False. My ethirteen lever position can also be adjusted. That being said, I like the loam lever. Not quite enough though to part ways with the ethirteen one.
Killer review as always, Mike! You guys are crushing it and we're stoked to be working with your shop! And we hear you about the plastic sleeve that wraps the cable.. trust me, it hurts us too. We're hoping to have that replaced by a recyclable paper sleeve by the end of the year and then we'll be fully paper based!
This is the best MTB channel hands down. You guys are great mechanics that present your knowledge without sounding condescending and elitist. Wish you guys could have vids everyday, but I know it is very time consuming and you are running a business. Thanks so much for the reviews and how-to videos.
Thanks sooo much! If you really love our videos, get your bikes parts from us and you'll be even more impressed with our customer service! Got whatever ya need on our website @ thelostco.com Ride on!! 🤘
This, OneUp's new lever, and the Wolftooth are the top 3 out there right now, hands down. PNW is an amazing, small, Local business full of genius bike nerds!!
Totally! We haven't spent any time on the V2 OneUp Dropper because basically every V1 Dropper didn't work within 2 weeks of being new, and the levers often just exploded on people haha.
Love your channel. Going to do my part in growing it by recommending friends to watch your stuff. If anyone deserves a big youtube following for MTB it's this guy. Fucking great content, to the point, detailed, and not biased. Keep it up
I use it on my XC racing bike. It is a very nice lever made of good quality! but far from perfect. 1) It is heavy. 2) Using I-spec2 the adapter is unnecessary wide taking a lot of critical real-estate from the handlebar. 3) You can't fit another lever on the right side (If you use it on your left) for example for fork lockout. This isn't an issue if you use Shimano shifter for example. 3) Package does not come with a cable end!, That's a small issue but super annoying when you finish installation (Very easy to install!) and than find out that you are not done and needs to go to the store.
1) a few grams extra for it to feel smooth now and for a long time is worth it. 2) We don't really ever recommend integrating dropper levers with Shimano brakes because the levers are so short. 3) We don't really ever see anybody use remote lockouts on their bars, so this is generally not an issue. 4) That is absolutely correct and there should be a cable tip!!
Mine came with a cable crimp... Maybe they forgot to stick one in or you lost it... I put a red one on to match my frame though because I will make everything I can red.
Got Xbrand Ascend dropper and that thing takes foooorce to activate. The lever "bending away" from the thumb doesn't help getting the leverage with the thumb. Wonder if this would make a difference. Can't justify an upgrade like that for more than 30$, unless the old lever brakes down completely. Also got a dropper post on my 3rd bike, by a brand called "One" I cannot find online, with a light activation stroke. Dropper posts definitely need a "Nm required to activate" stat in their specs.
We've just not been super happy with the OneUp Dropper Post and the V1 lever pretty much just exploded all the time, so we'll have to check out the V2 alloy version.
@@TheLostCo Been using it with Canyon's Iridium dropper, which has been good enough, especially for the price. The V2 feels solidly built and the bearing feels smooth.
Looks cool, I'd ride it, but not worth $70. My wolftooth works well snow, rain, or sunshine. I always ride w/ gloves, so not sure how the two compare without.
my x fusion dropper lever works. and has more angle adjustment. IMO, this is an example of unnecessary stuff. Good to buy if there's nothing else to upgrade. Just don't run the stock FOx lever(the inline one) that thing will cut your knee open
Hey Mike, I was wondering if you could also try out the yep components remote. It looks really clean but i don‘t know if it is grippy enough. Keep up the great videos!
Found a 12$ lever on Amazon and it works perfectly. But it took me 2 months or something to realize that theres a screw under the lever that tightens into the cable itself
Best lever ever! I got the loam lever after my specialized lever's pivots turned into ovals! This is way better! I just wish my tektro brake lever was not in the way but I can still reach the lever ok
Mike, you are wrong about the loam lever to be the only one on the market to allow lever adjustment tucked in or out from under the handlebar, my e13 lever has that.
That is a beauty man but why can’t they make it a bit cheaper it’s real quality but 70 dollars for a piece of metal my brand x ascend lever is pretty comfy so I don’t think I’ll upgrade but if I think of it I’ll definitely come to you. Love the van btw🤘🏼
Seems like they just come out of a 3D printer, but creating quality parts take R&D, an awesome team of employees to help the customer, high-quality materials. etc. This isn't a cheap parts, and absolutely doesn't feel or function cheap!
Can somebody explain to me how a lever is 70 bucks? I wouldn’t mind paying 40 dollars but 70? I know it’s Probably very good quality and supports small businesses but 70 bucks is really pushing it over the line.
Seems like they just come out of a 3D printer, but creating quality parts take R&D, an awesome team of employees to help the customer, high-quality materials. etc. This isn't a cheap parts, and absolutely doesn't feel or function cheap!
Just got som Loam grips but missing a screw! Emailed PNW and they told me to take a hike...so much for customer service from a "small company"...Grips felt weird and not solid due to the pattern. A bad decision on my part...gettign som Deathgrips! FYI: NEVER order grips without trying them!
I think they look great, but $70 is $70. I bought their Puget lever for $30 and thuroughly enjoy it, so I can assume the quality of the Loam lever is fantastic as well.
What do you think of the oneup components v2 lever, because they got one of the best and surely the one with the most adjustment. And it only costs 50€.
True that! PNW also makes their 2x Puget dropper lever that plays nicely with your front shifter. We have them on our website thelostco.com and make sure to select the "2x" version to get the right one! -Tor 👍
@@TheLostCo ive been running it for the last year and its been flawless so far..well built kit..cane creek is down the road from where i live so their stuff is in all the mtb stores around here.. blue.canecreek.com/products/suspension/accessories/dropt Great channel btw🤙🤙🤙🤙more videos my dude
We'll have a comparison video up soon! Basically they're both awesome, so go with Wolf Tooth if you want knurling or get the Loam Lever if you want the rubber thumb pad!
@@TheLostCo I have one on my bike its really light is there any like the wolf tooth that is light action because I don't really like the heavy dropper levers it hurts my thumbs
The Process 153 uses a 205x60 shock. We've got DHX2's and Marzocchi Bomber CR's in stock in that size, plus MRP Progressive springs (which is what you'll want)/. Grab what ya need on our webste @ thelsotco.com and you'll get free shipping in the USA!
Compared to super cheaer levers, yes, but you get what you pay for and I don't think anyone with a nice lever like this would argue that it wasn't worth it!
Which are you more stoked on? The PNW Loam Lever or the Wolf Tooth ReMote? 🤔
The Lost Co. Liam lever seems more ergonomic🤘🏼
PNW coming tomorrow
Loam
False. My ethirteen lever position can also be adjusted. That being said, I like the loam lever. Not quite enough though to part ways with the ethirteen one.
Instablaster...
Killer review as always, Mike! You guys are crushing it and we're stoked to be working with your shop! And we hear you about the plastic sleeve that wraps the cable.. trust me, it hurts us too. We're hoping to have that replaced by a recyclable paper sleeve by the end of the year and then we'll be fully paper based!
Theu replaced that plastic sleeve with a paper one! Lol just got one today
the fetishization of dropper levers is now complete.
This is the best MTB channel hands down. You guys are great mechanics that present your knowledge without sounding condescending and elitist. Wish you guys could have vids everyday, but I know it is very time consuming and you are running a business. Thanks so much for the reviews and how-to videos.
Thanks sooo much! If you really love our videos, get your bikes parts from us and you'll be even more impressed with our customer service! Got whatever ya need on our website @ thelostco.com
Ride on!! 🤘
This, OneUp's new lever, and the Wolftooth are the top 3 out there right now, hands down. PNW is an amazing, small, Local business full of genius bike nerds!!
Totally! We haven't spent any time on the V2 OneUp Dropper because basically every V1 Dropper didn't work within 2 weeks of being new, and the levers often just exploded on people haha.
@@TheLostCo well, I can confirm the new alloy OneUp lever is next to bombproof and reliable.
I got one the other day and I'm loving it already!
Nice! Grab what ya need from us next time @ thelostco.com, we'd love to have ya!
Love your channel. Going to do my part in growing it by recommending friends to watch your stuff. If anyone deserves a big youtube following for MTB it's this guy. Fucking great content, to the point, detailed, and not biased. Keep it up
definitely the best lever I have ever tried. Absolutely worth the money. Plus it looks fantastic.
It really does look awesome
I absolutely love my Loam Lever. Funny how a lever can make such a big difference. Great channel!
Thanks for this. Helped me make a decision on what I’m choosing for a lever.... yes the pnw loam !!!!
Cane Creek Dropt is also another great option. Highly adjustable, and very light and great action. Downside is little slippery thump contact area.
I use it on my XC racing bike.
It is a very nice lever made of good quality! but far from perfect.
1) It is heavy.
2) Using I-spec2 the adapter is unnecessary wide taking a lot of critical real-estate from the handlebar.
3) You can't fit another lever on the right side (If you use it on your left) for example for fork lockout. This isn't an issue if you use Shimano shifter for example.
3) Package does not come with a cable end!, That's a small issue but super annoying when you finish installation (Very easy to install!) and than find out that you are not done and needs to go to the store.
1) a few grams extra for it to feel smooth now and for a long time is worth it.
2) We don't really ever recommend integrating dropper levers with Shimano brakes because the levers are so short.
3) We don't really ever see anybody use remote lockouts on their bars, so this is generally not an issue.
4) That is absolutely correct and there should be a cable tip!!
Mine came with a cable crimp... Maybe they forgot to stick one in or you lost it... I put a red one on to match my frame though because I will make everything I can red.
Got Xbrand Ascend dropper and that thing takes foooorce to activate. The lever "bending away" from the thumb doesn't help getting the leverage with the thumb.
Wonder if this would make a difference. Can't justify an upgrade like that for more than 30$, unless the old lever brakes down completely.
Also got a dropper post on my 3rd bike, by a brand called "One" I cannot find online, with a light activation stroke.
Dropper posts definitely need a "Nm required to activate" stat in their specs.
OneUp V2 lever amazing too. Great upgrade.
We've just not been super happy with the OneUp Dropper Post and the V1 lever pretty much just exploded all the time, so we'll have to check out the V2 alloy version.
@@TheLostCo Been using it with Canyon's Iridium dropper, which has been good enough, especially for the price. The V2 feels solidly built and the bearing feels smooth.
The oneup feels smooth, but don't like the angle of trajectory, feels like you have to push down and forward. The Loam feels natural.
Looks cool, I'd ride it, but not worth $70. My wolftooth works well snow, rain, or sunshine. I always ride w/ gloves, so not sure how the two compare without.
Hmm, the Wolf Tooth with the 22.2 bar clamp is the same price 😎
my x fusion dropper lever works. and has more angle adjustment. IMO, this is an example of unnecessary stuff. Good to buy if there's nothing else to upgrade. Just don't run the stock FOx lever(the inline one) that thing will cut your knee open
The Paul components lever is legit also. The wolf tooth unfortunately develops a bit of “slop” around the bearing and the breakaway axle.
Paul's is dope for sure! Hmm, haven't heard of slop on the Wolf Tooths, but I could see that actually!
Super easy install!working great so far.great colors!
Yeah they're great!!
Got 4 bikes, 2 with a loam & 2 with wolftooth. Gotta say.. as good as the WT is, I prefer the Loam lever.
The Loam Lever is excellent. I too was looking at the wolftooth remote, but I dislike that break away axle. Causes to develop a play.
Hey Mike,
I was wondering if you could also try out the yep components remote. It looks really clean but i don‘t know if it is grippy enough.
Keep up the great videos!
Dude i got mine recently with a bachelor dropper and it all works sick never have to think about how its working it just does
That's what I'm talkin' about!!
The bearing in the loam lever is so much smoother than the wolf tooth one
Just bought an orange/gray one from you because of this video
Btw If you buy the loam lever off the pnw website with a dropper post it’s only $50
Love my loam lever!
Hell yeah!! 🤘
Awesome! Next lever for sure
🤘 Go snag one with free shipping from our site when you're ready @ thelostco.com/products/pnw-components-loam-lever?_pos=1&_sid=ac54d63b1&_ss=r
Do they sell spare rubber pads? I could see that wearing out
I've had a loam lever for over a year and it still looks brand new. It would take a lot of friction to wear it out.
Found a 12$ lever on Amazon and it works perfectly. But it took me 2 months or something to realize that theres a screw under the lever that tightens into the cable itself
Best lever ever! I got the loam lever after my specialized lever's pivots turned into ovals! This is way better! I just wish my tektro brake lever was not in the way but I can still reach the lever ok
That answers the question when everyone else asks "Why is a lever $70?". Welp, because they feel awesome and don't explode haha.
Mike, you are wrong about the loam lever to be the only one on the market to allow lever adjustment tucked in or out from under the handlebar, my e13 lever has that.
Whoops! Never taken a look at that one because we've seen like 1 out of 100 e*thirteen dropper posts actually work 😂
@@TheLostCo Yeah the post is not that great, I use a PNW ridge dropper but I kept the e13 remote, lol
That is a beauty man but why can’t they make it a bit cheaper it’s real quality but 70 dollars for a piece of metal my brand x ascend lever is pretty comfy so I don’t think I’ll upgrade but if I think of it I’ll definitely come to you. Love the van btw🤘🏼
Seems like they just come out of a 3D printer, but creating quality parts take R&D, an awesome team of employees to help the customer, high-quality materials. etc. This isn't a cheap parts, and absolutely doesn't feel or function cheap!
Can somebody explain to me how a lever is 70 bucks? I wouldn’t mind paying 40 dollars but 70? I know it’s Probably very good quality and supports small businesses but 70 bucks is really pushing it over the line.
Seems like they just come out of a 3D printer, but creating quality parts take R&D, an awesome team of employees to help the customer, high-quality materials. etc. This isn't a cheap parts, and absolutely doesn't feel or function cheap!
You had me at "wrenchin'"
I had one on my old bike for a few months this summer and I loved it! I'll likely get another to replace the RF Turbine lever on my new bike 👍
Heck yeah! Grab one on our website for your new bike at: thelostco.com/products/pnw-components-loam-lever?_pos=1&_sid=5a6857a93&_ss=r
I still prefer the feel of the Specialized Command SLR LE. And it costs half as much. And it weighs half as much.
Just got som Loam grips but missing a screw! Emailed PNW and they told
me to take a hike...so much for customer service from a "small
company"...Grips felt weird and not solid due to the pattern. A bad
decision on my part...gettign som Deathgrips! FYI: NEVER order grips
without trying them!
Dam that's crazy. I ordered bars through them and had good luck. Just ordered the lever and hoping for the same
USE Helix Lever still the best imo
I think they look great, but $70 is $70. I bought their Puget lever for $30 and thuroughly enjoy it, so I can assume the quality of the Loam lever is fantastic as well.
The Puget lever ain't too bad! But The Loam Lever or Wolf Tooth with a bearing just feels much nicer to the thumb.
@@TheLostCo Well if my Puget lever decides it's done, I'll probably pick up a Loam. Gotta represent the PNW :D
im growing my hair because of mike
hahahahahaha
its super pretty much... perfect
What do you think of the oneup components v2 lever, because they got one of the best and surely the one with the most adjustment. And it only costs 50€.
We haven't used the V2 stuff because almost ever V1 lever we saw exploded anytime the bike hit anything haha.
On the bike with front sprocket gear control this lever won't work by the looks.
True that! PNW also makes their 2x Puget dropper lever that plays nicely with your front shifter. We have them on our website thelostco.com and make sure to select the "2x" version to get the right one! -Tor 👍
@@TheLostCo awesome. That really helpful information. Thanks.
I want to get this, but don't know what diameter the jagwire cable is and if the size of the cable housing effects anything. Can someone help me out?
Its not the only remote with the lever adjustments..cane creeks has similar adjustment but better
Hmm, never seen or heard of anyone ever using that one!
@@TheLostCo ive been running it for the last year and its been flawless so far..well built kit..cane creek is down the road from where i live so their stuff is in all the mtb stores around here..
blue.canecreek.com/products/suspension/accessories/dropt
Great channel btw🤙🤙🤙🤙more videos my dude
Amazon did not come with a cable. Just saying.
Looks like I want one
🤘 Go snag one with free shipping from our site @ thelostco.com/products/pnw-components-loam-lever?_pos=1&_sid=ac54d63b1&_ss=r
Will this work with a Lev dropper post? Thanks
Can this be used as a brake lever also?
So is the Wolf Tooth or PNW lever better?
We'll have a comparison video up soon! Basically they're both awesome, so go with Wolf Tooth if you want knurling or get the Loam Lever if you want the rubber thumb pad!
LoamLicker approves
On the next build...
Im so confused what is this lever for!
It's for pulling a cable that actuates/activates a dropper post (a telescopic seatpost).
Best lever out there! Go PNW
Yew! PNW killed it!
Do you ship overseas?
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Review dropper posts that have light action lever
We'll do one on the Wolf Tooth ReMote too!
@@TheLostCo I have one on my bike its really light is there any like the wolf tooth that is light action because I don't really like the heavy dropper levers it hurts my thumbs
This video is for Portland hipsters, right?
Hi dude what size coil shock did you put on your kona stroke size ?
The Process 153 uses a 205x60 shock. We've got DHX2's and Marzocchi Bomber CR's in stock in that size, plus MRP Progressive springs (which is what you'll want)/. Grab what ya need on our webste @ thelsotco.com and you'll get free shipping in the USA!
The Lost Co. thanks dude will check them out
But it’s 60 bucks wtf
Bike Check on the new bike pls ;)
Thought he did one a week or so back?
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Last week I guess.
@@kyleslater5245 that was on his 153, I believe he built up a new 134 which is in this video
@@justinbertrand1431 Pretty obvious this is the 153.
69$ for a lever?!
I’m so early
(69) nice
Hey bro
Sup dawg?
Whoa, I am early
dude they´re fucking expensive
Compared to super cheaer levers, yes, but you get what you pay for and I don't think anyone with a nice lever like this would argue that it wasn't worth it!
gimmick
I do hear a lot of good things about the Loam lever but it honestly just looks exactly like a Wolf Tooth ReMote with a rubber thumb pad.