For a 5-6 years old camera, the 5D4 holds pretty well over time. Yes, it's older and it's normal that new cameras get better and better. But the 5D4 is still a serious camera.
I've had my 5D Mk3 for years and it's an absolute work animal. I reckon, it'll stay in my camera bag for a long time, even after i switch to mirrorless.
I would say an used 5D4 is the best deal today. Money vs performance is best. I would not worry about RF lenses. Even so, EF lenses should sell pretty cheap soon.
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My main camera is the Canon R5. Unfortunately I had to send it in for repairs due to a loose hot shoe. My 2nd camera is a 5Dmk4, but I decided to buy an R6 because the mirrorless AF/live view is just great. After shooting w/ the R6 for 2 weeks daily I am happy about everything except for the resolution. I think this camera is made for people who mainly shoot web-content. If my clients want to do print ads etc, I grab the 5d4 purely for the resolution.
Without even watching, the 5D4 video files are too big and the R6 overheats. Avoid both and waut for R62 or even RP2 (but with LPE6 battery, not the horendous LPE17)
Excellent review. I am in need of a camera upgrade and your point by point comparison is spot on. You broke down all of the issues I was concerned with and more. Thank you.
Hi Kevin. You're amazing and detailed analysis and views on both gears are astonishing. It's easy to understand. This channel is highly recommended, deserve a follow. Kudos.
Just sold my 5D body. After getting the R6 I never reached for it. I didn’t feel like holding on to it was worth it so i out the money towards rf85 1.2. Literally a dream
How do you find the raw files of the r6? I’ve heard the raw colors strong out of the markiv are better especially beacuse of the canon profiles! Have you noticed ?
Great video tutorial. I love the pace and how you don’t have a lot of “um s”. Great production values and tons of succinct information. Really glad to have run across you. Subscribed.
Thank you Kevin, this is what a comparison test should always be. Said that, I never shoot videos; I like travel/landscape photography and indoor-tragic-light basket photography; in the second case I have to often shoot at 20/32.000 ISO, even with a 2.8 L lens. So I'm still a bit uncertain about the upgrade to the 6R, but I'll probably do it very soon. Thank you again Luigi
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Thanks for that comparison. Ultimately, your first question is if you need to make any changes. If you've mastered your 5D and you're getting the results you need, put the wallet back in your pocket. If you're a pro and you do a lot of video, perhaps the 5D is now your back up camera. As a pro once told me: 'there's a lot of expensive equipment out there capturing mediocre images'. Yes, it is refreshing to see Canon finally innovating again (thanks to Sony), and with competition intensifying, it means innovate or die. So, the R6 you have now will probably get to the '5D phase' a lot sooner than your 5D did. With Sony discounting their models on a regular basis, you can bet the R6 (and R5) will be declining in price too...and more than 300.00. So if you don't really need it right now...be patient. In the meantime, let's see what Canon does with the R3 !!
I'm not so sure about that price development. I own my 5D mark IV three years now, and the price difference between what I paid and the price now is € 200,- The R6 stayed on the same price level pretty much the whole first year. I think Canon is counting on the loyalty of users just because they already own the glass. (Although with that in mind I feel they should have thrown in that EF-RF-adapter for free). I for one are still using my EF lenses and I don't plan on replacing them since I think they are absolutely wonderful and I still use the 5D IV alongside the R6...
I own both, and even though I love the great features of the R6 over the 5DMK4, I'm keeping both. The 5DMK4 is a war horse build to last and I'm used to its buttons, dials and wheels. It's been a great camera for 3 yrs for me.. But I also have to admit that the focusing system, the eye detection, the EVF, and the flip screen of the R6 are game changers for me. Thanks for the good video 👍
@@seancoombes3446 - Hi Sean. All I have is EF "L" lenses and they all work flawlessly with the adapter. Focusing is fast and accurate, I would say this was the feature that appealed me the most when I rented the R6 before I bought it. I'd advice you to rent it first if your in doubt but I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I was debating between the R5 and the R6 just because of the sensor resolution as 20MP were not too appealing to me, but I have not had any issues with it and I have done some (moderate) cropping with my pictures with great results. Well, I could go on but I think this answers you question, Sean. The R6, in my opinion, is superior to the 5DMK4 I've been using for several years and I simply love it. Hope this helps and I if you need any extra info, I'll be more than happy to help. Good luck 👍
How do you feel about the image quality and the difference in resolution? Does the noise level and sharpness of the R6 compensate for the drop from 30 to 20 Mpx?
@@muresansergiubohdan - At the time I'm responding to this question, I no longer have the 5DMK4, I sold it as I completely transitioned to mirrorless. I continue to use the R6 and, in relation to your question, I don't miss/need the extra 10 Mpxs of the 5DMK4. I still regard that camera as a great one but the DSLR days are gone for me. The R6 has always met my expectations in sharpness, noise and low light conditions, pretty much in every field except in one: cropping from a far subject like birds. To compensate, I bought a canon 100-400 mm L lens with a 1.4x teleconverter and results have been fantastic. There was a time I felt tempted to get the R5 because of this reason, but as somebody wisely wrote somewhere in a video comment here..."you don't need to get another camera, you just need to get closer". That comment made me change my mind and saved me about $2000 dollars...I have not regretted doing so 😉
Excellent review, love the Canon 5D mark 4 ,after thousands of Wedding Day & Events, fashion and Portraits. The R5 and R6 are next level pro cameras. Not to mention the new Rf lenses.
@@kevinraposo Just remember that the amount of light doubles with every stop. Hence the ISO scale 100, 200, 400, 800 etc. If you took a very wide dynamic range scene and exposed for the shadows, the R6 would allow for around 70% extra light at the top end before the highlights clipped. A 15ev sensor would allow for 8 times the amount of light before clipping the highlights when compared with a 12ev sensor. Thanks for replying.
The sad part is that the R6 does not actually have the 14.3 as advertised. I tested the camera and it clearly falls below Sony's 15 stops. It's more like 13.5 stops. I did test the camera and i saw this for myself. Also confirmed by other reviews.
Thanks for the information, it was interesting hearing your take on this current photographic dilemma. I also spent a large part of my photographic life as a sports photographer. The difference is that when I started in photography there was not even autofocus never mind digital. The way of the future is without a doubt mirrorless, but DSLR's still have some life left. Probably because am really old, I still prefer the naked image in the DSLR viewfinder. There is one point you did fail to mention. The cost of new glass. Canon RF lenses have more than doubled in price over Canon EF lenses. Also the R3 will be out in a couple months. If the rumors are correct. The current pricing of the R5 is about a grand too high.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, sounds like you've had a lot of interesting experiences! You're correct, I failed to mention the increased cost of RF lenses mainly because the EF to RF adapter performance was pretty much flawless in my experience. Anybody looking to continue using cheaper EF mount lenses could do so without compromising quality.
Thank you! This is a great comparison. I've been looking far a camera for video and still photography, but it's hard to find one that excels at both. Good to know the 5d isn't what I'm looking for!
R6 4K 24 has never overheated for me in the real world, even rolling for hours (30 min then quick card swap) out in Joshua Tree. Wouldn't worry about it too much. YMMV
While Canon don't recommend 'dangling a camera by fingertips', they recognize this dangling as an important factor for comfort. So, Canon has been designing their cameras considering many situations which includes dangling the camera by only one middle finger. 'Canon Imaging Plaza' channel told this point in their video on March 1, 2021. I think R6 isn't a successor of 6Ds, but real sibling of R5.
What usually works is loosely wrapping the neck strap around your wrist, while 'dangling' the camera in your hand. I never had a situation where the camera actually dropped on the floor, but I did have a slip on a stair case covered in moss, where my immediate reaction was to hold camera close to my body, bruising my shoulder. So I guess it's part of the initiation process on walking around with a camera. I personally hate using neck straps, it's fatiguing after a day's walk.
Nice video. Very informative. I am a full-time pro and I use a 5D Mk IV and R6. I'd be interested to know how the R6 holds up, long term, to the type of weather Kevin has to subject it to when shooting sports. My Mk IV has been literally rained on before and kept performing.
I can tell you that I have shot with the R6 under light rain without issue, but I do not believe the weather-sealing is as robust as the 5D4. I probably wouldn't feel comfortable keeping it out in a torrential downpour
Really appreciate this. I've got/love my 5Div as my primary body with a 7Dii as the backup. I've found that I never pick up the 7Dii anymore - for me, the 5Div does a better job in all areas of my photography (birding, airshows, dog shows, watersports). Because of this, I thought it might be a good time to step into the mirrorless world IF the new body would be complementary to the 5Div or vice versa. From what I've read and what I saw in the vid - that isn't really the case with the R6. In many ways, they sound like they are very similar. With the exception of the autofocus, the pluses for the R6 aren't game changers for me, which makes me think that at the current price point, the R6 isn't a good investment for me.
Very informative comparison. I have a 5D Mark IV and a 70D that I stopped using several years ago. I've thought about getting another camera with a faster frame per second since most of the events I photograph include dancing and other fast movements. I also occasionally photograph my university's basketball games that could benefit from a camera with a faster fps.
Thank you for making this. I've been doing RE photo and video on the 6D for a few years and I wanted to switch to Sony (a7 III) but really didn't want to leave Canon. I wasn't sure if switching to the R6 would make sense since it is the same MP as the 6D. After looking at the high ISO performance and video quality you provided, it's sold me. I don't need R5 level stills for most of my work so this looks like a great fit. Also, with the advent of the drop-in filter EF lens adapter, I can finally use a polarizer or ND filter with all of my lenses and not have to carry a whole box around with me.
Just a question: where does the development of R6 leave R and RP? Before the recent models, these were the offerings from canon, RP being the entry level body like 6D, and R being the mid level body like 5D range...
OMG thank god I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL! Finally reviews that don't give me a migraine. I have been delaying buying camera gear because I am not the most tech-y person out there, and most reviews on cameras talk too much and might as well be speaking chinese with some of the vocabulary. This is perfect. To the point. Comprehensive and with actual visual examples. Thank you thank you thank you.
For me, it's not a close comparison at all. The thing is, with the R6 I get image stabilization with my old EF 50mm f1.4 and 100mm f2, makin them so much more useful for me. Also, the autofocus is just amazing compared to the 5D series. Both these big-aperture lenses were really hard to focus correctly, as the focus plane is extremely thin, and it is curved. Now with this excellent AF, I get perfect in-focus shots across the entire frame 99% of the time. The improvement here is simply massive. As a stills photographer, there is no question at all which one to get.
@@destiny3403 Sure, you can grab a cheap EF to RF converter from Canon, and every EF lens will work 100% perfectly. My old lenses are GREAT with the R6 stabilizer :)
I got the R6 because I was chasing low light performance. Exposure simulation in the EVF has made an enormous difference in the quality of my shots. My handle on the exposure triangle has gotten much, much better being able to adjust settings and see results real time. No blackouts when burst shooting animals? ✅ Advanced functionality with Q button in EVF instead of top lcd? ✅
One thing to keep in mind is while mirrorless cameras are great for simulating exposure before you take the shot you do need to be cognizant of the settings because in my experience when I'm under extreme fast moments, you can crank up your iso to increase exposure without realizing you turned it enormously because it's doesn't stimulate noise. Or if you turn down shutter speed too low and your subject is too blurry due to subject motion or camera shake since the simulation cannot approximate that
I have a R6 and an 5D Mark III. I love the 5D Mark III more, because of the build quality and it feels more like a camera not a computer. The AF is also fast enough for weddings, and the image quality is exact the same. I love top display and overall design. It is crazy because im a dslm user for years and first got the R6 (after some Sonys) and then the 5D III (my first Canon DSLR) on Ebay.
I switched from the 5D4 to the R6 and am mostly happy. The new focus systems are amazing for animals. Sports are still canceled where I am... The missing top LCD drives me nuts. My 1986 Minolta 7000i had one and every camera I've owned since. You can add a PC sync port via a $5 hot shoe mount to any camera as the hot shoe does the same thing.
@@Furudo If you are adapting any EF lenses, get the real Canon adapter. Third party ones are often problematic, where the canon ones work perfectly (in my experience) When you can, move to RF lenses. They are all just a little better/sharper/faster focusing. (again, this is my experience)
Hey Great Video Kevin Thanks for all your inputs, few of my inputs i would like to Share have owned 5dm4 since 2016 still use it as my main body, Used R6 recently on a Safari , accidently my 5Dm4 took a fall and guess wat not a scratch thats how 5d/7d/1d bodies are . R6 on the other hand is great with AF and EVF ,Lot of cool things you can do is touch and Drag AF points while ur looking into EVF. You can do this with 5dm4 too using AF point selection Button just a trick for some one who does not know. For me i dont see any significant reason to switch from 5d to R6 at the moment, But if some one is upgrading from APSC or 6d line up or 5dm3 then R6 is an awesome camera to upgrade to. Images from R6 are a bit Sharper compared to 5dm4 i guess there no AA filter. 5dm4 : Landscapes, Portrait ,Wildlife (in low ISO) R6 : Crazy crazy camera ,one wont regret buying one. Low light monster , Sharper phoots,High speed = Specifically for wildlife and sports /Action.
Really good review, nice to be able to watch one video and be in a position where you can make a choice between two cameras. The R6 looks good but the electronic viewfinder is not for me, optical for me. When i shoot in manual mode inside 1/200th 200ISO f5.6 with flash I can still see the room with an optical viewfinder.
I swapped from the 5d3 to the RP and I definitely miss the feel of the 5d3 even though the RP specs are far superior. I ordered the R6 a couple of days ago. Hopefully the R6 has the video shooting experience that became so big with the 5d lineup
does the 5D Mark 4 not have a medium or small RAW shooting mode that shoots at a lower megapixel count? Seems like the megapixels point category would be erroneous if that were the case.
Thank you for this short and very effective comparison. I've been a 5DMk4-shooter for almost five years and I just recently (two weeks ago) bought the R6. Don't miss the "missing" 10 MPs at all, love the increased lowlight quality - and the new autofocus just blows me away. From my point of view your result (12 by 10) looks too close because I give by far the most weight on the AF. So for me the R6 is the way better camera although I love my heavy duty 5D4 with more than 400.000 shots and no issue at all. Will never sell it and still use it for studio work or good daylight conditions. But the R6 will be my new workhorse - may it wind up as solid as the 5D4.
You sound like me, and how happy I felt after upgrading! I do agree the point system is flawed, but I figured it was the easiest way to quantify this comparison. Everyone should weight the categories depending on what matters the most to them
Do you find any differences in the raw files? The mark iv has dedicated picture profiles and the r6 does not. How much different do the skin tones look and which do you prefer,?
@@kingofpresets8437 Hi, thank you for the question. Unfortunately I can't answer it because I haven't tested the difference in skin tones yet. And I doubt that I will do this in the future because I don't feel the need for comparisons. Maybe because there is no big difference. And picture profiles? Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think those are important for capturing videos only. As I really never do this, it's not relevant for me and I can't answer this question either. Sorry for not being as helpful as you hoped, but over all I'm more interested in capturing moments than checking technical details. What I actually prefer in a camera is a certain ruggedness, good ergonomics, and a fast and accurate autofocus. That's what I got with the R6. Have a nice day :-)
5-axis image stabilization of R6 also works with EF-mount lenses, for EF-lenses without IS, pitch/yaw, X/Y and roll work only with the IBIS. For lenses with an optical IS pitch/yaw works with the lens IS and the other 3 axis with IBIS.
Thanks for the video, R6 just ordered, was about a time to move from the original 6D. I did not mind the picture quality at all, i did mind, however, the slow AF and a lot of action shots - kids running around, dog photos etc., were just problematic to capture many times. Looking forward to the new camera :)
@@sylvoniaa Hey Pixie, if the question was meant to be directed to me, then I do not think 5D4 is bad camera whatsoever, but the R6 has autofocus advantage, tilting screen - big advantage for video, but I found myself using it super often for stills too. Just the reality of not having to manually choose autofocus point no more is a huge plus for me. Honestly since upgrading from 6D it is like day and night shooting experience. The tilting display is perfect for low angle shots of smaller dog breeds like ours are, and eye-level photography of kids is great with it as well, I barely ever use viewfinder now. Overall, if the budget is not a limiting factor, I would go for R6 any day over DSLR. Good luck choosing the right machine.
As an enthusiast, the 5D4 is all I need. It has traveled with me from the far east to Europe, survived rough handling from Airport security who think that slamming a camera bag on the xray belt to get a better look again is alright etc. You are right its built like a tank!
very good comparison test that really touches the important points. I also like that you pointed out that performance is not everything and that the preference of the person behind the camera also counts.
If you're a hybrid shooter the R6 is a no brainer. But if you focus mostly on photos the 5D mkIV, to me, still has the edge. I own both and the R6 feels like a toy, I don't like the button displacement (and the size of rear dial), the lack of a top display and the cheap feel of the body. I also like more the optical viewfinder over the electronic one. Sure, AF is inferior in the 5D, but, to me it's not that much of a difference all in all, unless you use servo most of the times. It's also important to consider that if you use EF lenses they're gonna feel really unbalanced on the R6 because the adapter. Last but not least: if you use adobe softwares and you also like the look of canon camera colors or, like me, you start to process from one of the camera colors, you're gonna be disappointed because there's no support by today and it's likely there's never going to be any. You'll be forced to process R6 raw files starting from adobe proprietary color profiles, for some people it's not a problem but this is something worth to mention. By today the only R camera that has this feature on abode softwares is the R. So, well, I'm keeping both bodies but as my main camera I still use the 5D, but consider that I shoot mostly stills. The R6 is my backup body for perfect AF needs and excellent high iso performances
Try the 5D4 in live view and you will see that the focus is on par with R6. At least for stills. For videos it won't make much of a difference either. When using the optical viewfinder focus you are actually using a 20+ year old technology and cannot expect spectacular results.
I shoot mostly still, but they are stills of action. The 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic, and eye and body tracking put the R6 in a whole different league. A game changer.
@@kevinraposo I think you understand cameras and explain it better than anyone else I have seen. I would love to see the same video on as many lenses as possible. It would be nice if you could expand your site to teach photography. By that I mean, take a subject, lets say interior, portrait, animals, landscape, family etc and show what camera, lens and settings, lighting, poses, does and don'ts are ideal to achieve the best result. The have a website to comment on peoples photos and how they could have improved it, by letting people to post their photo and explain what settings they used. Both for video and photos. This way you will can go on forever and increase your rating.
For a 5-6 years old camera, the 5D4 holds pretty well over time. Yes, it's older and it's normal that new cameras get better and better. But the 5D4 is still a serious camera.
Absolutely agree
I've had my 5D Mk3 for years and it's an absolute work animal. I reckon, it'll stay in my camera bag for a long time, even after i switch to mirrorless.
I'm about to buy a used one tomorrow, first time getting a full-frame as well.
@@dewy3288 just make sure, that the shutter count isn't massive.
I would say an used 5D4 is the best deal today. Money vs performance is best. I would not worry about RF lenses. Even so, EF lenses should sell pretty cheap soon.
As a landscape photographer between the magnesium alloy body, weather sealing and bigger MP count. I’m gonna go with the 5D 4
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It's the magic of reading from a script on a teleprompter! Will continue to try and deliver the same type of stuff, thanks for subscribing.
wow that's the most thorough video I have seen so far on YT.. Great work..
My main camera is the Canon R5. Unfortunately I had to send it in for repairs due to a loose hot shoe.
My 2nd camera is a 5Dmk4, but I decided to buy an R6 because the mirrorless AF/live view is just great.
After shooting w/ the R6 for 2 weeks daily I am happy about everything except for the resolution. I think this camera is made for people who mainly shoot web-content. If my clients want to do print ads etc, I grab the 5d4 purely for the resolution.
The most thorough video I have seen so far on TH-cam.. Great work Kevin
This was absolutely great, just what I needed. Thank you for making this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Without even watching, the 5D4 video files are too big and the R6 overheats. Avoid both and waut for R62 or even RP2 (but with LPE6 battery, not the horendous LPE17)
Very detailed comparison! Nice job 👍🏾
That was hands down the best comparison video involving the R6. It also provided me with some valuable insights, cheers.
I appreciate it, and glad it was helpful! Thanks
A quality detailed review without unnecessary waffled! Subbed.
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Wow, such a great review. I love how you take into consideration that is YOUR perspective for YOUR taste & style of photography.
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Excellent review. I am in need of a camera upgrade and your point by point comparison is spot on. You broke down all of the issues I was concerned with and more. Thank you.
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Such a great comparison, watched the whole thing subscribed and was shocked, this man deserves more subscribers !
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Excellent and comprehensive video, with no flannel or fluff. Thkz.
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Hi Kevin. You're amazing and detailed analysis and views on both gears are astonishing. It's easy to understand. This channel is highly recommended, deserve a follow. Kudos.
when you said you like to give people heart attacks by dangling the camera by your fingertips LOL I FELT THAT 😂😂😂
Somehow, not a single camera drop while doing this for over ten years... but I'm sure that will eventually change lol.
this went seriously in-depth, nice job
Great review. Quick and to the point. Exactly what I was looking for. I have subscribed.
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Great comparison, thanks !
Just sold my 5D body. After getting the R6 I never reached for it. I didn’t feel like holding on to it was worth it so i out the money towards rf85 1.2. Literally a dream
How do you find the raw files of the r6? I’ve heard the raw colors strong out of the markiv are better especially beacuse of the canon profiles! Have you noticed ?
Hi
I like to shoot short movie so which one is good for professional
Just got thee 5dmIV and love it !!!!
Thank you for this fair and concise review... i learned a lot. Going with the R6!
Great video tutorial. I love the pace and how you don’t have a lot of “um s”. Great production values and tons of succinct information. Really glad to have run across you. Subscribed.
I appreciate it, glad it was helpful!
Very good work. This is a thorough comparison.
Thanks a lot!
Thank you Kevin, this is what a comparison test should always be. Said that, I never shoot videos; I like travel/landscape photography and indoor-tragic-light basket photography; in the second case I have to often shoot at 20/32.000 ISO, even with a 2.8 L lens. So I'm still a bit uncertain about the upgrade to the 6R, but I'll probably do it very soon. Thank you again Luigi
Glad it was helpful Luigi
Amazing comparion! Very well done and easy to follow.
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This is the first time I've come across your videos and i must say, I'm very impressed! Outstandingly professional video and great detail, subscription well earned!
Hey, I appreciate it! These take me forever to put together, but comments like these make it worth it
Thanks for that comparison.
Ultimately, your first question is if you need to make any changes. If you've mastered your 5D and you're getting the results you need, put the wallet back in your pocket.
If you're a pro and you do a lot of video, perhaps the 5D is now your back up camera. As a pro once told me: 'there's a lot of expensive equipment out there capturing mediocre images'.
Yes, it is refreshing to see Canon finally innovating again (thanks to Sony), and with competition intensifying, it means innovate or die. So, the R6 you have now will probably get to the '5D phase' a lot sooner than your 5D did. With Sony discounting their models on a regular basis, you can bet the R6 (and R5) will be declining in price too...and more than 300.00. So if you don't really need it right now...be patient. In the meantime, let's see what Canon does with the R3 !!
I'm not so sure about that price development. I own my 5D mark IV three years now, and the price difference between what I paid and the price now is € 200,- The R6 stayed on the same price level pretty much the whole first year.
I think Canon is counting on the loyalty of users just because they already own the glass. (Although with that in mind I feel they should have thrown in that EF-RF-adapter for free). I for one are still using my EF lenses and I don't plan on replacing them since I think they are absolutely wonderful and I still use the 5D IV alongside the R6...
I own both, and even though I love the great features of the R6 over the 5DMK4, I'm keeping both. The 5DMK4 is a war horse build to last and I'm used to its buttons, dials and wheels. It's been a great camera for 3 yrs for me.. But I also have to admit that the focusing system, the eye detection, the EVF, and the flip screen of the R6 are game changers for me.
Thanks for the good video 👍
Do you use your EF lenses on the R6? If so how's the focus on these? That's the one part I'm hesitant about !
@@seancoombes3446 - Hi Sean. All I have is EF "L" lenses and they all work flawlessly with the adapter. Focusing is fast and accurate, I would say this was the feature that appealed me the most when I rented the R6 before I bought it. I'd advice you to rent it first if your in doubt but I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I was debating between the R5 and the R6 just because of the sensor resolution as 20MP were not too appealing to me, but I have not had any issues with it and I have done some (moderate) cropping with my pictures with great results.
Well, I could go on but I think this answers you question, Sean.
The R6, in my opinion, is superior to the 5DMK4 I've been using for several years and I simply love it.
Hope this helps and I if you need any extra info, I'll be more than happy to help. Good luck 👍
Agreed completely.
How do you feel about the image quality and the difference in resolution? Does the noise level and sharpness of the R6 compensate for the drop from 30 to 20 Mpx?
@@muresansergiubohdan - At the time I'm responding to this question, I no longer have the 5DMK4, I sold it as I completely transitioned to mirrorless. I continue to use the R6 and, in relation to your question, I don't miss/need the extra 10 Mpxs of the 5DMK4. I still regard that camera as a great one but the DSLR days are gone for me. The R6 has always met my expectations in sharpness, noise and low light conditions, pretty much in every field except in one: cropping from a far subject like birds. To compensate, I bought a canon 100-400 mm L lens with a 1.4x teleconverter and results have been fantastic. There was a time I felt tempted to get the R5 because of this reason, but as somebody wisely wrote somewhere in a video comment here..."you don't need to get another camera, you just need to get closer". That comment made me change my mind and saved me about $2000 dollars...I have not regretted doing so 😉
Great review! Very helpful for someone weighing these two options. Thanks
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Great review man! Your a professional 👏
Great audio
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Excellent review, love the Canon 5D mark 4 ,after thousands of Wedding Day & Events, fashion and Portraits. The R5 and R6 are next level pro cameras. Not to mention the new Rf lenses.
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thanks for the comparison
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Thanks kevin, this really help me!
very good explanation ! thank you
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Great stuff. Lotta info no fluff. Subbed 👍🏻
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13.6 vs 14.3 is a huge difference. It's almost twice the dynamic range - well a 70% increase. It's a base 2 logarithmic scale, not a linear scale.
I just learned something new - thanks for sharing. I do stand by my experiences though - in practice, I haven't noticed a significant difference.
@@kevinraposo Just remember that the amount of light doubles with every stop. Hence the ISO scale 100, 200, 400, 800 etc. If you took a very wide dynamic range scene and exposed for the shadows, the R6 would allow for around 70% extra light at the top end before the highlights clipped. A 15ev sensor would allow for 8 times the amount of light before clipping the highlights when compared with a 12ev sensor. Thanks for replying.
The sad part is that the R6 does not actually have the 14.3 as advertised. I tested the camera and it clearly falls below Sony's 15 stops. It's more like 13.5 stops. I did test the camera and i saw this for myself. Also confirmed by other reviews.
@@cristiantoma1500 which Sony camera did u test?
@@Fikri.rosli1203 Both A7iii and A7IV have very similar dynamic range. I do have a 5D4 and A7IV.
Your video, research, analysis is top notch. You deserve a lot more subscribers. Keep it up!
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Great content and thorough comparison! Thank you! Best video i found in TH-cam.
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+ 1 suscriber ! i was actually looking for buying the R6 and your comparison is awesome ! i'll go for the R6 for the focus 😊. cheers from France
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Very precise and appropriate comparison. After watching this video I have made up my mind to go for R6. Hey Kevin, you have earned a subscriber.
Thank you very much. Glad this helped you to make a decision!
Excellent straight forward and essential testing. Thank you Kevin.
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Thanks for your review! I appreciated your technical breakdowns.
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Thanks for the information, it was interesting hearing your take on this current photographic dilemma. I also spent a large part of my photographic life as a sports photographer. The difference is that when I started in photography there was not even autofocus never mind digital. The way of the future is without a doubt mirrorless, but DSLR's still have some life left. Probably because am really old, I still prefer the naked image in the DSLR viewfinder. There is one point you did fail to mention. The cost of new glass. Canon RF lenses have more than doubled in price over Canon EF lenses. Also the R3 will be out in a couple months. If the rumors are correct. The current pricing of the R5 is about a grand too high.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, sounds like you've had a lot of interesting experiences! You're correct, I failed to mention the increased cost of RF lenses mainly because the EF to RF adapter performance was pretty much flawless in my experience. Anybody looking to continue using cheaper EF mount lenses could do so without compromising quality.
Thank you! This is a great comparison. I've been looking far a camera for video and still photography, but it's hard to find one that excels at both. Good to know the 5d isn't what I'm looking for!
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the 5D MK4 kills at both
Really good review. Thank you.
A comparison video couldn't get any better than this! Straigt to the point and concise!
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R6 4K 24 has never overheated for me in the real world, even rolling for hours (30 min then quick card swap) out in Joshua Tree. Wouldn't worry about it too much. YMMV
100% agree, very similar real-world experience
The button placement on the 5D mk4 is clearly supperior
Exactly what i was looking for ! Thanks a lot for this feedback ! R6 here i come !
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nice detailed comparison! keep it up!
The less megapixels is better for low light video so that’s why the R6 is only 20. That’s a point for R6 for sure for me.
While Canon don't recommend 'dangling a camera by fingertips', they recognize this dangling as an important factor for comfort. So, Canon has been designing their cameras considering many situations which includes dangling the camera by only one middle finger. 'Canon Imaging Plaza' channel told this point in their video on March 1, 2021.
I think R6 isn't a successor of 6Ds, but real sibling of R5.
What usually works is loosely wrapping the neck strap around your wrist, while 'dangling' the camera in your hand. I never had a situation where the camera actually dropped on the floor, but I did have a slip on a stair case covered in moss, where my immediate reaction was to hold camera close to my body, bruising my shoulder. So I guess it's part of the initiation process on walking around with a camera. I personally hate using neck straps, it's fatiguing after a day's walk.
I dangle, too. But with a write strap. I refuse to use anything around my neck or over my shoulder.
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Thank you for making this brilliant video, Kevin! Very helpful!
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Nice video. Very informative. I am a full-time pro and I use a 5D Mk IV and R6. I'd be interested to know how the R6 holds up, long term, to the type of weather Kevin has to subject it to when shooting sports. My Mk IV has been literally rained on before and kept performing.
I can tell you that I have shot with the R6 under light rain without issue, but I do not believe the weather-sealing is as robust as the 5D4. I probably wouldn't feel comfortable keeping it out in a torrential downpour
Really appreciate this. I've got/love my 5Div as my primary body with a 7Dii as the backup. I've found that I never pick up the 7Dii anymore - for me, the 5Div does a better job in all areas of my photography (birding, airshows, dog shows, watersports). Because of this, I thought it might be a good time to step into the mirrorless world IF the new body would be complementary to the 5Div or vice versa. From what I've read and what I saw in the vid - that isn't really the case with the R6. In many ways, they sound like they are very similar. With the exception of the autofocus, the pluses for the R6 aren't game changers for me, which makes me think that at the current price point, the R6 isn't a good investment for me.
Same here :) I shoot motorsports and after I got a 5Div I rarely use the 7Dii - there's just no comparison.
@@kadinaator I got to that point with 7d1 and 6d a long time ago.
Stick to your 5D MKIV, it's so much better than the R6, especially regarding the 30MP resolution over the paltry 20MP of the amateur R6.
Lovely video.. to the point and very practical. Thanks for sharing.
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Excellent presentation, i love your style and the depth of your analysis.
Thank you!
Very informative comparison. I have a 5D Mark IV and a 70D that I stopped using several years ago. I've thought about getting another camera with a faster frame per second since most of the events I photograph include dancing and other fast movements. I also occasionally photograph my university's basketball games that could benefit from a camera with a faster fps.
Been sold my 5DM4 and 70D and several L lenses. Leica SL2 I now have, has been eye opening in performance for my work.
7D mark II
Thank you for making this.
I've been doing RE photo and video on the 6D for a few years and I wanted to switch to Sony (a7 III) but really didn't want to leave Canon. I wasn't sure if switching to the R6 would make sense since it is the same MP as the 6D. After looking at the high ISO performance and video quality you provided, it's sold me. I don't need R5 level stills for most of my work so this looks like a great fit. Also, with the advent of the drop-in filter EF lens adapter, I can finally use a polarizer or ND filter with all of my lenses and not have to carry a whole box around with me.
Glad I could help someone with similar circumstances!
Just a question: where does the development of R6 leave R and RP? Before the recent models, these were the offerings from canon, RP being the entry level body like 6D, and R being the mid level body like 5D range...
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this is an incredible comparison review. subbed
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OMG thank god I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL!
Finally reviews that don't give me a migraine.
I have been delaying buying camera gear because I am not the most tech-y person out there, and most reviews on cameras talk too much and might as well be speaking chinese with some of the vocabulary.
This is perfect. To the point. Comprehensive and with actual visual examples.
Thank you thank you thank you.
And here I was, thinking some parts of this comparison were just a technical jargon mouthful (like the video section) lol. Glad it was helpful!
For me, it's not a close comparison at all. The thing is, with the R6 I get image stabilization with my old EF 50mm f1.4 and 100mm f2, makin them so much more useful for me. Also, the autofocus is just amazing compared to the 5D series. Both these big-aperture lenses were really hard to focus correctly, as the focus plane is extremely thin, and it is curved. Now with this excellent AF, I get perfect in-focus shots across the entire frame 99% of the time. The improvement here is simply massive. As a stills photographer, there is no question at all which one to get.
You can use EF lenses with the R6? I thought you could only use RF lenses
@@destiny3403 Sure, you can grab a cheap EF to RF converter from Canon, and every EF lens will work 100% perfectly. My old lenses are GREAT with the R6 stabilizer :)
very nice and straight forward review, welldone
Great review the best I have seen so far.
Thank you
Thanks!
I got the R6 because I was chasing low light performance. Exposure simulation in the EVF has made an enormous difference in the quality of my shots. My handle on the exposure triangle has gotten much, much better being able to adjust settings and see results real time.
No blackouts when burst shooting animals? ✅
Advanced functionality with Q button in EVF instead of top lcd? ✅
One thing to keep in mind is while mirrorless cameras are great for simulating exposure before you take the shot you do need to be cognizant of the settings because in my experience when I'm under extreme fast moments, you can crank up your iso to increase exposure without realizing you turned it enormously because it's doesn't stimulate noise. Or if you turn down shutter speed too low and your subject is too blurry due to subject motion or camera shake since the simulation cannot approximate that
This is a great review. You deserve a lot more subscribers.
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Great! No wasted time. Direct to the point
Thanks for that video. It helped me a lot in that hard choice !! Left my 5D4 for that new...thing ;)
I have a R6 and an 5D Mark III.
I love the 5D Mark III more, because of the build quality and it feels more like a camera not a computer. The AF is also fast enough for weddings, and the image quality is exact the same. I love top display and overall design.
It is crazy because im a dslm user for years and first got the R6 (after some Sonys) and then the 5D III (my first Canon DSLR) on Ebay.
Your right
I switched from the 5D4 to the R6 and am mostly happy. The new focus systems are amazing for animals. Sports are still canceled where I am... The missing top LCD drives me nuts. My 1986 Minolta 7000i had one and every camera I've owned since.
You can add a PC sync port via a $5 hot shoe mount to any camera as the hot shoe does the same thing.
Did you ever get over the lack of the top LCD? I feel like I'm going to miss it a lot but really can't justify an extra $1k+ for the R5.
@@Furudo Yea. There is a lot to get used to. It's more computer than manual camera. But the photos are fantastic.
@@TexMex421 Thanks, that's good to know. Very excited to try it out. I'm upgrading from a 60D so it's going to be huge.
@@Furudo If you are adapting any EF lenses, get the real Canon adapter. Third party ones are often problematic, where the canon ones work perfectly (in my experience)
When you can, move to RF lenses. They are all just a little better/sharper/faster focusing. (again, this is my experience)
Thanks for this info
Great video love how you got straight to the point.
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Hey Great Video Kevin Thanks for all your inputs,
few of my inputs i would like to Share have owned 5dm4 since 2016 still use it as my main body, Used R6 recently on a Safari , accidently my 5Dm4 took a fall and guess wat not a scratch thats how 5d/7d/1d bodies are . R6 on the other hand is great with AF and EVF ,Lot of cool things you can do is touch and Drag AF points while ur looking into EVF. You can do this with 5dm4 too using AF point selection Button just a trick for some one who does not know.
For me i dont see any significant reason to switch from 5d to R6 at the moment, But if some one is upgrading from APSC or 6d line up or 5dm3 then R6 is an awesome camera to upgrade to.
Images from R6 are a bit Sharper compared to 5dm4 i guess there no AA filter.
5dm4 :
Landscapes, Portrait ,Wildlife (in low ISO)
R6 : Crazy crazy camera ,one wont regret buying one.
Low light monster , Sharper phoots,High speed = Specifically for wildlife and sports /Action.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing! Forgot about the AA filter, very good point.
Really good review, nice to be able to watch one video and be in a position where you can make a choice between two cameras. The R6 looks good but the electronic viewfinder is not for me, optical for me. When i shoot in manual mode inside 1/200th 200ISO f5.6 with flash I can still see the room with an optical viewfinder.
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You can see it better with the R6 EVF because it automatically brightens the image
This was wholesome thank you
Thank you! Great detail 😊
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I swapped from the 5d3 to the RP and I definitely miss the feel of the 5d3 even though the RP specs are far superior. I ordered the R6 a couple of days ago. Hopefully the R6 has the video shooting experience that became so big with the 5d lineup
You will find the video production experience with the R6 is outstanding, at least in my opinion
@@kevinraposo thanks, I hope so
does the 5D Mark 4 not have a medium or small RAW shooting mode that shoots at a lower megapixel count? Seems like the megapixels point category would be erroneous if that were the case.
Great point - but for the sake of this video, thought it would be more helpful to compare each camera using their maximum capabilities
Amazing work, subscribed.
Thanks and welcome
Great comparison video thanks!
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Thank you for this short and very effective comparison. I've been a 5DMk4-shooter for almost five years and I just recently (two weeks ago) bought the R6. Don't miss the "missing" 10 MPs at all, love the increased lowlight quality - and the new autofocus just blows me away. From my point of view your result (12 by 10) looks too close because I give by far the most weight on the AF. So for me the R6 is the way better camera although I love my heavy duty 5D4 with more than 400.000 shots and no issue at all. Will never sell it and still use it for studio work or good daylight conditions. But the R6 will be my new workhorse - may it wind up as solid as the 5D4.
You sound like me, and how happy I felt after upgrading! I do agree the point system is flawed, but I figured it was the easiest way to quantify this comparison. Everyone should weight the categories depending on what matters the most to them
Do you find any differences in the raw files? The mark iv has dedicated picture profiles and the r6 does not. How much different do the skin tones look and which do you prefer,?
@@kingofpresets8437 Hi, thank you for the question. Unfortunately I can't answer it because I haven't tested the difference in skin tones yet. And I doubt that I will do this in the future because I don't feel the need for comparisons. Maybe because there is no big difference. And picture profiles? Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think those are important for capturing videos only. As I really never do this, it's not relevant for me and I can't answer this question either. Sorry for not being as helpful as you hoped, but over all I'm more interested in capturing moments than checking technical details. What I actually prefer in a camera is a certain ruggedness, good ergonomics, and a fast and accurate autofocus. That's what I got with the R6. Have a nice day :-)
Neither is better, it just depends on what you want to use it for.
Action shots and after 6pm party’s, which one do you recommend?
5-axis image stabilization of R6 also works with EF-mount lenses, for EF-lenses without IS, pitch/yaw, X/Y and roll work only with the IBIS. For lenses with an optical IS pitch/yaw works with the lens IS and the other 3 axis with IBIS.
interesting video and comparison, Kevin. Thank you for sharing!
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Great video man! We love our R6!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! So am I - having a lot of fun with it
Thanks for the video, R6 just ordered, was about a time to move from the original 6D. I did not mind the picture quality at all, i did mind, however, the slow AF and a lot of action shots - kids running around, dog photos etc., were just problematic to capture many times. Looking forward to the new camera :)
The 6D was my first full-frame camera, one of my favourite that I've ever owned! But you'll love the R6, enormous upgrade.
Hi, I’m also hoping to take a lot of action shots - kids & dogs. So do you mean that 5Dm4 is too slow from your experience? Thanks! :)
@@sylvoniaa Hey Pixie, if the question was meant to be directed to me, then I do not think 5D4 is bad camera whatsoever, but the R6 has autofocus advantage, tilting screen - big advantage for video, but I found myself using it super often for stills too. Just the reality of not having to manually choose autofocus point no more is a huge plus for me. Honestly since upgrading from 6D it is like day and night shooting experience. The tilting display is perfect for low angle shots of smaller dog breeds like ours are, and eye-level photography of kids is great with it as well, I barely ever use viewfinder now.
Overall, if the budget is not a limiting factor, I would go for R6 any day over DSLR.
Good luck choosing the right machine.
@@BrekoTa thank you so much for your reply 😊 I’ll go for the R6!
@@sylvoniaa My pleasure. You will be very happy with your new camera. Have a nice day.
Great review. Thanks.
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Great video. Clean and informative.
As an enthusiast, the 5D4 is all I need. It has traveled with me from the far east to Europe, survived rough handling from Airport security who think that
slamming a camera bag on the xray belt to get a better look again is alright etc. You are right its built like a tank!
Absolutely, I sold it after making this video but I do miss how well-constructed it was
this video is great - I just got the 5d mk 4 - I still prefer it
I sold my 5dmk4 and switched to olyjip m1 mark ii 😊 never looked back
@@bamsemh1 same here. Sold it and switched to Leica SL2. End game for me. At least for next 10 years.
very good comparison test that really touches the important points. I also like that you pointed out that performance is not everything and that the preference of the person behind the camera also counts.
I appreciate it, and glad the comparison was helpful!
Thanx Kevin. Very informative and helpful for my next upgrade. 👌
No problem 👍 Glad it was helpful!
If you're a hybrid shooter the R6 is a no brainer. But if you focus mostly on photos the 5D mkIV, to me, still has the edge. I own both and the R6 feels like a toy, I don't like the button displacement (and the size of rear dial), the lack of a top display and the cheap feel of the body. I also like more the optical viewfinder over the electronic one. Sure, AF is inferior in the 5D, but, to me it's not that much of a difference all in all, unless you use servo most of the times. It's also important to consider that if you use EF lenses they're gonna feel really unbalanced on the R6 because the adapter. Last but not least: if you use adobe softwares and you also like the look of canon camera colors or, like me, you start to process from one of the camera colors, you're gonna be disappointed because there's no support by today and it's likely there's never going to be any. You'll be forced to process R6 raw files starting from adobe proprietary color profiles, for some people it's not a problem but this is something worth to mention. By today the only R camera that has this feature on abode softwares is the R. So, well, I'm keeping both bodies but as my main camera I still use the 5D, but consider that I shoot mostly stills. The R6 is my backup body for perfect AF needs and excellent high iso performances
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Try the 5D4 in live view and you will see that the focus is on par with R6. At least for stills. For videos it won't make much of a difference either. When using the optical viewfinder focus you are actually using a 20+ year old technology and cannot expect spectacular results.
@Steve Hadfield which ones the banana 🍌 n which ones the cucumber 🥒?
I shoot mostly still, but they are stills of action. The 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic, and eye and body tracking put the R6 in a whole different league. A game changer.
Thank you, just thinking to update my camera from 5D2, now I will check out R6
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Thank you for doing this video. It was exactly what I was looking for.
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@@kevinraposo I think you understand cameras and explain it better than anyone else I have seen. I would love to see the same video on as many lenses as possible.
It would be nice if you could expand your site to teach photography. By that I mean, take a subject, lets say interior, portrait, animals, landscape, family etc and show what camera, lens and settings, lighting, poses, does and don'ts are ideal to achieve the best result. The have a website to comment on peoples photos and how they could have improved it, by letting people to post their photo and explain what settings they used. Both for video and photos. This way you will can go on forever and increase your rating.
Awesome video. Very clear and to the point.
I appreciate it!