No I definitely agreed. I was excited watching your first vid. I got the shoe, started reaching for them a lot over my new X2’s and preferred them… but now after 150miles in them, they don’t feel springy and fresh and I prefer my Mach’s over it and prefer to race in my Nikes 😢 great reviews. Glad it’s not just me
Pretty much nailed it Mike. I have the Carbon X 2, got in a sale UK £74 so good price. 100 miles in. Initially enjoyed and used it for a very hilly paved half marathon which actually seems to be it's best place and you can benefit from the rocker uphill and heel downhill. However since then, I've found it too firm and on a 20 mile run really hurt my feet. So switched to the ASICS Glideride 3 for my upcoming Chester Marathon this Sunday... Comfort cruising😉
Hi! I have owned the Hoka Carbon X3 for 4 weeks. I ran 3 times and I can say that I am satisfied. What is very important to understand with these shoes is that we have to change and adapt your techniques running. I like to use them for tempo runs. But yes, I am satisfied
IMHO: Hoka One One has been resting on their laurels for way too long. It's time to come up with an improved midsole foam. I find all of their shoes boring, Nike, Saucony and New Balance are lightyears ahead. Keep up the great unbiased reviews.
Great video as always. I got a second hand pair of carbon x2 to see what they are like due to negative or average reviews. I love them. The stability is great due to the wide platform and they roll you through your stride. Comfy and once on I forget about the shoe and cruise at a consistent pace. Great for triathlons as a result in my opinion. Looking forward to the release of the rocket x 2 - perhaps this will finally be a hoka road shoe that wows people
I've been looking at a new shoe as I normally run in Nike Pegasus which did me well being flat footed but I've had some injuries, so I'm looking to change to a new shoe that still offers me stability but being neutral and ok for flat footed runners. Would this work well?
Kofuzi you’re one of my number one, go to channels for shoe reviews. I absolutely love and admire your honesty with this video of the Hoka carbon x. I’m wearing the X2’s right now testing them inside and I really like them. I watched your x2 review video also
I purchased a pair, because I like the initial feel and looks of the shoe. It put a lot of spring in my step and initially hurt my calves of my legs (I have 2 new knees) and have had multiple knee replacements, but after using them they help my feet and legs. All that said, I am retired and paid dearly for these shoes (165 dollars) shoes only and added a pair of Artex insoles and ended up with spending about 230 dollars. I should not have added the Artex insoles because they were not necessary because I did not like the insoles and the standard insole that came in the shoes were sufficient. End result, really too expensive for me. I had to sacrifice other things to try and help my aged legs.
I transitioned from a wide GTS adrenline and a Hoka Bondi to this shoe where the upper let my chubby feet into a regular fit shoe, allowing me ginally to have a carbon plate show that worked. I had a repeat (high arch, long first toe) joint tendonitis issue with high mileage…..the plate fixed that be supporting/restricting the toe box deformation….i recovered with this shoe, went from 50 to a 75 mile per week training peak to my first BQ this year in a well pired Rocket X shoe. Mr K, for an almost elite running rock star like you, this i see is a fair review……but regular schmoes like me, age 55 3/4 after 10 years of failing….it helped me get a BQ so was a game changer….so if you have feet issues, get this shoe….i found the upper durable, soft enough vs other shoes for long run comofort…but not too soft to wear out (+100 miles vs the adrenaline, and 150 miles better than the bondi) nor to coddle the foot and make it weaker. Plus the rocket x pairing was perfect on race day….for me.
Wish I saw this before I picked up 2 pairs for the Chicago Marathon, lol. After several long runs, found myself doing the same - using other options. Now been using the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3s and likely will be my weapon of choice for race day. Hope to see you somewhere race weekend, man!
Love this honest review from you. Got this one for $90. Tried it in a 10km run and I loved it. The first time I used it in a speed session, it was a disaster. However, during the 10km run, after changing my socks, it was fantastic!
I got a carbon X 3, I kind of like the shoe but hate this upper. If you want to get one either get de x 2 which seems a bit better or wait till they release the x 4. The rocket x is also a really good shoe if you want a Hoka with carbon plate and it feels less stiff and clunky.
From a very slow road ultra runner's point of view, the Rocket X is a better half -full marathon and the Carbon-X is a beast for long road ultras. Notwithstanding Endorphin Pro other carbon racers are too unsteady for me.
I get the feeling we are really spoiled as consumers generally speaking. Whether it's running shoes / watches, cars, even when I researched and bought an entry-level digital piano, basically all reviewers seem to have the same take on things: You almost can't go wrong with any popular brand or product. It really just comes down to personal tastes and small preferences. Everything seems to be so dialed-in, and competition is fierce... anything that is below a very tight standard drops off the map in 1 product generation, generally a year or two. This might not be the case in 2024-2025. Corners might have to get cut once again... 90s plastic crap might make a come back.
Loved the Cliftons (7/8) and Rincons (2/3) from Hoka... don't feel like I need anything more from Hoka except these 2 shoe combos for dailys and daily speeds. Great review!
Same here plus I also add the Mach series. I didn't expect much mileage out the RIncon or Mach but am now on my 3rd pair of each and getting well over 400 good miles. Even more on the Cliftons. I don't believe I am a strong enough runner to benefit from carbon plate and so have a hard time justifying the cost.
@@pasadenaphil8804 only other person i've seen that got 400 miles + out of the Mach. i don't know what people are doing in these shoes but they are super durable in my experience. yeah the foam loses something, but any shoe does after 400
@@pasadenaphil8804how are the rincons? I’ve tried the Clifton 8’s and those are too plush for everyday running for me. I’ve tried the carbon X3 and I like them a lot but I’m trying to look into a new pair to try out. Don’t know if I’ll go for the machs yet since I broke my tail bone I’m just starting to be able to go for walks again. I was also looking at the arahi 7 or 8’s those look somewhat similar to the rincons but a bit more expensive
Hi Michael, love you videos. Question, do you find that you need to keep the drop the same with each of your shoes, or can you switch from a, let's say 12mm drop to a 5mm drop with no issues? I run in the Brooks GTS Adrenaline w/a 12mm and I find that even the smallest change, let's say to an 8mm drop makes my achilles feel tight. Do you experience this type of thing? thanks from Ann Arbor
I was looking for a new shoe since I'm starting to feel like my X2s are starting to compress a little too much to where I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable on my feet after 7-8 miles which is something I rarely experienced with Boost or early on. I don't think I'll go for another carbon shoe, or if I do, then I'll probably just keep doing another X2. Thanks for the honest review!! I've always loved the fact that you do the "after 100 miles" reviews as well, they're EXTREMELY helpful.
This is my first version of the carbon x series when I first ran in this shoe I enjoyed it after about 50 miles in this shoe I feel like it flattened out and lost a lot of its pop and springiness which is sad because this is the only hoka shoe where the fit is spot on
Carbon X3 is my first Hoka and frankly am a bit disappointed as it didnt give me the similar level of propulsion or motivation during the run when compare to my retired Vaporfly. I had the other pair of Hoka Speedgoat for trail running and it is really good. I am uncertain if I would get another pair of Hoka road shoes in the future despite it's durability.
I agree, bought the Carbon X3 as a long run trainer, having enjoyed the Carbon X SPE as a steady cruiser at marathon pace. Most aspects of this shoe fit me well, within the intended purpose: fairly stiff, good turnover, comfy upper, excellent stability, built for those Sunday mornings 😉 But ... just like you experienced it, it's a decent pair of shoes that sadly doesn't provide anything more than that. A solid work horse. Not so exciting.
Hi Kofuzi! Many thx for this great review and for maintaining a critical angle despite all the X3 hype! I like your channel very much! I am not worthy of lecturing you on running, but may I ask - are you aware that your foot mechanics during landing/rolling is actually that of a forefoot runner? It‘s clearly visible at 02:19, 04:36, 05:52 or in the slo-mos from the back 02:50, 03:10 or 03:17 that you actually land on your distal midfoot/forefoot. Also when looking at the wear pattern of the sole at 02:41 or 04:11 it‘s quite striking that after 100 miles there is almost no wear on the heel and the heel extension. I bring this up because as a forefoot-leaning runner you might not have any benefit from this class of shoe, because during the landing phase (past the heel) you would not create any deflection of a carbon or whatever plate that could be re-gained during takeoff over the toes. Just a question that crossed my mind. Best wishes and keep on running! Mathias
These are my new go to shoe for recovery runs. I have a set of Novoblast and Pegasus 39,s and find the carbon X3 are actually more comfortable and can run a lot further just cruising along. My foot is wider and usually a 10.5 but went with size 10US. I’m not having any slippage in the heal or lace up issues at this point.
I've got flat feet and I've been looking for carbon plate shoe that still gives me that support for my flat feet. I normally run in Pegasus 39 but I've been looking for a new shoe that will give me that support. In my Pegasus 39s I half size up. Would you recommend I go for these. If so what size would you say as I'm not sure if hoka carbon x 3 are true to size
@@reloadedreapers I’m a 10.5, the half size up from 10 gives me more room for my wide foot. I tried them in store and had to go the half size down to the 10 to get a more firm fit. I would say there not true to size for me.
Great Review! One thing that occurred to me regarding any shoe with a carbon plate is comfort. Especially for racing shoes and the super shoes, I hear people saying that they expect to sacrifice some comfort for a faster shoe. Well I have a hard time understanding this because I personally run faster in shoes that are more comfortable. If a shoe that is designed for speed causes discomfort to my foot, Im going to run slower than a non-super shoe that has more comfort. I have tried the vast majority of super shoes this year and with the exception of the NB FC Elite and the Atreyu The Artist would/could not run more than 13 miles in any other supershoe without experiencing pain. So, I guess my question/comment is, It would make sense to me that any person would run slower in a shoe that is less comfortable, so why do these SUper Shoe?marathon ready shoes focus more on snappyness and responsivness rather than comfort?
Amazing review man,as always 👏 By the way, i want to ask you if you know about New balance fresh foam higher... i saw them today at the store and try them and i was blown away 😳 im asking the expert on shoes about them 😅 🙃 cheers 🍻
I'll be pacing a friend this year. I may address it and my schedule a TH-cam short or something similar. in the meantime, don't forget to check out the Kofuzi Run Club strava group for info on the pizza shakeout
The one thing I can't understand: The elf tab that's supposed to help you put the shoe on. Alright, it may help, but how much time do you waste without it? Two seconds or three? And the ridiculous elf tab collects debris from the unpaved road throughout the run. I am really worried that most running shoes are succumbing to the market for lifestyle shoe absurdities.
I wanted to love the X2 so much but the plate cracks after 50 or so miles. It is so heavy and the foam is so stiff it gives no pop at all, in fact if just slows you down I had to throw mine away, sad to see x3 don’t hold up any better
I did not like the curved heel, because sand gets there. At the first training session, I scraped my heel to the point of blood. The midsole is stiff, there is not enough cushioning, and this top is sewn like a sock - not my story, not enough stiffness.
My first Hokka’s were Rincon2; love ‘em. Now also have carbon X and love those 2. I find myself grabbing them for a run more than I do my Asics magic speed (which I also love). Thanks for the honest review though.
I bet they feel like god's gift to feet.. for the first 100-150 miles and then dead. BTW, Foot Doctor Zach running shoes of the year is the Lotto Volata Hyperpulse 100. He might be my favorite TH-camr.
Love the Clifton OG, 3 to 7, skipped the 8 and got Nike ZoomX invinsible & NB More 3 instead ! I agree, it seems everyone catched up with Hoka, they are not softer than everyone now, they need to innovate !
Same here, they somehow changed the fit of the shoe. Noticed it right away when trying the shoe, especially around my toes. I loved the Clifton 6 and 7 but eventually replaced it with the Asics Nimbus lite 3. While I do like the Asics I will come back to Hoka for my daily easy runs. Already got the Mach 5 which I love but I use that shoe more for my long and tempo runs.
I have the Carbon X 2 and it works well for me, but I am looking for a faster shoe that fits like my other Hokas. I am not racing marathons, I don't want a shoe that I will need to get used to and will only last a very short time, so I'm not your typical Carbon shoe buyer. It's surprising that Hoka aren't really going for an out and out racing Carbon shoe with lots of Pop somewhere in the line up. I think there is a place for a shoe like this, but surely a Super Shoe Race Day shoe is needed from Hoka.
What about speed work on the curves on a track? Will the knit upper keep the foot in place or is it likely that I'd be sliding over the outer edge with my right foot? That was the biggest issue I always had with Altra Excalantes with the more flexible upper.
Hokas hurt my arches. I have had to take back 2 pairs to my LRS. Years ago, I had a pair of Challengers that were pretty alright on the trail, but as of recent Hoka hasn't had anything that felt lovely of my feet. My guilty pleasure is Brooks TBH. It is embarrassing to say LOL
Same here. Wanted to like the Clifton, but I could barely keep on running after just a few miles. My arches felt like they were being cut into at some point. I do have somewhat lower arches, but never had this problem with any other brand.
Wrong - disagree with this guy. I love the x3 its great for me. Well done Hoka. Shoe reviews are waste of time as not every shoe works same way for all people
dude. your comment is internally inconsistent. if what you state is true: "not every shoe works same way for all people," then by your rules, I cannot be wrong. I am merely experiencing the exact phenomenon you cite. reviewers are useful when you find a reviewer who tends to like the same kinds of shoes you do.
Hi Kofuzi Been following your videos for a while now, and not sure if this is the right place to ask. I am having trouble in finding the shoe. Not just Hoka, but Saucony as well. Is there any supply chain problems going on in shoe world ?
Hi x1y2z3. My initial thought is that I might need information like what model you are looking for, which retailers you are searching, and what region of the world you are in. But on second thought, even with any of that information, I'm not sure I can answer that question as I don't get supply chain information from brands. My speculation is that it might come down to the time of year that you are trying to find a certain shoe. We're kind of in between seasons now.
@@kofuzi Thanks for the response. I usually wait a while and get the model based on your reviews. For example, if Mach5 vs Mach4 isnt that much different, I would go for Mach4. Something like that. In that context, I dont find anything from last years model (Carbon X, Mach4, Saucony Endorphin speed 2 etc).
Shoes like this I think (non-runner but hve owned "running shoes") is and should only be used "in a rotation" becasue there is no stability because it's a "cush" shoe. LIke the Nike MIler 3 (which I have...wore it as my only running shoe for months...now my heels roll a lot when I walk...didn't appear for maybe over 7 months...)....Cushy shoes aren't everyday shoes...i guess that's why they call them recovery day shoes...
What shoe would you prepare for the preparation for a marathon and actually running it? I plan to use one type of shoe daily. Thank you for the honest review Kofuzi
I wouldn’t choose just one shoe for both training and racing. The shoes might need replacing before I got to the starting line. But a shoe that is good for both everyday miles and a marathon distance race could be: Novablast 3 Rebel 3 Superblast SC Trainer Deviate Nitro 2
@@kofuzi You have received a sub & like before answering the comment. Now you have received a regular viewer that will spread the word about your channel. Thank you for the advices.
The lack of firm lockdown is a downer. Even with the right size, the “tongue” wrinkles or folds upon itself when laced up. If I wanted to avoid that, I’ll have to go a few sizes down, then it already too small for my feet.
I wore my tecton x's for two ultras and they were the worst things Ive ever put on my feet. I was really disappointed because I was a HUGE hoka fan, blowing through three pairs of ATR 6's and loving the way they felt on distances longer than 20km. The carbon plates and their "responsiveness" is another way of saying that you will be pounding your feet in a hard way. Never again will I buy Hokas, I am an altra runner now. No regrets.
I don’t love the Tecton X as most others seem to. But if you enjoy the ATR, (1) updated version looks really nice although I’m not sure when that is coming, and (2) Mafate Speed 4 is maybe my favorite Hoka this year
I think part of my disappointment with the X3 is that I enjoy so many other Hoka shoes so much. it's like, why can't they get this right when they can do so much else so well?
I am looking for a 100km runningshoe for next summer and i am wondering if the Carbon x3 would be an option for it? ( probably the other carbon racers arent really suitable for such a long distance )
Yeah Mate, I've got the Carbon x3 and definitely think it would be good for a 100k, the rocker's quite good so it will just keep pushing you forward when you are tired, but the shoe is a bit stiff though
Dear people it is worh mentioninig that if you hapen to have any problems with you're Hoka shoes at least in the UK customer service is a joke. You can check Trust pilot reviews to understand how bad it is. So for me at least never again will I buy their shoes.
@@kofuzi you said you find yourself choosing other shoes instead of the carbon 3. So what are those options what are those shoes your finding yourself choosing?
This is why I love your content. You’re honest and critical without being overly negative. Thank you for being positive even in a negative review.
Amen!!! Honest people are diamonds 💎 in this world
No I definitely agreed. I was excited watching your first vid. I got the shoe, started reaching for them a lot over my new X2’s and preferred them… but now after 150miles in them, they don’t feel springy and fresh and I prefer my Mach’s over it and prefer to race in my Nikes 😢 great reviews. Glad it’s not just me
Pretty much nailed it Mike. I have the Carbon X 2, got in a sale UK £74 so good price. 100 miles in. Initially enjoyed and used it for a very hilly paved half marathon which actually seems to be it's best place and you can benefit from the rocker uphill and heel downhill. However since then, I've found it too firm and on a 20 mile run really hurt my feet. So switched to the ASICS Glideride 3 for my upcoming Chester Marathon this Sunday... Comfort cruising😉
Hi! I have owned the Hoka Carbon X3 for 4 weeks. I ran 3 times and I can say that I am satisfied. What is very important to understand with these shoes is that we have to change and adapt your techniques running. I like to use them for tempo runs. But yes, I am satisfied
IMHO: Hoka One One has been resting on their laurels for way too long. It's time to come up with an improved midsole foam. I find all of their shoes boring, Nike, Saucony and New Balance are lightyears ahead. Keep up the great unbiased reviews.
I think Brooks is probably behind on the tech more than anyone.
They are no longer Hoka One One. Just Hoka.
Yup. Plain EVA doesn’t cut it. But people have drunk the Hoka kool aid so the shoes sell well
Great video as always. I got a second hand pair of carbon x2 to see what they are like due to negative or average reviews. I love them. The stability is great due to the wide platform and they roll you through your stride. Comfy and once on I forget about the shoe and cruise at a consistent pace. Great for triathlons as a result in my opinion. Looking forward to the release of the rocket x 2 - perhaps this will finally be a hoka road shoe that wows people
I've been looking at a new shoe as I normally run in Nike Pegasus which did me well being flat footed but I've had some injuries, so I'm looking to change to a new shoe that still offers me stability but being neutral and ok for flat footed runners. Would this work well?
Kofuzi you’re one of my number one, go to channels for shoe reviews. I absolutely love and admire your honesty with this video of the Hoka carbon x. I’m wearing the X2’s right now testing them inside and I really like them. I watched your x2 review video also
I purchased a pair, because I like the initial feel and looks of the shoe. It put a lot of spring in my step and initially hurt my calves of my legs (I have 2 new knees) and have had multiple knee replacements, but after using them they help my feet and legs. All that said, I am retired and paid dearly for these shoes (165 dollars) shoes only and added a pair of Artex insoles and ended up with spending about 230 dollars. I should not have added the Artex insoles because they were not necessary because I did not like the insoles and the standard insole that came in the shoes were sufficient. End result, really too expensive for me. I had to sacrifice other things to try and help my aged legs.
I transitioned from a wide GTS adrenline and a Hoka Bondi to this shoe where the upper let my chubby feet into a regular fit shoe, allowing me ginally to have a carbon plate show that worked. I had a repeat (high arch, long first toe) joint tendonitis issue with high mileage…..the plate fixed that be supporting/restricting the toe box deformation….i recovered with this shoe, went from 50 to a 75 mile per week training peak to my first BQ this year in a well pired Rocket X shoe. Mr K, for an almost elite running rock star like you, this i see is a fair review……but regular schmoes like me, age 55 3/4 after 10 years of failing….it helped me get a BQ so was a game changer….so if you have feet issues, get this shoe….i found the upper durable, soft enough vs other shoes for long run comofort…but not too soft to wear out (+100 miles vs the adrenaline, and 150 miles better than the bondi) nor to coddle the foot and make it weaker. Plus the rocket x pairing was perfect on race day….for me.
Wish I saw this before I picked up 2 pairs for the Chicago Marathon, lol. After several long runs, found myself doing the same - using other options. Now been using the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3s and likely will be my weapon of choice for race day. Hope to see you somewhere race weekend, man!
Loved my X2 and have been enjoying the X3. Great rocker feel.
Love this honest review from you. Got this one for $90. Tried it in a 10km run and I loved it. The first time I used it in a speed session, it was a disaster. However, during the 10km run, after changing my socks, it was fantastic!
I got a carbon X 3, I kind of like the shoe but hate this upper. If you want to get one either get de x 2 which seems a bit better or wait till they release the x 4. The rocket x is also a really good shoe if you want a Hoka with carbon plate and it feels less stiff and clunky.
From a very slow road ultra runner's point of view, the Rocket X is a better half -full marathon and the Carbon-X is a beast for long road ultras. Notwithstanding Endorphin Pro other carbon racers are too unsteady for me.
I get the feeling we are really spoiled as consumers generally speaking. Whether it's running shoes / watches, cars, even when I researched and bought an entry-level digital piano, basically all reviewers seem to have the same take on things: You almost can't go wrong with any popular brand or product. It really just comes down to personal tastes and small preferences. Everything seems to be so dialed-in, and competition is fierce... anything that is below a very tight standard drops off the map in 1 product generation, generally a year or two. This might not be the case in 2024-2025. Corners might have to get cut once again... 90s plastic crap might make a come back.
Criticisms push innovation
Loved the Cliftons (7/8) and Rincons (2/3) from Hoka... don't feel like I need anything more from Hoka except these 2 shoe combos for dailys and daily speeds. Great review!
Same here plus I also add the Mach series. I didn't expect much mileage out the RIncon or Mach but am now on my 3rd pair of each and getting well over 400 good miles. Even more on the Cliftons. I don't believe I am a strong enough runner to benefit from carbon plate and so have a hard time justifying the cost.
@@pasadenaphil8804 only other person i've seen that got 400 miles + out of the Mach. i don't know what people are doing in these shoes but they are super durable in my experience. yeah the foam loses something, but any shoe does after 400
@@pasadenaphil8804 Yep. Haven't tried the Mach but heard a lot of good things about them. I think these 3 shoes are what most Hoka fans really enjoy.
@@pasadenaphil8804how are the rincons? I’ve tried the Clifton 8’s and those are too plush for everyday running for me. I’ve tried the carbon X3 and I like them a lot but I’m trying to look into a new pair to try out. Don’t know if I’ll go for the machs yet since I broke my tail bone I’m just starting to be able to go for walks again. I was also looking at the arahi 7 or 8’s those look somewhat similar to the rincons but a bit more expensive
Hi Michael, love you videos. Question, do you find that you need to keep the drop the same with each of your shoes, or can you switch from a, let's say 12mm drop to a 5mm drop with no issues? I run in the Brooks GTS Adrenaline w/a 12mm and I find that even the smallest change, let's say to an 8mm drop makes my achilles feel tight. Do you experience this type of thing? thanks from Ann Arbor
Great question!
The Carbon X___ just never really excited me. It's always just a little behind something else I'd choose for the day.
Bought a pair, I've found them to be good, feel stable and paces seem good in them. Like the Nikes but always feel like I'm rolling in on them.
I was looking for a new shoe since I'm starting to feel like my X2s are starting to compress a little too much to where I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable on my feet after 7-8 miles which is something I rarely experienced with Boost or early on. I don't think I'll go for another carbon shoe, or if I do, then I'll probably just keep doing another X2. Thanks for the honest review!! I've always loved the fact that you do the "after 100 miles" reviews as well, they're EXTREMELY helpful.
This is my first version of the carbon x series when I first ran in this shoe I enjoyed it after about 50 miles in this shoe I feel like it flattened out and lost a lot of its pop and springiness which is sad because this is the only hoka shoe where the fit is spot on
Carbon X3 is my first Hoka and frankly am a bit disappointed as it didnt give me the similar level of propulsion or motivation during the run when compare to my retired Vaporfly. I had the other pair of Hoka Speedgoat for trail running and it is really good. I am uncertain if I would get another pair of Hoka road shoes in the future despite it's durability.
I agree, bought the Carbon X3 as a long run trainer, having enjoyed the Carbon X SPE as a steady cruiser at marathon pace. Most aspects of this shoe fit me well, within the intended purpose: fairly stiff, good turnover, comfy upper, excellent stability, built for those Sunday mornings 😉 But ... just like you experienced it, it's a decent pair of shoes that sadly doesn't provide anything more than that. A solid work horse. Not so exciting.
Your stride is delightful to watch, wow! Any tips how you got there?
Hi Kofuzi! Many thx for this great review and for maintaining a critical angle despite all the X3 hype! I like your channel very much! I am not worthy of lecturing you on running, but may I ask - are you aware that your foot mechanics during landing/rolling is actually that of a forefoot runner? It‘s clearly visible at 02:19, 04:36, 05:52 or in the slo-mos from the back 02:50, 03:10 or 03:17 that you actually land on your distal midfoot/forefoot. Also when looking at the wear pattern of the sole at 02:41 or 04:11 it‘s quite striking that after 100 miles there is almost no wear on the heel and the heel extension. I bring this up because as a forefoot-leaning runner you might not have any benefit from this class of shoe, because during the landing phase (past the heel) you would not create any deflection of a carbon or whatever plate that could be re-gained during takeoff over the toes. Just a question that crossed my mind. Best wishes and keep on running! Mathias
These are my new go to shoe for recovery runs. I have a set of Novoblast and Pegasus 39,s and find the carbon X3 are actually more comfortable and can run a lot further just cruising along. My foot is wider and usually a 10.5 but went with size 10US. I’m not having any slippage in the heal or lace up issues at this point.
I've got flat feet and I've been looking for carbon plate shoe that still gives me that support for my flat feet. I normally run in Pegasus 39 but I've been looking for a new shoe that will give me that support. In my Pegasus 39s I half size up. Would you recommend I go for these. If so what size would you say as I'm not sure if hoka carbon x 3 are true to size
@@reloadedreapers I’m a 10.5, the half size up from 10 gives me more room for my wide foot. I tried them in store and had to go the half size down to the 10 to get a more firm fit. I would say there not true to size for me.
Which pair of Hoka shoes would you recommend for doing Hill Sprints?
Great Review! One thing that occurred to me regarding any shoe with a carbon plate is comfort. Especially for racing shoes and the super shoes, I hear people saying that they expect to sacrifice some comfort for a faster shoe. Well I have a hard time understanding this because I personally run faster in shoes that are more comfortable. If a shoe that is designed for speed causes discomfort to my foot, Im going to run slower than a non-super shoe that has more comfort. I have tried the vast majority of super shoes this year and with the exception of the NB FC Elite and the Atreyu The Artist would/could not run more than 13 miles in any other supershoe without experiencing pain. So, I guess my question/comment is, It would make sense to me that any person would run slower in a shoe that is less comfortable, so why do these SUper Shoe?marathon ready shoes focus more on snappyness and responsivness rather than comfort?
Amazing review man,as always 👏
By the way, i want to ask you if you know about New balance fresh foam higher... i saw them today at the store and try them and i was blown away 😳 im asking the expert on shoes about them 😅 🙃 cheers 🍻
Never mind reviewing the Hokas. What are those cool ass specs frames you're sporting? Please tell.
Kofuzi - great video as always. Will we be seeing a video on your Chi Marathon plan and what events you’ll be going to?!
I'll be pacing a friend this year. I may address it and my schedule a TH-cam short or something similar. in the meantime, don't forget to check out the Kofuzi Run Club strava group for info on the pizza shakeout
The one thing I can't understand: The elf tab that's supposed to help you put the shoe on. Alright, it may help, but how much time do you waste without it? Two seconds or three? And the ridiculous elf tab collects debris from the unpaved road throughout the run. I am really worried that most running shoes are succumbing to the market for lifestyle shoe absurdities.
Mr. Kofuzi , thank you for your efforts, Q: Shall I use it for a walking shoe ?
Kofuzi - your voice sounds lower - did you get a cold? I could be wrong but if you are under the weather, get well soon!
I wanted to love the X2 so much but the plate cracks after 50 or so miles. It is so heavy and the foam is so stiff it gives no pop at all, in fact if just slows you down I had to throw mine away, sad to see x3 don’t hold up any better
I did not like the curved heel, because sand gets there.
At the first training session, I scraped my heel to the point of blood. The midsole is stiff, there is not enough cushioning, and this top is sewn like a sock - not my story, not enough stiffness.
same situation here... I always end up putting my Mach 5's on
My first Hokka’s were Rincon2; love ‘em. Now also have carbon X and love those 2. I find myself grabbing them for a run more than I do my Asics magic speed (which I also love).
Thanks for the honest review though.
I bet they feel like god's gift to feet.. for the first 100-150 miles and then dead.
BTW, Foot Doctor Zach running shoes of the year is the Lotto Volata Hyperpulse 100. He might be my favorite TH-camr.
Having no rubber on the outsole is never for a long keeping coz it will surely depreciate faster esp when u are running on stony surface
I loved my clifton 7s but the 8s just didn't feel the same. Still love hoka and want to try them all some day!!
Hoka daily trainers are so good, it makes their race shoes seem that much less impressive in comparison.
Love the Clifton OG, 3 to 7, skipped the 8 and got Nike ZoomX invinsible & NB More 3 instead ! I agree, it seems everyone catched up with Hoka, they are not softer than everyone now, they need to innovate !
Same here, they somehow changed the fit of the shoe. Noticed it right away when trying the shoe, especially around my toes. I loved the Clifton 6 and 7 but eventually replaced it with the Asics Nimbus lite 3. While I do like the Asics I will come back to Hoka for my daily easy runs. Already got the Mach 5 which I love but I use that shoe more for my long and tempo runs.
I have the Carbon X 2 and it works well for me, but I am looking for a faster shoe that fits like my other Hokas. I am not racing marathons, I don't want a shoe that I will need to get used to and will only last a very short time, so I'm not your typical Carbon shoe buyer. It's surprising that Hoka aren't really going for an out and out racing Carbon shoe with lots of Pop somewhere in the line up. I think there is a place for a shoe like this, but surely a Super Shoe Race Day shoe is needed from Hoka.
I believe this is one of those reviews that you have to read between the lines.
What about speed work on the curves on a track? Will the knit upper keep the foot in place or is it likely that I'd be sliding over the outer edge with my right foot? That was the biggest issue I always had with Altra Excalantes with the more flexible upper.
You're funny, you can't run a formula one in the streets, similarly you will need spike shoes for track running not carbon shoes 😅
Yeah carbon X3 was my least favorite hoka, was willing to give it a try but you live and you learn I guess!
Hokas hurt my arches. I have had to take back 2 pairs to my LRS. Years ago, I had a pair of Challengers that were pretty alright on the trail, but as of recent Hoka hasn't had anything that felt lovely of my feet. My guilty pleasure is Brooks TBH. It is embarrassing to say LOL
Same here. Wanted to like the Clifton, but I could barely keep on running after just a few miles. My arches felt like they were being cut into at some point. I do have somewhat lower arches, but never had this problem with any other brand.
If I’m just starting to run do you recommend any training apps like Nike plus?
Wrong - disagree with this guy. I love the x3 its great for me. Well done Hoka. Shoe reviews are waste of time as not every shoe works same way for all people
dude. your comment is internally inconsistent. if what you state is true: "not every shoe works same way for all people," then by your rules, I cannot be wrong. I am merely experiencing the exact phenomenon you cite.
reviewers are useful when you find a reviewer who tends to like the same kinds of shoes you do.
Hi Kofuzi
Been following your videos for a while now, and not sure if this is the right place to ask. I am having trouble in finding the shoe. Not just Hoka, but Saucony as well. Is there any supply chain problems going on in shoe world ?
Hi x1y2z3. My initial thought is that I might need information like what model you are looking for, which retailers you are searching, and what region of the world you are in. But on second thought, even with any of that information, I'm not sure I can answer that question as I don't get supply chain information from brands.
My speculation is that it might come down to the time of year that you are trying to find a certain shoe. We're kind of in between seasons now.
@@kofuzi Thanks for the response. I usually wait a while and get the model based on your reviews. For example, if Mach5 vs Mach4 isnt that much different, I would go for Mach4. Something like that. In that context, I dont find anything from last years model (Carbon X, Mach4, Saucony Endorphin speed 2 etc).
Shoes like this I think (non-runner but hve owned "running shoes") is and should only be used "in a rotation" becasue there is no stability because it's a "cush" shoe. LIke the Nike MIler 3 (which I have...wore it as my only running shoe for months...now my heels roll a lot when I walk...didn't appear for maybe over 7 months...)....Cushy shoes aren't everyday shoes...i guess that's why they call them recovery day shoes...
What shoe would you prepare for the preparation for a marathon and actually running it? I plan to use one type of shoe daily. Thank you for the honest review Kofuzi
I wouldn’t choose just one shoe for both training and racing. The shoes might need replacing before I got to the starting line.
But a shoe that is good for both everyday miles and a marathon distance race could be:
Novablast 3
Rebel 3
Superblast
SC Trainer
Deviate Nitro 2
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Can we get an Apple Watch ultra review
The lack of firm lockdown is a downer.
Even with the right size, the “tongue” wrinkles or folds upon itself when laced up.
If I wanted to avoid that, I’ll have to go a few sizes down, then it already too small for my feet.
Thanks...skipped ... LOL, love the reveiw as usual !
I wore my tecton x's for two ultras and they were the worst things Ive ever put on my feet. I was really disappointed because I was a HUGE hoka fan, blowing through three pairs of ATR 6's and loving the way they felt on distances longer than 20km. The carbon plates and their "responsiveness" is another way of saying that you will be pounding your feet in a hard way. Never again will I buy Hokas, I am an altra runner now. No regrets.
I don’t love the Tecton X as most others seem to. But if you enjoy the ATR, (1) updated version looks really nice although I’m not sure when that is coming, and (2) Mafate Speed 4 is maybe my favorite Hoka this year
It's been difficult for me to get into any of Hokas lineup. Shoes just off for some reason compared to other brands.
I think part of my disappointment with the X3 is that I enjoy so many other Hoka shoes so much. it's like, why can't they get this right when they can do so much else so well?
Does the outsole normally wears down fast? I only registered 27km on my pair and I already can see wear issues. I'm only using it on oval tracks.
I have shown you exactly what 100 miles of running on pavement does to mine.
I really like this shoe I have to say.
I am looking for a 100km runningshoe for next summer and i am wondering if the Carbon x3 would be an option for it? ( probably the other carbon racers arent really suitable for such a long distance )
Yeah Mate, I've got the Carbon x3 and definitely think it would be good for a 100k, the rocker's quite good so it will just keep pushing you forward when you are tired, but the shoe is a bit stiff though
Got HOKA CARBON X3 black for 223AED (60 USD), after Nov11 discount and 150aed gift voucher. bought for PLANTAR FASCIITIS pain try during duty wear
Tried this after Clifton 8, clifton feels better. I feel like I'm faster with clifton and more comfort.
Glad to hear you’ve found something you enjoy
My podiatrist recommended this shoe because I have metatarsalgia and need a shoe with a rocker and firmness in the middle.
What do you think about just walking? How is the fit? Let me know
Thank you
I personally find rockered shoes to be a bit awkward for walking
I use these shoes as a daily training😭
Did anyone else get a hotspot in the heal?
I don't know the comfort level, but the shoe is not very aesthetically pleasing and pricey.
Dear people it is worh mentioninig that if you hapen to have any problems with you're Hoka shoes at least in the UK customer service is a joke. You can check Trust pilot reviews to understand how bad it is. So for me at least never again will I buy their shoes.
Could you use these as a daily trainer?
No
@@kofuzi is the carbon plate the reason why?
@@kofuzi would the hoka mach x be the better choice as a daily trainer?
I want to purchase Hoka carbon x3 used shoes size EUR 45 can you help me.
I cannot
Other option like??? 🤔
I don't understand this question
@@kofuzi you said you find yourself choosing other shoes instead of the carbon 3. So what are those options what are those shoes your finding yourself choosing?
I tried Hoka and they were totally crap never again Adidas all the way
Hoka is about design and marketing, not technology... For the price paid, other brands offer much better shoes.