Best Office Chair Tier List (30 Ranked For Comfort)

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    In this tier list, we cover 30 of the most popular office chairs and rank each based on comfort. With this format, we have eliminated cost from the equation and solely look at comfort only. If you’ve been in the search for the most comfortable chair, this is the tier list you want to watch.
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    0:07 All33 Backstrong
    1:17 ErgoChair Pro - amzn.to/3pwvFfh (Amazon)
    1:59 BTOD Akir - bit.ly/2k7iItN (BTOD)
    3:29 Clatina Mellet - amzn.to/3EeX4s3 (Amazon)
    5:32 Ergohuman LE9ERG - bit.ly/2lIR2LZ (BTOD)
    7:15 Ergohuman ME7ERG - bit.ly/2lIR2LZ (BTOD)
    8:29 Eurotech Vera amzn.to/3BISKA2 (Amazon)
    10:06 Haworth Fern - haworth.pxf.io/4eQJYL (Haworth) amzn.to/3vdmG6k (Amazon)
    11:59 HM Aeron
    14:23 Steelcase Leap - amzn.to/3JOgGVz (Amazon) bit.ly/302lAbT (BTOD Refurb)
    15:50 Hon Ignition - amzn.to/3st8UdA (Amazon)
    16:55 Staples Hyken - amzn.to/3pdrBAb (Amazon)
    18:01 Humanscale Freedom - bit.ly/2kzjJe7 (BTOD)
    20:13 Secret Lab Titan
    21:56 IKEA Markus - amzn.to/3MVRAWm (Amazon)
    23:58 Knoll Regeneration
    25:44 NP BTC - bit.ly/37HO3eS (BTOD)
    27:30 Nightingale CXO - amzn.to/3rkCSzI (Amazon)
    29:03 OM Yes - bit.ly/3eZUlqy (BTOD)
    30:47 Haworth Zody - haworth.pxf.io/BXZxLJ (Haworth) amzn.to/3tOGTwW (Amazon)
    33:20 HM Embody
    35:04 Sidiz t50 - amzn.to/3FzTxoX (Amazon)
    37:09 HM Mirra 2
    38:37 Steelcase Amia - amzn.to/3pXUZLd (Amazon) bit.ly/2Vg7xyD (BTOD Refurb)
    39:49 Steelcase Gesture - amzn.to/3t4YsIr (Amazon)
    42:02 Haworth Soji - haworth.pxf.io/yRdy5B (Haworth) amzn.to/3HYoyCw (Amazon)
    43:17 Diffrient Smart - bit.ly/2lGvJLm (BTOD)
    44:46 HM Sayl - (OfficeDesign)
    46:11 NP 8000 - bit.ly/3HaEnWh (BTOD)
    48:11 Steelcase Lamia - bit.ly/45ErrFD (BTOD)
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  • @btodtv
    @btodtv  ปีที่แล้ว +17

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    • @Meaper2U
      @Meaper2U ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Is there a list where I can read the chairs in tier. Tough to tell by the looks, never researched chairs before.

    • @jasonrebelo181
      @jasonrebelo181 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quick Q: Where does the Tikova make it on this list? i was about to pull the trigger on it being only $300 (realistic expectations of course, home office/gaming) but NOT being on this list at all concerns me after learning the bang for buck may not be worth it! :) be a friend guys, quick question based on this tier list, i just watched the entire video, so this gives me your perspectives on the list comparison, somewhat of course, most are higher price/quality than Tikova. Where does your group rate Tikova on, on THIS Comfort tier list?
      Based on:
      Ticova Ergonomic Office Chair - High Back Desk Chair with Adjustable Lumbar Support, Headrest & 3D Metal Armrest - 130°Rocking Mesh Computer Chair
      Client side: ive always had nicer office chairs at work, but cheap cushioned typical big box leather chairs at home with no back support and no longer want to go this route for home (i need to replace both chairs in his/her offices currently so looking at Tikova online, or biting the typical choice and just buying a $150-200 office store specials... which we all know will disappoint and not last but current priorities .. i guess. Budget is $100-$400 all in, 3-4 hours butt time when used, bad back so really wanted lumbar and 5'5-5'10".
      Your feedback on this would be awesome!
      Thanks,
      Jason

    • @unschooled_art
      @unschooled_art ปีที่แล้ว

      @BTODtv Where is a reputable place to buy a gently used Mirra 2? I have a couple companies (Seating Mind and Madison Seating) that constantly pop up when I am looking but I am hesitant to use them. I would like a loaded Mirra 2 but would prefer it at a cheaper price. If buying used, I want to be sure it has been professionally cleaned and working correctly. Maybe a video on sourcing good used Herman Miller chairs should be put on the idea list for upcoming videos? 🤔🤞

    • @KennedytheDancer2
      @KennedytheDancer2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't sit on these chairs padmasana, vajrasana, sukhasana, baddha konasana.

    • @AbuWasabi
      @AbuWasabi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could You do a review on the NobleRocker gaming chair not there icon

  • @someoneintheinternet7443
    @someoneintheinternet7443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +721

    I never thought I would be addicted to chair reviews... But here we are.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Welcome :) -GK

    • @travisladwig7711
      @travisladwig7711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here!

    • @briimarie2218
      @briimarie2218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Omg same here!!! I don't even need one I watch for my fiance who doesn't even watch the videos with me 🤣🤣🤣

    • @trollzone1
      @trollzone1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too the content this channel makes is great.

    • @timetraveler_0
      @timetraveler_0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to the community!

  • @jfromtheblocc6306
    @jfromtheblocc6306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    This list has been very helpful to narrow my pick on a new chair (currently using a generic Amazon gaming chair btw) I think putting a visual price tag on each chair that’s shown would definitely be a big help on those who might want to choose between quality and budget.

    • @heftyjo2893
      @heftyjo2893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yea, I agree. I'm always a bang for the buck kind of shopper. Basically I had to click on every chair in the linked description and cross reference to their rating in the video. Looks like the "OM Yes High-Back" is the winner here for me. It comes in at $600 and yet slips into the 'B' Tier alongside other chairs that are over twice as expensive. And it has an option for a headrest.

    • @MOZ429
      @MOZ429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @FAUX NEWS STATE TV i was also doing chair shopping, and i went with a refurbished leap.

    • @GandaBaer
      @GandaBaer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MOZ429 what was the price for a used leap?

    • @Lordosvk
      @Lordosvk ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes. We need price tags.

    • @lesjones471
      @lesjones471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On checking each chair I believe a larger number of testers who would be isolated from each other and blind folded would help to give an overhaul winner.Prices would not be helpful in the test.

  • @RikkiTikkiTavi290
    @RikkiTikkiTavi290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I picked up an Amia Air chair after an exhaustive amount of research and couldnt be happier. Extremely comfortable, doesn't give me back or leg pain, tons of adjustments if you get the full package, good thermals, etc.

    • @JulioJairdeAlba
      @JulioJairdeAlba ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's the difference between amia and amia air?

    • @archangelgabriel5316
      @archangelgabriel5316 ปีที่แล้ว

      make sure you buy smooth roller wheels. game changer. basically roller blade wheels. sooooo smoooooooth. I have a regular armia

    • @RobSquared44
      @RobSquared44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you find it breathable?

  • @ecllippse
    @ecllippse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I actually agree with the Lamia there. That's what I felt like when I first tested out steelcase chairs and asked the salesguy about this. Currently in an Amia and would like the back of the Leap.

  • @molohov3875
    @molohov3875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Agreed on the Zody - without the forward tilt function, the chair feels too far back reclined. I ended up swapping it with an Amia, which is great! And now that I have a Leap and Amia, I wish there was a Lamia too!

    • @fieryscorpion
      @fieryscorpion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is more confortable? Leap or Amia?

    • @molohov3875
      @molohov3875 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fieryscorpion I prefer the Amia

    • @fieryscorpion
      @fieryscorpion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@molohov3875 Great. Thank you. I'll go for it then.

  • @necrojoe
    @necrojoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to work for a Hon/Allsteel dealer. The Ignition was only ever proposed in bid situations because our discounting was so good, with the assumption it would get replaced with something nicer once the project was awarded...but it wasn't always, so it still would sell in the thousands.
    The one nice thing about the headrest is that if it aligns with your neck/head, when you recline you still face forward, rather than up to the ceiling when you recline.
    I do wish more task chairs had full-recline like the gaming "racing seat" style chairs.
    One of my clients was standardized on the Embody. The first one I ever sat in was the single most comfortable chair I've ever sat in. But every other example (hundreds), I've never been able to set them to be comfortable. They also get creaky/rattley over a short time, and the seat pad feels so firm. That client ended up switching to the Okamura Sylphy for their worldwide-standard.
    My old office standardized on the Diffrient Smart, and we instantly had lots of complaints and requests for alternate chairs, and most if us went back to our old Allsteel Acuity.
    When I worked for a Teknion dealer, and still to this day, my favorite daily driver was the Teknion (made by Okamura) Contessa, with the upholstered seat...but beyond that, one customer wanted an extra 1/2 of memory foam, so custom seat pads were made for them. Aaaaaamazing.

  • @RyoHazuki911
    @RyoHazuki911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really enjoying my T50, I upgraded from a Markus and it is definitely a tier up from that. The adjustability and having the option to tilt the seat base for tasking make it a worthy upgrade.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having more adjustments can definitely make your chair more comfortable, with a better fit. The Markus just isn't adjustable enough to fine tune for most people -GK

    • @dobeebig3058
      @dobeebig3058 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just receive T50, the lumbar support is so bad, it is so stiff and poking my back which causes my back pain, have to return it

  • @xosammyb
    @xosammyb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I work at an office and for the longest time had hated my chair. I had a cheap racing-style seat. The other day i was considering ordering a new chair because I just got a raise. Then out of nowhere I discovered a leather ergohuman chair like you have at 5:41 in a utility closet that no one had touched in years! I had maybe seen it once before and just assumed it wasn't going to be that comfortable. Then i looked online to see how much they cost and that it's actually a pretty great chair. Using it now and I love it so far.

  • @Cetraphal
    @Cetraphal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    These chair review videos have helped me greatly in my search for a new computer chair for my home use. I was debating between the leap, gesture, zody, and embody, and after sitting in an embody in person today I've made my mind. Glad to see that the chair seems to be well regarded overall!

    • @eriksaari4430
      @eriksaari4430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why not fern

    • @rowen0fstrata
      @rowen0fstrata ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you like the embody after 10 months?

    • @Cetraphal
      @Cetraphal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rowen0fstrata I actually had a steelcase gesture that was used but almost untouched come up for sale local to me for a very good price so i jumped on it. Overall i prefer the embody, but my gesture is a damn good chair, and for half the price you cant beat it.

  • @rockysmith9286
    @rockysmith9286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Longtime Aeron user here. I thought it couldn't get any better but started noticing upper leg pain after a while. The seat has a very hard, curved edge to it. This cut into my legs and actually caused a ton of discomfort. I just picked up the Embody and absolutely love it.

    • @tvm2209
      @tvm2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'll love the Embody- I've had mine for over 4 years now and use daily between 6-14 hours a day and it still looks brand new to this day with absolutely zero maintenance, and trust me I abuse this chair it's just that well built!

    • @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
      @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the gaming embody by Logitech?

    • @tvm2209
      @tvm2209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Nah, I have the original version as I wasn’t a fan of the look of the Logitech version.

    • @Sprillex
      @Sprillex ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I had my aeron for…. Maybe 7 years and I do really like the chair but not for extended sitting. The recline like they say in the review is literally the best out of any chair but for me the lack of upper head support is a deal breaker. The leg aspect quit bothering me shortly after getting used to it.
      Luckily the aeron build quality is incredible and I was able to resell it within a week very easily by just putting it on fb marketplace. It looked brand new still after years.

    • @r3dbullbbs
      @r3dbullbbs ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive bought a headrest for my aeron, its kinda expensive but its worth it.

  • @Irongalaxies
    @Irongalaxies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can't speak for all of these chairs, but having sat in several HM chairs and Vertagear/Secret Labs chairs...and owning 2 of the Clatina Mellet, the Clatina chair definitely punches way above it's price point as the cheapest chair in this lineup. The arm rests are weak, however a memory foam cover fixes that. I feel like it was initially graded correctly at a C, in terms of comfort for value, S tier, no question.

  • @Frostyrice
    @Frostyrice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just got home from a long 12 hour shift and here i am sitting on the toilet, my only free time, to watch office chair reviews.

  • @vanng1579
    @vanng1579 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you guys do a review for the LF gaming chair?

  • @CAPOCAP
    @CAPOCAP ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a HM Embody and the HM Sayl. Embody is comfortable to the nth degree, but agree with it pushing your shoulder blades forward and starting to have issues myself. The Sayl is a great alternative with its back and lumbar support. It also has adjustable armrests that now go inwards and outwards. It works for me because I am also 5' 9"-10" (178cm). This review is fantastic cuz it gives three different perspectives of each chair and gave pointers on why I like and don't like the chairs I already have. Thanks!

    • @LostStylus
      @LostStylus ปีที่แล้ว

      I also has both of these chairs and while I can use the Sayl somewhat, I have a love-hate relationship with Embody. Whatever I do it hurts my legs - either thighs or calves, depending on settings. Tried to adjust to it for three months and thinking of selling it now. The problem is that butt sinks much lower than thighs. I am sitting on an old Ikea chair while typing this - it doesn't kill my legs like HM chairs do.

    • @sittkukk8278
      @sittkukk8278 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LostStylus Can relate. I had Aeron B that was amazing except the seat cut off blood flow and I had an Embody that felt like i was sitting on a plastic frame w the front edge lip

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Gaming Embody fixes the shoulder issue.

  • @Katzh
    @Katzh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    not sure I would give an A or S to a chair without headrest.

  • @moltenbullet
    @moltenbullet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Aeron is the only chair I've sat in for 8 - 10 hours straight (apart from toilet breaks and water breaks). I use the Leap v2 today, which is also really close to achieving that, BUT, the leap v2 is really warm for me (and I suspect this would be the same problem for all the non-mesh chairs). I use it in a non-aircon room and I live in a tropical country. I sweat in in constantly, so apart from general comfort, it also kinda smells after just an hour or so no matter how often i clean it. The only reason I let my Aeron go was because I fell between size B and C, and my back wasn't always touching the back rest on my size C (and yet it was still holding me up for houurrs). Size B would have dug too much into my thighs. If the Aeron had a seat adjustment and brought me closer to the back by 2cm, it would be THE perfect chair. And god, that reclining mechanism alone makes me wish I had kept it around in the house.

    • @fellerets
      @fellerets ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you have, Aeron Classir or Remastered?

    • @magicpoopfart8363
      @magicpoopfart8363 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I LOVE my Aeron Remastered

    • @AroundTheHope
      @AroundTheHope ปีที่แล้ว

      @@magicpoopfart8363 What height are u?

    • @nikita2560
      @nikita2560 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your height, I am 6,3 and having the same issue

    • @xPlasmaz
      @xPlasmaz ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry but your experience describes my exact scenario right now. @moltenbullet what chair are you using now?

  • @RexRude99
    @RexRude99 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Excellent video. I was suckered into buying a gaming chair, so I'm really looking to ditch that and get something GOOD for a change. All of the comparisons you made really help to cover the overwhelming amount of options out there.

  • @Hydrophish
    @Hydrophish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant and extremely useful review! Thanks for doing this!

  • @spookytk
    @spookytk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Amia is the bomb. I got one by chance. I have three of them now. I get them used and for the price it's the absolute best. I like it more than my Embody and Gesture for less than a 5th the price. I just like how the Embody and Gesture look more, I want the Gesture to be the best but the Amia IS more comfortable.

  • @timothydog76
    @timothydog76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've had an HM Embody for almost a couple years now and it's amazing. Best back of any chair I've tried. I am a taller guy at 6'1" and don't really have the same complaint about pushing your shoulders forward. Do you guys still have the same complaint even after adjusting the back setting with the dial? I like that I can really fine-tune the upper back with the knob.

    • @robertoleal8214
      @robertoleal8214 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are clueless about long term use of some of these chairs. And I mean years of use.

    • @djWOOF
      @djWOOF ปีที่แล้ว

      My fav chair ive had

  • @zLello
    @zLello ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really thanks for the great review! I have to buy a new chair and I'm choosing between HM Mirra 2 (1100€ with Triflex + mesh back), Steelcase Amia (about 900€) or Gesture (with Headrest about 1200€ and w/o 1000€). Near my town there is a HM official dealer so I wanted to choose the Mirra but u placed Amia and Gesture a tier above. I usually stay on my chair 12+ hours a day and I really need a comfortable product with a strong lumbar support. (I'm 187cm for 90kg) which products should I buy?

  • @campitcher8507
    @campitcher8507 ปีที่แล้ว

    This recap of all these popular chairs is awesome. Thank you for doing this!

  • @mariepiasecki8067
    @mariepiasecki8067 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    While this video is very helpful, I wanted to add a comment for anyone out there who like me is very sensitive to pressure on the backs of their thighs. In the past, I used an Aeron chair and a variety of unidentifiable task chairs. My current desk chair provided at my workplace is a NPS8600. The Neutral Posture chair was probably the most comfortable chair I've ever used, even if it is a bit on the bulkier side. I came to this video looking for a chair to replace my Markus chair at home that would maybe be a bit more stylish than the NPS8600. Since I'm sensitive to pressure on my legs, I usually look for a seat pan that can tilt forward (which my NPS chair has) but it isn't a particularly common chair feature. After watching this video which includes the NPS8000 compared with a wide variety of chairs including the Aeron and several other videos online, I purchased an Amia chair to replace a Markus chair in my home office. Its been roughly a week and this is probably the biggest regret purchase I've made in a long time. The fiberglass waterfall is way too much pressure, I can feel my circulation cutting off and every time I'm in the chair, even for just a few minutes. In no time I can feel my ankles and knees starting to swell, and I can rarely sit in the chair for more than 30 min without needing to get up. I have gone through chair setup multiple times trying to fix the issue and even rearranging my desk, but nothing has helped. Unfortunately, I will likely be getting rid of this chair and replacing it with an NPS chair. Personally, I think the comfort and flexibility of the NPS chair is really undersold across the internet. I also really wish they had more videos featuring the rest of neutral posture's line of chairs, as I think their seat is one of the most comfortable out there in ergonomic chairs.

  • @leremygan
    @leremygan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wait wait wait, serious question here. So we can actually get an Amia seat and assemble it into a Leap just like that? Any modification requires?

  • @ThePheenixKing.
    @ThePheenixKing. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Soo I have had a racing style gaming chair for like 7-8 years now (an ak racing brand one) and I absolutely love it. I use it for gaming, watching movies, studying and other work and I love the way it centers me. Since the "leather" is starting to flake of I was thinking of buying a new chair and had heard a lot of good stuff about the Secretlab TITAN Evo 2022. Your review gave me second thoughts but I generally love that style of chair much more than typical office style chairs. Would it therefore still be a good idea for me to buy the Titan? Thanks for any help and great video! Cheers :)

    • @smievil
      @smievil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe same one again would be fine.
      7-8 years seem pretty good

  • @tropicalstarburst7364
    @tropicalstarburst7364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I literally paused the video, turned up the volume, and leaned in to listen to what your S-tier chair was going to be. You absolutely rolled me with the Lamia, and now I must build one.

  • @Sheijian
    @Sheijian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    I swear to god, if Steelcase doesn't produce the Lamia until the end of this year, I'll have to call Elon Musk.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      LOLOL. Pinned -GK

    • @Shearsy013
      @Shearsy013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@btodtv (O_O) - As you mentioned add a Gesture Headrest to it. This will be fun. XD

    • @adamtajhassam9188
      @adamtajhassam9188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lamia broke within 5 months. Need a S tier replacement . please and ty.

    • @ericanderson1753
      @ericanderson1753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      I work at Steelcase. Should I float the Lamia idea?

    • @Shearsy013
      @Shearsy013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@ericanderson1753 do it!! APAC Seating team got a kick out if it! I cannot imagine what HQ will say 😏

  • @epaillas
    @epaillas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really helpful and fun to watch, as always.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! -GK

  • @niemandskind
    @niemandskind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for doing this video - was hoping for one rated on comfort alone.
    It would be great if your videos could include comfort for shorter people (ahem, women) as we’re getting three guys’ opinions with these videos. After all, a 5 ft 2 woman’s comfort will not be the same as a 6ft or even 5’9 tall man’s e.g. based on backrest height, location of lumbar support/curve and seat depth. (The video of top office chairs for petite people doesn’t focus on comfort - though helpfully, the only one in both that and this video is the Steelcase Leap v2.)
    Also agree with comments about the graphics/Tavel containing labels of the name of the chair either throughout the review or in a summary at the end (wouldn’t be able to skip to the summary since that wouldn’t explain why a lamia would be the best seat!). Thanks!

    • @jirta1439
      @jirta1439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it is very difficult to find any accurate reviews of chairs with smaller people in mind so I have no idea if these would really work for me

  • @vigneshj3313
    @vigneshj3313 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! I am surprised that the Fern and Soji, two chairs at completely different price points at Haworth would be on the same tier!! Awesome video

  • @DungeonMetal
    @DungeonMetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Primarily based on your videos, I bought a Haworth Zody, and I am immensely happy I did. It’s the most comfortable chair I’ve personally ever sat in, and I never want to get up.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is great to hear. Thanks for sharing -GK

  • @Sean1647
    @Sean1647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Managed to find a year old Haworth Zody for $130, just had to clean the wheels and get the dog hair off the seat. Been absolutely loving it.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a nice find for the price! -GK

  • @sheelthadhani8708
    @sheelthadhani8708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your videos! They're super informative

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome, thank you for watching! -GK

  • @davidslawson3622
    @davidslawson3622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you considered doing a survey of chairs over the ages to see if the top rated chairs from say the 90's have been materially improved upon by the best of the 2020's? Also, have you ever tested the Life chair from Formway? Thanks, David Slawson.

  • @FelixWalton
    @FelixWalton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    these videos are so helpful, thanks guys! Would be even better if you could include the name of the chair in the pictures on the tier list - it's kinda hard to keep track after a while

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re welcome! Thanks for the suggestion. We can definitely try and see if it’s legible. They are super small boxes -GK

    • @FelixWalton
      @FelixWalton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@btodtv leaving the text in the corner up for the whole time you're talking about them might work too!

  • @PatrickPierceBateman
    @PatrickPierceBateman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should show us how to contruct a Lamia ourselves. I have the Leap V2, so all I need is to add the cushions from the Amia, right?

  • @slickill5738
    @slickill5738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instantly interested due to the seemingly eternal quest for a chair my back likes long term. Glad I found this channel. Subscribed !

  • @WhiffenC
    @WhiffenC ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! I've had a Nightingale CXO for 8 years that I bought second-hand for $500 and never went back, the only chair I've bought since (have 4 now and they are all still great) so it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts!

  • @progresshd8801
    @progresshd8801 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredible review boys. I’m knees deep into search of chairs and I’m going to see what someone has in stock in Orlando area . He has leather Amias for 180?? But also supreme condition aerons and what not , so I’m definitely looking to spend 600 max on a used one of these chairs . Great job really going the mile having so many perspectives while explaining your experience . I’d love to be a part of this

  • @apocalypsemaow4563
    @apocalypsemaow4563 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the best video break down of chairs ever. I have the Ergohuman LE9ERG and after hearing you guys thoughts Ill be ordering a Amia from you! fantastic work!!!

  • @asdf51501
    @asdf51501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went with the Aeron and bought a third party headrest for it. I absolutely love it.

  • @bdBebop
    @bdBebop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is there any difference in comfort from the stock Leap v2 vs the refurbished one you sell with the extra 1/2 inch padding? Does that take care of the tailbone issue some experience? Thanks.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, our goal is to make it feel like a new Leap. There were a lot smarter people involved in the development of the Leap than us. If you want something with more padding, I would look for an alternative chair -GK

    • @ilovegamesXD
      @ilovegamesXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought BTOD's refurbished Amia chair after hearing about the extra padding added while being the most cushioned Steelcase chair. The chair was great other than getting sweaty. But I found my tailbone getting sore after a while. I checked my adjustments to make sure everything was good and still no luck. Adding a half-inch foam it only delayed the soreness and caused me to sit too high digging the frame into my back. I'm roughly 6 foot tall, ~180 pounds for reference. I've seen some people say if you slouch you'll likely experience tailbone pain as well which could be a factor as well.
      I've since returned it with their great customer service. So if you're okay with possibly returning it, give it a shot!
      Still looking for a chair though. Considering the AKIR or Eurotech Vera for better cushioning. Wish I could try these chairs in-store 😞

  • @georgepierre3594
    @georgepierre3594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should add the tritek ergo select chair, it has 4d armrests, lumbar support adjustability, back chair height adjustability. really comfortable chair.

  • @mhwachter833
    @mhwachter833 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you’re watching this just understand that a vast majority of the higher rated chairs are pretty expensive. I’m all for “you get what you pay for” but I bought the staples hyken for around 150-160 and can’t believe for a second these guys rated it a D-F. I work from home and sit in it for 8+ hrs and love it. Many positions to lock in, full recline for the boring teams meetings, and the headrest is a huge plus and also adjustable for however far reclined you are. So much so that I’ll find it hard ever going back to an office chair without a headrest. All things considered, I’m sure many of these chairs are better, but don’t break the bank thinking there aren’t great budget seats around.

    • @final3119
      @final3119 ปีที่แล้ว

      Things you should spend a lot of money on are anything that separates you from the ground. High quality tires on your car, supportive shoes, a good mattress, and an ergonomic chair. Your $200 chair is definitely better than a dining chair or fold up chair, but it doesn’t have the support, quality and warranty that a $1000 chair would have. Considering Herman Millers can last 10-20 years, thats like $10 a month all said and done. A high upfront cost but its one and done. Your staples chair is going to fall apart in 1-5 years and not have replacement parts.

    • @mhwachter833
      @mhwachter833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@final3119 again I’m all for the getting what you pay for mantra. I was simply letting people know, if you’re budgeting for more than just a chair, you don’t have spend thousands of dollars to get something very comfortable very sturdy and reasonably priced. The same goes for most things.
      There comes a point of diminishing returns.
      The $1600 chair is 10x the cost of my $160 chair, I have to ask myself, is the other chair 10x better? Probably not. The same is true for everything else. Is the $2500 monitor better than the $900 one? Obviously yes, but everything is relative, and compromises need to be made somewhere, for most people.
      Eventually I will get a better chair. I’m perfectly ok with that happening in stages and I assume most people feel the same.

  • @sojirou
    @sojirou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great list! I had the chance to spend many years using the Leap and Aeron which are my 2 favourite chairs but am considering the Gesture for home use to replace the Cosm. If you're wondering why I'm replacing it, the simple reason is that my Cosm has broken 3 times in 3 years (since launch). Each time, it would take 3+ months to replace the Auto-Harmonic Tilt "leaf spring" and apparently no one else in the whole world faces this same issue.

    • @mottykytu
      @mottykytu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you prefer Aeron or Leap ? And why !?

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aeron is king, perfect fit for me. Had mine for a decade, no issues and is still going strong.

  • @GrechStudios
    @GrechStudios ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17:44 I can’t believe it, I had the exact same reaction on the Hyken after using it for a while! I realized the seat dipping back was forcing me to slouch. It was impossible to sit straight in this thing. I actually did eventually replace it with a wood chair! At least I could try to sit straight. Felt kind of bad because it was my first chair I bought. Oh well, lesson learned.

  • @1vladbara
    @1vladbara ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that you included the tall guy review is decisive for me (a tall guy). Amazing video (and all your other review articles)!!!!!!! Thank you very much!!!

  • @BrotherNineinChicago
    @BrotherNineinChicago ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the awesome video guys, super informative and fun to watch

  • @BuckstarrZ
    @BuckstarrZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It would be nice if you could put timestamps/chapters for each chair. Thank you for your work!

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We normally do. I failed and will add them -GK

  • @billpaloukas
    @billpaloukas ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it would be cool to see you guys compare the Mavix chair as well. You've already compared gaming chairs to office chairs. I would like to see how the M9 actually compares to them as well

    • @Xynlr123
      @Xynlr123 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just sold off my m9 after a year of use, sad to say but it was really the worst chair I’ve ever sat in

  • @twinstars8812
    @twinstars8812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would you recommend at $6-700 range? I am looking for one with a nice recline comfortability. I was thinking about a used Fern, but wondering if there is anything else that's I should look into. Thanks!

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The video Ryan did for best under $800 is a good place to start -GK

  • @boolaga
    @boolaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I appreciate the stinginess on handing out S tiers. I don't think it makes sense to give something a S tier if there's a legitimate critique about it. Thanks for the video!

  • @jessecheung1153
    @jessecheung1153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a Butterfly ergonomic chair from ergoup 3 years ago. many fantastic functions than regular chairs. I believe you guys will like it as well after testing.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a knock off of the Ergohuman chai right? -GK

  • @WhitePointerGaming
    @WhitePointerGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where would you rank the IOO chair? Specifically the model with the fabric seat? Used to be known as Ergoflex I believe but now has the Ergohuman branding.

  • @chrislaue2391
    @chrislaue2391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've "zippered" two of the Mirra 2 chairs in my office just from sitting in them - meaning I've split the back rest down the middle. I'm not overly heavy, 225-ish, just under 6ft. No abnormal usage of the chair at all - regular sitting and working, some leaning back, but nothing it shouldn't be able to handle.

    • @heddihx
      @heddihx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro out here at 100+kg saying not overly heavy. US really uses another scale for everything

  • @33jsi
    @33jsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First, love these videos! Completely addicted. My job is giving me 1k towards a home office and I'm putting it all towards a chair. I'm 6 ft, 225 with a history of sciatica and lower back pain. Was thinking of getting a refurbished Gesture but the lumbar gap isn't gonna work for me. I feel stuck between grabbing a Haworth Fern or Zody. Which do you think would be best between the two and I would love to know if you guys have any other suggestions! Please keep up the great work!

  • @CargoShorts7
    @CargoShorts7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys. Been on the hunt for a new work from home office/extended use chair for a bit a nd this is a huge help. Also, what is that standing desk in the back? Looks Sweet!

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed the video! The desk in the video is the New Heights Elegante XT. Check it out on btod.com - RG

  • @AATproducer
    @AATproducer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally made the transistion to a proper Chair with the Gesture since I am in Home office now. I am a bit disapointed about the Seat padding, but since the rest is absolutly amaziing and this part is the easiest to fix with a memory gel cushion, I will keep it

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Be careful with the memory gel cushions, they move you up in the chair and will change how the chair feels -GK

  • @captronsolo8269
    @captronsolo8269 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would have really been great to have each tier listed next to the time stamps.

  • @FelixWalton
    @FelixWalton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what would you choose between the Steelcase Leap and Haworth Zody for at-home use + reclining? Both are about the same price where I live

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would go with the Leap for overall comfort. I like reclining in the Leap, just not rocking back and forth -GK

  • @BIGSLOW.
    @BIGSLOW. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    America has so many options, kinda wish UK had a better time in finding office refurbs that are actually good.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, even here it can be a bit dicey -GK

    • @StardustLegacyFighter
      @StardustLegacyFighter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't even get the same warranties over here lol, Steelcase chairs are 100% not worth buying brand new in the UK atm.

  • @cl114c0777498d
    @cl114c0777498d ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be interested to see you review the Haider Bioswing chairs -- they have a really interesting swinging mechanism on the chair seat. Pretty expensive, but super comfortable. I tried the "Haider Bioswing 360 iQ" specifically, and will probably end up buying it.

  • @ClearAlera
    @ClearAlera ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Long time Gesture user here. It truly is a "get what you pay for" chair. The materials and build quality hold up exceptionally well over time. It's had five years of daily use and there's no torn fabric, the gas cylinder still works perfectly, all the levers and knobs and armrests are still tight and feel like new, nothing squeaks, etc. If you try it and find it comfortable, you won't have to worry about replacing it for thousands and thousands of hours.

    • @naquaman2034
      @naquaman2034 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is so great to read. A friend of mine has one and I thought it was quite comfortable, so I was looking into reviews. After watching this video I decided to pull the trigger on the Gesture over the Amia/Leap because of the adjustable arm rests. Very very excited for it to come in next week.

    • @ClearAlera
      @ClearAlera ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naquaman2034 Wonderful to hear - hope it brings you years of comfort!

  • @christophercastillo242
    @christophercastillo242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had to return the Leap after a day because the seat would give too much fatigue after a couple hours, but the back was lovely. I wish I could try out this Lamia.

  • @frankenstein3163
    @frankenstein3163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it.
    Would your frainkinstin chair be abull to be moded to a standing desk chair ? Ie with a drafting/standing desk chair kit ? Also do you have instructions on how to make it or can any diy'rs do it ? full item name's and or links to the 2 chares ? I have right now to appear to be one of the oldest leaps before it was leap or a knok off. Found on side of rood a few years ago. Way better than aeron that I returned.

  • @flyingsquirrel3271
    @flyingsquirrel3271 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to know what you think about wilkhahn chairs (the "AT" or the "ON"). I think the movement of the backs and seats is really innovative. I tried one out recently in a store and liked it quite a bit but I couldn't try it for entire workdays of course.

  • @STYLEQUEST_TOKYO
    @STYLEQUEST_TOKYO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to know how the Steelcase Series 2 ranks. It would be very helpful!

  • @MattKurkowski
    @MattKurkowski ปีที่แล้ว

    I just went to a used office supply store and they had a leap V2, which I've used before and a Zody. Never heard of the Zody but I liked it. I only took the Leap because it was refurbished and in better shape.

  • @Dragiboom
    @Dragiboom ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thank you for your video, is the lowest chair in the ranking still better than a 50$ Ikea office chair?

  • @tushardhody8609
    @tushardhody8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm thinking about the embody , suits my back perfectly. Im 6"2 tall slightly healthy dude . I didn't notice the shoulders scunching thign thou . Is it very pronounced ? I already have a hunch back that i'm trying get rid off at the gym ? would the embody make it worse ? which other chair woudl recommmned simmilar to the embody without this problem ?

  • @jl5177
    @jl5177 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought I'd be watching videos this long on chairs in my life 😂 I adore gaming at a desk with a nice monitor. Nothing beats it. I injured my back a whilst ago and sitting in a desk chair hurts my back so much 😭 I've gone through quite a few that all set my back off. There's a few I still want to try but my god it's starting to cost me a bloody fortune. You guys got a recommendation for someone who's had a back injury/slipped disk? Would deeply appreciate your view on this 🙏🏼

  • @pecadorD
    @pecadorD ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to you I have narrowed my choice down to: Amia and Leap. Question: which of those two is better for dealing with sciatica in your opinion?

  • @AgentSuccessCoaching
    @AgentSuccessCoaching 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videos and amazing information. Question, since I'm in need of a new chair, where might I be able to see these chairs and actually sit in them? I don't wan't to spend money and time on a chair that doesn't fit my needs. I'm at my desk for at least 6 hours at a time and I need something comfortable and a chair that supports my bad back. I'm in the Dallas area and can't find a store that has most of the chairs you talk about. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  • @RyanSiggaard
    @RyanSiggaard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently looking for a reclining office chair with a foot rest. What can you recommend? Could you review those types of chairs as well?

  • @fireite605
    @fireite605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steelcase leap Owner. I first bought a Secret Lab Titan and that absolutely destroyed my back. I saw a video on the Steelcase Leap v2 and had try it. It was the best decision I ever made. It is my favorite chair I have ever used an recommend it to everyone looking for a chair.

    • @David-rc4rt
      @David-rc4rt ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's the chair after using it for a couple of hours straight?

  • @zrrifle.
    @zrrifle. ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as the CXO 6200D, would it be worth it to pay the extra cost of the 6200 HD if that means longer lasting parts? I'm not a big & tall person, but I see the specs & measurements of the HD are the same as the regular chair, just beefed up arms, lift, etc. So I assume the comfort and feel of the chair is equal to the D?

  • @TechManG
    @TechManG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please sell/make that Lamia chair! Thats end game right there

  • @th3pr01234
    @th3pr01234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you make a video with recommended chairs for tall (not fat) people? Like 6'4 to 6'5 area. So hard to find good reviews.

  • @nickycat101
    @nickycat101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if you did seperate height ratings? Like one set of ratings for short, one for moderate, and one for tall people (or just maybe tall vs not tall).

  • @LordSgtSavy
    @LordSgtSavy ปีที่แล้ว

    hey, I need some help. I have a special use case. I have a very bad back and have to sit reclined constantly as far back as I can and still use a keyboard and mouse. honestly if I could afford it I would get one of those gaming pods. What chair would you advise for me? head rest or tall back is required due to having to be reclined.

  • @SeaUsername
    @SeaUsername ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a mesh chair once and vowed never to get another, they dont offer proper support like a traditional padded back/seat does. In my opinion, mesh chairs are just the current fashion, oh look, its so cool you can see through it.

  • @wilhelmtaylor9863
    @wilhelmtaylor9863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went to Staples for an office chair. I've owned many and they all failed to hold up, cushions went flat, gas springs failed, etc. Sat on a Serta Comfort i5000 and knew without a doubt I needed that chair. Only question was longevity. That was 3 years ago. Chair looks brand new and I work from home, 8+ hours/day. I'm 5'9", 160#, so I don't think I challenge a normal chair. It has nifty little control levers for height and seat back. I don't use them much, though. Never owned a better chair.

  • @lindseyrjacoby
    @lindseyrjacoby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm in the market for a new chair, and I've watched all of your tier videos and many of your other videos. I really enjoy your banter and overall they're excellent reviews. I did have one request- could you make a video for smaller people? I mean you guys are great, but you're all average/large men. I'm a woman clocking in at 5'4" and fairly petite, and I'm far from being the smallest around. My thought is that things like head rests, lumbar support and general fit would be impacted just based on a person's size.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We created a video best for short or petite users. Taylor our designer did the video since she is 5’2” -GK

    • @lindseyrjacoby
      @lindseyrjacoby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@btodtv I can't that, only the 5 tips for petite people.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here you go th-cam.com/video/ae3tLPl1h1g/w-d-xo.html -GK

  • @Mark-ks7fe
    @Mark-ks7fe ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ! Good vid ! I find it pretty useful. How tall are you, guys ?

  • @speedracer9132
    @speedracer9132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Being in south texas, I’m struggling to find an all mesh chair to keep me cool while I’m working. Really hoping one day y’all make a video like this but only for all-mesh chairs

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man, this is a tough crowd for mesh chairs. I only like the backrest in mesh -GK

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're shooting the Herman Miller Mirra 2 Review right now and it made me think about this comment. It is not all mesh, but a mesh seat and poly back which allows for some breathability. - Robert

  • @DaneMurdock
    @DaneMurdock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys need to check out Lifeform chairs. They are probably comparable to the Neutral Posture chairs you guys showed here. I was able to sit in one at a store called Relax the Back and I wanted to make a pact with the devil to afford one. The price is enormous, but they felt worth every penny. They also make a "gaming" version, but really it is just a version that lack the normal custom options at a lower (~$1700 range).

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree we need to take a closer look at that brand. Thanks for sharing your experience-GK

  • @JasonDoege
    @JasonDoege 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The seat of the Secret Lab Titan started really hard but after it’s broke in, it became quite soft.

  • @kuclou
    @kuclou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is S tier

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like that -GK

  • @peachperfume3694
    @peachperfume3694 ปีที่แล้ว

    been using the Sayl for abit & I must say, this is an S-Tier chair for petite people like me (I’m 5‘1). I‘ve been struggling to find the perfect chair, that doesn‘t end wierdly at my neck or way above my head & this is perfection.

  • @exonade
    @exonade ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you guys think about the ergohuman with the fabric seat and mesh back or fabric seat and fabric back?

  • @kingtaj
    @kingtaj ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome. Thank you guys

  • @wind4806
    @wind4806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see how the ErgoCentric chairs compare to these. It is priced $800-1200. Well, it is hard to compare since the parts can be customized.

  • @6slade
    @6slade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I mean Lamia makes sense as an actual word ( Lah - Mee - Uh), which is in folklore as a woman top and snake bottom daemon who devours children. So that’s pretty metal. Otherwise I can’t decide now between the Amia, Leap, and Zody. I think I was finally able to take the Aeron out of my consideration, though a hard one. Thanks for the videos!

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Going deep on this, I had no idea it was a woman top snake chair haha -GK

  • @travisladwig7711
    @travisladwig7711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Random question for you guys, do you have a showroom for potential customers to test out various chairs? You guys are located very close to where I live.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have an office that is filled with chairs, if you want to reach out to our sales team they can definitely help you out -GK

  • @vloneseraph
    @vloneseraph ปีที่แล้ว

    what would you guys recommend to eliminate the lower back pain im experiencing by the secret labs

  • @ImJustStandingHere
    @ImJustStandingHere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first educated chair purchase was an Amia based on all the praise it's gotten on this channel

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And have you received it yet? -GK

  • @ninerknight5351
    @ninerknight5351 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if I buy an amia and a leap v2 I can build the Lamia? Can I also make another lesser chair out of the remaining parts?

  • @KevinCecil
    @KevinCecil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found your channel, I'm addicted! Do you have any videos talking about the LauraDavidson Bowery chair? Would love your feedback on that one.

    • @btodtv
      @btodtv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ryan just shot a first impressions video on it and it will post in the couple weeks. Thanks for following the channel! -GK

    • @KevinCecil
      @KevinCecil ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, can't wait!

  • @joshuabergeron9731
    @joshuabergeron9731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats a good recomendation in the $200-$300 range? I mainly play games but also do some waterjet programing