Working in VR with Virtual Displays - Immersed VR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- I spent a week working in VR using a Meta Quest Pro VR Headset and Immersed VR.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:13 - Meta Quest Pro
0:23 - Working in VR
0:46 - Immersed VR
0:55 - Virtual Displays
3:12 - Virtual Environments
5:46 - Navigation
6:22 - Stability
8:20 - What kind of work I do in VR
9:06 - Meta Quest Pro Benefits
10:32 - VR Games & Fitness
11:46 - Will I keep working in VR?
12:25 - Let's connect
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Really enjoyed this video and the information! looking into getting one myself. thanks
I use Immersed with my Quest 2. It is still a work in progress as there are aspects that I still find a bit annoying.
1. The resolution on the headset is just not quite high enough to comfortably handle a 1080p monitor. The screen either has to be too big for comfort in order to clearly make out small text or the text becomes a bit fuzzy making it difficult to comfortably view. Some workarounds are to work with 1280x900 monitors but that itself presents a few problems. Alternatively, scaling helps make the 1080p resolution more manageable.
2. I've struggled to find a comfortable monitor layout that makes it easy to see all the screens at once without the resolution becoming a problem. I've seen some TH-cam videos on the subject, and so far the best solution to this seems to be a swivel chair with the keyboard and mouse sitting on a surface mounted over the armrests so they can swivel with you.
3. I find it very hard to drink my coffee or tea with the headset on. This means I need to stop working for a while so I can enjoy a beverage. This is annoying, but can also be seen in a positive light as frequent breaks from staring at a screen is healthy.
4. With the Quest 2 I find I need a few moments to align the sweet spot on the lenses with my eyes. This should not be a problem with the Pro and the better optics. I also notice blurriness in my peripheral vision or when looking to the sides as the lenses really only focus very well in the sweet spot due to the nature of the Fresnel lenses.
5. Battery life was also an issue, and not wanting to have wires in the way I opted for the BoboVR M2 plus headstrap. The two batteries keep me going the whole day. I am not sure if there is a mod for the Quest Pro yet, but if not there will likely be some offering of this nature in the not too distant future.
Eye strain surprisingly was not an issue with me clocking 6 hours VR time in one session. Working from home the social aspect is definitely a plus and with Immersed's virtual webcam I can engage in meetings from within the app.
Also worth noting, Immersed is the only application supporting Windows, Mac and Linux. Although Linux support lacks virtual monitors I use a dummy HDMI plug to bring an additional monitor into Immersed and can in theory add more using the display ports available on my laptop.
I like where this is headed, but I suspect for a large portion of the population the downsides will be enough to persuade them to wait while VR products mature. However, I don't think we're far away from the average consumer comfortably working in VR.
Thank you for the thorough explanation! Have you tried using Sidequest to boost the resolution and see if that makes the monitors clearer?
I was a beta tester for the Oculos Go and I remember thinking that you could learn hands on learning of many different skills where it's all set up in front of you and whether it's computer hardware and learning how to install parts or cooking and learning how to be a chef or whatever your mind has. Just being placed in those realistic environments could really be great especially in like 3rd world countries that may not have access to great learning colleges and stuff they can learn it all at home with a VR device put in a learning enviornment.
That's all well and nice but VR really started with 6dof since 3dof sucks balls
@@noahkirkpatrick8912 Virtual Boy?
@@Yizee the virtual boy was also not really VR
@@noahkirkpatrick8912 I enjoyed playing Mario Tennis though
You're right, but VR headsets are still expensive for a lot of people. It'll be amazing if Meta or other companies make VR headsets cheaper...
how good is the keyboard mapping? I recall on the regular oculus quest 2 the virtual keyboard could make to the physical one so it's a 1:1 correlation with hand tracking.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Can I use a vr headset with just a Mac mini and nothing else?
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great!
So this program is not an offline program? Can you block it from the internet? I would not want another company to have access to what my screen is displaying. Sounds like a massive security risk.
What is the longest lenght of time you were able to work in vr in one session?
Lag? WiFi? Should you not use a cable from headset to laptop for this. Would it not fix the lag problem?
Are there any virtual keyboards to work with?
Can you do all this with a quest 3
Could you please say what resolutions you use for three virtual monitors? Also, did you have any issues reading text when you move just your eyes(peripheral vision)?
just to support... I am using 3monitors being streamed from an intel nuc with 1920x1200 each -no lag. no issues with readin if the monitors are not too far away
I know it's not the target use, but could you use this for gaming? Say like a virtual ultra wide monitor?
Certainly. Only issue would be latency.
@@jeradhilltech I've been stuck at the graveyard shift at work. So I haven't had a chance to test it myself. The only other similar solution I've tried is virtual desktop. Latency is nice and low. Hopefully it's a comparable experience
How do excel files look in vr?
It's a shame that it's $1500 because that seems like a real good option for anyone traveling and wanting to work
It is expensive but considering the cost of large monitors and desk real estate, it's not too bad.
Then get a quest 2 I'm not going to get a quest Pro I'm going to take that money and buy a PC
Exactly, get a quest 2 then!
They need to get the headset under $500
it's not worth it, i tried it.. the text are blurry af..
Interesting
Workrooms is significantly better than immersed. I’ve spent weeks in quest pro now for work. I’ve even taken zoom and google calls from VR, workrooms is less laggy, better visuals and is easier to meet with people.
In Immersed can you share your screen? Can you do markup on someone elses screen?
You can Share screen in colab rooms. You can not do markup on someone’s else’s screen,
Love it. I have a question ❓ about your watch. I saw the video about you using your other watch.lately I see the apple watch ⌚ again. Just curious. Maybe a video idea .. awesome video. Appreciate you.happy holidays
Jumping between watches, like the Apple Watch and the Garmin?
@@jeradhilltech yes.... I am on the autism spectrum so I do notice those things. So I was wondering maybe if your view has changed. I was wondering if having a iphone you just missed having a compatible product..
was it just the recording or is the model actually that laggy? If it is that seems horrid and would definitely need to be fixed before any real numbers of people try it out. Great video!
It’s recording. The frame rate when using the webcam is not that high. It’s something they are working on improving.
Is the resolution sufficient for text editing?
Yes. I’ve built websites, written articles, edited videos and much more. It’s pretty clear.
I tried immersed, its a great idea but i found the setup clunking and frustrating to position the extra virtual monitors. The tutorial kept restarting and crashed a couple of times.
I have uninstalled for the moment, hoping they sort out the kinks and maybe I will re-try it again in a few months when they get the basics sorted.
It has moments of frustration for sure but my experience has been really good.
jsut spend some time and you will recognize the pinning to the grid. once done, immersed will remember your setting
For me right now all of the desktop bridging concepts are just too janky. Especially needing to grab a controller when hand tracking fails. Having issues with hand tracking and controller laser pointer stability. There is one which kinda trancends all the others but I don't think there is any release or anything yet. Working in vr is a whole new system too. Still a bunch of learning curve
Yeah, the hand tracking failing at times can be quite annoying.
I'm using a really cool, crazy arm system because I work laying flat. I can't use Immersed because it assumes my eyes can face forward. Sad.
Are you still using immersed Jerad?
I recently stumbled into the community, and trying to start up a conversation with other TH-cam creators to make use of the space to share ideas regarding video creation. Discord seems to be the best way to organize, but I wonder if there are other ways to "find your tribe". We should make a video about that :^)
Yes I do. I have been in there often this week. Probably will jump on later today but have a lot of filming to do.
Is Immersed Free or Paid? What are the premium tier features? How is it monetized? Are those important features? In a 37.5 hour work week, how many hours did you spend working in vr
it’s free with in app purchases
I spent around four hours a day in Immersed. Other times more and most of the time less. It’s still a little distracting unless I’m head down working on a single task.
@@sippingthepeachsoda what are some of the iap? Thanks
@@DemoEvolvedGaming what does iap stand for?
@@MethosOhio in app purchases
Definitely sounds like you should be plugging this in and using pc link rather than wifi
For longer periods of work you have to in order to keep the headset charged, but being tethered by wire is not ideal and takes away from the experience in my opinion.
bro the quest pro is not sharp enough.. Quest pro is LCD not Oled.. yeah its not sharp enough for desktop extension.
also the interface is a bit laggy it is noticeable.
Blurry.