If this video was helpful to you, you could support met with a Super Thanks or a sub! :) Timestamps: 00:00 Monster Intro 00:28 Overview & Specs 01:58 Megapixels 02:40 Photography and options 03:34 Burst 04:31 Body & Build 05:25 Inputs 06:11 Buttons 07:21 Weather resistance 08:11 Video 09:39 Video crop 10:22 LOG 11:58 LOG video samples 12:59 Workflow 13:28 SD-cards 14:11 Vlogging & Mic test 15:06 Overheating 15:38 Battery (life) 16:17 ISO and noise 16:56 Autofocus
Sony has more number of lenses but for quality Fuji has more to cover the areas from 16 to 140 mm with f/2.8 aperture. Fujifilm is the only brand that covers the same lengths which are equivalent to 24-200 mm on full frame cameras with f 2.8 on aspc cameras.
I went back and forth between these two cameras, they are both really good APS-C options. I did a bunch of my own testing and since I planned to use one of these as my B-cam to do long 4k recordings I did some testing on overheating. In a warm room the A6700 does tend to overheat easier. I tried out both cameras and went with the X-S20, the autofocus misses more than my A7iv and I wish it were weather sealed but I do have a lot of fun with the X-S20. Either would be a good option, I would probably recommend the A6700 if photography is more the use case. One thing that impressed me was I had a few things that annoyed me with the Fuji and I noticed that there was a newer firmware. After updating the firmware a bunch of the issues were fixed. Given Sony is kind of lackluster with the firmware support, that was a little reason to go with the Fuji. Not sure if it was mentioned but the built in flash that the Fuji has (tbf the Sony has the multi interface hotshoe) I actually used the built in Fuji flash to reflect off ice crystals in the air and it made a beautiful picture. Good review, got a sub from me!
@@ironfur9150 Thank you for the sub! The Flash is unique indeed, especially since most cameras don't have this anymore. The overheating might seem less important, until it starts overheating. In that case, it is nice to know you can add the additional fan to the X-S20. Just in case; I have separate reviews on these 2 cameras as well! Where can I see your crystal picture? Which camera do you use most nowadays?
@@mdenjoyer831 Yes, I saw that too. Very much looking forward to subject tracking in video, that's been a pretty big advantage that Sony has had for awhile now.
@ironfur9150 could you give more feedback about your user experience with the X-S20 so far? So far I'm about to buy either the A6700 or the X-S20. The most appealing feauture for the A6700 for me is the weather-sealing and the Autofocus. No doubt I would love not having to worry about moisture, light rain and dust/sand while traveling. On the other hand the most appealing feature for the X-S20 are the film simulations, as most users report the "creativity" it brings out and probably the better lenses of Fuji (especially the XF 70-300 compared to SEL 70-350G). What has changed since the video are the prices. I could go with the kit lense + 70-350 for the A6700 under 2k new (or as good as new lenses) while the X-S20 with the kit lense + 70-300 would be beyond 2.4k in Germany.. The discounts on the A6700 are huge atm and this makes the X-S20 with the lacking weather-sealing not that appealing anymore...
The comparable sony lens to the xf 16-55mm is the sony 16-55 f/2.8 G aps-c lens, not the full-frame 24-70mm GM. With the 16-55 G lens, the total price for both cameras would be basically identical.
May I add one major information ? Thank you... The Sony 16-55 mm f/2.8 G is a diamond ! When I purchased my FX30, the initial idea was to buy the Sigma. And I started my search for camera/lens some 5 months earlier, so time was on my side and I had plenty of it because I already had a good camera, then could have waited some more if needed. When in the shop, there was plenty of choice on the lenses side. I had my computer, with my own images, and my existing camera. With the FX30, I filmed several sequences, inside and outside, snapped several RAW images as well. Had a look on my screen, and decided to go home to take more time. But also to verify what I thought was me having the wrong impressions. Well no... all of the tests I read and watched confirmed it : this Sony mid-range zoom is rated "G" when it should be a "GM", and by a large margin. It is absolutely superb, from edge to edge, from largest to smallest aperture, with all switches and controls, it gets recognized by Sony cameras and works better than 3rd party lenses for this reason. As soon as I finished processing/correcting my first portrait (because it also is a great photographic tool) I stopped and stared at my screen, speechless and stunned. Sigma produced a nice little do-it-all lens, no doubt. Sony created a unique and nearly perfect photographic tool, on par with lenses sold three times its price. Do the test yourself, consider all elements, and you'll see why this "little" zoom is a GMaster in a smaller shell.
Thanks for your great job! I know it was a hassle so thank you! What significantly lacks here is the low light performance comparison. It is one of the main questions for people choosing apsc cameras and it was the least disclosed. No comparison of lowlight in video modes. Also it is a great question whose log has better dynamic range. This question also remains unanswered. Hope you will cover these too. And I'm begging you to compare Sony a6700 with Canon R8. Noone did it, hope you will break this conspiracy. Thank you again and will be waiting for updates from you!
Thank you! For photo, I did an ISO and noise test, which you can see at 16:17. I will release a separate video where I do the same test with video. The dynamic range of both cameras is 14 stops, but you are right, I did not test this by looking at graphs. I tested and reviewed the Canon EOS R8 as well (only written), but for me, it is not a video camera at all. It does have 4K 60fps UHD, but no IBIS. I see it more as a beginner full frame camera for photography, with some video options, which you outgrow quick because of the lack of dials and options. You can read it here: www.cameradealsonline.com/review/canon-eos-r8/
@@cameradeals Tell please your thoughts, how different is the low light performance between Sny a6700 and Canon R8? I understand that one is apsc, another is full frame and the difference should be obvious but how huge is the difference to your opinion? According to your feelings
@harry54ck I think the eos r8 low light performances on photography were quite impressive. It starts struggling with video, though. As it has a full frame sensor it does capture more light tha. The apsc a6700 sensor.
@@cameradeals you said Canon EOS R8 is struggling with video. What do you mean saying it? It struggles in terms of low light performance, overheating, what are the technical issues?
actually the sony has their own sony 16-55 f2.8 which is around 1k USD (amazon us) so you may actually cut off 500 and both would be 2.6k USD. if we talk about sigma 18-50mm, it would save even more cost. sd card depends on user, but definitely worth to get the higher buffer speed.
if only Sony was not sold with kit lenses in my country. that is an additional price to pay on top of that 16-55 f2.8 lense which I think is a must-have for an ASPC camera. only sony and fuji has this lense, canon r7 owners can use previous EF lense and adapter to achieve the same aperture and focal lengths.
An extensive and very informative video, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I wanted to clarify that with the latest update, my XS20 can also track subjects on video and it's great. I am in love, I recommend it without hesitation
@@MrRealtf Yes it is. I film all my TH-cam reviews with the X-S20. Tip: don't use the eye-focus, as it will start hunting. I am using the face recognition. The A6700 has better autofocus and will be great in any mode.
This is not an over exaggeration, for 72 hours I've been on TH-cam nonstop deciding which new hybrid camera to purchase (I shoot fashion editorial work and I want to able to film campaign videos). I've looked everywhere and finally got down to these two. I've been shocked at all the information about fuji film (I currently use canon) and your video has finally helped me choose. Thank you so much for the in depth comparison and the jokes in between for us ADD people (I literally LOL'd at the crop joke). Subbed!
Thank you for your great compliment! I just wished my video would have popped up before you started your 72h journey, as it would've saved you quite some time haha! And thank you for noticing my shitty jokes, motivates me to keep making them xD. So, which camera are you going for?
Thanks for the video! Answered every question I have. Only thing tipping me Sony is weather sealing & AF. How important is weather sealing really? I'd probably not even take out a weather sealed camera in the rain, but it does gets quite dusty where I am. Everything else for me leans towards X-S20 as I want a video camera I can grow into (eventually external 12 bit). I'm also considering a used X-H2s which would have weather sealing but is quite more expensive. I mainly shoot cars, portraits here and there, and sports (AF has let me down). I also want to lean into cinematic style vlogs & travel vidoes. Basically looking for a one size fits all solution. Thanks!
Thank you for your kind words! Looking at what you are looking for, especially the sports part, I might go for the Sony as it has way better and faster autofocus. Personally, I barely take my waterproof cameras out, but I did film a lot in deserts, meaning lots of dust and sand. In that case, you do want a weather sealed camera, so the dust doesn't get in. Might be even worse for your camera than few water drops. If you think you will be in the dust a lot, I would upgrade to a weather sealed camera. Hope this helps :)
@@cameradeals Thanks for the reply! After stopping by a camera store, they had wonderful deals and I went on a special sale day. Felt both bodies in hand, the X-S20's screen although better in resolution, in my opinions feels "cheaper" with thicker bezels, and I couldn't see much of a difference. There were also Sigma and Tamron reps who let me try both the 18-50mm 2.8 and Tamron 17-70 2.8. Ended up trading in X-T30ii, 18-55, xc50-230(don't use), for an A6700, V90 card, sigma 18-50. I really, really wanted the Fuji to be my next move, but logically the A6700 was the better pick for my use case. I'll say your video really helped me out soo much. Of all the reviews I've seen yours was the most comprehensive. I had literally 0 questions for the salesman, I knew the facts and just wanted a feel of different combos. Once again thanks so much!
@@cameradeals Also realized, I can also "grow" into the Sony, and with a direct FF upgrade path as well. Also I don't think I'd ever use 12 bit, feels overkill
Which one would you pick for a first timer owner of a camera? I'll mainly be recording myself playing guitar/bass for covers and all related stuff. I hope these two doesn't overheat because when recording covers, sometimes retakes take a long time! I need my takes to be perfect so I do it again and again. In the future, I'll probably be taking photos of my friends playing in a band. I have the budget for one of these two, so I don't need to go lower tier. Though I'm leaning Fujifilm, just because of the looks lol. Again, I'm clueless about cameras.
Hi! Both of them are great for shooting video. Sony clearly has better autofocus than Fujifilm, though. Overheating will be less likely in lower resolutions, but if you’ll go for the highest bitrates in 4K, it is more likely to happen. Also check which one is in stock, as it might make the choice easier. I think the Fujifilm is easier to use for a first time owner. :)
I ended up going with the A6700. Yes, I already have Sony lenses, but not opposed to switching if it's worth it. The big reason though, is because I could get the A6700, while the X-S20 is nowhere to be found.
Something additional to consider is that a6700 records video with gyro data. This means you have additional option to apply gimbal level stabilization to your video shots which is technically better than a camera's Ibis + eis combo. Often overlooked in comparison, but I do say it is a big factor to me as this feature alone keeps me from buying a gimbal just to shoot fluid and non-jittery motion.
I’m a photographer and I have the Sony a6600. I’m thinking of either switching to full frame Sony A7IV or switching to the Fuji XT-5. I’m attracted to Fuji for its retro aesthetics, its film simulations and its “vintage like” color science. Should I stay Sony or go Fuji?
As we speak, I am working on my X-T5 and A7IV review, where I compare them (among Lumix GH7 and Nikon Z6 III reviews). The X-T5 is a great camera and could be a great replacement for full frame models. The A7IV is a great all-round camera, and you can never go wrong. If you lean strongly on the color science, I would recommend the Fujifilm. Also look into lenses, as full frame lenses are costly.
If the cameras were priced the same, and you could get the lenses for the same price (and quality), I'd pick the Sony A6700. I love slow motion filming and I find myself occasionally in dusty environments, so the weather sealing is important to me. I own the X-S20 as well, and I am in love with the filters. But in all honesty, I am so used to RAW-shooting and editing, that I have difficulties changing to filter shooting. In 2018, I had a fast computer built, but it doesn't keep up with the 360Mb/s files; therefore I need proxies, which is annoying. But hey, that's life (and tech). Which one has your preference?
@@cameradeals the film simulations are also the main factor from the Fuji that interests me atm… but the weather sealing and the a6700 in general is what I’m attracted the most to … so I’m gonna go for the a6700 with the sigma 18-50, which will be my first real camera, so probably more than plenty… I just hope straight out of camera pics are still pretty
@@victorbmadslund The Sigma 18-50mm is the f/2.8 Contemporary right? Good lens choice! And yes, the photos out of camera are very nice indeed! Have fun!
Been using a GX9 since around the time it was released. The current m43 bodies aren't especially attractive to me, since I want relatively small and light for travel/street type use. Recently bought an A6700. Just like the body size and style more than the Fujis. Also bought the Sigma 18-50 and 10-18 f/2.8 lenses which are remarkably small and light. So far I'm happy with my choice. But the choice certainly depends on one's priorities.
Hi! For now I can't, since the brands send me the cameras to test (for free and without directions of what I say about it). I own the x-S20, but not the A6700.
I use a combination of The Preset Factory Luts (loaded in via Lumitri) and Film Convert. Normally, I put both lots on 40/60% or 50/50. I play around with the according to the scene and style.
I use a combination of The Preset Factory Luts (loaded in via Lumitri) and Film Convert. Normally, I put both lots on 40/60% or 50/50. I play around with the according to the scene and style.
I have the X-T50 and the X-S20 here right now, and I'm making a comparison video, which will be out soon! So you could sub in order to receive an update when it's online :)
Yes, a stop or two is good. You could always turn on the Log assist and see how it turns out. Give you a good idea how to expose in the future and in different light circumstances.
@@cameradeals it's fujifilm x-s20, 4k 59 fps 🥺 is this a defect or normal? I have 6 years old camera and it's never overheated... I really don't know what to do
I work on raptors that soars quite high. Until now I have used P950 for its zoom. I want to upgrade to mirrorless to capture birds in flight more effectively. Any suggestions which one of these 2 would be ideal? Really love the colours and higher FPS in fuji but Sony's autofocus is to die for in my field.
I have the Sony A6700 and my primary usage is photography with video second. In outdoor light the it is very good, but in extremely dim light it hunts and I have taken a some photos that were blurred because it was out of focus, and I am also using the orange focusing aid light. This focusing problem also happens in my A6600. I have occasionally taken photos at ISO 100,000. The photo are acceptable.
This issue really depends on the lenses you use and the circumstances. I've used cameras like the Canon EOS R5, Nikon Z8 and Z9 and those will hunt as well at a certain point (when there is not enough light). Normally, I would recommend turning off autofocus if there is not enough light and just focus manually.
Many thanks, your sub is earned! Being a video guy mainly, I got the A6700 in the end. It's annoying cos the Fuji is a nicer body I think and a cooler device all round, but the Sony AF is just voodoo compared to everyone else's. It's kind of frustrating cos I do have a blackmagic recorder and could record BRAW too with Fuji, and plenty of the specs of the XS20 are just better and the image is very nice. But in the end, the main thing over the years that has cost me shots in both video and stills has been AF, and when people view your images they don't see the specs, but they do see if it's in focus or not 🤣 If only Fuji could nail the AF properly I would have gone that way...
there is a problem here. You're comparing image quality using good lens on one side and bad lens on the other side. I switched from Sony A7iii to Fuji X-s20. I can tell you if you want amazing colors to start with or you like filmic looks, then Fuji is no brainer, I wouldnt go any other brand. It is also affordable system with affordable lenses. The only time you wanna go Sony is if you dont care too much about colors or style and you just wanna take a picture of something and move on. Sony is a bit more reliable in terms of focus. Dont get me wrong Fuji also reliable but not the eye AF, you must use single point AF, which feels like a bit behind. Personally I am fine using single point AF and dont need eye AF for photos. So bottom line, you want affordable system with stunning colors, and a bit behind focus system, go fuji. want want reliable system, a bit more expensive, colors are okay but something is off about them, then go Sony you want decent colors, very expensive, and reliable system ? go canon.
Hi, thanks for your reaction and the review of the lens you use. I do disclaim I use a better lens on the Sony, plus the lens I use for the Fujifilm isn't bad lens. It's actually very good lens for its price, f-stop and versatility. Cheers! Also, i say I'm looking at megapixels, not picture quality.
Is Fujifilm good enough for video and photo work? I'm afraid there will be a heating problem. Does it really heat up like the XT4? Because I want to use it in promotional films, events, concerts, model, product photography, etc.
Yes and no. Yes as in quality and options, no in overheating possibilities. The good thing is that you can attach the external fan, which might be a game changer.
@@cameradeals I mean, it's available for work, isn't it, because my budget is enough for it. Actually, I wanted to buy a Sony a7s2, but there is a lot of price difference between them. Xs20 doesn't disappoint in the photo and video works, does it?
@@YunusEmreSevuk I think the X-S20 can get you better video resolution results even. But the A7S-series are almost unbeatable in low-light performance. One of the reasons is because it has huge pixels, but only 12MP. So, for photography you won't get big resolutions.
Fujifilm cameras are extremely hard to get nowadays, XS20 is out of stock or backordered literally everywhere! Availability should also be a key point for effective comparison. Now, I'm stuck whether to buy a6700 or wait for god knows how much longer to get the XS20!
I didn't know the XS20 is on backorder. It also depends where you live, and it could be completely different per country. Where I live, there are plenty. When I compared these cameras, they were in stock in the US and European countries, and I can't look into the future. So, for that point, it's still an effective comparison.
@@cameradeals Thank you for your reply. I am in US at the moment and Fuji XS20, X100VI and even the XT30 II are out of stock everywhere which makes me sad. Probably because of this unavailability I'm going to go with a6700. This is going to be first camera, so I hope I'll have a good experience.
@sneharkaporia547 I've been comparing these 2 and prices, and I don't think I've looked at any retailer where the Fuji was NOT in stock. Maybe some, but just clicking links on the first page of Google, it's in stock. I take that back. Sometimes it shows but it's "backorder" in the fine print. Still, most places it's 2-5 day shipping and I'm stock. Both cameras are currently in my cart at best buy atm
Nicely produced video. 👏 Being stuck to 35mm, though it is my favourite focal length, is a big turn-off for me, but all that’s moot as the camera is made of unobtainium!
Great video. Rotterdam is just so photogenic. One question: I was getting advice in a pro shop today, because I wanted to get the XS-20. He told me that for videography I should for sure take the a6700, because of the WAY better autofocus and WAAAYYY better IBIS. Can you confirm that? I was hoping that the shaky IBIS got fixed with software updates already.
The autofocus of the A6700 is better than on the X-S20, and on the X-S20 I notice it is searching for focus from time to time. I think IBIS performance is more or less the same on both cameras. Now, I am not used to using ibis or autofocus on cameras and therefore think it doesn't really matter. It is good to practice your manual focus pulling. But of course it depends what you use the camera for. If it is for vlogging, the autofocus of the A6700 is better, but the X-S20 has good AF too.
@@josephareyuna8858 Good question. I filmed with both and would choose the A6700 over the R8. Of course, the R8 has a full frame sensor and no crop, but way less options in film. The A6700 has the 4K 120fps option, where the R8 maxes out at 4K 60fps. Quality wise you can get a lot fromr the R8 as well, but the camera in general focusses more on photography. So it really depends. If video is your second hobby, the R8 could be perfect for you, but if you really go for film i'd still choose the A6700, as it has way more options to adjust the video settings to your perfect workflow :)
Since you haven't tested the ibis , can you do a video of the handheld stabilization of the XS20? with a non OIS lens, when walking panning vlogging and all,
Hi! Nowhere in this review I compare these 2 lenses to each other. The only part where I compare, is about photography and megapixels, and I clearly disclaim that it isn't a fair fight. The majority of this review is about the cameras and options itself. It were just the lenses I had available. I hope you enjoyed the rest of the review though, as I spent a lot of time making it.
@@cameradeals My advice to you is to ask for lenses from companies. Fujifilm is a very flexible company in this regard. I can even personally take cameras and lenses for review.
Don't get either one. 6700 overheats and Xs20 has terrible AF. Even a 30 minute non stopmpodcast recording indoors will cause a6700 to overheat it's ridiculous. If you're planning to do any outdoor commercial gigs or weddings etc these cameras will cost you jobs! Don't believe the bs youtubers spew on these channels to cash in on the sponsor money.
Hi. I'm sorry to see you feel so bad about it. 1. It is good to know it costs me more time and money than I make of the channel. Which are literary a few dollars. I am making these reviews because I am passionate about them. No brand sponsors me, pays me or tells me what to say about the cameras. The sponsoring or affiliate links that you do find here, don't even make up for the money I spend on these reviews. 2. I wonder: have you actually tried both cameras for a long time? 3. These cameras are not meant for professional use, where you shoot commercials or weddings. Even then, the X-S20 would work fine as manual focus should be used. In professional work, you never use AF, always manual AF. Losing your job is on you. 4. I own the X-S20 and have used the A6700 a lot. So I know what I'm talking about with these, and other, cameras. 5. Just because you don’t like it, doesn't mean the world around you is telling bs. Not everything is a conspiracy or fake.
How can my experience with the battery be totally false? I also never mentioned the amount of exposures and mostly tested the battery with video, while your post is referring to exposures. 2000 exposures might be correct, I didn't test that and make no claims about it either.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Monster Intro
00:28 Overview & Specs
01:58 Megapixels
02:40 Photography and options
03:34 Burst
04:31 Body & Build
05:25 Inputs
06:11 Buttons
07:21 Weather resistance
08:11 Video
09:39 Video crop
10:22 LOG
11:58 LOG video samples
12:59 Workflow
13:28 SD-cards
14:11 Vlogging & Mic test
15:06 Overheating
15:38 Battery (life)
16:17 ISO and noise
16:56 Autofocus
Sony has more number of lenses but for quality Fuji has more to cover the areas from 16 to 140 mm with f/2.8 aperture. Fujifilm is the only brand that covers the same lengths which are equivalent to 24-200 mm on full frame cameras with f 2.8 on aspc cameras.
Really great comparison! I appreciate the in-depth information on sd cards they require these information aren't immediately and easily available
Thank you for the appreciation! Yeah, the SD card issue with the A6700 bothered me a bit, so I thought it was important to mention :)
I went back and forth between these two cameras, they are both really good APS-C options. I did a bunch of my own testing and since I planned to use one of these as my B-cam to do long 4k recordings I did some testing on overheating. In a warm room the A6700 does tend to overheat easier. I tried out both cameras and went with the X-S20, the autofocus misses more than my A7iv and I wish it were weather sealed but I do have a lot of fun with the X-S20. Either would be a good option, I would probably recommend the A6700 if photography is more the use case.
One thing that impressed me was I had a few things that annoyed me with the Fuji and I noticed that there was a newer firmware. After updating the firmware a bunch of the issues were fixed. Given Sony is kind of lackluster with the firmware support, that was a little reason to go with the Fuji.
Not sure if it was mentioned but the built in flash that the Fuji has (tbf the Sony has the multi interface hotshoe) I actually used the built in Fuji flash to reflect off ice crystals in the air and it made a beautiful picture.
Good review, got a sub from me!
Ah nevermind, you did mention the X-S20 has a built in flash.
@@ironfur9150 Thank you for the sub! The Flash is unique indeed, especially since most cameras don't have this anymore. The overheating might seem less important, until it starts overheating. In that case, it is nice to know you can add the additional fan to the X-S20. Just in case; I have separate reviews on these 2 cameras as well! Where can I see your crystal picture? Which camera do you use most nowadays?
fujifilm announced that a big autofocus update is coming for the XS20 and more cameras in spring 2024
@@mdenjoyer831 Yes, I saw that too. Very much looking forward to subject tracking in video, that's been a pretty big advantage that Sony has had for awhile now.
@ironfur9150 could you give more feedback about your user experience with the X-S20 so far?
So far I'm about to buy either the A6700 or the X-S20. The most appealing feauture for the A6700 for me is the weather-sealing and the Autofocus. No doubt I would love not having to worry about moisture, light rain and dust/sand while traveling. On the other hand the most appealing feature for the X-S20 are the film simulations, as most users report the "creativity" it brings out and probably the better lenses of Fuji (especially the XF 70-300 compared to SEL 70-350G).
What has changed since the video are the prices. I could go with the kit lense + 70-350 for the A6700 under 2k new (or as good as new lenses) while the X-S20 with the kit lense + 70-300 would be beyond 2.4k in Germany.. The discounts on the A6700 are huge atm and this makes the X-S20 with the lacking weather-sealing not that appealing anymore...
The comparable sony lens to the xf 16-55mm is the sony 16-55 f/2.8 G aps-c lens, not the full-frame 24-70mm GM. With the 16-55 G lens, the total price for both cameras would be basically identical.
Yeah that would've been a better comparison, lens wise. Still the Sony lens is $100 pricier, where the body is too. So it adds up in the end.
16 50 2.8 Sigma
Much cheaper with equivalent quality
May I add one major information ? Thank you...
The Sony 16-55 mm f/2.8 G is a diamond !
When I purchased my FX30, the initial idea was to buy the Sigma. And I started my search for camera/lens some 5 months earlier, so time was on my side and I had plenty of it because I already had a good camera, then could have waited some more if needed.
When in the shop, there was plenty of choice on the lenses side.
I had my computer, with my own images, and my existing camera.
With the FX30, I filmed several sequences, inside and outside, snapped several RAW images as well.
Had a look on my screen, and decided to go home to take more time. But also to verify what I thought was me having the wrong impressions.
Well no... all of the tests I read and watched confirmed it : this Sony mid-range zoom is rated "G" when it should be a "GM", and by a large margin. It is absolutely superb, from edge to edge, from largest to smallest aperture, with all switches and controls, it gets recognized by Sony cameras and works better than 3rd party lenses for this reason.
As soon as I finished processing/correcting my first portrait (because it also is a great photographic tool) I stopped and stared at my screen, speechless and stunned.
Sigma produced a nice little do-it-all lens, no doubt. Sony created a unique and nearly perfect photographic tool, on par with lenses sold three times its price.
Do the test yourself, consider all elements, and you'll see why this "little" zoom is a GMaster in a smaller shell.
@@gillesmatheronprosuper helpful! I’ve been tempted to switch to the 16-55mm. My only reservations are price and that I wish it had an aperture ring.
Great video. Lots of information. I know this took you a while so I appreciate your hard work.
Thank you for the recognition, and I'm happy to hear it helped! :)
Excellent video, helped me cement my decision to get the X-S20. Very informative and clear you put a lot of effort into this. Subscribed.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the sub!
Thanks for the comparison. The difference in focus acquisition at 14:40 sealed the deal for me.
I am very happy to hear it helped you decide!
This is the best comparison video of this lot in the internet. Period.
Thank you for your kind comment!
Thanks for your great job! I know it was a hassle so thank you! What significantly lacks here is the low light performance comparison. It is one of the main questions for people choosing apsc cameras and it was the least disclosed. No comparison of lowlight in video modes. Also it is a great question whose log has better dynamic range. This question also remains unanswered. Hope you will cover these too. And I'm begging you to compare Sony a6700 with Canon R8. Noone did it, hope you will break this conspiracy. Thank you again and will be waiting for updates from you!
Thank you! For photo, I did an ISO and noise test, which you can see at 16:17. I will release a separate video where I do the same test with video. The dynamic range of both cameras is 14 stops, but you are right, I did not test this by looking at graphs.
I tested and reviewed the Canon EOS R8 as well (only written), but for me, it is not a video camera at all. It does have 4K 60fps UHD, but no IBIS. I see it more as a beginner full frame camera for photography, with some video options, which you outgrow quick because of the lack of dials and options. You can read it here: www.cameradealsonline.com/review/canon-eos-r8/
@@cameradeals Tell please your thoughts, how different is the low light performance between Sny a6700 and Canon R8? I understand that one is apsc, another is full frame and the difference should be obvious but how huge is the difference to your opinion? According to your feelings
@harry54ck I think the eos r8 low light performances on photography were quite impressive. It starts struggling with video, though. As it has a full frame sensor it does capture more light tha. The apsc a6700 sensor.
@@cameradeals you said Canon EOS R8 is struggling with video. What do you mean saying it? It struggles in terms of low light performance, overheating, what are the technical issues?
actually the sony has their own sony 16-55 f2.8 which is around 1k USD (amazon us) so you may actually cut off 500 and both would be 2.6k USD.
if we talk about sigma 18-50mm, it would save even more cost.
sd card depends on user, but definitely worth to get the higher buffer speed.
if only Sony was not sold with kit lenses in my country. that is an additional price to pay on top of that 16-55 f2.8 lense which I think is a must-have for an ASPC camera. only sony and fuji has this lense, canon r7 owners can use previous EF lense and adapter to achieve the same aperture and focal lengths.
@@zaporoshti3392 sigma 18 50 now support canon rfs
Good one!
An extensive and very informative video, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I wanted to clarify that with the latest update, my XS20 can also track subjects on video and it's great. I am in love, I recommend it without hesitation
Thank you so much! That is a very important update indeed! Thanks for sharing :)
Will it be good for a TH-cam content creation camera?
@@MrRealtf Yes it is. I film all my TH-cam reviews with the X-S20. Tip: don't use the eye-focus, as it will start hunting. I am using the face recognition. The A6700 has better autofocus and will be great in any mode.
This is not an over exaggeration, for 72 hours I've been on TH-cam nonstop deciding which new hybrid camera to purchase (I shoot fashion editorial work and I want to able to film campaign videos). I've looked everywhere and finally got down to these two. I've been shocked at all the information about fuji film (I currently use canon) and your video has finally helped me choose. Thank you so much for the in depth comparison and the jokes in between for us ADD people (I literally LOL'd at the crop joke). Subbed!
Thank you for your great compliment! I just wished my video would have popped up before you started your 72h journey, as it would've saved you quite some time haha! And thank you for noticing my shitty jokes, motivates me to keep making them xD. So, which camera are you going for?
So just curious did you choose XS20?
Which camera did you end up purchasing?
@@deepanshurai4863 I sincerely hope he bought the Fuji
Hope he answers anytime soon
Thanks for the video! Answered every question I have. Only thing tipping me Sony is weather sealing & AF. How important is weather sealing really? I'd probably not even take out a weather sealed camera in the rain, but it does gets quite dusty where I am.
Everything else for me leans towards X-S20 as I want a video camera I can grow into (eventually external 12 bit). I'm also considering a used X-H2s which would have weather sealing but is quite more expensive. I mainly shoot cars, portraits here and there, and sports (AF has let me down). I also want to lean into cinematic style vlogs & travel vidoes. Basically looking for a one size fits all solution. Thanks!
Thank you for your kind words! Looking at what you are looking for, especially the sports part, I might go for the Sony as it has way better and faster autofocus. Personally, I barely take my waterproof cameras out, but I did film a lot in deserts, meaning lots of dust and sand. In that case, you do want a weather sealed camera, so the dust doesn't get in. Might be even worse for your camera than few water drops. If you think you will be in the dust a lot, I would upgrade to a weather sealed camera. Hope this helps :)
@@cameradeals Thanks for the reply!
After stopping by a camera store, they had wonderful deals and I went on a special sale day. Felt both bodies in hand, the X-S20's screen although better in resolution, in my opinions feels "cheaper" with thicker bezels, and I couldn't see much of a difference. There were also Sigma and Tamron reps who let me try both the 18-50mm 2.8 and Tamron 17-70 2.8. Ended up trading in X-T30ii, 18-55, xc50-230(don't use), for an A6700, V90 card, sigma 18-50.
I really, really wanted the Fuji to be my next move, but logically the A6700 was the better pick for my use case. I'll say your video really helped me out soo much. Of all the reviews I've seen yours was the most comprehensive. I had literally 0 questions for the salesman, I knew the facts and just wanted a feel of different combos. Once again thanks so much!
@@cameradeals Also realized, I can also "grow" into the Sony, and with a direct FF upgrade path as well. Also I don't think I'd ever use 12 bit, feels overkill
Which one would you pick for a first timer owner of a camera? I'll mainly be recording myself playing guitar/bass for covers and all related stuff. I hope these two doesn't overheat because when recording covers, sometimes retakes take a long time! I need my takes to be perfect so I do it again and again.
In the future, I'll probably be taking photos of my friends playing in a band. I have the budget for one of these two, so I don't need to go lower tier.
Though I'm leaning Fujifilm, just because of the looks lol. Again, I'm clueless about cameras.
Hi! Both of them are great for shooting video. Sony clearly has better autofocus than Fujifilm, though. Overheating will be less likely in lower resolutions, but if you’ll go for the highest bitrates in 4K, it is more likely to happen. Also check which one is in stock, as it might make the choice easier. I think the Fujifilm is easier to use for a first time owner. :)
I ended up going with the A6700. Yes, I already have Sony lenses, but not opposed to switching if it's worth it. The big reason though, is because I could get the A6700, while the X-S20 is nowhere to be found.
Yeah, it's so weird the X-S20 is sold out everywhere. It does make the choice a bit easier though :)
There’s a reason for that. The Fuji is magical.
Something additional to consider is that a6700 records video with gyro data. This means you have additional option to apply gimbal level stabilization to your video shots which is technically better than a camera's Ibis + eis combo.
Often overlooked in comparison, but I do say it is a big factor to me as this feature alone keeps me from buying a gimbal just to shoot fluid and non-jittery motion.
Good one!
Very good and complete information!!!
Thank you very much! I hope it helped!
I’m a photographer and I have the Sony a6600. I’m thinking of either switching to full frame Sony A7IV or switching to the Fuji XT-5. I’m attracted to Fuji for its retro aesthetics, its film simulations and its “vintage like” color science. Should I stay Sony or go Fuji?
As we speak, I am working on my X-T5 and A7IV review, where I compare them (among Lumix GH7 and Nikon Z6 III reviews). The X-T5 is a great camera and could be a great replacement for full frame models. The A7IV is a great all-round camera, and you can never go wrong. If you lean strongly on the color science, I would recommend the Fujifilm. Also look into lenses, as full frame lenses are costly.
The LCD of the x-s20 has 1.84m dots vs 1.04m dots on the a6700.
You are right, sir! I must have forgotten to change the stats when I was copying the text. Well spotted!
Also pretty sure the Sony has less than a 1x magnification for the EVF (like 0.7x or smth)
1.07x
@@cameradeals yes but the 35mm equivalent is 0.71x for the a6700, the x-s20 has a 0.93x magnification or 0.62x 35mm equivalent
if i was to consider a camera body of a similar price to these but geared more towards photography, what would you recommend?
You could look into the Fujifilm X-T50 (my review of it will be out soon! )
Super well done and extensive comparison, ty for this! Very helpful
Thank you so much! I am happy to hear it was helpful!
So what would you pick?
If the cameras were priced the same, and you could get the lenses for the same price (and quality), I'd pick the Sony A6700. I love slow motion filming and I find myself occasionally in dusty environments, so the weather sealing is important to me. I own the X-S20 as well, and I am in love with the filters. But in all honesty, I am so used to RAW-shooting and editing, that I have difficulties changing to filter shooting. In 2018, I had a fast computer built, but it doesn't keep up with the 360Mb/s files; therefore I need proxies, which is annoying. But hey, that's life (and tech). Which one has your preference?
@@cameradeals the film simulations are also the main factor from the Fuji that interests me atm… but the weather sealing and the a6700 in general is what I’m attracted the most to … so I’m gonna go for the a6700 with the sigma 18-50, which will be my first real camera, so probably more than plenty… I just hope straight out of camera pics are still pretty
@@victorbmadslund The Sigma 18-50mm is the f/2.8 Contemporary right? Good lens choice! And yes, the photos out of camera are very nice indeed! Have fun!
@@cameradeals yes exactly! Thank you 🙏
Been using a GX9 since around the time it was released. The current m43 bodies aren't especially attractive to me, since I want relatively small and light for travel/street type use. Recently bought an A6700. Just like the body size and style more than the Fujis. Also bought the Sigma 18-50 and 10-18 f/2.8 lenses which are remarkably small and light. So far I'm happy with my choice. But the choice certainly depends on one's priorities.
van you make a handheld stabilization comparaison of these 2 camera, compare with ibis, without ibis and with gyro data and processed after thanks
Hi! For now I can't, since the brands send me the cameras to test (for free and without directions of what I say about it). I own the x-S20, but not the A6700.
which LUT did you use for the grading? It looks so good
I use a combination of The Preset Factory Luts (loaded in via Lumitri) and Film Convert. Normally, I put both lots on 40/60% or 50/50. I play around with the according to the scene and style.
@cameradeals which one is better for casual photography? Travel ?. Nothing professional ! Thanks and regards :)
From these two in the video, I would say the X-S20 for Photography. You could also look into the new Xt50.
Hello, Can you tell me which LUT did you use for grading the Log Profiles. I have been looking for this kind of looks.
I use a combination of The Preset Factory Luts (loaded in via Lumitri) and Film Convert. Normally, I put both lots on 40/60% or 50/50. I play around with the according to the scene and style.
@@cameradeals Thank you
best VS video ever seen with this two cameras ! thank you
Glad you liked it!
I am doubting between xs20 and xt50. What should I choose......
I have the X-T50 and the X-S20 here right now, and I'm making a comparison video, which will be out soon! So you could sub in order to receive an update when it's online :)
@cameradeals nice sub method! But yes, I can't wait for that video.
@@XraySuper haha, I would only ask for that sub if I'd actually be working on something new. Which I am! 😀
A sony
Did you manage to collect any footage in Malawi, could you share the link. I would like to watch the video.
Yes, you can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/i6mHCPhjshM/w-d-xo.html (Shot on GH5s)
HI MATE, LOVE THIS TEST, WOULD YOU RECOMMEND TO OVER EXPOSE FLOG 2 LIKE WE NORMALLY DO WITH SLOG3?
Yes, a stop or two is good. You could always turn on the Log assist and see how it turns out. Give you a good idea how to expose in the future and in different light circumstances.
Hello! Thank you for the video! What about overheating? I have a problems with it? Is that a normal to overheat in 12 min in room temp 24C? :(
Aah that is too bad! With which camera? And which settings does it overheat that fast?
@@cameradeals it's fujifilm x-s20, 4k 59 fps 🥺 is this a defect or normal? I have 6 years old camera and it's never overheated... I really don't know what to do
@lumenone1698 when you film in 4k 60fps, do you turn the fan into boost mode?
Is the placed in a cage?
I work on raptors that soars quite high. Until now I have used P950 for its zoom. I want to upgrade to mirrorless to capture birds in flight more effectively. Any suggestions which one of these 2 would be ideal? Really love the colours and higher FPS in fuji but Sony's autofocus is to die for in my field.
Looking at what you need it for, I'd recommend the A6700 as the AF is just way better :)
How about Dynamic Range on photo and videos in lowlight and highlight?
Good one. I should make another video about that.
I have the Sony A6700 and my primary usage is photography with video second. In outdoor light the it is very good, but in extremely dim light it hunts and I have taken a some photos that were blurred because it was out of focus, and I am also using the orange focusing aid light. This focusing problem also happens in my A6600. I have occasionally taken photos at ISO 100,000. The photo are acceptable.
This issue really depends on the lenses you use and the circumstances. I've used cameras like the Canon EOS R5, Nikon Z8 and Z9 and those will hunt as well at a certain point (when there is not enough light). Normally, I would recommend turning off autofocus if there is not enough light and just focus manually.
It is possible to use eterna with Flog 2, just apply Fujifilm conversion lut
Let me try that. Thank you
I have Sony lenses. I’ll buy the a6700. In similar manner, Fuji users go for the Fuji.
Yeah that makes sense
Many thanks, your sub is earned! Being a video guy mainly, I got the A6700 in the end. It's annoying cos the Fuji is a nicer body I think and a cooler device all round, but the Sony AF is just voodoo compared to everyone else's.
It's kind of frustrating cos I do have a blackmagic recorder and could record BRAW too with Fuji, and plenty of the specs of the XS20 are just better and the image is very nice. But in the end, the main thing over the years that has cost me shots in both video and stills has been AF, and when people view your images they don't see the specs, but they do see if it's in focus or not 🤣
If only Fuji could nail the AF properly I would have gone that way...
Your choice and reasons make sense!
@@cameradeals It is kinda frustrating cos the Fuji has a bit more soul. If I didn't need the AF for work I'd have gone Fuji tbh .
They are making updates and putting ai into it. Lets see how all this unfolds…
Fujifilm the best
It seems you've forgotten the most important part: "Video low light comparison". But, great review!!
It is true I didn't make shots outside in lowlight, I did do an ISO test at 16:17
@@cameradeals Ok! Great! Thank🙏🏽
I think i will still choose a6700 for vlogging. Is it right decision?
Both are great for it. What are your reasons for choosing the A6700?
good fuji have shit af for video
there is a problem here. You're comparing image quality using good lens on one side and bad lens on the other side. I switched from Sony A7iii to Fuji X-s20. I can tell you if you want amazing colors to start with or you like filmic looks, then Fuji is no brainer, I wouldnt go any other brand. It is also affordable system with affordable lenses.
The only time you wanna go Sony is if you dont care too much about colors or style and you just wanna take a picture of something and move on. Sony is a bit more reliable in terms of focus. Dont get me wrong Fuji also reliable but not the eye AF, you must use single point AF, which feels like a bit behind. Personally I am fine using single point AF and dont need eye AF for photos.
So bottom line, you want affordable system with stunning colors, and a bit behind focus system, go fuji.
want want reliable system, a bit more expensive, colors are okay but something is off about them, then go Sony
you want decent colors, very expensive, and reliable system ? go canon.
Hi, thanks for your reaction and the review of the lens you use. I do disclaim I use a better lens on the Sony, plus the lens I use for the Fujifilm isn't bad lens. It's actually very good lens for its price, f-stop and versatility. Cheers! Also, i say I'm looking at megapixels, not picture quality.
Is Fujifilm good enough for video and photo work? I'm afraid there will be a heating problem. Does it really heat up like the XT4? Because I want to use it in promotional films, events, concerts, model, product photography, etc.
Yes and no. Yes as in quality and options, no in overheating possibilities. The good thing is that you can attach the external fan, which might be a game changer.
@@cameradeals I mean, it's available for work, isn't it, because my budget is enough for it. Actually, I wanted to buy a Sony a7s2, but there is a lot of price difference between them. Xs20 doesn't disappoint in the photo and video works, does it?
@YunusEmreSevuk Yeah definitely! The upside of the A7sii is the fact it is full frame and might deliver better quality in low light.
@@cameradeals Yes, it is true, but can similar photo-videography works be done with Fuji?
@@YunusEmreSevuk I think the X-S20 can get you better video resolution results even. But the A7S-series are almost unbeatable in low-light performance. One of the reasons is because it has huge pixels, but only 12MP. So, for photography you won't get big resolutions.
Fujifilm cameras are extremely hard to get nowadays, XS20 is out of stock or backordered literally everywhere! Availability should also be a key point for effective comparison. Now, I'm stuck whether to buy a6700 or wait for god knows how much longer to get the XS20!
I didn't know the XS20 is on backorder. It also depends where you live, and it could be completely different per country. Where I live, there are plenty. When I compared these cameras, they were in stock in the US and European countries, and I can't look into the future. So, for that point, it's still an effective comparison.
@@cameradeals Thank you for your reply. I am in US at the moment and Fuji XS20, X100VI and even the XT30 II are out of stock everywhere which makes me sad. Probably because of this unavailability I'm going to go with a6700. This is going to be first camera, so I hope I'll have a good experience.
The A6700 is a great camera as well. The XT50 just got released as well. Will do a review on it as soon as I get a review model ;)
@sneharkaporia547 I've been comparing these 2 and prices, and I don't think I've looked at any retailer where the Fuji was NOT in stock. Maybe some, but just clicking links on the first page of Google, it's in stock.
I take that back. Sometimes it shows but it's "backorder" in the fine print. Still, most places it's 2-5 day shipping and I'm stock. Both cameras are currently in my cart at best buy atm
@@brennanIX Just tell me one website where XS20 with 15-45 is in stock
I would love to see a video on low light performance. Photo, video, etc
I just did the ISO tests. :)
Nicely produced video. 👏 Being stuck to 35mm, though it is my favourite focal length, is a big turn-off for me, but all that’s moot as the camera is made of unobtainium!
Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Rotterdam is just so photogenic.
One question: I was getting advice in a pro shop today, because I wanted to get the XS-20.
He told me that for videography I should for sure take the a6700, because of the WAY better autofocus and WAAAYYY better IBIS.
Can you confirm that? I was hoping that the shaky IBIS got fixed with software updates already.
The autofocus of the A6700 is better than on the X-S20, and on the X-S20 I notice it is searching for focus from time to time. I think IBIS performance is more or less the same on both cameras. Now, I am not used to using ibis or autofocus on cameras and therefore think it doesn't really matter. It is good to practice your manual focus pulling. But of course it depends what you use the camera for. If it is for vlogging, the autofocus of the A6700 is better, but the X-S20 has good AF too.
2:33 i guess the fujifilm sensor quite dirty with smudge of oil
I treat my sensors with hamburger grease. 🍔
great video!
Thanks!
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
I traded in my XS-20 w/ SIGMA 18-50 for an A6700 w/ SIGMA 18-50..
Did i make the wrong choice? My heart says yes but my brain/logic says no.
I think both cameras are great, and it really depends on why you traded them and what you want to use it for.
A6700 VS CANON R8 for video?
I probably won't do that comparison 😕
@@cameradeals But based on your experience, which one is better?
@@josephareyuna8858 Good question. I filmed with both and would choose the A6700 over the R8. Of course, the R8 has a full frame sensor and no crop, but way less options in film. The A6700 has the 4K 120fps option, where the R8 maxes out at 4K 60fps. Quality wise you can get a lot fromr the R8 as well, but the camera in general focusses more on photography. So it really depends. If video is your second hobby, the R8 could be perfect for you, but if you really go for film i'd still choose the A6700, as it has way more options to adjust the video settings to your perfect workflow :)
@@cameradeals spectacular!! Thank you very much for your humility!! you gained a subscriber
@@josephareyuna8858 I am very happy to hear that! Please let me know if you have more questions:)
Thank You
You are very welcome, thank you for watching!
Since you haven't tested the ibis , can you do a video of the handheld stabilization of the XS20? with a non OIS lens, when walking panning vlogging and all,
No. :)
What's the point of comparing a prime lens and a variable focal length lens?
Hi! Nowhere in this review I compare these 2 lenses to each other. The only part where I compare, is about photography and megapixels, and I clearly disclaim that it isn't a fair fight. The majority of this review is about the cameras and options itself. It were just the lenses I had available. I hope you enjoyed the rest of the review though, as I spent a lot of time making it.
@@cameradeals My advice to you is to ask for lenses from companies. Fujifilm is a very flexible company in this regard. I can even personally take cameras and lenses for review.
Xs-20 vs a7iii?
I don't have the a7iii
thanks
You are welcome!
I think the X-S20 have automatic subject recognition....but only in auto mode!
I've never used the auto mode and were able to use it as well :)
Of course the XS20
What made you pick that one?
if you dont use af pick xs20 :D
I think you forgot to mention trains man
Oh no! how could i've missed that one!? xD
@@cameradeals 😂😂
Full
Good!
Don't get either one. 6700 overheats and Xs20 has terrible AF. Even a 30 minute non stopmpodcast recording indoors will cause a6700 to overheat it's ridiculous. If you're planning to do any outdoor commercial gigs or weddings etc these cameras will cost you jobs! Don't believe the bs youtubers spew on these channels to cash in on the sponsor money.
Hi. I'm sorry to see you feel so bad about it.
1. It is good to know it costs me more time and money than I make of the channel. Which are literary a few dollars. I am making these reviews because I am passionate about them. No brand sponsors me, pays me or tells me what to say about the cameras. The sponsoring or affiliate links that you do find here, don't even make up for the money I spend on these reviews.
2. I wonder: have you actually tried both cameras for a long time?
3. These cameras are not meant for professional use, where you shoot commercials or weddings. Even then, the X-S20 would work fine as manual focus should be used. In professional work, you never use AF, always manual AF. Losing your job is on you.
4. I own the X-S20 and have used the A6700 a lot. So I know what I'm talking about with these, and other, cameras.
5. Just because you don’t like it, doesn't mean the world around you is telling bs. Not everything is a conspiracy or fake.
The battery life info is totally false. A6700 lasts close to 2000 exposures for me.
How can my experience with the battery be totally false? I also never mentioned the amount of exposures and mostly tested the battery with video, while your post is referring to exposures. 2000 exposures might be correct, I didn't test that and make no claims about it either.
there's no such thing as "Jpeg lossless"
Hi! Could you point out the timestamp where I say this? I'm not able to find it. Thanks