That is a sign your ipd isn't set right. If it is then next question is do you wear glasses? If you do then you need to have your glasses or prescription lenses. Yes especially of you are near sighted. But having spent thousands of hours in VR and never felt strain (except with a headset that could not get my ipd right).
VR can potentially cause eye strain for some individuals, but it's not inherent to VR technology itself. Eye strain can occur due to a few reasons: 1. **Motion sickness:** If your VR experience causes motion sickness, it can indirectly lead to eye discomfort. 2. **Low refresh rates:** Some older or less advanced VR systems may have lower refresh rates, which can contribute to eye strain. To prevent eye strain in VR: 1. Adjust settings: Ensure your VR headset is correctly calibrated, and the interpupillary distance (IPD) is set to match your eyes. 2. Maintain proper lighting: Avoid excessive glare or too much brightness in your VR environment. 3. Use quality equipment: Higher-quality VR headsets often have better displays and refresh rates, which can reduce eye strain. 4. Stay hydrated: Keeping your eyes hydrated is important, so drink enough water. 5. Limit usage: Don't spend excessive hours in VR; take regular breaks to rest your eyes. If you experience severe eye strain, discomfort, or any adverse symptoms while using VR, it's essential to discontinue use and consult with an eye care professional.
wear a battery pack on the back of your headset, its a game changer. It acts as a counter weight to the front of the headset AND extends the playing time of your headset. Before my neck would get sore after just 30 minutes, now the battery will run out and there's no sore neck issues whatso ever
@@robnjk Get the BoboVR M2 - it's a great quality head strap and the "snap" the battery makes when put the battery in makes you feel like you're reloading yourself as some cyberpunk android! Feel awesome and stay charged!
@@firagabird Thank you for the link. But even in that clip that says plainly of "working in VR", the guy himself are NOT really working in there, is he? Just goofing around, like any other youtuber who claims one can really do office works in there.
This is particularly useful for the folks who still have a Quest 2, and don't know the potential. You might not be able to answer, but if I'm cutting a video in Premiere, can I use one of the virtual displays as a video monitor with mercury playback? And can see 3 displays on MacBook Air M1 or M2? That woud be beyond spec, which rules. I travel and edit a lot so it'd help me cut down on weight. Thanks.
Totally! So it’s possible to have up to 2 virtual displays along with your laptop monitor, so in theory you could have one monitor that’s your timeline, one that’s just video playback, and one that has your media bin. They only caveat I can see here is the fact that Workrooms needs you to establish your desk first and I’m not sure if there’s a workaround this (maybe using a plane tray table with suffice?) alternatively you could try the app Immersed VR which isn’t quite as slick as Workrooms but allows for a lot more customization, but if you just plan on editing in Cafes or hotel rooms than it totally works
I can kind of work in Meta Workspace with simple drag and drop projects but for more technical projects its difficult. Now I never tried Meta Quest 3 maybe thats better. I love the fact that I can put myself into an immersive world but unfortunately I feel like I am looking through a scuba mask to work. I think VR work does have a future. VR work would be great for those trapped under Evil Corpo florescent lights.
I agree, would love to try the Q3 with pass through - however there is something very clearly dystopian about using VR to escape corporate fluorescent lights lol
Thank you! You can share the space and co-work from it, but I don’t think you can do any shared vr experiences from it. That’s more of a Horizon Worlds thing
Subscribed. Watching this a month after you posted it, but a cool thing that happened to me this week was some new opportunities to collaborate in the metaverse and possibly get into some unity and 3d modeling side gig work as well as work for my fulltime job to extend to our clients. Short term work looks like building out some 3d spaces and interactive experiences. Longterm, who knows...but I would love to find more people looking to just chat and hang out in workrooms during the day and shoot the breeze or collab on things. I do wish you could have multiple screens in a meeting, but I get that there are limitations.
Picture quality is good! If whatever you’re doing doesn’t require pixel peeping too much then it’s totally doable. Comfort is more of a consideration for me
I’ll have a video coming out on immersed! I’ve used it a fair bit and it certainly solves some of the issues I’ve had with Workrooms but also has its downsides
awesome and mind blowing. one question: i already have a virtual room created in one my VR apps using Unity. can i use that to let other ppl come and join? its like i created a classroom environment with virtual objects and i want participants to join me in that and see what i am doing? in your video you are streaming your actual desk
Hmmm that’s a really good question. I doubt you’ll be able to use Workrooms as Meta has a walled garden around it, but it might be possible with an app like Immersed!
How is the FOV? i was so excited when i first started researching about vr until i found out about the limited foc vr headsets have, does it kills the immersion? im planning on getting a Quest 2 but im not sure if i should wait for the upcomming Quest 3
I’ve never found the FOV to kill immersion. One thing I was surprised about when I got my Quest 2 was the cone of clarity in the middle of the lenses. Just beyond the centre of the lenses, you can see a noticeable drop in resolution (in your peripheral vision). My guess is to keep processing power down. I believe this isn’t an issue with the Quest Pro because of the eye tracking - if you can get a good deal on a Quest 2, then it might be worth going for it because I’ve had a lot of fun with mine, but I wouldn’t buy one for full retail price at this stage
@@robnjk I think that's mainly because VR headsets use fresnel lenses which helps keep the weight and price down. (otherwise we may have two fish eye lenses instead) =D
Not 6+ hours straight. You should be taking regular breaks to prevent eye strain and honestly, I’m not sure it would even be comfortable for multiple hours
Meta Horizon is very interesting. How about data security? I develop something and everyone can watch, copy and take notes? Are there also private secured rooms?
Depending on how you work - maybe not! There’s is a very slight lag when using Workrooms, so I might not want to edit inside vr for a long time because it requires very specific and intricate mouse placement, but if you plan on using it for admin type work than go nuts
I own a business and to be honest, working in VR Headset Oculus Quest is not possible. First of all - it is not comfy to use it within an hour even tho. Second off - it is really no sense, since using a PC with no VR headset comfier and more productive. Third off - read my comment again. Thank you!
What a stupid idea. Anyone who has actually tried this (even on the Quest Pro) can tell you it's a pretty bad experience all around. Displays/Gpus capable of actually making text legible and not give you repetitive eye strain are at least 5 years away.
lol bruh stop saying it's free! you need to BUY the meta quest which doesn't come free and this app should be natively installed anyway whoever SPENT their money to get the VR headset. the disappointing thing is none of the screens are scalable and movable! you can't resize or relocate or rearrange the screen as you wish. and sighs it's still in beta, i wonder when will they actually have a complete production ready app!
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Everyone talking about that metaverse but no one talking about the eye strain you get whenever you use VR for an extended period
That is a sign your ipd isn't set right. If it is then next question is do you wear glasses? If you do then you need to have your glasses or prescription lenses. Yes especially of you are near sighted. But having spent thousands of hours in VR and never felt strain (except with a headset that could not get my ipd right).
VR can potentially cause eye strain for some individuals, but it's not inherent to VR technology itself. Eye strain can occur due to a few reasons:
1. **Motion sickness:** If your VR experience causes motion sickness, it can indirectly lead to eye discomfort.
2. **Low refresh rates:** Some older or less advanced VR systems may have lower refresh rates, which can contribute to eye strain.
To prevent eye strain in VR:
1. Adjust settings: Ensure your VR headset is correctly calibrated, and the interpupillary distance (IPD) is set to match your eyes.
2. Maintain proper lighting: Avoid excessive glare or too much brightness in your VR environment.
3. Use quality equipment: Higher-quality VR headsets often have better displays and refresh rates, which can reduce eye strain.
4. Stay hydrated: Keeping your eyes hydrated is important, so drink enough water.
5. Limit usage: Don't spend excessive hours in VR; take regular breaks to rest your eyes.
If you experience severe eye strain, discomfort, or any adverse symptoms while using VR, it's essential to discontinue use and consult with an eye care professional.
wear a battery pack on the back of your headset, its a game changer. It acts as a counter weight to the front of the headset AND extends the playing time of your headset. Before my neck would get sore after just 30 minutes, now the battery will run out and there's no sore neck issues whatso ever
Good idea! I've thought about doing that - how do you attach the battery pack to the headset?
@@robnjk But yeah I cant stress enough how big of a difference it makes...from unbearable at some point to no problem at all
@@robnjk Get the BoboVR M2 - it's a great quality head strap and the "snap" the battery makes when put the battery in makes you feel like you're reloading yourself as some cyberpunk android! Feel awesome and stay charged!
My positive story is that I learned about using Meta Horizon Workrooms, and it looks good.
Do some ACTUAL WORKS, why don't you. Type and create a document in Words or do some sheets in Excel. THAT would be tremendously informative.
Oh man, I have been looking for a video that will show exactly that and I haven't found on yet, ugh.
@@Happy-nu2lk Exactly.
Here's a programmer working in VR for 30 days: th-cam.com/video/HfplGxBO7G8/w-d-xo.html
@@firagabird Thank you for the link. But even in that clip that says plainly of "working in VR", the guy himself are NOT really working in there, is he? Just goofing around, like any other youtuber who claims one can really do office works in there.
haha agree tho
I think Immersed has a great toolset for working, co-working and functionality, and it’s free also. Maybe you can check that one out?
This is particularly useful for the folks who still have a Quest 2, and don't know the potential. You might not be able to answer, but if I'm cutting a video in Premiere, can I use one of the virtual displays as a video monitor with mercury playback? And can see 3 displays on MacBook Air M1 or M2? That woud be beyond spec, which rules. I travel and edit a lot so it'd help me cut down on weight. Thanks.
Totally! So it’s possible to have up to 2 virtual displays along with your laptop monitor, so in theory you could have one monitor that’s your timeline, one that’s just video playback, and one that has your media bin. They only caveat I can see here is the fact that Workrooms needs you to establish your desk first and I’m not sure if there’s a workaround this (maybe using a plane tray table with suffice?) alternatively you could try the app Immersed VR which isn’t quite as slick as Workrooms but allows for a lot more customization, but if you just plan on editing in Cafes or hotel rooms than it totally works
I can kind of work in Meta Workspace with simple drag and drop projects but for more technical projects its difficult. Now I never tried Meta Quest 3 maybe thats better. I love the fact that I can put myself into an immersive world but unfortunately I feel like I am looking through a scuba mask to work. I think VR work does have a future. VR work would be great for those trapped under Evil Corpo florescent lights.
I agree, would love to try the Q3 with pass through - however there is something very clearly dystopian about using VR to escape corporate fluorescent lights lol
great video! Is there any way to share a virtual experience in workrooms (e.g., youtube vr) with people in that room?
Thank you! You can share the space and co-work from it, but I don’t think you can do any shared vr experiences from it. That’s more of a Horizon Worlds thing
Ayeee Your content is incredible! Instant sub! Keep Up the amazing work fam!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your kind words!
Subscribed. Watching this a month after you posted it, but a cool thing that happened to me this week was some new opportunities to collaborate in the metaverse and possibly get into some unity and 3d modeling side gig work as well as work for my fulltime job to extend to our clients. Short term work looks like building out some 3d spaces and interactive experiences. Longterm, who knows...but I would love to find more people looking to just chat and hang out in workrooms during the day and shoot the breeze or collab on things. I do wish you could have multiple screens in a meeting, but I get that there are limitations.
Is the picture quality decent in the virtual monitors? I’d be personally interested in this for home use. I’m tired of all the physical monitors.
Picture quality is good! If whatever you’re doing doesn’t require pixel peeping too much then it’s totally doable. Comfort is more of a consideration for me
Great vid. Glad to have discovered your channel. Please can you share the link to the other vid you refer to on your other channel?
Cheers!
th-cam.com/video/ruyMJh-ZvcM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=do6CzRArhvBpxWJ7
okay lets see how this goes. I am interested to see your results.
Lemme know what you think!
Have you looked at Immersed? Interest in your thoughts on how Workrooms and Immersed stack up against each other.
I’ll have a video coming out on immersed! I’ve used it a fair bit and it certainly solves some of the issues I’ve had with Workrooms but also has its downsides
The Workrooms screens can't be adjusted as much as other programs such as Immersed.
This is true. I dislike how fiddly those screens can be though
awesome and mind blowing. one question: i already have a virtual room created in one my VR apps using Unity. can i use that to let other ppl come and join? its like i created a classroom environment with virtual objects and i want participants to join me in that and see what i am doing? in your video you are streaming your actual desk
Hmmm that’s a really good question. I doubt you’ll be able to use Workrooms as Meta has a walled garden around it, but it might be possible with an app like Immersed!
Always the problem is the use of keyboard. Wish they added mixed-reality in virtual desktop app.
how many companys or people work with VR though...not many
This is sooo cool!
172 subs? At this video quality?
Do you have any other channels, or....?
You’re too kind! I come from a video production background and worked on another TH-cam channel for two years before starting my own
does it work only on MacBook Pro or it's good with MacBook Air ??
The MacBook doesn’t matter! It’s just an app it runs
@@robnjk thanks
How is the FOV? i was so excited when i first started researching about vr until i found out about the limited foc vr headsets have, does it kills the immersion? im planning on getting a Quest 2 but im not sure if i should wait for the upcomming Quest 3
I’ve never found the FOV to kill immersion. One thing I was surprised about when I got my Quest 2 was the cone of clarity in the middle of the lenses. Just beyond the centre of the lenses, you can see a noticeable drop in resolution (in your peripheral vision). My guess is to keep processing power down. I believe this isn’t an issue with the Quest Pro because of the eye tracking - if you can get a good deal on a Quest 2, then it might be worth going for it because I’ve had a lot of fun with mine, but I wouldn’t buy one for full retail price at this stage
I'd honestly hold off until the quest 3 comes out in Oct/Nov
@@robnjk I think that's mainly because VR headsets use fresnel lenses which helps keep the weight and price down. (otherwise we may have two fish eye lenses instead) =D
@PattonProductions2023 it will have the same fov. But other things will be better. Especially pass through
do you recommend it for working 6+ daily hours?
Not 6+ hours straight. You should be taking regular breaks to prevent eye strain and honestly, I’m not sure it would even be comfortable for multiple hours
What about watching Netflix or TH-cam . do you feel more eye strain using the vr or with a normal monitor?@@robnjk
Meta Horizon is very interesting. How about data security? I develop something and everyone can watch, copy and take notes? Are there also private secured rooms?
The resolution isn't good enough to spend long period of times in VR.
I agree. My eyes end up straining after quite a while
At this point if you have a computer do you even need to buy a actual monitor?
Depending on how you work - maybe not! There’s is a very slight lag when using Workrooms, so I might not want to edit inside vr for a long time because it requires very specific and intricate mouse placement, but if you plan on using it for admin type work than go nuts
@@robnjk true
How well re you able to use your keyboard?
When I’m using pass through it works great!
Does Workrooms cast exclusively for MacBook?
I don’t believe so. I think it’s Windows too
cool thanks,
You’re welcome!
@@robnjk So my work hasn't enabled the fancy new Teams Avatars, so does the Workrooms still link to Teams or is it a bit meh?
Can I use my Chromebook instead?
Sadly it's only available on Windows and Mac right now
I own a business and to be honest, working in VR Headset Oculus Quest is not possible. First of all - it is not comfy to use it within an hour even tho. Second off - it is really no sense, since using a PC with no VR headset comfier and more productive. Third off - read my comment again. Thank you!
whoah, so even the extremely expensive official keyboards dont work properly? that's a deal breaker for me.
Yeah it’s rough tbh
I dont know why, but in Workrooms my screens are insanely washed out when compared to Immersed
Oh that’s very odd. Between the two softwares I’ve never noticed a difference in screen quality
What a stupid idea.
Anyone who has actually tried this (even on the Quest Pro) can tell you it's a pretty bad experience all around.
Displays/Gpus capable of actually making text legible and not give you repetitive eye strain are at least 5 years away.
Wrong. I use VR since 2014..
@@theloner6063 cool story bro. Nice discussion point.
Said no one ever.
Except me :(
you are so cute
Moving your head around so much is making me seasick. I'll try someone else. Good day.
Aww dang Tommy. Well a good day too you too
Do some actual work in stead of moving screen around the whole time.
I don’t like doing work :(
No
:(
lol bruh stop saying it's free! you need to BUY the meta quest which doesn't come free and this app should be natively installed anyway whoever SPENT their money to get the VR headset. the disappointing thing is none of the screens are scalable and movable! you can't resize or relocate or rearrange the screen as you wish. and sighs it's still in beta, i wonder when will they actually have a complete production ready app!
Yeah dang I wish there was a word for an app that you can download without paying money 🤷♂️