping around.
Great review, as always. Love the camera. Coming from Sony, the only thing Canon needs to work on is dynamic range (especially in video) and quieter lenses. Sony is quite a bit better in both of these areas. Canon RF lenses are much louder than Sony GM lenses. The constant focus "ticking" noise makes them almost unusable in a quiet environment with an on-board mic. Hopefully their RF II series of lenses will be GM silent.
It's ironic, as at first the "big advantage" was going to be RF glass (the first EOS R cameras weren't impressive). Now the cameras are great, but the lenses are the weak point.
@@DustinAbbottTWI totally.
Great overview thanks
Another wonderful analysis by the thorough and considered Dustin, who is quickly becoming one of the go to reviewers. Indeed it was this video that actually sealed my decision to purchase the R6 mark 2. However, this decision for me appears to have been a mistake. Here is the reason. Broadly speaking there are two categories of Canon users. The first is that group who already own a set of high quality and expensive EF L lenses, and who are not willing to upgrade what are otherwise excellent lenses, and the second group who are either willing to upgrade to the RF line or who do not already own EF L lenses. I fall into the former category. So when I purchased the R6 mark 2 I also purchased the EF-R adapter. This has been problematic from the very first day. In fact, after I unboxed the camera, charged the battery, and connected the adapter, my EF L lenses did not work. The screen simply displayed '00' for the aperture and the lenses would not focus. I swapped the EF-R adapter. This new adapter worked, although the camera store could not find an issue with the original adapter and could only replicate the issue on my camera, suggesting that the problem followed the camera not the adapter itself. This then led to a second problem: my EF zoom lenses in particular would lose focus and then lock up such that they only way to recover was to reset the camera itself. The two lenses involved were the EF 70-200 IS F4 L and the macro 100mm IS L. The EF 50mm F1.8 did not have this problem, the cheapest of the cheap in my collection. I dug into this issue online and noted that I was not the only person experiencing this issue and the solution that seemed to work was to return it to Canon for a warranty 'fix'. So this is where my camera is currently. Of course others mileage might differ and it might be that my camera has a fault but that fact that this problem is a topic in various fora does perhaps suggest that the EF-R adapter route is slightly buggy. I make no comment on how my camera would work with an RF 70-200 F4 L because I am simply unwilling to fork out money to replace an already excellent lens. My current plan, once the camera is checked out by Canon, is to trade it in and try my luck with the Nikon line instead (my wife is committed to Nikon so I will negotiate borrowing her lenses).
Wow - that's actually really unusual in my experience. I still have a few EF lenses that I routinely test via adapter when I test new R bodies, and I haven't seen that with Canon lenses (sometimes with third party lenses)
@@DustinAbbottTWI The issue with the new EF-R adapter is solely with zoom lenses not my 50mm, 24mm or my sigma art 35mm. I suspect the AF on the camera but will update once Canon gets back to me. Thanks again for your reviews, and for your response.
i use the r6ii with my ef 70-200 f4 L non IS. and i dont have any of the problems you stated. all my lenses were EF but now im slowly moving to RF. RF lenses provide the max 40fps the r6ii is capable of. most EF lenses are not fast enough for 40fps. what i like about EF lenses is theyre made like tanks, durable, RF lenses are mostly strong plastic, but i do like the lightweight and feel of RF lenses. BUT ive had my r6ii lock up few times, and i had to remove the battery. most happened when i was using third party batteries, it also happened one time with original battery i was bursting at 40fps and it just froze, with rf 100-400 lens. so honestly i wouldnt say its most robust camera but im enjoying it. i hope you find what works for you. in 99.9% of the times, i dont have any problem and ive had this camera since launch.
@@truthseeker6804 Thanks for your response! The issue is I think with my camera. It was kind of wonky out of the box and as I mentioned I was able to demonstrate its inability to use the EF-R adaptor in the store. The freezing of the EF zoom lenses causing a camera lock up, the second issue I mentioned, is a no go for me and if Canon cannot fix it or cannot see an issue with it then I will trade it in. But I will update when I get it back.
5:43 Are you sure it's 1080p? In case of HDMI there are no doubts, but I believe USB with WebCam Utility only delivers up to 1024x576 (which is just a quarter of 1080p) with simple software upscaling to 1080p which is obviously not equal in quality to real 1080p... That was the last I heard and that's how it works with any Canon camera that has LiveView and USB port. I mean mini and micro USB. Would be glad to be proved wrong about this USB-C here...
From Canon USA website: UVC/UAC compatibility allows the EOS R6 Mark II to be used as a web camera and stream live video in Full HD
One thing you didn’t touch on which is highly important, especially for event shooters. How is it photographing a wedding reception with disco lights on, does the auto focus hunt? My R is terrible especially when there’s movement.
I didn't shoot in a disco ball environment, so I can't comment on that. That's a pretty specific case study. Just know that the autofocus of the R is nothing like the more recent cameras. They are in a whole other class.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks Dustin. You shoot weddings and event primarily right? What Canon mirrorless cameras work just as well as the 5d4/1dx2 for a reception autofocus wise?
Dustin you are the most amazing reviewer I have ever known!!! I know your not in to Nikon very much would you like to do a review with my z9 and 85 1.2
Well
Thank you, JR. I really don't have time to add any other systems right now, but I appreciate the offer (I've currently got 7 lenses, one camera, plus accessories to review already!!)
@@DustinAbbottTWI it’s here if you ever want too.
excellent review.. thanks for the valuable efforts... one question , does IBIS really useful and worth to consider ? currently i am using EOS R and sigma 135mm f1.8 art.. sometimes the photos results from telephoto lens were bit shaky even subject was not moving.. planning to upgrade R6 II, if IBIS worth considering .. whats your opinion ? thanks
Great stuff here and definitely food for thought. As someone who has been perfectly happy with my Canon DSLRs, I really haven't given much thought to moving to mirrorless. I mainly use my 7D2 with a 24-105, and my 1DX3 with a 100-400. I also use a 20D, as well as my original 300D which I've had for 20 years now, and which is just too much of an old friend for me to discard it. But I've been doing some research, and it seems like an R6 Mk II may be a very nice addition to my camera bag. Save for a Tokina 19-35mm that I've had for years, and a soon-to-come Sigma 100-600C, all of my lenses are Canon EF or EF-S. It's nice to know that with the EF-RF adapter I can still use these lenses. So, I'm still not quite sure, but the scales seem to be tipping toward the R62. Christmas is coming...
That's fair.
I been thinking of getting one for astro landscape photography also it looks a good all rounder, at the moment i'm using the old 6D and its been brilliant also I have taken dragonflies in flight astro pics also its built like a tank.
What are your thoughts on this camera vs the R5? Is the resolution of the R5 its only benefit over the R6 Mark II or do you see other elements that make it a better camera (in event situations, like weddings)?
Love how Canon handles high ISO noise. They keep things very sharp with a fine grain. Much prefer it over blotchy, smudgy, blurry noise reduction high ISO.
For sure.
excellent review as usual Dustin! what do you think about this camera for weddings?
Should work great. Great autofocus, good low light performance, detailed sensor (even if not super high resolution).
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you
This is an outstanding review .
Thank you
I am so conflicted! I'm still a DSLR shooter, and really not in a rush to go mirrorless, but am leaning that way now. If this R6mkII had come out with a 30MP sensor I think I'd be owning it today. The fact that it only went to 24 has me conflicted between this and the R5. Of course now the R5 has just come out with a mkII version, so I guess I'll continue to wait while all the early adopters sort out what's what.
This is typical of Canon though. They always intentionally handicap a lower model to push you toward a higher one. They did this with DSLRs too, and it's a bit frustrating. I personally don't feel I need 45MP, but since my shooting often results in having to crop in a lot, I want better than 24. Canon knows many people sit in that gap between the two, and they could have closed it with a 30MP sensor.
That's fair. Canon is perhaps the most protectionist camera maker on the scene right now.
The R6 ii has two, maybe three depending on your needs, major flaws (for sports). 1: The sensor readout speed; while improved over the R6 and R5, its too slow for fast paced sports to use the electronic shutter/ES. You simply cannot get around the fact a fast moving round ball will go oval. You either use mechanical shutter/MS (I use elec first curtain) or live with misshapen balls 🤣 pun intended. 2. Once battery charge drops to below +- 40% the camera's frame rate drops dramatically using the MS. Using a BG-R10 with two batteries largely negates this issue. Neither of these though, is an issue with the R3. Yes, you might see a tiny amount of Rolling shutter distortion using the R3, but you'd have to look closely to see it. For nature photography, the ES is more viable since nature very rarely has uniform shapes like straight lines or perfect circles so its far less noticeable. 3. Another issue for the ES is the fact 40 or 20fps is overkill and 5fps isn't enough. The 15fps of the R3 ES in H mode is a sweet spot. the 12fps of the MS in both cameras is more than enough, let's be honest, but the point of a Mirrorless body with ES, is to be able to use the ES, all the time if you'd like to. I'd prefer not to have to wear out the MS, but I guess I have to pick and choose the times its viable, something I wouldn't have to do with the R3.
That's some great info. Thanks for sharing!
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks for your great reviews 👍
Hi Dustin, really fantastic review. Did you had a chance to try if silent electronic shutter would still cause banding? I believe the sensor readout of this is 14ms so might be just usable for indoor ambient lighting, like indoor weddings with silent shutter?
Hmmm, I don't recall testing that application.
great useful review! Thanks
You're welcome.
The much longer times before overheating (60 mins vs 20mins in 180P) compared to the r8 might make it worth paying the extra for
That's one of the reasons, yes.
I will order an R6-MkII the minute Canon announces 3rd party lens have the green light. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my R7 even with it's limitations along with the small handful of lenses I've found to be affordable.
So true.
Great review. I have this camera in my sights. Currently I have a Eos R.
It's a nice upgrade from the EOS R
Thanks for this review. I've been waiting for your take on the Mark II. I'm amazed this video only has 30 views in 2 weeks.
It is actually not public yet. I just let those that read my text reviews see early access kind of like an Easter egg.
I'm so happy that ur review is finally here. Quite curious about the performance of adapting the EF100-400mm II L lens against RF 100-500mm on the R6 Mark II too. What are your thoughts?😂
I found that the 100-400L II continues to perform very well.
All of this to say,
Should I buy the prime lens like 35, 50, 85, and 100macro?
Or should I spoil myself and get a 28-70f2 for the 1 stop shop lens?
Nice form on the layup! 😂😂😂
LOL
Thanks for video!
You're welcome.
I recently purchased this Canon R6 Mark II Full Frame Mirrorless
Also, Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC Lens for Canon EF
And Samyang 100mm f/2.8 ED UMC Macro Lens for Canon EF
And of course, the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R
But when I attach either of these lenses using the adapter of course, nothing happens when I press the Shutter Button. Not even a sound. The camera does not take picture.
What am I doing wrong?
Enjoy
Man I need some help y’all.
So I’m a beginner portrait/wedding photographer.
Currently have a SL3 with 50 1.8/85 1.4/ 70-200 2.8.
Decent setup but it’s all second hand gear (except for body)
I want to catch up with the full frame mirror less lineup
The R6ii looks awesome, and this review might’ve helped me confirm my thoughts on this body.
But as far as Glass goes. It’s hard.
The ef85 1.4 is a great lens and I use it daily
But also the RF50mm 1.2 looks very tempting though
The RF 50mm is a very nice lens, so I think you'll be good using your other lenses via adapter as you save towards the excellent RF 50mm.
Another great review!! Im using R6 for interior photography, and thinking on upgrading to R6 II, question is, is the R6 II able to shoot in AEB in electronic shutter mode. To my big surprize the R6 can not, and the R7 can. Since I shoot tons of photos, it would be good to have a camera that is able to shoot in electronic shutter in AEB mode to not wear it out :-)
That's a specific case that I didn't test, and I don't own the camera, so I can't tell you the answer.
I was setting up my monitor constantly , but later found that this video has focus on ipad and not on your face :/
I am on the fence between r62 or the r5 help
me too. fits of indecision.
Are you still unable to charge via USB-PD? Like others have said, it should work with any PD charger. To add a bit to the other comment mentioning 9V, what I've found testing myself is that USB-PD chargers work, even 18W ones (tested the Google one that came with my Pixel phone), but they charge at 5V 1.5A (7.5W), which is the old USB-BC 1.2 standard. They don't use any of the PD higher-wattage power rules. You can verify this with any USB-C power meter widely available.
There are some USB-C chargers that aren't PD but they're scarce nowadays. They're 15W (5V 3A) and they don't work. USB-A ports also don't work, even though they're perfectly capable of supporting USB BC 1.2.
For operating the camera by USB power, the requirements are higher, from my testing at least 9V 3A (which is the Canon charger's max spec), so pretty much any 30W charger, although the camera doesn't draw anywhere near that, I guess some high power video modes might peak close to it and Canon wanted some safety leeway. That's why I specifically bought the smallest 30W USB-PD power bank I could find.
The Canon charger from what I've been able to find is just a vastly overpriced run of the mill USB-PD charger. It's hard to find much info about it since few people have it but I found a pic of its specs on this store: www.carousell.com.hk/p/canon-pd-e1-usb-power-adapter-usb-c-1168902643/
I was using several high end power systems (like a Bluetti AC70 or Anker SOLIX units) that can output signal anywhere up to 100W, and I don't have problem with other of my cameras)
@@DustinAbbottTWI yeah sorry I did read that you had capable chargers, was just wondering if you've been able to test again since those comments, cause I recently got my R6II and it's working with USB-PD with the caveats above, and IIRC it's the same behavior as the R which I've also tested, and it's kinda quirky since it requires USB-PD but it doesn't use the PD exclusive profiles, just uses the old BC 1.2 capability of 7.5W at 5V.
I would love to have a Canon R5, but my budget will not allow it, so would this camera be a good second choice? Video is not my thing, I'm more of a event and people hobbyist photographer, it that make since.
Definitely. This is a strong camera.
Hello Dustin. Does it make sense to upgrade from EOS R considering the 30 MP of the R ? Of course, one of the reasons would be autofocus but i do mostly landscape and very seldom other types of photography.
I would say this is a safe upgrade in most every way. The resolution drop isn't so big as to be a deal breaker.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you, I will think about it then !
Would you prefer this camera over the r7 for wildlife and birds in flight?
Personally, yes
The IBIS wobbles on wide lenses feels like a recall level defect. It can sometimes render footage on focal lengths under 35mm unusable.
It's an odd thing.
canon updated the camera to improve the wobble, but also make sure your Lens has IS, and turn on digital stabilization.
I shoot wildlife and especially birds in flight, and this camera has the best AF tracking of these fast moving subjects. I have eye detect on the back button and it works flawlessly. Better than the R, R6, R7 ... and mind you the Olympus OM-1 (which did better right up until now).
The AF is very impressive.
If you were to buy a camera today for documentary/ vlog content, what camera would you choose, fx3, ev-1, canon 6 mark ii, or any other suggestion. I also take pictures occasionally great content
FX3 is superior videocam, ZV-E1 is a toy. R6ii is a hybrid.
Hope this clears up your mind
I guess that really depends on how serious you are about editing your footage. The R6II is a good hybrid option, though it is held back a bit by the the micro-HDMI connector if you plan to run video directly out. I'd recommend the Sony a7IV, but I do find the crop factor in 4K60 a bit annoying.
Would this be an upgrade from a 1dxii ? Seems like it
In some ways, yes. You'll probably find a few areas where you still prefer the ergonomics of your old camera.
Has anyone had any issues with the SET button? Just bought mine and it spins a little with the wheel. And by a little, probably only 10-20 degrees, but enough to notice. Is that normal?
That's not something I saw.
Is there any shutter shock when using full mechanical shutter?
If you are talking vibration, I found the shutter fairly well damped.
Brilliant observations, especially on new joystick shape... But terrible photos of the "event" 😉 and that "slow motion" of water... What happened there? That's not slowmo...
El enfoque es bueno pero le falta agilidad y la conexión usb-c a iPhone esta sobre el papel pero no es posible. En ningún tutorial ofrecen información de cuál cable u opción reallocate. No vale la pena pasar de r6 a r6 ii
Do you think this camera would be good for portraits?
Definitely. Great autofocus, good detail.
How about R 8? Please review R 8 or compare with R 6 mark2 and R 7
I do hope to get to the R8 at some point, but at the moment my schedule is full
Nice video I have the Canon or I like it because of the 30 megapixels should I upgrade to the canon R 6 MK II
The R6 MK II is a more robust camera in many ways, so I'd probably make that move if you don't mind the drop in resolution.
@@DustinAbbottTWI ThAnk u 🙏
No image gallery?
R6 mii is great. However I hate the power switch change from R5. I keep on making the mistake
LOL - this is the second comment I've responded to on this video today. The first was berating me for even bring that power switch up because it just isn't a big deal (according to them).
@@DustinAbbottTWI I use the R5 and every time I make the mistake of changing modes instead of power on on the r6mii. For ones who have started on the r6mii or now the r5mii, they will be happy.
When R8 have the same senor like r6 II should i buy R8 instead of eos R?
I haven’t tested the R8 yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some advantages in a camera that is considerably newer like the R8
I'm curious about the 6k video. You glossed over it. What's involved?
The 6K is not recorded internally but can be output via HDMI. It wasn't an application that I personally tested.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Coming from an old T2I, there's A LOT for me to uncover in this camera! :)
EOS Elan film user here: I never used anything more than 800 ISO! How can this thing do 51,000 ISO and looks about as good as 800 ISO in the old days?
It is pretty remarkable. That's one area where cameras have really, really advanced.
The relative speed with which canon upgraded the original R6 (notice no similar R5 upgrade at the same time) would suggest it wasn’t their best effort. As an R6 owner I’m pretty unimpressed with the AF, the average build and the poor colours. Along with the limited and restrictive RF lens strategy I’m looking to move elsewhere after 30 years of Canon.
That's unfortunate. I'm a little puzzled at some of Canon's design decisions myself, though I do like my R5.
Would you buy this over the Sony a7IV?
In a vacuum, perhaps, but when you consider all of the lenses at different price points available for Sony, then I'd choose the a7IV.
Hi, what is that tripod set up?
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
USB port require the adapter to charge battery in camera? I thought that any PD charger can be used.
Me too...
I can charge my R6II with a Samsung EP-TA845 charger and even with an ADATA P20000QCD power bank. However, Power Delivery only works with an USB-C to USB-C cable. It isn't possible to charge the R6II through an USB-A to USB-C cable.
I have about six different PD charging solutions, and the R6II didn't seem to work with any of them (even with USB-C to C cable and from the solutions that I charge the R5, Fuji, and Sony cameras).
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanku you for this precise information. Good to know. Probably Canon wants to sell more their own USB chargers ;)
I charge the battery both with its supplied canon charger but also with a simple USB-C cable from my samsung, on vacation the USB-C cable from your smartphone is enough
can i download raw files of this somewhere?
I'm afraid not. I don't share my RAW files.
@@DustinAbbottTWI lol why
Wait for the R63?
If you've got three years, sure.
It’s not a larger sensor. It’s full-frame, just like the original R6.
I'm not sure what you are referring to. It's higher resolution, yes, but Canon makes no larger sensor and no one is saying otherwise
At 8:23 the review states that the mark II has a larger sensor.
I don't understand why they don't have a three position switch - off/photo/video and do away with the on/off switch. Kill two birds with the one stone! (not that I'm advocating killing birds).
I'm with you on that.
They do with the r7.
Yup, the R7 does and I honestly love it, with they'd just standardize their designs
If you miss your exposition by 4 or 5 stops, you should switch careers but i catch your drift this being a lab test.
Right - it's more about how much latitude you might have in recovering information in the shadows on a normal shot.
It's always funny when someone is talking about muscle memory. All they have to do is change their training. If the R6 mark ii is your first Canon R camera, nothing that was said is relevant.
Your point is well taken for someone who is not using muscle memory. However, developing the ability to reach for a control without thinking is a major advantage in using a camera, just like being able to touch type is very helpful when using a computer.
One of the things I teach is that a camera should not get in the way of the process of image capture - having to consciously think where a control is does exactly that. Having to think about a control slows one down, so muscle memory is a great asset, especially for the dynamic words of sport and wildlife photography, where time is critical.
I have been using Canon cameras for about 40 years, and the digital ones for about 20. Currently I use the 5DsR, R5, 2xR6 and now the R6MkII - which is the odd unit out. The on/off switch has been on the left for all the other bodies I use, so yes, I agree with Justin that it IS a thing. That said, I shall get over it, just as I get used to touch typing on different sized keyboards!
@@trevor9934 They are all different in some ways. I imagine photographers are smart enough to figure it out...
@@trevor9934 If everything stayed the same, how would there ever be progress?
Agree. Those can be trained fairly quickly. If anyone feels reluctant to adapt and change.........why live at all?
@@lbeetech Actually most camera makers go to some length to keep the controls consistent. Canon makes forays into different controls - the slide on the R, the concentric control ring on the R7 are a couple of examples. But it interesting to see how many other models these go on - so far none.
Of course people are smart enough to work it out, but for a professional tool it is relatively rare to see such a change. 🙂
The R6m2 can shoot at up to only 12 fps with its mechanical shutter, yet the older, less expensive R7 and R8 both shoot at up to 15 fps with their mechanical shutters.
Disappointing.
The rolling shutter effects ruins most practical applications of all of their electronic shutters.
Mechanical shutters remain limited in bursts by the physics of the moving parts.
@DustinAbbottTWI
Yes, absolutely, they certainly do.
Yet despite this fact, the less expensive Canon EOS R8 and R7 have faster mechanical shutter frame rates (15 fps) than the more expensive newer Canon EOS R6m2 (only 12 fps).
All three of these models maintain CAF and CAE tracking at their top mechanical shutter and electronic shutter frame rates.
My guess is Canon will install the faster mechanical shutter mechanisms of the R8 (and R7) in a yet to be released new $3,000 EOS R6m3.
Disappointing.
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are you telling me that gone are the days when canon shooters had to expose to the right to avoid irrecoverable shadows? wow, so 1 stop underxposed defo the way forward for canon!
Pretty much.
E O S. Not eeeehaws
I'm not sure you've ever listened to a Canon rep, as my pronunciation is their pronunciation.
Too big. Only thing preventing me from buying it. 👎
Interesting, as I personally strongly prefer this body size to smaller cameras.
Dustin must have a medical problem he jumps all over a photo like someone that suffers from parkinson's we are unable to see what he is gabbing on about . Stop it dustin slow bloody down when you are trying to show us what you are on about. This does nothing for the review of the R6 mk II
Thanks Dustin, I really appreciate the logic and format of your review. My new R6 Mk2 arrives this morning and your review has confirmed my choice. I have upgraded from an RP and have been asked to do a shoot tomorrow evening at a church jubilee celebration. I have the RF24-105 F4L and the RF70-200 F4L as well as the RF50 1.8 stm. Your review has given me confidence in the kit for tomorrow evening and for many personal events in the rest of the year. Really enjoy your stuff and pleased to see you are connected to a Pentecostal Church in Canada.
That's awesome. Happy shooting...and God bless!
as always, thanks for the effort and sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. i have read of moire concerns with the Canon R6mk2 in both video and stills. was that your experience? lastly, can the R6mk2 shoot 10bit video when NOT in C Log? thumbs up.
I didn't notice any significant moire issues myself. I don't recall the answer to your second question, as the camera was a loaner.
Re. Dynamic Range. It looks like it will benefit from running at minus 1 stop of EV. I tend to do that on my other Canon cameras. They recover shadows much better than highlights. Even -2Ev would be very possible in challenging conditions.
What is really amazing is the high ISO look. 25600 the noise looks acceptable and as 12800 it's totally acceptable (I really don't mind noise when it looks like grain, and doesn't mess the colours).
It means you can run-and-gun on Auto ISO right up to 12800 which is really handy for indoor events.
Agreed all around.
Great video Dustin, probably the best I have seen on the R6 II. This has really helped my buying decision especially the image and noise samples. Thank you.
Glad to hear it!
I agree! Most reviewers glossed over or completely ignored this camera (including most of the big Canon ambassadors). This is the best hybrid camera in its price range right now and shockingly underrated and under reviewed.
Canon has great mirrorless camera bodies, but it’s more about the glass you use. I fully bought into the E-mount full frame ecosystem and love my G masters!
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Doesn't change the fact that Canon is imposing an artificial restriction on consumers in terms of lens selection.
The wider opening of the R mount allows greater potential for exotic glass such as the RF 24-70 f/2.0, but it would have been interesting if 3rd party manufacturers were also allowed to introduce new lenses that would have only been possible on wider mounts such as Canon's R mount or the Nikon Z mount.
Exactly right. Right now the Sony ecosystem as a whole is the most interesting to me.
@@IndigoEyePhotography Canon has opened up their RF mount to certain third parties and will likely open it up to more soon
Debating with myself on whether I should go with the EF ii version of the 24-105 mm (which I could also use with my M50ii as well as this one and also maybe use a speedbooster with the M50 to increase the aperture to 2.8-haven't seen any samples of this though) or the RF version of the same lens which should be great but then I will not be able to use it in my M50ii. Any thoughts/suggestions in this regard? Thanks
Who’s really love to know if you thought the r6ii is worth $1500 over the r7? I’m a landscape photographer and the AF/video specs are lost on me.
That's a difficult question. The biggest weakness for the R7 is there is no glass for it. Canon needs more RF-S lenses desperately. I do think that the R6II has a slightly more sophisticated sensor, but $1500 is a lot of money. If you have a good lens in mind to put on the R7 for your work, then it will probably be fine.
Hi may I know what’s that tripod u use on ur R6 mkii in this video?
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
Let the light in. I see what you did there brother. Amen. 😊
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The R6II should be able to charge from any USB-C PD capable source, including modern laptops. Powering it while using it does require a 9V charger, a PD 30W or better should work.
Hmmm, then why do they sell the adapter, and why does it not charge off all of my USB-C PD options (I've got a half dozen)
@@DustinAbbottTWI they sell the charger because it’s a very high margin, low effort accessory. As to why half your chargers won’t charge it: make sure the camera is turned off and check if the charger is actually PD, not just a regular charger with a usb-c plug. If that doesn’t improve the odds, the chargers don’t provide the voltages the camera wants. If that’s the case, Canon has likely increased the requirements since the R7. On my R5, the on/off switch makes a big difference between the requirements, in the ON position it wants 9V, in the OFF position it wants 5V. Your experience makes me suspect that the R6II requires 9V regardless of it being on or not.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Some people are lazy...
@@KoenKooi Power Delivery Chargers of at least 30 to 40 watts work
With all due respect, Koen, I've reviewed dozens of cameras and also 7 or 8 power stations from different brands. I'm pretty familiar with the PD standard.
Hi Dustin, Do you experience a rattling sound (from IBIS unit ?) while moving/ shaking your R6-II in switched-off condition? Mine gives a loud/ noticeable rattling sound, doesn't look a standard design feature.
It's not unusual for there to be a bit of rattling from the IBIS, as it is designed to move around. I don't really do a lot of shaking of gear when I review it, though.
Yeah that's fine, the IBIS when unpowered is free to move around, once the camera turns on the noose should completely go away
It also would have been great to see some comparisons between R5 and older R6 if you had them?
I do have the R5, but not the original R6. The problem with adding comparisons is that it makes the videos longer and longer
@@DustinAbbottTWI True true, I own both myself so could probably do the experiment but in actual use, I max out at 12,800 and the photos have noise but are usable for events and such. Would I blow em up for prints...nope but they're fine for digitals.
Hi Dustin: Really appreciate your review of Canon R6 Mk11. I sold my 5d Mk111 got a Canon 5DSR. I am really impressed with the high iso of the R6 Mk11. I usually shoot at iso 50, to minimize noise & set aperture 16 for depth of field to maximize for sharpness when i blow them up. So far i have been very pleased with the files. i usually take landscape pictures. Down the road, would you say keep my 5DSR or will i get similar results with the R6 mk11. Thanks for your reviews. Keith
Hi Keith, obviously the resolution doesn't compare, but the 5DsR is showing its age in other areas. I found the EOS R5 an excellent replacement for the 5DsR.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you Dustin