I waited 5 months for my Mach 1, was there when it drove off the truck, and I can tell you, I've never been anything but ecstatic with the money spent. It's unique, it handles brilliantly, accelerates like a brute, yet can be quiet and relaxed at 5 am in the morning when I'm headed to work. People keep wanting to comment about how they can get a 2020 PP2, put a blower on it, and kick the Mach 1's bum for the same amount of money. I don't care. That's not what this car is about. It's about a new and special take on an already special car. It's fantastic.
Does the PP2 have the longevity or durability and exact performance as the Mach 1, it is mentioned that the Mach 1 has all those advantages and more. Heck you can do the same by putting a blower and beating the PP2 if we want an apples to apples comparison, pricing would be the difference. The cheapest PP2 you COULD get is 45k+, while Mach 1 starts at 52k, put a blower on either and the Mach 1 still beats the PP2 in a race overall but for more money, the more expensive track version is of course... more expensive, but at that point the PP2 has no chance of winning and many other cars in that segment will get demolished by it. Really it's about the difference and special model that makes that difference.
@@sandenium I'm a crypto holder but people like you are annoying af. You don't have to inject crypto into every conversation, he's saying an expression. Let it be
@@sandenium And tell me how much will that crypto be worth when the world goes to shit and the power gets turned off? Cause gold was a precious metal before the internet age and will be after the fall of it
Lol sadly no, have you seen the people that literally walk around in trash bags, and move their legs without using their ankles to preserve shoes. It’s insane.
I came up with a good reason to buy this over a GT, resale value. People who buy Mustangs will definitely pay a lot more for that Mach One name and appearance package. Ford doesn't keep their Mustang special editions around that long and there is definitely a fanbase for the Mach One specifically, just like the one for the Boss 302.
Having owned a car with a Tremec - that transmission alone makes the price hike worth it. I just sold my ct4 blackwing which had the TR6060. Absolutely brilliant. Almost the right car at very much the wrong time. Having FINALLY driven one of these Mach 1s, I see now that I didn't really want the Cadillac. What I really, truly wanted, the whole time, was this 5 liter monster. 1000% worth the cost.
Pretty crazy how you can drive as hard as you want on the street, as long as you don't get caught, and the car is fully covered. But the moment you go to a place that is specifically made for doing just that, the car's warranty is cancelled.
@@lturknett no, that's one person claiming that with Ford. However, Ford's actual warranty states that tracking the car will result in the warranty being voided upon issue.
I test drove one of these mach 1 about two months ago I was very impressed with the performance but the dealer wanted to screw me $10,000 for the privilege of buying one I walked out and never went back.
@@bighands69 I personally don’t agree. Cars are flying off the shelves currently. Went to a GMC dealer and had not a single new truck on the lot. Once a truck arrives it’s already been claimed.
@@djw5415 Dealers have extra costs hence why the vehicles are selling at higher prices. It is just economics 101. So even if Ford could supply a car for cheaper it will have little impact on the lot.
It’s actually the GT500 rear subframe/toe-link. And GT350R suspension (tuned) with all the cooling for the rear-differential, oil and transmission. It’s literally a GT350R 1.5 without the Voodoo.
@@ClickbaitMotorsports which in my book, is perfection. I love the Voodoo, but I'd like to own/drive the Mach 1 for decades to come, and I don't think the Voodoo would provide that kind of longevity.
Once you get a option a GT with magnaride, performance pack etc, it's only about 4k less than a Mach 1. Plus the Mach 1 has that trans and heated/cooled cloth seats (which is almost enough to sell me on it there).
The Mach 1 is all GT350 underneath with a GT500 rear subframe. It’s a really special Mustang, shoulders above any GT variant, and in the same company as the GT350R. TH is throwing shade because Ford didn’t allow track racing.
I wanted the 10r80 so I went with a GT that's pretty much fully loaded. Magneride, PP1, etc. Only thing I don't have is Recaro seats, but I wanted the heated and cooled feature. I don't track my car, so for me it made more sense to get a GT.
nice second review guys. i bought this car in NZ in the only spec we and a lot of other countries in the world only get and that is the Non -HP version. Aussie reviewers have tested that non-hp car on the track and it gets great reviews. I got the Tremac and it is a great transmission compared to my 2016 Gt getrag. From what I've read the no lift shift is not "bad on the transmission " . the car is actually meant to do this and the ECU doesn't allow the engine to over rev whilst shifting at full throttle. this transmission is the one of the reasons that I got the Mach 1 as opposed to a 2021 GT. also the magnaride and specific chassis and steering is different from the GT. and as you said the Mach 1 tradition and name is worth something. as i won't be tracking mine the 3 coolers are redundant. cheers tom
Thomas and James : extra throttle house is a more relaxed version of throttle house Also Thomas and James : spend 30s just stressing to explain what the channel name means
The one thing I wish I could have said to Thomas this entire discussion was that you can't really compare the Mach 1 with the PP2, Bullitt, and to a lesser extent, GT350, if you are talking exclusively about new Mustangs. For the 2021 model year, the PP2, Bullitt and GT350 are no longer available. The Mach 1 is meant to replace these three models with a single model. I think the real discussion to be had is its value as a replacement.
Having the Mach 1 on the Extra channel is a flex on all other car review channels and a slight diss to Ford for not allowing to compete with the Type R.
Blah blah blah price point. In 5 years the Mach 1 is worth every penny paid for it and possibly more, while any version of any plain GT is worth half or less.
The main thing the Mach 1 has over the GT is the Tremec gearbox for the manual transmission option. Super well built. I'm not sure it's worth Ford's premium, but honestly, Ford's been that way about all of their vehicles for quite some time now.
@@a.dudeman7715 Really, it's more afford dealers rather than Ford. Ford needs to bring the er down on greedy dealers. Dodge is starting to have the same problems now.
Cool video! I own a GT350, it is running 753 Whp . It is equipped with a vortech supercharger, and many other mods. (I’m not trying to brag btw, I’m trying to spark a car enthusiast conversation. I say this because I previously had a “problem”.)
hey guys so I just picked up a blue mach 1 2 days ago with the handling package. I'll tell you what, I drove the fully loaded gt and this car is by far a better by even for about 7k more. thr 315's in the rear poke out just a bit and make the car look so wide and aggressive. I came from a stage 3, 2017 focus st and am in love with this mach 1.
The sound is amazing The magna ride is unbelievable, the transmission is just so great, I love the styling, I just really love this car, giggles all around... I don't see why it's better than a GT, I wouldn't buy it🤓🧐🤔
This extra channel - which is like the main channel except they go into things they’re off-topic interested in, in one take,so it’s kinda of like a more casual discussion channel, you know, where they can just really discuss things... - has virtues.
I've got a 2014 Shelby GT500. It's crazy enough to stay interesting with a factory 662 hp. For daily driving I snagged a 2017 Focus RS. So it's gonna take a hell of a car to convince me to trade in one of those.
Both of those cars are amazing!!! I'm leaning towards buying an 07 gt500 in the mid 30k range But also want a focus RS plus more liveability. I have two cars one I could probably get 20k for and my other is my 300+whp mini Cooper r53s with everything too could possibly do and with an upgraded blower and meth on e85
I would NOT get a GT because of all the complaints about the 6 speed. This Mach 1 makes sense. The Voodoo is great but has sooo many issues, with many being replaced by Ford.
Man the MT-82 is the worst transmission I've ever driven. It's clunky, it breaks, and it just doesn't feel smooth almost EVER in my 2017 GT. My clutch AND slave cylinder both blew up at like 15k miles. The springs in the clutch literally shattered and it's not like I do hard launches often.
@@perrytheplatypus4937 Oh I don't regret getting the manual AT ALL. I didn't REALLY know how to drive manual when I bought it, but I also wasn't an idiot and didn't abuse the clutch. I at least knew how manual transmissions worked and that probably helped a bit. As shitty as the MT-82 tranny is, it's still fun as hell and I would 100% still take the MT-82 and all of its problems over an automatic. Don't let not knowing how to drive manual stop you from getting one, I didn't really know what I was doing and still managed to get it an hour and a half back home from the dealership in one piece lmao. It'll take some practice, but once you figure it out, it becomes second nature. There's no better feeling than downshifting and rev-matching manually (I will never use auto rev-match personally, just not as fun). It never gets old blipping the throttle on a downshift.
@@perrytheplatypus4937 Im going to second what Tyler said: don’t let not knowing how to drive a standard stop you from getting it. I didn’t know now to drive a stick when I got my first mustang back in ‘13, but I’m soooo thankful that I did.
I’m jealous of the rev match. I love the customized noise as well. I have the 2021 392 (bag of poo) scat pack lol. Love the video. The Mach has more style than the GT as you guys stated. That sound wow. Bare with me I’m typing while watching. 😂
For me, I'd still have the GT350. As much as I like the Coyote, that Voodoo in the 350 is just one of the best engines ever made. The noise and feel is just in a completely different league.
YES!!! I just cannot get excited about the Mach 1 whereas the GT350 (and the Voodoo engine) just leave me lusting every time I am graced to be in its presence.
This last weekend I drove from Kansas City to Michigan to purchase my new Mach 1 and drove it back! Around 26 hours of driving in less than 48 hours! If I lived closer to you guys I would let you track this one! :-)
Just wanted to thank you guys. I just drove home my GT, one of the last S550s, and this video is what swayed me ultimately. The engine is just amazing, and I love that it was inexpensive and that I still have analog controls in the cabin too. Amazing car, great video.
Downshifting and Rev matching yourself is one of the most enjoyable parts of driving stick: if you have an aftermarket exhaust system than it’s most likely snap, crackle, pop city! Love downshifting my stage 2 STi and rev matching. The pops and bangs are crazy, maybe like 3-5 or 5-8 on average, or sometimes one BANG that sounds like a large firecracker 🧨, and it does it on up shifts sometimes. However, not a fan of over the top tunes that make the car pop and and bang like 20 times on a downshift or just letting off the gas
I was hard on this car when I saw the specs and I wasn't aware of the TREMC gearbox and the new suspension upgrades. This is a MUCH better car then the standard GT with those upgrades. Here in the states its $63Kish its expensive but this should be what the Mustang should of been all along. This car is more than looks the TREMC is worth the price of admission.
Yeah, I dont think they gave enough weight to the Tremec > MT82 part of the equation. I'd get the Mach 1 over a Bullitt, or PP2 (or GT500 - #savethemanuals).
@@R3LF13 not to mention all the suspensions upgrades over the standard GT. I highly doubt you could build this car for what it costs to buy it. And while we all loved the Voodoo engine it has its issues and to be honest, unless your tracking that car there's no place to use all those RPMs.
@@kevinnorwood7355 I almost bought a 17 PP1 and when I didn't I really thought that I would be looking at used GT350s right about now. I haven't decided what I'm actually going to do next, but I am shying away from the Shelby for that reason. I love everything about the voodoo but it makes me nervous. I can't swing a Mach 1, so I'm actually leaning towards the 400z when it comes out or maybe a used SS 1LE Camaro.
@@R3LF13 I think the Tremec is over hyped. After the late 2018 revision the MT-82 is just as reliable, and its weak point is just the shifter. All the 3160 has going for it is the better shifter, bit more aggressive gearing (still nnot as good as the 15-17 MT-82 gearing) and NLS (Really the 15+ cars CAN do NLS some reason Ford just never added the software).
Wow another set of armchair critics that can’t do math. Spec out a GT like a Mach 1 and all of a sudden that $20k is less than $3k. Please try and pay attention.
Would like to see you guys review the S197 platforms, even they are older. How they’ve held up over time. Specifically the 13 Boss 302, which set up for the S550.
So, I just got a 2020 PP2 like 2 months ago, it does have rev match but its missing the tremec the oil cooler and all that! But it was 44k US. used with 1500 miles on it. I think that's 54ish Canadian. It's a steal!
If nothing else, one can instantly tell the difference between a Mach 1 with a Tremic than any GT with the Getrag. That feature makes the price difference worth it.
I agree....I have heard many a reviewer say,,,,,,to get this Transmission alone makes it worth the price. Short of 2024, you cannot get any Coyote 5.0 backed by the Tremec 6speed unless you go Mach1. You have to pay GT350 $$ and add the cost of the 5.2 Voodoo motor. In Summer 2023 used GT350 cars are $55,000-$65,000 AND the upcomming 2024 Darkhorse 5.0 with Tremec 6speed will vault well above $60K with Options (and a year's worth of Dealer "market adjustment' costs!). The buyers of 21-22 Mach1s used their $$ wisely for a well-sorted road AND track car. The smartest 2023 buyers will snatch up the last of the Mach1s AT MSRP (or slightly below) and, like me, will smile and laugh every time they drive and are impressed with the best S550 Ford put out.
The Camaro is one hell of a road weapon, but IMHO it achieves that at the expense of everything else. It is ergonomically deficient, it is ugly, it carries less stuff. It so badly needs a new generation, but GM may have cooked its own goose on that front.
There are so many things about that Camaro that MotorTrend didn't mention tho, even the comments above revealed a few that heavily shows some flaws to their statement. Things that the Mustang outshines the Camaro on are funny enough things that people care about more on a daily basis, which is why the Mustang in general sells better too.
@@vomErsten All subjective based on your needs and oppinon/s. If I need to make a Home Depot run I take the appropriate vehicle. If I want to go really fast and not have to worry about stuff breaking like these unfinished mustangs then I take my SS 1LE. And please spare me any replies about not being unfinished. We all know these cars are works in progress that Ford just keeps fixing and charging customers for the engineering and design that should have been done right when the cars were released and billed as "Track Car".
Voodoo is a treasure but it's a Diva and it's delicate. It shakes and vibrates and it will wear out pretty fast if you pound on it. Predator is on a mission to consume all the gasoline in existence. The "low fuel" light bulb will be the first to fail because it's always turned on. Coyote is like it's namesake, a survivor and is more than stout enough to provide all kinds of trouble if you ask for it.
I agree the predator is a gas burner and the coyote is a survivor, the Voodoo can take a beating aswell tho, it shakes and rattles bc it’s a loosely build engine but it’ll take the same beating as the 5.0… just don’t Turbo it
Niiice description. I own two modern Porsche flat 6 motors, and yes, the burble of V8s is always worthy to put windows down in order to hear them better
Do you guys realize there is a HUGE difference in the Manual trans between Mach1 and regular GT / Bullitt? Mach1 has Tremec 6speed from GT350 which is an amazing trans and fixes the main weak point of Mustang GT. This was a big oversight in this video.
I mean right now from what I looked dealerships near me fully loaded mustangs gt are at 55k while a mach 1 is 57k to 60 k so i might as well just pay a bit more and get a more special car
sLap all those show & shine guys!! I have a 19 pp1 premium a10 3.55 GT Mustang with the killer gauge package. I added keeping full warrantee F P Bullitt tune which is good for engine and great for a10 and also F P Track Pack suspension package which is in between the pp2 and GT350. I put some slightly wider & shorter Goodyear Supercar 3's on f & r, added diff cooler, x pipe, Schroth harnesses, and Steeda Stop-the-Hop IRS kit The Car scoots quite nicely on road course tracks and still very streetable! Needs better brake pads and pp2 wheel & tire setup. It makes a great poor man's GT500, a car I wouldn't own/buy - tires don't last long nor does the gas on the track tho Great for a few Fast laps!!! If you like pp2's but wanted a Souped Up a10 here you are and then some. Ford Performance parts kicked this GT up notch Very nicely
I am someone who is genuinely in the market looking to buy a Mustang and I have it down to either to either a GT then super charging it with a Roush supercharger , a used GT350, or a Mach one.. The issue I have with the mock 1 is that there is some mark up on it so I can get a brand new Mustang GT supercharged and under warranty for 5,000 to $8000 less than the Mach 1.
Just bought my 2021 black Mach 1 today in black with tremec 6 speed and handling pack!! Had the choice between a 2020 Gt 500 used and this, the insurance was crazy for the 500. I’m gonna debadge it and pull off the vinyl stripes and hood sticker. Traded my 2018 gen 2 raptor for it. Have a 250 lariat tremor to replace the gen 2, I really love my raptor but time to move on. There is always the gen 3 type r in a year or so.
I waited 5 months for my Mach 1, was there when it drove off the truck, and I can tell you, I've never been anything but ecstatic with the money spent. It's unique, it handles brilliantly, accelerates like a brute, yet can be quiet and relaxed at 5 am in the morning when I'm headed to work. People keep wanting to comment about how they can get a 2020 PP2, put a blower on it, and kick the Mach 1's bum for the same amount of money. I don't care. That's not what this car is about. It's about a new and special take on an already special car. It's fantastic.
Absolutely right. Congrats on the car!!
Nice!
Does the PP2 have the longevity or durability and exact performance as the Mach 1, it is mentioned that the Mach 1 has all those advantages and more. Heck you can do the same by putting a blower and beating the PP2 if we want an apples to apples comparison, pricing would be the difference. The cheapest PP2 you COULD get is 45k+, while Mach 1 starts at 52k, put a blower on either and the Mach 1 still beats the PP2 in a race overall but for more money, the more expensive track version is of course... more expensive, but at that point the PP2 has no chance of winning and many other cars in that segment will get demolished by it. Really it's about the difference and special model that makes that difference.
@@jamesengelsman9369 Thank you!
Was your 5month wait from date of order to delivery? I want to do the same
James rev-matching shifts while Thomas is trying to talk is gold.
Gold is dead buy crypto
@@sandenium I'm a crypto holder but people like you are annoying af. You don't have to inject crypto into every conversation, he's saying an expression. Let it be
Pretty much every video these guys do is bitcoin....
Yeah nah that doesn't work 🤣
@@Sahbab11 bot.
@@sandenium And tell me how much will that crypto be worth when the world goes to shit and the power gets turned off? Cause gold was a precious metal before the internet age and will be after the fall of it
how funny would it be if they named their main channel “Just Throttle House”
Or this channel, 'and I'm extra throttle house'
It would but it ain't just throttle house it's comedy top especially the intros
It would be, it would be indeed.
Nah, it's gonna be the third channel
When James said "a three way, the best kind" I fucking wheezed
*What do you like about the car?*
*Thomas:* the rims
*James:* the belly pan
I love how they explain this is the Extra channel so we don’t get confused
You boys have the cleanest white sneakers on the planet.
Lol sadly no, have you seen the people that literally walk around in trash bags, and move their legs without using their ankles to preserve shoes.
It’s insane.
Most rappers have cleaner white sneakers.
They wouldn't dream of stepping inside any of the cars they get loaned with dirty shoes on
@@gavinnorris6348 Canadians are a super polite and thoughtful people.
@@DJL78 Im not Canadian and I wouldn't either.
I came up with a good reason to buy this over a GT, resale value. People who buy Mustangs will definitely pay a lot more for that Mach One name and appearance package. Ford doesn't keep their Mustang special editions around that long and there is definitely a fanbase for the Mach One specifically, just like the one for the Boss 302.
Gt350> mach1 tho
But the Boss 302 had a pretty steep advancement over the base Mustang along with the Laguna Seca pack it was just a differeny animal.
Has any 2000+ Mustang held onto it's value though?
@@MrRandomTwat '13 '14 Boss 302. Termis are also appreciating. They'll hit their stride soon, just as fox bodies are currently.
Agreed
You know its extra throttle house when they start talking about 8 ball pool rules
I love how they parked the car inside the donut skid marks as if to make Ford nervous.
Having owned a car with a Tremec - that transmission alone makes the price hike worth it.
I just sold my ct4 blackwing which had the TR6060. Absolutely brilliant. Almost the right car at very much the wrong time.
Having FINALLY driven one of these Mach 1s, I see now that I didn't really want the Cadillac.
What I really, truly wanted, the whole time, was this 5 liter monster.
1000% worth the cost.
Pretty crazy how you can drive as hard as you want on the street, as long as you don't get caught, and the car is fully covered. But the moment you go to a place that is specifically made for doing just that, the car's warranty is cancelled.
www.hagerty.com/media/news/will-your-new-car-warranty-cover-track-driving/
@@lturknett no, that's one person claiming that with Ford. However, Ford's actual warranty states that tracking the car will result in the warranty being voided upon issue.
James’ excessive shifting 😂
Respect.
I saw a Mach 1 on the road very close to y’alls first review. Its definitely stunning in person
Loved seeing the trees whizzing by in that first look while driving. James' "so, shut up" was epic too.
Just curious, how did you guys end up with such a great race track?
They sold their souls to the car Gods
They rent it, The straight pipes use it too
@@mels_life1 Worth it.
@@luisestefes3411 no not the same track i think this is their its their own
I believe I remember Thomas saying he was a racing instructor at this track. Not sure if that’s still the case or if I’m remembering incorrectly.
I test drove one of these mach 1 about two months ago I was very impressed with the performance but the dealer wanted to screw me $10,000 for the privilege of buying one I walked out and never went back.
Dealers have costs to cover and in the current crazy market they are struggling.
Good don’t pay and contribute to this massive mark up over MSRP.
@@bighands69 I personally don’t agree. Cars are flying off the shelves currently. Went to a GMC dealer and had not a single new truck on the lot. Once a truck arrives it’s already been claimed.
@@djw5415
Dealers have extra costs hence why the vehicles are selling at higher prices. It is just economics 101.
So even if Ford could supply a car for cheaper it will have little impact on the lot.
@@bighands69 so that’s justifiable for a 40% markup over MSRP on a corvette C8?!
The intros and outros are amazing please never stop
Mach 1 has the tranny from the GT350, though, Much better than the manual in the base GT.
Yep, a regular GT, get the auto. Mach 1 manual with Tremec.
I was gonna say that. The base GT's manual is dogshit from what I recall.
Yeah the GT has just a brutal manual tranny.
I hear even the auto on the GT is crappy
@@tomaslopez2940 IMO the ten speed is great. Super engaging, with the short ratios. Not a DCT, but up there with the best autos on the market.
Also has gt350 subframe, alot of small details left out. The transmission is also dependable.
It’s actually the GT500 rear subframe/toe-link. And GT350R suspension (tuned) with all the cooling for the rear-differential, oil and transmission. It’s literally a GT350R 1.5 without the Voodoo.
@@ClickbaitMotorsports which in my book, is perfection.
I love the Voodoo, but I'd like to own/drive the Mach 1 for decades to come, and I don't think the Voodoo would provide that kind of longevity.
Once you get a option a GT with magnaride, performance pack etc, it's only about 4k less than a Mach 1. Plus the Mach 1 has that trans and heated/cooled cloth seats (which is almost enough to sell me on it there).
But there’s still options to add (tech, upgraded seats) to the Mach 1. It’s a huge price jump
@@AS-oo4gv buy certified pre owned and get it for 50k
Plus the GT has a shit transmission
The Mach 1 is all GT350 underneath with a GT500 rear subframe. It’s a really special Mustang, shoulders above any GT variant, and in the same company as the GT350R. TH is throwing shade because Ford didn’t allow track racing.
I wanted the 10r80 so I went with a GT that's pretty much fully loaded. Magneride, PP1, etc. Only thing I don't have is Recaro seats, but I wanted the heated and cooled feature. I don't track my car, so for me it made more sense to get a GT.
nice second review guys. i bought this car in NZ in the only spec we and a lot of other countries in the world only get and that is the Non -HP version. Aussie reviewers have tested that non-hp car on the track and it gets great reviews. I got the Tremac and it is a great transmission compared to my 2016 Gt getrag. From what I've read the no lift shift is not "bad on the transmission " . the car is actually meant to do this and the ECU doesn't allow the engine to over rev whilst shifting at full throttle. this transmission is the one of the reasons that I got the Mach 1 as opposed to a 2021 GT. also the magnaride and specific chassis and steering is different from the GT. and as you said the Mach 1 tradition and name is worth something. as i won't be tracking mine the 3 coolers are redundant. cheers tom
Thomas and James : extra throttle house is a more relaxed version of throttle house
Also Thomas and James : spend 30s just stressing to explain what the channel name means
The one thing I wish I could have said to Thomas this entire discussion was that you can't really compare the Mach 1 with the PP2, Bullitt, and to a lesser extent, GT350, if you are talking exclusively about new Mustangs. For the 2021 model year, the PP2, Bullitt and GT350 are no longer available. The Mach 1 is meant to replace these three models with a single model. I think the real discussion to be had is its value as a replacement.
and james's point was..if im spending 75k ( Canadian) on a mustang..i would just get a fairly used gt 350 which is bout the same price
@@samuelreid603 I would too! But if we're talking exclusively about new cars, they shouldn't be compared like that
Having the Mach 1 on the Extra channel is a flex on all other car review channels and a slight diss to Ford for not allowing to compete with the Type R.
You're guys ending to the videos on extra are awesome!! Please keep it up!
Love how these videos end. Watching, almost, just for that reason.
So happy to hear someone finally speaking to how ridiculous the price point is.
Blah blah blah price point. In 5 years the Mach 1 is worth every penny paid for it and possibly more, while any version of any plain GT is worth half or less.
The main thing the Mach 1 has over the GT is the Tremec gearbox for the manual transmission option. Super well built. I'm not sure it's worth Ford's premium, but honestly, Ford's been that way about all of their vehicles for quite some time now.
@@a.dudeman7715 Really, it's more afford dealers rather than Ford. Ford needs to bring the er down on greedy dealers. Dodge is starting to have the same problems now.
Oh my next car in a throttle house review...yesss
The tremec transmission alone makes this car worth it over the Catastrophy MT-82
It's a crime that one can't option this trans on the regular GT.
the 18+ MT-82 has no issues with it. So that statements not been an issue for 3yrs.
@@KeithSchwerin their feel is also miles apart.
The tremec is good to shift vs the vague mt82
BING BING BING
Thats why if you got just a standard GT, the 10 speed is the best option in everyway
0:31 I bet James thinks that the best kind of limited-slip is also a 3-way
Cool video! I own a GT350, it is running 753 Whp . It is equipped with a vortech supercharger, and many other mods. (I’m not trying to brag btw, I’m trying to spark a car enthusiast conversation. I say this because I previously had a “problem”.)
How’s it holding up
Now i wanna buy one just to let Thomas and James test it on the track!
hey guys so I just picked up a blue mach 1 2 days ago with the handling package. I'll tell you what, I drove the fully loaded gt and this car is by far a better by even for about 7k more. thr 315's in the rear poke out just a bit and make the car look so wide and aggressive. I came from a stage 3, 2017 focus st and am in love with this mach 1.
5:53 "I'm never sober" lmao
The sound is amazing The magna ride is unbelievable, the transmission is just so great, I love the styling, I just really love this car, giggles all around... I don't see why it's better than a GT, I wouldn't buy it🤓🧐🤔
Those endings… 🤣🤣🤣
I love your videos! Everything a car review should be. Both here and on your main channel!
Would it pain you guys to know that I'm watching more of this channel than your main?
This extra channel - which is like the main channel except they go into things they’re off-topic interested in, in one take,so it’s kinda of like a more casual discussion channel, you know, where they can just really discuss things... - has virtues.
Yep
I've got a 2014 Shelby GT500. It's crazy enough to stay interesting with a factory 662 hp. For daily driving I snagged a 2017 Focus RS. So it's gonna take a hell of a car to convince me to trade in one of those.
Who said trade in? Just buy a 3rd one
Both of those cars are amazing!!! I'm leaning towards buying an 07 gt500 in the mid 30k range
But also want a focus RS plus more liveability.
I have two cars one I could probably get 20k for and my other is my 300+whp mini Cooper r53s with everything too could possibly do and with an upgraded blower and meth on e85
I would NOT get a GT because of all the complaints about the 6 speed. This Mach 1 makes sense. The Voodoo is great but has sooo many issues, with many being replaced by Ford.
Man the MT-82 is the worst transmission I've ever driven. It's clunky, it breaks, and it just doesn't feel smooth almost EVER in my 2017 GT. My clutch AND slave cylinder both blew up at like 15k miles. The springs in the clutch literally shattered and it's not like I do hard launches often.
When I get my GT I’m getting the 10 Speed, iv heard good things about the transmission and I don’t know how to drive manual so it’s perfect for me lol
@@perrytheplatypus4937 Oh I don't regret getting the manual AT ALL. I didn't REALLY know how to drive manual when I bought it, but I also wasn't an idiot and didn't abuse the clutch. I at least knew how manual transmissions worked and that probably helped a bit. As shitty as the MT-82 tranny is, it's still fun as hell and I would 100% still take the MT-82 and all of its problems over an automatic. Don't let not knowing how to drive manual stop you from getting one, I didn't really know what I was doing and still managed to get it an hour and a half back home from the dealership in one piece lmao. It'll take some practice, but once you figure it out, it becomes second nature. There's no better feeling than downshifting and rev-matching manually (I will never use auto rev-match personally, just not as fun). It never gets old blipping the throttle on a downshift.
@@perrytheplatypus4937 Im going to second what Tyler said: don’t let not knowing how to drive a standard stop you from getting it. I didn’t know now to drive a stick when I got my first mustang back in ‘13, but I’m soooo thankful that I did.
Why won’t Ford let you track it? That seems odd, unless of course James was driving. 😀
I thought about not watching the whole video but then I remembered the cut off endings of these are absolutely brilliant 😂🥰
The hard cuts at the end never get old
I’m jealous of the rev match. I love the customized noise as well. I have the 2021 392 (bag of poo) scat pack lol. Love the video. The Mach has more style than the GT as you guys stated. That sound wow. Bare with me I’m typing while watching. 😂
For me, I'd still have the GT350. As much as I like the Coyote, that Voodoo in the 350 is just one of the best engines ever made. The noise and feel is just in a completely different league.
YES!!! I just cannot get excited about the Mach 1 whereas the GT350 (and the Voodoo engine) just leave me lusting every time I am graced to be in its presence.
Too bad the first like 3yrs the engine was made of glass though but the sound nonetheless is nearly unrivaled
76,000 is too much for that car considering u can get a slightly used gt350 in the mid to high 50s here in the states
76k Canadian equates to a fair bit less in USD. So it’s not quite as expensive in the states
@@motownkittens4905 true but it would still be upper 60s in the states
This last weekend I drove from Kansas City to Michigan to purchase my new Mach 1 and drove it back! Around 26 hours of driving in less than 48 hours! If I lived closer to you guys I would let you track this one! :-)
Hell yeah man. If a guy in a Giulia gives you a thumbs up, it was me
@@AlumarsX I’ll keep an eye out!! 👍
Just wanted to thank you guys. I just drove home my GT, one of the last S550s, and this video is what swayed me ultimately. The engine is just amazing, and I love that it was inexpensive and that I still have analog controls in the cabin too. Amazing car, great video.
Love the Lancia t-shirt, this is a true car geek :D
Looks like a gulf livery. Love it
By far my favorite S550 Mustang!
The voodoo is great... Right before it 💥💥💥
Ummmm, 60 grand, payments for 8 years...🤔. Will they even have gas stations in 5 years in California. Or will it be like Mad Max.
Move to the country.
Is there a parallel universe where the Ford Mustang GT350 or Mach 1 captures his heart as a budget BMW M4 or M2?
Downshifting and Rev matching yourself is one of the most enjoyable parts of driving stick: if you have an aftermarket exhaust system than it’s most likely snap, crackle, pop city! Love downshifting my stage 2 STi and rev matching. The pops and bangs are crazy, maybe like 3-5 or 5-8 on average, or sometimes one BANG that sounds like a large firecracker 🧨, and it does it on up shifts sometimes. However, not a fan of over the top tunes that make the car pop and and bang like 20 times on a downshift or just letting off the gas
I agree! Working on mproving your rev matching is fun as well. That down shift BANG tickles my taint cause you never know when it'll appear.
The endings and beginnings of their shows
I was hard on this car when I saw the specs and I wasn't aware of the TREMC gearbox and the new suspension upgrades. This is a MUCH better car then the standard GT with those upgrades.
Here in the states its $63Kish its expensive but this should be what the Mustang should of been all along.
This car is more than looks the TREMC is worth the price of admission.
Yeah, I dont think they gave enough weight to the Tremec > MT82 part of the equation. I'd get the Mach 1 over a Bullitt, or PP2 (or GT500 - #savethemanuals).
@@R3LF13 not to mention all the suspensions upgrades over the standard GT. I highly doubt you could build this car for what it costs to buy it. And while we all loved the Voodoo engine it has its issues and to be honest, unless your tracking that car there's no place to use all those RPMs.
@@kevinnorwood7355 I almost bought a 17 PP1 and when I didn't I really thought that I would be looking at used GT350s right about now. I haven't decided what I'm actually going to do next, but I am shying away from the Shelby for that reason. I love everything about the voodoo but it makes me nervous. I can't swing a Mach 1, so I'm actually leaning towards the 400z when it comes out or maybe a used SS 1LE Camaro.
@@R3LF13 what about the PP2? you would be missing out on the TREMC but it's a damn good car.
@@R3LF13 I think the Tremec is over hyped. After the late 2018 revision the MT-82 is just as reliable, and its weak point is just the shifter. All the 3160 has going for it is the better shifter, bit more aggressive gearing (still nnot as good as the 15-17 MT-82 gearing) and NLS (Really the 15+ cars CAN do NLS some reason Ford just never added the software).
"3 way, the best kinda way" - James 2021 🤙
The reason I want the mach 1 is for tr-3160 , since normal GT getrag is a pile of garbage. The mach 1 is over priced.
Thats a $20,000 transmission
@@jpogigtxcr1778 It's a $5k trans at most. Source: Google
@@thegirthquake8574 price of the car considered is what he meant
Generic Memes So tell me, where's the rest of the $20,000 go?🤣
Wow another set of armchair critics that can’t do math. Spec out a GT like a Mach 1 and all of a sudden that $20k is less than $3k. Please try and pay attention.
Would like to see you guys review the S197 platforms, even they are older. How they’ve held up over time. Specifically the 13 Boss 302, which set up for the S550.
This is the best looking mustang
So, I just got a 2020 PP2 like 2 months ago, it does have rev match but its missing the tremec the oil cooler and all that! But it was 44k US. used with 1500 miles on it. I think that's 54ish Canadian. It's a steal!
If nothing else, one can instantly tell the difference between a Mach 1 with a Tremic than any GT with the Getrag. That feature makes the price difference worth it.
I agree....I have heard many a reviewer say,,,,,,to get this Transmission alone makes it worth the price. Short of 2024, you cannot get any Coyote 5.0 backed by the Tremec 6speed unless you go Mach1. You have to pay GT350 $$ and add the cost of the 5.2 Voodoo motor. In Summer 2023 used GT350 cars are $55,000-$65,000 AND the upcomming 2024 Darkhorse 5.0 with Tremec 6speed will vault well above $60K with Options (and a year's worth of Dealer "market adjustment' costs!). The buyers of 21-22 Mach1s used their $$ wisely for a well-sorted road AND track car. The smartest 2023 buyers will snatch up the last of the Mach1s AT MSRP (or slightly below) and, like me, will smile and laugh every time they drive and are impressed with the best S550 Ford put out.
The Motor Trend comparison results make the price a little more palatable.
70k for a mustang, HELL NO.
Track times? How'd it fare?
@@ShadowGodOfDarkness www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/
@@postictal7846 thanks bruv
Like motor trend said there's one wrench in the mustang game it's the Camaro SS 1LE it's cheaper and it's been a hell of a sports car since 2016
And I'm a Chevy guy but you can't see out of it
The Camaro is one hell of a road weapon, but IMHO it achieves that at the expense of everything else. It is ergonomically deficient, it is ugly, it carries less stuff. It so badly needs a new generation, but GM may have cooked its own goose on that front.
There are so many things about that Camaro that MotorTrend didn't mention tho, even the comments above revealed a few that heavily shows some flaws to their statement. Things that the Mustang outshines the Camaro on are funny enough things that people care about more on a daily basis, which is why the Mustang in general sells better too.
You forgot to include this... www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/ you're welcome!
@@vomErsten All subjective based on your needs and oppinon/s. If I need to make a Home Depot run I take the appropriate vehicle. If I want to go really fast and not have to worry about stuff breaking like these unfinished mustangs then I take my SS 1LE. And please spare me any replies about not being unfinished. We all know these cars are works in progress that Ford just keeps fixing and charging customers for the engineering and design that should have been done right when the cars were released and billed as "Track Car".
You can see Thomas grinning as James' says three way 😂
1:36 reminded me of James Acaster's "Finders keepers shut up!
Nice Mustang! I would like to own one some day!!
I personally love the body style of the '67 - '68 Mustang better.
I love the cut offs on these videos lol
Voodoo is a treasure but it's a Diva and it's delicate. It shakes and vibrates and it will wear out pretty fast if you pound on it. Predator is on a mission to consume all the gasoline in existence. The "low fuel" light bulb will be the first to fail because it's always turned on. Coyote is like it's namesake, a survivor and is more than stout enough to provide all kinds of trouble if you ask for it.
I agree the predator is a gas burner and the coyote is a survivor, the Voodoo can take a beating aswell tho, it shakes and rattles bc it’s a loosely build engine but it’ll take the same beating as the 5.0… just don’t Turbo it
Niiice description. I own two modern Porsche flat 6 motors, and yes, the burble of V8s is always worthy to put windows down in order to hear them better
Soooooo gorgeous!! That color is fantastic!!!
What did you do? "I didn't" 😂😂
"Just" out of curiosity, why did the video end when the conversation was getting so much better???🤣
James enjoying his shift is absolutely the best thing to watch for...😜😜
he's mastered the automatic rev match, but he didn't do the no lift shift.
Extra throttle house is awesome! Can't watch til the end, because you don't record til the end! I think the reason is
Is that a Lancia Delta Integrale gauge cluster t-shirt?!
been trying to figure that out for a while. If they sold this shirt, they don't anymore, but it looks cool as hell.
Extra throttle house = Me laughing my a** off
Do you guys realize there is a HUGE difference in the Manual trans between Mach1 and regular GT / Bullitt? Mach1 has Tremec 6speed from GT350 which is an amazing trans and fixes the main weak point of Mustang GT. This was a big oversight in this video.
The same trans as 2.0T ATS and V6 Camaro, with ratio differences.
I'm surprised that Thomas wasn't bigger on this car considering how biased he is towards cars that have track driving acumen.
Man, that Mustang sounds good. Especially for stock. By the way, nice Delta Integrale gauge shirt!
Bwahahahaha the outro was the best!!!!
At Extra Extra Throttle House you get to hear the end of the toilet paper story... LOL:)
You haven't reviewed the ecoboost high performance pack. Would love to see the review.
Same here! Need to see if it’s better than a turbo 1le
I'm just glad it has a body color painted bumper
You haven’t done the v6 mustang 😞
James, showing off the guns! Way to come out of the pandemic!
Love the Lancia Delta Integrale Shirt!!!
4:00 that Kirsten camera chick got some nice lens flare
I’m getting a Mach 1 in FJG with the handling package this week and I live in the GTA you guys can track it I’d love for it to be in a video!
That car looks sweet af.
I mean right now from what I looked dealerships near me fully loaded mustangs gt are at 55k while a mach 1 is 57k to 60 k so i might as well just pay a bit more and get a more special car
Fist Body for sure my favorite Gen just look at the beautiful beast
sLap all those show & shine guys!!
I have a 19 pp1 premium a10 3.55 GT Mustang with the killer gauge package. I added keeping full warrantee F P Bullitt tune which is good for engine and great for a10 and also F P Track Pack suspension package which is in between the pp2 and GT350. I put some slightly wider & shorter Goodyear Supercar 3's on f & r, added diff cooler, x pipe, Schroth harnesses, and Steeda Stop-the-Hop IRS kit
The Car scoots quite nicely on road course tracks and still very streetable! Needs better brake pads and pp2 wheel & tire setup. It makes a great poor man's GT500, a car I wouldn't own/buy - tires don't last long nor does the gas on the track tho Great for a few Fast laps!!! If you like pp2's but wanted a Souped Up a10 here you are and then some. Ford Performance parts kicked this GT up notch Very nicely
I am someone who is genuinely in the market looking to buy a Mustang and I have it down to either to either a GT then super charging it with a Roush supercharger , a used GT350, or a Mach one.. The issue I have with the mock 1 is that there is some mark up on it so I can get a brand new Mustang GT supercharged and under warranty for 5,000 to $8000 less than the Mach 1.
The mach 1 front end grill styling is from the Focus RS
Love the orange and gray
fun video, thanks fellas... wow new shoes?
Welcome to 😁 another episode of
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James - you gettin' some guns there dude? Sun's out - guns out.
Just bought my 2021 black Mach 1 today in black with tremec 6 speed and handling pack!! Had the choice between a 2020 Gt 500 used and this, the insurance was crazy for the 500. I’m gonna debadge it and pull off the vinyl stripes and hood sticker. Traded my 2018 gen 2 raptor for it. Have a 250 lariat tremor to replace the gen 2, I really love my raptor but time to move on. There is always the gen 3 type r in a year or so.