Hope Dropper Lever - Unboxing, Install, Full overview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- Some cool features on this lever! Unboxing, installing and reviewing the new hope tech dropper lever.
A crucial install to any dream build bike.
Step by step install guide.
Orange & Silver colorway.
EDIT: Wow, so many new people found this video, thanks a lot for watching, hope you enjoyed this garbage and feel free to follow this channel for more similar videos. /Mr Fro
00:00 Hope tech dropper lever unboxing
0:47 Features Hope Tech Dropper Lever
1:50 Tools for install
2:05 Hope shifter mounts
2:55 Color matching
3:45 Replacing MTB dropper lever
5:00 MTB Life Hacks
6:30 Installing Hope Tech Dropper lever
7:05 Adjustment
8:05 Exposed cable - กีฬา
A quick tip, instead of using one of those cable crimps, you can just put a dab of superglue on the cut end of the cable. It stops it from fraying and also makes the cable reusable!
Ooooooh! God damn rocket scientist over here, that's a good tip®️ thank you ❤️
Doesn’t work long term. Might be alright on a road bike but not on an Mtb.
If you have access to a welder just the smallest touch on the end and it’s set for life. Also if you want to reuse the cable just nip the end off.
Soldering iron and a touch of solder/lead, boom.
I was a machinist from 92-97 and there is just something sexy as hell about a highly anodized machined bike part. Plus 10 times out of 10 you will never have to replace until you change your color scheme on your bike.
Exactly! Timeless design - And I think Hope in particular has that nailed, even their old mono brakes still looks beautiful.
Also the anodized parts when used over a long period of time get that nice patina and a bit scratched up, got to love it
The best install video ever!!
James ❤️
Great video mate. ❤
Thanks Cuzz 🤙✌️✋👏🤜🤝
Beautiful bike! Subscribed!
Welcome in my dude!
Instant subscribe. This video is great 😂
I appreciate you!
Very premium. Lots of adjustments. Good video as always.
The Bike Yoke Trigger Alpha looks amazing too but I suppose you wanted color match.
Haha no shame in the bike yoke trigger it's killer!
But yea, color... 🙄
The sight of that old dropper post brought instant feelings of shame and remorse
It has introduced nothing but pain, and strife, into my days
I'm going to go watch your videos for other things that aren't necessarily relevant to me because that was rad 😂
Props for using Peterson :D
I have this and the wolftooth remote pro on my Tech 4 levers. Gotta say the wolftooth has one advantage: adjusting the reach does not adjust the cable tension. I also wish hope had a mount that did not relocate left or right of the bar, as the distance change is much too great. They should have just designed the levers to use SRAM matchmaker
Yeah honestly the lever itself has adjustment, but since it's DM to the brake mount the vertical position is locked and moves with it, which is not great,
Only a problem if using the direct mount i guess but still
Love the humor.
What humor, this is dead serious content my friend
He is the type of person who can take a bolt and make it an interesting video
Is this a challenge?
I have one and it’s one of the best dropper levers I’ve used because of the adjustment range and lever feel. It just feels solid and I can move it into the best position for my thumb. I’ve had wolftooth and they just feel spongy and not very precise.
I’ve had a few different brands and second place for the price, comes the shimano lever.
It's that rigid and stable feel that does it I think, just no flex in any direction, just like a big fat 👀👍
Your OCD for ascetics matches mine sir. Well Played.
I have one and its great! the only bad thing was the thumb pad fell out while I was at a bike park but hope sent me a free replacement no questions asked.
Ohhh I'm gonna check that's mine attached well then lol
Beautiful, I assign high value to this item
It's crucial for success and wellbeing
Gotta love the Zohon reference at 1:39 lol
Fizzy BubbeLeCH fo life 👌
Got it. Wolftooth - go to bed. So solid feel from the Hope remote! Still waiting for the direct mount to Hope Tech 4. Two months waiting time... Using a reversed components clamp for now.
Bro! Get one from Chainreaction, they're in stock over there,
Just happened to browse through their page
@@Frorideism Thanks! But I already ordered from my LBS.
@@rewind9536 RIP! 😁 Good though, supporting the lbs ✌️
If you soak the black adapter in drain cleaner it will strip the black anodize coating, I did that to match my hope brakes and dropper and it worked perfectly
Yah been squinting at this for a while now, maybe the black actually makes it stand out more than if it was just raw..
May do this!
@@Frorideism I have the all silver E4’s so I had to do it to keep it seem less but after watching it it the black isn’t bad at all on your bike. I like the aesthetic forward mindset, I keep that the same on my bike.
@@kevankakes Ahh I see, do you have the Tech 4's or 3's?
Yeah I mean, In the end all that matters is dying beautifully...' 😆
Yo! Do you have a link for the direct mounts? I've got Tech 4 brake levers and a new HOPE dropper post lever coming, but I can't seem to find the correct mount. Cheers.
Check out the Paul’s dropper lever, it’s over built but smooth as butter, ZERO play. I’ve had a PNW(I think they are junk) it broke with one crash, I’ve also got the wolf tooth lever that one is my favorite…I would say the Paul’s is best but doesn’t have an integration option to attach to brake levers
Oh I thought the PNW ones look decent, but guess not eh,
Haven't seen the Paul's before I'll look it up!
Can't wait for this dude to finally ride his bike so i have a chance to steal it, just the front part of the bike is both my Supreme V4.4 and my old strive, i could finally have a real modern enduro bike
Wait what do you mean ride a bike, people do that?
@@Frorideism 😂 Btw after checking out more videos of yours i subbed, i really like the style and the way you talk, the quality is really up there and you don't scream at the top of your lungs to keep the zoomers enganged.
9/10 pretty cool
@@R3ddyyg Yeah.. Who misses the time when youtube was more of a mixed creative outlet, without people trying to sell you shit every 3 seconds 🤔🙄 Thanks for joining my man 👌🥰
Really nice video again! Thanks. Fully agree on the aesthetics part - that is: recognise myself on the level of details 😂.
On the allen key vs torx: my engineers-guesstimate is that it has to do with the torque (potentially) required. A torx bolt has a higher survivability than an allen bolt.
Then why not change all in torx?
Don’t know… Tradition? Costs? Fear of over-torquing and ruining the screw thread instead of the head of the bolt?
Question: do you know how the pistons of hydraulic break retract? And how to maintain and service those? I did see your previous videos which cover some - but the “how do they actually retract?” is what I missed?
It's all a big sham! 🥸😁
For pistons as far as I know as long as you regularly check seals and keep them lubricated that should be enough to make them last, as shown in that video.
How they actually retract I have no clue haha! Although I would guess that like other hydraulic systems it would be the vacuum created when pushing them out that also pushes them back in, I'm sure there's some in depth video in 240p about this somewhere on youtube!
@@Frorideism I used ChatGPT to find the right words to lead me to an answer. There had to be something with the seals being square and not round I thought.
After a long trying of differently phrased ever more detailed questions I found the following - and after that I found more material on the internet confirming it:
1. “Suction” behind the pistons - but that is limited in force
2. The spring between the break pads - limited in force as well
3. Main force: the square seal being pushed against a sloped seating, deforming the seal while breaking - and pulling the piston back when the pressure of the oil drops when releasing the break lever.
So, keeping the seating of the square O ring clean is essential. But as it is only accessible via a very narrow slid, keeping dirt out is essential. And cleaning the pistons and the inside of the calliper thoroughly actually increases the probability on fine dust getting in the slid.
We have excellent Santos bikes and made long trips. The malfunctioning of the Hope Tech3 V4 callipers did grow into a very long search, including the bike manufacturer and even contact with Hope via them.
Using DOT5.1 resistant lubricant paste as used for cars on the pistons (greasing but as well blocking the slid) did solve our problem so far. So far… we keep being suspicious and I have seen so many TH-cam videos on these breaks by now…
So my appreciation for you videos is honest in comparison with many many others!
@@WinoSnip wooooow you went all in for that comment, love that 👌
Interesting read for sure, GPT has so many uses it's crazy, i used it to learn about the trails here in vancouver before coming here..!
Mate most youtubers are so scared of pissing companies of haha, apart from people like Hambini etc,
I find it strange, only the the big channels make money here anyhow..
If something's messed up why not say it or atleast be open to the possibility that some parts or features are simply bad design 😂
thanks - it was not intended as a comment on Hope or Santos or the flag store bike shop where we bought our bikes some years ago… no, it’s about some apparently essential knowledge not being present at many involved. Not a complaint either to those involved, just an observation. And my struggle to get it all sorted out - as engineer.
But when I was in need of assistance as our break pistons started not to with-track fully any more during a long trip, and I did not have a clue what was going on… that is where I felt euh… challenged to find it out myself. With help of others like yourself! Thanks for that!
Hope Aesthetic OCD is most definitely one of the most pleasing in soo many ways. I too have colour matches 🤘❤️🌈🕊️🌎
Hell yeah! And then you feel like a little girl with a new haircut when someone compliments the bling 👌😎
@@Frorideismhave you thought to remove the new anodised black adapter and take back to raw to match your lever and also brake calliper mount? Mmmmmmm delicious 😂🤘❤️🌈🕊️🌎
@@adrianwilkinson2547 Haha yaah maaaaaybe! Been eyeing this up for a while now and maybe the black actually stands out more than if it was matching,
May get rid of the coating on it
CLEAAAAAN
You knoooooow it!
Where did u get the direct mount for tech 4? I need them do you have link?
Hey,
I got the mounts from Chainreaction, these are the tech 3 ones, but they had the tech 4 ones in stock last time i checked too!
what is the part number of the adaptor that attached the dropper post to the break? i got the same setup as yours. thanks
Hey, you can read about the setups here:
www.hopetech.com/_repository/1/documents/Tech3XCRShifterMountSelectionChart.pdf
HBSP 325 RH and LH are the parts I have in this video.
One for each side :)
@@Frorideism thanks
I love Hope stuff, I've been buying it since the late 90s! Unfortunately the colour scheme on my enduro bike is lime green and pink (largely dictated by the frame colour), neither of which Hope do!
I still have Hope cranks/BB, headset and stem in black on the enduro bike but you need a bit of colour so I had to go pink I9 Hydras for the hubs this time. They go pretty nice with the stealth/blackout DT EX511s and black spokes/nipples, and the pink Peaty's.valves are a close enough colour match to really set them off 🤘
(My DJ bike is all Hope but it's got blue/yellow as its accent colours)
Hey some of the older hope thangs are green! But I think those parts are super tough to find, def. have to go black market for that sht 😉😁
Got to love a little random color insert! Like your valves, i sort of wish i got my hubs in just a random spicy ass color you know
@@Frorideism I hear ya. You've got to be careful though, if you add too much colour it ends up looking like a christmas tree!
Ideally I like a neutral coloured frame, mostly black or silver components and a few strongly coloured bits like hubs BB and headset to tip people off this might be a sleeper bike 😉
@@sandy_knight true true, and then it just looks silly, same goes for too many stickers..
I have some future plans to reduce some of the orangeness of this bike, but all in due time 😬
Sleeper bike haha yeah nice concept 👌
What a beautiful thing. I'd fit one to my bike, and I don't even have a dropper...
Do it! I mean, there could be other functions for it, weight increase, one-way shifting?? 👌Half of a fidget-spinner for your handlebars, endless opportunity
Overkill lever, but nice (: Make a clean cut on wire before pulling ut through the hosing to prevent tear inside housing which can cause more friction for the new wire. The birth will therefore also be easier.
The birth may or may not have been overdramatized, but yes that's actually a good tip!
In a way I'm hoping my hosing gets a bit scuffed so I can get another color that goes better with the bike 🤫
@@Frorideism 😆
Your caliper mounts would look better black 😉
And you need fox inner cable bushing. It'd a small thing you put on your inner cable on the side of the dropper. I can't attach any links on TH-cam but if you're on Instagram I can inbox you
There are future plans for this, it will all unfold within time! ;)
I bought this hope dropper lever for my trek , can it be put on to any bike or does it have to attach to the hope breaks ?
Hey Jack!
For installing directly to the brakes, you'll need to have hope ones I'm pretty sure.
So you'll need a dropper level mount for your bars in addition to the lever since it's delivered with only the lever.
@@Frorideism It´s also compatible with the SRAM Matchmaker. I have mine direct mounted to SRAM Code´s.
I'm not a fan at all of how much the cable is exposed but I still think I am going to get this lever because I always end up having problems with levers
I got the tip to add some vaseline or grease right where the wire enters, just to bead away some of the water that may try run in along the wire,
Could be a thing!
Other than that so far the lever feels way more solid than any other's I've tried
A black bolt would improve the ‘shadow’ look for the mounting bracket I think.
Ooh yeah maybe!
does the lever come with the adaptor to tech 3 brake lever? i have tech 3 brakes like you.
Hey nah you need to get adapters seperately 👌
@@Frorideism thanks for getting back to me. as much as i love the lever, knowing i need adaptors i went with wolf tooth instead. it fixes straight to the brake clamps. hope look awesome though.
send in the fork for a factory service and they will give you orange compression control and air chamber cover
Oooh but I got these fancyass silver ones bruh!
Damn. I didn’t know Bike yoke makes a lever. I gotta get one.
I love it that's your take away from this video 😁
@@Frorideism Well, my aesthetic is all black but I just bought a silver bike and I’m trying to add a touch of red, but I can’t handle that much orange. You are asking why they made the adaptor black, I’m asking why they made the lever silver. I can’t f%^k with that.
@@justinfournier1285 I hear ya buddy, yeah this bike definitely looking a bit... Euro lolll,
However, the reason for me going with the silver lever is for a future plan which involves more chrome and less orange 👀
@@Frorideism You would hate my bikes hahaha. Excited to see the new build!
Now, you should upgrade to some proper brakes, and everyone would be safe :P Hope you get it :))
💸💸😭
Hilarious.
You need an orange cable end cap, unless of course you want a shadow there
Could actually be a nice lil' detail in there fo 'sho!
Only had black, silver, blue or gold ones at home so went with the black,
maybe i'll swap whenever I change the cable next time
Wow, bike parts are catching up on value of jewelry.
Watch me wear this sht round my neck rolling up to the club 💰👌
YOU FORGOT THE SUPER LOUD BELL NOISE ON THE SUBSCRIBE ANIMATION
Oh shit, hang on need to re-upload!
en imponerande bit utav teknologi
Den inger hopp!
Lever + knee = ? New video ?
Comment + suggestion = ? New question ?
Cool, but overpriced and it can brake if you crash.
Yo with that mindset you can't own anything in life, and sleep on a cardboard box!
.. Wait I actually do that
do youo even ride tho?
Nah i mostly hang around on close to the trail head wishing for human connection