The Remington 597 by Nutnfancy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2012
- Another epic .22 rifle for recreation, training, and pest control. The Remington 597 in most respects holds its own against the also-excellent Ruger 10/22 and Marlin 795/70 PSS Papoose rifles. In some ways it's better: its twin tool steel bolt rails, Teflon coated trigger components, and last shot hold open are upscale features at this price point. Its bolt configuration is smooth and sure and if you're lucky enough to find 100% reliable mags for it, provides amazing levels of reliability. The magazines remain the 597's nemesis. In TNP many Remington FACTORY 3rd Generation magazines caused us numerous problems: unable to load to 10 rd capacity, some not reliable (rounds tilting, jamming in box), and in one instance the floor plate falling off during shooting. The spring in it is also too weak (discussed). This aluminum 10 round box magazine does not compare well in quality against the Marlin and Ruger 10 round factory mags. Unfortunately things don't get any better with current aftermarket options like the so-called Remington factory 30 rd or Pro-Mag .22 rd polycarbonate magazines. With both it was a hit and miss proposition; even after being lubed with Remington Dry Lube inside, several would fail to feed, hang up, and jam especially in cold weather conditions. Some however, like the black Rem 30 rdrs, ran 100% in all conditions. The magazines for the 597 are just a box of chocolates; you just don't know what you gonna' get. Good ones are out there but you might have to experiment and test EACH one. TNP makes an official call in this review video for a high quality aftermarket 30 round Rem 597 magazine on par with the Ruger BX-25 and Tactical Innovations 30 rd Ruger 10/22 mags. These will sell well is my prediction and I am shocked the market has NOT answered that need yet. Another minor ergonomic miss in the design is the sliding magazine catch; not preferred by ANY of the TNP crew compared to the competition. The rest is all good: outstanding accuracy, easy attachment of optics, great sights, decent trigger, a perfect synthetic stock with ideal LOP, easy takedown and maintenance, high quality steel barrel with perfect profiling, and high durability. This is a lifetime rifle, like the Ruger and Marlin, and brings smiles and memories to your shooting outings...all without going broke. The Rem 597 checks in around the $160 price point (always changing) for most version which is a good deal for this American made .22 Classic. My favorite version is the 597 AAC-SD for its shorter, threaded barrel which accepts suppressors and flash hiders (for cooler looks). Ran with the awesome little Silencerco 22 Sparrow suppressor, this little AAC was wicked quiet and fun. Other versions will be issued as time goes on, each with stock, barrel, and coloration variations (some shown). Each will make a lifelong addition of fun and training to your inventory. //////////////////////////////////////Nutnfancy Likability Scale: 8.5 out of 10, if with ultra-quality 30 rd magazines and more accessories equal to the 10/22: 10 out of 10 ////////////////////Music: JS
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One of the smartest things Nutnfancy says in this video is "No matter whether it's a pellet gun or .22, trigger time makes you a better shot." Too many idiots I've met will try to argue that a pellet rifle is "completely different from a real gun" and, thus, useless for training with. This is so entirely untrue that it's painful...particularly since trigger control, breathing, and the proper hold on a pellet rifle are FAR more crucial since the pellet will still be in the barrel during the recoil cycle. The "artillery hold" many prefer to use on spring type pellet rifles is slightly different from your average hold, but this doesn't make them useless for training. They're also far less dangerous/less likely to cause a ricochet than a .22 in very tight quarters for those of you who don't have a few acres to screw around on.
I agree with everything you said. I shoot pellet guns regularly and all the shooting techniques are exactly the same as firearm shooting with the exception of the artillery hold, it works ok on a rimfire but you will feel the kick on a centerfire rifle alot more. Also breath control and trigger squeeze are critical on a spring piston rifle for accuracy. Quality pellet guns coupled with good shooting technique and high quality pellets are wickedly accurate and have definitely improved my firearm shooting ability.
Got my 597 in Jan 2013, now we're at the end of the year, over 5000 rounds later, a trigger job done, guide rods polished, firing pin polished, headspace adjusted and it's a tack driver. 3-9x40 scope, bipod and sling. Using Remington 30 round magazines, zero issues with this rifle. With bipod on it, it's heavier than my 10/22 but just as accurate and dependable.
Ive had this rifle for over 10 years and its great. Ive never had a problem with it and Ive dropped it on rock and shit, load stupid mags in it, shot hilarious amounts of ammo out of it..and it still works fine. Its a sweet little gun
have had one for 6 months, a few ftf when it was fresh out of the box, broke it all down and sanded under the barrel(free floated), mounter a bipod. love it, so happy and thanks for all of your vids, i also own and love ruger's sr9c.
Glad I found this review. I've had my 597 for approx 14 years,great gun and I totally agree on the CCI mini mags. Great accuracy with the CCI
I HAVE A 597, THE EXTRACTOR FELL OFF AND I HAVE NO WHERE TO BUY HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES SO I CUSTOM MADE MY OWN EXTRACTOR AND IT WORK SO GOOD.
i have always liked the iron sights Remington uses on their rifles they are super accurate and very adjustable
Great review. Love the escapism of watching all your back country footage.
I don't want one...but I ... can't ... stop ... watching!
Excellent reviews!
...and as always, keep up the great work. You know we love you!
I have a 597, bought it 6 years ago. I haven't cleaned it since the day i bought it and to be honest, it works flawlessly. good stuff
FINALLY!!!! Suppressors in the Nutnfancy project! Excited to see more!
Dudes!...this is my first view of your stuff!!! simply, WAY COOL! I am giving myself a 597 for xmas and you just answered ALL questions I had. THANX!
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I have the heavy barrel version and it is very accurate likes copper plated rounds rarely jams mags are awesome I am very happy with it
i like the stock on these guns they give the feel of a deer rifle im 6ft 3 and the rifle fits me great i think its why this rifle is one of my favorites
love your videos nutn! The only downside is that I can't stop watching them! Keep up the good work man!
hey,thanks for the review .i bought the ruger 10/22 based on yor reviews and am very happy.the funny thing was that i was looking at a 597 and that made me want to go home and get serious about doing my homework before buying.low and behold not only are there lots of folks out there to that love the ruger ,my go to guy ,nutnfancy loves it in his reviews.i really liked the sights on the 597,the gun just looked and felt good,but im sure glad i did my homework.thanks nutn.TNP!
I bought one of these in a 22 mag a month ago and have shot about 160 rounds a week through it since. Love it! Great fun!
+dominatr37 I am looking hard for a new semi auto 22 Magnum. I own 3 Marlin bolt action 22 Mags. 2 are twins, my wife hates long range and hates scopes, so hers is bone stock. My twin to hers is also open sighted so we can "compete" with each other at 50 yards. My 3rd is a old Marlin 882 ( bull barrel ) with a 4-12 X 40 scope, and 1 MOA is the norm with Winchester Supreme ammo. BUT, I am really, REALLY wanting a semi-auto Mag. What kind of accuracy are you getting in the 597 22 Magnum?
I have both and 597 and a 10/22. For some reason I keep going back to the 597.
just bought one today. cant wait to take it out tommorow.
Thanks for the review. I have been considering purchasing one of these rifle for sometime now. I think I will pick one up.
Nutn you do the most thorough and professional reviews on youtube bar none. I you said a fish farts I would look for bubbles. Nobody does it like you man so thank you sincerely thank you!
@UbiqitusKakistocracy Thanks for the nice comment and for taking the time to write it (and watch the vid)! It's a great shooter and I never plan on getting rid of it; just love it. Great price on yours...well done!
My dad has one and it is the best semi auto .22 ever. It runs with all ammo. It has a laminated stock with a stainless steel receiver and barrel and I'm not sure if they make that type any more. Overall it's a amazing rifle for everyone.
Just bought one with a beautiful wood stock and a stainless barrel. Came with a Remington 3-9x39 scope. Love this gun!
Easily the best 597 review I have ever seen.
Great review! Being a 597 owner, I couldnt agree more. I've put countless thousands of rounds through mine and i love it. I've never had any problems with my 2 factory mags, however, it has had ejection problems with bulk ammo where the casing will end up preventing the bolt from fully returning to its forward position. None the less, if I could go back to when I bought it at Dick's for somewhere around $135, I would buy it again. I also want to say thanks and keep up the great vids!
Awesome videos Nutn. You have been cranking out videos. Love it, I need to pick up a new .22
Nutn,
i know its a old video but after watching this i bought a 597 HB. Thanks great review!
I've had both the 10/22 and the 597. I still have the 597 and love it. never had a single issue with magazines or malfunctions. it is a great little rifle. Mine is the same Walmart mossy joke camp model you have in the review. I think I bought it brand new for around $140 about 7-8 years ago. The only thing I have done is add a Bushnell 3x9 rim fire scope and sling plus a couple of spare mags. It shoots great and patterns close to MOA at 100 yards. thanks for the great review. Keep up the good
Thanks for the honest review. I wanted a cheap .22LR and Dick's had this on sale with a 3-9x30 scope mounted for $189. I was torn between the 597 and the 10/22 - after watching this review I was convinced that I couldn't go wrong with the 597 and the price was right.
If I didn't already have a 10/22 I might look at getting one. Thanks for reviewing the gun.
I bought a Marlin 795 in 2012 and had to have it replaced because the dovetail mount on the receiver was crooked by about 30 degrees, got a new one 6 months later from the factory and it was crooked about 15 degrees, going to sell it and get a Remington.
Thanks for the awesome review
Hey nutnfancy, great review! I have the 597 lss which has a laminate stock and it is stainless. Fortunately, the two 3rd gen mags that I have, have performed flawlessly. My rifle is 100% free floated and it is a real shooter. Keep up the good work!
love the .22 for a number of different options
Hey Nutn, keep up the good work.
Having just purchased a 597 a few weeks ago I was interested to see your review.
I bought 4 extra used factory mags from a used mag bin and they plus the one that came with it all hold ten and all work fine. I guess I got lucky in that respect.
I'm just over 1000 rounds in with zero malfunctions.
I love the bolt lock back on empty.
Stock shape is great.
Steel sights are great.
I don't mind the mag release.
Below: thanks for the tip on cleaning from the breech
I am a valuable source, and a treasure chest of information.
Well I just got home from the range trying out my brand new 597. It performed flawlessly EXCEPT when I loaded Remington Golden Bullet and Yellow Jacket. They would fire most of the time but sometimes they wouldn't fire. When I loaded CCI Mini-Mags or American Eagle 38 grain it was perfect. No magazine misfeeds or anything. Put about 250 rounds through it today and only about 7 fail to fires but only with the crap ammo. Good rifle, accuracy is good too.
Reverse mag springs to load 10 rounds, pull out buffer to clean from breech. Been preaching this for years
I love your gun reviews.....especially when you can get them at walmart. I sell guns at the walmart in my town and have people ask all the time "what do you think about it". If i have personal experience i will let them know about it but after that i usually recommend that they do some internet research. When i can send them straight to a video like this makes me feel good. The videos almost always support my personal experience. Also, turning people on to TNP is a great thing in my mind.
Yep I have a .17 HMR Remington 597 and I really love it! As far as I know it has had no failures ever in any way except for the magazine has a weak spring that really only allows you to use 5+1 instead of the advertised 8+1. The rifle itself has functioned %100! And the .17HMR bullets have never caused problems the only thing I have noticed is the cases will occasionally bulge a little bit but since you cant reload them who cares they've never broken or cracked or caused injury! I love the Gun!
Just picked up the rem 597 great gun
Excellent review. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for this reciew Nutn. I've been wanting a 10/22 for a while, and have been looking for a .22 rifle for my dad, and here you come out with this. I'm a bit more interested in the Remington after watching this.. Gonna take a look at some Marlins.
been wating for this review for bloody ever! drivin the lad crazy! mine came with a scope and no sights, just like yours in the review
Great review dude!
Thanks
Great review man. I love my 597, I have the gray stock one. I love the feel of it. Remington should make larger caliber rifles with that stock form. I can shoot it more accurately then my friends 10/22 could be just me, but he shoots my 597 better than his 10/22 also.
Very cool to know yet another great .22 option. With how affordable and with their quality I might one up. Right now my focus is to get a .22 AR so I might check back on your M&P15-22 and Sig522 reviews. Thanks for sharing!
My little bro just bought a VTR at the cabelas gun library. It had a Nikon pro staff scope on in and he got the whole package for $230. He got a steal...
JAM-O-MATIC !!!
I have been looking in to the 597 but i keep buying the 795 great vid nutn
I have a 597 and I love it...except for the extended magazines. I bought one clear polymer, used it for less than 500 rounds and it cracked. It never fit properly, and the housing cracked. I contacted Remington, sent it back, and they sent me a brand new one. Love the customer service and It's a very accurate rifle.
I have a Savage MK2 TR that i absolutely love that i can keep a 2in group with from 200 yards with Remington 550, but it is a little hard to tote around, and i would like to get one that is a bit lighter and easier to walk around with. I really appreciate your reviews on different 22's because they are very through, unbiased, and full of great information. Keep up the good work.
Would love to see a table top on the 597 WMR, not big different but a better kick in that one. Keep up the good work, your vids are No1 to watch for help and good info on products
Nice shoot nutnfancy, that girl is getting better!
My wife and I really enjoy shooting the Remington 597.
I've had my 597 for 12 years. It's got the gen1 plastic 10 shot mag, never had a problem getting 10 rds in it. My only complaint with that mag is it has to be seated firmly in place before the catch clicks. I have 3 clear Remington mags tough to get to 30 so I usually load to about 25. No problems with any of them, ordered 1 first to try then got 2 more. I find that as long as I use a min 37 grain bullet feed issues are not a problem. I generally stick to 40 grain rds. Great & Fun rifle, love it
thanks for the quality review Nutn, appreciate the hard work as always! My uncle, who I've done a ton of hunting/shooting with over the yrs, has a 597 and it's reliability has been okay, not great, and a high school buddy had the same experience w/ his. I've shot both of those and found them to be less reliable than 10/22s w/ factory mags (not sure what gen). My data points, but I'm stickin with Ruger or Marlin: more reliable, better mags and more accessories. Thanks again dude keep it up!
I own this rifle. It may not have as many after market products as the 10/22 but I had a choice of several stocks made by Boyd's. Also the Archangel kit. I went with the Boyd's SS Evolution stock. Because I saw some very nice rifles with that stock. I added a Centerpoint 3x9x40AO scope with mil dots. All and all I am very pleased. I don't have problems getting 10 rounds in the rifle of FTF issues. I plan to use this rifle to teach my grandchildren how to safely use a firearm. So shoot safe.
That Weatherby is gorgeous. Gonna get me a 597. Your testing holds a lot of weight with me. I don't run my stuff as hard as you, so if it works for you it'll definitely work for me.
Great video. I've looked at it and thought it was a competitive rifle to the 10/22, Marlin 795, and some Savage models. I'm real happy with my 795 though what a rifle!
i have a remington 552 speedmaster and i love it, it is the first gun ive ever owned given to me by my uncle and i wouldnt part with it for the world its a super accurate 22 and i love mine ive never played with any other remington 22s but i would like to get one and run it through its paces
@Nutnfancy, So happy to see Allie out there! I don't know if it was an old clip but in the intro I saw her :)
Went out and bought some new CCI ammo and fired the whole box rapid fire and no problems at all. Thanks
Great review heading out to get one for the kids we have 10/22 it will be fun to see the kids do there own review
I have one of these and I love it!
Not sure if anyone else would care to see it, but would LOVE a review on the Henry lever action .22 paired with marble arms catch .22 re-loader for the tubular magazine. I love your .22 reviews and have always bought the reviewed gun within a week of watching (wife and kids are always good excuses for a new gun!) but i couldn't wait on the Henry and picked one up......I LOVE IT...i think a review from you would turn a lot of other people on to yet another home run, old style, fun shooting .22!
Love my 597!!!
I love 10/22s and 795s but my 597 has actually been even more reliable which surprises many (Not that I have a problem w the other two). I would love to do a trigger job on it but other than that... a fantastic gun! I've had hits and misses when buying magazines. The ones I run, run great... but I agree about the 10/22 having the superior magazines -especially the extended ones.
They do make a starter [kids] stock now as well... at least they were.
Great review...!!!
@stino249 I've talked about it in several Philosophy vids (like Children of the Gun); maybe check my Playlist on it...see the vid Navigating the Nutnfancy Project. Might do a dedicated vid on it later.
All i can say is... I Love the 597! Great gun for the money!
thanks man i also like the ruger bc of the customizing
rockin the PSU hat ....sweet
the black OEM Remington 25 round mags work great. no issues at all
I sighted one of these, I decided at 50 it was sighted when I could put a group in a staple. The mags used were all fresh out of the box, and while the 10 needed breaking in, by the end of the day they were taking all 10 rounds. The 30 rounders, the black is reliable, but I've found doesn't engage the hold-open, and the clear functioned fine in the cold, only misfed because I overloaded it, and they both took all 30 immediately, no disassembly on the mags at all. Overall great gun, seen 'em $150
I was also "brought up" on the 10/22. It just has such a great track record with my personal experience and Millions of others, and if/when I ever have kids it will be what they are "brought up" on as well. Never the less, I suppose this gun could get the job done also..
Great Review!
I've used the Remington black 30 rounders and it works 100% it had a broken spring but when it got replaced it works better than the 10 shot magazines.
Love the 22s
Had to buy a rifle safe this weekend for all the crap you "force" me to buy. Love it. Another great .22 and review. You need another camping trip with Crocket20 and take this rifle with you.
I have a Remington 597 haven't shot it yet but i have the scope not the iron sights its still a really good gun i love it!!!
Love my 597!
Sweet review!! I dont think ill be trading my Ruger 10/22!!
Got a 597 Christmas 2011. Heavy barrel, 3-9x Remington scope, bipod. December 2012 I shot a .5in group at 50yds (1in with the one flier, there's always that one)
I used to have a 597 VTR and it was the biggest lemon I ever owned . I had already bought the gun when I started finding all the bad reviews on this particular VTR version , not only did it fail a couple of times a mag but it had a ridiculous amount of screws to remove the tactical façade and it made cleaning a chore . Trade it back and got a 10/22 .
The VTR is the one that looks like an AR-15, right? There was a problem with the 5R barrels originally when they started making them, and there's also been a few glitches here and there...but, overall, the tactical version is made more for looks than it is for dependability or excellence. It was a model heavily aimed toward the Call of Duty "Tacticool" crowd because of how popular the AR-15 has become along with all the tactical stock/chassis units made for anything from the 10/22 to the Mosin Nagant 91/30.
Also; thee magazines can take a little time to break in, as can the action very rarely. Remingtons tend to be pretty tight, accurate guns...the Remington 750 is notorious for either being absolutely loved or vehemently hated, depending on how many rounds were put through it before they considered it a lemon and/or how many simply refused to send the rifle back to Remington to be inspected. Remington's customer service is pretty excellent anymore...I can attest to this personally.
I have a model 597 i bought it for my son whos now ten i got him the carbine version with floating barrel cus he wanted a rifle like my ar and with the collapsible stock it fits him perfectly when we go tot he range we end up shooting his more cus its a just all out fun rifle to play with and its so much cheaper then shooting 223's
Good review thanks
i love my 597, fun to shoot and reliable. did have some problems with federal ammo. had about one jam per mag.
thanks for the review Nutnfany
I appreciate it as always
just a nice .22 experience for a good acuracy shoot :D
I got a 597 at the end of 2011, and initially I also had issues fitting 10 rounds, eventually it loosened up and now takes 10 rounds fairly easily
Nice review. I have the 597. In a nutshell. Very accurate. Love the look and size. Magazines suck. The trigger on mine really sucks too. Might just be my rifle. Still looking for a good magazine. Thanks for the review.
@glennwih Cool! I think that High Standard .22 suppressed pistol was also intended for some behind enemy lines assassinations too.
i got a 597 vtr and i love it...tactical 22 all the way
I have had a 597 for over 10 years now. In fact I still have the Gen 1 mags. I've run 1000's of rds through mine and have had maybe a dozen fail to feed. I do know that I have to run Rem Thunderbolt 22lr rds for the best accurancy. My rifle simply works the best with that match-up. I have a couple of high-cap I got from Midway for about $15 each and they get the job done.
The ATF just cashed my $200 check. I am expecting my suppressor around July-August 2012. Just bought a Sig 522 for use with the suppressor as well (Thanks for making me spend money Nutnfancy!) haha
I bought a 597 for my daughter. It's always had problems with mags even with
the newer replacements.
Also, the rifle is no fun to take down for cleaning.
I have owned my Remington 597 for close to 6 years now and I love it, the only thing that that bugs me about it is that there aren't as many accessories for it like the Ruger 10/22. I scoped mine about 5 months ago and was shooting fairly nice groups but I would like to really slow down and try to shoot some good groups. Thanks for the review and keep doing what your doing.
My 597 I modified to be free floating. A piece of paper fits well in between the stock and the barrel. I have a 3-9x40 Bushnell scope on it.
Great lookin' little .22 bro and awesome review! I'll be sticking with the 10/22 for now though I think. The next .22LR rifle I acquire will be a bolt action so that it makes the shooter (my son really) pay more attention to accuracy than the coolness of just pulling the trigger....lol!!
I ran 120 Winchester M-22s through my Archangel-kitted 597. Used 4 black Remington 30-rounders. Only problems could be attributed to the ammo: one dud and one stovepipe.