I know this request might be challenging but it would be really cool if you guys would include total vehicle weight (in Lbs or Kg). It's one of the reasons I can't stand the 2 ton (3856lbs) G80 M3/M4 & why I love the 3480lb M2CS & M2Comp.
Both. They are both too good in their respective realms. The Mach 1 doesn't pretend to be comfy and luxurious; just raw sound and speed. Love it. The RC-F is peak Japanese GT. A bulletproof luxo-cruiser with the hard edge dialed up to 10. Love it. "stang around town, RC-F for road trips.
@@wasimgotauzi9756 Yeah thats why a Mx-5 is my dream car. But the Mustang is a car I definitly want to drive, manual with that engine and sound? Id surely love it. And more like 4000 pounds but I know what you mean. I think the Mx-5 nd really is the perfect car.
@@JarnoScw dud i was thinking the same thing.ive been drooling over a nd since it launched in 2016 And the mustang is a car I would like to own later.but the miata is something that I'm itching to get
@@justanormalguyintheforest5518 not much of a story really. I was a designer for a manual clutch company, we transitioned our manual clutch design to another location. Now I design hybrid/transmission items.
Wasn’t the challenge in the clutch design being able to shift above 8000 RPM and get a clean clutch release, thus the dual mass fly wheel and twin disc clutch?
I've never thought about people having to "design" clutches. Is it a case of selecting the right material/compound/thickness for the application Vs cost?
Not sure what you mean by a "modded car"................what does that mean? What did they mod? The engine has been in production since 2008, the car just lost some weight and got a wing.
@@harrisr1018 I’ve had multiple mustangs that have gone well beyond 50k miles. That’s an old argument. Plus no one really keeps sports cars for past 100k miles anyway. By the time they hit 100k the next best car is out and everybody trades in.
I seen a Mach 1 last week here in South Florida in the Jet Fighter Gray color. I thought the color was going to be ugly in person, but it actually looks better in person.
Did you see it at Greico Ford? I've only even seen one and it was at that dealer. I was in love with it when I saw it so much I actually ended up ordering one. Greico is trying to charge $79,999 for a Mach 1 without all the options because they have a $9,999 Dealer Fee on it. I literally maxed out my Mach 1 and only paid $69,999 instead (including all fees.) I just have to wait until early December to get it from the factory.
@@Nick-uw1pt for that price I would've just got a 350 slightly used..I love the mach 1 but cant justify paying shelby price if it was 50k or 55 I could understand any stang in the 60s better have a snake badge on side for me.
Despite their similarities, they are essentially two very different cars; no one is ever going to confuse a Mustang as a luxury car. :D The Mustang gets a pass and is kind of expected to be not-fancy.
Don't confuse overpriced for luxury/reliability. I've owned a fully loaded 2015 Mustang GT Premium for 5 years. I have friends who own Teslas, BMWs, Mercedes-Benzs, and when they drove my car they were pleasantly surprised. I've also test driven the RC, and I like it. Both ride quality & cabin noise levels are very similar. The RC has slightly better finish, but the Mustang is roomier, both interior & trunk. I traded away my Mustang because 20 inch rims over potholes aren't pleasant for my cancer-survivor wife.
Love how that Mustang fills in the wheel wells, very nice flush look. The Lexus only looks a bit unfinished. Price value winner is the Mustang. However, good luck not getting the dealer to price gouge on both cars.
Went to the Smoky Mountains early this spring and arrived right in the middle of Ponies in the Smokies, didn't even realize but quickly noticed something was up when I saw a number of Roushes, a number of Shelbys, a few Saleens and a number of mach ones (also saw an RTR). Was quite a nice surprise lol
Love the RC F Track edition but at it's MSRP it is up against some really serious enthusiast competition. Could pick up a reasonable daily driver and the Mach 1 for the same price.
5.0 V8's are the best sounding production v8's in my opinion. A strong argument could be made for the Ferrari 3.6, but I personally consider that a different category.
I owned a 69 Mach 1, 428CJ and we currently own a new Lexus SUV. Hardly a comparison, but having been in Car Sales Mgmt for much of my life, I know that ownership of a Lexus/Toyota will be far more enjoyable than anything produced by Ford. But I would never opt for the stick. Between endless hours commuting from Burlington to Toronto on Canada's biggest parking lots, the Q.E.W. and the Gardiner Expressway in summer, or sitting in Las Vegas' Spaghetti Bowl in winter. Excellent video, by the way!!!
@@abdullahrahimmanzer7890 Per Mustang ka Apna Naam hai , kaun lexus ko puchta hai Mustang pe sab log marte hai , mUstang ki popularity or legacy ka koi tod nahi🐎
@@SeeJulianGo you are correct, the tr6060 is for more robust powerplants and has been praised thoroughly. Tremec appears to be just as solid across most of their latest applications. Not a fan of Mustangs but I give respect where it's due.
The Mach 1 truly is the first time since the 2018 refresh that I've thought 'yes that looks awesome with no down side'. Like many I wasn't happy with the 2018 Mustang refresh, but I liked aspects. The taillights were great. The headlights bothered me, but I did like that angles on the bumper. Some of the lines on the hood gave it a 'saggy by close to the windshield look' that I didn't like. It did slightly grow on me in general but I still had issues. But that Mach 1 front bumper is AWESOME and works perfectly with the headlights I wasn't a fan of before. I used to own a 2016 Camaro SS. Had to sell to help grow my business. Covid didn't' help either. But when I'm looking to buy again I'd seriously consider getting a GT and do a bumper swap to get this look.
I initially didn't care for that aircraft gray color, but gotta admit, it's grown on me. The matted finish of the wheels and splash of orange are nice touches.
Awesome comparison. The Mach 1 with the Tremec 3160 six-speed delivers the better driving experience hand down. Every car enthusiast, motor head , gear head out there owes it to themselves to row the gears of the Tremec 3160 six-speed al least once. The engineering behind that 6 speed is truly marvelous.
The seats and interior are 50% percent of why I got my RCF. The other 50% was the N/A 2UR. One hell of a trusty Toyota engine. Both are great choices ! Can’t really go wrong with either…but they are quite different from each other.
@@ghidraa9340 indeed it does! Can’t really go wrong with Toyota products for the MOST part. There is some crappy stuff tho! All manufacturers have them! RC350 with invidia exhaust sounds amazing
@@JohnBlazeZero Funny thing, with Lexus My RC350 came with Magna Flow Exhaust which is discontinued. I had another RC350 XPipe Remark Muffler delete which was Really Loud but a little too high pitch. This new Magna Flow Muffler sounds Really good I'm excited to see how it pairs with H Pipe and headers.
Now can we do the Mustang vs. the M3?! That would be an interesting showdown and such a sign of how far the Mustang has come. As a current Audi owner I would totally cross shop the M3 and the Mustang as track cars.
Motoretrend did a comparison a couple years ago with the E92 M3 and the Mustang Boss 302 and the Boss won. The Mustang has improved significantly but so has the M3/M4. I think your best bet is the Shelby 350r. Amazing V8 and a 6 speed manual.
@@btowngolfr812 I think the OP is comparing stock for stock. BMW M cars are excellent handling machines for sure and are basically race cars for the street, However, the Mustang is not something to be overlooked, it’s a GREAT car for the price and it’s not trying to compete with luxury brands.
@@drivescene6747 I think the new m4 vs the Mach 1 would be a good comparison. I personally have been waiting for some one to compare them since the Mach 1 released and I found out the new G82 has similar weight and dimensions.
remember the days where a good launch was all driver and tire? i laugh when I hear, traction control off, Track mode on, launch control engaged!!. Reminds me of the old Batman series " Atomic batteries to power, Turbines to speed, Roger ready to move out."
Also, there’s a setting, for the Mustang, if you want the day running lights only to be on (tri bar lights) you have to check off the day lamp setting to off. That is so the headlamps will be off and only turn on the DRL.
Starting at the 3:57 minute mark. Did anyone else notice that both the Mustang and RC F were missing a lug nut, or is that just standard? It was on those specific tires, I didn't notice it on other tires. Edit: That mustang performs so well in the driving dynamics part that it was called a Camaro.
Cool Mach 1... but the RCF is just a perfect balance of performance, luxury and reliability. And, you don't see one on every corner. I have a 2019 Premium Edition and love it!
So something I noticed with the Mustang, my friends Mach 1 DRL work regardless of the parking break position, so that might just be a law in Canada where that’s required.
I think most of the bad shifting feel in a regular 5.0 is from the shifter itself and not so much the transmission. I had a 2014 Stage 3 Roush and of course I didn’t enjoy shifting it until I installed the MGW shifter. It completely changed the driving experience! It felt silky smooth and just clicked into gears once it was installed. The BMR suspension and one piece drive shaft also added to the driving fun.
MUSTANG ALL DAY!!! I drove the GT350 and it was amazing that Tremec 6 speed is AWESOME! And the power transfer is beyond belief! So I would hope the Mach 1 feels the same. Going to the dealership today!
Great review as always! Thanks! Mustang is the way to go for sure and just letting you know that MSRP order have been placed by me for 2023 Mach 1 :-)! You review of that car sold me on it for sure plus incredible value of that last of Mohican’s vehicle :-)! Keep up the great work guys!!! ✌🏻from California!
The RCF "Track Edition" is a joke. All that flashy carbon and big spoiler, for what? Worse lap times than a 1LE Camaro SS that costs half as much? No thanks, for $100k I'll take a Cayman GT4 instead of this pointless boat.
Yeah for $100k is much but have you actually seen the rcf at the Nurburgring, remember driver mod matters on the track, I’ve never heard of a straight line track
The Mach 1 for sure wins on so many levels for me...the Lexus wasn’t even on my radar before you guys brought up the comparison and honestly I can see why after watching the review. The Mach 1 or a used GT350 (if you can find one), would be my choice for sure.
One of your best reviews ever. Great job as usual. This comparison is one I've been wanting for a long time. Now lets have one with the non-track versions after all, how many will ever track these cars? This Mustang wins on price and the Lexus wins because it a Lexus. I'm older so the Lexus wins of course. Never really like this latest generation Mustang. Liked the looks of the previous one better.
Over here in Australia, we get a watered down mach1, less power and the regular LSD instead of the Torsen diff, I'd absolutely choose the Lexus, they sound amazing with an aftermarket exhaust, and some wider tyres on the rear (Lexus always puts too narrow tyres on), will help with the loose tail.
Lol a lot of people don't have a clue how good the RCF can sound with a full novel setup. If the car came sounding like that from factory it would be the much more popular option regardless of it being less powerful to the competition.
Once you get off the gas and begin driving sanely, the quality of the build difference is light years away from each other. I had a GT500 and now drive a Lexus. No comparison in build quality, comfort, and luxury. The Lexus leaves the Mustang faaaaaar behind.
I gotta make an argument on your exhaust look rating. I think the fact you can see the massive resonators behind the RCF’s exhaust kills the look. If you couldn’t see the resonators then it’d be a win no doubt.
Bet Pom, I’m guessing you have to be a female which is fine , bc red blooded men put Performance first. I could careless if the mustang has a bus seat, give me the one that turns heads. MUSTANG
@@georgewilliams3740 mustangs/cameros/dodgechargers are the coakroaches of the road. Everyone and their mother has some version of mustang it seems. At least you don't see many rcf, especially track edition. Show me the hottest woman on earth, and I'll show you the guy who tired of hitting it. Everything gets old, mustangs just feel old news now.
Just can’t beat a great manual transmission. I definitely agree with you guys. The GT350 is my realistic dream car though, so I’m bringing a lot of bias.
I ordered mine maxed out for $69,999 including all fees. The only one I've seen in real life was in a showroom and had a $10,000 dealer fee on it, INSANITY! Lol
I would go for that gorgeous RC-F perfection everywhere: -carbon fiber hood wing splitter roof -drifty -red interior and cool gages and seats -weight reduced, -unbelievable headlights, -exhaust system on point, -no soft limiter, -more reliable probably, -carbon ceramic brakes, you cannot go wrong with this Japanese BEAST 🔥🔥
I was looking at the RCF TE as my next car but they should have gone with the 5.4L (bored .4 over - GT3 spec) instead. Maybe a manual or a better transmission.
I Gotta give a round of applause to Lexus for making a vehicle like this... when you remember that Lexus is a Japanese manufacturer making a car like this is pretty wild this type of vehicle does not exist from Honda or Nissan. Acura nothing RWD nothing fun. Infinti no V8 coupe. Lexus builds really unique Vehicles in the Japanese landscape of whats normal. Can’t wait to see the next F products.
@@johnmitchell2269 This is not a Honda Civic this vehicle is not made to generate sale numbers. It’s a showcase of Lexus engineering. only 60 examples of this RCF have been produced making it one of the rarest vehicles in production and if you watch the video they even said that a few of them have been sold and there’s only two left in Canada. So there’s wealthy people out there that actually buying them
Both are sweet cars, If I was younger and more into racing Mach 1 everyday but I want something as I get older more refined so I would give up some speed/manual and go with the RCF.
@@drivescene6747 Absolutely. Ppl look at Lexus=Toyota which is the same company with different parts. Lexus vehicles in my experience has been less reliable than mustangs.
@@taurussho86 I agree. Lexus is overrated and overpriced for what you get. Most of the vehicles in their lineup is from 2006. Mustangs are great cars which are constantly being improved. My personal favorite modern Mustang is the GT350, I’m in love with that Voodoo V8.
@davidbarlow372 I had an rcf I edged off my buddies track edition by a half a fender an that's how I know so you're wrong and you have no clue what you're talking about jokes on you
I'm a ford guy so u know that i'm all in for that mustang, and its really a shame that they got rid of the 350 but i think they did a great job with this mustang, ohhh... ITS FREAKING NATURALY ASPERATE. and i love how it sounds its just great 👌👌😍😍. And lets not forget how great u guys r, ur my favorite youtubers, keep doing what ur doing and lets get it
Watch our RCF Track Edition vs BMW M3 Manual with LOTS of drifting: th-cam.com/video/VSHC1_aQ1R0/w-d-xo.html
Dudes this tandem comparison was awesome. Keep it up!
@@antonroux6737 it's got a five star safety rating though.🤔
I know this request might be challenging but it would be really cool if you guys would include total vehicle weight (in Lbs or Kg). It's one of the reasons I can't stand the 2 ton (3856lbs) G80 M3/M4 & why I love the 3480lb M2CS & M2Comp.
RCF Track Edition. Wow, what a colossal waste of $. So many other cars I’d rather have at that price point.
RCF Track Edition would easily lose to M340
Both. They are both too good in their respective realms. The Mach 1 doesn't pretend to be comfy and luxurious; just raw sound and speed. Love it. The RC-F is peak Japanese GT. A bulletproof luxo-cruiser with the hard edge dialed up to 10. Love it. "stang around town, RC-F for road trips.
Agreed...
The MACH 1 is very comfy with the magniride suspension, and seems to handle significantly better than the RCF as well. Very good road cruiser
Interesting. Throttl House HATED the RCF
Wouldn't the LC be the peak Japanese GT?
Or the LFA even.
@@weasle2904 lol yes comfy but stop it your comparing comfort and luxury to lexus? Its a weekend car/track
The Mustang Mach 1 with a manual and in the velocity blue or whats its called. Such a perfect car.
Great car but weighs like 8000 pounds
@@wasimgotauzi9756 Yeah thats why a Mx-5 is my dream car.
But the Mustang is a car I definitly want to drive, manual with that engine and sound? Id surely love it.
And more like 4000 pounds but I know what you mean.
I think the Mx-5 nd really is the perfect car.
@@JarnoScw dud i was thinking the same thing.ive been drooling over a nd since it launched in 2016
And the mustang is a car I would like to own later.but the miata is something that I'm itching to get
@@wasimgotauzi9756 yeah 👍🏻
Nah, the GT350r with it's flat plane crank higher revving engine is the perfect Mustang.
The clutch used in the GT350 and Mach 1 was the last one I helped design... good days.
wait really? I wanna hear the story of it
@@justanormalguyintheforest5518 not much of a story really. I was a designer for a manual clutch company, we transitioned our manual clutch design to another location. Now I design hybrid/transmission items.
Oooo right on
Wasn’t the challenge in the clutch design being able to shift above 8000 RPM and get a clean clutch release, thus the dual mass fly wheel and twin disc clutch?
I've never thought about people having to "design" clutches. Is it a case of selecting the right material/compound/thickness for the application Vs cost?
Honestly? The Mach-1 interior is really nice. I have no complaints. The Tremec and the sound of the exhaust is 10/10. No regrets buying one.
dudes, ya gotta include the WEIGHT with the horsepower and torque! ❤️
Yeah cuz the weight of the mustang
6969 and 420420
@@TheStraightPipes nice
@@TheStraightPipes Bro you already know.
We’re goin’ hoggin’
It’s weird that they are having a full conversation looking at each other but in different cars 😂
That’s some good video filming and editing to pull that off
@@Tempsho or they just keep mics on when driving. They have earphones in their ear you know. they would still have loads of editing work tho.
Lmao I wasn't alone. Shit was hella weird.
I feel like the Lexus looks like a modded car where the Mustang just looks clean.
Agreed 100%
Yeah. Lexus looks like a load of 17 year olds were let loose on it to bolt on some parts to make it more 'cool'
Not sure what you mean by a "modded car"................what does that mean? What did they mod? The engine has been in production since 2008, the car just lost some weight and got a wing.
@@EJ257IHI I mean that it looks like someone bought a "stock" car and added a bunch of aftermarket parts to it.
Until they do away with that stupid grill the Lexus will continue to look like a bag of smashed assholes.
Both are sexy cars! but rooting for the mustang!
Mustang until 50k miles, lexus after
@@harrisr1018 Just get the v8 and stick shift. Ford's V8s are actually quite reliable and you can find a lot of old Mustangs in decent shape.
lexus all day mate
@@harrisr1018 I’ve had multiple mustangs that have gone well beyond 50k miles. That’s an old argument. Plus no one really keeps sports cars for past 100k miles anyway. By the time they hit 100k the next best car is out and everybody trades in.
اخر مكان توقعت اشوفك فيه 😂
I seen a Mach 1 last week here in South Florida in the Jet Fighter Gray color.
I thought the color was going to be ugly in person, but it actually looks better in person.
Yep I same here bro
I think I did seen one in Greenwood South Carolina in a parking lot at a dealership because I immediately recognize the wing.
A guy here in Jupiter has one, kinda meh on the color
Did you see it at Greico Ford? I've only even seen one and it was at that dealer. I was in love with it when I saw it so much I actually ended up ordering one. Greico is trying to charge $79,999 for a Mach 1 without all the options because they have a $9,999 Dealer Fee on it. I literally maxed out my Mach 1 and only paid $69,999 instead (including all fees.) I just have to wait until early December to get it from the factory.
@@Nick-uw1pt for that price I would've just got a 350 slightly used..I love the mach 1 but cant justify paying shelby price if it was 50k or 55 I could understand any stang in the 60s better have a snake badge on side for me.
Despite their similarities, they are essentially two very different cars; no one is ever going to confuse a Mustang as a luxury car. :D The Mustang gets a pass and is kind of expected to be not-fancy.
Rather have a car that's not a luxury car pretending to be a race car.
Don't confuse overpriced for luxury/reliability. I've owned a fully loaded 2015 Mustang GT Premium for 5 years. I have friends who own Teslas, BMWs, Mercedes-Benzs, and when they drove my car they were pleasantly surprised. I've also test driven the RC, and I like it. Both ride quality & cabin noise levels are very similar. The RC has slightly better finish, but the Mustang is roomier, both interior & trunk. I traded away my Mustang because 20 inch rims over potholes aren't pleasant for my cancer-survivor wife.
@@cadsux your wifes cooler than either of those cars
@@cadsux What car did you end up getting after your Mustang?
I seriously doubt people look at F cars like "luxury" cars lol
Love how that Mustang fills in the wheel wells, very nice flush look. The Lexus only looks a bit unfinished. Price value winner is the Mustang. However, good luck not getting the dealer to price gouge on both cars.
The Lexus is 3x the cost of the Mach 1
@@richardjosephus6802 they are both the same price that’s a lie
@@tylernilsson4293 per road and track 2021 is 97,700 without options. ok 2x
@@tylernilsson4293 no. Track editi9n is a limited edition. Some cost like 100-120k.
Went to the Smoky Mountains early this spring and arrived right in the middle of Ponies in the Smokies, didn't even realize but quickly noticed something was up when I saw a number of Roushes, a number of Shelbys, a few Saleens and a number of mach ones (also saw an RTR). Was quite a nice surprise lol
Love the RC F Track edition but at it's MSRP it is up against some really serious enthusiast competition. Could pick up a reasonable daily driver and the Mach 1 for the same price.
For the price of the RC F, I rather have a C8 ZO6 Corvette...you know if you could actually get one and get it for MSRP.
Man that Mach 1 is just so eyecatching
@@PookieTUBE but it wouldn’t be a Mach 1.
@@PookieTUBE well then you could make any GT look like a GT500 too. Don’t you think that one looks unique? Whack argument
@@PookieTUBE the Lexus looks the same as any 2004 models. My grandma's RX350 looks damn near the same.
@@crimsonstang how doe, RX and RC are very different
@@0sus not really. Same looking cars
5.0 V8's are the best sounding production v8's in my opinion. A strong argument could be made for the Ferrari 3.6, but I personally consider that a different category.
I owned a 69 Mach 1, 428CJ and we currently own a new Lexus SUV. Hardly a comparison, but having been in Car Sales Mgmt for much of my life, I know that ownership of a Lexus/Toyota will be far more enjoyable than anything produced by Ford. But I would never opt for the stick. Between endless hours commuting from Burlington to Toronto on Canada's biggest parking lots, the Q.E.W. and the Gardiner Expressway in summer, or sitting in Las Vegas' Spaghetti Bowl in winter.
Excellent video, by the way!!!
Out of these two I would pick the Lexus LC 500
Still Mustang is Mustang
Lexus to phir Lexus hay
@@abdullahrahimmanzer7890 Per Mustang ka Apna Naam hai , kaun lexus ko puchta hai Mustang pe sab log marte hai , mUstang ki popularity or legacy ka koi tod nahi🐎
@@hotrod7603 exactly, mustang is mustang, probably why he chose the other 😂
@@alexanderblackburn4520 becuase he might be fan of garabage toyota
That Tremec shifter is the truth in the ZL1 1LE as well
Tr3160 vs tr6060 I think the one we get in the camaro is actually better but that might be subjective
@@SeeJulianGo you are correct, the tr6060 is for more robust powerplants and has been praised thoroughly. Tremec appears to be just as solid across most of their latest applications. Not a fan of Mustangs but I give respect where it's due.
@@caf0011 yep think the 3160 in my 350 is only rated for like 450lb ft of torque and the 6060 can take a lot.
Is bro
@@user-bd8oq3cy2q The ZL1 1LE costs more than that mustang.... But you're right, you get what you pay for.
The Mach 1 truly is the first time since the 2018 refresh that I've thought 'yes that looks awesome with no down side'. Like many I wasn't happy with the 2018 Mustang refresh, but I liked aspects. The taillights were great. The headlights bothered me, but I did like that angles on the bumper. Some of the lines on the hood gave it a 'saggy by close to the windshield look' that I didn't like. It did slightly grow on me in general but I still had issues. But that Mach 1 front bumper is AWESOME and works perfectly with the headlights I wasn't a fan of before. I used to own a 2016 Camaro SS. Had to sell to help grow my business. Covid didn't' help either. But when I'm looking to buy again I'd seriously consider getting a GT and do a bumper swap to get this look.
I initially didn't care for that aircraft gray color, but gotta admit, it's grown on me. The matted finish of the wheels and splash of orange are nice touches.
It looks insanely awesome in person, trust me.
Awesome comparison. The Mach 1 with the Tremec 3160 six-speed delivers the better driving experience hand down. Every car enthusiast, motor head , gear head out there owes it to themselves to row the gears of the Tremec 3160 six-speed al least once. The engineering behind that 6 speed is truly marvelous.
The seats and interior are 50% percent of why I got my RCF. The other 50% was the N/A 2UR. One hell of a trusty Toyota engine. Both are great choices ! Can’t really go wrong with either…but they are quite different from each other.
The 2GR runs good too!
@@ghidraa9340 indeed it does! Can’t really go wrong with Toyota products for the MOST part. There is some crappy stuff tho! All manufacturers have them! RC350 with invidia exhaust sounds amazing
@@JohnBlazeZero Funny thing, with Lexus My RC350 came with Magna Flow Exhaust which is discontinued. I had another RC350 XPipe Remark Muffler delete which was Really Loud but a little too high pitch. This new Magna Flow Muffler sounds Really good I'm excited to see how it pairs with H Pipe and headers.
@@ghidraa9340 oooh-weee! Just looked up a vid of magnaflow rc350 and boy does that sound sexy!!! Super stoked for you man
@@ghidraa9340 it takes acquired taste for the RC. I believe it will be an extremely sought after car in the near future
Now can we do the Mustang vs. the M3?! That would be an interesting showdown and such a sign of how far the Mustang has come. As a current Audi owner I would totally cross shop the M3 and the Mustang as track cars.
Motoretrend did a comparison a couple years ago with the E92 M3 and the Mustang Boss 302 and the Boss won. The Mustang has improved significantly but so has the M3/M4. I think your best bet is the Shelby 350r. Amazing V8 and a 6 speed manual.
@@btowngolfr812 have fun owning that bmw out of warranty lol
@@btowngolfr812 I think the OP is comparing stock for stock. BMW M cars are excellent handling machines for sure and are basically race cars for the street,
However, the Mustang is not something to be overlooked, it’s a GREAT car for the price and it’s not trying to compete with luxury brands.
@@drivescene6747 I think the new m4 vs the Mach 1 would be a good comparison. I personally have been waiting for some one to compare them since the Mach 1 released and I found out the new G82 has similar weight and dimensions.
Why would you get an M3 as a track car? At least get the M2. M3 is for daily driving with the extra amenities, weight and size.
remember the days where a good launch was all driver and tire? i laugh when I hear, traction control off, Track mode on, launch control engaged!!. Reminds me of the old Batman series " Atomic batteries to power, Turbines to speed, Roger ready to move out."
I just put mustang badges on my 2008 toyota suv. it has heritage now.
Also, there’s a setting, for the Mustang, if you want the day running lights only to be on (tri bar lights) you have to check off the day lamp setting to off. That is so the headlamps will be off and only turn on the DRL.
Damn, I gotta give it to the mustang.
Mach 1 - easy choice for me. 🇺🇸💪🏻
Cool comparison between two cool cars! 👍
Starting at the 3:57 minute mark. Did anyone else notice that both the Mustang and RC F were missing a lug nut, or is that just standard? It was on those specific tires, I didn't notice it on other tires.
Edit:
That mustang performs so well in the driving dynamics part that it was called a Camaro.
It's probably just a locking nut to reduce the chances of wheels being stolen. They are lower profile and less visible than standard nuts.
@@mitchellsteindler
That's interesting, I've never heard of that before.
My dude phased into another reality with that launch. 👍
Gentlemen @1:10 you stated the Mach 1 torque as 420. But in your single car review of the Mach 1 you stated 460tq. Which is correct?
420. There was a correction in both the description and the top comment
@@TheStraightPipes Excellent thanks. Now I know I can pick a fight in my GTO against it.
Cool Mach 1... but the RCF is just a perfect balance of performance, luxury and reliability. And, you don't see one on every corner. I have a 2019 Premium Edition and love it!
1:24 love how yall changed the subscribe number to 10mill
On the rcf the tires seem small.I have 275 in the front and 285 in the back of my 2015 rcf
MANUALS, 6SPD, 5SPD MUST NEVER DIE!! MUSTANG!!!
8spd dual clutch automatic is what everyone wants now. manual is old hat. and yes all my cars have manual transmissions.
So something I noticed with the Mustang, my friends Mach 1 DRL work regardless of the parking break position, so that might just be a law in Canada where that’s required.
My back has a little more health then yours does. That unnecessary dig out of nowhere made me chuckle
I think most of the bad shifting feel in a regular 5.0 is from the shifter itself and not so much the transmission.
I had a 2014 Stage 3 Roush and of course I didn’t enjoy shifting it until I installed the MGW shifter. It completely changed the driving experience! It felt silky smooth and just clicked into gears once it was installed. The BMR suspension and one piece drive shaft also added to the driving fun.
Both amazing cars. A straight piped RC F has unbelievable downshifts so I’d have to choose it
Lol, you'd choose a car based on sound?
@@taurussho86 absolutely. Are you even a car guy?? Lol
@@doggedlydetermined7022 yes i am, but I'd never make a $$$$ decision based on sound. That's dumb as fuck.
@@taurussho86 it's about enjoyment, and people like various things about driving cars, same reason why people spend so much on good exhausts.
@@blgn3502 I'm glad someone likes that car because I don't lol. It's a boring design and its exhaust note isn't unique.
MUSTANG ALL DAY!!! I drove the GT350 and it was amazing that Tremec 6 speed is AWESOME! And the power transfer is beyond belief! So I would hope the Mach 1 feels the same. Going to the dealership today!
Man this mach 1 is gorgeous
Great review as always! Thanks! Mustang is the way to go for sure and just letting you know that MSRP order have been placed by me for 2023 Mach 1 :-)! You review of that car sold me on it for sure plus incredible value of that last of Mohican’s vehicle :-)! Keep up the great work guys!!! ✌🏻from California!
I'm loving this comparison! So glad to see more videos with the Mach 1!
Can we all appreciate the fact that both of these are both port and direct injected?
The RCF "Track Edition" is a joke. All that flashy carbon and big spoiler, for what? Worse lap times than a 1LE Camaro SS that costs half as much? No thanks, for $100k I'll take a Cayman GT4 instead of this pointless boat.
Porsche GT4 is expensive
Sounds like you've got no idea how much a GT4 costs 🤣
Yeah for $100k is much but have you actually seen the rcf at the Nurburgring, remember driver mod matters on the track, I’ve never heard of a straight line track
To be honest, I totally agree. But I love the RCF/TE because it’s reliable, quick and nice. Heavy on the reliable
For a 100k you can get the gt500 with a few packages lol.
The Mach 1 for sure wins on so many levels for me...the Lexus wasn’t even on my radar before you guys brought up the comparison and honestly I can see why after watching the review. The Mach 1 or a used GT350 (if you can find one), would be my choice for sure.
The $60K Mach1 vs. the $97K Lexus (in REAL Money) = No Contest, MUSTANG Mach1 for the WIN!
Which one would you choose? I think I would go with the RCF!
Not for $97k. That’s close to porsche 911 price
Mustang for sure.
Can you guys do a full GT350 or GT350R review
This channel is gonna blow up right know it’s at 1million subs
How many subs should we have
@@TheStraightPipes 1million is a lot but your channel really deserves more
I don't even like Fords but that Mustang is pretty badass.
One of your best reviews ever. Great job as usual. This comparison is one I've been wanting for a long time. Now lets have one with the non-track versions after all, how many will ever track these cars? This Mustang wins on price and the Lexus wins because it a Lexus. I'm older so the Lexus wins of course. Never really like this latest generation Mustang. Liked the looks of the previous one better.
One category that Lexus/Toyota wins ALL the time...quality and relibilty. Ford cannot even come close.
RCF is no one's rival.. Hell they barley can get them off the shelf. But great video!!!
The mach 1 looks amazing, il look into getting one once the aftermarket makes a sick looking shaker hood for it 👌
They already do. They released it right when the car launched.
Yeah I've seen it now, kinda looks like they took it straight off a new edge 😂
The cheapest used RCF in the entirety of America is $68,888 as of this comment. The Mach 1 is $20,000 cheaper and you can still get it with a manual.
Both of my dream cars in one video!
@@DJ-vp6xq ok
While they're not considered as dream cars for me, but sure last longer than that piece of schiet AMG.
Hey, hey I didn’t say my only dream cars, prices change. I love the e63s too. I would prefer that over these two
@@DJ-vp6xq ok DJ CJSKILLZ
@@DJ-vp6xq I can pick up a Honda or old fox body build for 6-8k and smoke your e63
Over here in Australia, we get a watered down mach1, less power and the regular LSD instead of the Torsen diff, I'd absolutely choose the Lexus, they sound amazing with an aftermarket exhaust, and some wider tyres on the rear (Lexus always puts too narrow tyres on), will help with the loose tail.
Yeah and apparently they also said you get a bunch of features that you don't actually get. Ford Australia really screwed that one up lol
RCF with full NOVEL header back exhaust sounds exotic!
Yes
Lol a lot of people don't have a clue how good the RCF can sound with a full novel setup. If the car came sounding like that from factory it would be the much more popular option regardless of it being less powerful to the competition.
Those RCF seats!🥺😍
Yuri, we need a compilation of you powershifting and chirping second gears.
Good comparison but there should be a Camaro SS 1LE in this comparo. When will you guys be reviewing one of those?
I don't care what the video is, i click like not tomorrow.
Just a big thank you to you both. Your video help me buy my dream car thanks a lot :-)
What did you get!
@@rubinixcube8866 Used 2019 VOlvo XC60 T5 polestar Denim blue
@@vinicrusher nice!! That is a sweet looking ride!
what mics are they using? Such good quality.
Mustang all day! Lexus has had the same interior for the past 37 years
Being a Lexus owner and fan the RC in all trims was a failed attempt. The Mach-1 looks nice and the GT350 must be so good to roll through
The RCF is so expensive, the Stang isn't exactly cheap. I'd have to go with the Stang. That manual transmission and the sound is incredible!
It'll be the Mustang for me, this Mach 1 is a beauty.
About $100k(US) for the Lexus..
Damn, I'd rather get a 2016 M4 GTS for $100k
BMW - Karen Car alert
Once you get off the gas and begin driving sanely, the quality of the build difference is light years away from each other. I had a GT500 and now drive a Lexus. No comparison in build quality, comfort, and luxury. The Lexus leaves the Mustang faaaaaar behind.
If you guys race these you will be my new favorite car channel
Ford wouldn't let us take it to the track otherwise we would have
@@TheStraightPipes i would let you guys use mine but I'm probably far from you.
I gotta make an argument on your exhaust look rating. I think the fact you can see the massive resonators behind the RCF’s exhaust kills the look. If you couldn’t see the resonators then it’d be a win no doubt.
lol what about the interiors? The Lexus kills in that dept!
Both Are meant for different purpose mustang for legacy history heritage and many more..
Bet Pom, I’m guessing you have to be a female which is fine , bc red blooded men put Performance first. I could careless if the mustang has a bus seat, give me the one that turns heads. MUSTANG
They went over it in the video
It's a nicer interior, but dated.
@@georgewilliams3740 mustangs/cameros/dodgechargers are the coakroaches of the road. Everyone and their mother has some version of mustang it seems. At least you don't see many rcf, especially track edition. Show me the hottest woman on earth, and I'll show you the guy who tired of hitting it. Everything gets old, mustangs just feel old news now.
You can use the headlight knob to use just running lights. Well, at least in the US.
Just got a mach 1. Their review is spot on. Fuckin love it haha
Out of all V8 cars you’ve driven, which one was the best for those Canadian back roads?
Hellcat since all the roads are straight 🤣
@@TheStraightPipes 😂😂fair enough. What about American back roads?😂
Just can’t beat a great manual transmission. I definitely agree with you guys. The GT350 is my realistic dream car though, so I’m bringing a lot of bias.
Great review. Love the format. If you had to choose, Mach 1 or C8?
C7
Now... The real business! Those cars are expensive, so you have to see them like an investment, in 5 years... The winner will be...?
Ford Mustang Mach1 for the win every time 👍
The dealership markup on the Mach 1 is crazy. This video probably added another 5k to the markup. 😂 it's already at 80k why not 85.
I bought a mach 1 for 57k, no ADM. Some dealerships at least sell at MSRP.
I ordered mine maxed out for $69,999 including all fees. The only one I've seen in real life was in a showroom and had a $10,000 dealer fee on it, INSANITY! Lol
Time for some action! Looks like we're going to have some fun!
I would go for that gorgeous RC-F perfection everywhere:
-carbon fiber hood wing splitter roof
-drifty
-red interior and cool gages and seats
-weight reduced,
-unbelievable headlights,
-exhaust system on point,
-no soft limiter,
-more reliable probably,
-carbon ceramic brakes,
you cannot go wrong with this Japanese BEAST 🔥🔥
I was looking at the RCF TE as my next car but they should have gone with the 5.4L (bored .4 over - GT3 spec) instead. Maybe a manual or a better transmission.
the mustang sounds like godzilla revving up the atomic breath and it’s so dope
The reference to the guy racing that Porsche in his Maxima had me dying
I Gotta give a round of applause to Lexus for making a vehicle like this... when you remember that Lexus is a Japanese manufacturer making a car like this is pretty wild this type of vehicle does not exist from Honda or Nissan. Acura nothing RWD nothing fun. Infinti no V8 coupe. Lexus builds really unique Vehicles in the Japanese landscape of whats normal.
Can’t wait to see the next F products.
How many will they sell though?
@@johnmitchell2269 This is not a Honda Civic this vehicle is not made to generate sale numbers. It’s a showcase of Lexus engineering. only 60 examples of this RCF have been produced making it one of the rarest vehicles in production and if you watch the video they even said that a few of them have been sold and there’s only two left in Canada. So there’s wealthy people out there that actually buying them
Both are sweet cars, If I was younger and more into racing Mach 1 everyday but I want something as I get older more refined so I would give up some speed/manual and go with the RCF.
If I want the car to last and care about maintenance, I'd go RCF obviously. For any other reasons, I'd take the mach 1 personally
You're crazy as hell if you think that car will last longer.
@@taurussho86 I think the Mustang is the better car here and pretty reliable as well. I haven’t seen any reliability issues with Mustangs.
@@drivescene6747 Absolutely. Ppl look at Lexus=Toyota which is the same company with different parts. Lexus vehicles in my experience has been less reliable than mustangs.
Mustangs are easy to maintain and reliable
@@taurussho86 I agree. Lexus is overrated and overpriced for what you get. Most of the vehicles in their lineup is from 2006. Mustangs are great cars which are constantly being improved. My personal favorite modern Mustang is the GT350, I’m in love with that Voodoo V8.
Instead of quoting the peak HP and Torque numbers, compare the power curves! That will show us the whole picture. Get them dynoed!
Lmao there’s no way we can accomplish that each week
I would prefer the regular RC-F over the track edition. Even if it is slightly slower.
Regular 1 is quicker
@@davidwade7681 ..SORRY PAL YOU ARE WRONG
@davidbarlow372 yes it is that paper wing holds it back lol
@@davidwade7681 wrong it easy to tell you have no clue what you are talking about
@davidbarlow372 I had an rcf I edged off my buddies track edition by a half a fender an that's how I know so you're wrong and you have no clue what you're talking about jokes on you
Price difference is just enormous here. You could get the Mustang AND a really nice automatic sedan or crossover for what the Lexus costs...
if both were manual, i think i would go with the lexus for the luxury
GREAT SHOW! Luv from Australia!
"God DAMN..." You make me laugh, Yuri!
I was looking for the beep...but then..i was like 0.0 😂😂😅
Lol are you guys loosing your squeeky clean record haha
The mustang is very good and i love the manual, but my heart belongs to the RC-F.
I'm a ford guy so u know that i'm all in for that mustang, and its really a shame that they got rid of the 350 but i think they did a great job with this mustang, ohhh... ITS FREAKING NATURALY ASPERATE. and i love how it sounds its just great 👌👌😍😍. And lets not forget how great u guys r, ur my favorite youtubers, keep doing what ur doing and lets get it
Keeps the value up on those cars
Even though I’m a Lexus enthusiast and technician, I would take the Mach 1 over the RC-F 😅