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- These Cameras RULE - Which Is Better for Video?
***I forgot to mention that in the overheating tests, I turned OFF autofocus. I imagine that if you are using continuous AF, the cameras will overheat faster
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Chapter Markers
00:00 Intro
01:11 Stability
02:15 Rolling shutter
02:41 Overheating & battery life
04:52 Autofocus
07:39 Vlog & content creator features
10:19 Image quality, resolutions, frame rates, etc.
14:14 So... which one is better? - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
***I forgot to mention that in the overheating tests, I turned OFF autofocus. I imagine that if you are using continuous AF, the cameras will overheat faster
Exactly the video I was looking for! Thank you
I am blown away by the quality of the Fujifilm xs20. The video is exceptional and the colors are fantastic. The only thing I miss is a D pad on the back of the camera. If you buy the xs20 you will not be disappointed.
Yeah, I love the image. If I weren't so heavily invested in Sony lenses, I'd be tempted to make the switch (I'd probably go for the X-H2S)
@@PhillipRPeck Funny you should say that because I just spent the day putting all my Sony gear back in their boxes. An a7siii and 6 lenses. I'm selling everything and staying with Fuji. The truth is that I have this incredible feeling when I pick up this little sx20 to go out and be creative. Not saying the a7siii wasn't a good camera but Sony just doesn't inspire me. I'm a retired wedding videographer, so my goals have shifted.
Fuji decided to get rid of d-pad in favor of a joystick
Very interesting! If the camera needs 1.5h to overheat it could be possible preventing the overheating by opening the screen and adding a metal top handle to the camera for better cooling.
Coming from a Fuji X-S10 shooter, if I were to start over and invest new money into photography, I’d go with the Sony. That autofocus is just something else.
When you’re an enthusiast, the more “I don’t have to think about this aspect” is a big advantage. Nailing focus, tracking subjects, etc is a confident action on the Sony’s. With Fuji, I am always focusing, refocusing, and checking images for focus
REALLY NICE VIDEO--great comparisons!!! There are negligible differences between the major camera brands. For 10 years I've been shooting with the Sony A6---series cameras, and recently bought the A6700. Why this camera for me? I love the small size, sleek ergonomics, lightweight, and image quality of the a6700. I can fit the camera body and 4 lenses that go from 11mm to 525mm (full frame equivalent) in a SMALL tiny sling bag. Yes, ALL of this equipment! Most camera brands will produce equivalent high-quality images. Ultimately, it's personal preference.
I got the xs20 and i swear if fujifi could just somehow copy what Panasonic did in their new focus system into the new cams like the xh2's and xs20, it'd be almost perfect IMO.
I didn't find the AF to be much worse or better than the S5II's. All in all, they seem pretty similar. They're quick. They identify subjects. But they're not confident and sticky like the Sony system
Man, my heart wants the Fuji, but that Sony stabilization…. Ooof.
Did you decide on one? Currently debating between both for my first hybrid camera and can’t decide. The Sony looks amazing but there’s just something about fuji lol
@@ciaran.laverty Have you decided yet? Because I am in the same situation and completely agree, the a6700 specs are insane especially with stabilizaton, weather sealing and being able to import LUTs but the fujifilm can shoot 6.2k and those colours are something else.
@@tobiasbekkerstrugg5159 nope still trying to decide, I’m actually considering buying a used Sony a7iii to get started in FF, another twist lol so hard to pick. I had hands on, a6700 feels very good, so does xs20 (smaller than I thought) but I’m ruling out xs20 as I need weather sealing
@@tobiasbekkerstrugg5159 no decision yet! I have ruled out the xs20 though as I need weather sealing (always rainy here in ireland). But I have now been tempted by older generation full frame (Sony a7iii) but I haven't decided anything yet lol its a tough decision to make. If I had unlimited money I would buy a sony and a fuji lol :(
The stabilization is only better with the electronic stabilization on. Pure IBIS, Fuji wins. I would go for the Fuji in this category, since I can do electronic stabilization in DaVinci Resolve for free and it works wonders. And guess what, Fuji has 6.2k video, so you can make a stabilized 4k video no problem.
This was an awesome comparison! just curious about the high framerate modes as I like to shoot lots of skiing and mountain biking which getting the occasional 10x slow mo is really nice to use. i know the xs20 has 240fps at HD but does the a6700 have that aswell?
Thank you! Yes, the a6700 has HD 240 as well. I haven't ever really messed with it too much as it's just too slow for anything that I film
@@PhillipRPeck awsome! that is good to know, thank you!
Hi thanks for the great review, but something that i believe is quite unique to my use case and not often compared is the low light effective ISO performance. Or in other words how does the 2 compare when filming videos in tough lighting condition (low-light situations like an event)?
Yeah, I dropped the ball on that one and didn't get around to testing out the low light. I don't want to guess so hopefully you can find some other comparisons that will help you with that scenario.
fuji's xtrans eats iso , so sony's gonna win that one unfortunately
Nice review! Wish you would add some side by side video with pixelpeeping its quality, because saw a review where fujifilm footage was way sharper than sony.
For sony advantages I would add also 4k/120 in 10 bit, for me was main selling point, shooting in that mode for 90% of time :D
Thank you. It would be fun to do some pixel peeping. I think Fujifilm X-Trans sensors tend to be sharper than other sensor designs so I wouldn't be surprised if the X-S20 is sharper. Also, its ability to turn off or turn down noise reduction should result in a sharper image, especially in under exposed areas in comparison to the a6700.
The 4K120 of the a6700 is a definite advantage not to mention the fact that it doesn't have an additional crop in 4K60 like the X-S20 does.
Thanks for the review. You constantly talk about the advantage of the xs-20, that this camera has an open gate ability to shoot video from the entire sensor. But it is not entirely clear what this advantage looks like physically. What does this look like in an example? Video shot with and without open gate. ?
Sorry I didn’t make this clear. The clips with black bars on the side are open gate. Aside from the 6.2K resolution, it provides a taller aspect ratio. In cinema cameras, open gate is used to pair with anamorphic lenses. For content creators, it’s useful because it allows for a 16:9 widescreen crop and a 9:16 vertical crop without losing much resolution
@@PhillipRPeck Thank you. You explained everything very competently.
The active stabilisation on the Sony looks pretty good!
Yeah they’ve come a long way
@PhillipRPeck whats a good no compromise alternative? Should I save more for Sony A7 IV. I am hybrid shooter. My use case sunset/sunrise, raves (concerts) , nature , photo and vlogging.
I don't love the a7IV for video, unless you really want full frame (bad rolling shutter, worse IBIS than a6700, overheating potential) and that Sony autofocus. If you can stretch to around $2500, I'd be looking at the Fujifilm X-H2S. Super fast sensor. 6K open gate. All the features I gushed over in this video regarding the X-S20, but just better. If you really want full frame, I'd seriously consider the Panasonic S5II or S5IIX. They have the video-first features that the Fujifilm cameras have (open gate, 6K, etc., plus a few more like shutter angle) plus a fan so overheating shouldn't be an issue ever.
@@PhillipRPeck thanks for answering! Thoughts on a7c mark2? Does extra 2 stops over 5 stops help??? Secondly i need to buy gimble even with ibis?
I haven't paid much attention to the a7CII so I don't have much insight. It might be a bit dicey on the video side due to its small size so overheating could be an issue but I can't say for sure.
IBIS is no replacement for a gimbal. It's a very different look. IBIS is sill handheld where you can see the camera bouncing. A heavy-handed IBIS also looks fake IMO; you can see the sensor straining against the direction of the camera.
A gimbal gives the image a completely stable look like the camera is floating or gliding through space. The horizon stays level.
But you have less direct control of the camera with a gimbal. You have to anticipate the action whereas the connection between the camera and the operator is much more immediate when it's handheld.
For fuji is important to turn off or at least significally lower the NR and sharpness (both -4 or at least -3).
If the best autofocus is super important to you tough to beat Sony, I tried a few Fujis, fun to use just not as reliable in as many situations
Confused between a6700 & sx20. The only downside I feel sx20 has is the lack of weather sealing.
So how bad can a camera be without weather sealing?
I never really put my gear to the test in anything more severe than a drizzle or a light snowfall. I don't really think the lack of weather sealing is an issue unless you're dead set on standing out in a downpour without any cover for you and your gear
Which one do you suggest for a new starter for video podcast with some portraits photography?
Both are great, it probably comes down to which system you want to be in long term, which system has more lenses and possibly other camera bodies to incorporate later down the line.
Not to sound like a Sony shill, but for things that you want to automate and rely on autofocus (like a podcast), it's hard to beat Sony because the autofocus is so rock solid.
For me, Fujifilm is a much more hands on, take control, creative system whereas Sony just gets out of the way and allows you to focus on other things.
As for portrait photography, they're both solid. Image quality is very similar. I didn't try out the X-S20 photography features, so I don't really know if it has cool modes and features that may be appealing to you. Again, lenses are probably the more important consideration.
@@PhillipRPeck Thank you so much and it helped me a lot. Your youtube is very informative.
Hi...i'm so confused between getting x-s20 and sony a6700...im more of photography first, but would like to try video options to get best slo-mo (4k and Full hd) videos for my family occasions. Literally pondering every where to know which is best allrounder(lens, ecosystem, budget etc)..Also im yet to enter into mirrorless camera world and never have one with any brand...
Get Sony
Get Fuji
I have owned both cameras and found that the new autofocus system in the XS20 misses a lot even in photo mode. I bought mine for use with family events. After switching to the a6700 I find it much better for that type of situation. If you are going to manually focus in video then go with the Fuji because it has slightly more photo advantages, but if you care about autofocus in video even a little bit, go with the Sony.
@@ShaneAndersonProductions well known fact
Did you know that the xs20 has a dual gain iso sensor feature in log just like the a6700
When using flog2 if switching to iso 3200 the noise will be reduced compared to iso 2000 also retaining the color fidelity
As for working with high iso log base
I always have a variable ND attached to my lens so I can retain the shutter and arpature settings
Meaning I can still shoot wide open with a Siriu T1.2 lens in day time
I haven't seen anything regarding dual base ISO on the X-S20. I didn't really test high ISOs on these two cameras, so it didn't really come up in my limited time with the camera.
Definitely good advice to use a variable ND
@@PhillipRPeck
Not really dual base but has a dual gain iso
The difference is about 40% of noise and color shift gets cleaned up when the second gain kicks in
Pretty handy feature
Surprised that Fujifilm doesn't advertise it nor mention it
It's like the xt3 and xt4 where people found out after six month by chance that the second gain iso kicks in on iso 2000 when using flog which cleans up the image super good
It was one of the reasons that made me leave Panasonic eco system and jump ship to Fuji ,that and the colors plus the 10bit internal recording
They make phenomenal hybrids though I kinda wish they would go with a full on video camera
Something maybe like the fx3 but with their amazing xh2s sensor
Fuji would kill it in this market specially with how that sensor renders film grain instead of noise like the other competitors
The viewfinder for A6700 is only 1 cm... Do you have any difficulty using the small viewfinder with spectacles? I love using viewfinder so want to know whether its easy or difficult to use the small viewfinder with glasses...
Yes, it is difficult. I talk about this in some of my other a6700 videos. I have to shift my eye around to see the entire image quite a bit
@@PhillipRPeck thank you so much for the reply.. yes after watching this video, i watched another of your video and saw your observation... among all those who reviewed A6700, you are the only one who mentioned about the difficulty with glasses... thank you so much for the info....
@@johnsonguite No problem. Glad I could help
what about which is better for stills?
I didn't have enough time with the X-S20. Sorry, you'll have to look elsewhere for that information
SX has an optional cooling fan
Sony does such a much better job with smoothing things over for video, between the optical image stabilization and the auto focus (being much less jumpy). I wish the Fuji could keep up.
Now fuji compare with a big guy. Only thing fuji did better that is color.
This is true. Im was and still am in the canon world since 2005. But even my wedding was shot on Sony cameras borrowing canon glass.
Wow the Fuji image looks more natural and the colors are just amazing.
Thank you
Yeah, looks very organic. Really wish we could turn off noise reduction on Sony
my xs20 has a focus breathing problem that I can't seem to resolve
That’s a lens issue, not the camera
Is the crop in 4k noticeable from a audience point of view? I see the 4k crop in the a7c ii features
Which crop are you referring to? The difference between aps-c and full frame?
@@PhillipRPeck crop from recording videos
The a6700 has a very tiny crop in comparison to its full width in photo mode. I don’t know that the X-S20 has any crop in width in relation to its full sensor for video. Every hybrid camera is going to crop off the top and bottom of the sensor to record video in 16:9 or 17:9
Is the auto focus a gimmick or actual upgrade for a camera? Will it make life easier for one person vlogging?
What’s the definition of vlogging? For me, it’s been a game changer but I don’t know that I’m a vlogger
Even for professional shoots, I absolutely rely on the AF. It’s much more reliable than my old eyes
@@PhillipRPeck vlogging like capturing video memories like kid playing sports filming dog , family moments not a youtube vlog like family camcorder
If you’re not relying on your camera to make money, then critical focus might not be the most important consideration
Fuji has just released new firmware to improve autofocus. Also the biggest difference is the Fuji has better handling. Joystick more dials. Bigger grip.
Fuji can also usb stream at 4k60. And has USB 10gbps instead of 5gbps on the Sony for faster transfer from SD cards.
Fuji firmware can be directly upgraded from mobile app. Sony is still a hassle to do firmware updates.
#fujifilm cameras are VERY enjoyable to operate. a fair bit of physical operations to help negate speed things up and a welcome change when dealing with smartphone tapping all day. I still feel like Sony's are PCs. can operate fast but not very enjoyable.
#opengate is huge! Price point on #fuji is bonkers. for all they cram in.
To my eyes the video samples of the xs-20 were more filmic while the a 6700 looked more digital.
I think it's the internal noise reduction. But yeah, I overall prefer the image of the X-S20
But than again, stab on this Fuji is terrible compared to Sony.
This video is great, I don't think it needed the "qualifiers" for it not being complete. Only Gerald would do more, and he won't be making this video.
Thanks!
Is there autofocus at 240 fps video?
There is on the a6700 (has full eye detect) but I'm not sure about the X-S20. I didn't test it and I can't find any info about it online
@@PhillipRPeck can you test xs20 sometime soon?
I don't have one. I only rented it for a week
@@bosskaloi I appreciate you looking to me for this info but I don't have any plans to rent it again. I am sure there has to be someone out there who has some information on this 😅
I'll keep looking and post it here if I find it
@@PhillipRPeck ok
Love the video. But please fix your Microphone there is a high pitch in it when your talking.
Existe ajuste de velocidade de atualização de foco. Posição normal funciona muito bem nas Sony série 6000. São muitos item, tem que pesquisar mais. Foco: Os olhos tem que estar bem iluminados para a câmera poder trabalhar para nós.
There is focus refresh speed adjustment. Normal position works great on the Sony 6000 series. There are many items, you have to research more.
Focus: The eyes have to be well lit for the camera to be able to work for us.
Which camera are you talking about?
Idk what mic you’re using but there’s an INSANE high pitched sound whenever you speak
Thanks for letting me know
@@PhillipRPeck love love your videos man! I was really struggling to pick between these 2 cameras and I finally decided the 6700 was for me. Thank you again!
@@theofficialsolomonmatthew Thank you! I hope you like it!
Something’s wrong with the audio on the video.
Nice one, sir. I'm a new subscriber. Base on your reviews sir, Fujifilm x-s20 wins.
Image quality is like night and day. Fuji winssss....
What lens did you use on them
Fujifilm 23mm f/1.4 (old version)
Sony 20mm f/1.8 G
@@PhillipRPeck so you can use sony lenses on this fujifilm? didn't know that(newbee here). Im interested in FujiFilm xs20, do you know If it supports tethering by cable like the alpha?
@@alonsogarrote8898 No. You cannot use Sony lenses on the Fujifilm. I used the Sony 20mm on the a6700 and the Fujifilm 23mm on the X-S20.
I don't know about tethering, sorry
Sony wont have open gate due to a limitation with xavc decoder chip used in all it's cameras. Maybe newer bodies now 😅
I've not heard that before, but maybe...? Guess it makes sense since the Venice is the only camera with open gate!
that's rubbish
I bought Fujixs20 . But I am still confusing. Camera is ok, but after Sony it’s so complicated to setup. And autofocus is bad (Let's call a spade a spade) , ibis is worse than onmy Sony a7-4 with active mode .
And camera gets overheated when I take photos , not a video, lol.
I fell for marketing from Fujifilm 😢
I did find the menus a bit tricky as well but I figured once you spend time with it you'd get used to it. I didn't want to mention it in the video because I've had years of experience with Sony and only a few days with the Fuji menu.
I didn't take any photos with the X-S20 so I can't speak to your experiences with AF or overheating with that, but I wouldn't say that the AF is bad for video--just not class-leading like Sony.
I also shot long clips in 6.2K, 4:2:2 10-bit, 200mbps with no overheating issues. Did you set the overheating threshold to high? I found that the X-S20 is quick to give an overheating warning but the camera felt barely warm. So maybe Fujifilm is too conservative with the warnings.
Sorry you feel burned (no pun intended) by the camera. Is it too late to return it?
@@PhillipRPeck surprisingly it didnt overheat in 6k yes, only in 4k50 after 15 mins . Yes , overheating range is in a high option . I still have 2 weeks on Amazon to return it , but still thinking about it ....
@@mex5341, because 6k in 30fps.
Yeah I don't get it as well. Almost everyone state that Fuji IBIS and menus are better than Sony but it's exactly the opposite. Sony Active mode as shown in this video is much much better than Fujis jerky movements. Fuji is only ok for static shots. Also in Sony there is gyro data for catalyst browse and results are gimbal like. AF was always worse than competition and it will stay like that. There is no tracking option in video mode which is a joke in 2023 and their eye af is still far behind in my opinion. As far as I saw only X-H2S comes close with AF in stills but only with their newest LM glass which is big, heavy and expensive.
@@MrRafalEn most of the lovers are Fuji fans,
they don't look objectively. Ibis works better in 4k mode, but I use more 6k . And I found that for example 400 iso with the same parameters is not the same as 400Iso on Sony.
The Fuji has an optional cooling fan to prevent overheating. The Sony has no such option.
I think Ulanzi has a fan for Sony cameras. Not sure how effective it is
Sorry your video has an underlying background hiss in the audio when you're talking. Maybe you need a preamp for your microphone.
ig review seems to biased towards sony.
0:40 There's this high pitched whining sound
Sony video and images seem so light and bright. Fuji colors look better
FIRST PURCHASE XS20 THEN MAKE A VIDEO
BAIS REVIEW
SIR IF U NOT LOKE FUJI THEN PLEASE NOT REVIEW , I SEE IN FIRT 2 MINTS AND ITS CLEAR THAT UNOT LIKE FUJI
If you don't like the video please don't watch it and don't post stupid comments.