Yeah and he's a world war 2 soldier. This is probably one his first times battling beings that aren't basic humans or people from the same time period as him that have the same combat skills
@theenigma2861 Were aliens even much of a concept during WW2? Like were they even a thing that people ever thought much about at the time? Aliens are probably a fairly new concept to the guy
The point isn't 'Captain America needs to be the strongest'. It's suppose to be 'Captain America can lead the strongerst' or 'The strongest want to be lead BY Captain America'.
And the movie shows why. A lot of his points are complaining that there is character development in this movie. Sure the team doesn’t get along at first but that is to be expected with these vastly different personalities even without the mind stone in play stirring the pot. The only other points about his struggles in fight scenes ignores he is punching above his weight. Captain America is what I call high-street level hero in comic books meaning he tends to fight regular humans or people with some level of superpowers but not anyone on the level of heroes like Iron Man (whose rogues gallery includes an alien dragon) the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Thor, Hulk, or Captain Marvel. I noticed how the dude who made the original video omits the fight scene where Captain America defends the Helicarrier from Loki’s human terrorists as they are more on his playing field.
Cinema sins has done irreversible damage to the way we watch movies. Everything needs to be explained at every second all the time and nothing can be subtle.
cinema sins did nothing. he more points out plot holes and slight mistakes like “oh this object was in one scene but not in the next” not “captain america is a dumb character because i don’t understand his character”
Cinemasins didn’t do anything. They were a comedy satire and all their nitpicks weren’t meant to be taken seriously, even they would make fun of themselves for being nitpicks. But some people didn’t understand the joke and took everything they said seriously and decided “that’s what I want to be when I grow up”
@@zirotsero6951 ah yes as we all know a serum that makes you super should instantly make you planet buster and smarter than batman (yes Tony is technically smarter than batman remember he made a whole virtual world and in movies tony is absolutely smarter than snyderverse batman)
The funniest part about loki “whooping his ass” is that you can see cap is a WAY better fighter but he can’t damage loki iron man won because he didn’t actually show up and start throwing hands
Not only that, but by his OWN ADMISSION, he knows that Loki is playing them in order to enact his plan. Iron Man didn't one shot K.O Loki. He hit him once, and Loki feigned defeat.
Plus, on top of that, Cap literally just got up from a 7 decade rest of suspended animation and this is his first actual threat- who also happens to be above his weight-class power-wise. Chances are the dude was rusty.
In their first encounter he literally had the most perfect counter shot to the liver (which is the worst punch) but because Loki is a god it didn’t have any effect. Idk how people are this dumb.
"Why does cap lose so much in the movie?" Lets see what hes fighting shall we; Alien warriors while trying to defend hostages and a litteral god.... and only one does he lose
@antona.1327 Assuming you are talking about the moment when she closes the portal, why do you consider that as more important and climactic compared to Cap's scene? Wasn't Captain America's moment when the others all agreed in union, with no pushback, that he was the leader and they all followed his orders, including the police? I'd argue that what Cap did was just as important as what Black Widow did. And by your logic, can't it be argued that Iron Man has more of an important moment compared to Black Widow in the climax?
Fr like the dude was trapped in ice for 7 decades, and before that he was fighting regular human beings, cut to the 70 year time skip he's instantly roomed into fighting gods and aliens and a sentient robot, that's legit a major leap for a man like cap who's from the 40s mind you, of course he's gonna struggle with fighting the likes of those
If I didn't know any better, I would have thought this guy was intentionally missing the point just to hate on early MCU films. Like, bruh, I know modern MCU movies are inconsistent as f***, but you gotta do some serious mental gymnastics to genuinely believe Captain America of all characters was bad in The Avengers.
He was irrelevant. He didn't have good arc, good presence, good action scenes or even a decent costume. He was Cyclops from the Singer's X-Men movies. A boyscout who exists to make other characters look cooler by comparison.
I always took Cap's line about "They didn't say what we lost" as referencing how easily people forget about the human costs of war when they glorify victory. They tend to only focus on might and superior weaponry and forget that war includes a great deal of sacrifice from people who are usually forgotten if they aren't Presidents or military leaders. Also, he could have been referencing humans losing their humanity by using atomic weapons, which would tie in with his later mistrust of S.H.I.E.L.D using the tesseract to build weapons of mass destruction.
That's what makes him captain america. He isn't a glorified war machine. Like well "war machine" he was a real soldier and understood what was lost in those battlefields and during those bombs dropping.
@@ninjanibba4259 Says the many people on TH-cam that keep on criticizing it. Like bro, have you seen the huge amount of TH-camrs saying the MCU is dead? That makes me think it's getting way too much hate then it should.
@@NewUltraHero or that people are sick of it, ever think of that? It needs to go away so other things can have a chance It’s had it’s day and it’s not getting better, the peak was IW for everyone
Braedan Alberti is the type of guy to say that Gamora should’ve loved Thanos because he’s her dad. And also when Captain America stopped Thor and Iron Man from fighting, of course the shield would have no effect on them! Ones in armor and the other ones a god!
To be fair Captain America shield was able to damage War Machine’s armor for a bit in Civil War. Also, Captain America shield was able to damage Iron Man in EMH in the episode “Living Legend”.
@@Rock-Child I know EMH isn’t Canon, but it still happened. How do you feel that Captain America shield had an effect on Iron Man’s armor in that show ?
@comicbookking3446 It's a different continuity. The rules are whatever EMH's writers wanted them to be. Plus Tony wasn't actually fighting back against Rogers and they were just trying to calm him down. Thor got "hurt" by Cap too.
This guy sounds like he’s upset that Captain America isn’t the strongest being ever when that’s the appeal of Cap in The Avengers. He’s someone who leads the team he’s not the muscle that’s Thor and Hulk, he’s not the smartest that’s Tony, he may not even be the deadliest Widow and Hawkeye are probably better killers than him. But the point of cap is to ground the team and have something the others don’t and that’s leadership. Every other member is mainly a solo character even the shield characters but Cap has lead hundreds of men and has that experience. Him being weaker than others forces him to focus on the little guy and be creative. Having a weaker character is almost always more interesting than a overpowered character like Thor or Hulk because in conflict Cap has to be resourceful
Love this take! Weakness *is* Cap’s greatest strength if we think about it. What does that mean lmfao ight bare with me. It all circles back to him before the serum right? He became the peak of all humans, but strictly because he proved to be the best of all humans too. Morally, not necessarily physically. “The strong man who has known power all his life may lose respect for that power. But a weak man, knows the value of strength. And knows compassion.” He became Captain America, but Steve Rogers is the hero. The guy from Brooklyn, who wants to do what’s right and puts others over himself constantly. Steve’s certainly a hell of a leader but more importantly, a good man. And anyone can be Captain America with that kind of heart. I’ve always loved that clichè idc lol but what a great analysis, thank you
@@theletternyou and the other comment have the best take about cap he’s about the human spirit indomitable will the human stubbornness to win and to succeed W take from both of you
The appeal and purpose of Cap when he was first introduced is that he may be outmatched but he'll fight in the end til his last breath anyway. He is a symbol of freedom and never submitting to corruption/evil and fighting for what you think is right and pushing and pushing till you either win or die for your beliefs So yeah,cap struggling or clearly not being superman is literally in character. "I can do this all day"
@thelettern yeah same exact thing happens in DC with batman. Batman is nowhere near the strongest member of the justice league but they respect him greatly and he's usually the one strategizing for the team.
Captain America is characterized as a superhuman man who was chosen due to the selfnessness of his actions. Despite this strength, Steve is shown to be stuck in the past as demonstrated by his line, "I miss when the most extraordinary thing in this world was me." It's weird to suggest that not being the physically strongest makes Steve any less of an interesting character.
I was looking for this comment after Tony’s line about everything Steve has came from a bottle was referenced. Tony certainly thinks that but he is meant to be wrong and proven later on that it is his character that makes him who he is. Steve doesn’t really contest the point outside of asking what Tony is without his armor because he is humble. My personal favorite scenes of his first movie showed this with his “I don’t like bullies” line about why he wants to join the Army and the scene with Red Skull where he says “I’m just a kid from Brooklyn.”
I don't know why but Braeden's video seen that he nitpicking. Like he complained about Cap not being tech-savvy but earlier in the video he wanted Cap to struggle with the modern world like make up your mind.
The guy in the video that's being responded to means he wants Cap to act and behave like Sora from Kingdom Hearts since in that game the gaming technology used by Tron and the Organization 13 members are foreign to Sora, yet he instantly learns how to use it to save his friends lives.
Yeah and his costume complaint also really got me. Joss used a costume based more on the comics than any other in the MCU and sure it didn’t work but the fact he made so comic accurate shoots his point in the foot.
@@emberfist8347 , Avengers and the first Captain America film were my most favorite outfits of Captain America in the MCU because the rest of the outfits looks to dark, and the dark outfits contrasts with the hopeful optimism of Captain America hence why I never had an issue with those two outfits.
@@thegreatacolyt1277 You see, this same guy made a video about how Spider-Man has changed and he was bashing on MCU Spider-Man and Miles Morales and complained about how recent Spider-Man media isn't like the original comics, 90s show, and Raimi movie trilogy.
The tech-savvy stuff is stupid. Tell someone that doesn't know anything about the navy ships to fix something using military words and code phrases, and let's see how they would react. Because you don't need to go to the future to prove this, get someone from today, and you'll see. Not everyone is a genius.
Even though I know some tech stuff I don’t know much so when I heard tony say that I was like huh mostly because I work with computers and not whatever shield was using
Ah dang, I actually watched this guy's MCU villains movie. Ngl, I agree with a lot of his points there, but I also can see this was a bad view of Cap's character from this part of the MCU. I also have a bit of bias as Cap is one of my favorite Marvel heroes so yeah
I mean, his points for almost all of the villains was that they were underutilized and should've come back, but it made no sense bcs. it would make MCU to be the size of comics + animated shows combined and would mess with its flow
@@AaryanJain-lk3jtNah the MCU could be much much better even from the start, and now it's actually bad, they are literally pumping out slop because they know people will go see them anyways, and don't have to try.
@@AaryanJain-lk3jtPlus the muc is a connected verse like comics, that's the whole point the could've used that to their advantage but instead treated the villains like when superhero movies came out by themselves.
Another thing about the point on Caps fight against Loki in Avengers is that basically everything Loki does in that movie is either born out of arrogance, or manipulation. It's very possible that Loki intentionally surrendered to Tony in order to play into his ego, and prime him for the manipulations shown later in the film, and has nothing to do with how strong Iron Man is (but it probably did)
17:57 Tony isn't saying, "OH, I'm ordering you to give orders." He's saying "Whats the plan?" but since Tony has that swagger, he just says it a different way.
At 18:00 i might have actually injured myself with how hard I face palmed after hearing what he just said. I feel like we should all wear a helmet listening to this guy to protect against brain damage.
Yeah, cause facepalming is what smart, emotionally intelligent people do when they hear something they disagree with. It actually means you're very smart when you get mentally winded by a differing opinion 😂
@TheDankGiraffe So interpreting that line Iron man says "call it captain" as "Hey captain I order to order us what to do" isn't a bad opinion it's just a dumb statement with the context of the scene... Explain to all us dummies 🤣😂
@@TheSsjJoker I would say it depends in that case. Unlike Hulk, Superman pulls his punches unless he fighting Doomsday or someone else who can take a hit at full force. So Batman struggling more against someone like Bane versus Superman would be a fair point. Against Darkseid is another story.
I always thought the “I went under” line was the Vietnam War. Mentioning that we’ve won WW2 but shit didn’t go well in Vietnam. Meaning that Fury said we’ve made some mistakes.
I was thinking of the Cold War or the War on Terror instead. I am sure he would have gotten a broad overview of what happened after World War II and the Cold War would probably come as a shock. Or perhaps he means Hiroshima and Nagasaki events that are controversial to this day. I am sure he would certainly have strong opinions about the atomic bomb as it isn’t all too different from Red Skull’s plan for the US.
29:05 Slight correction, TaskMaster is also a super soldier. But you're correct about crossbones, he has no powers, but I wouldn't call him an average man. Some humans in Marvel are straight freaks, take for example KingPin, he's just built like that for no reason, no powers or anything. 💀
Oh and cap isn't peak human, he's peak human potential. For example if you take the super soldier serum, you don't become Usain Bolt, you become the fastest human that's theoretically possible👍🏻
I dont care what anyone says the first avengers is such a classic, i can rewatch that movie 100 times. I remember when it dropped it changed superhero movies forever. My only real complaint is captain americas suit. That shit is not drip at all but i get why it looks so goofy. Kinda fits that movie but im glad they moved on from it after. And was that guy watching the movie, bro is just yappin😭, his points were so debunkable you would think he really wasnt paying attention
The only bad part of Cap Avenger Suit is the helmet, it just looks awful and makes his head look really squashed in. Take the helmet off (as they did) and the suit is a pretty damn good one.
I believe cap 12:08 is being aggressive is because he’s actually annoyed cause he’s seen what happens when a man with too much power that can hide behind his armor
It should be noted that EFAP have also responded to this video a long time ago, which he actually did a response to covering some points more in depth than his original video. He has also admitted in that very video that his prior video was poorly executed compared to what he claims his standards are, also admitting when he failed to make clear any of his points. This comment is not a defence for this guy, but rather sharing knowledge of this topic about his take for Human Tor- Cap.
Yeah and all they did was talk shit about Braeden and called him stupid for hours. You can disagree with someone view over a "MOVIE" but attacking them is just pathetic
Honestly, I think Alberti is a good reviewer, he actually try to make his video as objective as possible by looking at the caracters from many sides. For this particular video he even apolgised that he did not give enough profs. Because he was unexpirienced.
@@lanalan4157 meat riding the mcu villains like this is some crazy work bro. Ain't no one calling mcu Maliketh, Hela, Whiplash their favourite villain because they suck. The only good villains the mcu ever had were Loki, Winter Soldier, Thanos and Killmonger. The rest are generic and suck. They butchered Ultron, Zemo was underutilized compared to his EMH version, Red Skull disappears a whole decade after his first and only appearance as a bad guy, Strucker is a laughing stock, Crossbones sucks both in the comics and the mcu so he's an exception, the main mcu Mordo literally does nothing beyond leaving strange at the end of the first movie, Hydra in general was only good in the Winter Soldier film, other than that - they sucked, the fake Mandarin was a fiasco, mcu taskmaster was one of the worst adaptations ever, the frost giants and surtur don't bring much, Yellowjacket sucks, as did Ghost, I could go on but you get my drift.
8:29 did buddy forget Loki can take hits from Thor? Like he’s a “god” with legit magical powers? Or are we just ignoring that because “I don’t wanna see a character I like lose”
For anyone watching this video .colin just did what EFAP did to Braeden Alberti on this same exact video. I suggest people go to Braden's channel and watch his response video to EFAP to get a clearer idea of what he was trying to say in his captain america video and the context behind it, because this video was when he was first starting video essays and is not his best work, also he admits himself he would've liked to rework and fix things in this old video to get his point across better. Honestly he knows what he's talking about and makes a lot of good points about writing and adaptations in his later videos so please dont just listen to .Colin and disreagard a competent critic without looking for yourself.
@@skylandersfan6954 Its not that I have an issue with critising someone's work but my point is that the video was Braden's very first video essay. He mentions this in his respond video to EFAP. Alot of people who start out youtube or whatever we persue to do; their first works are not going to be their best, and if they greatly improve over time its not fair to judge them by their older work. Colin does'nt preface or mention this key fact and with the way he presents his video, you as a viewer probobly would'nt know this or be expected to go fact check it, it just comes off as doing this in bad faith. Also Braden mentions in his response video that he still stands by his 'initial' premise of that video but he needed to reword and explain himself better. He mentions the reason for why the video turned out the way it did was that he was working a crappy job and again this being his first essay style video he made mistakes and also was venting frustrations he had at the time about marvel and other things. It doesnt justify something bad or poorly made but this context helps you look at it differently. Again today Braden is very competent as a critic and better at explaining things in his videos so it feels unfair to make a video like this as if that's how he does all his stuff currently. Personally I got nothing against .Colin but sometimes he goes after different viewpoints overly aggressively even if they have good points and portrays some arguments in a bad light.
The sad thing is that they actually filmed a scene of captain exploring the modern world but deleted it in the final cut, it played out before the meeting between cap and Fury in the boxing gym. The blonde girl he saved from the bomb later in the movie actually flirted with him in this deleted scene, it's a shame they cut it, it even had Stan Lee calling cap a moron.
I don't think Cap was sad after he got hit, I think he was realizing that this war isn't the same as WW2, there are space ships and aliens and the world might be doomed.
Crazy to see Braeden still getting ragged on over his first video essay that he admitted to being flawed that released about 2 years ago. You should probably watch "I've Been EFAPed" where he responds to the EFAP crew tearing into the video, and gives more insight into why the video was the way it was.
8:00 I find the fact that he brought this up funny, because I believe there was a joke touching on his costume earlier in the film. And the fact that he thinks captain america's thing was being big, and buff, and strong. He's the leader, he leads, that's what he's good at, and that's the role he, and only he, can fill.
13:08 caps not stupid, he is a man out of his time. Let’s see how well this fella functions if he were to be frozen for what was it 50+ years? Fish out of water feeling.
Watch his "I've been EFAPed" video. They address pretty much the same issues you do and he goes step by step talking about what he means and where he may have not been clear enough on his arguments.
I actually really like the "I do" moment in response to the flying monkeys reference. His character is completely lost in this new world aside from his place in the Avengers so when he recognizes a reference someone makes of course he gets excited and comments about it
I also liked that scene mostly for Fury setting it up. He is stuck with Tony spouting pop culture references he doesn’t get as they came from after 1945 so Fury throws him a bone by referencing the Wizard of Oz, a work from Steve’s time. I also liked how it showed Thor is not too different from Steve in terms of being still not understanding the world of Midgard even after his exile there in his movie.
I said it on another video, but this screams "I hate the MCU" over Cap. Because like, this dude legit will purposely misunderstand basic plot lines to hate the MCU
1:08 Bro wanted a live action adaptation of this cartoon which was based of the universe in which captain america says the 'what do you think A stands for? France!??!!?' thing. But for real I notice a pattern in these reviews they all want recreations of some old scenes, never something thats slightly different. Like, its the same thing just told differently
Well he has a point, Cap should be able to send normal dudes flying with his punches and kicks (like in Captain America and the Winter Soldier), but in this movie his punches didn't feel as powerful
That would have been really interesting if they had a scene where Cap is coming to terms that he is with Howard's son who happens to be a superhero. Imagine being in Cap's shoes where one of your best friends is one of the greatest minds in the world, Howard Stark, just chilling n drinking with him. Then BOOM you're in the future and you're best friends with his son whom you fight along side with. That's pretty freaky to think about.
9:27 I think this is a really stupid criticism saying it had no effect on them. Obviously it wouldn’t. It hit someone with literal god strength and a man in an advanced armored suit
Ok but it’s undeniable that Joss hated captain America. He has little to no effect on the story other than being just another member of the team, hell Hawkeye contributed more to the plot of Avengers 1 than Cap did. He’s always significantly lamer in the whedon movies opposed to any of the solo or Russo brothers movies. He has no cool hero moments, no cool fight scenes, and no character development. Honestly I could rant about how the first 2 Avengers movies are really just Iron Man movies with a bunch of side characters but that’s a comment for another day.
@@dragoniccrab they are basically just cinema sins but more nitpicky. They literally criticize clips of stuff frame by frame with sometimes no context for the rest of the film, video, or show.
Well, the whole problem that this guy has with Captain America not being skilled enough, is stupid. Because it was part of his character journey and proven to be the case later. They quite literally resolve this in the winter soldier because Captain America learned several different fighting styles so that he can keep up with the other avengers because he knew that he was severely outmatched in the avengers/new world or just out of touch with combat altogether since he’s been asleep for 70 years. It’s great because it gives him more character growth rather than just him being a perfect leader in this new world. He has to adapt, which makes it cool and interesting. Not to mention the fact that during World War II, no one in america really had any knowledge of different fighting styles, other than the ones that were used in military so maybe a bit of that is probably the case. Things like kung fu and karate weren’t revealed until like 30 years later. By special agents knowing all these different forms of combat is pretty jarring for Cap, which is why he learns more forms of fighting later.
@@vaggos2003 why are you so pressed about it?! And no, the parts that are about cap learning different fight styles have been stated by interviews and references in the movies. Please go get a life dude like wtf
I THINK what he's getting at with Cap adjusting to the modern world in Avengers is that he wants it to be a core emotional beat, rather than a running gag. Problem is, there's no way in heck you can balance that with everything else going on in the movie. Same with a lot of his criticisms. They'd be valid in a slower-paced film, but Avengers cannot be that AND a teammup of everything before it. It HAS to be fast paced.
Many of his criticisms of the MCU are him directly comparing the quality of the movies with existing comics. He said that because the comics did it good, the movies have to do it as good or even better. Problem is adaptations aren't as easy as just copy/pasting. For example, you can have all these colorful drawings in the comics, but you have to worry about oversaturation of colors, color theory in the movies, or else everything will look extremely bright and ugly. That's just one of the many differences that movies and comics have that make this sort of comparison not good.
braeden alberti is a pretty good reviewer, and one of the few who criticizes the MCU who actually reads comics. grabbing his oldest commentary video just to bash him for the sake of some views without having the least of care to actually watch the rest of his channel, and realize that he actually did respond to the issues this same video has, it's narrow-minded to say the least. i hope you realize that this video isn't necessary, and that alberti does not deserve this kind of shitty respond videos.
@@InfamousTerry4 Obviously not, but surely he could just make a quick look at his channel and see that it's one of his older videos and that he made a "sequel" (for a lack of a better term) to it.
@@InfamousTerry4 it isn't every single video. it is literally just one video that sums up this guy's problems with alberti's. and colin is the “responding guy”, he did an entire half hour long essay to bash on a 2 year old video. he _should_ do some research.
I do think cap feels nerfed in this movie comparatively to other movies. However, I think it would be excellent context for people to realize Steve went from being the strongest character (in 1940's) to being just a standard fighter. He's literally never had a struggle other than the obvious struggles of war. Nobody could stop him, so this movie needed him to have people kick his ass a bit to really push him to go "Oh shit, I might need to be better" because in later movies the man seriously grows and becomes one hell of a fighter. I get people saying that Steve is basically as strong as the plot needs, but dude SHOULD be fucking fast, strong, and brilliant beyond Hawkeye and Natasha. He just pales in comparison to a god damn norse god and a man with breath taking anger issues. I did think that Cap vs Loki was a bit overplayed too, and it would've been better if they played it as him going for defense of the civillians, but we can agree to disagree on that. Also, Tony, without his missiles, I argue is not stronger than Steve in a 1 v 1 straightforward fight. Steve shield should be able to break a gold titanium alloy.
Loki did not stop cause of Tony showing up he stopped cause he realized that his plan was working that the Avengers were coming together and he was gonna trap all of them.
@@petermj1098 I know that he did, but he still got tossed around more than I would expect by Loki. Steve isn't the strongest by a long shot, but considering how Loki fairs for the rest of the MCU I did expect a bit more from Steve. It felt kinda like the writers wanted us to be suspicious of Loki giving in suddenly to Tony, but in reality I think playing it more subtly would've worked better.
Power scaling is an issue inherent to the comics..... Avengers are ok but Xmen power scaling is ridiculous...its a huge problem comics will never overcome
@@kwayneboy1524 i don't...but comic nerds need to get off their high heels and accept power scaling is always a problem from the comics itself ,not just the movies...
It feels like he didn't watch the movie, though I do feel where he's coming from I wish there was more as well, the deleted scenes were pretty good but there wasn't enough time to add them 🙁
This is as bad as the take that mcu spider-man is bad Caps suit in this film is accurate but realistic how is it bad? I also watched this film recently 34:12 s.k. jumpscare
youre right, but if you compare that movie to anything after winter soldier you see cap was in fact pretty underrepresented in avengers. that guy unable to move loki with a punch was able to hold of a fcking helicopter with his bare hands in civil war. super soldiers in general became a lot stronger since the Russo Brothers joined . if you want to make up some in universe reasons for the weaker showing of caps skills, he's unfrozen for like a week and his mind is probably all over the place.
@@larrylasting2820 loki got thrown around by tva agents later on. marvel was just not consistent with caps strenght if you compare feats pre/post Wheedon
7:54 I think what happened here is that he misheard the line as “they told me that we won, they didn’t tell me THAT we lost” instead of “they told me that we won, they didn’t tell me WHAT we lost” which is understandable because I myself had to go back in the video to listen to the line 3 times before I realized what he actually said
Honestly, I understand how he felt in that video. I'm a gigantic Cap fan, and I think that for a character of his stature, having him appear incapable/weak is a bit of a bad look. Take DC for example. It is the other extreme for Batman. DC has it in their writers contracts that Batman can, under no circumstances seem weak or unable in practically any situation(within reason). This leads to many undeserved feats, most of which is people believing that he and cap are comparable from a physical perspective. Same goes for my other favorite character, Black Panther. I was massively upset with his portrayal and how inept he was shown to be in the MCU. Which is especially bad given that unlike Cap, he's supposed to be a polymath supergenius.
How Cap is portrayed in later movies, which is quite different from Whedon's version, ultimately proves Alberti's point 100%. And it's not even hard to understand why a diehard progressive-globalist political activist like Whedon would treat a nationalist, conservative poster boy like Cap with utter disrespect. In Avengers most of the times he's dorky and ineffectual, at points he's treated as comic relief in a way no other characters are. And before anyone says that well, that was just his characterisation, a fish out of water confused by being frozen for half a century - that's the entire point, that it was Whedon's choice to portray Cap as such, nobody forced him to do it and he could've done it a number of other ways, but Whedon CHOSE to disrespect Cap.
Oh my god! At 29:12 Cap is chicken winging the rifle because that was how US soldiers were trained to hold their rifles during WW2. I never noticed that!
Sure but basically nothing in the video was because of the comics, its very easy to critique something when you have a direct comparison and he clearly does that well but when it comes to providing criticism of something on its own merits as we can see, hes not the best
@@skylandersfan6954 True, but I still agree that Captain America showcased a lot of weakness in endgame against his past self, but obviously he would hold back as to not injure or kill himself. He also took a punch to the chest from Thanos near the end of Endgame, so overall Captain America wasn’t a weakling nearly at all in the mcu, if anything he was sort of over powered compared to iron man and other characters. Also FYI, (Disney Infinity was better than Skylanders, just a fact😁)
19:55 Cap is focused on the civilians, the aliens have comparable strength to Cap AND he's been fighting already for hours by that point sure hes a super human but he has an energy level like every living thing 😂
I really gotta question the logic of "this person is related to someone i know, so that guarantees im gonna like this person." Like even if Howard and Tony are related, and have similarities to each other they're still entirely different characters. Like Tony is a way bigger and more arrogant douchebag compared to Howard for example. Its like saying one dude named jacob whos a mechanic is automatically gonna act the same as another jacob who happens to be a mechanic
Also i wouldnt say demanding a sparring match as resorting ro violence, its definitely not him being his normal self because of the stone, but like hes no threatening to attack tony, he was asking tony to put his suit on and for a fair fight.
Yeah thats not hate Hate for cap is doing a wussie version of him saying he is a disgrace to ww2 veterans and doing a story where a guy who's whole thing is guns can somehow deefeat captain america (the boys comic and the punisher killing the marvel universe (which is as beleivable as ss killng the dc universe or a guy whos thing is swords guns and regeneration killing the marvel universe)
When cap says that he was frozen when WW2 was still going is true. Cap1 even shows the end of WW2 after he crashes the plane. By lost, he doesn't mean the allies both won and lost the war because of hydra, but he meant that a lot of the good of the era was lost over time, the values we held dear. A good example, my great grandfather used to wear a suit and tie (even casually) and most people don't do that nowadays unless they have.
I was thinking it could refer to other things like how World War II was the bloodiest war in recorded history, the controversial atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki which he might have moral objections to due to Red Skull basically trying the same thing or how we more or less immediately entered into the Cold War or were currently stuck in the War on Terror which has become increasingly controversial with things such as the USA PATRIOT Act where we lost freedom in the name of security.
In suit Tony would be…it took Bucky and cap together against Tony in civil war and that was an better suit as well, but obviously out, cap would only need to back hand Tony and he’s done for lol
@TheSsjJoker And I get that, but this was one of the super early suits. I don't know if he would have been able to overpower him before Cap ripped that bitch off. Ironman could MAYBE win using range, but CQC?? Nah, Cap is giving him the hands.
Media literacy is dead. The way I understood cap saying he d8dnt understand what we'd loose was a reference to the Manhattan project. We nuked two cities and killed so many people. That's what we lost our humanity
He already responded to that video go watch that one. He isn't a bad TH-camr. Also as a side note yes Spider-Man has changed. He recently gets shoved in with more multiversal crud and got cheated on for a second time to add insult to injury. I think you need to really open your mind to these criticisms a bit more and a bit better.
@@lanalan4157 did you just assume my gender? That's ironically sexist. Also what is so butthurt about me saying he already responded to this old video he did? He even admits he made mistakes in that video. You could at least try to act in good faith and see for yourself.
The added reason Cap might have been struggling against the aliens could be that they are aliens, they might have comparable strength to Cap.
I was thinking the same thing, those things follow thanos himself into battle
wild theory
Yeah and he's a world war 2 soldier. This is probably one his first times battling beings that aren't basic humans or people from the same time period as him that have the same combat skills
How dare you make a good point 😂
@theenigma2861 Were aliens even much of a concept during WW2? Like were they even a thing that people ever thought much about at the time? Aliens are probably a fairly new concept to the guy
The point isn't 'Captain America needs to be the strongest'. It's suppose to be 'Captain America can lead the strongerst' or 'The strongest want to be lead BY Captain America'.
And the movie shows why. A lot of his points are complaining that there is character development in this movie. Sure the team doesn’t get along at first but that is to be expected with these vastly different personalities even without the mind stone in play stirring the pot. The only other points about his struggles in fight scenes ignores he is punching above his weight. Captain America is what I call high-street level hero in comic books meaning he tends to fight regular humans or people with some level of superpowers but not anyone on the level of heroes like Iron Man (whose rogues gallery includes an alien dragon) the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Thor, Hulk, or Captain Marvel. I noticed how the dude who made the original video omits the fight scene where Captain America defends the Helicarrier from Loki’s human terrorists as they are more on his playing field.
Oh, so like batman
Typo but you’re dead on
Chris Evans put everything into being Captain America such a perfect casting.
@@markdaniel2191 fr
True, his performances and just the quality of his movies made this character for me. Top 10 favorite characters of all time now.
@@markdaniel2191 OK, but the video was about the writing.
@@vaggos2003 yeah I know the guy made no sense the whole vid.
@@markdaniel2191 Colin. or Breaden?
Cinema sins has done irreversible damage to the way we watch movies. Everything needs to be explained at every second all the time and nothing can be subtle.
@@CSorgini Oh, God, yet another "uuuuh, Cinemasins ruined Internet critisism" man-childish comment. Been a while since we saw that annoyance.
cinema sins did nothing. he more points out plot holes and slight mistakes like “oh this object was in one scene but not in the next” not “captain america is a dumb character because i don’t understand his character”
Cinemasins didn’t do anything. They were a comedy satire and all their nitpicks weren’t meant to be taken seriously, even they would make fun of themselves for being nitpicks. But some people didn’t understand the joke and took everything they said seriously and decided “that’s what I want to be when I grow up”
@@casualfanatic4217 You overestimate how much people took inspiration from Cinemasins.
cineama sins meat riders in here. :|
“Joss weadon hates captain America because the super soldier serum didn’t make him as strong as hulk and Thor and as smart as Ironman”
Yeah. Weadon clearly liked Captain America. The costume which is one point that gets agreed on was taken right out of the comics.
@@emberfist8347 Yeah then the Age of Ultron suit is way better so he literally improved that issue people had
@@zirotsero6951 ah yes as we all know a serum that makes you super should instantly make you planet buster and smarter than batman (yes Tony is technically smarter than batman remember he made a whole virtual world and in movies tony is absolutely smarter than snyderverse batman)
@@emberfist8347 he kinda deslike cap some secene did made him look stupid
@@wash99 You mean the scenes showing he is still adjusting to the 21st century?
The 40s man wasn't racist enough, 2/10
lmfaooo
@@KornyeEast real
bro have you seen that elevator scene the way he looks at that one guy 💀
@@HeII0_th3r3 it's cuz he's sweating and he can tell something is wrong
@@thegreatacolyt1277 pretty sure that was just a joke
The scenes of cap being “dumb” aren’t him being dumb, they’re him being naive to the modern era. There’s a difference.
I wouldnt call it naive, more simply, he doesnt know. Its not dumb its logical
@@juciymiddle3102 isn’t that what being naive is? Just not knowing?
@@turbkeysamdwich1880 i mean in a way, but in a different way
@@turbkeysamdwich1880naive is ignoring a fact moreso
@@KelbonoboNo? That's called willingly ignorant, naive means you can learn
The funniest part about loki “whooping his ass” is that you can see cap is a WAY better fighter but he can’t damage loki iron man won because he didn’t actually show up and start throwing hands
Not only that, but by his OWN ADMISSION, he knows that Loki is playing them in order to enact his plan.
Iron Man didn't one shot K.O Loki. He hit him once, and Loki feigned defeat.
@@imnothappyaboutthis3596 also iron man has a suit that has more power than tanks
Plus, on top of that, Cap literally just got up from a 7 decade rest of suspended animation and this is his first actual threat- who also happens to be above his weight-class power-wise. Chances are the dude was rusty.
In their first encounter he literally had the most perfect counter shot to the liver (which is the worst punch) but because Loki is a god it didn’t have any effect. Idk how people are this dumb.
"Why does cap lose so much in the movie?"
Lets see what hes fighting shall we; Alien warriors while trying to defend hostages and a litteral god.... and only one does he lose
Right... So why did Black Widow get to be important for the climax of the movie and not Cap?
@@antona.1327 she didnt have to defend and used better tactics, thats what shes good at
@antona.1327 Assuming you are talking about the moment when she closes the portal, why do you consider that as more important and climactic compared to Cap's scene? Wasn't Captain America's moment when the others all agreed in union, with no pushback, that he was the leader and they all followed his orders, including the police? I'd argue that what Cap did was just as important as what Black Widow did. And by your logic, can't it be argued that Iron Man has more of an important moment compared to Black Widow in the climax?
Fr like the dude was trapped in ice for 7 decades, and before that he was fighting regular human beings, cut to the 70 year time skip he's instantly roomed into fighting gods and aliens and a sentient robot, that's legit a major leap for a man like cap who's from the 40s mind you, of course he's gonna struggle with fighting the likes of those
If I didn't know any better, I would have thought this guy was intentionally missing the point just to hate on early MCU films. Like, bruh, I know modern MCU movies are inconsistent as f***, but you gotta do some serious mental gymnastics to genuinely believe Captain America of all characters was bad in The Avengers.
@@tonysonic456 fr
He was irrelevant. He didn't have good arc, good presence, good action scenes or even a decent costume. He was Cyclops from the Singer's X-Men movies. A boyscout who exists to make other characters look cooler by comparison.
@@antona.1327 “Amazing. Every word that you just said is wrong.”
@@antona.1327 no
@@antona.1327then you clearly didn't pay attention because you're completely wrong
I always took Cap's line about "They didn't say what we lost" as referencing how easily people forget about the human costs of war when they glorify victory. They tend to only focus on might and superior weaponry and forget that war includes a great deal of sacrifice from people who are usually forgotten if they aren't Presidents or military leaders. Also, he could have been referencing humans losing their humanity by using atomic weapons, which would tie in with his later mistrust of S.H.I.E.L.D using the tesseract to build weapons of mass destruction.
That's what makes him captain america. He isn't a glorified war machine. Like well "war machine" he was a real soldier and understood what was lost in those battlefields and during those bombs dropping.
This!!!
I swear, these type of people make me think the MCU is overhated
it is overrated.)
Overrated is more like it
@@ninjanibba4259 Says the many people on TH-cam that keep on criticizing it. Like bro, have you seen the huge amount of TH-camrs saying the MCU is dead? That makes me think it's getting way too much hate then it should.
@@NewUltraHero or that people are sick of it, ever think of that? It needs to go away so other things can have a chance
It’s had it’s day and it’s not getting better, the peak was IW for everyone
@@ninjanibba4259 their movies are still making billion dollar even now lol
Braedan Alberti is the type of guy to say that Gamora should’ve loved Thanos because he’s her dad. And also when Captain America stopped Thor and Iron Man from fighting, of course the shield would have no effect on them! Ones in armor and the other ones a god!
To be fair Captain America shield was able to damage War Machine’s armor for a bit in Civil War. Also, Captain America shield was able to damage Iron Man in EMH in the episode “Living Legend”.
@@comicbookking3446 One of those isn’t canon and the other one is a continuity error.
@@Rock-Child I know EMH isn’t Canon, but it still happened. How do you feel that Captain America shield had an effect on Iron Man’s armor in that show ?
@@comicbookking3446 It makes sense for vibranium to be able to damage Tony’s suit.
@comicbookking3446
It's a different continuity. The rules are whatever EMH's writers wanted them to be. Plus Tony wasn't actually fighting back against Rogers and they were just trying to calm him down. Thor got "hurt" by Cap too.
This guy sounds like he’s upset that Captain America isn’t the strongest being ever when that’s the appeal of Cap in The Avengers. He’s someone who leads the team he’s not the muscle that’s Thor and Hulk, he’s not the smartest that’s Tony, he may not even be the deadliest Widow and Hawkeye are probably better killers than him. But the point of cap is to ground the team and have something the others don’t and that’s leadership. Every other member is mainly a solo character even the shield characters but Cap has lead hundreds of men and has that experience. Him being weaker than others forces him to focus on the little guy and be creative. Having a weaker character is almost always more interesting than a overpowered character like Thor or Hulk because in conflict Cap has to be resourceful
Love this take! Weakness *is* Cap’s greatest strength if we think about it. What does that mean lmfao ight bare with me. It all circles back to him before the serum right? He became the peak of all humans, but strictly because he proved to be the best of all humans too. Morally, not necessarily physically.
“The strong man who has known power all his life may lose respect for that power. But a weak man, knows the value of strength. And knows compassion.”
He became Captain America, but Steve Rogers is the hero. The guy from Brooklyn, who wants to do what’s right and puts others over himself constantly. Steve’s certainly a hell of a leader but more importantly, a good man. And anyone can be Captain America with that kind of heart. I’ve always loved that clichè idc lol but what a great analysis, thank you
@@theletternyou and the other comment have the best take about cap he’s about the human spirit indomitable will the human stubbornness to win and to succeed W take from both of you
The appeal and purpose of Cap when he was first introduced is that he may be outmatched but he'll fight in the end til his last breath anyway. He is a symbol of freedom and never submitting to corruption/evil and fighting for what you think is right and pushing and pushing till you either win or die for your beliefs
So yeah,cap struggling or clearly not being superman is literally in character. "I can do this all day"
@thelettern yeah same exact thing happens in DC with batman. Batman is nowhere near the strongest member of the justice league but they respect him greatly and he's usually the one strategizing for the team.
@@habijjjNot so much, batman
He made countless OP suits, if he's prepared he can take care of every member of the JL
Captain America is characterized as a superhuman man who was chosen due to the selfnessness of his actions. Despite this strength, Steve is shown to be stuck in the past as demonstrated by his line, "I miss when the most extraordinary thing in this world was me." It's weird to suggest that not being the physically strongest makes Steve any less of an interesting character.
I was looking for this comment after Tony’s line about everything Steve has came from a bottle was referenced. Tony certainly thinks that but he is meant to be wrong and proven later on that it is his character that makes him who he is. Steve doesn’t really contest the point outside of asking what Tony is without his armor because he is humble. My personal favorite scenes of his first movie showed this with his “I don’t like bullies” line about why he wants to join the Army and the scene with Red Skull where he says “I’m just a kid from Brooklyn.”
The MCU doesn't hate Cap, this dude does holy yap.
I don't know why but Braeden's video seen that he nitpicking. Like he complained about Cap not being tech-savvy but earlier in the video he wanted Cap to struggle with the modern world like make up your mind.
The guy in the video that's being responded to means he wants Cap to act and behave like Sora from Kingdom Hearts since in that game the gaming technology used by Tron and the Organization 13 members are foreign to Sora, yet he instantly learns how to use it to save his friends lives.
Yeah and his costume complaint also really got me. Joss used a costume based more on the comics than any other in the MCU and sure it didn’t work but the fact he made so comic accurate shoots his point in the foot.
@@emberfist8347 , Avengers and the first Captain America film were my most favorite outfits of Captain America in the MCU because the rest of the outfits looks to dark, and the dark outfits contrasts with the hopeful optimism of Captain America hence why I never had an issue with those two outfits.
Cap is literally the GOAT alongside Tony
Oh great, it's the same guy who made that awful "Spider-Man has changed" video.
Huh?
@@thegreatacolyt1277 You see, this same guy made a video about how Spider-Man has changed and he was bashing on MCU Spider-Man and Miles Morales and complained about how recent Spider-Man media isn't like the original comics, 90s show, and Raimi movie trilogy.
@@NewOverlordis he worse about the Rami trilogy than Hi-Top films or just as bad
@user-be3oe6nt9r the raimi trilogy is good but it ain't original. Also mcu spider-man is good
@@Kage39614 Yes
I applaud you for being able to stomach his video long enough to make a response. His complete lack of media literacy is genuinely astounding.
@@kroganshepard6594 fr
Bro said media literacy and genuinely astounding
@@birdmanfancy9627 ha
@@birdmanfancy9627 what do people exactly mean when they say media literacy, like what exactly do people refer to?
Him saying captain could say he could say avengers assemble even tho he did say
The tech-savvy stuff is stupid. Tell someone that doesn't know anything about the navy ships to fix something using military words and code phrases, and let's see how they would react. Because you don't need to go to the future to prove this, get someone from today, and you'll see. Not everyone is a genius.
Even though I know some tech stuff I don’t know much so when I heard tony say that I was like huh mostly because I work with computers and not whatever shield was using
"Captain America looks like a fool." My dude, he was literally thawed out like a week ago.
Ah dang, I actually watched this guy's MCU villains movie. Ngl, I agree with a lot of his points there, but I also can see this was a bad view of Cap's character from this part of the MCU. I also have a bit of bias as Cap is one of my favorite Marvel heroes so yeah
I mean, his points for almost all of the villains was that they were underutilized and should've come back, but it made no sense bcs. it would make MCU to be the size of comics + animated shows combined and would mess with its flow
@@AaryanJain-lk3jtNah the MCU could be much much better even from the start, and now it's actually bad, they are literally pumping out slop because they know people will go see them anyways, and don't have to try.
@@AaryanJain-lk3jtPlus the muc is a connected verse like comics, that's the whole point the could've used that to their advantage but instead treated the villains like when superhero movies came out by themselves.
@@AaryanJain-lk3jtagreed
Yeah, I liked his stuff, somehow I missed this and his spider man review, which imo are really poor. It’s a shame.
Another thing about the point on Caps fight against Loki in Avengers is that basically everything Loki does in that movie is either born out of arrogance, or manipulation. It's very possible that Loki intentionally surrendered to Tony in order to play into his ego, and prime him for the manipulations shown later in the film, and has nothing to do with how strong Iron Man is (but it probably did)
17:57 Tony isn't saying, "OH, I'm ordering you to give orders." He's saying "Whats the plan?" but since Tony has that swagger, he just says it a different way.
At 18:00 i might have actually injured myself with how hard I face palmed after hearing what he just said. I feel like we should all wear a helmet listening to this guy to protect against brain damage.
I lost brain cells listening to that
Yeah, cause facepalming is what smart, emotionally intelligent people do when they hear something they disagree with. It actually means you're very smart when you get mentally winded by a differing opinion 😂
@TheDankGiraffe So interpreting that line Iron man says "call it captain" as "Hey captain I order to order us what to do" isn't a bad opinion it's just a dumb statement with the context of the scene... Explain to all us dummies 🤣😂
@@jamallayne8195 He wasn't really being serious when he said that. You'd know if you actually watched the original video, lol.
@@jamallayne8195 Also, I wasn't even talking about anything related to the video in my comment.
Bro complains that Hulk smashing makes it look easy and that Captain america should also be able to do it
Ah yes, if a ten foot tall angry jolly rancher can destroy the planet, then a methed out old guy on drugs can do it as well
It’s so funny cuz it’s like if I say it’s dumb if Batman struggles with something physically but Superman doing it makes it looks easy lol
"ThoR MakES iT lOoK EaSy!"
Yeah, no shit. The LITERAL GOD OF THUNDER makes fighting look easy GEE I WONDER WHY 🤔
@@TheSsjJoker I would say it depends in that case. Unlike Hulk, Superman pulls his punches unless he fighting Doomsday or someone else who can take a hit at full force. So Batman struggling more against someone like Bane versus Superman would be a fair point. Against Darkseid is another story.
@@emberfist8347 your right,…ig I could been more specific lol
I always thought the “I went under” line was the Vietnam War. Mentioning that we’ve won WW2 but shit didn’t go well in Vietnam. Meaning that Fury said we’ve made some mistakes.
I was thinking of the Cold War or the War on Terror instead. I am sure he would have gotten a broad overview of what happened after World War II and the Cold War would probably come as a shock. Or perhaps he means Hiroshima and Nagasaki events that are controversial to this day. I am sure he would certainly have strong opinions about the atomic bomb as it isn’t all too different from Red Skull’s plan for the US.
29:05 Slight correction, TaskMaster is also a super soldier. But you're correct about crossbones, he has no powers, but I wouldn't call him an average man. Some humans in Marvel are straight freaks, take for example KingPin, he's just built like that for no reason, no powers or anything. 💀
Oh and cap isn't peak human, he's peak human potential. For example if you take the super soldier serum, you don't become Usain Bolt, you become the fastest human that's theoretically possible👍🏻
@@CoolOkay_ you know Batman is actually the first peak human superhero character. Is he?
@@CoolOkay_cap is superhuman not peak human
@@faizanahmed8561 I wouldn't blame you if that's what you thought I was saying. Cap in the comics will fight dudes way stronger than himself.
I dont care what anyone says the first avengers is such a classic, i can rewatch that movie 100 times. I remember when it dropped it changed superhero movies forever. My only real complaint is captain americas suit. That shit is not drip at all but i get why it looks so goofy. Kinda fits that movie but im glad they moved on from it after. And was that guy watching the movie, bro is just yappin😭, his points were so debunkable you would think he really wasnt paying attention
The only bad part of Cap Avenger Suit is the helmet, it just looks awful and makes his head look really squashed in.
Take the helmet off (as they did) and the suit is a pretty damn good one.
I believe cap 12:08 is being aggressive is because he’s actually annoyed cause he’s seen what happens when a man with too much power that can hide behind his armor
It should be noted that EFAP have also responded to this video a long time ago, which he actually did a response to covering some points more in depth than his original video. He has also admitted in that very video that his prior video was poorly executed compared to what he claims his standards are, also admitting when he failed to make clear any of his points.
This comment is not a defence for this guy, but rather sharing knowledge of this topic about his take for Human Tor- Cap.
Yeah and all they did was talk shit about Braeden and called him stupid for hours.
You can disagree with someone view over a "MOVIE" but attacking them is just pathetic
Did he expect cap to start boxing gods???
Honestly, I think Alberti is a good reviewer, he actually try to make his video as objective as possible by looking at the caracters from many sides.
For this particular video he even apolgised that he did not give enough profs. Because he was unexpirienced.
All his videos are pretty much hating on the mcu.....lol......
@@lanalan4157 mostly mcu villains and rightfully so bc most mcu villains suck.
@@maskedcrusaderings no....he just sucks
@@lanalan4157 meat riding the mcu villains like this is some crazy work bro.
Ain't no one calling mcu Maliketh, Hela, Whiplash their favourite villain because they suck.
The only good villains the mcu ever had were Loki, Winter Soldier, Thanos and Killmonger. The rest are generic and suck. They butchered Ultron, Zemo was underutilized compared to his EMH version, Red Skull disappears a whole decade after his first and only appearance as a bad guy, Strucker is a laughing stock, Crossbones sucks both in the comics and the mcu so he's an exception, the main mcu Mordo literally does nothing beyond leaving strange at the end of the first movie, Hydra in general was only good in the Winter Soldier film, other than that - they sucked, the fake Mandarin was a fiasco, mcu taskmaster was one of the worst adaptations ever, the frost giants and surtur don't bring much, Yellowjacket sucks, as did Ghost, I could go on but you get my drift.
Where did he apologise?
8:29 did buddy forget Loki can take hits from Thor? Like he’s a “god” with legit magical powers? Or are we just ignoring that because “I don’t wanna see a character I like lose”
For anyone watching this video .colin just did what EFAP did to Braeden Alberti on this same exact video. I suggest people go to Braden's channel and watch his response video to EFAP to get a clearer idea of what he was trying to say in his captain america video and the context behind it, because this video was when he was first starting video essays and is not his best work, also he admits himself he would've liked to rework and fix things in this old video to get his point across better. Honestly he knows what he's talking about and makes a lot of good points about writing and adaptations in his later videos so please dont just listen to .Colin and disreagard a competent critic without looking for yourself.
If he himself admits the video was not the best, why do you have a problem with criticism against it
@@skylandersfan6954 Its not that I have an issue with critising someone's work but my point is that the video was Braden's very first video essay. He mentions this in his respond video to EFAP.
Alot of people who start out youtube or whatever we persue to do; their first works are not going to be their best, and if they greatly improve over time its not fair to judge them by their older work. Colin does'nt preface or mention this key fact and with the way he presents his video, you as a viewer probobly would'nt know this or be expected to go fact check it, it just comes off as doing this in bad faith.
Also Braden mentions in his response video that he still stands by his 'initial' premise of that video but he needed to reword and explain himself better. He mentions the reason for why the video turned out the way it did was that he was working a crappy job and again this being his first essay style video he made mistakes and also was venting frustrations he had at the time about marvel and other things. It doesnt justify something bad or poorly made but this context helps you look at it differently.
Again today Braden is very competent as a critic and better at explaining things in his videos so it feels unfair to make a video like this as if that's how he does all his stuff currently.
Personally I got nothing against .Colin but sometimes he goes after different viewpoints overly aggressively even if they have good points and portrays some arguments in a bad light.
The sad thing is that they actually filmed a scene of captain exploring the modern world but deleted it in the final cut, it played out before the meeting between cap and Fury in the boxing gym. The blonde girl he saved from the bomb later in the movie actually flirted with him in this deleted scene, it's a shame they cut it, it even had Stan Lee calling cap a moron.
I don't think Cap was sad after he got hit, I think he was realizing that this war isn't the same as WW2, there are space ships and aliens and the world might be doomed.
I don’t know what you’re smoking, but Braeden is 100% correct Captain America act like an absolute buffoon in the first avengers
21:32 I can’t accept the Hawkeye slander. Put respect on my boys name
Crazy to see Braeden still getting ragged on over his first video essay that he admitted to being flawed that released about 2 years ago. You should probably watch "I've Been EFAPed" where he responds to the EFAP crew tearing into the video, and gives more insight into why the video was the way it was.
Braedan admitted that this video was a rookie mistake
No, he didn’t say it was a mistake. He just said he could’ve clarified his points better.
@@blakelandry9313 He literally said that most content creators admit their first videos are fumbles
8:00 I find the fact that he brought this up funny, because I believe there was a joke touching on his costume earlier in the film. And the fact that he thinks captain america's thing was being big, and buff, and strong. He's the leader, he leads, that's what he's good at, and that's the role he, and only he, can fill.
13:08 caps not stupid, he is a man out of his time. Let’s see how well this fella functions if he were to be frozen for what was it 50+ years? Fish out of water feeling.
I looked at this comment the exact moment the video reached that point, like wth?
Watch his "I've been EFAPed" video. They address pretty much the same issues you do and he goes step by step talking about what he means and where he may have not been clear enough on his arguments.
That's what I'm saying! This guy's video response is redundant. 😑
This guy must have been PISSED watching Winter Soldier with all the times Bucky beats the dogshit out of Steve
I actually really like the "I do" moment in response to the flying monkeys reference. His character is completely lost in this new world aside from his place in the Avengers so when he recognizes a reference someone makes of course he gets excited and comments about it
I also liked that scene mostly for Fury setting it up. He is stuck with Tony spouting pop culture references he doesn’t get as they came from after 1945 so Fury throws him a bone by referencing the Wizard of Oz, a work from Steve’s time. I also liked how it showed Thor is not too different from Steve in terms of being still not understanding the world of Midgard even after his exile there in his movie.
I said it on another video, but this screams "I hate the MCU" over Cap.
Because like, this dude legit will purposely misunderstand basic plot lines to hate the MCU
Am i the only one who liked the first Captain America custom.
1:08 Bro wanted a live action adaptation of this cartoon which was based of the universe in which captain america says the 'what do you think A stands for? France!??!!?' thing.
But for real I notice a pattern in these reviews they all want recreations of some old scenes, never something thats slightly different. Like, its the same thing just told differently
in short
why is Cap written like a normal human who was frozen for 70~ yrs
Well he has a point, Cap should be able to send normal dudes flying with his punches and kicks (like in Captain America and the Winter Soldier), but in this movie his punches didn't feel as powerful
That would have been really interesting if they had a scene where Cap is coming to terms that he is with Howard's son who happens to be a superhero. Imagine being in Cap's shoes where one of your best friends is one of the greatest minds in the world, Howard Stark, just chilling n drinking with him. Then BOOM you're in the future and you're best friends with his son whom you fight along side with. That's pretty freaky to think about.
9:27 I think this is a really stupid criticism saying it had no effect on them. Obviously it wouldn’t. It hit someone with literal god strength and a man in an advanced armored suit
Plus he’s not trying to hurt them, he’s just trying to get them to stop.
Ok but it’s undeniable that Joss hated captain America. He has little to no effect on the story other than being just another member of the team, hell Hawkeye contributed more to the plot of Avengers 1 than Cap did. He’s always significantly lamer in the whedon movies opposed to any of the solo or Russo brothers movies. He has no cool hero moments, no cool fight scenes, and no character development. Honestly I could rant about how the first 2 Avengers movies are really just Iron Man movies with a bunch of side characters but that’s a comment for another day.
I didn't think anyone could watch a movie worse than CinemaSins but here we are
Have you seen EFAP? They are just the next stage of cinemasins
@@Thed538dhsk I have not
@@dragoniccrab they are basically just cinema sins but more nitpicky. They literally criticize clips of stuff frame by frame with sometimes no context for the rest of the film, video, or show.
Well, the whole problem that this guy has with Captain America not being skilled enough, is stupid. Because it was part of his character journey and proven to be the case later. They quite literally resolve this in the winter soldier because Captain America learned several different fighting styles so that he can keep up with the other avengers because he knew that he was severely outmatched in the avengers/new world or just out of touch with combat altogether since he’s been asleep for 70 years. It’s great because it gives him more character growth rather than just him being a perfect leader in this new world. He has to adapt, which makes it cool and interesting. Not to mention the fact that during World War II, no one in america really had any knowledge of different fighting styles, other than the ones that were used in military so maybe a bit of that is probably the case. Things like kung fu and karate weren’t revealed until like 30 years later. By special agents knowing all these different forms of combat is pretty jarring for Cap, which is why he learns more forms of fighting later.
There was a lot of headcanoning in this comment of yours.
@@vaggos2003 there’s not
@@vaggos2003 only the parts about when fighting styles became as advanced as they did
@@Okarun-VVV A.k.a. the majority of your comment.
@@vaggos2003 why are you so pressed about it?! And no, the parts that are about cap learning different fight styles have been stated by interviews and references in the movies. Please go get a life dude like wtf
I THINK what he's getting at with Cap adjusting to the modern world in Avengers is that he wants it to be a core emotional beat, rather than a running gag.
Problem is, there's no way in heck you can balance that with everything else going on in the movie. Same with a lot of his criticisms. They'd be valid in a slower-paced film, but Avengers cannot be that AND a teammup of everything before it. It HAS to be fast paced.
Yeah his criticism would be more fair if this was a miniseries.
Many of his criticisms of the MCU are him directly comparing the quality of the movies with existing comics. He said that because the comics did it good, the movies have to do it as good or even better. Problem is adaptations aren't as easy as just copy/pasting. For example, you can have all these colorful drawings in the comics, but you have to worry about oversaturation of colors, color theory in the movies, or else everything will look extremely bright and ugly. That's just one of the many differences that movies and comics have that make this sort of comparison not good.
Captain America was the best character in the MCU
All the best films pretty much centre around him
Best solo film
Best fight scenes
Evans killed it!
Wow some guy!!! That’s Braeden Alberti peak TH-camr btw!! He’s has stated that he should have gone into more details on his takes!
This comment section is exactly why marvel is how it is you not only settle but defend this shit writing
22:05 Couldn’t you say that Loki was the general for the Aliens?
Not really because they were on loan from Thanos.
braeden alberti is a pretty good reviewer, and one of the few who criticizes the MCU who actually reads comics.
grabbing his oldest commentary video just to bash him for the sake of some views without having the least of care to actually watch the rest of his channel, and realize that he actually did respond to the issues this same video has, it's narrow-minded to say the least.
i hope you realize that this video isn't necessary, and that alberti does not deserve this kind of shitty respond videos.
Thank you.
No one is gonna watch someone’s every single video to critique one video that’s genuinely the stupidest idea ever
@@InfamousTerry4 Obviously not, but surely he could just make a quick look at his channel and see that it's one of his older videos and that he made a "sequel" (for a lack of a better term) to it.
@@InfamousTerry4 it isn't every single video. it is literally just one video that sums up this guy's problems with alberti's. and colin is the “responding guy”, he did an entire half hour long essay to bash on a 2 year old video. he _should_ do some research.
@@ema4020 except he shouldn’t have to, and he shouldn’t need to. Bro should take the vid down if there isn’t anyone allowed to criticize it.
Videos like this makes me glad that not everyone can write and direct movies. This is why "hire fans" would work only at max 50% of the time.
I do think cap feels nerfed in this movie comparatively to other movies. However, I think it would be excellent context for people to realize Steve went from being the strongest character (in 1940's) to being just a standard fighter. He's literally never had a struggle other than the obvious struggles of war. Nobody could stop him, so this movie needed him to have people kick his ass a bit to really push him to go "Oh shit, I might need to be better" because in later movies the man seriously grows and becomes one hell of a fighter.
I get people saying that Steve is basically as strong as the plot needs, but dude SHOULD be fucking fast, strong, and brilliant beyond Hawkeye and Natasha. He just pales in comparison to a god damn norse god and a man with breath taking anger issues. I did think that Cap vs Loki was a bit overplayed too, and it would've been better if they played it as him going for defense of the civillians, but we can agree to disagree on that. Also, Tony, without his missiles, I argue is not stronger than Steve in a 1 v 1 straightforward fight. Steve shield should be able to break a gold titanium alloy.
Loki did not stop cause of Tony showing up he stopped cause he realized that his plan was working that the Avengers were coming together and he was gonna trap all of them.
@@petermj1098 I know that he did, but he still got tossed around more than I would expect by Loki. Steve isn't the strongest by a long shot, but considering how Loki fairs for the rest of the MCU I did expect a bit more from Steve. It felt kinda like the writers wanted us to be suspicious of Loki giving in suddenly to Tony, but in reality I think playing it more subtly would've worked better.
Cap doesnt have intelligence like stark or banner, he has combat inteligene, strategy.
This is why Colin is needed 😭🙏
I do think the power scaling in the mcu has kinda gone to crap, but alot of that is because everyone wants their favorite avenger to be the strongest
Power scaling is an issue inherent to the comics..... Avengers are ok but Xmen power scaling is ridiculous...its a huge problem comics will never overcome
@@lanalan4157who cares about power scalling?
@@kwayneboy1524 i don't...but comic nerds need to get off their high heels and accept power scaling is always a problem from the comics itself ,not just the movies...
@@lanalan4157 does it matter?
@kwayneboy1524 in a story prospective, yes, powerscaling does matter you like it or not
It feels like he didn't watch the movie, though I do feel where he's coming from I wish there was more as well, the deleted scenes were pretty good but there wasn't enough time to add them 🙁
Ah, yes. "Call it, Captain." is an order. Reminds me of a time I ordered my teacher around when asking for advice on homework.
This is as bad as the take that mcu spider-man is bad
Caps suit in this film is accurate but realistic how is it bad? I also watched this film recently 34:12 s.k. jumpscare
MCU Spider-Man is bad tho at least in his solo movies
Nwh?@@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. Nah, he's good. The only thing I dislike about him is that he isn't quippy
@@C0LIN.I honestly don’t see how.
@@Demolisher-40-556 hes more jokey than tobey
This is his first video in this style and it's bad and even Braeden Alberti himself admits it.
youre right, but if you compare that movie to anything after winter soldier you see cap was in fact pretty underrepresented in avengers.
that guy unable to move loki with a punch was able to hold of a fcking helicopter with his bare hands in civil war. super soldiers in general became a lot stronger since the Russo Brothers joined .
if you want to make up some in universe reasons for the weaker showing of caps skills, he's unfrozen for like a week and his mind is probably all over the place.
why are you comparing a god to a helicopter 😂
@@larrylasting2820 loki got thrown around by tva agents later on.
marvel was just not consistent with caps strenght if you compare feats pre/post Wheedon
Maybe listen to the actual creator of video saying he made some mistakes and say it wasn’t his best work he put out
7:54 I think what happened here is that he misheard the line as “they told me that we won, they didn’t tell me THAT we lost” instead of “they told me that we won, they didn’t tell me WHAT we lost” which is understandable because I myself had to go back in the video to listen to the line 3 times before I realized what he actually said
Honestly, I understand how he felt in that video. I'm a gigantic Cap fan, and I think that for a character of his stature, having him appear incapable/weak is a bit of a bad look. Take DC for example. It is the other extreme for Batman. DC has it in their writers contracts that Batman can, under no circumstances seem weak or unable in practically any situation(within reason). This leads to many undeserved feats, most of which is people believing that he and cap are comparable from a physical perspective. Same goes for my other favorite character, Black Panther. I was massively upset with his portrayal and how inept he was shown to be in the MCU. Which is especially bad given that unlike Cap, he's supposed to be a polymath supergenius.
This isnt the comics numb nuts
How Cap is portrayed in later movies, which is quite different from Whedon's version, ultimately proves Alberti's point 100%. And it's not even hard to understand why a diehard progressive-globalist political activist like Whedon would treat a nationalist, conservative poster boy like Cap with utter disrespect. In Avengers most of the times he's dorky and ineffectual, at points he's treated as comic relief in a way no other characters are. And before anyone says that well, that was just his characterisation, a fish out of water confused by being frozen for half a century - that's the entire point, that it was Whedon's choice to portray Cap as such, nobody forced him to do it and he could've done it a number of other ways, but Whedon CHOSE to disrespect Cap.
I remember him saying this is one of his older not as good videos
Oh my god! At 29:12 Cap is chicken winging the rifle because that was how US soldiers were trained to hold their rifles during WW2. I never noticed that!
Isn't this the very 1st video that Brandon published to his channel?
I still don't understand why they decided to give cap the most stupid looking costume in the movie it just degraded all the scenes he was in for me
Braeden has some of the best critiques of the MCU due to their deviations from the comics, so yeah this video by Colin did not cook.
Sure but basically nothing in the video was because of the comics, its very easy to critique something when you have a direct comparison and he clearly does that well but when it comes to providing criticism of something on its own merits as we can see, hes not the best
@@skylandersfan6954 True, but I still agree that Captain America showcased a lot of weakness in endgame against his past self, but obviously he would hold back as to not injure or kill himself. He also took a punch to the chest from Thanos near the end of Endgame, so overall Captain America wasn’t a weakling nearly at all in the mcu, if anything he was sort of over powered compared to iron man and other characters. Also FYI, (Disney Infinity was better than Skylanders, just a fact😁)
19:55 Cap is focused on the civilians, the aliens have comparable strength to Cap AND he's been fighting already for hours by that point sure hes a super human but he has an energy level like every living thing 😂
Unrelated but I just wanna say I 100% agree with your Loki video. Same with this video cause this guy could not be dumber if he tried.
I really gotta question the logic of "this person is related to someone i know, so that guarantees im gonna like this person."
Like even if Howard and Tony are related, and have similarities to each other they're still entirely different characters.
Like Tony is a way bigger and more arrogant douchebag compared to Howard for example.
Its like saying one dude named jacob whos a mechanic is automatically gonna act the same as another jacob who happens to be a mechanic
happy halloween
It's September G
Happy holidays
*YOU HAD THE ONE JOB MIKE*
28:27 "what he lacks in power he makes up in leadership and endurance"
*complains about him not being strong and unbeatable the entire video*🤦♂️
Can’t wait when u look at his mcu villains video or videos
I know right
What does he say in those?
@@matthodgkinson2003 He says most of them are bad, and the ones that aren't are ruined later.
his mcu villains video is great tho. most mcu villains are bland and forgettable. lol.
Also i wouldnt say demanding a sparring match as resorting ro violence, its definitely not him being his normal self because of the stone, but like hes no threatening to attack tony, he was asking tony to put his suit on and for a fair fight.
make a video about oiling up
Yeah thats not hate
Hate for cap is doing a wussie version of him saying he is a disgrace to ww2 veterans and doing a story where a guy who's whole thing is guns can somehow deefeat captain america (the boys comic and the punisher killing the marvel universe (which is as beleivable as ss killng the dc universe or a guy whos thing is swords guns and regeneration killing the marvel universe)
Dammit one of my favorite comic TH-camrs beefing with another one of my favorites
Yeah, the duality "dammit, with whom do I side with".
It's not really beefing it's just a response
@@Spider-Ranger196 True, tho it's a bit funny describing it that way.
@@vaggos2003 lol yea..
Tony taking a second to think about a way to explain to Steve how to shut the rotor down was character development that went right over his head
What do you think of Avengers 1?
Masterpiece
I think it's fun. I forgot most of it, but it was definitely good.
One of my favorites in the MCU
@@WaterEater1997 it's great
9/10
When cap says that he was frozen when WW2 was still going is true. Cap1 even shows the end of WW2 after he crashes the plane. By lost, he doesn't mean the allies both won and lost the war because of hydra, but he meant that a lot of the good of the era was lost over time, the values we held dear. A good example, my great grandfather used to wear a suit and tie (even casually) and most people don't do that nowadays unless they have.
I was thinking it could refer to other things like how World War II was the bloodiest war in recorded history, the controversial atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki which he might have moral objections to due to Red Skull basically trying the same thing or how we more or less immediately entered into the Cold War or were currently stuck in the War on Terror which has become increasingly controversial with things such as the USA PATRIOT Act where we lost freedom in the name of security.
WOAH... Hold on.. I just want to point out something.... Ironman is NOT stronger than Captain America... Let's get that straight rn 😂
He objectively is
In suit Tony would be…it took Bucky and cap together against Tony in civil war and that was an better suit as well, but obviously out, cap would only need to back hand Tony and he’s done for lol
@@C0LIN. Movie Universe hun.
@TheSsjJoker And I get that, but this was one of the super early suits. I don't know if he would have been able to overpower him before Cap ripped that bitch off. Ironman could MAYBE win using range, but CQC?? Nah, Cap is giving him the hands.
@@AllyJ1141 Early Iron Man could contend with Thor and Loki, Cap couldn’t do anything. He could carpet bomb cap…
Media literacy is dead. The way I understood cap saying he d8dnt understand what we'd loose was a reference to the Manhattan project. We nuked two cities and killed so many people. That's what we lost our humanity
He already responded to that video go watch that one. He isn't a bad TH-camr. Also as a side note yes Spider-Man has changed. He recently gets shoved in with more multiversal crud and got cheated on for a second time to add insult to injury. I think you need to really open your mind to these criticisms a bit more and a bit better.
Butthurt Braenden fangirl spotted
@@lanalan4157 did you just assume my gender? That's ironically sexist. Also what is so butthurt about me saying he already responded to this old video he did? He even admits he made mistakes in that video. You could at least try to act in good faith and see for yourself.
This video should be marked as made for kids.
dude lol i subbed to u both
Pick a side lmao
@@TheSsjJoker oh naw colin is right on this
@@Defeationist 100%
@@TheSsjJokerit’s not civil war little guy😂
@@GaelGamaa I know 😂😅