Hi Mitch, looks like you have an English axle there so happy days! You may need to measure the rear drums as standard Escorts had 8 inch and Sport / Ghia / RS had 9 inch drums. Regarding the diff ratio, all you need to do is to count the teeth on the larger crownwheel then divide it by the teeth on the smaller pinion. It will either give you 4:41 (1100cc or van-very revvy) 3:89 (1300cc - ideal all rounder) 3:77 (mk1 mexico - ideal) or 3:54 (Ghia/Sport/RS for longer legs on motorways) I have the same setup as you with a 3:89 diff and a plated LSD, cruises nicely and still will get the back end out easily with a few revs! Would avoid welding it though as that can break halfshafts easier. May be worth getting some new single decambered leaf springs too if you can as they are uprated in strength and you won't need lowering blocks. The washers you found go on top of the lowering blocks to locate them. Great video fella, reminds me of being 17 back in the early 90s doing the same with the old rave music on 😂 Cheers, Neil.
Hi Matt, looks like a standard English Adel and diff, some have the number of teeth stamped on the crown wheel and pinion. Divide the crown wheel teeth by pinion teeth to get your ratio. If they aren't marked just count them.
Hi mate, as other comments its definitely an English axle. I would recommend fitting the RS style anti tramp bars instead of the anti roll bar, and a plated lsd. Check out the diff ratio as others have described. I would also use Cunifer brake pipe instead of copper 👌👍
A good fast road set up for that axle would be a 3.77:1 crownwheel & pinion, LSD, 9" drum brakes, single leaf springs, uprated shocks & anti-tramp bars. keep your 2" lowering blocks unless you used decambered leaf springs which incorporate a lowered stance. The axle ratio would depend on how you intend to use the car. With a standard 5-speed box, you'll have a slightly overdriven 5th gear and a low 1st gear, so 3.77:1 will give you reasonable motorway cruising and decent acceleration. 3.9:1 or 4.1:1 will give better acceleration but a bit revvy at motorway speeds.
Count the crown wheel teeth and divide the amount of pinion teeth into it will give your diff ratio👍 For example 35 CW teeth divided by 10 pinion would give 3.5 ratio 40 divide by 9 4.44
Nice work Mitch , you have an English axle there mate which is good , if I was you I would sell your anti roll bar and fit some tramp bars they are brackets you weld on the axle and the rear chassis and a bar in between on both sides as fitted to standard rs’s , with your 2.1 pinto without these your axle will be wanting to tramp (forward and backwards) with all that power they are easy to fit always here to help any questions mate 👍🏻
You’re like me, organised and work clean, no mess and no messing about, as you’re not cutting any corners. If I didn’t do something fully 1st time around I wouldn’t be able to sleep wishing I’d done it 😂 the car is looking top-notch too mate, love it. Your blooper made me laugh too, Fiesta 😂 haha
That's an English Axle mate so nice and easy to get parts/spares for that don't cost the world. I'd definitely go Quaife LSD mate, I put one in my kit car with an English axle earlier in the year and never looked back. Best thing I've done to the car so far.
Good luck with the restore, Mitch, but if anyone can do it, you can. I watch your vids because they are informative and you have such an energetic way of doing everything. Thank you for sharing this with us!
To my best knowledge... Yes i stand to be corrected.. 4:11 is 1100/1300 auto. 3:89 1300 manual stock. 3:77 is 1600 manual. 3.54 is stock for 2.0L van or sedan. Did the diff have an ID plate on one of the nuts? If not count the crown wheel teeth and the pinion teeth, that will give you the ratio as Neil said. 39 crown wheel teeth divided by the pinion teeth.. I am in Oz.. 2 types of rear ends here were English (Extract diff thru front of housing) or BW.. Borg Warner ( Rear inspection plate) extract thru the rear after removing the tailshaft flange) Only this week I had the 3.54 rebuilt but was running a 3:77 in the meantime. The 3:77 i noticed was a little quicker in response but the spedo was out about 5 - 10 kmph. After refitting the 3:54 the spedo became back to true.
you have a standard english axle there [or a front loader as we used to call them] one of the diff nuts should have had a grotty square tag on it, with the ratio on failing that, tippex out + count the teeth on pinion + crownwheel, quick divide, - diff ratio tidying out my late dad's garage, i have found a RS2000 [3.54] diff in a filing cabinet...
I would also make sure you replace the half shaft bearings before you reassemble the axle. Totally agree with the other comments regards fitting anti tramp bars and a LSD unit. (RS spec 3.54:1 ratio diff is best with the Pinto and Tyoe 9). Without them you will find that the axle moves about under hard acceleration making a thumping sound and you will get lots of unwanted wheel spin especially on wet roads. Do it once and do it right is my advice. Love the videos and keep up the good work.
Lose the roll bar and fit the tramp bars, single leaf springs decambered and lose the lowering blocks, they cause on end of axle location issues and make alxe tramp worse. The panhard rod will stop all the side ways movement as the springs will twist when cornering as they have also no sideways control. Decide now if you're keeping the druns or fixing discs as you need to weld a mount to the floor if fiting discs. I'd stick with the drums for what you're doing. Most had 8inch drums the rs has 9s which you can get new. 100% English axle best one for a road car lots of upgrades out there for it.
Great to see you again fella. 💯% you have to go lsd after all the work you are putting in mitch. Don't rush on choosing one straight away though, there are lots of suppliers knocking about but you'll have to dig around the interweb . Wow,she is looking great dude. Just think, you are well past the half way mark. Almost on the home straight. Come on mate keep the energy going and you will be driving it faster than you know..✌️👍
Ha! First time I've seen you put your back in a project, not swanning around the auctions😂 Actually that's not true, it must have been a year ago you were tinkering with a Pinto to go in something - a Cortina, if I remember? Anyway, had completely forgot about the hearing aid beige Escort😆👍
I like that you do it right and build something you can be proud of .can I ask if you could recommend a paint pen I can buy to mark nuts and bolts that I have torqued up please.
English axle as used on UK cars ,8 inch drums and open diff . The interesting detail is that you;ve got 2 different halfshafts (both english halfshafts , different bunch)
Hi Mitch, looks like your making a really good job of the MK2 some on has obviously been at it before you given the bushes that are in the springs and roll bar, you have got an English axle but given you have put a grunty Pinto in it, you have got 2 options look for a baby atlas or fit bigger shafts but that will also mean putting in the big sun gears, and you will need an LSD, you will snap a shaft with out thinking about it in an English axle unless you drive it like an old woman and you will not be doing that I know that, there is more to this than you think look into it mate,
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Great video Mitch. Think the Diff you got is a 3,9 or 3.89 you tell by the lines on the crown wheel. Think you will need a 4.1 diff out of a van axle bud.
Defo have a english axle. Likely to be a 3.89 diff. With you using a Pinto a 3.54 diff may suit your application which is what Ford used for the RS2000. Only difference is that you have the 5 speed box. Keep up the good work.
Axle names there was Salisbury and Timken axle which was given to the Capri diff and the escort diffs , Atlas and english mainly refers to LSD types plates or gears Just google them and you can read it
Glad your sticking with making this car a real beauty instead of giving up like the other twat that names his cars😂 I used auto doc for the first time after watching one of your videos I picked two new wish bones for my fiesta st which auto doc stated were for my car unfortunately they were for a standard fiesta and didn’t fit 😮 I couldn’t send them back as I’d sprayed tones of 2k clear lacquer on them. I’ll be sticking with Ford parts in future
Changed so many mk2 axels over the years. Yours is a standard English axel. There’s really only 2 or 3 Axels. English, Atlas on the rally cars and import SA cars had BW (Borg Warner) Someone has already said how to work out the ratio.
Getting rid of under seal is such a depressing job . Especially if you have to do it lying on your back 😔. I'm almost rid of it on my car but it's been a hard slog !
Hi Mitch, looks like you have an English axle there so happy days! You may need to measure the rear drums as standard Escorts had 8 inch and Sport / Ghia / RS had 9 inch drums. Regarding the diff ratio, all you need to do is to count the teeth on the larger crownwheel then divide it by the teeth on the smaller pinion. It will either give you 4:41 (1100cc or van-very revvy) 3:89 (1300cc - ideal all rounder) 3:77 (mk1 mexico - ideal) or 3:54 (Ghia/Sport/RS for longer legs on motorways)
I have the same setup as you with a 3:89 diff and a plated LSD, cruises nicely and still will get the back end out easily with a few revs! Would avoid welding it though as that can break halfshafts easier. May be worth getting some new single decambered leaf springs too if you can as they are uprated in strength and you won't need lowering blocks. The washers you found go on top of the lowering blocks to locate them. Great video fella, reminds me of being 17 back in the early 90s doing the same with the old rave music on 😂
Cheers, Neil.
Weld a drain plug onto the bottom of the axle for future maintenance wish I had done it to mine 👍🏻
Wow brave decision to stick with beige colour. Same as your Grandad 😊 car
Well done Mitch - glad to see you back on the Escort - I was in danger of catching you up with mine!!
love genuine people and channels you tick both boxes mitch
Hi Matt, looks like a standard English Adel and diff, some have the number of teeth stamped on the crown wheel and pinion. Divide the crown wheel teeth by pinion teeth to get your ratio. If they aren't marked just count them.
Ah yes about time the escort came back. Only reason I watch your videos
Hi mate, as other comments its definitely an English axle. I would recommend fitting the RS style anti tramp bars instead of the anti roll bar, and a plated lsd. Check out the diff ratio as others have described. I would also use Cunifer brake pipe instead of copper 👌👍
Hi Mitch great to see you working on your escort it's looking amazing keep it up a bit at a time and you will get there can't wait to see it finished
A good fast road set up for that axle would be a 3.77:1 crownwheel & pinion, LSD, 9" drum brakes, single leaf springs, uprated shocks & anti-tramp bars. keep your 2" lowering blocks unless you used decambered leaf springs which incorporate a lowered stance. The axle ratio would depend on how you intend to use the car. With a standard 5-speed box, you'll have a slightly overdriven 5th gear and a low 1st gear, so 3.77:1 will give you reasonable motorway cruising and decent acceleration. 3.9:1 or 4.1:1 will give better acceleration but a bit revvy at motorway speeds.
Great work mate ! Good to see some more progress 👍👍
Great to see you back working on the mk2 Mitch. Keep at it
Really Glad to see you working on the Escort great video looking forward to seeing many more thanks Rob.
Nice work, man! Following along as I have the exact same axle on mine! 😁
Count the crown wheel teeth and divide the amount of pinion teeth into it will give your diff ratio👍 For example 35 CW teeth divided by 10 pinion would give 3.5 ratio 40 divide by 9 4.44
Nice to see a quality restoration,
Yes Mitch! Looking forward to seeing the Escort when it’s finished, she’s looking good!
Ly mitch missed these videos
Nice work Mitch , you have an English axle there mate which is good , if I was you I would sell your anti roll bar and fit some tramp bars they are brackets you weld on the axle and the rear chassis and a bar in between on both sides as fitted to standard rs’s , with your 2.1 pinto without these your axle will be wanting to tramp (forward and backwards) with all that power they are easy to fit always here to help any questions mate 👍🏻
You’re like me, organised and work clean, no mess and no messing about, as you’re not cutting any corners. If I didn’t do something fully 1st time around I wouldn’t be able to sleep wishing I’d done it 😂 the car is looking top-notch too mate, love it. Your blooper made me laugh too, Fiesta 😂 haha
mitch that is defo an englise axle .ps its good to see you back onit your doing well mate
That's an English Axle mate so nice and easy to get parts/spares for that don't cost the world. I'd definitely go Quaife LSD mate, I put one in my kit car with an English axle earlier in the year and never looked back. Best thing I've done to the car so far.
Great to see the Mk2 getting some love again!👍
Nice to see you back on with this Mitch :)
Great your back on the MK2 Escort project Mitch and moving nicely forward.
Hi, remember to keep the axle shafts to the same side you removed them from.
Great video mitch as always looking forward to next one 🇬🇧 👍
Nice to see this escort take shape, a decent, classy restomod. Another escort youtuber should take a lesson from you on how to do it properly 👍
when he pops up my feed i click to watch cuz he will for sure be doing the job right
Yes Mitch great to see the escort back on the channel 👏
On with the first view! Good Work Mitch!
Great video , you building my dream car you know, I've wanted a MK2 since I was a kid, and I'm 50 now!! Best wishes.
Great job Mitch,really impressed by your technical knowledge,really interesting thank you
Another great video mate 👍 it's really good to see you back in the garage...Mike skegness
Beef up those half shafts. Marcus hayes is the guy to talk to.
Mich your mk2 is looking sweet mate👌🏽gunna be a really cool car once finished
This is going to be a good looking classic when you're finished 👌 mitch .
Vid i been waiting for pal🎉
Nice one young jedi crack on keep safe and be yourself.
Another Nottingham registered classic, I'm surprised how many there are still going
Sweet as,more Escort stuff.
Good luck with the restore, Mitch, but if anyone can do it, you can. I watch your vids because they are informative and you have such an energetic way of doing everything. Thank you for sharing this with us!
To my best knowledge... Yes i stand to be corrected.. 4:11 is 1100/1300 auto. 3:89 1300 manual stock. 3:77 is 1600 manual. 3.54 is stock for 2.0L van or sedan. Did the diff have an ID plate on one of the nuts? If not count the crown wheel teeth and the pinion teeth, that will give you the ratio as Neil said. 39 crown wheel teeth divided by the pinion teeth.. I am in Oz.. 2 types of rear ends here were English (Extract diff thru front of housing) or BW.. Borg Warner ( Rear inspection plate) extract thru the rear after removing the tailshaft flange) Only this week I had the 3.54 rebuilt but was running a 3:77 in the meantime. The 3:77 i noticed was a little quicker in response but the spedo was out about 5 - 10 kmph. After refitting the 3:54 the spedo became back to true.
De cambered springs, loose the blocks. Deffo an English axle. I would fit anti tramp bars, especially with more power.
you have a standard english axle there [or a front loader as we used to call them]
one of the diff nuts should have had a grotty square tag on it, with the ratio on
failing that, tippex out + count the teeth on pinion + crownwheel, quick divide, - diff ratio
tidying out my late dad's garage, i have found a RS2000 [3.54] diff in a filing cabinet...
I would also make sure you replace the half shaft bearings before you reassemble the axle. Totally agree with the other comments regards fitting anti tramp bars and a LSD unit. (RS spec 3.54:1 ratio diff is best with the Pinto and Tyoe 9). Without them you will find that the axle moves about under hard acceleration making a thumping sound and you will get lots of unwanted wheel spin especially on wet roads. Do it once and do it right is my advice. Love the videos and keep up the good work.
Lose the roll bar and fit the tramp bars, single leaf springs decambered and lose the lowering blocks, they cause on end of axle location issues and make alxe tramp worse. The panhard rod will stop all the side ways movement as the springs will twist when cornering as they have also no sideways control. Decide now if you're keeping the druns or fixing discs as you need to weld a mount to the floor if fiting discs. I'd stick with the drums for what you're doing. Most had 8inch drums the rs has 9s which you can get new. 100% English axle best one for a road car lots of upgrades out there for it.
Yessssss your bk 😊
Great to see you again fella. 💯% you have to go lsd after all the work you are putting in mitch. Don't rush on choosing one straight away though, there are lots of suppliers knocking about but you'll have to dig around the interweb . Wow,she is looking great dude. Just think, you are well past the half way mark. Almost on the home straight. Come on mate keep the energy going and you will be driving it faster than you know..✌️👍
Ha! First time I've seen you put your back in a project, not swanning around the auctions😂 Actually that's not true, it must have been a year ago you were tinkering with a Pinto to go in something - a Cortina, if I remember? Anyway, had completely forgot about the hearing aid beige Escort😆👍
I like that you do it right and build something you can be proud of .can I ask if you could recommend a paint pen I can buy to mark nuts and bolts that I have torqued up please.
Great update! When you finishing your old man’s fez?! Still need to get mine done, need a little inspiration 😉
English axle as used on UK cars ,8 inch drums and open diff . The interesting detail is that you;ve got 2 different halfshafts (both english halfshafts , different bunch)
Great to see it back mate..
Can I ask what’s happening too with your dads mk1 fiesta that you was putting a ST170 engine in?
Succes met je restauratie 💪
Hi Mitch, looks like your making a really good job of the MK2 some on has obviously been at it before you given the bushes that are in the springs and roll bar, you have got an English axle but given you have put a grunty Pinto in it, you have got 2 options look for a baby atlas or fit bigger shafts but that will also mean putting in the big sun gears, and you will need an LSD, you will snap a shaft with out thinking about it in an English axle unless you drive it like an old woman and you will not be doing that I know that, there is more to this than you think look into it mate,
I've used Autodoc for years. No complaints at all with the products, just allow approximately 10 days for delivery so planning ahead is key.
However, I've had stuff delivered within 4 days.
Mk2 time! ❤
Great video Mitch. Think the Diff you got is a 3,9 or 3.89 you tell by the lines on the crown wheel. Think you will need a 4.1 diff out of a van axle bud.
About time
Defo have a english axle. Likely to be a 3.89 diff. With you using a Pinto a 3.54 diff may suit your application which is what Ford used for the RS2000. Only difference is that you have the 5 speed box. Keep up the good work.
English axle all day long mate! If you go lsd make sure you get 18 spline not 22 !
18 much stronger
Axle names there was Salisbury and Timken axle which was given to the Capri diff and the escort diffs , Atlas and english mainly refers to LSD types plates or gears
Just google them and you can read it
Done the like bro , long term sub.
I had a Mk2 1600 Ghia. Wish I'd keep it 😤
Glad your sticking with making this car a real beauty instead of giving up like the other twat that names his cars😂 I used auto doc for the first time after watching one of your videos I picked two new wish bones for my fiesta st which auto doc stated were for my car unfortunately they were for a standard fiesta and didn’t fit 😮 I couldn’t send them back as I’d sprayed tones of 2k clear lacquer on them. I’ll be sticking with Ford parts in future
pinion to crown wheel tells you ratio there is a chart for it in haynes manual
Changed so many mk2 axels over the years. Yours is a standard English axel. There’s really only 2 or 3 Axels. English, Atlas on the rally cars and import SA cars had BW (Borg Warner)
Someone has already said how to work out the ratio.
Diff comes out of the front = English axle
If you plan grit blast back axel make shore you seal it up making shore no grit gets inside . If you get a dti and the dif is easy to adjust.
Getting rid of under seal is such a depressing job . Especially if you have to do it lying on your back 😔. I'm almost rid of it on my car but it's been a hard slog !
if you have put a bigger engine in ratio needs to change van diffs fitted to cars for high take off but low top speed
It's a english axle but a import one i think all that's different is you have a anti roll bar, english cars don't that
English cars did have the arb
Ask marcus hayes hes ford nut
Do not change the rear wheel bearing unless you have to. The new repros from China are crap.