Mustang Mach 1: Best Mustang GT Ever? - Two Takes

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    The new Mustang Mach 1 is what we call a "parts bin special." Sometimes that's bad, but in this case, that's very very good. It has the 480HP Coyote V8 from the BULLITT, the subframes, transmission, and suspension tuning from the GT350, and it has the cooling capacity of the GT500. Depending on how you slice it, it's either the best Mustang GT ever made, or it's a Shelby GT350 without the engine warranty claims. (Don't be mad at us, Shelby people - we love the Voodoo engine, but we all know it's problematic in practice). Optional equipment on our tester includes leather trimmed Recaro bucket seats, the "Handling Package," and Bang & Olufsen stereo.
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  • @pascutia
    @pascutia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    So happy Ford did this car. It’s got the good manual transmission, the awesome suspension/steering from the GT350, and it’s more affordable than the GT350 was. Winner for me. So much better than a GT.

    • @alex_k1410
      @alex_k1410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed, no Getrag MT-82!

    • @chrish9502
      @chrish9502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      So much better? I know the mt82 isn’t the greatest but with rebates I can get roughly 2 stripper gt’s for the price of one mach 1, which will likely not have any rebates, rather some ADM. for near shelby prices, I want the dedicated shelby powerplant and prowess that put that car at the top of everyone’s dream list for the last 5 years.

    • @ryanwells5303
      @ryanwells5303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not in the used market

    • @alex_k1410
      @alex_k1410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@chrish9502 A lawsuit against Ford is taking place because of how poor the MT-82 is. So there’s that.

    • @whizkid235
      @whizkid235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@chrish9502 agreed. With some slight mods the mt82 is a good transmission for daily and spirited driving. Also agree how this is way too expensive. For the price I’d much rather get a gt350, I’m sure they’ll have way better resell value than these Mach 1’s

  • @leecountyrevival1095
    @leecountyrevival1095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Can't believe they didn't make a Coyote joke when it crossed the road while in a Mustang!! lol

    • @darienlux4735
      @darienlux4735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What would the joke have been?

    • @NickelArcade123
      @NickelArcade123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Coyote engine ?

    • @AZBEEMR
      @AZBEEMR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They’re not that quick. (the announcers not the animals)

    • @JARface11
      @JARface11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There’s a coyote!…. Under the hood with 480 hp etc.

    • @CheezeCracker
      @CheezeCracker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Where are all your friends?
      480 of em' right here!

  • @kylem324
    @kylem324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    I care about Steve McQueen and I’m a millennial. I drive a Bullitt in the hopes that one day, my father who idolizes McQueen will acknowledge my existence.

    • @TheSmokingTire
      @TheSmokingTire  2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      hahahahahahahah

    • @mikehertz6507
      @mikehertz6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well, he's not your real dad.

    • @Krushe
      @Krushe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Enjoy the Car, the other can be over rated

    • @millll111lllI
      @millll111lllI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought the 08/09 Bullitt was really cool even without knowing anything about McQueen and I was 19 when it came out.

    • @markr.9626
      @markr.9626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love this guy's videos, but this dude gets a little too big for his britches... Knocking McQueen (who would have kicked his ass) and that Mustang 10 speed is a foolish thing. Why knock the same tranny Chevy uses? No one carries a stick anymore except Ford in this car and a few other manufacturers. And you are right, the Tremec is the best.

  • @johnspears6813
    @johnspears6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Mach 1, two takes, three pedals. Perfect.

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cant want more in 2021 N/A 5l V8 with manual in europe people can dream of owning muscle cars because of huge tax and fuel prices.

    • @johnspears6813
      @johnspears6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      4 cup 2s, 5 liters, 6 gears. Perfect

    • @aestheticsdesign1095
      @aestheticsdesign1095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chris-hw4mq this car in portugal coust 115.000 Euros something like 120.000 dolars

    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I had a gun to my head and I only could get a V6 Mustang with a stick and a V8 with automatic, I would get the V6 with the stick. I will never own another automatic car again....I have been red pilled. It is a shame they have that garbage turbo 4 as the entry engine. The V6 was really good for the 2013 and 2014 Model years....maybe too good so they got rid of it.

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fortheloveofnoise9298 between a garbage MT82 and a 10 speed I would take the 10 speed every day. In europe 4 cylinders mustangs are very popular because here fuel is expenssive and tax from gouverments is big on 5L engines.

  • @highjix
    @highjix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Talking about people not using their mirrors, I used to drive my Corvette to work daily because it was more fun then my Lincoln, I used to park out in boonsville at work, one day I cam out and found someone parked so close to my car that I couldn't open the door without hitting their mirror on the drivers side. so I simply closed their mirror and went about my day.
    a few days later I saw this same suv go past and the drivers side mirror was still closed, so in all that time they had never noticed the mirror was closed, or if they did they never made an attempt to open it back up. I am going with they didn't ever use their mirrors and when they changed lanes they did it out of blind leaps of faith.
    This was in the Atlanta area right off of I 285, so it's fast moving heavy traffic

    • @certifiedlawnpros
      @certifiedlawnpros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Atl area? My guess is a hoochi mamma tapping her weave while driving way to fast for conditions and blindly merging for no reason but to get stuck in traffic.

    • @draco2xx
      @draco2xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@certifiedlawnpros lmfao 🤣 got me with the weave part

  • @dannyhoward3437
    @dannyhoward3437 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My 22 Mach 1 HP drives very similarly to my 18 GT350, and that’s why I love it. The only thing missing is that flat plane crank insane noise.

  • @fullthrill7314
    @fullthrill7314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve put 50k miles on my ‘17 GT with the MT-82 and have no complaints. I love driving it. It’s my first and only manual though so I don’t have anything to compare it to.

  • @Dsaubt
    @Dsaubt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think with the upgrade to the tremec and the reliability of the coyote the Mach 1 is a really appealing car. I think as an everyday car for a lot of people it makes more sense than a GT350, as special as it is.

  • @JeffLacina
    @JeffLacina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You didn't mention it, so you must've had the down-shift rev match setting turned off. I got to spend a couple days at Road Atlanta with the Mach 1 back in April, and I was thoroughly impressed with the accuracy of the auto rev-match, even when trying to fool it by going 5-3 downshift at turn 10A. It got the revs right every time. And yes, I agree: this is a wonderful mix of GT350 and Coyote goodness. And the fighter jet gray is an awesome color.

  • @stromm73
    @stromm73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Traded in my PP2 and couldn’t be happier with this M1-and no overheating diff now!
    Great review and spot on.

  • @donovanq4887
    @donovanq4887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    just ordered my mach 1 today!

  • @agentcooper4627
    @agentcooper4627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If Zack could lend Matt half his hair follicles, they would still both have a full head of hair.

  • @michaeln.7083
    @michaeln.7083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a 15 GT with roush blower which puts more weight over the front end a little chassis bracing and a good clutch, Ben calimer built MT82 and a RST clutch 650whp.. it takes it all day the best part is it does need atleast a 275 front I run 305 square on track though it is a impressive car and powertrain for sure love the show..

  • @davidlopez991
    @davidlopez991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a regular GT, for the mt-82 I added a Blowfish support brace for the shifter, the Boomba racing transmission support and replaced the transmission oil with full synthetic. Those fixes do alot to mitigate the issues with the MT-82 and I spent a hell of a lot less for my Mustang. That and alot of Steeda suspension bits and its much better value proposition than a Mach 1 at around 40k including aftermarket wheels and tires included in that price.

  • @CouchMan88
    @CouchMan88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Matt loved the Fiesta ST, I bought it. Matt loves the Mach 1, I bought it.

  • @PointShiftDrive
    @PointShiftDrive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You guys do great reviews together. Keep up the good work!

  • @twarken5078
    @twarken5078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I owned a GT350 from new in 2016 to 2018, used daily for business and pleasure, covered 52k miles during that time, and whilst I loved the car it was not without fault.
    In that time it needed 2 new long blocks (1 @ 3.5kmls and 1 @ 32kmls) & new gearbox (@ 38kmls) all fitted under warranty, Ford dealership service was poor at best, and the engine used 1qt of oil every 500-750mls (I kept an average of 10qts in that trunk at all times) without fail for the entire time I owned it, even with the new engine rebuilds.
    The only mods/upgrades I did to my car were resonator delete and MGW shifter kit (highly recommend). Aside from using it every day the best road trips were tail of the dragon and East Coast to West Coast and back in 5 days.
    As I say, I loved that car but it always felt a bit too delicate to me and I felt like I was left high and dry with Fords customer service during my ownership.
    Love this iteration of Mustang, and this looks like the one to buy, but I won’t be returning to Ford again sadly after my ownership experience.

    • @ClaytonYatescarenthusiast
      @ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your story is the story of the gt350 and everyone still looks the other way. I have no idea how ford managed it but they did and kept the image strong.

    • @brandonbonfanti5417
      @brandonbonfanti5417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And that’s why this car will be a great car and hold some good value. It’s a reliable gt350 basically

    • @FrenchAmericanTravel
      @FrenchAmericanTravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm right there with you with beyond atrocious customer service from Ford. I had been a loyal Ford fan since my first car (08 V6 Pony Package). My last one was a '16 5.0 that turned out to be a lemon and was eventually purchased back by Ford. Prior to them buying it back from me, I was:
      -lied to about "services rendered" by two different Ford dealerships (my dashcam showed that the car sat in the same spot for three days with no one touching it)
      - had frivolous "repair attempts" conducted so that they could profit off of them by cheating out Ford HQ ( for instance told me it was an intake manifold issue, which I knew for a fact it wasn't)
      - a service tech drove my car 83 miles even though it was in for a potential engine issue, and so much more. I eventually found a dealer over an hour away from my location that was willing to take a real look at my car. Turns out that the engine was actually chewing itself up (the notorious coyote "tick" is quite real....), resulting in severe pitting of the camshaft, metal in the cylinder heads, and much more. A repair was done under warranty, but the issue returned only a month later. Seeing as my car had been at a dealer for "repairs" for a cumulative total of 6 months, I decided to part ways with it.
      Once again, what should have been a simple process turned out to be a 2 month long ordeal. All Ford had to do was use a simple formula to determine the buy-back price (due to being in CA, and which they eventually did), but the lemon "rep" I was dealing with over the phone was an absolute dunce.
      Long story short, I took the $40+K I received for the buy-back, and purchased a low mileage 08 Z06 (which now has h/c/i) to pair with my '16 Z06. So definitely made lemonade out of lemons (pun intended). That whole experience made me go from being a true Ford fan, to never wanting to own a Ford vehicle again, even though I was seriously considering purchasing a GT350 as a replacement (until I read about everything you just listed). At least Chevy rolls out the "red-carpet" if you're a 'Vette owner. *rant over*

    • @culturebound.
      @culturebound. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrenchAmericanTravel Hey buddy, sorry to resurrect an old comment but I am considering buying a Mach 1 or a GT and I’m in California. What dealership was it so I can avoid them like the fucking plague lol

  • @mellowness65
    @mellowness65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2021 Mach 1: the S550 Greatest Hits album

  • @Destoryer2765
    @Destoryer2765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Matt and Zak thank you for your awesome videos!!!

  • @subhanusaxena7199
    @subhanusaxena7199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video, in the UK models we have lumbar adjustment and independent suspension setting. You can go into a customise feature to do it

  • @BuckingBronco
    @BuckingBronco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great ride along. Appreciated your commentary. Well done. Thanks for posting.

  • @thomasmrozovich7631
    @thomasmrozovich7631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Me: I'm going to save some money this year.
    Also Me: I'm going to buy this car.

  • @jrag1000
    @jrag1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    “It's got 454 with 4-on- the-floor, full house and a blower."

    • @AZBEEMR
      @AZBEEMR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ?

    • @pukavoket
      @pukavoket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AZBEEMR It's an old saying...cars in the late sixties/70's.

    • @jrag1000
      @jrag1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AZBEEMR ha, it’s also from a movie.

    • @austinpowers1700
      @austinpowers1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Little deuce coupe beach boys, “and she’s purrs like a kitten when the legs pipe roar “

    • @bits_for_bytes
      @bits_for_bytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3 on the tree

  • @evalonious
    @evalonious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Coyote crosses Coyote like 2 ships passing....its your animal spirit guide telling you to buy one.

  • @bobbyrios2k223
    @bobbyrios2k223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Holy moly, now this is a badass mustang! Love it!

  • @John1911
    @John1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When asked about Steve McQueen most Millennials would say they loved the video of him yodeling at the Live Aid concert.
    😎

  • @Nelbone
    @Nelbone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    My initial thoughts were that this was going to be a PP2 with an appearance package. All the Shelby bits makes this a little more special. Saw one in person recently and I thought it looked fantastic.

    • @mjcmustang
      @mjcmustang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The only time Ford ever did a parts bin car right. Still heavy though, like all S550s are

    • @Nelbone
      @Nelbone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@mjcmustang don’t talk to me about heavy. I drive a scat pack

    • @mjcmustang
      @mjcmustang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nelbone 😂😂😂

    • @DouEditz
      @DouEditz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Never see scat owners commenting like this 😂 👍🏾

    • @Nelbone
      @Nelbone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@DouEditz yea I’m not the one that thinks rainbow headlights is a build and intersection donuts are cool.

  • @viktor8614
    @viktor8614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nice car but damn it’s just too expensive

  • @mikegcm
    @mikegcm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have that exact car on order and can't wait to take delivery! Classic Design Concepts does make a functional shaker system for this car now.

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I've owned 2 Mustang GTs with the MT82. The transmission itself isn't that bad. There's a huge misconception that the transmission is the main problem. The primary issue is the stock shift linkage, which is absolute garbage. The MGW kit replaces the entire linkage, and makes it feel 100x better.

    • @scottnewellguitar
      @scottnewellguitar ปีที่แล้ว

      Nailed it

    • @JR10_RR
      @JR10_RR หลายเดือนก่อน

      The clutch is the problem. Stock shifter not great either, but the clutch lockout at high rpm is when causes missed/grinding shifts

  • @baloonia1
    @baloonia1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Camera you are using makes really good video.
    Love the car and the review.

  • @godsaveamerica2611
    @godsaveamerica2611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When spec’ed correctly it’s a beautiful mustang 😍

  • @jrvbamafan1
    @jrvbamafan1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought a 2022 mach 1 premium minus the handling package. I can't afford to buy a set of 2 grand tires every 5k miles... My 9th mustang in the past 23 years...very pleased so far. Had a 2017 gt prior to this. I was one of the fortunate ones I guess. Put around 42k miles on it and the mt-82 was still like butter when I traded it. I was surprised after reading some of the horror stories about it. Only have about 1200 miles on the mach so far, but definitely loving it so far...the engine problems with the 350 made me a little wary of it

  • @CP-db4rm
    @CP-db4rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pretty good car, but a bit overpriced by 5-8k. Camaro 2SS 1LE is 8k less then Mach 1 with the handling package.

  • @northgeorgiagaragedoor568
    @northgeorgiagaragedoor568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The research bro!! Much respect

  • @kaiserashkaiserash8162
    @kaiserashkaiserash8162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best review of this car I have seen not date, top job guys 👍🏻

  • @RNMAutomotiveAddiction
    @RNMAutomotiveAddiction ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review - just got my Mach 1 and the Tremec is a joy to shift. I agree the clutch travel is a bit long.

  • @kelliekeirl9434
    @kelliekeirl9434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My gt in Aussie has got lumbar support in the recaro on the drivers side only.
    Great job on video really well explained

  • @albertbell6576
    @albertbell6576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great review guys!

  • @jasons2562
    @jasons2562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thats one of the best looking Mustangs ever, even the wheels are awesome

    • @tyberious3023
      @tyberious3023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly only Mustang I'd buy and I don't really like Mustangs cause everyone has one. But this is an exception

    • @jasons2562
      @jasons2562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tyberious3023 Id also buy the GT350-R and new GT500, also 100% a 2000 Cobra R

    • @dghost198
      @dghost198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wheels are fantastic

    • @benjaminvoss7186
      @benjaminvoss7186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dghost198 I think so too. But Ford canceled these 😭

  • @spooksmagee
    @spooksmagee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I never "got" mustangs until I rented a GT350 for a day. Incredible car. So if the the Mach 1 is even 80% of that car, it's gonna be a winner too.

    • @SeeWorldKevin
      @SeeWorldKevin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Turo? Just rented a model s p90d myself

    • @jackandcoffee1145
      @jackandcoffee1145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I rented a 350 for a couple days last year and they really are fantastic.

    • @matthewbeauregard5057
      @matthewbeauregard5057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have a 2018 GT350 and have also driven the new Mach 1, these are totally to different vehicles. I wouldn't trade my GT350 for anything.

    • @spooksmagee
      @spooksmagee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SeeWorldKevin yep!

    • @terryl9996
      @terryl9996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no voodoo mill is bunk

  • @wimbrow1
    @wimbrow1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as always Matt. Is Zach your new partner ? I'd love to see your review of the mach 1 most of us will /have bought, the non HP version, MT as well. I recently bought one in NZ. On the 255/275 MPS4's obviously no tramlining. we are lucky to get the recarros with electric adjustable seats and electric lumbar support . Agree that the Tremac is much improved compared to my 2016 MT. Im very happy with my purchase in FJG, MT. don't plan on tracking so i guess the coolers are really redundant. cheers, tom

  • @DarsanJKumar-kq5sp
    @DarsanJKumar-kq5sp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tremec 6-speed with the 5.0 is the best of both worlds indeed!!

  • @jcook61281
    @jcook61281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m literally drooling over this car! I told myself that I was going to research other cars idk a older vette? A challenger ,charger a stinger,but this thing is a wicked machine and it’s unique so many people have a GT . Shelby/cobra/GT 350 it just looks a lot more aggressive than the GT. Can’t wait to test drive one!

  • @Vegas5oh
    @Vegas5oh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The mt82 comments are over exaggerated lol

    • @AaronRobinProductions
      @AaronRobinProductions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya definitely. There’s a shit ton of boosted mt82 Mustangs that are perfectly fine.

  • @10speedM1
    @10speedM1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw one exactly the same at my dealership but I sticked with the 21” pp1 but it’s a really nice looking car and amazing handling

  • @avocado9763
    @avocado9763 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding critique!

  • @troytaylor9330
    @troytaylor9330 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the smoking tire reviews. I'm with you on the seats, feels like your on a bar stool. I have a 2013 Boss Laguna-Seca, and I thought this might be the potential replacement but the second I sat in it... decision made; the Boss has a great seating position. I know the Boss isn't ever going to be a match to an independent suspension Mach1 but that Boss puts a smile on my face every time I get in it, and it keeps you on your toes which in my opinion adds to the excitement. I think I'll add a Tremec and a few misc. upgrades and keep it until the end of time. I like your review on the 2013 Yellow Boss with the coil overs and Cobra Jet set-up. That car is a beast.

  • @Speedster404
    @Speedster404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know what my next car is now :)

  • @toms5oh
    @toms5oh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I LOVE THE WHEELS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @plutodestroyer12
    @plutodestroyer12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    shits expensive as hell tho. i’d be looking for a used 350 if i were in this market.

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly considering the GT350 started at Mach1 prices when it came out. What a slap in the face.

    • @plutodestroyer12
      @plutodestroyer12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RadDadisRad mach 1 STARTS at $53k ... wth !!!!

    • @nerowolf8006
      @nerowolf8006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I bought a GT350 2 months ago, and no part of me wishes I waited for a mach 1. With dealer overages, they're more expensive than used GT350s

    • @Dylan-xj8tb
      @Dylan-xj8tb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      agreed, Id rather just have a zl1 at this price.

    • @JFlogerzi
      @JFlogerzi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Watch out for used 350s and if you get one make sure to get a warranty that covers the engine. The early ones had issues.

  • @orincoon5585
    @orincoon5585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a proud owner of a Shelby GT500 and proud member of Team Shelby I gotta give this new Mach 1 props. Love the Shelby GT350 a little bit more over this car but wouldn't pass this one up if the time and price is right. Great video and review guys!😁👍🇺🇸

  • @leopies6032
    @leopies6032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the PP2 Gearbox really that bad? I've been considering a PP2.
    Am I better off with the PP1 and 10-Speed Auto??

  • @MrLew1965
    @MrLew1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Roush Stage 2 Supercharger with this Mach1 would be a my dream car !!

  • @trwsandford
    @trwsandford 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    solid review. well done

  • @mustang8206
    @mustang8206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People call this car a budget Shelby or a parts bin special as an insult but I think it's a positive in some aspects. It's cheap enough (relatively speaking) that you can daily drive it while getting the best that Ford has to offer. The reliability and modability of the 5.0 while having the handling of the Cobra. It's not the best at anything but gives the average a taste of the top performance cars

  • @MrOldschoolgsr
    @MrOldschoolgsr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh I really like this, may look into one

  • @chrise2329
    @chrise2329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really like these.

  • @Drake5153
    @Drake5153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd have to agree about the Voodoo engine, it ended up as an engineering mistake because ford wanted the gt350 to still sound like a muscle car so they gave the Voodoo engine an unconventional flat-plane crank, which caused excessive vibrations which killed the crank-mounted oil pump due to harmonics. If you look at almost every flat-plane crank the crank pins are up-down-down-up, but in the Voodoo engine it's up-down-up-down. It's a shame and a waste of a good engine.. maybe someone down the line will correct this issue eventually but I doubt it, because it would require a custom crank and 4 custom cams lol.

    • @ahemgee9542
      @ahemgee9542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting to know re the crank

    • @Drake5153
      @Drake5153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ahemgee9542 it's the only thing that makes sense considering that no one recommends spinning a Voodoo past 9,000 rpm when the regular coyote can push 10,000+ rpm, and the fact that they blow oil pumps and vibrate the filter loose oil filters, and most state a balancer on ANY Voodoo setup is a must. Unfortunately it also means the Voodoo is permanently crippled unless you swap to a coyote crank and cams.. now you know why it's the "Voodoo", because it took some serious Voodoo to make it work lol

    • @FL50ssp
      @FL50ssp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Drake5153 Nice to finally come across someone else that understands why Vooblew is a mess. Non-conventional FPC is the culprit for the secondary vibration issues you mentioned above. Look at the Ford FPC crank (up-dn-up-dn) compared to conventional (up-dn-dn-up) FPC and you will notice the Ford FPC has two large counterweights at each end of the crank to try and mitigate excessive secondary vibrations from non-conventional FPC. Nice in theory but failed in application. The up coming C8 Z06 FPC uses conventional (up-dn-dn-up) FPC and will not have the issue Ford did.

  • @doniwhips247
    @doniwhips247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I wouldn’t call it a budget gt350 when dealers mark them up to 68 grand

    • @Randy-rs1cg
      @Randy-rs1cg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats M2 Comp with suspension and tuning money

    • @doniwhips247
      @doniwhips247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Randy-rs1cg that’s GTR money too

    • @Randy-rs1cg
      @Randy-rs1cg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doniwhips247 i would only say its worth it if it had the voodoo. no voodoo no go

    • @teemeaux3830
      @teemeaux3830 ปีที่แล้ว

      M2 comp cost more and this does the same numbers and any gtr before 2012 have glass transmissions and still cost more

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So frustrating that Ford doesn't have the Tremec manual transmission standard on the normal GT. The Mach 1 is expensive ($65k) if all you want is a good manual. Great job on this review

    • @lethal5.0
      @lethal5.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likely going to be the standard manual transmission on the next gen

    • @egibson2266
      @egibson2266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s a t56 cost? Could someone or swap it into their GT / PP2 f

    • @sweetcheels
      @sweetcheels 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re too expensive. Ford usually tries to keep cost low to keep it the #1 american muscle/pony car seller.

    • @MybackHurtz1
      @MybackHurtz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A stock MT-82 has been shown to consistently hold more power than a Tremec TR-3160. It's not a T56XL and they break as well in high HP applications. The MT82 gets a lot of hate but it's beaten to death in 800hp cars that no manual trans is going to hold forever.

    • @dieseldan420ca
      @dieseldan420ca ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MybackHurtz1 #YDBT

  • @ubercooper
    @ubercooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's great but $65,000 for a non-Shelby Mustang is insanity. A ZL-1 is the same price with 200 more hp

    • @Stealth_Rider91
      @Stealth_Rider91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're missing the point. Chevy is still using ancient pushrod technology and a Mustang is classier.

    • @jmm1174
      @jmm1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes the Camaro ZL1 or the SS1LE have great performance for the $👍

    • @TrackMonkey327
      @TrackMonkey327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's Porsche Cayman S territory

    • @FL50ssp
      @FL50ssp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it's still slower... www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/

    • @FL50ssp
      @FL50ssp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stealth_Rider91 And yet it is still faster and a better car that doesn't have major engine issues. I love it when the fanboys all point out Camaro has terrible visibility and the truck is small. What are you guys 65 years old? Thought we were buying performance cars with the knowledge that sacrifices would be required for performance? www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/

  • @rivercityracer3683
    @rivercityracer3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Nice review. I will say, the MT82's issues were directly due to the clutch. In stock form it wasn't bad but when you started modifying the engine and tuning it, raising the rev limiter, the OEM clutch assemblies really did NOT like to disengage very well into the 7,000 rpm area.
    The fix for this is a Mcleod RST or Mantic twin disk, etc, the transmission itself worked well for me and held up great until I sold my coyote/mt82 car after about 80,000 miles. It still had the stock clutch too, in good working order except the intermittent 7k+ hard shifting issue. It was a 2013 GT brembo car with bolt-ons that dyno'd 430 rwhp. I autocrossed the fuck out of that car for two seasons, launched in 2nd and 3k+ rpm dumping the clutch on 315/30-18 BFG Rivals at least 150 times, did a little street racing, road trips, daily driver, the typical shit. But. The transmission was never an issue, it was the clutch at random times. This is a well known fact unless you got a lemon MT82 that slipped past QC from the factory and wasn't assembled correctly. There are MT82 cars running 10's both N/A and supercharged today. They tend to fail (break a gear itself) around the 750-850 rwhp area, and will obviously wear out the synchros before that from higher hp abuse over long periods of time if you do not address the clutch problem for drag racing or road course use. I wasn't doing consistent drag racing (at the strip) or road courses, so I never really had a need for a new clutch. But I did miss a hard 2-3 shift dozens of times because of this issue and the transmission was fine when I sold it. No undue noises & no particles when I changed the gear oil around 70k miles.

    • @XavierEyez
      @XavierEyez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah but when you pay that much for a car, you expect it to work from the box. That’s why I’m currently in a lemon law case for mine. I don’t understand how my BRZ had a better transmission than my GT.

    • @CatchMeNever
      @CatchMeNever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I have a friend with a 2019 gt that managed to break 3rd gear 2 times now with just bolt ons. Granted he drives his car hard but still. I was cross shopping with the camaro ss and might have gotten the mustang if the transmission was better. I ended up picking up a 2018 Camaro 2SS which I have now but it would definitely be a harder choice now.

    • @Rijos313
      @Rijos313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My 13 gt mt82 feels great still. I only have exhaust but I take it to the drag strip and it's gave me no issues knock on wood. 62k miles and going strong

    • @jamescourtney6404
      @jamescourtney6404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The MT-82 has great gear ratios, GETRAG makes great transmissions. I’ve had 2 mustang GTs the factory shifter and pressure plate are the the flaming piles of shit.

    • @ryanj116
      @ryanj116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 13 boss with an MGW short throw. I have to double clutch my 1-2 above 6500, but the MT82 is mostly fine otherwise. Never had an issue going 2-3 or 3-4. Once my current clutch goes though I’ll go RST. I don’t really mind how prickly the trans is cuz it encourages very precise shifts- when I get in my friends’ manual cars i can shift them very smoothly at any rpm. MT82 ratios are also perfect for street driving. It’s shitty, but not that shitty IMO

  • @hotshtsr20
    @hotshtsr20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a PP2 GT. The MT82 isn't great...
    But never issues shifting it. It just makes funky noises. Like, often.

    • @richardlopez2908
      @richardlopez2908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok so it being klunky and noise is normal? Mine shifts fine just makes a lot of mechanical sounding noises

    • @hotshtsr20
      @hotshtsr20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardlopez2908 Yep. Annoying, but the clunk shifting into first, occasional whine, etc is "normal".

    • @ginestraginestra9624
      @ginestraginestra9624 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine is noisy a bit too. I think it is because basically it's a race gearbox

  • @knifetech101
    @knifetech101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally adjust my seat every day in my 2015 mustang Ecoboost premium. They haven’t improved the seat design since the first model year… even with the recaro’s. The problem is the seats sit high compared to the console and wheel and there isn’t enough thigh room with the wheel properly adjusted (and I’m only 6 1” 180lbs). I’m going to end up getting sparco’s so I don’t have to fiddle with my seat adjustments constantly.

  • @rylannelson8018
    @rylannelson8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Matt, I am loving the vintage gold sub on jubilee

    • @racegascustoms
      @racegascustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is his seiko mod built by seikolab on Instagram. It is in a sub style skx007 bases case. Killer watch @Rylan Nelson

  • @deathshock5072
    @deathshock5072 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The AC Shelby Cobra was a parts bin car too

  • @bits_for_bytes
    @bits_for_bytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:50 the wild coyote heard the mating call of the Mach 1 coyote.

  • @chrism3933
    @chrism3933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the tramlining be corrected with aluminum steering bushings?

  • @JonathanGurgul
    @JonathanGurgul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:39 you’re absolutely right. I’ve owned / daily drove a 2018 PP2 and owned / daily drove a 2019 GT350 and the PP2 was a better car around town. I get a ton of crap for saying that mostly by people who haven’t driven both let alone owned them. The down low torque of the coyote is much more suited to street driving. You can feel in the GT350 that it always wants to stretch its legs and be on a big track.
    With the Tremec and coolers, this thing is great for what it is. I just wish it was about $5-$7k less.

  • @boywhohadatiger
    @boywhohadatiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Matt what watch are you wearing?

  • @SpartanGuy
    @SpartanGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Matt Maran feels personally attacked.

    • @cavespoint010nx
      @cavespoint010nx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      low key went into the comments to look for this haha

  • @ryanjungers6096
    @ryanjungers6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who makes those sunglasses? Love the matte finish!

  • @CALISPEC1
    @CALISPEC1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After watching this video for the 3rd time I realized that “rear seat delete” actually looks like you could still set in it lol

  • @RogueCow
    @RogueCow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recaro's in mustangs are rough on the back. Spent a lot of time in the development GT500's with Recaro's, had to sit with a 3" binder on the seat to give me some lumbar support. Otherwise I couldn't walk after a long drive lol

  • @stephenwarren55
    @stephenwarren55 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with the lumbar support remarks. My steering isn't 'darty' at all.

  • @TheMustangStampede
    @TheMustangStampede 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my mt82 is over a decade old and it has been hit up time and time again with agressive driving every trip and several years of fri/sat drag racing not issue. Clutches though been through 3 or 4 lol

  • @chriseaton2730
    @chriseaton2730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The full tilt Shelby car is still around. The GT500.

  • @marioeid930
    @marioeid930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    How did they glaze over the fact that its 65k

    • @DouEditz
      @DouEditz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because they rich bois

    • @marioeid930
      @marioeid930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Johnny Chimpo i see, probably loaded its about 65 tho?

    • @marioeid930
      @marioeid930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Johnny Chimpo i see, maybe they weren't sure, so they didn't really dwell on it

    • @marioeid930
      @marioeid930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Johnny Chimpo yeah but whats comparable?

    • @marioeid930
      @marioeid930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Johnny Chimpo not performance wise

  • @jc-kj2on
    @jc-kj2on 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen one of these the other day and man what a beauty 😍 i get the same fizz from that as lookin at a e46 m3
    Hopefully it rides as good but shes a big ol girl, almost 4k lbs 😮

  • @ChristopherDillman
    @ChristopherDillman ปีที่แล้ว

    Yowza that sled sounds good. 🔥

  • @evanneiswanger
    @evanneiswanger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nobody gonna talk about them seeing a coyote right after talking about the Coyote Engine?

  • @blitzy3244
    @blitzy3244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys should do some reviews from top of Stunt down Tuna Canyon to the PCH

  • @rickyfell6369
    @rickyfell6369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need one. I have the 2004 Mach 1 in white and a 5 speed. My goal is to have all three Mach 1’s in my life time. This new Mach is absolutely amazing. No availability anywhere!

  • @AXXeYY
    @AXXeYY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this car in amarica is peak sportcar value for money hands down

  • @speedtab215
    @speedtab215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you get this exact setup with the 10 speed?

  • @bballgrl142
    @bballgrl142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone know where to get these orange accent stripes and brake covers? they are beautiful!

  • @TD-il6ju
    @TD-il6ju 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:21 ROFL, my guy. The oh boy really emphasizes the American in this video love it

  • @themiddleclasstaxslave651
    @themiddleclasstaxslave651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shelby gt350 (any recent year with track pack) or 2021 Mach 1?

  • @DC5Brandon
    @DC5Brandon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we option the carbon fiber wheels with this?

  • @ElonMuskX
    @ElonMuskX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what is price of this versus a GT with PP! and options?

  • @Brandon-kv5sd
    @Brandon-kv5sd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many of these are supposed to be made? Tryna get one but dont know how much luck ill have

  • @christopherveilleux3760
    @christopherveilleux3760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like an amazing car. A little surprised at how slow the numbers are ( 0-60 and 1/4 mile) but I'm sure weight has a lot to do with it. Add a supercharger or twin turbos and it wouldn't be an issue anymore.

  • @adolfogonzalez1305
    @adolfogonzalez1305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you think instead of a blower it would be good to increase the displacement of the Coyote and different cams and exhaust?

    • @slk1771
      @slk1771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      boring it out wouldn't do too much and would cost $$$. better cams and headers would absolutely make a difference, however. forced induction is overkill most of the time unless you want to go *absurdly* fast.

  • @2004lesk01
    @2004lesk01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that colour is amazing luv the MACH 1

  • @dankmemer2774
    @dankmemer2774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mach 1 is certainly the highest performing stang on the coyote platform. But as a replacement to the voodoo platform, there can be none. In fact, the gt350 and gt350r was and still is my favorite mustang ever made; they’re my favorite car in the sub $100k range and perhaps even sub $150k. Sure, it has its issues, but what high strung motor don’t? I hope they bring the voodoo back sometime in the future. Rip 5.2L Voodoo V8 NA Flat Plane Crank: 2015-2020, you will be missed

  • @DrBIeed
    @DrBIeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always loved the Mach 1 packages for basically any Mustang year but I do wish for this one they would have at least tried making a Shaker to set it apart. I guess since most modern car intakes aren’t on top anymore its just not a practical application.

    • @IDontLikeAltRock
      @IDontLikeAltRock 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Dodge hit it out of the park with the Shaker package for the Challenger. Really wish Ford and Chevy followed suit.

  • @josephtepe3625
    @josephtepe3625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Camaro guy here and love my SS! But this car is a beast from everything I’ve watched on it 😍💪. Pretty cool time to be a car guy 😂👍

  • @deancarr4507
    @deancarr4507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely love this car, especially being a fan of the old muscle cars. But I cant imagine it replaces the GT350/R

    • @jsimmonstx
      @jsimmonstx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't replace the R.

  • @ryanhopper4142
    @ryanhopper4142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what road is this filmed in? Gorgeous