Wore the carbon x in a 10k this weekend and set a recent pr for me. Keeps the legs turning over in that last mile and let's you pick up the pace easier than the Rincon for sure. I find it quite a bit better than the zoom fly Flyknit - way different with not as much spring but a ton more stable and quite a bit lighter on the foot
Hey Stuart. As I suspected these work well at a variety of distances. Training saw me undertake a 13 mile run yesterday, in these I was able to keep at target pace without issue. They roll you forward. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Hey Ivan. I think your right, only limited stores have it in stock, and not all runners wish to chance an online purchase. That aside it wasn’t easy to get this pair. I had to call on Scotland! Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Great job with this review. Looks like these could easily do 300 miles. The added stability and width on these are also attractive . It's always a real positive to have a go to versatile shoe when training like you are for an upcoming race.
Hey Ian. I think you are spot on. 300 miles is probably a very realistic amount for these. Such a light shoe but also so versatile. Let’s hope in the future they don’t change anything about this shoe, I’m sure they will tinker though! Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
I have mixed feelings about the Carbon X: I think it doesn't really work for forefoot strikers, I felt the rocker profile was controlling my foot strike too much and taking away from the toe off. So I ended up subconsciously modifying my footstrike to more midfoot, which means pronatation for me. I then tried the Vaporfly 4% and it felt immediately more natural and could get up on the toes more. Foam is also noticeably more bouncy. So I think your footstrike will determine which shoe you will like more. Also after some gravel runs in the Carbon X, the stones have made huge dents in the outsole foam. (I chose the 4% over the next% just because, by eye, the heel looks more stable.)
1) don't compare the carbon x to nikes 2) your talking rubbish about ur strike 3) heel stable on the eye wtf are you talking about? 4) what on earth are you running on gravel in these shoes for when its an unprotected outsole?? Conclusion (I can be honest as not my channel) you're a total moron.
I’ve ordered a pair of Carbon X SPE running shoes which I’m looking forward to trying. I’ve tried the Clifton but find the cushion too soft, I’ve heard this cushion is much firmer and stable 👍
I've pretty much watched every Carbon X video you have and I've been convinced to get it over the Zoom Fly 3 as my new go-to race shoe (relagating my Zoom Fly Flyknits to mostly training but it served me well on races). Sub'ed as well!
Hey there. I just came back from a run to find this great message. Thanks so much for watching. Hope the carbon x serves you well! Happy running 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Loved this video. I'm new to your channel. Marathoner and I Vlog as well. I'm trying to put my hands on the Carbon X but no stock all over Europe!!! I talked with Hoka and don't know when it will arrive. :(
Greetings and welcome! 😊👍🏼 It does appear the carbon x is a rare commodity. Easily available in the US but difficult to locate in the Uk especially. Only a couple of specialist stores seem to stock it. Many thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Thanks for watching Steve. Glad these are working out for you. All in all a very attractive package at a relatively more wallet friendly price. Happy running 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Hi Edd, great analysis/video as always, i have 2 questions from this video...hope you can provide some info thanks. 1) Is this shoe tts, are you wearing ur normal size in this? 2) which shoe give you more speed and propulsion, this or the Nike ZF3?
Hey Danny. Defiantly true to size in this one, the carbon x is significantly lighter and I feel isn’t massively different in terms of propulsive feel to the ZF3. Thanks as always for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Should I pull the trigger on the new react infinity 2 or these? What’s your preference Edd? Looking for a long run shoe and I’m hammering the original React 🤟🏼 happy weekend Edd 😎
Great review! It is indeed a workhorse of a shoe (I have 1 tts pair with 300 miles). Regarding sizing, it seems that my dedicated race version, which is a 1/2 size up, has a bit more of a springboard effect - though that could be due to fact I use that pair exclusively for racing, so my legs are fresher and stronger (which you discussed in the video). But I also wonder if sizing decision really comes down to a function of the rocker and the particular stride of the runner. I'll see during my tune up race this weekend which will be run with no taper whether there's a difference...
Hey there. Thanks for commenting. Yes could be down to race situation, in training the propulsion is there, just feels a little different to the other plate style shoes. I agree, a great workhorse shoe. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
I found that for me running slow or fast in the carbon x felt natural. When i had the zoom fly 1 when i ran slow it really hurt. I really like the carbon x
Edd, is the Next % for faster runners? You did not mention (or I miss that) that 4% or Next% works well at higher speed (5’-5’30”) per miles and for efficient runners. Solereview talked about it, take a look. Anyway, thanks for the review.
Hello Massi. Certainly those shoe shine brightest at the higher paces, but I feel even runners at lower paces can get some benefits from the next % and carbon x. The more efficient the runner the more benefits are apparent. But I still stand by my view that all runners can see some performance advantages from these shoes. Especially in the shape of shorter recovery times. Many thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Thx for the review. I enjoyed the Hoka Speedgoat 3 and hate the Speedgoat 4. For longer run over 10 miles, I’m looking for shoes that allow my to run without foot pain. Perhaps I should give these a try. Thx a lot!
Hey Allen! They do seem to switch up the feel of their shoes quite a bit between iterations. These are great on foot, light and responsive. Thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
That feels like a good use for this shoe. Though I can see people with a wider foot being unable to use the next%. It can be narrow for some. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Hey Jay. I’m aiming for a marathon in 2020 and that type of shoe is on my radar. Will step up my shoe selection process in the near future in mind of that. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Jay, I use both Beacon 1 and Clifton 6. Bought the latter for those really long easy miles and Clifton 6 delivers! More cushioning than Beacon which you'll welcome when miles pile up. Typical Hoka smooth rocker toe-off. Not as responsive as Beacon but they serve a slightly different purpose.
Geeesh...First run in the CarbonX....This is the stiffest shoe I have ever had. Jury still out for me on this one. Need some more faster workout runs in them to give my verdict.
@@EDDBUD Got about 50K on these shoes now and I must say they are growing on me...20 X 1 minute on/off at 5K pace repeats today and they felt great at those faster paces I must admit. I am contemplating using them in my 10K race Sunday.
Guess I am the odd man out on these. As a forefoot, midfoot striker, I fight this shoe (or the shoe fights me) unless I try to go near 5k pace. The Zoom fly flyknit definitely is easier for me to run in and the shoes weigh almost exactly the same. Carbon X feels heavy to me. I'm sad mine isn't like that hot caramel cookie!
That is a shame Jim, but we are all designed different. I too love that ZF FK, might pop out in them again this week for old times sake. Love that shoe. Thanks for watching and commenting as always. I appreciate it. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Thanks for the review, I had blisters problems with Hoka Arahi and Hoka Rincon, I also use insoles. Do you think I will have the same problem or it's a diferent shoe? Thank you
Probably not, the rincon felt tighter in the arch and toebox to me. The carbon x is more forgiving in terms of its upper material. Hope this is helpful Raul :) Thanks for watching 👍😊🏃♂️
Hey there. In comparison to other shoes I have recently tested such as the Peg turbo 2 and next % they aren’t as cushioned and a little rigid. That rigidity mellows over time and now I feel the midsole and plate work exceptionally well. A shoe for all days for me. Many thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Hey Edd: a year later, how many miles did you get from these Carbon x’s? I’ve had three pairs now (cos they feel lush), and it feels like the midsole completely kind of collapses around the 220 mile mark....?
I benched it at 115 miles. Too rigid and firm for my liking. It feels like the shoe wants me to run a specific way that is quite different to my normal cycle. Just about to head out the door in the carbon x 2! 😊
Love your reviews. I am looking for something new as I am usually running in Nike Zoom Flys. How does this shoe compare in terms of ride/speed? Honestly I am looking for a faster training shoe(use the Next% for racing) that will be forgiving in the latter stages... Had the Hoka Clifton's in the past and didn't feel the one one... Thank you!
Thanks very much Adrian, i am really glad that are enjoying the reviews. The carbon x is much more rigid and less forgiving than the zoom fly. Maybe look at the endorphin speed. A superb tempo shoe and much lighter than the ZF and carbon x. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching 👍🏃♂️😊
EDDBUD big thanks... the only issue these days is finding a pair! Everything seems to be sold out, hence the question about the Hoka’s which I have found at a decent price(-29%). I think I’ll pull the trigger! Keep the review coming! Excellent stuff;)
You mention only 20 pounds difference from the 4%? Where did you find the 4% so cheap? (Please share 😉, I would love to buy also those) In my country the difference is much more.
Hey Simone. Certainly on stock x, and on the Nike site there are discounts to be had, when using deals I have never paid more than £180 for the 4%. That aside I got the Carbon X a little cheaper than retail from a Scottish website. Hard to get hold of over here. Few stores stock Hoka shoes. Thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
@@EDDBUD not a fan of stock x. Have to look for those nike discount codes. I really want to add the 4% to the collection, I found them cheap but half a size more than my number and I believe it would be a risk to buy them. Never seen those discount codes....need to look better
Sometimes they post up codes for %20 etc. Also if someone you know is a student that can also bring some discount. I have had good experiences with stock x. Always quick delivery and authentic.
Hey there. At present I predict 300 miles. There’s a little more wear than I would have expected. On harder terrain the outsole will tarnish that bit quicker as there is no distinct rubber to protect the midsole. Hope this helps. 👍🏼😊
Wore the carbon x in a 10k this weekend and set a recent pr for me. Keeps the legs turning over in that last mile and let's you pick up the pace easier than the Rincon for sure. I find it quite a bit better than the zoom fly Flyknit - way different with not as much spring but a ton more stable and quite a bit lighter on the foot
Hey Stuart. As I suspected these work well at a variety of distances. Training saw me undertake a 13 mile run yesterday, in these I was able to keep at target pace without issue. They roll you forward.
Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Given how difficult it is to track down a pair of Vaporfly 4%, the Carbon X will probably become the go-to shoe for a lot of runners.
Hey Ivan. I think your right, only limited stores have it in stock, and not all runners wish to chance an online purchase. That aside it wasn’t easy to get this pair. I had to call on Scotland! Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Is the 4 mm not too low for 26.2?
Great job with this review. Looks like these could easily do 300 miles. The added stability and width on these are also attractive . It's always a real positive to have a go to versatile shoe when training like you are for an upcoming race.
Hey Ian. I think you are spot on. 300 miles is probably a very realistic amount for these. Such a light shoe but also so versatile. Let’s hope in the future they don’t change anything about this shoe, I’m sure they will tinker though!
Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
I have mixed feelings about the Carbon X:
I think it doesn't really work for forefoot strikers, I felt the rocker profile was controlling my foot strike too much and taking away from the toe off.
So I ended up subconsciously modifying my footstrike to more midfoot, which means pronatation for me.
I then tried the Vaporfly 4% and it felt immediately more natural and could get up on the toes more. Foam is also noticeably more bouncy.
So I think your footstrike will determine which shoe you will like more.
Also after some gravel runs in the Carbon X, the stones have made huge dents in the outsole foam.
(I chose the 4% over the next% just because, by eye, the heel looks more stable.)
Thanks for watching, I think that the outsole could be the thing that goes first on this shoe as it’s taking the brunt of the terrain. 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD Feels great on tar, but gravel tears this shoe apart. Stones also get stuck in the viewing hole for the carbon plate.
I fear the outsole May look more Han Solo in carbonite than Carbon x. 😂
1) don't compare the carbon x to nikes 2) your talking rubbish about ur strike 3) heel stable on the eye wtf are you talking about? 4) what on earth are you running on gravel in these shoes for when its an unprotected outsole?? Conclusion (I can be honest as not my channel) you're a total moron.
I’ve ordered a pair of Carbon X SPE running shoes which I’m looking forward to trying. I’ve tried the Clifton but find the cushion too soft, I’ve heard this cushion is much firmer and stable 👍
I've pretty much watched every Carbon X video you have and I've been convinced to get it over the Zoom Fly 3 as my new go-to race shoe (relagating my Zoom Fly Flyknits to mostly training but it served me well on races). Sub'ed as well!
Hey there. I just came back from a run to find this great message. Thanks so much for watching. Hope the carbon x serves you well! Happy running 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Can't wait for you to review the Hoka Carbon X SPE, coming out this year. I have my eyes set on it for the Berlin Marathon
I like the Billy Ocean reference. Lol. Great 100 mile review, thanks.
Thanks Doug.
I was glad to get these shoes “out of their box and into my dreams”. 👍🏼😂
Thanks will try this for my longer runs
Loved this video. I'm new to your channel. Marathoner and I Vlog as well. I'm trying to put my hands on the Carbon X but no stock all over Europe!!! I talked with Hoka and don't know when it will arrive. :(
Greetings and welcome! 😊👍🏼
It does appear the carbon x is a rare commodity. Easily available in the US but difficult to locate in the Uk especially. Only a couple of specialist stores seem to stock it.
Many thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Smooth shoe. Really versatile. Even good for a slow guy like me
Thanks for watching Steve. Glad these are working out for you. All in all a very attractive package at a relatively more wallet friendly price.
Happy running 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Hi Edd, great analysis/video as always, i have 2 questions from this video...hope you can provide some info thanks.
1) Is this shoe tts, are you wearing ur normal size in this?
2) which shoe give you more speed and propulsion, this or the Nike ZF3?
Hey Danny. Defiantly true to size in this one, the carbon x is significantly lighter and I feel isn’t massively different in terms of propulsive feel to the ZF3.
Thanks as always for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Should I pull the trigger on the new react infinity 2 or these? What’s your preference Edd? Looking for a long run shoe and I’m hammering the original React 🤟🏼 happy weekend Edd 😎
Great review! It is indeed a workhorse of a shoe (I have 1 tts pair with 300 miles). Regarding sizing, it seems that my dedicated race version, which is a 1/2 size up, has a bit more of a springboard effect - though that could be due to fact I use that pair exclusively for racing, so my legs are fresher and stronger (which you discussed in the video). But I also wonder if sizing decision really comes down to a function of the rocker and the particular stride of the runner. I'll see during my tune up race this weekend which will be run with no taper whether there's a difference...
Hey there. Thanks for commenting. Yes could be down to race situation, in training the propulsion is there, just feels a little different to the other plate style shoes. I agree, a great workhorse shoe. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
I found that for me running slow or fast in the carbon x felt natural. When i had the zoom fly 1 when i ran slow it really hurt. I really like the carbon x
A really great shoe. Super impressed with it. Thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Edd, is the Next % for faster runners? You did not mention (or I miss that) that 4% or Next% works well at higher speed (5’-5’30”) per miles and for efficient runners. Solereview talked about it, take a look. Anyway, thanks for the review.
Hello Massi. Certainly those shoe shine brightest at the higher paces, but I feel even runners at lower paces can get some benefits from the next % and carbon x. The more efficient the runner the more benefits are apparent. But I still stand by my view that all runners can see some performance advantages from these shoes. Especially in the shape of shorter recovery times. Many thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Next and 4% is ONLY suitable for v fast runners. Everyone else just looks like a rich fool and a pretentious tw*t.
Thx for the review. I enjoyed the Hoka Speedgoat 3 and hate the Speedgoat 4. For longer run over 10 miles, I’m looking for shoes that allow my to run without foot pain. Perhaps I should give these a try. Thx a lot!
Hey Allen!
They do seem to switch up the feel of their shoes quite a bit between iterations.
These are great on foot, light and responsive. Thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
i would use this shoe in my training long runs because it looks like it last but vaporfly will always shines in race
That feels like a good use for this shoe. Though I can see people with a wider foot being unable to use the next%. It can be narrow for some.
Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
@@EDDBUD i just wish it was more affordable to race lol
Very good video. How many miles did you get out of them (a year later)?
Thanks, benched them after this sadly, bit too tough on the old knees :)
@@EDDBUD Thanks for the quick reply! Keep up the good work :D
Have you tried the Hoka Clifton 6? Trying to find a long distant marathon training shoe for my long runs...currently using FuelCell Rebel and Beacon.
Hey Jay. I’m aiming for a marathon in 2020 and that type of shoe is on my radar. Will step up my shoe selection process in the near future in mind of that.
Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Jay, I use both Beacon 1 and Clifton 6. Bought the latter for those really long easy miles and Clifton 6 delivers! More cushioning than Beacon which you'll welcome when miles pile up. Typical Hoka smooth rocker toe-off. Not as responsive as Beacon but they serve a slightly different purpose.
Ari Ojansivu thank you!
Geeesh...First run in the CarbonX....This is the stiffest shoe I have ever had. Jury still out for me on this one. Need some more faster workout runs in them to give my verdict.
Hey Monte. They do mellow out after some miles. Certainly didn’t feel super stiff to me, rigid but they do give after time. 👍🏼😊
@@EDDBUD Got about 50K on these shoes now and I must say they are growing on me...20 X 1 minute on/off at 5K pace repeats today and they felt great at those faster paces I must admit. I am contemplating using them in my 10K race Sunday.
Monte Comeau I’m glad they are becoming more comfortable and growing on you. My favourite shoe of the year so far! 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Guess I am the odd man out on these. As a forefoot, midfoot striker, I fight this shoe (or the shoe fights me) unless I try to go near 5k pace. The Zoom fly flyknit definitely is easier for me to run in and the shoes weigh almost exactly the same. Carbon X feels heavy to me. I'm sad mine isn't like that hot caramel cookie!
That is a shame Jim, but we are all designed different. I too love that ZF FK, might pop out in them again this week for old times sake. Love that shoe. Thanks for watching and commenting as always. I appreciate it. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
@@EDDBUD Aren't we lucky to have so many amazing shoes to choose from! Great time to be a runner!! Thanks again for the content.
I second that Jim! Too many to choose from, but fun trying them out all the same. 👍🏼
Thanks for the review, I had blisters problems with Hoka Arahi and Hoka Rincon, I also use insoles.
Do you think I will have the same problem or it's a diferent shoe?
Thank you
Probably not, the rincon felt tighter in the arch and toebox to me. The carbon x is more forgiving in terms of its upper material.
Hope this is helpful Raul :)
Thanks for watching 👍😊🏃♂️
They are Soft Cushioned & not Rigid !
Actually there the Best Hoka, Has the Best Features for all circumstances compare to all the other Hokas & Nikes
Hey there. In comparison to other shoes I have recently tested such as the Peg turbo 2 and next % they aren’t as cushioned and a little rigid. That rigidity mellows over time and now I feel the midsole and plate work exceptionally well. A shoe for all days for me. Many thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Hey Edd: a year later, how many miles did you get from these Carbon x’s? I’ve had three pairs now (cos they feel lush), and it feels like the midsole completely kind of collapses around the 220 mile mark....?
I benched it at 115 miles. Too rigid and firm for my liking. It feels like the shoe wants me to run a specific way that is quite different to my normal cycle. Just about to head out the door in the carbon x 2! 😊
@@EDDBUD thanks - enjoy your run!
Love your reviews. I am looking for something new as I am usually running in Nike Zoom Flys. How does this shoe compare in terms of ride/speed? Honestly I am looking for a faster training shoe(use the Next% for racing) that will be forgiving in the latter stages... Had the Hoka Clifton's in the past and didn't feel the one one... Thank you!
Thanks very much Adrian, i am really glad that are enjoying the reviews. The carbon x is much more rigid and less forgiving than the zoom fly.
Maybe look at the endorphin speed. A superb tempo shoe and much lighter than the ZF and carbon x. Hope this helps.
Thanks for watching 👍🏃♂️😊
EDDBUD big thanks... the only issue these days is finding a pair! Everything seems to be sold out, hence the question about the Hoka’s which I have found at a decent price(-29%). I think I’ll pull the trigger! Keep the review coming! Excellent stuff;)
Is the 4 mm not too low for 26.2?
@@Kittendoc 4mm?
You mention only 20 pounds difference from the 4%? Where did you find the 4% so cheap? (Please share 😉, I would love to buy also those)
In my country the difference is much more.
Hey Simone.
Certainly on stock x, and on the Nike site there are discounts to be had, when using deals I have never paid more than £180 for the 4%.
That aside I got the Carbon X a little cheaper than retail from a Scottish website. Hard to get hold of over here. Few stores stock Hoka shoes.
Thanks for watching. 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
@@EDDBUD not a fan of stock x. Have to look for those nike discount codes. I really want to add the 4% to the collection, I found them cheap but half a size more than my number and I believe it would be a risk to buy them. Never seen those discount codes....need to look better
Sometimes they post up codes for %20 etc. Also if someone you know is a student that can also bring some discount.
I have had good experiences with stock x. Always quick delivery and authentic.
@@EDDBUD My concern is with the autenticity and the fact they may sell used shoes? Have to try it
If you rarely run over 10k like a descent tempo but rarely race .... Carbon X or Carbon Rocket ?
The rocket is very low drop. Could be tough on the Achilles. Carbon x probably more an all rounder. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching 👍🏼😊🏃🏻♂️
Menagerie 🤟🏼 😎
Is it any good for trail running?
It’s not great on slippery surfaces and the upper is very flimsy. Not the best option for trails. Thanks for watching 😊👍🏼🏃🏻♂️
Is the 4 mm not too low for 26.2?
How many miles can one get out of this shoe?
Hey there. At present I predict 300 miles. There’s a little more wear than I would have expected. On harder terrain the outsole will tarnish that bit quicker as there is no distinct rubber to protect the midsole. Hope this helps. 👍🏼😊
Thanks
Would you get the hola one one carbon x for my easy runs long runs and tempos
I found it a little too firm for easy days. Good for long runs and tempo though. 😊👍🏼🏃🏻♂️
EDDBUD ok thanks