Star Wars: Darth Plagueis (Audiobook) - Darth Plagueis vs Darth Venamis

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  • @adamb.7721
    @adamb.7721 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    In my humble opinion, "Darth Plagueis" is the best Star Wars novel ever written.

    • @grungesw1222
      @grungesw1222  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That is an opinion you and I share

    • @fabiansaunders
      @fabiansaunders ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes narrowly beats the Darth Bane trilogy

    • @grungesw1222
      @grungesw1222  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@fabiansaunders Also another one of my favorites.

    • @kitsuned.m.4550
      @kitsuned.m.4550 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fabiansaunders well now I gotta check out this paleguies novel more

    • @griefergames4590
      @griefergames4590 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive listened to it 10 times already

  • @randomdudewholikesmusic1640
    @randomdudewholikesmusic1640 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Venamis was an interesting challenge. He seemed weaker and less experienced than Plagueis who most likely had decades of experience on him, but the sheer excitement, ease and style with his dueling styles really put Plagueis on edge and made him fall back on the force to get the victory.
    What if Venamis trained Sidious, assuming it would still go a similar path? Tenebrous put his eagerness and love for dueling into Venamis. In the canon, Plagueis and Sidious put power of the force and its abilities before dueling. Would Sidious be a more warrior type Sith, and be even more dangerous with his sabers? His "weakest" form was dueling yet he toyed with Maul and Savage, and was almost 50/50 with Windu. Would a more duel oriented Sidious have killed Windu even before Anakin would intervene?
    Swapping Plagueis with Venamis would make such an interesting turn.

    • @Stussmeister
      @Stussmeister ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A valid point. Sidious, despite being a master of all seven lightsaber forms, felt that his powers had surpassed the need for such weapons, and only used them as a way to mock the Jedi. Moreover, while only the best of opponents could stand against him in a duel, his preference for using the Force in battle is rather evident. I believe, however, that the strongest tool in Sidious' arsenal was his manipulation.
      It has long been argued that he threw the fight with Mace Windu so as to complete the final step necessary to turn Anakin to the Dark Side, something he had wanted to do for over a decade. Had Sidious not put himself in "danger", Anakin wouldn't likely have acted so quickly out of fear of losing the chance to save his wife.

  • @chase1146
    @chase1146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    After this confrontation plagueis put venamis into stasis to experiment on him, after taking sidious as an apprentice the pair killed and resurrected venamis several times until his mind was a less than that of a vegetable at which point they let him die for the final time

  • @realJoeMavro
    @realJoeMavro ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The narrator is excellent, really sounds like a Sith Lord. Personally, whenever I read Plagueis' lines in the novel, I hear James Hong's voice in my head.

  • @AncientOutlaw
    @AncientOutlaw ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This book and audio book are true masterpieces of Star Wars story telling... Absolutely needs to be made cannon and brought to the big screen.

    • @_MaZTeR_
      @_MaZTeR_ ปีที่แล้ว

      There are some bits that no longer make sense in canon in this book (bits that come to mind is how Sidious obtained Maul + the town on Dathomir where he got him shouldn't exist and how Dooku became a count only after Qui-Qon's death, but he became the count of Serenno in the Jedi Lost book years before Phantom Menace), but a vast majority might as well be made canon and wouldn't contradict anything.

  • @Vasher-The-Destroyer
    @Vasher-The-Destroyer ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This is so well written

  • @TheAncientSith
    @TheAncientSith ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve listened to this book up to 40 times on Audible. Even before getting the book I’ve heard many good things about it and after listening to it, it’s so underrated. I’ve listened to several Star Wars books and Darth Plagueis takes the cake for me as best SW Novel ever written.

    • @grungesw1222
      @grungesw1222  ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts man, the audiobook never gets old or repetitive for me!

  • @markfourtwenty9897
    @markfourtwenty9897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I missed this Audiobook...should have downloaded it before youtube delete it...

    • @splashnskillz37
      @splashnskillz37 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Google it and you will find, i did easuly found and was hearing it

    • @markfourtwenty9897
      @markfourtwenty9897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@splashnskillz37 just find it..thanks a lot....I googled it years before but failed to find it, now I find it within seconds.. Star Audio Book. Kom

    • @mikaelp7840
      @mikaelp7840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its on Audible

    • @neptun2810
      @neptun2810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can find it on Audible, along with like every other Star Wars Audiobook ever recorded.

    • @Andrew-ef9sb
      @Andrew-ef9sb ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@markfourtwenty9897 Audible my man, sith bedtime stories are the best

  • @RoboBoomStick
    @RoboBoomStick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    wow i love it, really transported me there

  • @paulodenobrega1500
    @paulodenobrega1500 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This book is so much better than any of the crap written under Kathleen Kennedy, what a joke Lucasfilm is, James Luceno you are a what Star wars needed not the woke crap we got under Kathleen's tyranny. #FireKathleenKennedy

    • @wesrm1
      @wesrm1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I hope the author Luceno is doing well. I thank him for the great books he wrote and consider them the best Star Wars content.

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The author did a great job at subtly showing why Venamis was not suited to be an apprentice, he wasn't perceptive and manipulative as he should be. A logical response to his invasion would be to send the sun guard, the only reason Plagueis made a "tactical mistake" was because the Force was aiding him in keeping the Sith a secret.
    Venamis's perception in the Force was lax, not sensing a major shift like his master's death. He relied purely on martial prowess, with no tricks in reserve or escape plans. He was told he presumed much, but still thought he was ensured apprenticeship and did not pivot to saving his life by demonstrating value to Plagueis. In short, he was a blood knight. I doubt one of the greatest engineers in galactic history would choose someone so clumsy to inherit his mantle, Darth Tenebrous probably taught him to force Plagueis to reveal his hand, allowing him to prepare for the final duel the Rule of Two demanded. When Plagueis killed Tenebrous by cunning, Venamis was left as a purposeless loose end.

  • @MuhammadAli-xw4yc
    @MuhammadAli-xw4yc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GrungeSW you are a giga super sayian Chad, How dare you deliver an class AAA video, You additions contemplated this masterfully voice actors work. My God i'm astonished. I almost teared up when this video unfortunately ended. May Allah guide you to the straight way of his will.

  • @joshpwnsnoobs
    @joshpwnsnoobs ปีที่แล้ว +5

    such a great novel. my favorite sith no doubt plageueis

  • @UnoDoseMedia
    @UnoDoseMedia ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree it was the best starwars book I had read the only other ones I enjoyed as much was the Darth Bane books 1-3.

  • @Żagñùţ01
    @Żagñùţ01 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Read this in prison! Very very inspiring book. Notice a recurring behavior in Plageius- he did EVERYTHING in *secret*

  • @ykwtfgo
    @ykwtfgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can’t wait until Disney retcons everything in the acolyte 😢

    • @chase1146
      @chase1146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In fairness, this does already fall under legends so it’s not exactly canonically sound.
      Until it is directly contradicted though it’s good enough

    • @ykwtfgo
      @ykwtfgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@chase1146 even with that being the case , some suspect Disney will go as far as to even disregard Lucas’s work to the point where Plagueis won’t be muun, and the show takes place 100 years before TPM. Plaguies was 115 years old when he died during TPM, meaning Plagueis would only be 15 during the show… so Ofcourse the age and time of death wasn’t a canonical thing but goes to show Disney will go out their was to change as much as they can

    • @ykwtfgo
      @ykwtfgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chase1146 apparently in the show there will be a bunch of sith acolytes apparently in a “ tournament” to fight to become the apprentice of the reigning Sith Lord … lol. Meaning the sith lord in the show (probably won’t be tenebrous) apparently doesn’t just get one force sensitive child and train him from birth but he’s going to jeopardize the grand plan by allowing a bunch of acolytes to exist at the same time . Wouldn’t be surprised if they get rid of the rule of two in the show as well

    • @chase1146
      @chase1146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ykwtfgo interesting that they want it to be a tournament even though 100 years before phantom menace is still well with in banes line of sith.
      more so that they kept bane and the russan reformations in canon as being a thousand years ago.

    • @BlyUehara37
      @BlyUehara37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Disney is Not Canon Rey dont defeated Palpatine Luke did

  • @mugo3457
    @mugo3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awsome

  • @renesalinas8144
    @renesalinas8144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks.

  • @darwinramirez3680
    @darwinramirez3680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Novel! New Cover? So is it Canon now? I don’t see the “Legends” label…

    • @essbe7158
      @essbe7158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not Canon, but it should be.

    • @bigbird2240
      @bigbird2240 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s canon , Disney is not canon

    • @wesrm1
      @wesrm1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Disney is reprinting certain “Legends” books in a trade paperback series called “Essential Legends” with new covers.

  • @wesrm1
    @wesrm1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Star Wars books coming out now are so pitiful compared to this.

  • @Neilhammond64
    @Neilhammond64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Plagueis stops the story to duel.a middle schooler's OC.

    • @grungesw1222
      @grungesw1222  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hardly mate, isn’t that far fetched to assume the Sith are a little less then faithful to the rule of two.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah, you're thinking of Darth Penamis, the Bulbousian who pioneered the ability Force Shaft.

    • @armanzbahrani291
      @armanzbahrani291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@logicplague Lol

  • @bigbird2240
    @bigbird2240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easy to find this full audiobook on google

    • @franklynmaina8622
      @franklynmaina8622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      free?

    • @danielgaul284
      @danielgaul284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s also available on CD

    • @wesrm1
      @wesrm1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The author Luceno and the team who made the audiobook deserve to be paid for their work. Buy it instead.

    • @bigbird2240
      @bigbird2240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wesrm1 haha 😂 cope

    • @bigbird2240
      @bigbird2240 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@franklynmaina8622 yes

  • @christiansmith-of7dt
    @christiansmith-of7dt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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