Shake up your internet browser experience: operagx.gg/ThrillSeeker2 It's been MONTHS since the last newsday. I promised that I would not be "ending" Tuesday Newsday, but I instead, would ONLY make news videos when there was news worth covering. So, here we are I'm cooking up a lot of projects I think you're gonna like! More like that UIUX video... and maybe some software ;) Regarding this event + meta's "iPhone moment".. I don't think its talked about enough just how much everything is converging especially with this connect. 1. Launching the only cheap mass market mixed reality device on the planet 2. Opening up actual Mixed reality to developers with camera API 3. Announcing the most advanced AR device ever made. This connect *changes things* I'm posting lots of stuff related to my content on my discord! Discord.gg/Thrill
Take as long as you need thrill! The wait is well worth it, and we can't wait to see what your cooking you have been my favorite vr news soruce since i got into vr and that isn't changing anytime soon or not soon, the work you do to make quality videos and cover actual worth while topics that will effect us little guys is amazing! Much love brother!
Your just paying attention late. Zuck started this transformation after he first had to appear in front of congress, and everyone started to to call him a robot. Honestly most humans would look rigid under that much scrutiny.
Totally! Also totally wish UploadVR had such a following. Thrillseekers is SSOOOOooo much more polished! To be fair to UploadVr the do most videos live so less opportunity to do sexy voices and video. Love both!
No audio jack is an absolute deal breaker if they don’t have non-latent Bluetooth. Terrible decision by Meta. And it’s not just about audio quality. I use headphones for audio privacy and so I don’t noise contaminate the area where other members of my family are doing their own thing.
No FR. I do PCVR with meta quest 3, which I JUST got btw(And they already have a new model? Like are you fucking kidding me?), and sometimes when I don't use headphones, a feedback loop is created with my headset, so if somewhere like VrChat, my friends hear themselves on my mic when they speak.
You can still use a usb c dac that has better audio quality than the built in headphone jack, i use it on my quest 2, one from apple is 10 dollars or less
really makes no sense at all, not really much space saving, cost saving can't be it, surely. Only thing I can think of is it's sort of a fashion thing among hardware companies?
And discontinuing the support for previous lol...buy the new one and burn the money spent already... Not great for building company loyalty but it must be amazing for their stock shares.
??? this is awful for their stock shares. The market would prefer they just keep focusing on AI growth. This is a huge risk by zuck-not one another CEO would make.
The cost can be cut thanks to the ad revenue meta gets. Another reason they are cheap is because it's fairly difficult to get people interested in VR. Smartphones have been around for over a decade, while standalone AR/VR systems are still relatively fresh on the market.
The screen door effect on that bad boy is really bad you should at least upgrade to the quest 2 (it’s better than rift as a pcvr headset AND also has stand alone capability and u can probably find one in some timmy’s trash can)
I’d say wait because they seem to make a new headset every few years, because I felt like I should have waited after getting my quest 2 because now they’re not gonna drop Batman or the new alien game on it
This doesn't really excuse the absence of a headphone jack but just wanted to note that you should still be able to use them with a USB-C to AUX adapter.
@@Cooe.yes which although true is inconvenient for people who use power banks or are charging the device during use rather than it being a factor of you could just use the usb C port it’s more of a question of why get rid of the perfectly convenient headphone jack that requires no adapter and allows for power bank usage
@@half_real What actual person buying a Quest 3S instead of a 3 wants to play VR for more than 2.5 hours at a time? O_o If you are THAT into VR, get a Quest 3. 🤷
@@half_real on that note the 2.5 hour battery life is a great improvement that I’m glad although maybe not a massive increase from prior builds it is a great amount of time for a small relaxing gameplay session after work etc without draining all the battery and I hope we see more battery length extensions in the future especially if they continue forwards without the headphone jack
@@wrathpsp did he not say discontinued, there is a difference, they are not making more Quest 2. but they will still be updating it. if I'm not completely wrong.
@@jaredf6205 Pancake lenses are so much better in visual quality, a headset with lower resolution looks better with pancake lenses than higher resolutions Fresnel lenses. The lower battery life is a tradeoff for much better visual quality.
@@jasonhemphill8525 the 3 has lenses that need the display to be brighter because they are slightly dark and so have less battery life. The 2 and 3S have cheaper lenses and these don’t need brighter screens and so have better batteries
just wanted to say thank you ThrillSeeker. I've been following your content for years now because similarly to you, i share a passion for the technology of VR, but i've never really been in a position to purchase a headset. well that was until about 6 weeks ago when i saw this video and finally bit the bullet last month to but this, and I couldn't be happier. keep up the amazing work you're doing, thank you for everything, and have a great day whenever (if ever) you read this
The people angry about fresnel lenses on a freakishly powerful $300 introductory VR headset don't realize how little the average consumer who would try VR for that price even cares or knows.
Fair enough on that. As someone who hasn’t used VR before though, I’m wondering if a quest 2 for pcvr only would be fine as I could probably get one for very cheap
@@harshlarose6670 its okay as long as you have a nvidia gpu and a strap for the quest 2, if you have amd you will experience some encoding artifacts from long distance stuff but nothing detrimental still looks pretty good
@@harshlarose6670 I use my quest 2 to play pc games. Its been pretty good. if ur a pc gamer and want to get into vr for cheap but still have a good experience buying a quest 2 still makes sense in my opinion.
@@harshlarose6670 do note that buying a strap is basically required with a quest 2, even with a good one you need a counterweight. also they removed the quest 2 from the store.
The Vive Focus Vision was absolutely geared for enterprise use and not necessarily for the right reasons. I sat in their announcement for press and corporations and was thoroughly disappointed to hear what they told us. They actively ignored questions about the lack of improved lenses, hardware, or screens and heavily pushed that any question in that realm was: their biggest enterprise customers provided all the feedback that they used for developing the Vision. I spoke to a rep afterwards and was told that it would be "too costly" for their enterpise customers to upgrade all their hardware to a new headset had everything been improved. Instead, it was done to encourage a "more organic transition" from what they currently have. When he told me that they would be slowly phasing out any older Focus headsets over time based on available components, I knew what was happening. Basically, this was a bunch of BS about how Vive is unwilling to advance to the next generation of headsets until they have nickled and dimed every corporate entity while slowly going through their current inventory that's backlogged, under-sold, and desperately needs to be moved. Oh yeah, and I guess they have some very lucrative conteacts with government entities, so they don't want to rock those boats either. It's a huge shame, since I'd easily drop a bit more for all the improvements the headset deserved.
That really is a shame. Especially since having the newer processor was definitely planned at some point, as HTC was listed as one of the companies that was going to use it. I was looking forward to playing standalone VR Chat with a decent framerate and fullbody/eye-face tracking. Guess I'll have to wait another year or two.
The thing is, I am still genuinely tempted by the Focus Vision because things in the PCVR space are so grim. The only other HMD I am considering is the Somnium VR1 which is 3 times the price. I currently use a Rift CV1 which could die at any moment. If you have eye tracking, Display Port, and ability to be mains-powered as red lines, there just aren't many options. I am definitely waiting for reviews though as peeps did not review the Focus 3 favourably, and it seems like the visual experience is nigh identical. I suspect that the automatic IPD adjustment, and the lower price will push it into being reviewed as good-enough. I am worried about the lack of pivot at the front though, and hate how the controllers have non-replaceable integrated batteries.
@@zig131 It is really tempting at the price point and without the FB connection that Quest has. But the fact they seem to be trying to offload older hardware they're committed to selling instead of taking the loss and moving to the next generation tells me that this product is a pump and dump. Wait for the next Vive and we'll all pray they're using current Gen tech for it that time around. In the meantime, get an XR on eBay for 300 bucks or go with a Quest 3.
@@zig131 I am also interested in the new headset, the eye tracking is what I really want, but I don't want to go to a meta headset again for various reasons. I've seen a variety of headsets available right now, but this is the only one that's really peaked my interest.
@@PaysChannel This wouldn't be horrid if the eye tracking worked. It does not work right now. Many reviewers that aren't paid by Vive have stated as recently as a couple weeks ago that it's still a buggy mess. When I tried it, I couldn't even navigate the menus and had to reboot with tape over it so it'd stop overriding my navigation so I could disable it. It's just that annoying. The Vive XR with the eye tracker does a much much better job.
While i did really appreciate the videos you've put more time into, i'd like to also give a shoutout to your weekly videos. Never once had i thought of them as "low-quality" and they brought me lots of joy as a long-time Fan of VR who often feels that things don't move forward. Your speculations, coverage of news and positive outlook in general were what kindled my fondness for VR and compelled me to pick up my headset more often.
I use usb c audio out on my quest 3 so I'm sure that's the case. Personally I actually have a usb splitter so I can charge while using my headphones instead of using the audio jack since I don't have any aux earbuds anymore and don't want to use a bulky headset.
@Thrillseeker .... bro you ok? You were my go to for VR stuff/news (like once a week back in the day😅)... been a while and checked in... know the VR scene is slow but......... You get it😅. If you need something you know we're here bro.... that and that regular people grind is a bitch, so get it if just been busy AF lately with the life grind😅. Was thinking about VR and the future and you popped up in my head. ..... I don't know why but... I feel like the next few years (maybe decade) is going to pop with VR stuff (if no one gets motion sickness on VR 2.0... it over😅). Either way hope you're you're good bro.
I bought the 3 because I tried Beat Saber on a friends device. The Bluetooth is HORRIBLE. Biggest mistake Meta made. This isn't a phone you fools. Latency means everything.
Orion looks awesome, I'm glad they're giving themselves time to cook. This kind of technology is much less invasive than Vision Pro and with a correct price tag, we might just reach into future with this one.
I feel like it's important to mention if they can function as real glasses too hahaha. I haven't seen that info anywhere but for me (I wear glasses), if they were to actually better my vision + give me cool perks and be VERY customizable (remove notifications etc) I would definitely wear them.
This. If non clunky version of Orion can be made with easy to use and responsive controls while remaining subtle (ie not having to save your arms around in front of you), I could see AR as something very popular in the near future.
I have monthly investor meetings in my discord! Been working on a lot of VR software (and a few hardware projects), the crowd funding has 100% enabled that!
Silicon Carbide lenses? wow. Very cool, and I suppose not surprising that it's _something_ high cost considering I heard that they got wacky waveguide tech. I've just never heard of SiC being used for lenses though. It's a quite versatile compound- gemstones, brakepads, sanding, ballistic armor, surge protection, diodes/transistors, and now lenses, something I've never heard of until now.
what blows my mind is how vive are still using wands, anyone who has ever tried playing with the index knuckled could never go back to using wands. it just really breaks immersion when you're constantly holding an object when your ingame hands are empty.
Yes! and Meta had a wristband to command glasses ... but didn't think to pair the wristband as an option for the headset? I get games would need more certain responces, but that wristband and external cameras controling my vrchat experience would be awesome.
I'm glad you've taken time for yourself to really do what interests you! I feel it's better for everyone, even if some conveniences are lost. I think taking the time to get really hands on with development will give you a very vital worldview when it comes to the VR landscape, as we've already seen with your input on Augmented Reality in this video. I'm curious to see what you try next, and see what projects you get your hands on; especially with early on, or rough projects like GoDot's VR implementation. Love the setup btw. I should really get a piano stand...
Everytime He say it "3S" in the video My Brain auto corrected to "3DS" which always made Me Confused and having to go back to Re Hear thoses parts of the video
@@mysteur84 many higher end audio devices do not use USB, even my Bose QC35s don't support. and to buy yet another dongle to have hanging off the side of my head is not an attractive option.
@@mysteur84 those splitters all add noise to audio when charging. I have hacked the wireless Qi charging coils within phones to some success but I'd rather not have to take apart a brand new Quest 3S.
Your videos are great, my friend. I genuinely look forward to everytime I get to watch a new vid from you. Your deep-dive video on UI was AMAZING - genuinely awesome. Keep being you. -Andy
Im so glad to see you post!!! I always tell everybody about how I watch your channel when I start rambling about how exciting the VR industry is rn lol. Also congrats on the Triathlon!!
@@therandomcommenter6629Obviously they used fresnel lenses to save money, but I personally wouldn’t buy any headset with fresnel lenses in 2024. I’m not the only one either.
I agree with that, for most comfort you would want a headset with pancake lenses. I have the Quest 2, which is good enough for PCVR, but the fresnel lenses can get annoying, so I don't play for long amounts of time. Waiting for the Quest 4 though, not in a hurry here.
@@therandomcommenter6629 I understand that. However I feel like this is similar to selling a modern phone with a terrible battery, but all the other bells and whistles. Yes on paper it seems great for its price, but having one extreme downside like this is not good for promoting the future and power of VR. VR is already dragging its feet in terms of development, and I honestly haven't seen anything that impressive in the 4 years i've waited for VR to get better. For others it's been even longer.
Just found your channel with your VR UI video and loved it. Glad to see news and alike on your channel too. I hope you are enjoying your life and I am excited for your next video!
Your videos are worth the wait. I'm swamped in grad school, being a dad, generally being broke. Your channel is the only VR channel I check in on regularly because I know it will be quality. Only channel I watch with 15+ minute videos, too!
One thing that I can't get over though is that it's kinda like no ones making inovations in controllers anymore like valve. its just copy the touch controllers. even htc is. will anyone make anything new?
The quest 2 is so shitty that honestly when the 4 comes out get it. Even the 3S is worth it honestly for the price point. If you wait till quest 5 you will not be playing newly released vr games for at least 7 years and you will be stuck with all the old, unsupported, buggy, low-graphic games the quest 2 will have.
@@dabbingraccoons6416No offense but all non pcvr games are low budget with abysmal graphics and AR games are a meme, why would I buy an entire headset to play that garbage.
For someone like me who just wants a big cinema screen while I lie in bed, to watch youtube, movies or browse the net, and occasionally play VRChat, the quest 2 still hasn't been beaten. Lack of reclined mode on quest 3 is a real deal breaker that's kept me on Quest 2 even now that my controllers are broken and the tracking is messed up. It doesn't help that my Quest 3 is soft bricked right now, anyway, since I can't get in because it wants me to verify my facebook account, and I can't verify my facebook account because I'm not connected to my new wi-fi, and I can't connect to my new wi-fi because I can't get in. I read that I'm supposed to be able to change it but it just doesn't let me.
@@saftoguy2133 That motto used to be used in a correct way, not like you just did. What's ragebait about his comment? I too got this video and channel randomly recommended in homepage, immediately heard promos, long intros, lots of words about nothing and lots on bait based on nothing. This feels like a long infomercial. I too will never watch this channel if this is what it offers.
@@olisk-jy9rz its complaining about a large topic indirectly while at the same time giving no critique or acknowledging any issue directly with the video's contents other than "getting straight into the real issue". as well as using hyperbole as a direct stark contrast to the seemingly tame language used before in order to incite a reaction from the reader. What you did is genuine criticism that i would not consider rage bait because it used examples and precise ways that the video can improve. However i still disagree with what you said, the promo is easily labeled in the progress bar and can be skipped without a second thought. The actual intro is only 20 seconds long, with the rest of the runtime explaining as to why he has broken his upload schedule for so long, which instead of feeling like a scripted intro, feels like an aside directly to returning viewers making it feel shorter than it actually was. As well, for the content for of the video, nearly every line is talking directly about facts and news about the topic, which is exactly what he prepared the viewer for in the intro. Whenever he talks from opinion it is very clear that he is doing so, and even then it is on topic and talking about the news that he had talked about directly prior. None of which i would consider bait nor based on nothing.
Glad to hear you've been cooking, I trusted you were. Congrats on the triathalon too, what an accomplishment! Looking forward to seeing the VR software, and fully agree re; high-quality content.
Regular Thrillseeker videos have helped me to maintain interest in VR over the years. While I miss seeing those weekly uploads, I can only imagine how the news treadmill must have shut down every other ambitious project. Really looking forward to the future of this channel.
Starting to find it odd that none of the big vr channels have even mentioned the pico 4 ultra. I know it wasn't released in the US, but there must be more to it. Or has everyone now just become metasentric? As it's starting to feel like meta is all anyone talks about, with the odd 30 seconds to mention apple, HTC or Sony. Is it me??? Or is the hole market just selling meta products for a kickback? Also, it's good to see you back thrill!!!..🎉❤ sorry if the comment seems a bit negative, just feeling a bit overwhelmed with meta news 24/7.
I was kinda looking forward to the ultra. But same here; even my contacts have been silent after their first trial of it, never got back on quality and improvements, beyond listed spec. Nobody posting, and less global importing. I currently have the base Pico 4, and although their appstore is only passible, the hardware for PCVR is solid. _I wish I had gotten the enterprise version with eye tracking though..._
I know a channel with about 200k subs that has reviewed the pico 4 ultra (I know that isnt huge but I feel like that for the vr/xr corner of yt thats still big) its Cas and Chary XR. Sadly her accent is a little difficult to understand (at least I struggle with it from time to time )
Pico and Tiktok belong to the same company. Last year they reduced their investment in Pico, and short-term profits did not meet expectations. Tiktok does not have the same determination for VR as Meta. Pico once had huge potential in the Chinese local market, but now I am not convinced about it.
@PiterTraceurFA I think it was more a case of what nation they don't have good ties with. I forget exactly why it wasn't shipped to the US. However Europe and the UK both have access to it, with even little to no coverage of the pico 4 ultra.
I remember watching the ui/ux video and being very impressed and inspired by it. I can't believe that was already 3 months ago! But if you can produce more videos like that just less frequently, I for one am so here for it. I loved that video and it reignited my passion for VR technology and design thinking. Loving the content Thrill. I hope you enjoy making those videos and much as I enjoy watching them :)
At 300 US bones this Holiday season, sitting on Best Buy shelves beside the console aisles, with no new Nintendo Switch to compete against in that price bracket, the PS5 Pro being ungodly priced....Q3s will be really attractive to Moms & Dads doing their holiday shopping in the coming months. I prognosticate that over the course of 2025 it's going to come _close_ to the splash the Q2 made.
In other words: more kids in VRChat.. yay.... lol regardless, hope it does get more people to adopt VR. Tired of seeing people cringe when VR games get announced at game showcases.
@@culade well i'm not really a kid i'm more of a young man that going from 21 into 22 this year next day of month of the 15 and this is going to be more first time on getting a VR Headset no cap
@@culade i really don't know what it's like to be on VR i always play more traditional on gaming consuls tbh like the ps and xbox or on computers, so this is going to be very fucking exciting for me tbh no cap
This isn't a new thing. Every other major browser is spyware, too - Edge, Chrome, even Firefox. You're only safe if you use something truly FOSS like Zen.
Plus I've heard that some stuff just doesn't work on it, and even with it's reducing ram usage stuff, it still lows PCs down more than it really should
The reason it's the iPhone moment is because this is the next leap in technology that's going to lead to the ultimate demise of the smartphone as we know it. This is what Apple wants the Vision Pro to be, but the technology isn't there yet.
In the 90s if you wanted to talk to someone, you had to go meet them, or catch them at home on landline. If you wanted to know anything at all, you had to go to a library, a university, or a field expert. Then in the turn of the century, everybody started communicating from everywhere. Not long after small glass slabs could convey all of the worlds knowledge. Apple may not have the absolute best product, but they do set the markets' tone, and make the tech accessible to more people. Meta is doing as such now; participating in setting the tone, the market standard. The race for the most accessible 'everything device', beyond the glass slab. The next device is a warm rock, without any buttons or screens or ports, that somehow sends data both globally and directly to us. Who will market it first, and at reasonable price?
@@thunderbolt10031 "The reason it's the iPhone moment is because this is the next leap in technology that's going to lead to the ultimate demise of the smartphone as we know it." Hahahahhahaaaaaaaa! ....oh wait, you're actually serious?!? HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Glad to have you back. This is really interesting! I've been using you're video's to watch the VR industry, I'm not a pioneer and I've got a verry limited entertainment budget so I'm waiting for a goodtime to jump in. I'm going to gage other peoples experience with this headset and see if it's time.
70° of FOV with 25 PPD really isn't that bad. That's about the resolution that a CV1 used to have. That's more field of view than an HMT1 used to have, and it's in a sunglasses form factor. 10K per unit is a little steep not gonna lie lol but it's hideously cool to see it. Just gonna say to any meta-employees reading the comments Virtual Game Boy emulator for Orion.
70° is HUGE. I'm working with MS HoloLens 2, you can look up the price of it. The display on that is tiny and the image kind of fades towards the edges too. That makes the actual image seem like you're trying to see it through a peephole.
bro, i have been literally checking your channel and community posts for months to see any activity from you, i was legit worried, so glad you finally posted another video, i still miss your weekly tuesday newsdays!
14:10 - hype! And.. then... fresnel lenses. And... we're out. Sorry but 900+ for a VR headset with fresnel lenses isn't going to do it for me. And the old chipset... meh. Great video again though man
@@Clydefoxy Literally says 900 somehwere around timestamp I provided :p It's the HTC device, not the Quest 3S. The Quest 3S also has the newer chipset, the HTC one that's thrice as expensive does not.
I haven’t watched the video yet so in my head its either “this is as big as Steve announcing the original iphone” or “Meta announced something that has very old tech, but they’re calling it new and innovative and charging buyers their left testicle for it.”
@@ItzzzBeamo well the quest 3s is meant to be a cheaper product than the quest 3 while offering basically the same experience, so im guessing its either the 1st one (or most likely something completely different)
@@Kellan03 Part of me wants to buy the 3s because I like the quest 2 (but want to buy something that can run more bloom/reflections etc.) and the other part wants to just suck it up and buy something relatively future proof.
Not remotely close to the iPhone moment. If it were an actual consumer product that was as advertised, but also didn't require the puck or wrist band, and was at an affordable early adopter price of say $500 like the original iPhone, maybe. There's a whole world between that and showing off some work in progress device with random clunky extra parts that won't be out and available to normal consumers for quite some time. Maybe wait and give normal punters a shout along these lines when we get a real iPhone moment in this space in like a couple of years or whatever.
Alright, I watched the video fully and I respectfully disagree. This thing is huge for the world of VR and AR. When it releases, I think it has a high likelihood of changing absolutely everything.
@@anakinlowground5515 Yes, Project Orion, which is the thing he was saying was like Meta's iPhone moment. And even Quest 3S ain't remotely close to being Meta's iPhone moment either, certainly not in terms of sales and mainstream impact and so on.
@@anakinlowground5515 When it releases, hence my point. The iPhone moment was basically the release of the iPhone, not some mention of an in-progress version of something that's not even consumer ready yet and in many ways really not mass consumer ready for sure.
I definitely appreciate the approach of only uploading videos when you have enough to talk about. I feel like constantly churning out videos for the sake of making them is the easiest way to get burned out.
Hey man its great to hear from you again. maybe a week ago i was wondering why i hadnt seen anything from you lately, checked your page, and sure enough there wasnt a new video. I gotta admit it made me sad. but i get it. we all get busy, but hey if it takes you a little longer to put something out worth watching im all for it!
A huge percentage of this whole community started with a QUEST 2 and some of us cannot afford to update yet so i really don’t understand why vr-tubers seem to have that need to kill it video after video, either completely ignoring it with mental shenanigans like saying “quest 3 family” when the family itself is just called quest or like now by literally stating it is dead as if android devices didn’t keep receiving updates for a while when new models are launched………
Shake up your internet browser experience: operagx.gg/ThrillSeeker2
It's been MONTHS since the last newsday. I promised that I would not be "ending" Tuesday Newsday, but I instead, would ONLY make news videos when there was news worth covering.
So, here we are
I'm cooking up a lot of projects I think you're gonna like! More like that UIUX video... and maybe some software ;)
Regarding this event + meta's "iPhone moment".. I don't think its talked about enough just how much everything is converging especially with this connect. 1. Launching the only cheap mass market mixed reality device on the planet 2. Opening up actual Mixed reality to developers with camera API 3. Announcing the most advanced AR device ever made.
This connect *changes things*
I'm posting lots of stuff related to my content on my discord!
Discord.gg/Thrill
Take as long as you need thrill! The wait is well worth it, and we can't wait to see what your cooking you have been my favorite vr news soruce since i got into vr and that isn't changing anytime soon or not soon, the work you do to make quality videos and cover actual worth while topics that will effect us little guys is amazing! Much love brother!
eyyy promoting a chinese chromium reskin!
Honestly, the fact that you pulled off a triathlon is insane. Major props, i’m not even mad about the 3 month wait anymore
love me a big ol' dose of chinese spyware! especially with some extra bloatware on top
Welcome back thrill missed you buddy
Yeah it’s an iPhone moment alright. REMOVING the headphone jack
LMAO YOU'RE NOT WRONG
They had to compromise some stuff
don't need it anymore withe the USB being usable for gaming headphones, BUT, that means no addition battery.
It's a cheaper headset, it's going to be compromised. But I would agree if it was a quest 4.
LMFAO
2:37 AI technology advances rapidly and Zuck looks more human... Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
Your just paying attention late. Zuck started this transformation after he first had to appear in front of congress, and everyone started to to call him a robot. Honestly most humans would look rigid under that much scrutiny.
@@Fnantier huh
Ohhh shit bro I didn't even realize. They must've released the Zuck 2.0 finally.
@@Fnantierbot uh?
@@Fnantier rogue AI bot detected
He’s back I missed Tuesday news day so much
Me too man.
same here
Same, I love watching these.
Dude I went on TH-cam and went "OH YA ONE OF MY RELIGIONS CAME BACK!" LMAO
Totally! Also totally wish UploadVR had such a following. Thrillseekers is SSOOOOooo much more polished! To be fair to UploadVr the do most videos live so less opportunity to do sexy voices and video. Love both!
Zuck appearing more human is proof ai has come a long way.
I guess, but I thought he was a lizard 😅
I think he just got laid
it's because he's now a Trump voter after discovering martial arts.
No audio jack is an absolute deal breaker if they don’t have non-latent Bluetooth. Terrible decision by Meta.
And it’s not just about audio quality. I use headphones for audio privacy and so I don’t noise contaminate the area where other members of my family are doing their own thing.
No FR. I do PCVR with meta quest 3, which I JUST got btw(And they already have a new model? Like are you fucking kidding me?), and sometimes when I don't use headphones, a feedback loop is created with my headset, so if somewhere like VrChat, my friends hear themselves on my mic when they speak.
You can still use a usb c dac that has better audio quality than the built in headphone jack, i use it on my quest 2, one from apple is 10 dollars or less
@@Mutt_Buncher4 do you happen to have a link? I may buy one for my Q2. The port works just fine, but audio quality could be improved.
@JohnnyNoPockets that’s my point lol, it’s just a cash grab
@@Mutt_Buncher4 A lot of people need the USB-C for additional battery, though.
Why remove the headphone jack? Why? why?? This isn’t a phone, you have plenty of room to fit it. What the hell?
really makes no sense at all, not really much space saving, cost saving can't be it, surely. Only thing I can think of is it's sort of a fashion thing among hardware companies?
My guess is that it might be enough to make some people stretch for the standard quest 3 over the 3s
@@cloudycolacorpthey are going to release a Bluetooth headphones with "spatial" audio next year mark my words
@@r.lr.lmy thoughts exactly, we're gonna see the "Meta Headphones" drop any week now.
probably so they can sell you a special pair of proprietary headphones.
Bro Bro welcome back, said for years you should just call it Someday Newsday.
I kinda like the joke at this point. I used to stress out like crazy about TN not being on a T day. Now I embrace it.
@@ThrillSeekerVR Love you bro, hope everything in your IRL living is on par with the Digital Thrills life experience. Be easy homie.
You should really lean into it and only upload on non-Tuesdays and never explain it, and only the long time fans will know
Thrill's Day Newsday
@@ThrillSeekerVR At this point you should never do TN on a Tuesday ever again and really confuse the new subscribers.
Woah Thrill slow down on the uploads you're clogging up my feed man
inb4 6year upload gap
@@ThrillSeekerVR haha great joke! Really funny! Glad we're just joking haha!
@@ThrillSeekerVRbro you can't just say that
@@ThrillSeekerVR imagine the next thrill video being in 2030 💀
@@ThrillSeekerVRthis is Jon Bellion coded
Wow, they really did just pull an iPhone removing the headphone jack and adding three more cameras
And discontinuing the support for previous lol...buy the new one and burn the money spent already... Not great for building company loyalty but it must be amazing for their stock shares.
??? this is awful for their stock shares. The market would prefer they just keep focusing on AI growth. This is a huge risk by zuck-not one another CEO would make.
@@qa1e2r4 Didn't discontinue it as fast as the Quest 1 anyway
Let them cook. Our overlord Zuck atleast is genuinely interested in making VR better, let him cook!
@@dnsjtohthey still keep on peaking tho in stock price
7:08 500$ is hard to justify for super advanced computer with vision? Then how to justify primitive smartphones selling for 1000$ or more?
The cost can be cut thanks to the ad revenue meta gets. Another reason they are cheap is because it's fairly difficult to get people interested in VR. Smartphones have been around for over a decade, while standalone AR/VR systems are still relatively fresh on the market.
They didnt start at that price
I love how it says Saturday newsday and then changes to a Tuesday when it’s on a Sunday
average tuesday newsday moment
lmao
Fr@@HoeChan
I love when he finally remembers his channel password
Missed you!
still using my beat up oculus rift
same, just the flex cable that broke, so I have to use an external headphone
The screen door effect on that bad boy is really bad you should at least upgrade to the quest 2 (it’s better than rift as a pcvr headset AND also has stand alone capability and u can probably find one in some timmy’s trash can)
Yeaaaa been reluctant to upgrade, there’s a lot of cool headsets out there but I still feel like there are a lot of compromises with each of them.
I’d say wait because they seem to make a new headset every few years, because I felt like I should have waited after getting my quest 2 because now they’re not gonna drop Batman or the new alien game on it
same bro, my windows mixed reality is downright cooked at this point (my face too)
Its great to have you back thrill!!! This video made me remember how much I love VR and realize how its slipped my mind the past few months
Happy for you for your side projects! VR dev can be amazing and that rig in 15:55 is sick :D
This doesn't really excuse the absence of a headphone jack but just wanted to note that you should still be able to use them with a USB-C to AUX adapter.
@@isolox9796 This! So many idiots don't understand that wired headphones will still work just fine!
@@Cooe.yes which although true is inconvenient for people who use power banks or are charging the device during use rather than it being a factor of you could just use the usb C port it’s more of a question of why get rid of the perfectly convenient headphone jack that requires no adapter and allows for power bank usage
So how are you supposed to connect an external power bank in order to get more than a pathetic 2.5-hour battery life?
@@half_real What actual person buying a Quest 3S instead of a 3 wants to play VR for more than 2.5 hours at a time? O_o If you are THAT into VR, get a Quest 3. 🤷
@@half_real on that note the 2.5 hour battery life is a great improvement that I’m glad although maybe not a massive increase from prior builds it is a great amount of time for a small relaxing gameplay session after work etc without draining all the battery and I hope we see more battery length extensions in the future especially if they continue forwards without the headphone jack
Glad to hear the quest 2 is dead i just bought one
It's great when companies inexplicably drop support for a product after marketing it to you and taking your money, isn't it.
@@wrathpsp did he not say discontinued, there is a difference, they are not making more Quest 2. but they will still be updating it. if I'm not completely wrong.
same bro 😭
It's still a great headset for the price and if you use PCVR, you won't notice much of a difference between that and the 3.
@@FavorlineThey quit updating the Q1 so why should this be different
The difference in battery is due to the lenses mainly. Pancake lenses requires the displays to be brighter
Winner winner, chicken dinner.
I'd rather have more battery life than whatever is supposed to be better at the pancake lenses
@@jaredf6205what do you mean????
@@jaredf6205 Pancake lenses are so much better in visual quality, a headset with lower resolution looks better with pancake lenses than higher resolutions Fresnel lenses.
The lower battery life is a tradeoff for much better visual quality.
@@jasonhemphill8525 the 3 has lenses that need the display to be brighter because they are slightly dark and so have less battery life. The 2 and 3S have cheaper lenses and these don’t need brighter screens and so have better batteries
just wanted to say thank you ThrillSeeker. I've been following your content for years now because similarly to you, i share a passion for the technology of VR, but i've never really been in a position to purchase a headset. well that was until about 6 weeks ago when i saw this video and finally bit the bullet last month to but this, and I couldn't be happier. keep up the amazing work you're doing, thank you for everything, and have a great day whenever (if ever) you read this
Bro! The entire background sound and music is perfect!!! Kudos to you for the thrill ❤
The people angry about fresnel lenses on a freakishly powerful $300 introductory VR headset don't realize how little the average consumer who would try VR for that price even cares or knows.
Fair enough on that. As someone who hasn’t used VR before though, I’m wondering if a quest 2 for pcvr only would be fine as I could probably get one for very cheap
@@harshlarose6670 its okay as long as you have a nvidia gpu and a strap for the quest 2, if you have amd you will experience some encoding artifacts from long distance stuff but nothing detrimental still looks pretty good
@@harshlarose6670 I use my quest 2 to play pc games. Its been pretty good. if ur a pc gamer and want to get into vr for cheap but still have a good experience buying a quest 2 still makes sense in my opinion.
@@harshlarose6670 do note that buying a strap is basically required with a quest 2, even with a good one you need a counterweight. also they removed the quest 2 from the store.
@@harshlarose6670 It's perfectly adequate for PCVR. I played Half Life Alex on mine and it was outstanding.
The Vive Focus Vision was absolutely geared for enterprise use and not necessarily for the right reasons. I sat in their announcement for press and corporations and was thoroughly disappointed to hear what they told us. They actively ignored questions about the lack of improved lenses, hardware, or screens and heavily pushed that any question in that realm was: their biggest enterprise customers provided all the feedback that they used for developing the Vision. I spoke to a rep afterwards and was told that it would be "too costly" for their enterpise customers to upgrade all their hardware to a new headset had everything been improved. Instead, it was done to encourage a "more organic transition" from what they currently have. When he told me that they would be slowly phasing out any older Focus headsets over time based on available components, I knew what was happening.
Basically, this was a bunch of BS about how Vive is unwilling to advance to the next generation of headsets until they have nickled and dimed every corporate entity while slowly going through their current inventory that's backlogged, under-sold, and desperately needs to be moved. Oh yeah, and I guess they have some very lucrative conteacts with government entities, so they don't want to rock those boats either.
It's a huge shame, since I'd easily drop a bit more for all the improvements the headset deserved.
That really is a shame. Especially since having the newer processor was definitely planned at some point, as HTC was listed as one of the companies that was going to use it. I was looking forward to playing standalone VR Chat with a decent framerate and fullbody/eye-face tracking. Guess I'll have to wait another year or two.
The thing is, I am still genuinely tempted by the Focus Vision because things in the PCVR space are so grim. The only other HMD I am considering is the Somnium VR1 which is 3 times the price. I currently use a Rift CV1 which could die at any moment.
If you have eye tracking, Display Port, and ability to be mains-powered as red lines, there just aren't many options.
I am definitely waiting for reviews though as peeps did not review the Focus 3 favourably, and it seems like the visual experience is nigh identical. I suspect that the automatic IPD adjustment, and the lower price will push it into being reviewed as good-enough. I am worried about the lack of pivot at the front though, and hate how the controllers have non-replaceable integrated batteries.
@@zig131 It is really tempting at the price point and without the FB connection that Quest has. But the fact they seem to be trying to offload older hardware they're committed to selling instead of taking the loss and moving to the next generation tells me that this product is a pump and dump.
Wait for the next Vive and we'll all pray they're using current Gen tech for it that time around. In the meantime, get an XR on eBay for 300 bucks or go with a Quest 3.
@@zig131 I am also interested in the new headset, the eye tracking is what I really want, but I don't want to go to a meta headset again for various reasons. I've seen a variety of headsets available right now, but this is the only one that's really peaked my interest.
@@PaysChannel This wouldn't be horrid if the eye tracking worked. It does not work right now. Many reviewers that aren't paid by Vive have stated as recently as a couple weeks ago that it's still a buggy mess. When I tried it, I couldn't even navigate the menus and had to reboot with tape over it so it'd stop overriding my navigation so I could disable it. It's just that annoying. The Vive XR with the eye tracker does a much much better job.
While i did really appreciate the videos you've put more time into, i'd like to also give a shoutout to your weekly videos. Never once had i thought of them as "low-quality" and they brought me lots of joy as a long-time Fan of VR who often feels that things don't move forward. Your speculations, coverage of news and positive outlook in general were what kindled my fondness for VR and compelled me to pick up my headset more often.
I agree
@@dbptwg it's unfortunate that his videos are better and he gets more rest ?
I thought it was obvious. Zuck got the AI upgrade.
Thrill: "I'm aiming to not take 3 months to upload next time"
Dani: *Profusely sweating*
6:02 Can probably use a Type-C to Audio out
I use usb c audio out on my quest 3 so I'm sure that's the case. Personally I actually have a usb splitter so I can charge while using my headphones instead of using the audio jack since I don't have any aux earbuds anymore and don't want to use a bulky headset.
I tried that once on q2 and it didn't work
@@asmilenotmeantforme quest 2 has a dedicated Audio out, so it could make sense why it don't work.
Yeah Type-C DAC works
I just checked out your channel a hour ago wondering if my bell was broke because it's been so long
Glad you are back 🎉
It’s been many months and he’s finally back!!!! Welcome back ThrillSeeker!!
@Thrillseeker .... bro you ok? You were my go to for VR stuff/news (like once a week back in the day😅)... been a while and checked in... know the VR scene is slow but......... You get it😅.
If you need something you know we're here bro.... that and that regular people grind is a bitch, so get it if just been busy AF lately with the life grind😅. Was thinking about VR and the future and you popped up in my head.
..... I don't know why but... I feel like the next few years (maybe decade) is going to pop with VR stuff (if no one gets motion sickness on VR 2.0... it over😅).
Either way hope you're you're good bro.
Yeah, that last video you made is maybe the best videos on TH-cam, so, appreciated.
TUESDAY 🎉 NEWSDAY 🎉
I bought the 3 because I tried Beat Saber on a friends device. The Bluetooth is HORRIBLE. Biggest mistake Meta made. This isn't a phone you fools. Latency means everything.
I’m sure they know but there might be something holding them back that we’re not aware of
@@dbptwg I said something were not aware of, I know how a 3,5 mm jack works
beat saber need a cv1
Orion looks awesome, I'm glad they're giving themselves time to cook. This kind of technology is much less invasive than Vision Pro and with a correct price tag, we might just reach into future with this one.
I feel like it's important to mention if they can function as real glasses too hahaha. I haven't seen that info anywhere but for me (I wear glasses), if they were to actually better my vision + give me cool perks and be VERY customizable (remove notifications etc) I would definitely wear them.
We're already in the future, I know someone who got dumped and replaced by their ex with one of those shitty AI girlfriends
@@артемР-и1оyou can put your prescription in them if that’s what you mean
This. If non clunky version of Orion can be made with easy to use and responsive controls while remaining subtle (ie not having to save your arms around in front of you), I could see AR as something very popular in the near future.
Haven't been too interested in VR Content for a while, was still nice to watch your video
glad to see you back - VMuch looking forward to seeing some of your projects come to life.
& congrats on the triathalon!
You're finally back
One can only hope with the Quest 2 discontinued that people will hack the shit out of it to make it as amazing as it can be.
People have been doing that for years...
When are we getting an update on the investments from years ago????
I have monthly investor meetings in my discord!
Been working on a lot of VR software (and a few hardware projects), the crowd funding has 100% enabled that!
@@ThrillSeekerVR Where can people who have invested get access to this discord then? I guess I must have missed it in the startengine page.
WOW! it been 4 months waiting for newer video, am so glad you are back, please keep it up, hope you be successful always! ❤❤
That open pc case 👌👌 Hell Yeah dude! Looking forward to all the new stuff!
We’re so baaaack
Silicon Carbide lenses? wow. Very cool, and I suppose not surprising that it's _something_ high cost considering I heard that they got wacky waveguide tech. I've just never heard of SiC being used for lenses though. It's a quite versatile compound- gemstones, brakepads, sanding, ballistic armor, surge protection, diodes/transistors, and now lenses, something I've never heard of until now.
what blows my mind is how vive are still using wands,
anyone who has ever tried playing with the index knuckled could never go back to using wands.
it just really breaks immersion when you're constantly holding an object when your ingame hands are empty.
Yes! and Meta had a wristband to command glasses ... but didn't think to pair the wristband as an option for the headset? I get games would need more certain responces, but that wristband and external cameras controling my vrchat experience would be awesome.
The glasses are $10,000 RnD unicorns. The wristband definitely isn't ready is, and is also definitely the direction all VR is going towards
@@Mimjaythat sounds gimmicky and will probably harm metas profit
I'm glad you've taken time for yourself to really do what interests you! I feel it's better for everyone, even if some conveniences are lost.
I think taking the time to get really hands on with development will give you a very vital worldview when it comes to the VR landscape, as we've already seen with your input on Augmented Reality in this video. I'm curious to see what you try next, and see what projects you get your hands on; especially with early on, or rough projects like GoDot's VR implementation.
Love the setup btw. I should really get a piano stand...
Thank you very much for the video! Been a while since I've tuned in, but always nice to see what's going on in the VR etc world.
Everytime He say it "3S" in the video My Brain auto corrected to "3DS" which always made Me Confused and having to go back to Re Hear thoses parts of the video
0:20 what is the game showing? Looks promising.
Been out for a while. Vertigo 2. Play the 1st one though.
You can plug your audio headset on the USB c port (its an OTG one), and can have a splitter to both recharge it and listen through your headset
My high end audio headphones that I use with VR doesn’t support USB.
Removing the headphone jack was just dumb and will turn away many peeps.
@@MCoupeMike even with a USB C to jack ? (And I fully agree that was a dumb idea to take it back)
@@mysteur84 many higher end audio devices do not use USB, even my Bose QC35s don't support. and to buy yet another dongle to have hanging off the side of my head is not an attractive option.
@@mysteur84 those splitters all add noise to audio when charging. I have hacked the wireless Qi charging coils within phones to some success but I'd rather not have to take apart a brand new Quest 3S.
Your videos are great, my friend. I genuinely look forward to everytime I get to watch a new vid from you. Your deep-dive video on UI was AMAZING - genuinely awesome.
Keep being you.
-Andy
Im so glad to see you post!!! I always tell everybody about how I watch your channel when I start rambling about how exciting the VR industry is rn lol. Also congrats on the Triathlon!!
THE LEGEND IS BACK
Fresnel lenses honestly kill this product for me completely. That alone makes the price difference not matter to me.
How the hell do you think they got the price difference in the first place
@@therandomcommenter6629Obviously they used fresnel lenses to save money, but I personally wouldn’t buy any headset with fresnel lenses in 2024. I’m not the only one either.
then the headset isnt made for you clearly
I agree with that, for most comfort you would want a headset with pancake lenses. I have the Quest 2, which is good enough for PCVR, but the fresnel lenses can get annoying, so I don't play for long amounts of time. Waiting for the Quest 4 though, not in a hurry here.
@@therandomcommenter6629 I understand that. However I feel like this is similar to selling a modern phone with a terrible battery, but all the other bells and whistles. Yes on paper it seems great for its price, but having one extreme downside like this is not good for promoting the future and power of VR. VR is already dragging its feet in terms of development, and I honestly haven't seen anything that impressive in the 4 years i've waited for VR to get better. For others it's been even longer.
6:30 Important! That resolution improvement there is a Quest 3, not a Quest 3S! Even Meta is confusing people about this.
Just found your channel with your VR UI video and loved it. Glad to see news and alike on your channel too. I hope you are enjoying your life and I am excited for your next video!
Your videos are worth the wait. I'm swamped in grad school, being a dad, generally being broke. Your channel is the only VR channel I check in on regularly because I know it will be quality. Only channel I watch with 15+ minute videos, too!
One thing that I can't get over though is that it's kinda like no ones making inovations in controllers anymore like valve. its just copy the touch controllers. even htc is. will anyone make anything new?
Innovation also means you need support. Companies just don’t want to go through the pain when the path is already paved for them
ehh, I think I'm gonna wait for the quest 5 before I upgrade from my quest 2
The quest 2 is so shitty that honestly when the 4 comes out get it. Even the 3S is worth it honestly for the price point. If you wait till quest 5 you will not be playing newly released vr games for at least 7 years and you will be stuck with all the old, unsupported, buggy, low-graphic games the quest 2 will have.
@@dabbingraccoons6416he waited this long, my as well go the distance
@@dabbingraccoons6416No offense but all non pcvr games are low budget with abysmal graphics and AR games are a meme, why would I buy an entire headset to play that garbage.
@@dabbingraccoons6416 PCVR
For someone like me who just wants a big cinema screen while I lie in bed, to watch youtube, movies or browse the net, and occasionally play VRChat, the quest 2 still hasn't been beaten. Lack of reclined mode on quest 3 is a real deal breaker that's kept me on Quest 2 even now that my controllers are broken and the tracking is messed up.
It doesn't help that my Quest 3 is soft bricked right now, anyway, since I can't get in because it wants me to verify my facebook account, and I can't verify my facebook account because I'm not connected to my new wi-fi, and I can't connect to my new wi-fi because I can't get in. I read that I'm supposed to be able to change it but it just doesn't let me.
15:58 ok let him cook
Henry couldn't decide if he was an auto mechanic or a priest.
Glad to see you back with a news update. Love to see them. Good to hear you're leveling up too, we all expect great things! (no pressure lol)
Start at 2:48
How I yearn for the amateur TH-camrs who just got straight into the real issue, I'd never subscribe or watch this channel....utter JUNK!
@@Taylor-js9sg ragebait used to be believable
@@saftoguy2133 That motto used to be used in a correct way, not like you just did. What's ragebait about his comment? I too got this video and channel randomly recommended in homepage, immediately heard promos, long intros, lots of words about nothing and lots on bait based on nothing. This feels like a long infomercial. I too will never watch this channel if this is what it offers.
@@olisk-jy9rz its complaining about a large topic indirectly while at the same time giving no critique or acknowledging any issue directly with the video's contents other than "getting straight into the real issue". as well as using hyperbole as a direct stark contrast to the seemingly tame language used before in order to incite a reaction from the reader. What you did is genuine criticism that i would not consider rage bait because it used examples and precise ways that the video can improve.
However i still disagree with what you said, the promo is easily labeled in the progress bar and can be skipped without a second thought. The actual intro is only 20 seconds long, with the rest of the runtime explaining as to why he has broken his upload schedule for so long, which instead of feeling like a scripted intro, feels like an aside directly to returning viewers making it feel shorter than it actually was. As well, for the content for of the video, nearly every line is talking directly about facts and news about the topic, which is exactly what he prepared the viewer for in the intro. Whenever he talks from opinion it is very clear that he is doing so, and even then it is on topic and talking about the news that he had talked about directly prior. None of which i would consider bait nor based on nothing.
@@saftoguy2133 Yeah, i'm not reading allatt.
Your MASSIVE overreaction over suich useless stuff is enough to show who's right.
hes back!
Its 1 in the morning on monday in germany as of right now. Watching the quest 2 die is uhh... i dont have the words for it.
Glad to hear you've been cooking, I trusted you were. Congrats on the triathalon too, what an accomplishment! Looking forward to seeing the VR software, and fully agree re; high-quality content.
I'm so glad you're back man, excited for what Meta's doing with their stuff. And excited to see what you've been cooking.
HE’S BACKKKKKK WOOHOOOO
Yoooooo I missed that Thursday newsday intro so excited to see what’s next for the vr industry
anything having an 'iPhone moment' means not good
Born in 2010 clearly
Glad to see you again! No matter the wait, keep on thrilling and I'll always be thankful for the share!
Regular Thrillseeker videos have helped me to maintain interest in VR over the years. While I miss seeing those weekly uploads, I can only imagine how the news treadmill must have shut down every other ambitious project. Really looking forward to the future of this channel.
Starting to find it odd that none of the big vr channels have even mentioned the pico 4 ultra.
I know it wasn't released in the US, but there must be more to it.
Or has everyone now just become metasentric? As it's starting to feel like meta is all anyone talks about, with the odd 30 seconds to mention apple, HTC or Sony.
Is it me??? Or is the hole market just selling meta products for a kickback?
Also, it's good to see you back thrill!!!..🎉❤ sorry if the comment seems a bit negative, just feeling a bit overwhelmed with meta news 24/7.
I was kinda looking forward to the ultra.
But same here; even my contacts have been silent after their first trial of it, never got back on quality and improvements, beyond listed spec.
Nobody posting, and less global importing.
I currently have the base Pico 4, and although their appstore is only passible, the hardware for PCVR is solid. _I wish I had gotten the enterprise version with eye tracking though..._
I know a channel with about 200k subs that has reviewed the pico 4 ultra (I know that isnt huge but I feel like that for the vr/xr corner of yt thats still big) its Cas and Chary XR. Sadly her accent is a little difficult to understand (at least I struggle with it from time to time )
I mean... what did they expect by not releasing it on the biggest english speaking market lmao
Pico and Tiktok belong to the same company. Last year they reduced their investment in Pico, and short-term profits did not meet expectations. Tiktok does not have the same determination for VR as Meta. Pico once had huge potential in the Chinese local market, but now I am not convinced about it.
@PiterTraceurFA I think it was more a case of what nation they don't have good ties with.
I forget exactly why it wasn't shipped to the US. However Europe and the UK both have access to it, with even little to no coverage of the pico 4 ultra.
Been a long week, or few but finally
he return
I remember watching the ui/ux video and being very impressed and inspired by it. I can't believe that was already 3 months ago! But if you can produce more videos like that just less frequently, I for one am so here for it. I loved that video and it reignited my passion for VR technology and design thinking. Loving the content Thrill. I hope you enjoy making those videos and much as I enjoy watching them :)
Its good to see an update from you thrill, can't wait for what's to come!!
HE'S BACK!
By the way, Opera GX is spyware.
@Frostism so is google and facebook depending on how you look at it.
@@LuxGamer16 But the US companies already know everything.
At 300 US bones this Holiday season, sitting on Best Buy shelves beside the console aisles, with no new Nintendo Switch to compete against in that price bracket, the PS5 Pro being ungodly priced....Q3s will be really attractive to Moms & Dads doing their holiday shopping in the coming months.
I prognosticate that over the course of 2025 it's going to come _close_ to the splash the Q2 made.
In other words: more kids in VRChat.. yay....
lol regardless, hope it does get more people to adopt VR. Tired of seeing people cringe when VR games get announced at game showcases.
@@culade well i'm not really a kid i'm more of a young man that going from 21 into 22 this year next day of month of the 15 and this is going to be more first time on getting a VR Headset no cap
@@culade i really don't know what it's like to be on VR i always play more traditional on gaming consuls tbh like the ps and xbox or on computers, so this is going to be very fucking exciting for me tbh no cap
@JohnnyNoPockets Shaking the pillars of heaven with verbosity. Thanks, stranger. Have a like.
Opera GX is literal spyware, wtf
This isn't a new thing. Every other major browser is spyware, too - Edge, Chrome, even Firefox. You're only safe if you use something truly FOSS like Zen.
mfs will do anything but use Firefox
It pays the bills
Same is Meta. If he’s gonna promote one, may as well the other.
Plus I've heard that some stuff just doesn't work on it, and even with it's reducing ram usage stuff, it still lows PCs down more than it really should
It feels good to se you back, god i sure feel nostalgic keep going mate
nice to see you and your channel have more vision than htc with their vision! glad to see the upload
THE LEGEND HAS RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iPhone? Really? No one I know is talking about VR/MR. All of this is neat but still lacks enough daily utility.
The reason it's the iPhone moment is because this is the next leap in technology that's going to lead to the ultimate demise of the smartphone as we know it. This is what Apple wants the Vision Pro to be, but the technology isn't there yet.
In the 90s if you wanted to talk to someone, you had to go meet them, or catch them at home on landline.
If you wanted to know anything at all, you had to go to a library, a university, or a field expert.
Then in the turn of the century, everybody started communicating from everywhere.
Not long after small glass slabs could convey all of the worlds knowledge.
Apple may not have the absolute best product, but they do set the markets' tone, and make the tech accessible to more people.
Meta is doing as such now; participating in setting the tone, the market standard.
The race for the most accessible 'everything device', beyond the glass slab.
The next device is a warm rock, without any buttons or screens or ports, that somehow sends data both globally and directly to us. Who will market it first, and at reasonable price?
@@thunderbolt10031 "The reason it's the iPhone moment is because this is the next leap in technology that's going to lead to the ultimate demise of the smartphone as we know it." Hahahahhahaaaaaaaa! ....oh wait, you're actually serious?!?
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@@olisk-jy9rz I mean you’re welcome to laugh, but don’t act surprised when it actually happens.
2:18 just to get to the topic of the video is brutal dude
It’s like 2 minutes
@@Tarnishedcheese.3 2:18 actually
Glad to have you back. This is really interesting! I've been using you're video's to watch the VR industry, I'm not a pioneer and I've got a verry limited entertainment budget so I'm waiting for a goodtime to jump in. I'm going to gage other peoples experience with this headset and see if it's time.
🎉the mention of keyboard sounds (sounds pretty cool)
Quest 2 is not dead until they say so
70° of FOV with 25 PPD really isn't that bad. That's about the resolution that a CV1 used to have.
That's more field of view than an HMT1 used to have, and it's in a sunglasses form factor.
10K per unit is a little steep not gonna lie lol but it's hideously cool to see it.
Just gonna say to any meta-employees reading the comments Virtual Game Boy emulator for Orion.
70° is HUGE. I'm working with MS HoloLens 2, you can look up the price of it. The display on that is tiny and the image kind of fades towards the edges too. That makes the actual image seem like you're trying to see it through a peephole.
This channel is like esports to VR and everybody else are just casual gamers
Good to see you upload Thrill, welcome back
bro, i have been literally checking your channel and community posts for months to see any activity from you, i was legit worried, so glad you finally posted another video, i still miss your weekly tuesday newsdays!
also please release your music on spotify!
14:10 - hype! And.. then... fresnel lenses. And... we're out. Sorry but 900+ for a VR headset with fresnel lenses isn't going to do it for me. And the old chipset... meh. Great video again though man
900? where did you get that? its 300 usd
@@Clydefoxy Literally says 900 somehwere around timestamp I provided :p It's the HTC device, not the Quest 3S. The Quest 3S also has the newer chipset, the HTC one that's thrice as expensive does not.
@@KindOldRaven sorry I misunderstood
Sorry for asking, but what's an iPhone moment? 😅
I haven’t watched the video yet so in my head its either “this is as big as Steve announcing the original iphone” or “Meta announced something that has very old tech, but they’re calling it new and innovative and charging buyers their left testicle for it.”
@@ItzzzBeamo well the quest 3s is meant to be a cheaper product than the quest 3 while offering basically the same experience, so im guessing its either the 1st one (or most likely something completely different)
@@Kellan03 Part of me wants to buy the 3s because I like the quest 2 (but want to buy something that can run more bloom/reflections etc.) and the other part wants to just suck it up and buy something relatively future proof.
@Kellan03 optics is alot of what VR is. The quest 2 optic system means this thing should cost 250 max, no 225
removing the headphone jack 😥
Not remotely close to the iPhone moment. If it were an actual consumer product that was as advertised, but also didn't require the puck or wrist band, and was at an affordable early adopter price of say $500 like the original iPhone, maybe. There's a whole world between that and showing off some work in progress device with random clunky extra parts that won't be out and available to normal consumers for quite some time. Maybe wait and give normal punters a shout along these lines when we get a real iPhone moment in this space in like a couple of years or whatever.
What the fuck are you on about? The Quest 3S is gonna be out next month. Are you talking about Project Orion?
Alright, I watched the video fully and I respectfully disagree. This thing is huge for the world of VR and AR. When it releases, I think it has a high likelihood of changing absolutely everything.
How much experience do you have with Spatial Computing on the quest platform? I have a feeling you haven't had much
@@anakinlowground5515 Yes, Project Orion, which is the thing he was saying was like Meta's iPhone moment. And even Quest 3S ain't remotely close to being Meta's iPhone moment either, certainly not in terms of sales and mainstream impact and so on.
@@anakinlowground5515 When it releases, hence my point. The iPhone moment was basically the release of the iPhone, not some mention of an in-progress version of something that's not even consumer ready yet and in many ways really not mass consumer ready for sure.
I definitely appreciate the approach of only uploading videos when you have enough to talk about. I feel like constantly churning out videos for the sake of making them is the easiest way to get burned out.
Hey man its great to hear from you again. maybe a week ago i was wondering why i hadnt seen anything from you lately, checked your page, and sure enough there wasnt a new video. I gotta admit it made me sad. but i get it. we all get busy, but hey if it takes you a little longer to put something out worth watching im all for it!
A huge percentage of this whole community started with a QUEST 2 and some of us cannot afford to update yet so i really don’t understand why vr-tubers seem to have that need to kill it video after video, either completely ignoring it with mental shenanigans like saying “quest 3 family” when the family itself is just called quest or like now by literally stating it is dead as if android devices didn’t keep receiving updates for a while when new models are launched………
Put Orion and Neuralink together and you’ve got dystopia
I want
Must be exhausting thinking everything neat is dystopian
The quest 3S is better than the quest 2 in every imaginable way! Except the headphone jack... So really it's a downgrade.
It is THE downgrade!
Pay attention, literally everything is the same except the performance and adding two sensors
Lucifer was surprised at the amount of life at Death Valley.