How to adjust trucks (and how NOT to)
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- I often see people set their longboard trucks too tight. This causes the bushings to deform and lose performance prematurely. In this video I show you how to properly adjust reverse kingpin trucks.
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📖 TABLE OF CONTENTS
00:00 In this video
00:32 How to adjust trucks
02:48 How tight is too tight
04:14 Don't do this
04:55 Shorter kingpins
06:31 Halfs and quarters
07:02 Do it again
07:21 Rule of thumb - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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1 thread on the kingpin = 1 full turn of the kingpin nut. 3 threads = 3 full turns, etc. I thought this was obvious but based on a couple comments, seems not. Counting turns is a better way of tuning than counting threads because try measuring half a thread, or even a quarter thread…
As a downhill longboarder who weighs 140 pounds, I don't have a problem with tightening my trucks too much. I agree with you, though man. Honestly, if you are tightening your trucks more than two rotations, just get bushings with a harder durometer.
Crazy I’m watching your content from 2 years ago but man these videos have been so informative! I’m new to E skating and all of your videos have given me the knowledge and confidence to ride and maintain a board like a pro. I really appreciate you for your amazing content! Thank you!
Such a good, informative video! As someone who doesn’t know much about longboards but needed to loosen my trucks, I really appreciated this! 😊
Starting point and consistency. That's how how do mine. But I did learn when is to tight. Mine are just right. Best video on how to adjust trucks by far. On board with this method.
good video, I like the explenation with the consistent starting point.
As someone new to the electric board scene, i really needed this guide. I do really appreciate and realized i have tighten it incorrectly.
You should keep them loose, but that’s my opinion, you do you
Such solid advice! Really well made video 👍
Thank you so much for explaining this! I just got a new board and have loosened it I think a bit too much
Thanks for the vid, digging the Yang beanie!
Nice and informative video. Good for the new guys
I got the backfire zealot with your discount code! great channel thanks
Thanks for your videos, Daniel. I just purchased a WowGo 3X (using your discount code) and before I rode it for the first time I followed your videos on how to adjust the belts, adjust the trucks, and replace the wheels (I just added bearings to the rear wheels because it shipped with only one bearing in each of the rear wheels). The board rides great and I love it. I appreciate your help. Keep up the great work!
I just purchased a wowgo 3x. What’s this bearing issue you are talking about?
@@keithy4129 The rear wheels are driven by pulleys. There is a bearing in the pulley and only one bearing in each rear wheel. I think they really need two bearings with a spacer between the bearings and speed rings between the inside bearing and the pulley. This provides support to the wheel bearings. I've read where the bearings on the rear wheels of the Wowgo 3x have failed because they don't have this support. But that's just my opinion. I am not an expert on this. I'm just a novice.
Today is the 5th time I`m watching this video (first one was like 3 years ago) because it's the best adjusting trucks tutorial on the whole internet (at least youtube)
THANK YOU
Great guide on tightening trucks.
Thanks for the complete manual!
Super informative, really good content
Great, very informative video, thanks!
Thanks, used this to help someone out.
Nice video, well explained 👍
Woah dude, nicely explained.
Funny - Truck adjustments helped when I bought a cruiser motorcycle!
Very helpful! Thank you!
Great video! Appreciate the brief reasons supporting what you do; all makes sense. Suggestion: Can you do a video explaining the different types of bushings?
I’d like to one day
super brief: fatter bushings (like barrels) are stiffer and more progressive (more push back the more you turn), thinner bushings (like cones) are softer and less progressive. As for duro: bigger numbers (and later letters in the alphabet) means stiffer, and thus harder to lean the board/more stable ride.
Thank you! Very helpful
Good edit💖
Was running Paris V3's on my main deck the last ~4 years with stock bushings and had 10+ threads showing lol. Gonna get me some nice super hard bushings.
that's super tight! You should probably get some stiff barrels. Most brands suggest a duro based on weight, and replace the cone in the paris' with a barrel.
nice layout
AWESOME !! thank you!
long shot i know but what or where could i find the rack you were using in this video for storing your boards as im searching for a similar solution but am having no luck what so ever. it looks like the perfect solution for storing all of my boards (eskate, regular and snow)
Hey Daniel, so I just got the Wowgo Knight (hub) and your review on it was very helpful. Thank you.
I took it for my first ever eskate ride yesterday and it was great! The turning radius isn't great so I followed the steps shown in this video and instantly (before I even took it for a ride) the board (trucks and/or bushings) are creaking...not squeaking but creaking. I tried re-tightening them how it was before but the sound is still there. I took out the bushings and trucks and cleaned any dirt I saw and made sure to put everything back how it was but it didn't fix anything. The noise isn't unbearable but you definitely can't ignore it.
Before putting soap on all the parts like some youtubers are saying, I just wanted to get your feedback (or anyone that can help) because the board is brand new so I don't think it has to do with any wear.
PS: this is my first ever board so I really don't have any experience lol.
The sound is normal. You can put a tiny bit of lube on the bushings and pivot cup to get rid of that. Soap shavings are fine too.
@@DanielKwan Awesome, thank you, I'll try that
The sound usually comes from the pivot cup not the bushings. Put grease on it. Or skating wax. Soap shavings work but just temporarily.
this man is very cool
Thank you so much
Helpfull!
my girlfriend wants a small board, she felt the backfire zealot was to big and heavy, any recommendations for something more portable?
You shouldn't get harder bushings if your ride is too soft. You should go from cones to barrels, or barrels to half eliminators or full eliminators. The hardness depends on the weight of the rider and doesn't change. The different bushing shapes are designed to give you different handling without going outside the "sweet spot" of the bushing rebound for a given weight.
i have never heard this info before, wish i had, is there a chart i could look up for what bushing my weight should be getting?
Type venom bushing chart
THANKS!!!!
Do you have a video on double kingpin trucks?
Hi, guys! I've just received my brand-new board, pretty happy, BUT, there is a problem. The boardside kingpin on the front truck (DKP) is bent. Is it Ok to make straight by just bending it back? Waiting for a reply from the dealer, and decide to ask you, if it's Ok
Can this method be applied to electric skateboards?
Mathmatical! Great video
I’ve watched this video a few different times. I just got a new setup and tightened my trucks your way instead of my way and now I think I’ve been tightening my trucks too much for years now. I normally tighten till it feels stable enough.
Yeah, you can tighten bushings too far if you don't care too much about their longevity. But buying stiffer bushings will always be better than cranking down your current ones in terms of predictability and feel.
NIce Video! I have a question in regards to this actually too.
My wowgo 3 I think has a short kingpin on the rear trucks compared to the Front Paris Trucks, Because of this, I feel like my trucks are kinda tight because of the amount of compression my bushings are taking since there's not enough length on the kingpin to have it safely right. What should I do in this case? Should I tighten it enough so that the nut is on the kingpin enough so that it's less likely to come off, or should I tighten it up to the point where it catches more of the kingpin, but compresses the bushes more than what's recommended?
Check if the kingpin is centered in the hole in the hanger. If not, you might need to pull up the hanger a bit to get the bushings to sit properly in the bushing seats. If that doesn't solve it, you could try flipping the kingpin nut around so that the nylon is on the bolt threads, so you don't need to screw it in as far. Or get a shorter road-side bushing. Also be sure to check with WowGo if needed.
@@DanielKwan Hi Daniel, Thanks for the reply.
I've reassembled and disassembled the truck numerous times, all of which where the kingpin was centre and bushings were sitting properly (at least to my eye on inspection) on the hangar. Always had difficulty at the end since there wasn't enough lead on the kingpin for the nut, so I had to compress the bushings manually with my thumbs to get enough to be able to start tightening the nut.
I bought some orangatang nipples recently to see if just changing the bushings will help, but I suspect that the rear kingpin might be shorter than the front one since that was also found on the wowgo 2.
@@deekay9441 maybe softer bushings might be a good option for you
A more invasive solution would be buying a replacement kingpin. I'm not sure how the trucks on that board are, but most truck brands offer a replacement kingpin. Contact wowgo before you do this though, it would definitely void any warranty you have.
Wow so I got pretty decent at skate n downhill as well as learning slides but this has been the most informative vid n ya boi been riding on fucked bushings fs lol
I’m looking at getting some new trucks, I’m thinking of the Paris V3 180mm 50* or the caliber 3’s (same angle and size) which would be better for cruising and commuting? If it helps I’m 200lbs in weight
Either one should be fine. Think I’d go for Caliber 3 tho for the Venom plug barrel compatibility.
Awesome video, cold studio ?
Yes! High ceiling. Hard to warm up this space.
please d.k give the wowgo at 2 another shot, i know you had a bad experience last time , but its a good board.
I think it's a great board!
It's works
Does this apply to eskateboards as well? At higher speeds, speed wobble can get gross with unbalanced pneumatic tires.
Applies to eboards with RKP trucks, and probably TKP. Doesn’t apply to DKP trucks except for Exway’s.
Nice vid!
Tell me please, do I really need Plug Barrels for CalIber II?
No you can use normal barrels too
@@DanielKwan sad that Orangatang Nipples is impossible to use…
Have bunch of them :))
Got week ago 2ndHand Moonshine Elixir with Calibers.
Can’t get to understand how I like them after Paris v3
Any advice for how to adjust double king pin?
The easiest way is to adjust the boardside kingpin sections to be as tight as possible so they move as little as possible, and then adjust the roadside kingpins the same way you would on reverse kingpin trucks.
@@DanielKwan Thanks Daniel will try that out. Awesome videos as always.
Where did you get that longboard/skateboard rack that holds all your boards?
Taobao
@@DanielKwan Thanks, bro. Keep on making great videos. Super informative.
I put new bushings on my gullwing mission 1 trucks but every time I try to get on my board it leans too much to the left and I cant even get on the board. Any help would be appreciated
Hard to say without seeing it in person but generally speaking, the board is supposed to lean. You could consider taking the board to a skate shop and ask the staff to help.
One question , why you need to tight more the back than front?
Thanks
You don’t have to, but having the rear less maneuverable makes speed wobbles less likely to happen.
Thanks
I have barrel bushings and I ride down hill so I have my trucks really tight should I have them looser or tighter and does it being to tight cause rattling I'm having rattling problems and everything is new and tight and I can't figure out why it's rattling
You can leave them tight for now but they’ll wear out faster. Tight shouldn’t cause rattling. Could be the spacer inside a wheel, or a bad bearing. Check the screws holding the baseplates also.
One reason I generally don't agree with this 2 turns idea is because a lot of trucks have bushing seats slightly larger than a standard barrel, and deforming the bushing to fill the seat can be beneficial for consistency and stability.
I just got my first longboard, and when I get to a certain speed it begins to rattle quite loudly, i don’t think it’s the wheels, and I feel like it’s the trucks, but I’m not rlly sure what to do.
I find that rattling normally comes from the spacer inside one of the wheels (that tube between the bearings). Shake the board and see if you hear rattling from one of the wheels.
Could also be a loose washer on the trucks.
I ride an Ownboard Mini KT which is rather unstable, and I keep the trucks extremely tight. I can’t seem to get the back truck off to change the bushing because the cable is too short, any ideas?
Doesn’t that board use those 9-pin cables that you can unplug? Worst case you just have to take off the ESC enclosure.
Question, is it viable to go loose in the front, tight in the back? Or should i just go loose on both. My board is Zealot S
You can. Personal preference. That would give you good turning radius and better carving in the front, but less stability overall. But if the back are pretty tight, you can compensate for the lack of stability a little bit in the front, while also getting more turning ability then if both trucks were "medium" tightness. Just gotta test it out for yourself.
My caliber trucks are brand new, straight out the box, and they wont turn at all. ive tried loosening them, tightening them.. nothing works. my board leans, but my trucks dont move. Any advice?
How is that possible? If it leans, it should turn, unless your baseplate is 0°.
heyyyy yang gang
I'm waiting for double kingpin.
if he does this tutorial I hope he shows how you can order a bushing upgrade kit from riptide for DKP trucks.
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Don't
@@quinnfoster4671 Same here
Hey, Daniel, thanks for this video. Question: Doesn't the truck adjustment and guideline have to take the rider's weight into consideration, too? So, what might feel too tight for one rider may not feel tight enough for a heavier rider?
Weight, experience, personal preference, etc. You gotta test it out and adjust accordingly. Generally heavier riders need higher durometer bushings.
@@DanielKwan Thanks...
is it bad that i can hear the washer rattling when riding?
If you’re sure it’s the bushing washer that’s rattling, then your truck might be too loose. Not necessarily ‘bad’ tho if that feels fine to you and nothing’s falling apart.
@@DanielKwan got it, thanks!
I cant even tighten mine, my back wheels were put on great but the front trucks wont get "Flush" as you put it, it doesnt seem to go any further than where it's at and its super squeaky and annoying
Are you using aftermarket parts? Could be your bushings are taller than stock bushings.
I got backfire g2 this will work?
Yes
How Tight Should I Tighten My Trucks On My Backfire Zealot? I Am Afraid Of Speed Wobble But I Do Drive In Turbo.
Zealot’s stock bushings are quite hard. Try following the steps in this video.
should adjust both equally? Noise and tail?
You can, but don’t have to. For higher speeds you may want to set the rear to be less maneuverable than the front. There are various ways to do that.
@@DanielKwan thanks. Im new with this
To fo sliding, i have to loose or tight?
Loose at low speeds. At higher speeds you’ll have less grip, you can go tighter for stability and still be able to slide.
honestly idk how loose my trucks should be cus I thought they were at a good point (in between loose and tight) but I still can't turn so I'm not sure :/
Basically the idea is to be able to turn as tight as you can while still maintaining stability at your higher speeds. whatever speed is the fastest you're comfortable with, adjust your trucks only as tight as you need to maintain stability at that speed.
I think my bolts shorter from skating em i always skated with tight trucks till my homie showed me using his board how loose trucks let me catch rails n turn easier my boards bolts seem to short to make em lose tho
Yo can anyone help me out I got a new skateboard and I can't turn
where can i get the hat?
Here I am slamming my bushings until they look like compressed pancakes lol I went from 92 to 95 now have 98a coming for my DKP trucks lol
For most DKP trucks the bushings do need to be more compressed than on RKP trucks, even with hard duros.
First tip of the video: Tighten it to the point where you can't turn the washer
Me: **remembers the hours of hearing my washers rattle because of how loose I liked my trucks**
saaaame
When you gonna drop the donut review?
Around the 6:30 mark, looks like you lost a big chunk of the wheel. Heh.
I sure did
Never loan out your boards ?
I think mines are too tight dang it !!! Lol
squeeak
Actually I need new bushings. I Go murder hard doh-doh's on east coast 4 stair gaps to break them in . If you new to the board it's Ollie north tail grab practice instead.
P..s Oust abec bearings are are a pro tip no one admits!
Well I don't have a board right now.
I need new everything!
I want my deathwish on ricta speed core wide hollow 11's mob grip cause I'm old. Grew up on shorty s lucky grip and hardware. Hook-ups addictions were an epidemic. And I'm pref wood over slicks
Maple board finnish option in ccs/case catalog. This recommendation algorithm is not the sharpest tool in the klien bag!
*Maths*
The 'finger-tight' thing, as a 'starting Point', means that it's 'Subjective' to begin with... And, really does NOT take into account Bushing resilience nor Hardness, and, obviously, not SHAPING (which as "PSR", the guy that 25 years ago, re-introduced the Stimulator, to DH'ers, and Inspired Venom by Zak).. YOU ARE Far better off, After your 'washer-spin&Dry-Cycle' Test, to COUNT Threads on the Kingpin! THAT's the EVIDENCE of Compression Force Applied! If you've got 4 threads exposed on a given truck (luges excepted) above the Nut, You're 'Crushing It'! By 'it', I mean your grouping of bushings. 1-to-5 threads of Exposed threading, Above-the-nut. Otherwise, look HARD at your Bushings, in Hardness, Shaping, Height, and Width, along-with, Your Washers!! Washers do come in various shapes, and thicknesses, too! Having a 'Selection Sources' of various Bushings, Matters!! They, the bushings, are CHEAP, so, Stock-up, Make Options, exchange as needed. "PRE SCHOOL RIDER" (was on ncdsa, b4 you were on a Tryke)
I can't fix now i take out all my skate board trucks all nut
I'm a beginner. I'd rather try. The more I watch videos like this, the less I want to belong to a one-nut tuners club :(
NO
I mean good video bit this leaves out so much info like the fact that both paris and caliber don't have the same length kingpin, it leave out duros which are a huge piece of picking bushings it leave out bushing shapes and you say they vary in size but that's not true all street teuck bushings are the same height all standard RKP trucks use the same size bushings only few RKP trucks use tall bushings, the lack of info makes this video nothing but subjective based off stock bushings and that doesn't help also bushings again come in duros which are geared towards certian weights I'm 215lbs I used 90a/91a front and 95a/95a back someone who's 180 isn't gonna get the same ride out of that set up as me even if they loosen the trucks and some teucks like my ronins can't be tighten passed 2 threads says the maker of the truck also 2 threads showing on caliber or paris isn't to tight at all in fact 2 threads showing was the standard for how tight you should go before people started getting into the technical side of things
You're making it really hard not to make a racist joke, wearing that beanie...
dude why would you even say that 💀
I can finally make use of the dislike comment button
@@cem3116 not like it does anything lol