MTB Brake Change - Internal Routing - FULL PROCESS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- Acquiring some street-cred by upgrading the trail bike.
Installing the Hope Tech 3 E4 Brakes with braided hoses, front and rear + Floating discs.
Sticky pistons fix.
If you're confused about Hope's adapter's, please see this link or comment below!
r2-bike.com/docs/hope/brakemo...
0:00 Intro
0:42 Unpacking
1:01 Hope Tech 3 E4
1:30 Installing Front Brake Disc
2:19 Centerlock to 6-bolt adapter
3:38 Front brake adapter + How to chose adapter
5:17 Installing Front Calliper
6:43 Installing Front Brake Lever
7:08 Centring the Calliper
7:24 Removing Old Brake
7:51 Internal Brake Hose Routing
11:03 Installing Rear Calliper
11:10 Installing Rear Brake Disc
12:04 Rear Lever + Connecting Brake Hoses
13:24 Fixing Sticky Piston
Pickin' up alot of views on this video lately, thanks everyone for watching! (:
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Brilliant move using the old spoke to connect the lines. I just bought a kit to thread lines through internal routing. I am going to install Hope Tech 4 E4, and this video helped.
Oh i bet those kits work quite well too though!
Nice pick up dude, tech 4s are poppin' 👌
@@Frorideism The kit threaded into the old brake line, then I pulled it through from the rear. I connected the front part of the house then pulled it back through the internal routing. Super easy and worked first time.
I've always run Shimano brakes, but these Hopes are better. I love the adjustability and the lever feel is amazing. It's really light and quick. No mush or sticky lever.
@@JubeProductions What is the name of the tool you got? I have hope brakes I want to put on my bike, which currently has shimano
@@tomcunliffe4311 I just went on Amazon and searched "bike internal cable routing tool". There are a bunch of different ones. I ordered a generic one with different adapters. Park Tool makes one but it was more expensive.
It comes with a nylon cord that you can attach adapters to depending on what type of cable you are routing. I used one that threaded into the old 5mm brake line and also into the new hope lines. I just pulled the old cable out, with the new cable attached and then the new cables were routed. it was super easy.
Thanks for the internal hose routing spoke tip. It was why I searched & found your video and is very helpful.
No problem at all! Oh good that it came up via search, thanks for the comment and info 👌🥳
Great video, I was just about to mount some new V4s on my bike. Glad to see they include a spare set of fittings
Cheers bud
You did good well done 👏
sick dude 🤘
French Heath Ledger lookalike downgrades to Hope brakes 😆
Very helpful walkthrough sir
French? Downgrade!?
Blasphemy! :D
Cool this makes me think it's easier than I think, will try it soon
It's not too hard! ;) I'm not a pro mechanic by any means.
But feel free to leave a comment here if you get stuck anywhere
Thank you so much for the video.
No worries :)
Thanks from japan!
Domo Arigato! ;)
You won't be disappointed with hope brakes. I still run hope mono m4 had them over 7 years, done very little maintenance just pads, bleed 1 time
Yeah feels like people keep there hope's for so long - worth while investment :))
Hey ! Thanks, I'm about to install my new Hope Tech3 E4 on my Canyon Strive, and this video helps a lot. I still have one question : You didn't even have to bleed the brakes after cutting the hose ?
Thanks for you reply.
Hey!
I first took a first ride with em, then I did a bleed.
Just felt that the video became so long so I didn't include it. :)
Bleeding these brakes is super-easy and even slightly enjoyable, just don't forget to ziptie the bleed port because the hose will get loose!
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Nice vid, all that orange looks good with the rest of the bike. Need to put some orange grips on though!
Thanks! I actually have a pair of orange death grips but didn't like it, that was before I got these brakes though maybe should try again 🤔
Hey, great video. Can you please try to explain how did you managed to reuse the olive?? thank you.
The hope one's are easy - you just have to open it up slightly with a flathead and then clamp it together again when re-using.
the shimano-sram ones which are solid are extremely hard to re-use so I wouldn't suggest that, since you'd most likely damage the olive in the process of removing it from the hose.
Im about to fit the same caliper and i have the same shimano mount at the front. Can you please tell me where you got the new mount from or the model number please
TIA
Sure friend, iv'e added it here:
HopeDisc Brake Adapter for 203 mm Rotors
black/PM 6" to PM (63351-694-11196)
Do you know how to change one of the pistons on Hope Tech 3 V4 brakes ?
Miiiiister Bond! I have never done it myself to be honest, but I know you need to open the caliper up and do it in a certain order.
The piston can only be replaced from the inside.
I saw a quite good guide on it here on youtube a while back!
If changing pistons I would also get new o-rings,
And hunters silicone lube is recommended to use with hope brake pistons.
Gl!
@@Frorideism thanks for reply , would red rubber grease or sram butter do the same as silicon lube ?
I was thinking of buying the Shimano, but am now considering the hope. Are you happy with them?
Currently have Hayes on my canyon spectral and they are shite.
Cheers!
Hi,
Yeah Iv'e heard some crap about Hayes too..
I'm going to put it like this, I don't regret buying the Hope E4's.
The bike I was installing them on was a trail bike/DC and it has been working so well, and servicing is easy as heck, although they do need to be serviced every now and then because pistons get dry.
(This can be fixed with silicone lube, instead of the method used in this video)
With above said, I'm pretty sure that I will buy the new Hope Tech 4 V4 for my enduro when they become available.
The E4's are really nice to feather, and modulation is awesome, but power is lacking slightly, so sometimes when I go at race-speed they will need me to grip the levers really hard which takes a toll on both hands and cornering abilities. Can't slow down fast enough.
So a vote for YES on the hopes, but I would go with the V4 if racing.
If speeds are not very fast, the E4's offers amazing modulation which is really nice.
Hope this helps you :)
@@Frorideism thanks so much I really appreciate the response, I’m from the Uk but living in the US so was trying to buy from my home country.
I’m torn between the V4 hope Shimano XT or Magura brakes. Really appreciate your response and your video, Tak!
@@englishguy1985 Ah I see! I think Magura's and Hope are like polar opposites, Magura with a strong initial bite, and Hope's with a smoother bite and more modulation.
Never ridden Maguras but I know people spec them on trial bikes for their rigid stopping power.
XT's iv'e tried, and here the brakes are like in between, they work really well but the break bite reach usually wanders around so it's not as consistent and will often need some tinkering haha, some people change the fluid for something else ( can't remember the name now) and that seems to have fixed that problem tho.
I think I would chose XT or Saints over Maguras tho.
..And maybe Hope's for the bling and for you: The nationalism 😁😆
bleeding is quite complicated for me and to get a nice biteing point.. maybe you make a specific video about it? 🤘🏼
Hey! Are you on Hope brakes? They have a reaaaally good video on it, which is actually why I haven't done a bleed video, it's on their youtube.
I do have a full service video though, on both masterpiston, levers and calipers, sometimes all you need is a proper service ✌️
@@Frorideism yes I am. I didnt find a good one can you share the link?
@@ridewithandryx9382
This one goes through all steps with a few tips in there:
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And my service video on complete kit is here:
th-cam.com/video/GIINz13wHOU/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps dude! Also you can comment here if you run into any issue I can try to answer best I can
Le réglage pour les freins hope sont différents de ceux du shimano
Yeah they are different, I did put the HOPE logo in the thumbnail so it would be clear that this is about hope brakes and not Shimano etc. :)
So you didn't need to bleed the brakes?
Best to bleed!
When I did this video I thought it became too long so I left that part out.
But since you do open the system up when releasing the hose etc you will get some air in the system - bleed is good to do.
Dab of super glue on the internal jointing pipe works well ans will not pull off just finished orbea occam like that with magura mt7pro front and back.
You mean inside the hose?
I would be scared that the brake-fluid would dissolve the glue and contaminate the fluid, but maybe that doesn't happen.
@@Frorideism I wipped excess mineral oil magura blood actually off pipe ends as much as possible found a steel rod just big enough to slip into rhe ends about 1" snug with a dab of super glue on both and I could not pull them apart after a 2 mins glue Definitely bit solid the pipe would snap first. I started up the bike from the rear I had to snip the glued end off to length at the lever onve though the frame to separate the pipes. Just make sure you have a pipe longe enough to snip to length. Definitely works Iv done it. Now have magura pipe inside the frame. 👍. Ps I bonded shimano to magura hose no problem mitral oil didn't affect it.
24hours later the glued end of pipe i cut off after threading new pipe is still stuck solid. No break down of the bond I can't pull them apart and I'm strong 💪 lol. Iv actually got away without bleeding as I followed the magura procedure for shortening pipe to length without bleed. Lever is same as before pipe ✂️ brakes ar very powerful now.
Haha! That’s dope man, will remember that tip for the future 👍😎
So glad my bike doesn't have internal cable routing
"There are not orange" what a major problem... I had the "red" version of this problem, no I have tech 3 v4 😂
They are burnt orange spot on
Just use pipe that runs through frame no need to change it
Both designed differently. Bore hole, outer diameter, type of fluid they are designed to work with, aesthetics, etc.
And why have burgers when you’ve got steak in the fridge 🤷♂️
"no special tools" literally makes a tool out of a spoke he has lying around.
hehe.. Yeah you're right.. But atleast it's not an expensive special tool!
Shimano brakes junk
There's some truth in this. People using shimano brakes in my circles are rare.