Star Citizen - HOTAS or Dual Stick - Which is Better?
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In fact future space superiority fighters would have dual flightsticks due to ability to maneuver in more than just yaw, pitch, roll with directional thrusters. The pedals will be used for throttle up (right), down (left) and brake (middle). You made the right choice by looking far into space flight sims. I'll get the dual flightsticks to save space. However, games like DCS would need HOTAS as we can't see the thrust level on the HUD nor any indicator in percentage apart from panning full left on the screen. What's your advice for me?
When you play the game, the screen shows that most ships have two sticks. So you need two sicks if you want to match what the game is showing you on the screen.
For slightly more immersiveness they should allow dual sticks to be an optional customization for all ship interiors.
They're not "stupid mistakes" if you learn from them :)
+CRAMDIME true
Maybe not stupid but kind of costly :)
there is a SC pilot in germany using dual joysticks like the ones in this video, the throttle, a stickypad, that razer minikeyboard thing. total over the top. but this ist SC. where people spend 300 euros for a nice looking .jpg ;)
+emergcon lol
But if you can you should learn from others mistake
I switched from a Hotus setup to twin sticks - and I love it now. The problem with a Hotus is that I flew my space ships like an airplane, always forward. Using twin sticks I now take full advantage of being in a space craft.
Makes sense. There's reason most construction equipment has adopted the two stick control method. Those guys dont mess around d when it comes to efficiency!
The only reason is that you can't provide enough axis on one stick for really operating an excavator. But you still got pedals on every excavator for the drive system. You also got pedals for auxiliary hydraulics on smaller machines, which are replaced in bigger machines by buttons on top of the sticks for operation with your thumb or other fingers.
@@bl4cky89 I still don't know how people grade with foot pedals. Wizards i tell you.
@@mr_rivv practice lots of practice
Thanks for the video. Your time and money were not wasted, you did some great research.
Thanks, I hope you find your perfect controller setup easy.
i probably will get two t16000M sticks as well.. thanks dude !
with a dual joystick setup, what is controlling what?
AND! The important part, shared it. So that we all might benefit too. For that we must thank him.
Thank you for the thorough and simple video, this helps a lot. I like that you clearly showed us the mapping for your main controls and actually showed them in use so we could see how it looks real-time, in-game. Much appreciated.
I use dual T16000M, and I absolutely LOVE them. Trip Rodriguez has a 4 part video series that teaches you how to configure them from start to finish. The thing really made it all click perfectly for me was the curve adjustments. The deadzones REALLY help to. Without those adjustments I had trouble sticking to targets, aim wise, but still had knifelike precision control with strafing on a 2nd joystick.
People don't want to hear it, but dual stick is superior to all other setups. The CIG HOTAS should have been a CIG dual stick.
I've been a HOTAS pilot for several years now so when I tired dual sticks it just didn't work for me, I'm just too used to my HOTAS and pedals. That said I can see how you'd really like this setup as it gives very nice fine control without having to do a twist axis which never felt right to me.
maybe take the spring out of your throttle stick so i doesn't return to the middle. Then it will feel more like a normal throttle.
why use the twist axis if you have pedals?
that is a sick setup dude
Pedals really made the difference for me. I use them like a heli. Can swivel and use them for up and down.
I'd probably use two sticks and pedals. Use everything if you can.
Did same with T16000 and Logitec 3d pro. cause I'm left handed. works great, have loved it for almost a year now.
You still playing with that setup?
I just got into SC about a month ago and have been debating this setup. You convinced me!
Great video, man. I'm looking into a SC setup, and this perspective was really helpful.
I am seriously considering buying a hotas, but the duel joystick setup looks very effective !
I have a HOTAS setup (Saitek X52 Pro) and its great. It has Pitch, Yaw and Roll all on the one stick. And I use the 8 way hat on the throttle for strafing. I have not however, tried a duel stick setup. Did you end up buying one?
Read my comment up above. I posted your same question on the internet about 9 months ago. I own both and if I was more of a PVPer Id go HOSAS but have recently moved to HOTAS (all VIrpil) with a Panel 1. I am proud and in awe of my setup and often hear them calling me when I walk by.... "play with me, PLAY WITH ME"!
OMG A standing desk sounds AWFUL!
I stand and walk ALL DAY at my job and the last thing i want to do when i get home is STAND ON MY SORE ASS FEET!
Just the thought of gaming at a stand up desk makes me think about how I used to play the game kiosks at Walmart when I was a kid... And how after 5 mins of playing I was DYING to enjoy the game in a SEATED POSITION!
Next thing you know they are paging my damn Mother on the PA system because I was sitting on a charcoal grill I found on the next aisle over!
Wide eyed and terrified I sat soaking up as much Goldeneye 007 as I could before she arrived. Only glancing away from the screen long enough to ensure the manager wasn't going for the lock on the plastic door that held the console ...
...Man... I had a great childhood... I'm really glad I typed this comment.
gotta get a sit to stand desk. best of both worlds. i have a motorized one from ikea that can adjust to any height on the fly
I love it
if you sit at work all day you want to rather stand at home because your back will kill you for sitting all day :D
@@driveandkill depending on your posture and the shape of the chairs, it also puts either a lot of weight across your legs and buttock, or all of that pressure on your buttocks. So if all you do is sit all day, it can also feel tiring and slowly cause internal problems. We gamers tend not to look after ourselves in that respect. It's important we do, and not just so we dot get more bad media about how were addicted or that gaming destroys lives or some other over the top crap...
Yeah and if you SIT all day for work, then stand desk is fucking sweet.
so insightful thanks. Now I wanna make my own! but with an aluminum frame like a cockpit
I am starting to research to build my own set up for Rogue System and this was so
helpful ! Subbed !
That setup looks super interesting and if I had the money to both play SC and have twin joysticks then it would be well worth the effort, time and whatever else possible from the experiences.
I do indeed like your no bullshit approach. You and Subliminal are my favorites. (he has light bull shit, but also does in depth content I like.)
about to start my SC life, and needed this bro, ty
Dude thanks so much. Your vid was exactly what I needed to see.
I highly, *highly* recommend mounting your sticks in a way so that you can rest your elbows somehow. You are going to lose a ton of precision trying to move the flight controls with your entire arms.
+Legacy Instructional Series My arm rests on the table.
+TheNOOBIFIER1337 Hmm, hard to tell without a better angle, apologies is that's what you are already doing. Doesn't look like it, though: i.imgur.com/Pqwgqeb.png i.imgur.com/9XlcP9D.png
+TheNOOBIFIER1337 I like this video because, in my opinion, the big lesson here is that ultimately you have to do what you enjoy and what works for you, then make adjustments to it to become competitive if that's your goal.
That said, I do have some critiques, not on your control scheme, because you seem to have tried a lot of things and, like I said above, have determined what works best for you. But.
We really need to be careful about calling bindings "thruster up/down", "thrust fwd/back", etc. These are not accurate descriptions of these bindings, even in decoupled mode. I know it sounds pedantic, but propagating these things are reasons why people still think the throttle directly controls the main engine, and the distinction between that and reality makes a difference with how people fly and fight.
Strafe up/down, fwd/back, etc. You do not directly control any thrusters at any time in any mode. You are telling your ship which way you want to go and it decides which thrusters to use. Sometimes this could be a completely different set of thrusters than the direction you are indicating. It's complicated why, but that's the truth. We have an IFCS video coming soon that will help explain it.
Again, great video and thanks for sharing. . . I never thought of going Yaw/long strafe on the left hand but looking at it while you fly, it actually doesn't look too shabby.
Not based on your video. Both of your arms are clearly off of your table.. Are you doing that specifically for our viewing pleasure?
Great dual stick or even hotas chair mounts
monstertechusa.com/product/joystick-hotas-chair-mount/
3:32 Wait! Did you just switch up left and right? I'm confused
Great video, I'm still figuring out what I want and this was exactly what I was looking for as a reference point. Keep up the awesome work man, it's really helpful.
+booms thanks I hope it becomes easy to navigate all this stuff
Thanks for the video. I've been looking into dual sticks so this is great to see in action
Who is this exquisite creature that enters the scene at 0:07?
Also, nice video! Using a G13 + T16000 myself, its pretty nice. But I feel like I might need to try dual-sticks, just to see if it suits me.
+Celanis Hugsalot That dude is Montie.. as in the "Full Montie" scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/10604009_10154558504535061_5844007202042704326_o.jpg
hmmmm I have long wanted for a HOTAS but dont have the dollars yet...
I wonder if I should try dual stick in stead :S
Dual stick!
Gt Omega sim chair, Oculus Rift, X55/Fanatec Wheel. Absolutely mind blowing.
@@thechurchofsupersampling whats mind blowing ? the wheel or the price-tag ?
thanks man! gonna go watch your new vid in the dual warthog setup
Awesome advice. Very much appreciated!
"HOSAS is the ultimate system" until you play any non-space simulator
"It was stupid expensive"... 3+ years later - making video's about VIrpil products....
Literally lol
Hes lucky though now he doesn't even pay for them, Virpil and VKB send them free of charge. It's a marketing thing.
It WAS stupid and expensive to buy the Warthog. It's all cool until the gimbal breaks and refuses to center.
They (TM) also don’t do much to honour the warranty, so it’s expensive to service.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 from a companies point of perspective they did everything right.
Love you no BS approach to Star Citizen game play. You have saved us numerous hours and a lot of money trying out different configurations. I will adapt to the dual joysticks approach because I hate the keyboard/mouse game. I am a Subscriber because of your no BS way of explaining things.
Thank you for all the setup types that you have displayed. It has made my set up of dual sticks much more easy. Still having trouble but the dual setup has been an improvement in my game play in Star Ctizen
+Vamp68BSB1975 practice and time. There is no replacing them both.
Welcome to the club brother! If you figure out how to get a lefty Warthog, let me know!
+BuzZzKiller I will keep you in the loop. Right now its a couiple of people who want including Sgt_Gamble and Brickyard
+TheNOOBIFIER1337 You should check out the x-56 rhino thats releasing 30th of may. Its made for space sims (Basically just an updated x-55) I am thinking of getting it for star citizen and other flight sims.
Is it ambidextrous?
+TheNOOBIFIER1337 Im affraid not, but it has analogue sticks on your thumbs. Both the stick and throttle, so you wouldnt need a 2 stick setup with it.
Man, I'd kill for a lefty warthog too. I'm rolling dual T16000 at the moment, upgrade would be sweet.
2 sticks all the way, like you said it just feels natural
Cause you have one stick already xD
I watched this video a couple of years ago and new eventually this is the route I wanted to go. Well it happened and it was easier than expected as the T.16000 now has a Single stick, HOTAS, or dual stick option. I got the dual sticks for around $120 US on amazon, (Free with amazon points!), and wow what a difference from my old saitek keyboard setup. I believe I heard somewhere that many of the internals are the same as some of the higher end Thrustmaster setups but everything else is plastic to knock that cost down. For anyone looking to get into a serious setup for flying I would suggest these sticks if on a budget or not sure if this is the way to go but for 50 dollars a stick they are better than anything I have had before. Thank you again for this video as its a great look into why.
another great video! awesome setup.
awww what's the kitty's name? :)
The axis on the left stick don't really make sense no matter how you set them up imo, forward/backward and left/right makes sense as those axis, but twist doesn't really logically bind to any axis imo, some people use it for strafe up/down but that doesn't match well for me, Also it's going to get tiresome at some point to hold your left joystick forwards to keep going forwards, will probably need a button to override the throttle to 100% for crusing, or disable the centering spring. Kinda weird mixing translation and rotation on the 2 hands imo, I prefer to keep all rotation on the right stick and all translation on the left stick/throttle, but I guess without twist you can't do the same.
Frankly I've yet to find a setup out there that matches what I want, so I'm making my own, I'm making basically a HOTAS setup but the throttle looks like a joystick and moves forwards/backwards on a linear rail with a bump in the middle for neutral, and has an analog thumb stick at my thumb's resting location for strafing, I've ordered all the parts I need and I'll 3d print the rest, going to make some additional control panels with buttons as well.
+Christian Gerefalk For me, it felt weird at first but I got used to it in a day or so. I have it bound so that twist counterclockwise is strafe up and vice versa. I sort of visualize it like I'm turning a big screw, because righty tighty lefty loosy is already in muscle memory.
Holding the strafe stick forward to go forward is definitely my biggest problem with dual joysticks, but if I want to go forward for a long time I can just use one of the sliders to set my throttle. I only really rely on strafe forward when in a dogfight, because with your throttle set to 0 you can stop and start strafing backwards without taking your hands off the joystick, which is really handy sometimes.
+kiwishizzle I do the same, for long distance flying I have the throttle on the left stick shift.
For combat I'm staffing forward / backwards with the stick. I find it very easy to constantly change velocity to help stay behind someone or increase turn speed.
I also get to side strafe at the same time to dodge. I find it all much easier and more intuitive than a throttle plus thumb stick for the same functionality.
+Christian Gerefalk There are a few solutions to the throttle issues.
1. Bind Throttle to a slider axis and use that as cruise control for long flights.
2. Use the keyboard for throttle.
3. While flying at your desired speed quickly tap decouple and let go. When you recouple the throttle is set to your current velocity. You'll just have to tap the throttle to stop.
+Christian Gerefalk
I know what you mean about holding the stick forwards for flight. I have found a pretty good solution in my set up. If you have the T16000M, you can set the stick for forward/back/left/right strafe. And you can set the throttle to the slider. If you ever need to cruise anywhere, just flick the slider to 100. Heading into combat? Then slide it to zero and use the stick to strafe forward.
i wouldn't mind seeing your creation when you are done ;). i see you have uploaded a video nvm
This is fantastic! THANK YOU!
Excellent advice....I've been on the fence for some time over whether I should invest in some flight hardware.
I have a reasonably priced option thanks to your vid. Only thing left is the stick time.
nice cat.
That thing is ugly AF
I don't see the point of getting a TM Warthog unless you're a hardcore combat flight simmer. That stick is specifically designed for sims like DCS, BMS, or Flamming Cliffs. If you're not playing those it seems like a waste of money.
yes and no, it still is multi-function and people buy is because it is high quality and high fidelity... and they have the cash
the thrustmaster t16000 has the same accuracy as the warthog but lighter and cheaper which is why it could be a better option though more lacking in buttons and has a different feel
more durability on the warthog, that's why.
The warthog is all plastic inside and not really durable at all actually.
I got mine since 4 years now and played with it at least 4000 hours so far and it still feels and looks like it did on the first day. There's no better joystick around for this price. If I'm wrong, give me a link, please.
3m sticky tack on the bottom of the thrust master will keep it in place until you get chair mounts.
Same thing for me, went from HOSAK to HOSAS and it just clicked.
Learning to tweak the curves and deadlines are the biggest hurdle as it's all custom preferences but worth it
The dual space sim kit from thrust master is a super cheap.
Great video!
super helpful video - I ended up trashing my Hotas years back and giving up because my ship kept blitzing forward in hangars and exploding or reversing full thrust in space.
Im going with duel stick for my return to star citizen again. I finished the vid then realized its 7 years old!!!! How wild is that! haha - Ive stop playing off and on a few times since the kick starter. Lets hope were finally going to see some major updates in the next year.
Thanx for your great vidz!
Just want to share something. I fly dual since 4 months and it's perfect, your video is totally right. I have discovered a really intuitive way of using the pedales ( since I bought the same as you in my previous attempt to find a set up): for straffing up ( right) ans down ( left). Mostly use for landing etc, but since it s perfectely intuitive ( it doesn t messed up with your brain like for roll or yaw) you can ad it sometimes in dogfight. I know it seems odd but give it a try it 's very natural and .. immersive..
thanx for your great work!
+PAINTINGISDHEAD People who sit down should totally get a set of pedals if they can. The more control the better.
wow, that was very informative and saved me a lot of trouble. thanks!
Nice thanks for showing the setup ^_^
Great video as ever ! I started exactly like you and I currently own a warthog and a T16000. Dual stick is the best experience for SC in my sense, at least if you make a bit of dogfight ! HOTAS suits best cargo run, maybe, but why should I limit to this gameplay.
Currently, I'm looking forward to receive dual constellation alpha from virpil. I'll see if I keep the throttle or not ;)
Thanks again :)
Very helpful info brother thanks
Dude. I love your methodical approach! Thanks for the video. This helps me a lot!!
Jono Du Preez thanks for the support. I appreciate it.
Great advice thank you
Thank you, i was looking for a good setup, and i think i will try the dual sticks like you have.
+nelttab1 dual stick for me is really solid
thanks i was torn between wich to buy before this vid cheers bro
I've become a much better pilot, too, since I switched from my X-55 HOTAS setup to dual sticks. (I still use my throttle as third unit because I don't have pedals yet and because I like the switches for the non-combat stuff.) Flying feels much more natural now. It's difficult to describe how big the difference really is. Great video once again by the way!
very handy video. Thanks
thank you so much, sir. help me a lot!
I know it's been ten months, but I found this video very helpful. I did not come to the same conclusion, but you helped put me on the right track. Ultimately I ended up going with a combination of HOTAS / Keyboard & Mouse. For non gimbaled weapons I use HOTAS, and for gimbaled weapons I simply switch my right hand (Stick) over to the mouse. Currently strafe right left and up down are mapped to a single four way switch on my throttle.
Keep up the good work Noobifier!
+James Taggart interesting and thanks for posting. Thanks for watching
Org mate just shared this video. This is the video that convinced me to switch from HOTAS to HOSAS almost 4 years ago!
Thank you for all you do for the SC community, Noobifier!!! Keep up the great work
+KancerKowboy thank you.
interesting videos, i'll see if i can test that. I already have the second joystick you bought, and it will be perfect if it works well as a duo.
+Brice B (Thojira) totally worth the time to test it
Love the videos! I'm still torn between duel sticks /pedals/ stick with twist... Also I paid alot for my Warthog Throttle... Would be sad to put it aside, since SC is my only sim. But I'll have to try out duel sticks with my spare. :)
I love the thrustmaster t16000m platform because I can switch from hotas to dual stick any time, and rudder pedals work with both, just by switching profiles
Thanks I just ordered my T16000m
+CocoaSip nice it is a good valued stick
Nice vid Noob :) Thanks for the info. I might do the 1600's but... i might see what CH does.. one of my favorite old joysticks was the CH Flightstick (Flightyoke) Pro, used that for Privateer, WC1/2, Descent, several others, and if they can make something that enjoyable again in the new age.. id be sold.
+taloncore You should totally wait a month to see what is coming out. The prices might drop on the others, but the T16000 is already so cheap..
I just got the VKB Gladiator NXT sticks. Left stick has the omni-throttle conversion so it sits more like a throttle, but it's an exact mirror image of the right stick, just at a 45 degree angle. There are very good entry level sticks. About $300 for both.
Right stick is orientation: X is roll, Y is pitch, Rotation is yaw. Left stick is thrust. X is lateral, Y is throttle, rotation is vertical (because the stick is turned, it's very intuitive).
Absolutely love the setup. Perfect for space sims, and works fine for flight sims as well (you can modify the sticks so they retain their position like a throttle as well. I prefer using the built in mini-throttle switch as a "modifier" that allows me to set a base throttle level and use the stick to adjust from that zero point.)
Thanks a ton dude, thanks a ton.
Noted! I'll look into dual sticks!
I had quite a lot of success with the Logitech G13 pad with Elite. When I upgraded to the Warthog throttle and stick I was actually quite disappointed that it wasn't as usable in a space sim as the mouse and keypad was.
I'm doing much the same thing but on PS4,while the DS4 is great and all I figured I'd try out a dual joystick setup just to play Star wars Squadrons the two joysticks I"m that I'm going to use are a AVS Aviator for both PS3 and PC and a vintage Logitech Wingman extreme (yeah it uses the gameport for connection but I'm going to solve that with a gameport to USB adapter) coupled with a keyboard and mouse for extra buttons. (and a third DS4 along with IOGear's Keymander for that adapter).
This is so dope the funny thing is I just learned about this game and fell in love. Wanted to pick up flight sticks but wanted to see if it was worth it or going that other thing this video helped a lot hope to see u in there Man
the exact same here
I just got my dual stick setup. was going to go with virpil but went with the t16000m fcs duals to save money and make sure i wanted to commit to this or stick with mouse and keyboard. I barely beat vanduul swarm in 40 minutes with the two sticks ending on my last life with one wing left using a saber. did mouse and keyboard and beat it same ship no deaths in 19 minutes. i came back to these old videos to see how you did it. Well it sounds like trigger time is the answer. I guess im at that stage you were at when you went back to being totally novice but stuck with it until you got good. time to get some flight time in.
one more thing, I saw you playing project cars 2 in VR and thought i would pick that up. holy cow that's awesome. I feel like i can take off the braking line in VR as i have better depth perception. its really neat. your channel is awesome.
Keep with the practice.
I had a bit of a weird situation finding my ideal setup. My dad always wanted to be a pilot so he's spent a lot of time with flight simulators. Anytime he let me fly it was with a full setup. Stick, throttle, pedals, the works. So when I started playing SC on my own pc everything felt wrong until I had my own setup. Now that I have two sticks, a throttle and pedals the controls just disappear and my ship feels like an extension of me.
very cool i'm a lefty this will help out a lot Thank's Noob so much for all the work that you do for Star Citizen's
+Steel Raptor I appreciate you posting that up. We will get some left handed Warthogs going soon.
Useful video buddy, thanks
+Ñampa Zampa I really hope to update this with a Dual Warthog video soon.
Another great video. i actually just yesterday bought a thrustmaster t16000m to accompany my logitech 3D pro so that I can try out this setup. i dont know from experience but i think i might still include a throttle in my final setup for general cruising and possibly racing. but ill figure that out after this stick comes in the mail.
+Domm Dynamite if you have throttle why not use it
+TheNOOBIFIER1337 At the moment I dont have one. I only have the thottle built into my logitech which is really inconveniently placed. So a throttle would be an extra purchase. I am looking at the saitek x56 to replace my logitech. i really like the idea of the mini analogs. I like the idea of a strafe stick for combat and a throttle for regular flying.
+Domm Dynamite no inward proposing you use that integrated throttle
How things have changed since this was made. That picture of your initial M&K setup compared to now!
Excellent flying! I just got a HOTAS 4 days ago for my Xbox..the B button broke last night 😂 but before that I was having a blast and my piloting was insanely improved.. mostly! Just save up and get one on sale folks! Crazy money full price IMO but then again you're all playing Star Citizen..
Good honest video. WD!
Thanks man, just getting into the game, gonna try this. Game feels great on M/K, not as great on XBOX controller, but it seems like 2 sticks could be the way for me since I don't play any other flight sim games.
This is very informative I prefer dual sticks and throttle it’s awesome
Great video as normal thanks
Great video! For people wanting to try dual stick on the cheap, try Saitek Cyborg V1's. I went them because they weren't L or R handed, have a variety of buttons (7 each +hat+throttle) and were super cheap ($25/ ea.). After setting up the control sensitivity, they feel pretty good (outside of them being pretty cheap)
Recently I even picked up a old PS2 driving wheel with pedals and after a little work (very little, EASY), robbed the pedals and rewired them into one of the joysticks to control the Throttle and Brake.
+Wild MonkeyDog I am totally checking into that as soon as I get to a proper Desktop PC. Thanks
+TheNOOBIFIER1337 No problem. They certainly aren't the best sticks out there, but for the cost, they are a decent way to get set up before committing to more expensive setups.
Dude, you rock. Thank you for all the awesome videos.
+panzr110 o7
So, it is like the setup for R/C airplane radio mode 2... Nice!
Exactly
Got my sub! great vid!
+Eddie Buggz thanks and welcome
np,duder. I look forward to more vids. Ill go through your archive later when I have more time. =D
Nice vid. I started Star Citizen with keyboard/mouse, but couldn't fly very well. I picked up two Thrustmaster T.16000Ms and fell in love with them. It just feels so natural. I'm thinking on getting Voice attack soon. Been using ROCCAT Power Grid to control power, shields, etc with my phone atm.
+Drew Juszkiewicz nice, power grid is super slow compared to VA. The difference is that you don't need to take your hands off the controllers, plus it's as quick as you can speak. Thanks for posting up.
Thanks!
I'm currently using the Saitek ST290 Pro. It is left or right hand configurable, with an adjustable hand rest, and a decent and smooth feeling throttle control on its base which allows a quasi-HOTAS usage. This joystick is also relatively cheap (considering its age). I do wish that it had trim adjustments and that the hat stick was a bit easier to use. I'm still looking for the right configurations for it for Elite Dangerous though.
I use HOSAS on Descent, Overload, and Sublevel Zero. So tight spaces and some open spaces, a lot of reverse thrust as well as strafing, tight corridors, and the need to change orientation a lot. I found a hosas setup that works quite well. I don't see why it wouldn't work on Star Citizen as well.
Left stick - X axis is strafe, Y axis is throttle, Z (twist) is up/down
Right stick - X axis is yaw, Y axis is pitch, Z (twist) is roll
thank you kind sir.....great vid
+Josh Mcaffee thanks very much happy new years
Was interested in a no twist setup. I noticed everyone using it and I know twist wears on your wrists. Good to know it works.
+dlikhten Twist has a short throw compared to X or Y
You show off are performing real good at the end!
I was seriously considering this. I had a HOTAS set up with a 40 dollar thrust-master. It felt incredibly under-powered compared to controller, and mouse and keyboard. Then I met my wing man, who no matter what I did, he could always out maneuver me. We both flew sabers with the SAME set up. His skill was greater, but he was able to pull off the flourishes i desired. He flew double stick, and it seems its growing. Thank you for your investments, and tho mine are not as costly as yours, I do have to agree with you whole heatedly. I haven't gotten dual sticks, but it seems it will be my style of play. If i didn't say so, thank you for the video. You helped me make a decision.
+syrusmarks1 excellent. Thanks for taking the time to post up your story. I hope you found a controller without plateau
I have enjoyed this video. I would like to request a longer more in-depth version be made as well :)
+William D I will make an update for sure once I get a left handed warthog. Dont worry.
Thanks thanks thanks man, you really really help me, you have my subscription
+Sergio Vera Ruiz awesome. Please have a look at some of the other videos in the popular uploads section. The pipeline video did well.. o7
Great video man!
+Jordan Esbin Thanks very much.
No problem answered a lot of question for me
Great share, thanks a lot.
+Ross Cheeseright thank you
Great video!
+JAnx01 thanks
i brought a Hotas ages ago i whent back to mous and keyboard i generally fly a freelancer a fairly heavy ships slow turn speed so having full control of gimbals is soooo much better !
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video, great explaination. I was following the same flow as you with the controller setup and am currently using a Xbox Elite controller, but this looks like it will work much better for me. Thanks so much for putting this together. Do you have any recommendations for a stick with really strong resistance that isn’t a warthog, working with a budget?