2024 Mustang Dark Horse // V8 DRAG RACE, Review & Lap Time

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  • The 2024 Ford Mustang Dark Horse ($77,045 starting in Canada, $61,510 in the US) has arrived at the Throttle House test track to set some lap times and drag race its outgoing competition. Lining up beside it for the quarter mile is the 2023 Chevrolet Camaro LT1 ($45,874 starting in Canada, $37,045 in the US) and the 2023 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack 392 Widebody ($69,710 starting in Canada, $56,855 in the US). How will the new performance variant Mustang perform on our home track? And is it fast enough to take down its powerful yet soon to be discontinued competition? Thomas and James can’t wait to find out! We hope you enjoy the episode. And then subscribe, silly.
    Thank you to Michelin Canada for replacing the tires for the day. www.michelin.ca/
    Thank you to Grimsby Chrysler for providing the Camaro! www.grimsbychrysler.ca/
    And to the the Dark Horse and Mach1 owner Eric, for making this all possible.
    And to Jeremy, who drove that Challenger like he stole it.
    Editor: Karston Chong
    Sound: Harrison Dickson and Karston Chong
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  • @MrVara411
    @MrVara411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5478

    Let's all take a moment to appreciate the fact that this is likely the LAST TIME three naturally aspirated, manual transmission icons face off like this.

    • @28fabianz1
      @28fabianz1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

      Thanks for the depression 😞

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      And it goes in this order...Camaro, Challenger and last, S650 Mustang. The newest one is the worst option. Sadly.

    • @That1greykight0666
      @That1greykight0666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EV will fail they’ll all be back when the government quits pushing electric

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep and remember it’s not by choice!
      People want to buy those cars!
      It’s politicians forcing car companies to stop building those beloved cars and they forcefully ruin the western auto industry.
      While the cheap and dangerous Chinese crap gets promoted, it’s just ridiculous and super scary..

    • @Sly_Wolf_1
      @Sly_Wolf_1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Yes it's both sad and an absolutely disgusting extinction event!

  • @TheSecondN9nja
    @TheSecondN9nja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    It’s so painful being a car person without the funds to be a car person.

    • @lament3178
      @lament3178 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It really is

    • @MACSX7
      @MACSX7 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Man, what you said.

    • @AceCyberstarGaming
      @AceCyberstarGaming 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amen

    • @Cyril_P.
      @Cyril_P. 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Facts on top of Facts❤

    • @lovelyhippo7826
      @lovelyhippo7826 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Miata calls you😈

  • @dallasfrost1996
    @dallasfrost1996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    This just goes to show how amazingly good the Alpha platform was in the 6th gen Camaro. It's still to this day the best track car for the money within the segement. Sad to see such a great performance car go.

    • @marcob1729
      @marcob1729 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I just really wish that they had addressed the side window situation. The lack of visibility has always been very uncomfortable for me

    • @1gbayfisher
      @1gbayfisher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@marcob1729 To change that, they would have needed to change the entire chassis, no?

    • @jeffs3119
      @jeffs3119 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@1gbayfisher cadillac also used the alpha platform.

  • @ktscav13
    @ktscav13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Hats off to the drone pilot! That chase footage from above was incredible

  • @phil8761
    @phil8761 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1975

    James is hilarious! Goes from: "Go dark horse! Yeahhhhhh! Monstahhhh! 500 horse power!" to "Whooo, that was scary. Losing traction. I'm a father now, I can't be doing that." to "Let’s do that again." all in less than 30 secs.

    • @watmonfredrick6716
      @watmonfredrick6716 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      The power of thrust

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      😂 That Dark Horse must be a floaty, poor handling beast. Ford definitely tried to fill the gap left by the Challenger Scatpack with the S650s.

    • @JCintheBCC
      @JCintheBCC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Was he singing Katy Perry while drag racing?

    • @chilloff5948
      @chilloff5948 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      hahah yea I noticed that. Also said earlier "can I get an F in the chat" when talking about Carson getting married. Legend 😂@@JCintheBCC

    • @ftlnetwork6067
      @ftlnetwork6067 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      lol I was just about to comment thus. Dude is hilarious and the katy perry quote lol.

  • @kevindavis5966
    @kevindavis5966 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +573

    It's been genuinely impressive watching James' driving skills improve over the years. He's a ripper now!

    • @ThatYellowPokemon
      @ThatYellowPokemon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      i remember watching him drive a gt3 being worried lmfao

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You so right. When Thomas first brought James onboard after dropping that racecar driver , Thomas did all the drafts as James literally stood on the sideline and cheered Thomas on. James Cherry has been popped and he’s on the field and in the game now instead of just cheerlesding

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Minute 2:04 when these bad ass American thumpers throw revs.. I’m gonna miss that soooo much. They all sound great and different. Mustangs have always owned the exhaust game with these 3 Titans though…

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whoever was driving that Dodge deserves mad props. He was way closer than snd Dodge should ever be from a dog against these two..

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      James buy the Dark Horse if you really want to get Thomas’ goat…
      I watched this again. Ok I’ve watched it 5 times but that’s not why I’m here. I can appreciate you really like this Stang. You genuinely do and it was shining through. Thomas does prefer the 1LE , we all know this as he reminded us in this video again by not just saying the Camaro has better gearbox and feel and is more engaging etc but he emphasized how much better it is “it’s not NEARLY as good as the Camaro” come on Thomas. These two Mustangs are excellent cars and I’m sorry, they are truly quite engaging…Unlike most car review channels , which mainly agree with each other and especially on the 1LE since everyone in media just says 1LE as if it’s the answer to everything. Full bias everytime with preconceived victor no matter what. However, you really liked this DH. I say you buy it. Buy the damn thing and flex on every 1LE you pass…

  • @rayescastillo6605
    @rayescastillo6605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Watching this video just shows how far James has come as a driver. When I first started watching your guy stuff I feel like I could definitely take him as far as driving goes. But now he may have the edge on me. Way to go James.

  • @NarLyNaRdi
    @NarLyNaRdi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    The Darkhorse has 45 more HP than the LT1 and is double the price. I’m actually surprised the LT1 kept up with it, like it did. Very impressive!!

    • @joaquinsalinas1476
      @joaquinsalinas1476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      GM could build a good car just wasn’t marketed well

    • @chrishouston1406
      @chrishouston1406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      It's called torque. 40ft.lbs across the powerband with 300 less pounds makes a big difference.

    • @Xhabit300
      @Xhabit300 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The darkhorse is also fully loaded & a borderline muscle luxury vehicle lmfao

    • @anthonylong5870
      @anthonylong5870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      And its worth the money because there are 100'000's of the Camaros and the Dark Horse is a very limited edition that will appreciate much more than the Camaro

    • @inanimateuser9828
      @inanimateuser9828 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@anthonylong5870but the equivalent of the rare dark horse trim in the camaro is equally rare and would walk the mustang. I'd say the zl1 isn't fair to compare it to but...

  • @AdrianJReynolds
    @AdrianJReynolds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +578

    The owner should be PROUD of how you tossed that car around the track. My lord. I'm proud on their behalf. Well done as always, gentlemen. o7

  • @nbrider7235
    @nbrider7235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    The stuffed goat in the backseat of the Dark Horse was a nice touch.

    • @tallguysix8
      @tallguysix8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Also saw that 🤣

    • @d3m1g0d4
      @d3m1g0d4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was looking for your comment

    • @Allwayzworkin
      @Allwayzworkin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like every car needs a mascot in the backseat 😅 mine is baby yoda

    • @flydq502
      @flydq502 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I peeped game too. Definitely a good idea

    • @Zeraphicus
      @Zeraphicus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Courtesy of Ford Marketing department

  • @joeylewis8615
    @joeylewis8615 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm really going to miss these comparos of V8 rear wheel drive pony cars, especially the Camaro vs. Mustang. I grew up watching these battles on MotorWeek in the 80's and 90's. I really will miss these cars trading punches on the track and dragstrip.

  • @speedweid
    @speedweid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed your detailed feedback and comparison to the Mach one! Well done.

  • @SuzukiKid400
    @SuzukiKid400 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +453

    It doesn’t matter which car wins the drag race, they’re all winners in my book. Farewell beautiful V8 manual trans cars. You sound amazing, you’re fun to drive, and you’ve given so many of us amazing entertainment for many decades. So long.

    • @OGbobbylocdogg
      @OGbobbylocdogg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gotta make a choice. Man up! Kiddie time is over!

    • @MrGFG003
      @MrGFG003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@OGbobbylocdogg Hell yeah... everybody get excited for boring electric toaster races... here's my face of adulting excitement: T___T ...(I wish I could exit this life)

    • @user-vh5zq3jx6r
      @user-vh5zq3jx6r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      honda civic designs styles japan made

    • @JoeLattimore-ss2pm
      @JoeLattimore-ss2pm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm a Ford guy, and yeah.. all 3 are badass and can outrun each one another on any given day really..

    • @nighthawk0077
      @nighthawk0077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel like people have been saying this for at least the last 5 years. Yet here we are, we still have large V8 American muscle cars with a manual

  • @chrisdafurz
    @chrisdafurz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    James singing Dark Horse while ripping it was truly amazing 💀

  • @sdlausen1
    @sdlausen1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All THREE are amazing in their own way. Be thankful we still have these cars today.

  • @aramisperez5256
    @aramisperez5256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys have the coolest job!! If u wanna even call it that

  • @carlpereira234
    @carlpereira234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    This is definitely an iconic trio

  • @ITS__Kitoy
    @ITS__Kitoy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

    That in sync reaction to the brakes at 5:15 was probably the most genuine reaction to good brakes that is severely underrated in these types of high horsepower type of cars.

  • @PapaTroll86
    @PapaTroll86 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How Dodge can manage to make a *Coupe* that weighs almost 4,400lbs in 2023 is beyond me. It's like they don't even try and make everything out of old-school iron, including the seats and body panels. I've had 4WD mid-sized SUV's that weigh less.

  • @Mad_Medz
    @Mad_Medz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I absolutely love all 3 of these cars but this race played out exactly how i expected 😂👏

  • @Ramsey_Pahl
    @Ramsey_Pahl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +327

    The three most iconic muscle cars facing up against each other

    • @SlvrWlf88
      @SlvrWlf88 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sadly no gto to finish off

    • @stitch438
      @stitch438 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      A challenger is an iconic muscle car??? 🤣 Iconic cars don't disappear for 25 years, they last.

    • @fusionsportdaily1650
      @fusionsportdaily1650 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Will always be legendary. Even if you only like one of the three ponies. Still gotta respect the legend of the three.

    • @arthurwright255
      @arthurwright255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Put the new EV Charger up next to them and watch them all get smoked 😆

    • @abelw71
      @abelw71 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Who cares about a appliance ! Evs suck !

  • @yuriteixeira5816
    @yuriteixeira5816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    The ad break at 14:31 was just perfect. The timing was there, and yall saw the opportunity and took it.

    • @ripclaybourne
      @ripclaybourne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      What ad break?

    • @shanebanana
      @shanebanana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same bro! Instantly came to the comments to see if it was just me that got that ad lol

    • @steven8075
      @steven8075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ad break? what?

    • @yuriteixeira5816
      @yuriteixeira5816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yall can't have revanced on ALL your devices can you?

    • @brolyvi1211
      @brolyvi1211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya’ll didnt watch or skipped thru the video. There is an ad. 😅😂

  • @Kev-01973
    @Kev-01973 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love you guys! You helping me make a decision 💪🏾

  • @marcocatano554
    @marcocatano554 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb! Loved this one

  • @SYC1969
    @SYC1969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +789

    The LT1 is a remarkable value. It's amazing what it can do at just over half the price of the dark horse.

    • @Tm0n3y762
      @Tm0n3y762 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weighs a shit ton less also

    • @lealandyoung
      @lealandyoung 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      Yeah, the marketing guys at Ford were smoking some good stuff that day. If the Dark Horse Premium was 80k US all in (Handling Pack, Recaros, CF Wheels, M6 trans and Painted stripes) it would be a pretty good deal, but that car is 91k and at the bottom end if the regular Dark Horse with Handling Pack was 55k out the door it would be a good deal as well. The comparable car from GM (2SS w/ 1LE package) is 56k which is about where the DH-P should be maybe 59k (and adding the CF wheels >handling pack required

    • @kenwolf2431
      @kenwolf2431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Yeah what were they thinking its faster on the track than a ZL1 1LE chevy's top Camaro with all the track stuff and sticky tires. The non handling pack Dark Horse is the faster straight line car it does not have the areo big wing to slow it down. Just wait to the track version of the GT500 comes out it will be game over. Since the old GT500 with the carbon fibre track pack smokes any Camaro on track or in the straight line per Motor Trend.

    • @cantbsdave
      @cantbsdave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not a Camaro fan overall but I agree.

    • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
      @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lealandyoung had to be meth as good habberdash doesnt make you want to build & drive a mustang

  • @grimrobinson5269
    @grimrobinson5269 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    I love James' comments on how he's a dad, can't do this anymore. Then immediately saying let's do it again!😂

    • @iqgamer5085
      @iqgamer5085 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Noone noticed this but a few! It was the best

  • @Aram0978
    @Aram0978 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving the drone takes guys

  • @husnainkhan5197
    @husnainkhan5197 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy to see both of you chemps

  • @lance_auto
    @lance_auto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    throttle house! y’all never fail to delivery no matter what car and whenever. thanks for some great content.

  • @glenralph
    @glenralph 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    21:18 "The Dark Horse should not be underestimated." Very clever fellas. I love it. Well done.

  • @BOOSTEDDUDE
    @BOOSTEDDUDE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review of these muscle cars! Impressive time in the Dark Horse. The Dodge name jokes were hilariously!

  • @Ccm10000
    @Ccm10000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    @throttlehouse
    guys you need to test a GT350R with fresh cup 2’s around your track

  • @DPCcars
    @DPCcars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    Watching these three titans of muscle go head-to-head is like witnessing the end of an era. The LT1 keeps up with the Dark Horse, and you save $20K! 💸 It's bittersweet knowing this might be their last showdown as new cars. Anyone else wish we could've seen the Mach1 tackle the track with the Dark Horse's wheel setup? Major kudos for this nostalgic ride, guys! 👏🚗💨 #EndOfAnEra

    • @wolfscreek6106
      @wolfscreek6106 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      yea tthe fact Chevy and Dodge are bowing out is depressing. Atlest Ford took the Porsche stance and chose not to succumb too electrification entirely.

    • @TIMOTHYKni
      @TIMOTHYKni 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They won't do it because i think the mach1 will smash it

    • @tcd42019
      @tcd42019 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Put those same tires on any camaro even the base ss bet it smokes a dark horse this new mustang gen of cars is 💩 for how much they cost

    • @TIMOTHYKni
      @TIMOTHYKni 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tcd42019 will definitely give you the cost factor, but don't kid yourself. Randy Pobst ran the Mach 1 and the SS 1LE on the same tire and the Mach 1 smoked it

    • @TIMOTHYKni
      @TIMOTHYKni 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tcd42019 and i was referring to the Mach 1 smoking the Dark horse

  • @Lucas-ie2ti
    @Lucas-ie2ti 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    To be faster then a M2CS for almost $100k and right under a M5CS which is well over $100k at $61k+ is seriously impressive. I'm not a huge fan of American cars but the dark horse is really nice!

    • @norwegianblue2017
      @norwegianblue2017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      The Dodge Viper ACR lap time still blows me away. 2.5s faster than the M5 CS. Even faster than a Porsche 911 GT3 w/ CUP2 tires.

    • @Lucas-ie2ti
      @Lucas-ie2ti 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@norwegianblue2017 oh yeah! That thing breaks the laws of physics. It's absurd. But it's also quite pricey haha. For $61k the dark horse is a serious "bang for buck"... I wonder how much better it can be if you do some light mods and more weight reduction

    • @maximborodyuk3773
      @maximborodyuk3773 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      DH in the video would cost you 75k+ though. HP is pricey.

    • @koldpizza
      @koldpizza 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i got a base model DH six speed with HP and recaros for 67.5k@@maximborodyuk3773

    • @Tattle-by-Tale
      @Tattle-by-Tale 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maximborodyuk3773 And it's still a bargain compared to the other vehicles it performs against.

  • @marcusturner5291
    @marcusturner5291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video keep up the good work my brothers

  • @keilwhittles9190
    @keilwhittles9190 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a great video all 3 did well 392 hasn't seen a big refresh since it came out in 2011 just the 10 hp gain in 2015 and didn't do bad considering we're on the 4th gen of coyote and the camaro recieved the lt1 back in 2016 but most of all props to ford for keeping the American muscle car alive

    • @bangbang-ko2gi
      @bangbang-ko2gi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe the manual scat also uses a 3.90 so doesn't help with the long races lol

    • @sleepmeditationmusic1406
      @sleepmeditationmusic1406 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea unfortunately dodge showed no love to the 392.

  • @hey_myk
    @hey_myk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    "the dark horse should not be underestimated" is the best wrapup line I've ever heard

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly, it should be taken at face value. The only option left.

    • @clancas01
      @clancas01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the price is all wrong. You can get a much better car for 61k

    • @alexvranesich6774
      @alexvranesich6774 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@clancas01Toyota Camry hybrid

    • @clancas01
      @clancas01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexvranesich6774 Exactly!

    • @JohnDoe-xl1ig
      @JohnDoe-xl1ig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too bad dealerships have to marked up so insanely I won't even consider buying one.

  • @grimsbychrysler
    @grimsbychrysler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +253

    So glad to see you boys enjoyed the Camaro 🚗💨
    Come see us again some time!

    • @andrewkennedy9704
      @andrewkennedy9704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Thank you for loaning them the camaro.

    • @Inferno45
      @Inferno45 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Can you loan me my dream car plz? 😂

    • @monophobia1885
      @monophobia1885 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are those flappy paddle shifters on the camero?

    • @jamesengelsman9369
      @jamesengelsman9369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The paddles on a manual camaro trigger rev match on and off only @@monophobia1885

    • @andrewkennedy9704
      @andrewkennedy9704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@monophobia1885 yes. On manual ones they are used to turn off and on the rev match.

  • @rodwinmalinga
    @rodwinmalinga 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Those Drone Shots Tho' 🔥!

  • @fd797
    @fd797 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The banter is good. I wouldn't have minded to hear the other cars around the track though. One last time.

  • @rayzorjay7331
    @rayzorjay7331 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ouch... as soon as I saw the stock 245's on the LT1 I knew it was going to not be great for the Camaro, lol. We have 1LE replica wheels on the way for my wife's LT1. It'll be 305 rear 285 front.

  • @awesomeingsauce
    @awesomeingsauce 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I’d like to see a GT350 vs Dark Horse comparison. Should be good!

  • @sinosleep007
    @sinosleep007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I know it's a boat and it's never going to the quickest thing around, but I love my challenger. Massive trunk, usable back seats, enough power to be a bit of a hooligan when I want to be, and I get compliments on it all the time even though there are a million of em out there.

    • @daadvanzdone2335
      @daadvanzdone2335 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mopar or No Car

    • @Evolution10X
      @Evolution10X 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daadvanzdone2335mopar is short for more parts

  • @kevintaylor1928
    @kevintaylor1928 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys crack me up every time!😂

  • @TheJosesrt4
    @TheJosesrt4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Love the Dark horse! Sad to see the other two gone once again. Hopefully they will make a comeback once again in the future. 🤙🏽

    • @mikeyates1785
      @mikeyates1785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If they don’t go Hybrids yiu can kiss the sports car industry goodbye as we know it

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only electric, fascist politics force western car manufacturers to only sell cars nobody wants and basically selfdestruct while China produces more pollution and co2 than the rest of the world combined and they are laughing about us stupid westerners they will soon enslave..
      It’s absolutely disgusting!
      Inform yourself about China, it’s the most fascist country on this planet and Xi already killed more innocent people in his genocide against the Uighur than Hitler did!
      Only Mao killed more people and oh he also was a fascist Chinese..

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In ev version and v6 twin version yes

  • @FLBoyCanScrap
    @FLBoyCanScrap 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +292

    The Dark Horse being faster around the track than a ZL1 1LE is genuinely astonishing.
    Wish we got an unmoddified Mach 1 time but it is what it is.

    • @xiborgh
      @xiborgh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is it?

    • @FLBoyCanScrap
      @FLBoyCanScrap 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      @@xiborgh Yes bc ZL1 1LE's multimatic suspension and 150 more hp.

    • @joshualewis393
      @joshualewis393 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      This track is suited for a car like this Dark Horse. Its a small track with hardly any real straights. Put the Dark Horse on a real track like VIR where Car and Driver does the Lightning Lap, the ZL1 and the ZL1 1LE will still outpace the Dark Horse.
      Still great to see how well the Dark Horse does but it's always more apples to apples "comparison" if all vehicles have the exact same tires. I need to lookup these tires the Dark Horse has and see how they compare to the SC3/SC3r and Sport Cup 2.

    • @xiborgh
      @xiborgh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FLBoyCanScrap I didn’t see the full video. So impressive

    • @xiborgh
      @xiborgh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@joshualewis393 boost the dark horse then. The gt500 is faster than the 1le

  • @efs83dws
    @efs83dws 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Throttle House is in a class by itself. Good job.

  • @jimdrivas4949
    @jimdrivas4949 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The GT and the Dark Horse use different 6-speed transmissions. The GT uses the Getrag MT-82 and the Dark Horse uses the Tremec TR-3160. Hence the shifting differences in the two cars.

    • @mumbachabwe8881
      @mumbachabwe8881 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could you care to elaborate more?

  • @Orangefurygt350
    @Orangefurygt350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Best Dark Horse video and comparison I’ve seen yet. I’d love to see how the dark horse stack up against a GT350 and a GT350R

    • @eriklars9
      @eriklars9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I would like to see this as well along with the Mach 1. The gt350r is something special.

    • @Nah5534
      @Nah5534 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Faster around a track more than likely, the mach 1 was quicker than the gt350

    • @FredStark-rl3nu
      @FredStark-rl3nu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would be an amazing video to compare 350R with track alignment with mach1 and Dark horse set up the same with fresh tires.

    • @eriklars9
      @eriklars9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am curious to see which one is faster around a track, although the differences in tires between all of them presents challenges. I believe the Mach 1 with the track pack and GT350R would be on the same cup 2's so probably evenly matched (with respect to tires.) However, I am most interested in seeing which one is most engaging. After watching the video, my choice would the Mach 1 from the comments Thomas said, that's why I am curious how it stacks against the gt350r.

    • @90blkbrd
      @90blkbrd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hennessey raced them in a straight line. The R walked the DH.

  • @pletonicsolids
    @pletonicsolids 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Shoutout to the guy that lent his brand new $100K+ car to these guys to drag race and drift around a track.

    • @flieger8332
      @flieger8332 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The mustang is only like 70k

    • @NicholasRobertsvalleyford
      @NicholasRobertsvalleyford 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have this exact dark horse available with recaro seats and 6 speed tremec for sale at sticker right now. New with 32miles

    • @5.0_marcus
      @5.0_marcus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lmao this guy 😂​@NicholasRobertsvalleyford

  • @AmericanCarFan1234
    @AmericanCarFan1234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful race❤

  • @moyacosta6223
    @moyacosta6223 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm always rooting for gm but something about seeing these three together just makes me smile

  • @Ravaniscool
    @Ravaniscool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The charisma of this channel is amazing! Definitely one of the very best on TH-cam! Thank you for all your efforts, it is greatly appreciated!

  • @keirinmaster
    @keirinmaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    You guys are "gold." So much fun to watch, and listen, to you guys. Thanks for making this awesome content and taking some of the "boring" out of my life.

  • @G-Rated
    @G-Rated 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lol. It’s completely insane how the Camaro’s design still looks brand new next to that brand new redesigned Ford Mustang! Timeless design for sure! 🔥 💨

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed! Love the 6th gen Camaro styling overall.

  • @Tusuperbis
    @Tusuperbis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like all the cars tested. Been watching reviews on the new mustangs and i like them. The price point of each of the mustang models is extravagant and doesnt represent much value to the consumer. Ill keep my 2020 1SS 1LE Camaro for the foreseeable future!

  • @DullerCrab
    @DullerCrab 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    That Camaro is running on 2016 architecture, to hold up that well is impressive. Easy to add performance gains with cheap mods & it’s a monster.

    • @michaeljosey879
      @michaeljosey879 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      And that dodge is realistically running on 2013-2015 tech as far as drivetrain is concerned….. I should know…. I drive a charger and have spent way too much money upgrading it cuz dodge cheaped out on their cars

    • @DaOldSchoolRapLova96
      @DaOldSchoolRapLova96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Crazy to think that both the Camaro and the Scat are from 15-16ish in terms of Tech and Chassis

    • @MaddNomad1015
      @MaddNomad1015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ⁠@@DaOldSchoolRapLova96the challenger chassis is older then that

    • @Darion350
      @Darion350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Isn't the Mustang on the same platform as the old s550 back in 2015?

    • @tamimalkawari271
      @tamimalkawari271 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      its a lt1 rs too not a ss

  • @josephjenness6956
    @josephjenness6956 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @ThrottleHouse there’s nothing better than coming home from a long day of work and seeing a new video from throttle house uploaded. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You guys are amazing!

  • @jamariusberry4472
    @jamariusberry4472 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CONGRATS CARSON!!

  • @samjoiner7955
    @samjoiner7955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been waiting for this video, my 3 favorite cars with real transmissions

    • @chasesmith2874
      @chasesmith2874 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except the Camaro has paddle shifters.....

    • @samjoiner7955
      @samjoiner7955 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chasesmith2874 they turn on and off the rev matching

    • @chasesmith2874
      @chasesmith2874 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samjoiner7955 oh. I'm guessing so they can use the same wheel for every car whether an auto or manual?

  • @petermeister7191
    @petermeister7191 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    All of them have great engines! Glorious V8 and I´m proud to own one of these last V8 masterpieces (ZL1 6MT). Regards from a german petrol head!

  • @jovani6044
    @jovani6044 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Can never go wrong with Throttle house when it comes to races 💪🏽🔥

  • @BarbacoaAppliances818
    @BarbacoaAppliances818 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    At 4:23 the look on his face is priceless
    That is a reaction of a comeback and getting smoked in a dark horse by the lt1 lol

    • @josephearley605
      @josephearley605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure I see your point. The Camaro lost. Also I think it was a look of determination

    • @BarbacoaAppliances818
      @BarbacoaAppliances818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephearley605 lol camaro never loses

    • @BarbacoaAppliances818
      @BarbacoaAppliances818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephearley605 look at the price difference, who’s the real winner

    • @josephearley605
      @josephearley605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@BarbacoaAppliances818depending on where you buy it the dark horse is between a few thousand to $15,000 cheeper at least in the US

    • @josephearley605
      @josephearley605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BarbacoaAppliances818 depending on where you buy it the dark horse is between a few too around $15,000 cheeper at least in America

  • @jonnygun5055
    @jonnygun5055 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The challenger is the only one of these not trying to be a sports car. It is unapologetically a muscle car I feel like people often overlook that in the comparison. They are all awesome in their own right and it’s a shame to see dodge and Chevrolet’s offerings go away but those of us that have one of them won’t let them be forgotten.

    • @AK_Ray
      @AK_Ray 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That's because the big fat challenger is a muscle car. The Camaro and the mustang have never been muscle cars. They are pony cars, and have always been pony cars.

    • @jonnygun5055
      @jonnygun5055 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AK_Rayhow about you ray? Are you a mustang owner?

    • @AK_Ray
      @AK_Ray 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jonnygun5055 I am not

    • @mr.duckbill9538
      @mr.duckbill9538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AK_Raynot anymore

    • @hunnidbandchan9383
      @hunnidbandchan9383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a rt

  • @bolt5564
    @bolt5564 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I know I'm not a young side, but it's really hard for me to imagine a world without the Mustang competing against the Camaro and Challenger.

    • @deborahwilson4684
      @deborahwilson4684 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do u mean FoundOnRoadDead? I smoke 'em for a snack-like I do to Corvettes. Been doing it since age 12. Didn't matter if my car wasn't as fast either! Currently driving Charger Scat Pack Widebody 392. Only bought a Dodge to make a nice profit after Dodge switches to electric cars. Already getting offers a LOT higher than what I paid for it! Thanks Dodge for the extra green coming soon!

    • @MaddNomad1015
      @MaddNomad1015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s happened before. Mustang just competed with foreign cars (Nissan Z) until the other 2 came back. Now we’re back to the Mustang going back to that and dipping it’s toes against other luxury performance cars in the price range.

    • @twilightmedia8575
      @twilightmedia8575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deborahwilson4684 are you all there?

    • @brucedavidson7422
      @brucedavidson7422 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@deborahwilson4684I don’t think those corvettes are trying…

    • @Operation3P
      @Operation3P 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deborahwilson4684You are so cool

  • @sarifarsitv4974
    @sarifarsitv4974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    By far the best motor channel on TH-cam.. Best 2 hosts iv ever seen.. The whole vibes between them is insane 👌

    • @mrael6304
      @mrael6304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are correct sir.

  • @IntegraTypeSPerformance
    @IntegraTypeSPerformance 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video! Nice 👍🏽

  • @camaro69green31
    @camaro69green31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The "CLONED" Rear Camaro fenders make the mustang look so much better.

  • @Benjii002
    @Benjii002 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    We need more Thomas and James, the chemistry is the closest thing to original top gear levels of entertainment

    • @nicholassmith7048
      @nicholassmith7048 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well they do have another channel called Extra Throttle House for those looking for more.

    • @Darion350
      @Darion350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's what disappointed me with newer Top Gear and The Grand Tour. For an unscripted show, it sure felt scripted. This still feels as though they're flying by the seat of their pants.

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    The Dark Horse Looks sick actually

    • @willsfrantz
      @willsfrantz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it does look the best...especially in that roll up shot

    • @arthurwright255
      @arthurwright255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mustang is the coolest, Challenger looks the meanest, and the Camaro is dorky looking.

    • @TiTee
      @TiTee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@arthurwright255its the cheapest and it looks cool. Also it's faster than the "meaner" challenger.

    • @Stevie4171
      @Stevie4171 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@arthurwright255lt1 looks worse than the ss.

    • @Bhunky_
      @Bhunky_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Stevie4171true, cant help but look any time i see an SS. Something about it makes it way more imposing. Idk what it is specifically because im not too familiar with what the SS package gives you. But they’re definitely sick

  • @AllSeeingEye91
    @AllSeeingEye91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait for mine, delivery early 2024 👍💯

  • @gt4rs05
    @gt4rs05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What light balance settings do you use on GoPro to actually see out window with the interior mounting behind the driver?

  • @jacoblee5209
    @jacoblee5209 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    James adds so much character to TH. Love the guy

  • @jbm0866
    @jbm0866 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I can't be the only one who prefers the look of the previous gen Mustang...inside and out. It just looks like the natural evolution of the original mustang while the new one has hints of GM about it in some ways. In any case, it's very sad cars like this are going away...and it's not for the reasons we're being spoonfed😤

    • @jbruce8633
      @jbruce8633 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No kidding! At first glance it looks like the Camaro front end, then from the side as well!

    • @jbm0866
      @jbm0866 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jbruce8633 I know Ford had to make it different enough to seem like an all new generation, but to my eyes the little tweaks they made during the lifespan of the last gen got the stang looking near perfect. I think they should have stayed the course and simply made further minor tweaks instead of going for an all new look. It really stood out to me when they had both gens parked next to each other. To me the current Mustang looks like Ford hired a bunch of GM stylists...and maybe they did since GM is getting out of the car business altogether while Ford is still hanging on with at least one? Idk man...just wish the new gen looked better.

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a Hellcat Challenger. The nice thing about it was the larger interior space. The bad thing was the weight and body roll...

  • @user-pb9hb1wg3o
    @user-pb9hb1wg3o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maravilhosos. Ainda terei os três 😅

  • @ImTheSlyDevil
    @ImTheSlyDevil 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Mach 1 and dark horse - what a couple of absolute machines. Thomas put in some work with those lap times.

  • @390fe451
    @390fe451 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Truly sad that this is the last year these 3 exist as new cars together. Really would have liked to see the Mach1 do a lap with the Dark Horse wheel / tire combo. Great video guys!

    • @teemeaux3830
      @teemeaux3830 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ford didn’t let people test the Mach. I think it’s cuz it’s prolly faster than the dark horse

    • @unfairsanic5089
      @unfairsanic5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@teemeaux3830for the money id rather go for mach 1

    • @ZackNakazora1
      @ZackNakazora1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@teemeaux3830I agree. Weight says it all

    • @CaseyCollier
      @CaseyCollier 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@teemeaux3830
      The Dark Horse wasn't even around when the Mach 1 originally came out, so I find what you said hard to believe. More than likely, it was just a strict corporate policy made by some uptight pencil pusher at Ford.

    • @teemeaux3830
      @teemeaux3830 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CaseyCollier it’s called ford planning ahead. When the Mach was out they were developing the dh. Don’t be naive.

  • @Ufo2__energy_freedom
    @Ufo2__energy_freedom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alex kowaliuk here love you guys, love the dark horse even more. Cheers

  • @karanjitsingh_
    @karanjitsingh_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite Mustang

  • @claytonclarke5540
    @claytonclarke5540 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Loved the FPV drone shots in this video. Great pilot whoever they are. Great vid as usual gentlemen.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Since James is having a baby his dad jokes are gonna hit different

  • @berky1976
    @berky1976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Three cars that will be forever collected around the world. Part of me is sad to see them go. But part of me is excited to see what comes next. If its nothing, well... we can always purchase an icon from the 2020's. 🙂

    • @jwp882000
      @jwp882000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turbo 6 cylinders are nothing to look forward to so most muscle car fans are not excited about the death of most naturally aspirated V-8’s. I’m certainly not but to each his own.

  • @jamesrose1641
    @jamesrose1641 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mascara!?... love the show!

  • @powerboatguy2308
    @powerboatguy2308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Essentially a driver's race with the manuals, which makes them so awesome.

  • @ER-1.1
    @ER-1.1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great episode Throttle House! you guys killed it again. Congrats to Carson as well!!

  • @Killer91109
    @Killer91109 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time James starts singing Dark Horse it absolutely sends me 😂😂😂

  • @3migsu
    @3migsu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    21:08 That black plastic part under the frontal light remind me the Civic 2018 XD

  • @jordantobins681
    @jordantobins681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Anytime a new Throttle House video comes out I always hit the like button before even watching the video. I know that it’s going to be awesome before it even starts.

  • @4g5y
    @4g5y 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was not sure about the new Mustang design over the old one, but the Dark Horse looks so so good! wow 😍

  • @joshgilmore5986
    @joshgilmore5986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The advertisement after🤣 made the joke funnier 14:25

  • @georgeboros263
    @georgeboros263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should have the leaderboard posted on your site that we can click on any car and see the laps run on your track!

  • @gabem8119
    @gabem8119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That dark horse front end looks tough, I love that!

  • @andrewwelsh3926
    @andrewwelsh3926 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Camaro being the 2nd fastest while being the cheapest makes it most bang for buck it seems.
    Great video guys! Love the channel!

    • @AGhostRiderR
      @AGhostRiderR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And being based on last gen car from 2016 without cup2 r type tires

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Too bad GM is killing it (again)

    • @MaddNomad1015
      @MaddNomad1015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@angelgjr1999if it’s name isn’t “Corvette” they don’t care

  • @youngrios
    @youngrios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:46 im so using this 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @JoshuaBardwell
    @JoshuaBardwell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see a compete lap chased by the drone. Kudos to the pilot those chase clips were excellent.

  • @majesticgreek3646
    @majesticgreek3646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    God this channel deserves so much more recognition. Literally new age top gear man.

    • @URsooomad8613
      @URsooomad8613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What an absolute 🤡 thing to say
      Their lap times are garbage and don't even come relatively close to being accurate. Get a real driver (like the REAL Top Gear did) or don't do lap times at all😂

    • @majesticgreek3646
      @majesticgreek3646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@URsooomad8613 ok loser lmao

  • @rwilson4073
    @rwilson4073 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The real star of the show here are those brand new Trofeo RS tires. I've only ever seen them on the Pagani Utopia, and they're a telling sign of the future of tire tech. Those tires allowed the 4000 lb Dark Horse to stop shorter than any car in Motortrend testing history, beating out the GT2 RS and Viper ACR, and likely trade blows with Cup 2 Rs in various performance areas.

    • @NW99SS
      @NW99SS 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even though Thomas spoke to how good they are, it still seems wildly understated. Besting a ZL1 1LE is an incredible feat, so good, the GT500 CFTPs usually can't, and yet here a heavier Dark Horse did just that (not same day, I understand that). Those tires are game changers.

    • @al151
      @al151 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We need a same tire same day test with zl1 1le and ss 1le as well. If those tires are that sticky there will be a good amount of time saving on that road coarse

  • @user-vd2hr5jm2v
    @user-vd2hr5jm2v 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve had 2 of each. V6 Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger and V8 Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger. The best to drive were both Camaros they’re very nimble and sporty. The second best were the Challengers, they were huge and look awesome and fun in a non-serious way, the Mustang V8 was the fastest in a straight line and straight piped sounded amazing but the least fun to drive.

  • @zimelengobese2811
    @zimelengobese2811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this mustang