Thank you for addressing this, recently there’s been that group of people when a new sequel releases they just call it “dlc”. Like they had just completely forgotten the concept of what a sequel is actually supposed to be.
Most of them are people that have PS4. They're mad asf that they can't play. I bet the dude in the video is the same way. Listen to it again it sounds like he's salty that he can't play it 😂
@@johnapplegate3134 sadly coming from post release it's not turn based and is instead a very safe sequel they just didn't take a big enough leap. They should have made the game a dating sim imo really change the fundamental core surprise everyone. Definitely going to win the award for worst game of the year.
It’s so sad to see that a group like insomniac games can work on such a big game and then have someone ruin it like “the graphics aren’t even that much better”. Thank you for addressing this
@@JeloOWbut let's be honest we'd like to see spiderman in a little bit of different surrounding. I mean let's be honest gta was always amazing because the cities in the games were different for most part. It wouldn't make sense story wise for spider man to be in a different city but it'll be fun if they try
What baffles me is that the guy literally said he wasn't buying the game... So why was he complaining about the mechanics of an outdated gameplay reveal?? Absolutely mind-boggling. Great video, Colin. Looking forward to seeing more from ya!
Here is how I feel about the argument about the web swinging animations. Peter has been Spider-Man for at least 9-10 years why the hell would he change the way he swings because someone swings with more swagger than him now. He has the swinging down well and it works for him why change it. If people are upset because miles has better animations than peter than free roam as miles. That’s the whole point of having the vast difference.
That is such a stubborn mindset, just feels like "oh I already done so much, don't expect me to do more or to improve myself". There's always room for self-improvement. We're talking about Peter, he's always updating himself, he made so many suits over the years because of that. He literally has web wings now, something even the comics dropped, so why wouldn't he learn new tricks, specially now that he's working side-by-side with Miles? You can make the argument that he doesn't need to, but to say he wouldn't and deny players that experience is just lazy and lack of creativity.
Makes sense, it's like how players were mad at how kratos was throwing his axe the exact same way in gow 2018. If spiderman was only say a year or 2 in to his career, and the next game was set 2 years from now. We would see significant improvement. But he's been spiderman for a solid while so why would he change it up too much. He might make some slight differences cause all the new tech and suits and whatever. 'But if it ain't broke don't fix it' is a decent mindset. He's not gonna do something completely different.
@@radrno7 From the story standpoint do you think peter cares about how flashy miles is? It would make sense if miles swinging had an advantage or if it was more efficient ..but it's not. Nothing wrong with being stylish but I don't think its that a big of deal as people make it out to be. Especially when get to experience both miles and peter. Peter now has the symbiote so I do think it'll factor into a somewhat of a new experience.
@@lovesonrana102Peter taught Miles to begin with...then Miles made his own style of swinging. And now Peter should be changing because Miles did? No. Remember when Bruce Lee said "I fear not the one who has practiced 1000 kicks but the one who has practiced 1 kick 1000 times" . Or something like that. So at the end Peter doesn't need to really change, his improvement leaps will be way smaller because he's close to having maximised his swinging efficiency. And something people don't see is that the original Spiderman is not that petty, he doesn't care who looks more stylish swinging like a dumb*ss in the middle of the city. If he'd want recognition or acknowledgement, he'd not have worn that mask in the first place. So in the end, I agree with you.
I swear. People will just find a way to complain about *ANYTHING.* Nothing is ever good enough. This generation of gamers are so ungrateful. If they're so ungrateful enough to not expect things the way they are then they don't deserve a new game. Plain and simple.
The gaming industry has a ton of issues. But I feel like the gaming community has gotten so caught up in all the bs that they started becoming more cynical and irrational.
Welcome to the era of modern critics. All they do is complian and hate for the sake of it. Like I had someone complian about miles or Peter not being dead or that the game takes place in the same new York. THey just complian about nothing for the sake of hating since they don't like the game or dev or characters they will call the whole game trash even if some thing is perfect they will always ALWAYS be that one person who says that this is shit or mid
Personally, I kind of like it if they keep some of Peter's old animations because that's how he swings. Now, can they improve the mechanics and stuff, yes, but he's been Spider-man for 8 years in SM-PS4, so in my mind, it makes sense that he still swings the same because that's how he's always done it. That's why I love Miles' transition from his game to this one where he seems more confident in his swinging. So, they can add new stuff, but not I would keep a good portion of his old animations personally.
Because context in a story doesn’t matter to some people. They want it to be completely new, and anything that’s reused is lazy to them. I’ve seen a lot of people who are very angry that Spider-Man 2 shares similarities with the previous games. Legit I’ve seen people say a sequel should have nothing in common with previous titles.
@@Longest_Commnenteven tho the sequels are supposed to take what its predecessors had and improve upon it, and in the new gameplay video Peter was shown doing tricks, plus why change or fix a combat system that's already worked for the first 2 games?
Bro the guy saying that it's the same game, he must want a total redo and tire out the poor developers who are trying to make this game as best as it can
“The web swinging is boring” says the guy who’s swinging as slow as possible and getting stuck in a tree. Yeah it’s gonna be the same thing if you only use r2 that’s not the only traversal controls
Reminds me of the recent FF16 thing, where someone was complaining that that the game was too easy by beating a boss with only hitting a single button. Despite the fact that they were only in the starting area and literally using optional gear, that was an accessibility control, that was designed to make the game easier.
@@Kulascus You guys are worryingly clueless. Momentum makes barely any sense in this game. The swinging is capped at its speed and whether you swing from the empire state or smaller building you get the same amount of momentum. There is no thought to the swinging aside from spamming the web launches to give you extra boosts. The game automates the swinging to help you LOOK good so newbies and little children can have a fun time playing it. You can't FAIL. Imagine bragging about a skill ceiling in a game that ENSURES you don't fail lmao.
As someone who never cares to play through extra content in games like side quests I can 100% say that spiderman's world is awesome. Literally the only game that I want to 100% and then replay it again and again
I think a lot of people do seem to miss that the Webswinging in Insomniac's Spider-Man is basically like Skateboarding in the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games Designed to be easy to use, so someone who's not good at games can still play, but it's hard to master and it's learning how to master the traversal that keeps it fun.
There's a term for that: Low skill floor, high skill ceiling. And that's what you want in a game for mechanics! The skill floor should be low so then it's easy to pick up, but then the skill ceiling can be much higher, which forces you to experiment with combinations, different moves sets, or mixing up different styles! That's why Spider-Man PS4 and Miles Morales have such high replay value.
That's absolute bull. The web swinging was built to get you from point a to point b with nice animations. There's nothing to master only to get familiar and used to it since there's no fail state . And in tony hawk you have to score and complete challenges and earn xp for traversal, but no in spiderman, a better example of easy to use hard to master is arkham combat. Is as deep as you want and has a combo meter. I think people don't get why people criticize the system
@notlNSIGHT theres no different movesets or styles in spiderman its adjust automatically and approximately. You meke it sound like you control everything and chose every move that's not the case
@@davecarterNV5 Except it is. Web zip, point launch, tricks, zipping to a ledge, and just swinging in general. You control ALL of that. There's a high skill ceiling and a low skill floor.
We live in a day of age where people complain about anything and everything… 1. They showed us a build that wasn’t even complete yet. 2. No animations were shown because that wasn’t the purpose of the demo. They were showing new features like the symbiotie suit, wing suit, combat, bio electric powers, switch in characters etc. 3. The devs said the wingsuit compliments the web swinging. Not the other way around. They know it’s the core of the game. 4. There will be more animations it’s confirmed… 5. Revamping a sequel is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Why would miles and Pete change how they swing? Why would they scrap something that already works for everyone? Make it make sense. Like Batman Arkaham they kept building on the foundation Arkham Asylum. 6. For the idiots saying this is a PS4 game are just hella mad they don’t have the PS5. The lighting is way different and the PS4 cannot handle instant switching in a huge ass map with the graphics and speed that the game has. It would probably blow up. 7. The point is to stop with the bad faith arguments when you haven’t seen shit yet lmao.
I still find it crazy how people really thought that a 10 minute demo spoiled a whole (potentially) 10 hour story, like the demo isn’t even the full mission there’s definitely cutscenes and parts of the mission that got cut out
@@turbkeysamdwich1880that’s weird cuz it took me around 9 hours to beat Spider-Man remastered..on my first playthrough in which I played on spectacular difficulty aswell
For real, like everyone is complaining about "crunch" and other crap when they revolutionized the gaming industry with Spider-Man ps4 and still making 🐐 tier games.
If there's one thing I have learned you cannot make everyone happy because people who hate on Marvel Spider-Man 2 PS5 is nothing but a loser that sets their expectations way too high And doing so automatically setting themselves up for disappointment 🤦♂️
What's even morre funny is that we are in the golden age of spider-man games, pass the times where almost every spider-man games by the likes of beenox and treyarch weren't rush out the gates because of activison. And yet people still can't appreciate what Insomniac has been doing for the character since 2018. Its like they want to go back to those dark days where you don't know if a spider-man game would be good.
I'm just in awe of a man stating the swinging is boring and repetitive in the game while playing footage clearly showing he literally never learned how to swing-by the time he started a new game+ playthrough. That's mind blowing to me.
I’m really excited for Spider-Man 2. I don’t care if it’s mostly the same. Spider-Man and Miles Morales were incredible games, and I want more of that.
Same with god of war. Both, Spiderman AND god of war where near perfection in what they wanted to do. So why changing it? Only thing needed wo7ld be new story and new gameplay mechanics. But there is no reason for changing a (almost) perfect system just because it's a sequel game. Same with graphics. Today graphics are so damn good. Like photorealism... or at least near it. Do people really expect graphical jumps from ps4 to ps5 like back in the old days ps2 to ps3? Or ps3 to ps4?
I kinda thought the same thing about spiderman: miles morales, then I played it. It's still the same base game but pretty much everything around that is completely different, miles new powers, new swing animations, new suits, new crimes, new swing tricks, new enemies and new difficulties fighting said enemies. There are always new things in these games, just just have to open your eyes to it. 乁( •_• )ㄏ
The thing about the web swinging is, it looks a hell of a lot faster than the 2018 and miles morales games. I always compare it to the batman arkham games as with batman you hold down x for gliding for a majority of the game. I prefer spiderman's traversal compared to that.
The sequels adding the grapple boost helped with giving you more options than just gliding and moving around the map faster but yeah, I prefer swinging around
Well basically we can't afford to travel with swinging speed that much and it probably might take more time with web zip but I kinda like the web wings and swinging speed in the new Spiderman 2 ps5 game
I think that the traversal in these games are incredible, and I'm really excited to play through the story and utilize the gameplay. One of the reasons I love the Arkham Games and Insomniac Spider-Man games is because the gameplay and story perfectly portray the respective characters (my two favorite fictional characters of all time) and make you feel like your playing a perfect comic book adaptation
Saw a funny tweet saying "If you take away all the new mechanics, added boroughs, new content, new gadgets, new abilities, and new story, it's basically the same game."
bro said take away everything new it's the same game like no shit its like me saying remove everything arkham city did to improve from asylum its the same game
Insomniac was always a great studio in my eyes and with Spiderman they make Games for my Fav. Hero out there. I dunno why but Spider-Man is so amazing...
i think in a world of activision and EA nonsense, insomniac still had passion for game development. i’m glad they have an uber successful IP like spider-man. they deserve it honestly
Glad to see someone push back on the "Spider-Man PS4 had bad web swinging" narrative. Got so sick of people borderline acting like the web swinging in Spider-Man PS4 was nothing but autopilot just because it wasn't as loose as Spider-Man 2's physics.
This reminds me of The Legend of Zelda Breath of the wild & Tears of the kingdom. Every single time a sequel releases nowadays, people call it a giant "dlc". Sequels are meant to build on the base of the original game. Tears of the kingdom is FAR larger than any DLC to fit in, and same will probably go for Spiderman 2.
Which is why people shouldn't give these guys any sort of attention. The bs they spew out doesn't mean anything. They said the exact same thing about GoW Ragnerok and TotK, and those games ended up doing really well.
Eh, I don't know about that one. The whole time I was playing TotK, it legit felt like a mere expansion pack and not a true sequel. I did not really like it that much.
@@dave_the_slick8584 bro....17GB..."not a true sequel"......."*Mere* expansion pack" yeah sure. Being able to build something as simple as Cars to something as obscurely bizarre as literal Mechs is all just a "Mere Expansion Pack"....not to mention a whole new story.....the only reason it felt like an expansion pack is because its bassically BOTW, but better. Thats coming from a person who 100%ed BOTW in 2 weeks.
Yeah these kind of complaints have been killing me. Insomniac is one of the few Developers that actually listen to their fans, look at criticisms, and actively work to change and do better. The issues this guy has are ridiculous and they will definitely all be addressed. This game looks to be so much fun. Why wouldn't they focus on story when it was one of the strongest aspects of both the last games. I wholeheartedly agree with you. Now I have something to discuss some more next time I play and stream. Spider-Men (what I call Spider-Man 2) will be my game of the year for sure.
Kinda crazy that people expect video games to look exactly like real life. Video Games are gonna look like Video Games no matter how advanced the technology will get. Compared to the first two games, Spider-Man 2 looks bigger and better.
I can also understand not changing Peter’s swinging animation to much (maybe when he’s in the venom suit) since he’s been Spider-Man for so long at this point and already has it down, but showing some form of maturity and comfort with Miles’s swinging since he’s gotten more practice.
@@MaxPower-cm6ieit's really not though Peter has been spider-man for close to a decade now narrative wise why would he change his web swinging style especially when it's already perfected and works perfectly for him.
@@MaxPower-cm6ieyou also gotta remember spiderman does math SPECIFICALLY to swing the way he does so he doesn't hurt himself, anyone else, or break apart buildings. You don't just, a year later, automatically stop doing things that you've done for years 😂
@@mfkai6080 with that logic why would spiderman ever get tagged by nobody random goons you fight. He's been fighting close to a decade and has mastered combat so it makes no sense for him to get hit constantly
I’ve said before to people that the gameplay trailer was an earlier build and some people don’t understand that. Someone literally replied with “it’s a few months before it comes out what can they improve”. Some people just want to see this game fail
that was not an old build, that was basically when the game was done. i have no idea why you guys are calling it an “early build”. early build would look substantially different and would have released by idk like a year before release? even 2? spiderman 2 is a sequel to an extremely popular game, and its also spiderman. thats already enough marketing on its own, they dont need to show up proof of concept to build interest. they can just silently work on it until its almost done, which is what they very likely did during development. the last stretch of a game isn’t last minute stuff. slight graphical tweaks and ui is all they can do from then to october. they’re likely already working on the dlc if not already planning their next game to give you an idea, totk had a 6 year development but they spent an entire year just polishing the games physics and bugs. this game had like idk a 4-5 development? i wouldn’t doubt if the last 6-7 months was polish
if there's one thing that frustrated me about the first spderman game is that when your webslinging is very limited it literally tells you where to go not only that but it actually annoyed me that i was unable to websling past the ocean
I just think its funny how the devs literally said there’d be new animations when swinging, yet everyone thinks reusing some assets are wrong (even though that pretty much happens across all video games)
Yea like in Arkham city you had most of thr gadgets from Alyslum with some of your combat cause it was a completely different ball game same with kinght. We can expect spider man 2 to have almost all upgrades from the last game just so it feels like you start where you left off.
Reusing assets is pretty common when developing sequels like look at how long it took to make this one if they tried rebuilding everything from the ground up the game would be coming out in like 2026 or so
“Whoever else the other hunter guy is” Bro claims to be confident in his knowledge about the game before it was out, yet couldn’t even be bothered to learn the name of one of the game’s main villains.
The devs never show off everything in trailers so you are at least a little surprised especially at stuff like combat, miles morales combat was amazing so I am pretty sure the combat system will be great as well I don't know why people are hating on this game and it's not even out, thank you for bringing this to light
The context of what I was saying in my clip, which unfortunately is always lost in clips, because that's the nature of them, is that whether this game is the hugest step up in the world or not - I don't expect that from a sequel or care if it is. I care about gameplay, story and the world design. Those things were all great in the first game and in Miles' game, which is more of just a spin-off game that's a lot smaller. Like I said in my 2 videos defending this game so far - the people criticizing it based off an older build shown at basically one show floor are misguided and expecting a bit too much. This is on the same generation as SM Remastered, and I personally thought that and Miles were very technically impressive and I loved them. I have things I didn't love about them both, but overall I think they're some of the best Spidey games out there. I will admit I was saying that Miles is more of a DLC sized experience comparatively to the original, but it's actually one of the reasons I like parts of it more. It's very direct, doesn't beat around the bush and it progresses the narrative quickly while still maintaining the great gameplay of the previous game and improving on it in several ways (more tricks in the air, venom powers, interactive costumes like Spider-Man the cat, etc). I've never seen your channel before, and I'm sure you're a nice person, but this is why I often don't care much for content that reacts to things I say. I couldn't tell if the point you were making with my clip is that I agree with you or that I agree with the people criticizing the game, because I really don't fall into that category. I've noticed that when I'm brought up in videos it's very often 1 or 2 sentences and doesn't take into account the 20 minutes around it, and I end up lumped in with people who just complain about everything, and then a bunch of people come to my channel to complain about something they think I was saying that I didn't. Hope you have a nice day, continue to create successful content, and that you enjoy the game as much as I think I will.
@@C0LIN. I'm just making sure because I've noticed whenever I pop up in someone's video I get an influx of people telling me I said something I didn't say lol. I appreciate your channel and that you're actually shutting down some of the crap around this game. Hopefully my statement did not come off accusatory and I definitely hope you have a good day! Maybe sometime we can make something together! You know if you're interested lol
In the last game they had to deliberately slow down Spidy's web swinging because the ps4 simply couldn't render everything fast enough. Well in the new game, the fact the you can web zip a MILE AT A TIME alone, is worth the price of admission! You would think these same people would still be feeling foolish about how wrong they were about Tears Of The Kingdom just being dlc but apparently they've all sustained some kind of brain injury that made them incapable of learning their lesson.
17:47 "Any new web animations" ? Hello? Have you even seen the trailers? There's new swinging animations, new ko animations, and (something super new that most people probably missed) A WHOLE FREAKING WINGSUIT. Also, around the end of the video, where he says "the wingsuit is probably going to be very op to the point where web-swinging will be insignificant" or whatever, how do you make a wingsuit op? Like even Just Cause 3 and Just Cause 4 haven't done that, and their games are practically centered around the wingsuits. Also also, it's a wingsuit, not wings. You can't use it to fly forever, you're going to fall. If you look at any of the wingsuit gameplay that Insomniac has dropped, you can see that you start falling slightly after using the wingsuit for even just like 5 seconds. In Minecraft words, you have an elytra but not the fireworks to abuse it.
One of the things I’m hoping Insomniac is hiding, is Venom as a playable character. It would definitely bring me back to The Ultimate Spider-Man. That game defined my childhood, and is what made me fall in love with Spider-Man games. Even if Venom isn’t a playable character. I’m sure the Symbiote suit would compensate for that. Just as long as the gameplay differs drastically from the regular suits. (Which it looks like it will). I’ve been waiting for this game since I finished the first one. I’m beyond excited for it, and October can’t come fast enough.
New swinging animations won't save this game. What it needs is actual improvements made to the base swinging loop. There is no depth.we don't need Not shiny new toys that probably will just be as hollow as the swinging.
@@Owen-sx4jj”Won’t save this game” let’s not be too dramatic here, this game is already gonna do just as well as the first or better than the first, mainly depending on if a lot of people already got they’re PS5’s. And what are you talking about “They need actual improvements to the base swinging loop”. You can go into a slingshot, transition into web swinging, seamlessly transition into the web wings and fluidly go back to the swinging etc and mixing all three of those things have never been done in a Spider-Man game before and there might be more to it that we haven’t seen yet. New animations of anything is just the cherry on top of those three traversal options. And that’s just traversal, from what I’ve seen it feels like their gonna be great for every other aspect of the game.
@@t.j.1584I think he means he wants web swinging to be like the old Spider-Man 2 game where the web swinging is more complex and you can get consequences for messing up
@@lookhook If that’s the case than I’d agree with that. They should make two separate types of web swinging for certain players and have that option be one of them.
I don't think this guy understands that the power of the PS5 isn't really used for the graphical aspect of Spiderman 2, but more for the loading aspect, to have more objects seamless appear, to make the traversal faster a possibility, especially since the PS4 had a lot of 'pop in' at times.
See, that's what I hate about today's online community and news outlets concerning the entertainment industry. People are deciding things prematurely. A trailer is just a trailer. It shows us something and by that we can decide if it interests us or not. It won't give us anything to go by in terms criticism and such. To criticise something objectively or even subjectively, you need to know the thing. And by a trailer you won't know ish. I'm so fed up with people deciding if something is gonna be hella good or hella bad... Yes, I admit there are signs sometimes (yeah, I'm side-eying you Gollum) that something is gonna be bad. But now almost always there are people who decide if something is gonna be bad based on 90 secon clips... If these people somehow got clairvoyant power please lemme know how I can get it too, because I wanna win on the lottery real bad. Edit: Arriving at the end of the video... I think dude is just bitter and miserable. Reacting only to the "bigger world no real content" remark... There are plenty games that give you really good stuff to do in a big world. Obviously that is kinda subjective, but I rarely enjoy a big world but in Jedi Survivor I was stoked to get into discovering the maps and gathering all the stuff that was hidden and there were some reeeeaally awesome puzzles and challenges. So there is that. Big world, many things to do and dude is just pretending that didn't happen at all.
I hope that they perfected the wall crawling better because that’s one thing I really felt disconnected about like how Spider-Man couldn’t crawl over a small ledge or something like it’d be like when you walk into a wall lol
I'm so confused. Are people expecting the game to essentially a whole different game just because it's a sequel? People just complain for no reason nowadays. The game looks incredible in every aspect and I can't wait till to buy it on release day. Also it's crazy how he's basically upset that insomniac is prioritizing the STORY in a SPIDERMAN GAME
bro whenever i hear people complain about sequels looking the same i roll my eyes cause like is there supposed to be a new actor for the same character every movie
The webswinging waa already fantastic in the first game (as well as Miles Morales too). They just need to iterate on it and build upon it further. The wingsuit looks great and is going to add a whole new layer & dimension to the traversal and i an excited to play around with it.
It’s clear to me that this guy does not realize how much work goes into making a game. The fact that these games are so polished and fluid actually speaks to how much care Insomniac put into the swinging.
Thank you so much for this video, and also a side note, Insomniac addressed on Twitter that the animations that were shown in the showcase was just a demo and thats not the final version and their still updating the animations, so we’re getting newer and fresh animations.
I’m sayin I remember when Spider-Man ps4 was getting first released and everybody was acting like it was the greatest swinging ever (deservedly so) now the narrative has completely changed
another point i want to make is that there’s also the idea of web swinging being a limited idea. like, it’s not like they could just infinitely come up with more and more features for web swinging. the current web swinging system is already very strong and feels super nice, there’s genuinely no need for improvements rn.
I beat the game and i wish it was longer it was incredible and everytime i thought it would do something it switched it up just enough to make me get sucked even more into it
Spider-Man 2 is a game I'm most excited about since Spider-Man 2018 and there weren't any other game that's close to this hype. I think it might be game of the year and looks like Insomniac has a real passion for Spider-Man and they nailed it.
not only is he arrogant he is also ignorant his main points are the graphics but idk why but some people fail to realize that the ps5 wasn’t meant to be a step up in terms of graphics from the ps4 to the ps5 it was meant to be a step up in terms of performance and i don’t understand why some people fail to get that simple point and he has also claimed to not even own a ps5 which that alone shows that i can’t even take him seriously
This is getting ridiculous. This is like Calling Kirby Planet Robobot and Kirby Triple Deluxe the same game. Yes, they share similarities, but they both have different stories, different level designs, different bosses, and different extra modes. 🤦♂️ W Colin for responding to this.
This is the first video of yours I’ve stumbled upon. The way that you objectively analyzed, critiqued and dismantled this mans entire argument made me subscribe to your channel. I really appreciate well thought out content like this. Love to see it!
You should watch his break down of someone’s “analysis” of the first spider man game. I didn’t think I’d watch the whole thing but I watched the full like, hour? I think it’s about an hour
I really don’t understand this man opinion on the whole open world aspect. Like he wants more of it or something needs to change about it. Like what?! You want Spider-Man to actually talk to the npc or something? You’re a fucking superhero this ain’t gta
We’ve come into a generation where negativity pulls in views because two things happen out of that. 1. It starts a argument pulls in a group of people who want their views to be heard whether it be logical or insane. 2. It brings in the “negative crowd” these people need help but they somehow formed a community, they hate just to hate, they’re never satisfied. They will find negativity in winning the lottery. Nothing is good to them, every game and movie will flop. And when they find a video that agrees with them, it’s better than sex 😂
I absolutely love the web swinging in the current games, but Miles Morales made me CRAVE a combination of actual tricks from the Tony Hawk games with the traversal from the Spider-Man games. I think literally the only thing that Miles Morales didn’t have, at least in a PS5/non-modded configuration, is that the amount of distance you could travel per swing was still pretty short even at max swing speed. It looks to me that the swing speed might be somewhat uncapped in SM2 and I pray to god that the combination of tricks and web swinging is exactly the kind of chaos I’m thinking it could be. I’m also more of a strawberry guy.
Its like there're saying that in the game should've be in a different county or city or something and it's like how does that make sense ? Where do you want the characters to go Brazil?
2:47 To be honest...I don't give a crap about "gRaPhIcS"...give me GAMEPLAY amd STORY😭. You're right graphics today are only gonna get so much better. They're damn near movie CGI level, I'd much rather more varying artstyles cause tbvh if I wanna see some real sh!t...I'll...GO. OUTSIDE.💀🤷♂️ Theres a reason people praise the artstyles of Spiderverse, Arcane and Puss in Boots so much. Even Nimona. We see real life EVERYday, who cares about "realistic graphics" at this point😂. Just make sure the visuals are on point
its crazy to me how people will see a trailer and immediately decide to try to find something to be mad at, obsessively dissecting a way to be angry. especially over year-old footage, and then some.
16:02 About the side content, I could be wrong but it sounded like he wanted more interaction with the world so like say you’d like to walk to a bench and sit down, or more overall interaction with the world kinda like rdr2. There’s a reason why you have to care for your horse in that game, it immerses you in the world, like let’s say you’d have to repair your suit after an combat encounter but only if you get hit a certain amount. If you don’t repair your suit, you take more damage. It adds more incentive for the player to not get hit and it immerses you in becoming spidey, in that world. I love the first game and miles morales but it did feel way more gamey then I’m used to, if that makes sense? Like the last of us doesn’t feel like a game to me, it’s more like an high level interactive movie. Rdr2 doesn’t really feel like game, it’s just so well polished. My point is interacting with the world builds immersion along with other game mechanics, and tbh spidey 1 and MM have no interaction with world besides the occasional high fives and alerts from civilians
@@doorsguy177 web swinging 💀💀 bro it’s fun for like 2 hours but after swinging and doing the same repetitive crimes isnt immersive my guy, me personally I’d like the feature to change back to Pete’s every day clothes back to the suit at anytime, and don’t say it’s not possible. This is next/current Gen we’re talking here
Before my PS4 went kaput, something I would LOVE to do is I would swing, zip to points point launch, zip to more points, air tricks, etc just to get from point A to point B and it was enjoyable to traverse Manhattan like that
The only concern, or more like a hope, happens in the game is being able to play in the black suit post game and not something that's only available for mid story mode
So when ppl say it looks like the same game base on the trailer: "the game haven't come out yet shut up" But at the same breath this game is making the biggest leap (but casual bring up gow ragnarok) compared to recent games. Over what? Devs comments? Sir you haven't seen the game yet too💀💀💀 insomniac d riding is insane.
This is the same case it was with gow ragnarok, some people complained there was not as much changes as it has been between between gow 3 and 2018. Like bro if something is perfect dont change it, just improve it a bit if its possible😐. Thats how spiderman 2 should be
Spider-Man 2: Updated graphics, new supported hardware, new models, updated models, more new areas of New York, new ways to travel than just web-swinging, play as both Miles and Peter and black suit with new gameplay People: sAME GaMe ThO! ☝️🤓
I spotted it spider man 1 and miles morales are similar 1. both games have super advanced military (sable, roxxon) 2. both games have gang (demons, underground) 3. main villain is friend of spider man (Otto - Peter, Phin/tinkerer - Miles)
I always wondered for the people that said that the gameplay trailer graphics were bad what were they talking about💀from the day the trailer dropped I never noticed any negatives it looked way better
3:58 Great video, but a feedback man, I think in clips like these you should try to increase the volume to match your voice. It's way too low. If it wasn't from the automatic subtitles I wouldn't know what he was saying there lol
I have no issues with the web swinging mechanics. I think it’s fun and I look forward to the wing suit. I do agree with that guy about the side Contant I have never felt compelled to do much of it in any Spider-Man game. I think it’s boring. I hope that’s improved in this game, but other than that, I’m very excited to play new Spider-Man this fall!
i can rlly only compare this to cod, cause its all that can come to mind; the difference between saying mw2->mw3 is the same and spiderman games are the same to each other is that the reuse or whatever of assets, animations and more is used to progress a story written with passion for the spidermen game, and cod had to release a new game, cause they always release a new one every year, and didn't have their next one on schedule. Also the major reason that ppl are so mad about the cod "dlc" is that its a min of $70 to play these minor changes which shouldn't affect the company if they lower the price cause of how much money they make on in game transactions; the spiderman games dont have nearly as many purchases, so while it is a high price point, it makes more sense. Also reusing gameplay features makes more sense with a story driven game because the only variable in these games should be the story, which is what you are buying, with a few changes to graphics and whatnot; but with cod, as an arcade shooter, the main differences between the games should absolutely be game mechanics; they need to change the guns, change the movement entirely (jump packs or smth idk), change the maps, the graphics, the ui, the menus, everything. A story game should have its story as the main changing point, with its side stuff more; they should review the story aspect since its the major point of the game
Well yeah the games after the first game should've been dlc's but based on how much I enjoyed spider-man and Miles Morales I'm ok with the fact that its like the first game since I liked it so much. And they did add more factors into the game while adding more villains, As well as the fact that they will have an extension of abilities and skins for miles & peter. Also, the Venom suit will be adding a collection of things to the game probably.
Thank you for addressing this, recently there’s been that group of people when a new sequel releases they just call it “dlc”. Like they had just completely forgotten the concept of what a sequel is actually supposed to be.
Like people with tears of the kingdom
TOTK was ment to be DLC so I could see why people thought that
@@ev4n109EXACTLY people were saying” oh it looks the same oh it’s DLC oh it’s gonna be wack”. Then when it came out “GAME OF THE YEAR‼️”
@@radomaccount8856 it was most certainly NOT meant to be a sequel. A dlc doesnt take 5 fking years man
Most of them are people that have PS4. They're mad asf that they can't play. I bet the dude in the video is the same way. Listen to it again it sounds like he's salty that he can't play it 😂
Man the game isnt even out and people have started hating it...
Fr fr
They only hating cus can't afford a ps5
They are called xbox fans
@@wbradd-not really yo up could just dislike the game
@@theshadow9973most people don't even try things out before hating and if they do they hate because they can't understand
I always laugh when people call sequels “the same game,” as if gameplay from one entry to the next shouldn’t be consistent.
and then when its not consistent they freak out saying it should have been like the first one
Facts!
They wanted this one to be a turn based rpg, really switch up the gameplay
@@johnapplegate3134would’ve been dumb as fuck lol.
@@johnapplegate3134 sadly coming from post release it's not turn based and is instead a very safe sequel they just didn't take a big enough leap. They should have made the game a dating sim imo really change the fundamental core surprise everyone. Definitely going to win the award for worst game of the year.
It’s so sad to see that a group like insomniac games can work on such a big game and then have someone ruin it like “the graphics aren’t even that much better”. Thank you for addressing this
There will always be someone who cries when graphics dont look better than real life
somebody complained about it being new York again as if people want it to be chicago
@@gokufan75 i think they are all trolls, literally everyone who knows spiderman knows that new york is his place
@@JeloOW yea because nobody serious complains about a setting when the mc lived there and the fact they need to play it
@@JeloOWbut let's be honest we'd like to see spiderman in a little bit of different surrounding. I mean let's be honest gta was always amazing because the cities in the games were different for most part. It wouldn't make sense story wise for spider man to be in a different city but it'll be fun if they try
What baffles me is that the guy literally said he wasn't buying the game... So why was he complaining about the mechanics of an outdated gameplay reveal?? Absolutely mind-boggling.
Great video, Colin. Looking forward to seeing more from ya!
Lol they are mad over a trailer. A game that hasn't even been released yet
Which is 🧢 bet he’s gonna be among the first to get it
He's salty that he can't afford it. 😂
They are all xbox players so yea
@arkham_phantom as a pc player i will literally buy a ps5 simply for spider man 2
Lesson one on the human race:
Some will hate because they have nothing better to do
Here is how I feel about the argument about the web swinging animations. Peter has been Spider-Man for at least 9-10 years why the hell would he change the way he swings because someone swings with more swagger than him now. He has the swinging down well and it works for him why change it. If people are upset because miles has better animations than peter than free roam as miles. That’s the whole point of having the vast difference.
That is such a stubborn mindset, just feels like "oh I already done so much, don't expect me to do more or to improve myself". There's always room for self-improvement.
We're talking about Peter, he's always updating himself, he made so many suits over the years because of that. He literally has web wings now, something even the comics dropped, so why wouldn't he learn new tricks, specially now that he's working side-by-side with Miles?
You can make the argument that he doesn't need to, but to say he wouldn't and deny players that experience is just lazy and lack of creativity.
Makes sense, it's like how players were mad at how kratos was throwing his axe the exact same way in gow 2018.
If spiderman was only say a year or 2 in to his career, and the next game was set 2 years from now. We would see significant improvement.
But he's been spiderman for a solid while so why would he change it up too much. He might make some slight differences cause all the new tech and suits and whatever.
'But if it ain't broke don't fix it' is a decent mindset. He's not gonna do something completely different.
@@radrno7dumbass
@@radrno7 From the story standpoint do you think peter cares about how flashy miles is? It would make sense if miles swinging had an advantage or if it was more efficient ..but it's not. Nothing wrong with being stylish but I don't think its that a big of deal as people make it out to be. Especially when get to experience both miles and peter. Peter now has the symbiote so I do think it'll factor into a somewhat of a new experience.
@@lovesonrana102Peter taught Miles to begin with...then Miles made his own style of swinging. And now Peter should be changing because Miles did? No. Remember when Bruce Lee said "I fear not the one who has practiced 1000 kicks but the one who has practiced 1 kick 1000 times" . Or something like that.
So at the end Peter doesn't need to really change, his improvement leaps will be way smaller because he's close to having maximised his swinging efficiency. And something people don't see is that the original Spiderman is not that petty, he doesn't care who looks more stylish swinging like a dumb*ss in the middle of the city. If he'd want recognition or acknowledgement, he'd not have worn that mask in the first place. So in the end, I agree with you.
I swear. People will just find a way to complain about *ANYTHING.* Nothing is ever good enough. This generation of gamers are so ungrateful. If they're so ungrateful enough to not expect things the way they are then they don't deserve a new game. Plain and simple.
all I complain is miles is in the game I want him dead.
@@dolphin-studiothank God you don't make insomniac spider man games this complian is shit
The gaming industry has a ton of issues. But I feel like the gaming community has gotten so caught up in all the bs that they started becoming more cynical and irrational.
Welcome to the era of modern critics. All they do is complian and hate for the sake of it. Like I had someone complian about miles or Peter not being dead or that the game takes place in the same new York. THey just complian about nothing for the sake of hating since they don't like the game or dev or characters they will call the whole game trash even if some thing is perfect they will always ALWAYS be that one person who says that this is shit or mid
@@dolphin-studio why?
Personally, I kind of like it if they keep some of Peter's old animations because that's how he swings. Now, can they improve the mechanics and stuff, yes, but he's been Spider-man for 8 years in SM-PS4, so in my mind, it makes sense that he still swings the same because that's how he's always done it. That's why I love Miles' transition from his game to this one where he seems more confident in his swinging. So, they can add new stuff, but not I would keep a good portion of his old animations personally.
Because context in a story doesn’t matter to some people.
They want it to be completely new, and anything that’s reused is lazy to them.
I’ve seen a lot of people who are very angry that Spider-Man 2 shares similarities with the previous games.
Legit I’ve seen people say a sequel should have nothing in common with previous titles.
@@Longest_Commnenteven tho the sequels are supposed to take what its predecessors had and improve upon it, and in the new gameplay video Peter was shown doing tricks, plus why change or fix a combat system that's already worked for the first 2 games?
I’m actually braindead. Man said SpiderMan 2 is the same game.💀Thank you for responding to this
What did you do?
I'm actually braindead
Bro the guy saying that it's the same game, he must want a total redo and tire out the poor developers who are trying to make this game as best as it can
Bro just forgot the Symbiote is essentially a third character.
I’m the joker
“The web swinging is boring” says the guy who’s swinging as slow as possible and getting stuck in a tree. Yeah it’s gonna be the same thing if you only use r2 that’s not the only traversal controls
Reminds me of the recent FF16 thing, where someone was complaining that that the game was too easy by beating a boss with only hitting a single button. Despite the fact that they were only in the starting area and literally using optional gear, that was an accessibility control, that was designed to make the game easier.
It requires little to no skill lmao
@@kingkami1739 what a load of bollocks lmao
@@MaxPower-cm6ieit REQUIRES a little to no skill. But if you want it to look good and be fast it needs some skill
@@Kulascus You guys are worryingly clueless.
Momentum makes barely any sense in this game. The swinging is capped at its speed and whether you swing from the empire state or smaller building you get the same amount of momentum. There is no thought to the swinging aside from spamming the web launches to give you extra boosts.
The game automates the swinging to help you LOOK good so newbies and little children can have a fun time playing it.
You can't FAIL. Imagine bragging about a skill ceiling in a game that ENSURES you don't fail lmao.
As someone who never cares to play through extra content in games like side quests I can 100% say that spiderman's world is awesome. Literally the only game that I want to 100% and then replay it again and again
The only game that I 100% completed.
Holy shit a SINGLE PLAYER STORY GAME based on a COMIC BOOK is pushing its STORY😱😱😱
bro he was tripping about the game’s focus on the story like their game and its isn’t story isn’t mcu canon 💀💀
@@roddyyboyyeah
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
I think a lot of people do seem to miss that the Webswinging in Insomniac's Spider-Man is basically like Skateboarding in the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games
Designed to be easy to use, so someone who's not good at games can still play, but it's hard to master and it's learning how to master the traversal that keeps it fun.
There's a term for that: Low skill floor, high skill ceiling. And that's what you want in a game for mechanics! The skill floor should be low so then it's easy to pick up, but then the skill ceiling can be much higher, which forces you to experiment with combinations, different moves sets, or mixing up different styles! That's why Spider-Man PS4 and Miles Morales have such high replay value.
That's absolute bull. The web swinging was built to get you from point a to point b with nice animations. There's nothing to master only to get familiar and used to it since there's no fail state . And in tony hawk you have to score and complete challenges and earn xp for traversal, but no in spiderman, a better example of easy to use hard to master is arkham combat. Is as deep as you want and has a combo meter. I think people don't get why people criticize the system
@@notlNSIGHTit doesn't apply to the web swinging read my previous comment
@notlNSIGHT theres no different movesets or styles in spiderman its adjust automatically and approximately. You meke it sound like you control everything and chose every move that's not the case
@@davecarterNV5 Except it is. Web zip, point launch, tricks, zipping to a ledge, and just swinging in general. You control ALL of that. There's a high skill ceiling and a low skill floor.
“Arent hiding new swinging animations they didn’t improve the swinging”
After seeing the state of play footage: 💀
Yeah that line aged like milk
We live in a day of age where people complain about anything and everything…
1. They showed us a build that wasn’t even complete yet.
2. No animations were shown because that wasn’t the purpose of the demo. They were showing new features like the symbiotie suit, wing suit, combat, bio electric powers, switch in characters etc.
3. The devs said the wingsuit compliments the web swinging. Not the other way around. They know it’s the core of the game.
4. There will be more animations it’s confirmed…
5. Revamping a sequel is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Why would miles and Pete change how they swing? Why would they scrap something that already works for everyone? Make it make sense. Like Batman Arkaham they kept building on the foundation Arkham Asylum.
6. For the idiots saying this is a PS4 game are just hella mad they don’t have the PS5. The lighting is way different and the PS4 cannot handle instant switching in a huge ass map with the graphics and speed that the game has. It would probably blow up.
7. The point is to stop with the bad faith arguments when you haven’t seen shit yet lmao.
It’s funny because there was one new swinging animation for Peter that flew over people’s heads (pun intended)
@@Lancehendrix813damn where? i missed that
@@Lancehendrix813And Miles.
@@loadshedding_It was right before he activated his wing suit to fly towards the gunship.
@@t.j.1584 thanks
I still find it crazy how people really thought that a 10 minute demo spoiled a whole (potentially) 10 hour story, like the demo isn’t even the full mission there’s definitely cutscenes and parts of the mission that got cut out
Who is saying this?
@@Vintagesonic1 i guess people who must’ve really thought the demo spoiled the game. Even yuri talked about it
The first game was 17 hours-ish I think it’s fair to assume that this one will be about the same or probably longer.
@@turbkeysamdwich1880that’s weird cuz it took me around 9 hours to beat Spider-Man remastered..on my first playthrough in which I played on spectacular difficulty aswell
@@ZeeroDudefull or story?
Love when you actually speak your mind man😂 some of these complaints people are making is just unbelievable
Nothing like a ass kisser
I think Tears of the Kingdom is enough proof that you don’t need to change everything to make a sequel perfect
EXACTLY!
TRUUUUEEEEE
Bro. You just defeated every body
@@CraneTrain Not really. I don't see the mythical "perfect sequel" everybody else saw.
It’s like they have amnesia.
I wish everyone could just appreciate what insomniac has done for the fans
For real, like everyone is complaining about "crunch" and other crap when they revolutionized the gaming industry with Spider-Man ps4 and still making 🐐 tier games.
Right?! 🤌🏽
If there's one thing I have learned you cannot make everyone happy because people who hate on Marvel Spider-Man 2 PS5 is nothing but a loser that sets their expectations way too high And doing so automatically setting themselves up for disappointment 🤦♂️
I appreciate them. They have made the best modern Spider-Man games.
What's even morre funny is that we are in the golden age of spider-man games, pass the times where almost every spider-man games by the likes of beenox and treyarch weren't rush out the gates because of activison.
And yet people still can't appreciate what Insomniac has been doing for the character since 2018. Its like they want to go back to those dark days where you don't know if a spider-man game would be good.
I'm just in awe of a man stating the swinging is boring and repetitive in the game while playing footage clearly showing he literally never learned how to swing-by the time he started a new game+ playthrough. That's mind blowing to me.
it feels like he played the game with his eyes closed the way he was swinging lmao in an hour you should have the basics on how to swing
@@gokufan75it took me thirty minutes due to playing old Spider-Man games that nearly used similar controls
I didn’t realize it was physically possible for a human to talk out of their ass like Ace Ventura, and yet I’ve witnessed it.
Basically xbox fans who hate when someone gets a better exclusive game
Calling Spiderman 2 the same game is like calling Tears of The Kingdom the same game as Breath of The Wild
Trust me, those people also exist.
They 100% exist. It was like a massive point of contention surrounding the games unfortunately. Which blows my mind.
Or like calling Kirby Planet Robobot and Kirby Triple Deluxe the same game.
So many people said that and it was absolutely insane
It’s like calling a sequel to literally anything a dlc
I’m really excited for Spider-Man 2. I don’t care if it’s mostly the same. Spider-Man and Miles Morales were incredible games, and I want more of that.
Same
i cant wait to start playing it
And the fact that you can play as both in one game!!!
Same with god of war. Both, Spiderman AND god of war where near perfection in what they wanted to do. So why changing it? Only thing needed wo7ld be new story and new gameplay mechanics. But there is no reason for changing a (almost) perfect system just because it's a sequel game. Same with graphics. Today graphics are so damn good. Like photorealism... or at least near it. Do people really expect graphical jumps from ps4 to ps5 like back in the old days ps2 to ps3? Or ps3 to ps4?
@@andreauster1997 exactly
I kinda thought the same thing about spiderman: miles morales, then I played it. It's still the same base game but pretty much everything around that is completely different, miles new powers, new swing animations, new suits, new crimes, new swing tricks, new enemies and new difficulties fighting said enemies. There are always new things in these games, just just have to open your eyes to it. 乁( •_• )ㄏ
Miles morales could honestly could be classified as a dlc but since it is a full game it’s isnt
Miles did make improvements but I feel like that's a game that could actually be called a glorified DLC
Spiderman PS4 was really good but miles morales wasn't it at all. Not worth 70
Miles Morales was a ps5 tech demo. It was amazing, but let's not compare it to spider-man 2
@@rushpatriot2866 Miles Morales story was lacking yeah but it was amazing worth like 50 I’d say
The thing about the web swinging is, it looks a hell of a lot faster than the 2018 and miles morales games. I always compare it to the batman arkham games as with batman you hold down x for gliding for a majority of the game. I prefer spiderman's traversal compared to that.
The sequels adding the grapple boost helped with giving you more options than just gliding and moving around the map faster but yeah, I prefer swinging around
@LeopoldLitchenstein that is true, and arkham knight also added the batmobile, but even then, I never used the batmobile throughout knight
@@bewarethebat0 I only used it when it was required. The 5× grapnel boost was way more fun
Well basically we can't afford to travel with swinging speed that much and it probably might take more time with web zip but I kinda like the web wings and swinging speed in the new Spiderman 2 ps5 game
i mean batman isnt spider man, i didnt expect his damn gliding to be super deep, you wont see batman swinging around with webs
I think that the traversal in these games are incredible, and I'm really excited to play through the story and utilize the gameplay. One of the reasons I love the Arkham Games and Insomniac Spider-Man games is because the gameplay and story perfectly portray the respective characters (my two favorite fictional characters of all time) and make you feel like your playing a perfect comic book adaptation
Saw a funny tweet saying "If you take away all the new mechanics, added boroughs, new content, new gadgets, new abilities, and new story, it's basically the same game."
Also like your new profile pic
thanks for the air dodge tip
bro said take away everything new it's the same game like no shit its like me saying remove everything arkham city did to improve from asylum its the same game
Yes if you take everything away its the same thus my comment is smart
I genuinely like Insomniac. They seem to care about their work, and about Spider-Man as a whole.
Of course.
Insomniac was always a great studio in my eyes and with Spiderman they make Games for my Fav. Hero out there. I dunno why but Spider-Man is so amazing...
@@Donnovo Cause hes just so relatable and has a awesome origin story - and the movies are pretty great too
i think in a world of activision and EA nonsense, insomniac still had passion for game development. i’m glad they have an uber successful IP like spider-man. they deserve it honestly
@ Its_Pretty_Lame
If they truly cared they wouldnt have allowed Sarkeesian in back in the day and would have stayed more faithfull to the comics.
Glad to see someone push back on the "Spider-Man PS4 had bad web swinging" narrative. Got so sick of people borderline acting like the web swinging in Spider-Man PS4 was nothing but autopilot just because it wasn't as loose as Spider-Man 2's physics.
This reminds me of The Legend of Zelda Breath of the wild & Tears of the kingdom.
Every single time a sequel releases nowadays, people call it a giant "dlc".
Sequels are meant to build on the base of the original game.
Tears of the kingdom is FAR larger than any DLC to fit in, and same will probably go for Spiderman 2.
Which is why people shouldn't give these guys any sort of attention. The bs they spew out doesn't mean anything. They said the exact same thing about GoW Ragnerok and TotK, and those games ended up doing really well.
Eh, I don't know about that one. The whole time I was playing TotK, it legit felt like a mere expansion pack and not a true sequel. I did not really like it that much.
@@dave_the_slick8584 bro....17GB..."not a true sequel"......."*Mere* expansion pack"
yeah sure. Being able to build something as simple as Cars to something as obscurely bizarre as literal Mechs is all just a "Mere Expansion Pack"....not to mention a whole new story.....the only reason it felt like an expansion pack is because its bassically BOTW, but better. Thats coming from a person who 100%ed BOTW in 2 weeks.
what i mean is people dont seem to appreciate sequels as much as they should anymore. Probably why Mario Odyssey 2 doesnt exist.
I don't see how those people don't realize the difference
If it's DLC you literally CANNOT get it without the OG game.
Yeah these kind of complaints have been killing me. Insomniac is one of the few Developers that actually listen to their fans, look at criticisms, and actively work to change and do better. The issues this guy has are ridiculous and they will definitely all be addressed. This game looks to be so much fun. Why wouldn't they focus on story when it was one of the strongest aspects of both the last games. I wholeheartedly agree with you. Now I have something to discuss some more next time I play and stream. Spider-Men (what I call Spider-Man 2) will be my game of the year for sure.
i bet the people that complain are the people that buy cod and 2k every year
@@paras1ghtzI get buying 2K like once every console, but every year? It’s just the same thing but on a better console
Kinda crazy that people expect video games to look exactly like real life. Video Games are gonna look like Video Games no matter how advanced the technology will get. Compared to the first two games, Spider-Man 2 looks bigger and better.
I can also understand not changing Peter’s swinging animation to much (maybe when he’s in the venom suit) since he’s been Spider-Man for so long at this point and already has it down, but showing some form of maturity and comfort with Miles’s swinging since he’s gotten more practice.
This is such a stupid excuse
@@MaxPower-cm6ieit's really not though Peter has been spider-man for close to a decade now narrative wise why would he change his web swinging style especially when it's already perfected and works perfectly for him.
@@mfkai6080 agreed
@@MaxPower-cm6ieyou also gotta remember spiderman does math SPECIFICALLY to swing the way he does so he doesn't hurt himself, anyone else, or break apart buildings. You don't just, a year later, automatically stop doing things that you've done for years 😂
@@mfkai6080 with that logic why would spiderman ever get tagged by nobody random goons you fight. He's been fighting close to a decade and has mastered combat so it makes no sense for him to get hit constantly
I’ve said before to people that the gameplay trailer was an earlier build and some people don’t understand that. Someone literally replied with “it’s a few months before it comes out what can they improve”. Some people just want to see this game fail
its less people wanting the game to fail and more.... its just people dont understand game development
Incels with sad lives praying that something isnt successful or that anybody has fun.
that was not an old build, that was basically when the game was done. i have no idea why you guys are calling it an “early build”. early build would look substantially different and would have released by idk like a year before release? even 2? spiderman 2 is a sequel to an extremely popular game, and its also spiderman. thats already enough marketing on its own, they dont need to show up proof of concept to build interest. they can just silently work on it until its almost done, which is what they very likely did during development.
the last stretch of a game isn’t last minute stuff. slight graphical tweaks and ui is all they can do from then to october. they’re likely already working on the dlc if not already planning their next game
to give you an idea, totk had a 6 year development but they spent an entire year just polishing the games physics and bugs. this game had like idk a 4-5 development? i wouldn’t doubt if the last 6-7 months was polish
@@demifolk8940It was confirmed by a developer that it was an old build, go search it up before you assume
@@demifolk8940One of the directors at Insomniac confirmed it was an early build on a Twitter reply.
I bet all these people don't even have a PS5 and that they were making an excuse why they won't be playing it rather than why they can't play it.
Him saying the swinging his bad is so funny because you can tell from his gameplay he’s just bad at it 🤣
Gets the symbiote, immediately chooses violence
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Colin on that hero arc😤😤😤😤😤😤
if there's one thing that frustrated me about the first spderman game is that when your webslinging is very limited it literally tells you where to go not only that but it actually annoyed me that i was unable to websling past the ocean
I just think its funny how the devs literally said there’d be new animations when swinging, yet everyone thinks reusing some assets are wrong (even though that pretty much happens across all video games)
Yea like in Arkham city you had most of thr gadgets from Alyslum with some of your combat cause it was a completely different ball game same with kinght. We can expect spider man 2 to have almost all upgrades from the last game just so it feels like you start where you left off.
Reusing assets is pretty common when developing sequels like look at how long it took to make this one if they tried rebuilding everything from the ground up the game would be coming out in like 2026 or so
He seems like the type of guy that never did a air trick in miles ☠️
“Whoever else the other hunter guy is” Bro claims to be confident in his knowledge about the game before it was out, yet couldn’t even be bothered to learn the name of one of the game’s main villains.
15:26 “Whoever else the hunter guy is” bro I lost my brain cells, I can’t believe I forgot that he said that 😂😂☠️
I bursted out laughing at the pipe drop sound bit.
The devs never show off everything in trailers so you are at least a little surprised especially at stuff like combat, miles morales combat was amazing so I am pretty sure the combat system will be great as well I don't know why people are hating on this game and it's not even out, thank you for bringing this to light
Gamers need to stfu about graphics. We need smoother games because that actually improves gameplay
Ssktjl is proof enough
The context of what I was saying in my clip, which unfortunately is always lost in clips, because that's the nature of them, is that whether this game is the hugest step up in the world or not - I don't expect that from a sequel or care if it is. I care about gameplay, story and the world design. Those things were all great in the first game and in Miles' game, which is more of just a spin-off game that's a lot smaller. Like I said in my 2 videos defending this game so far - the people criticizing it based off an older build shown at basically one show floor are misguided and expecting a bit too much. This is on the same generation as SM Remastered, and I personally thought that and Miles were very technically impressive and I loved them. I have things I didn't love about them both, but overall I think they're some of the best Spidey games out there. I will admit I was saying that Miles is more of a DLC sized experience comparatively to the original, but it's actually one of the reasons I like parts of it more. It's very direct, doesn't beat around the bush and it progresses the narrative quickly while still maintaining the great gameplay of the previous game and improving on it in several ways (more tricks in the air, venom powers, interactive costumes like Spider-Man the cat, etc). I've never seen your channel before, and I'm sure you're a nice person, but this is why I often don't care much for content that reacts to things I say. I couldn't tell if the point you were making with my clip is that I agree with you or that I agree with the people criticizing the game, because I really don't fall into that category. I've noticed that when I'm brought up in videos it's very often 1 or 2 sentences and doesn't take into account the 20 minutes around it, and I end up lumped in with people who just complain about everything, and then a bunch of people come to my channel to complain about something they think I was saying that I didn't. Hope you have a nice day, continue to create successful content, and that you enjoy the game as much as I think I will.
The clip of u was from the other guys video, I know u weren’t criticizing the game
@@C0LIN. I'm just making sure because I've noticed whenever I pop up in someone's video I get an influx of people telling me I said something I didn't say lol. I appreciate your channel and that you're actually shutting down some of the crap around this game. Hopefully my statement did not come off accusatory and I definitely hope you have a good day! Maybe sometime we can make something together! You know if you're interested lol
You got destroyed 💀💀💀🙏🙏🙏
@@C0LIN.”i know u werent criticizing the game” bro u sound like a toxic spiderman fan lmao
This is why you are one of my favourite channels
In the last game they had to deliberately slow down Spidy's web swinging because the ps4 simply couldn't render everything fast enough. Well in the new game, the fact the you can web zip a MILE AT A TIME alone, is worth the price of admission!
You would think these same people would still be feeling foolish about how wrong they were about Tears Of The Kingdom just being dlc but apparently they've all sustained some kind of brain injury that made them incapable of learning their lesson.
17:47 "Any new web animations" ? Hello? Have you even seen the trailers? There's new swinging animations, new ko animations, and (something super new that most people probably missed) A WHOLE FREAKING WINGSUIT. Also, around the end of the video, where he says "the wingsuit is probably going to be very op to the point where web-swinging will be insignificant" or whatever, how do you make a wingsuit op? Like even Just Cause 3 and Just Cause 4 haven't done that, and their games are practically centered around the wingsuits. Also also, it's a wingsuit, not wings. You can't use it to fly forever, you're going to fall. If you look at any of the wingsuit gameplay that Insomniac has dropped, you can see that you start falling slightly after using the wingsuit for even just like 5 seconds. In Minecraft words, you have an elytra but not the fireworks to abuse it.
One of the things I’m hoping Insomniac is hiding, is Venom as a playable character. It would definitely bring me back to The Ultimate Spider-Man. That game defined my childhood, and is what made me fall in love with Spider-Man games. Even if Venom isn’t a playable character. I’m sure the Symbiote suit would compensate for that. Just as long as the gameplay differs drastically from the regular suits. (Which it looks like it will). I’ve been waiting for this game since I finished the first one. I’m beyond excited for it, and October can’t come fast enough.
The symbiotic is literally same as red suit with 4 cool down attacks that’s it. Nothint unique like web of shadows symbiotic suit
Not even close bro
One of the creators also said that they also created new swinging animations for Peter and Miles when asked about it on Twitter
New swinging animations won't save this game. What it needs is actual improvements made to the base swinging loop. There is no depth.we don't need Not shiny new toys that probably will just be as hollow as the swinging.
@@Owen-sx4jj”Won’t save this game” let’s not be too dramatic here, this game is already gonna do just as well as the first or better than the first, mainly depending on if a lot of people already got they’re PS5’s. And what are you talking about “They need actual improvements to the base swinging loop”. You can go into a slingshot, transition into web swinging, seamlessly transition into the web wings and fluidly go back to the swinging etc and mixing all three of those things have never been done in a Spider-Man game before and there might be more to it that we haven’t seen yet. New animations of anything is just the cherry on top of those three traversal options. And that’s just traversal, from what I’ve seen it feels like their gonna be great for every other aspect of the game.
@@t.j.1584I think he means he wants web swinging to be like the old Spider-Man 2 game where the web swinging is more complex and you can get consequences for messing up
@@lookhook If that’s the case than I’d agree with that. They should make two separate types of web swinging for certain players and have that option be one of them.
@@t.j.1584 yeah the more rag doll type web swinging and the simple web swinging
15:24 I was trying so hard not to laugh. "that hunter guy" bro wtf.
16:00 “not any interactivity” while showing Peter go through a train in his websuit
I don't think this guy understands that the power of the PS5 isn't really used for the graphical aspect of Spiderman 2, but more for the loading aspect, to have more objects seamless appear, to make the traversal faster a possibility, especially since the PS4 had a lot of 'pop in' at times.
The game is probably gonna be 4k 60 like the spiderman remaster
no excuses for it to look like a ps4 game
exsctly@@MaxPower-cm6ie
See, that's what I hate about today's online community and news outlets concerning the entertainment industry. People are deciding things prematurely. A trailer is just a trailer. It shows us something and by that we can decide if it interests us or not. It won't give us anything to go by in terms criticism and such. To criticise something objectively or even subjectively, you need to know the thing. And by a trailer you won't know ish. I'm so fed up with people deciding if something is gonna be hella good or hella bad... Yes, I admit there are signs sometimes (yeah, I'm side-eying you Gollum) that something is gonna be bad. But now almost always there are people who decide if something is gonna be bad based on 90 secon clips... If these people somehow got clairvoyant power please lemme know how I can get it too, because I wanna win on the lottery real bad.
Edit: Arriving at the end of the video... I think dude is just bitter and miserable. Reacting only to the "bigger world no real content" remark... There are plenty games that give you really good stuff to do in a big world. Obviously that is kinda subjective, but I rarely enjoy a big world but in Jedi Survivor I was stoked to get into discovering the maps and gathering all the stuff that was hidden and there were some reeeeaally awesome puzzles and challenges. So there is that. Big world, many things to do and dude is just pretending that didn't happen at all.
I hope that they perfected the wall crawling better because that’s one thing I really felt disconnected about like how Spider-Man couldn’t crawl over a small ledge or something like it’d be like when you walk into a wall lol
I agree, I noticed it was a lot better in the mile morales game.
I'm so confused. Are people expecting the game to essentially a whole different game just because it's a sequel? People just complain for no reason nowadays. The game looks incredible in every aspect and I can't wait till to buy it on release day. Also it's crazy how he's basically upset that insomniac is prioritizing the STORY in a SPIDERMAN GAME
bro whenever i hear people complain about sequels looking the same i roll my eyes cause like is there supposed to be a new actor for the same character every movie
The webswinging waa already fantastic in the first game (as well as Miles Morales too). They just need to iterate on it and build upon it further. The wingsuit looks great and is going to add a whole new layer & dimension to the traversal and i an excited to play around with it.
It’s clear to me that this guy does not realize how much work goes into making a game. The fact that these games are so polished and fluid actually speaks to how much care Insomniac put into the swinging.
his gameplay was so painful to watch, even my 11 year old brother already mastered it in less than 5 hours of play time
Thank you so much for this video, and also a side note, Insomniac addressed on Twitter that the animations that were shown in the showcase was just a demo and thats not the final version and their still updating the animations, so we’re getting newer and fresh animations.
I love how the web swinging wasn’t a problem until now
I’m sayin I remember when Spider-Man ps4 was getting first released and everybody was acting like it was the greatest swinging ever (deservedly so) now the narrative has completely changed
@@O.H306it’s not the greatest swinging stop lying
@@bll1 never said it was but I can see why others would think that, it’s a good swinging system deserving of praise
@@bll1 well actually it is 🤓☝️
another point i want to make is that there’s also the idea of web swinging being a limited idea. like, it’s not like they could just infinitely come up with more and more features for web swinging. the current web swinging system is already very strong and feels super nice, there’s genuinely no need for improvements rn.
7:52 I still replay the game from time to time just to swing around. The web swinging in Spiderman is absolutely phenomenal
I swear this guy must have not done anything else in his life but hate. The fact he called Kraven a hunter guy is crazy to me honestly
I beat the game and i wish it was longer it was incredible and everytime i thought it would do something it switched it up just enough to make me get sucked even more into it
Spider-Man 2 is a game I'm most excited about since Spider-Man 2018 and there weren't any other game that's close to this hype. I think it might be game of the year and looks like Insomniac has a real passion for Spider-Man and they nailed it.
not only is he arrogant he is also ignorant his main points are the graphics but idk why but some people fail to realize that the ps5 wasn’t meant to be a step up in terms of graphics from the ps4 to the ps5 it was meant to be a step up in terms of performance and i don’t understand why some people fail to get that simple point and he has also claimed to not even own a ps5 which that alone shows that i can’t even take him seriously
“There are some animations from Spider-Man 1 and Miles Morales”
As the saying goes, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
This is getting ridiculous. This is like Calling Kirby Planet Robobot and Kirby Triple Deluxe the same game. Yes, they share similarities, but they both have different stories, different level designs, different bosses, and different extra modes. 🤦♂️ W Colin for responding to this.
This is the first video of yours I’ve stumbled upon. The way that you objectively analyzed, critiqued and dismantled this mans entire argument made me subscribe to your channel. I really appreciate well thought out content like this. Love to see it!
You should watch his break down of someone’s “analysis” of the first spider man game. I didn’t think I’d watch the whole thing but I watched the full like, hour? I think it’s about an hour
@@Jegbmf Appreciate the suggestion! I’ll definitely check that video out
@@obi188watch the whole thing it’s worth it and it’s hilarious to see how dumb that other guy’s logic is
I really don’t understand this man opinion on the whole open world aspect. Like he wants more of it or something needs to change about it. Like what?! You want Spider-Man to actually talk to the npc or something? You’re a fucking superhero this ain’t gta
We’ve come into a generation where negativity pulls in views because two things happen out of that. 1. It starts a argument pulls in a group of people who want their views to be heard whether it be logical or insane. 2. It brings in the “negative crowd” these people need help but they somehow formed a community, they hate just to hate, they’re never satisfied. They will find negativity in winning the lottery. Nothing is good to them, every game and movie will flop. And when they find a video that agrees with them, it’s better than sex 😂
@cartoonistlouis773 100% agree
I absolutely love the web swinging in the current games, but Miles Morales made me CRAVE a combination of actual tricks from the Tony Hawk games with the traversal from the Spider-Man games. I think literally the only thing that Miles Morales didn’t have, at least in a PS5/non-modded configuration, is that the amount of distance you could travel per swing was still pretty short even at max swing speed. It looks to me that the swing speed might be somewhat uncapped in SM2 and I pray to god that the combination of tricks and web swinging is exactly the kind of chaos I’m thinking it could be. I’m also more of a strawberry guy.
Its like there're saying that in the game should've be in a different county or city or something and it's like how does that make sense ? Where do you want the characters to go Brazil?
Thank you Colin. You are a very true webslinger. Thank you for this backup after all the criticism. Stan lee would be proud🤝.
2:47 To be honest...I don't give a crap about "gRaPhIcS"...give me GAMEPLAY amd STORY😭. You're right graphics today are only gonna get so much better. They're damn near movie CGI level, I'd much rather more varying artstyles cause tbvh if I wanna see some real sh!t...I'll...GO. OUTSIDE.💀🤷♂️
Theres a reason people praise the artstyles of Spiderverse, Arcane and Puss in Boots so much. Even Nimona. We see real life EVERYday, who cares about "realistic graphics" at this point😂. Just make sure the visuals are on point
its crazy to me how people will see a trailer and immediately decide to try to find something to be mad at, obsessively dissecting a way to be angry. especially over year-old footage, and then some.
16:02 About the side content, I could be wrong but it sounded like he wanted more interaction with the world so like say you’d like to walk to a bench and sit down, or more overall interaction with the world kinda like rdr2. There’s a reason why you have to care for your horse in that game, it immerses you in the world, like let’s say you’d have to repair your suit after an combat encounter but only if you get hit a certain amount. If you don’t repair your suit, you take more damage. It adds more incentive for the player to not get hit and it immerses you in becoming spidey, in that world. I love the first game and miles morales but it did feel way more gamey then I’m used to, if that makes sense? Like the last of us doesn’t feel like a game to me, it’s more like an high level interactive movie. Rdr2 doesn’t really feel like game, it’s just so well polished. My point is interacting with the world builds immersion along with other game mechanics, and tbh spidey 1 and MM have no interaction with world besides the occasional high fives and alerts from civilians
All that sounds fine and dandy for a game like rdr2, but sitting a bench for no reason and having to repair your suit just sounds pointless.
bro forgot about web-swinging and the underground caches-
@@doorsguy177 web swinging 💀💀 bro it’s fun for like 2 hours but after swinging and doing the same repetitive crimes isnt immersive my guy, me personally I’d like the feature to change back to Pete’s every day clothes back to the suit at anytime, and don’t say it’s not possible. This is next/current Gen we’re talking here
Honestly I don't know how people think that the graphics look bad or alright when even in an old build they look amazing.
Before my PS4 went kaput, something I would LOVE to do is I would swing, zip to points point launch, zip to more points, air tricks, etc just to get from point A to point B and it was enjoyable to traverse Manhattan like that
The only concern, or more like a hope, happens in the game is being able to play in the black suit post game and not something that's only available for mid story mode
Dude wants to be that person that's "against the majority" to feel better about himself. Spider-Man 2 is going to be just as fun and enjoyable
i dont think theres gonna be hidden animations maybe for venom suit but the animations are like a tertiary thing to worry about
19:06 he is straight up capping there. I'm getting a part time job just so I can afford the new Spider-Man PS5 coming out
I've spent nearly 800 😢 got bundle & ce
So when ppl say it looks like the same game base on the trailer: "the game haven't come out yet shut up"
But at the same breath this game is making the biggest leap (but casual bring up gow ragnarok) compared to recent games. Over what? Devs comments? Sir you haven't seen the game yet too💀💀💀 insomniac d riding is insane.
This is the same case it was with gow ragnarok, some people complained there was not as much changes as it has been between between gow 3 and 2018. Like bro if something is perfect dont change it, just improve it a bit if its possible😐. Thats how spiderman 2 should be
Well said
Insomniac is one of the few studios that still puts love into their games.
Spider-Man 2: Updated graphics, new supported hardware, new models, updated models, more new areas of New York, new ways to travel than just web-swinging, play as both Miles and Peter and black suit with new gameplay
People: sAME GaMe ThO! ☝️🤓
I spotted it spider man 1 and miles morales are similar
1. both games have super advanced military (sable, roxxon)
2. both games have gang (demons, underground)
3. main villain is friend of spider man (Otto - Peter, Phin/tinkerer - Miles)
the web slinging point from the other dude says a lot of how creative that man is. 0% creativity. The web slinging on this games is just amazing
I personally am not the greatest at the web slinging and I did a lot more than just pressing R2 lol.
I always wondered for the people that said that the gameplay trailer graphics were bad what were they talking about💀from the day the trailer dropped I never noticed any negatives it looked way better
3:58 Great video, but a feedback man, I think in clips like these you should try to increase the volume to match your voice. It's way too low. If it wasn't from the automatic subtitles I wouldn't know what he was saying there lol
I have no issues with the web swinging mechanics. I think it’s fun and I look forward to the wing suit. I do agree with that guy about the side Contant I have never felt compelled to do much of it in any Spider-Man game. I think it’s boring. I hope that’s improved in this game, but other than that, I’m very excited to play new Spider-Man this fall!
people can't just like any game at this point they always have something to complain about.
i can rlly only compare this to cod, cause its all that can come to mind; the difference between saying mw2->mw3 is the same and spiderman games are the same to each other is that the reuse or whatever of assets, animations and more is used to progress a story written with passion for the spidermen game, and cod had to release a new game, cause they always release a new one every year, and didn't have their next one on schedule. Also the major reason that ppl are so mad about the cod "dlc" is that its a min of $70 to play these minor changes which shouldn't affect the company if they lower the price cause of how much money they make on in game transactions; the spiderman games dont have nearly as many purchases, so while it is a high price point, it makes more sense. Also reusing gameplay features makes more sense with a story driven game because the only variable in these games should be the story, which is what you are buying, with a few changes to graphics and whatnot; but with cod, as an arcade shooter, the main differences between the games should absolutely be game mechanics; they need to change the guns, change the movement entirely (jump packs or smth idk), change the maps, the graphics, the ui, the menus, everything. A story game should have its story as the main changing point, with its side stuff more; they should review the story aspect since its the major point of the game
Well yeah the games after the first game should've been dlc's but based on how much I enjoyed spider-man and Miles Morales I'm ok with the fact that its like the first game since I liked it so much. And they did add more factors into the game while adding more villains, As well as the fact that they will have an extension of abilities and skins for miles & peter. Also, the Venom suit will be adding a collection of things to the game probably.
People who want graphical upgrades are just delusional, like you want the game being more realistic than real life?
This just sounds like those people that were complaining about the puddles in the first game
“Whoever the hunter guy is” 💀 you just know this mf only watches the movies
You know he is stupid if he doesn’t know kravens damn name