I looked at both cameras in the shop and decided to go for A6700, it came down to price, for the extra money and what I use the camera for, it wasn’t worth getting the A7c2. I’m not a pro photographer, just enjoy taking photos when walking around. Love the camera though, it’s amazing
I didn't buy the A6700 to save money. I bought it to save weight and bulk, both on camera and lenses. Crop sensors are not objectively worse than full frame lenses, it depends what you want, and what lenses you buy.
This is one of the best camera comparisons I have ever seen. The explanation, videos and photos you have taken are god-tier! Especially the shot with the Porsche on the Ice and the snowy mountain background. Almost looks like a Porsche poster. Wow!
I was waiting for this video! Thanks for making it! I am thinking on going full frame and doing exactly what you said, starting changing my APSC lenses slowly....
Awesome video, love seeing the compairson on these cameras, it was actually your a6700 videos that convinced me to but the a6700 as my first miroless camera and I am loving it so far.
Great comparison. I made the switch to fullframe about a year ago and it was the right decision for me, but for a LOT of people I think APS-C is the better choice. APS-C cameras can be incredibly good.
I went for the a7cII because I think it will pay off in the long run (I do photography mostly, videos…what are those?). I like the idea of having such a compact full frame sensor and for night photography is so great! I had a sony rx100vii to which was a tiny little beast and I decided to step it up to full frame. But if I could go back in time (or my suggestion to anyone who wants to have a solid first step into photography) is the a6700 for sure! (Also btw check the prices. In my country Switzerland the difference in price between the two was not so great, weird!)
Great video! Thanks for sharing! One thing that it wasnt mentioned in the video is that A7CII has only electronic shutter and Electronic-First Curtain Shutter (meanwhile A6700 is equipped with full mechanical shutter and others). Dont know whether it is important for other ppl, but that was actually dealbreaker for me.
I have the A7RV and the A6700 and they seem perfectly suited. Am tempted at some point to swap the A6700 for the A7CR so would love to see a comparison to know if the jump in price is worth it. Any chance?
Founded your 2 videos about cameras. Previously owned a Canon 6D and long time ago a Nikon 3100-3200 version. I am designer and always loved a photography and video editing. On my Unsplash account I have over 7+ Million views and mostly pictures was taken on my iPhone 11 Pro. I always dreamed about a camera to take photos and film some videos but never got into this purchase serious. You made my understandings easier about camera comparison, quality and budget. I will try probably A6700 for now and see how it will work. It will be enough for now. Thank you so much for this information. You helped me a lot to understand the Sony Market (I always dreamed about A7s3 or latest versions) but my budget is not that big and I am not doing very professional photos (it's not my job) so I don't see a point investing so much just for a camera to travel and take images and upload them on Unsplash for memories :) Thanks again!
Great video. I love the blind comparison, but would really appreciate if you used equivalent depth of field as well as focal lengths/colors, or if you just mixed up which side was which camera. The first photo in your blind compare series had a much shallower depth of field on the left than the right, which is usually a giveaway that it is the full-frame. DOF is obviously a potential advantage of full frame over aps-c, but a lot of people will be able to afford the a6700 with a f/1.4 aps-c lens for the same price as an a7cii with a f/1.8 or f/2 lens, and often even less money (e.g., a6700 + sigma f/1.4 series lens is cheaper than a7cii with sigma f/2 series lens). So it'd be nice to see a compare where the effective apertures are the same.
Awesome, and thanks again for a great video! I actually preferred the a6700 photos for the most part, especially the landscapes. Not sure why, but they seemed to have more pop.@@thaticelandicguy
Very entertaining video, thank-you. As a fellow Sony fan-boy, I currently have the A7R4 and A6700 for my expensive hobby. Many folks criticised the A6700 when it was released for being as bulky as a full-frame camera (compared to say the NEX-7 or A6000). But, as you pointed out, it costs much less and still performs outstandingly well. Personally I like a body with a bit of weight (cameras, not people) and find I'm using the A6700 more than the A6600 it replaced (kudos to Sony for moving up to a full-frame battery).. You're right, Sony's decision to make all NEX lenses work on all bodies, regardless of sensor size was inspired. APS-C lenses can be a lot lighter and the A6700 with 16-55/2.8 APS-C G-Master lens is a killer combination and (relatively) small & light - if i want truly small & light, I use an RX-100.. As for dual SD card slots - I don't think space is an issue, more to do with not impinging on their higher priced cameras - we're already getting a lot of that tasty up-marker tech in the colour-science, autofocus and image processing on these 'enthusiast' cameras, we mustn't be greedy. That said, I wouldn't want to shoot a wedding with a singe card-slot - it would be like going back to film!! Keep up the good work my friend. your country's scenery is outstandingly beautiful and you clearly have an eye for beauty..
Size matters!!! As a constant international traveler my sony a6700 with 3-4 lenses (all tiny apsc sized) all fit into a tiny sling bag that I can easily carry. My lenses give me a range from 10mm to 527mm (full frame equivalent). I also use an RX100 vii which is fantasticl in image quality (and this entire camera fits in the palm of my hand including the built-in zoom lens). For more rugged work I bring a Tough V which is waterproof. But ALL of these cameras are tiny. I just got back from a cruise to the antarctica and shot with guys with enormous full frame lenses. Of course the zoom ranges of full frame that extend beyond 527mm are going to give you better shots at a distance, but at an enormous cost of weight and size. Some of these lenses approach 3 feet :). Even the apsc camera is at times too big and in many countries travelers with obvious cameras will be robbed (no question). Size apparently matters enormously to all of us…what camera do you commonly take with you to parties, the city, etc.? Your cell phone! Or at most a tiny palm-sized camera. I don’t see people regularly walking around with big cameras! The camera that you use is the most useful camera you have :). I love your videos, but again, it is NOT the cost for me, but the quality and convenience of the smaller apsc camera and lens that appeals to me the most. :) :)
As an amateur i fail to see the quality difference in the final result, might aswell go with the cheaper and smaller solution, but thats just me…a6600 + sigma trio and im set for good
I have the A6700 but I'm thinking than the price and weight difference (body and lenses) between APS-C and Full Frame, Full frame doesn't worth it. I thinkFull Frame is irreplaceable if you want an ultra-ultra wide angle. With the Brighting star 9mm, you have the widest view that you can have on full frame without deformation. We need a 6mm 0-deformation on APS-C.
Correction: A6700 in 4k 120fps video is giving additional 1.58 crop on top of 1.5 apsc crop. The 4k 120fps is not over or subsampled, it is just 1 to 1 readout from small part of the sensor. It is actually a great achievement as readout speed for 120fps video must be 8ms.
I just watched it because I consider buying a camera in a few months, let's be honest 44% cheaper for a camera that is similar than a 2200Euro camera is a great deal. I'll watch your beginner guide camera but I think I'll stick with a6700
I have the 6700, so I’m going to say that’s the best because my dumb ass didn’t investigate photography a little more before making the purchase. I saw what I had in my bank and said, yup 6700 it is! Mula play a big part in that.
What if they were the same cost? I'm looking at getting a new camera and am leaning towards the a7cii. I will be doing photography primarily. Im thi king of pairing it with the sony g 16-35 f4
I am planning to buy my first camera. I have used my friend's a6400 before. I am really confused between a7c and a6700. Photography is just a hobby for me. Might do some professional work in future. So which one would you suggest considering everything, cause a6700 has a new sensor and AI Chip as well.
Thanks for this very helpful video 👍👍... Q1. Can we make digital zoom on sony a6700 or on a7cii at 120fps or at 240fps for FHD or 4k for batter wildlife telephoto reach to shoot slow-mo? (Any of these combination, after turn on digital zoom in settings) Q2. Can you confirm If we set photo shoot resolution to a lower megapixel resolution from the highest resolution settings available, dose it downsample from the full sensor or it's just skip pixels to make a lower resolution photo?
Hola mi Amigo. I want to start with photography, I have seen some of your videos and I really liked your content and your style. I have 2 questions. Which one would you recommend me to start from 0. A6100 / A6400 / A6700 / A7 II OR A7 III? Thinking about budget and a person starting out. The other question is. Do you have any photography courses to buy? And any course of editions in lightroom and photoshop? Greetings!
Thank you for the video. I actually currently own both but I don’t really shoot video. Both great but find some of the small APS-C lenses are special and ultra portable like sigma’s 10-18/2.8 and 18-50/2.8 DC DN Contemporary pair and the Sony E 70-350 G OSS lens (for zoom). So we will see.
In your experience, is there a big difference in low light photography between the two? I don't need a lot of ISO but I also don't want a camera that leaves something to be desired.
@@Senjak026 Their low light performance in my opinion is not that much different but I think the nod goes to the A7CII IF you have the fast glass to support it. The good fast primes on the A6700 are smaller and cheaper than the full frame version on the A7CII but both have excellent f/1.4 primes you will just have to pay more for the full frame versions and they will typically be bigger and heavier. Figure out the price of your kit for both to help decide. Take care.
I noticed something. If I saw off the hump of my A7R3, the result will be a body very close to the same size of the A7CR/II. Getting rid of the hump makes a huge difference. Now, keep talking cameras and don't forget to show us some of your handiwork using product you are reviewing.
Saw lots of videos comparing these two cameras If anyone is planning to buy then 6700 is awesome!!! On point focus clarity and great pics and videos...i came from a m50 mk ii fun!! I shoot mainly for fun , family friends pics vids
The footage tells the following story. I found a lovely swedish girl and had to move to Stockholm. But when i get a chance I go back to Iceland with my little family to see the lovely mountains and my redbearded brother. His name is probably Hurgafurirlurgur, or something very simular!?! Great comparison! Just what i needed.
the comparison photos were quite interesting. I could not see a difference on the landscape pictures, but in portraits the separation from background and background blur is different. The left looks better and more separated. I assume the better separation is the full frame sensor. Right? I guess you used also comparable aperture settings.
I stopped the video to write the question in the comments right before you actually revealed what camera is what side. Sorry for that. I should watch the entire video before commenting. But I was also kind of right and this means for certain use cases there is a difference.
The APS-C camera has no OLPF (Sony specifications) and Sony is mystical about the OLPF in the case of the A7C II. The difference between OLPF or not can be dramatic and not only in gained sharpness due to its absence. Absence would give you more colour space, dynamic range, contrast envelope, contour sharpness, low light sensitivity, and probably less vignetting. But it complicates raw processing and with inadequate raw processing software you get a bit more Bayer noise in the darker image areas as well as the blurred areas. By the way, dynamic range would not follow from a processor but lives in the sensor to begin with. The sensor being analogue (and colour blind), somewhere the analogue exposure values are converted into digital and that - today likely - also happens in the sensor. Moore's Law. So, if the FF camera has an OLPF then you cannot draw any conclusion about the impact of the size. Image quality differences following from MP are generally marginal, but the impact of removing the OLPF is 'shocking'.
Hi late to the party, could you kindly help me out if I pair apsc lens with full frame boy in low light situation will full frame perform better in terms of noise? No pixel peaking. I'm considering about Sony 70-350mm for light weight and budget options. Thanks in advance 😅
But how does it look on FF sensors without the apsc mode on? Is it like the Sony 10-18 F4 that you can basically use on FF as well despite it being an apsc lens?
No dual card slot😂 these days people are spoilt! Try doing weddings on film with no preview and no dual film cameras. That’s what photographers had to do and I’m glad, it taught me a lot. Mind you, I’ve still to find someone who has lost an important shoot because of card failure, the other 99% of you don’t need it anyway. I often come home with less than 20 photos taken because I was taught to make every picture count. It’s not hard to get a good pic by firing off 20 fps shutters.
I really enjoy this video, i have an a6000 with some apsc lenses, and i don't know if upgrade with a6700 or a7c2.. i could use my lens on a7c2 in apsc mode to start, but i don't if quality will go down too much
WOW! What a timely video. I was just thinking about this comparison. I just bought the a7Cii for video & backup, as well as, my travel camera to my main a7RV. A few things to note about the A7Cii: IMO, the aesthetics on the A7Cii (silver) is really nice, Sony added the "AI" processing that greatly helps AWB which improves colors & skin tones (A7iv skin tones aren't as good).
A7CII is a great choice :) I really like that camera, and as you said it's like the a7iv but better. The only thing is lack of 2 sd cards, and some poeple don't like the smaller VF. But I like the small body, and the aesthetics is really nice indeed!
Great video my friend - super original!! Couple things you missed is A7Cii has S-Cinetone which is an amazing picture profile, also shoots in 6K downsampled to very sharp 4K video due to its 33mp resolution. Also the new AI chip has that auto-framing feature that can follow you around like a cameraman. Better in low-light too. Can add LUTS easily and an amazing new menu ! Love your style!!!!! 📸
The A7CR given the choice. But lacking that it really depends. If the buyer owns no glass then the Cii, start in FF. If the owner owns crop glass just go for the 6700.
Yesterday just got the a6700 (upgrading from zve10) to make cooking videos and have fun with the 60fps and 120fps in 4k. Found your channel recently and just can not stop wachin your videos, such great quality!!!
Upgraded to the old(!) A7C and I'm loving it. Rocked APSC 8 years, and I msut say the difference is VAST. I was always convinced the difference is minimal and at the end of the day, a good photo is not determined by the sensor size. Still I made the jump out of curiosity, going into FF knowing full well that its not much different -> Just like your comparison pictures show, they are VERY similiar. -> I was very happy to find out, that the FF offers MUCH better image quality. I had the Sigma 1.4 primes on APSC and switched to cheaper Samyang 1.8 primes on FF and it is vastly sharper. I now understand when reviewers talk about "sharpest lens ever", cause now I can actually see differences in lenses. Added that the LOW LIGHT performance is much more than 1-stop which is always mentioned. ISO25600 looks better than ISO6400 on my A6000. This can't really be seen on a compressed TH-cam video. That said, I think a lot of this also comes from newer sensor technology and not just APSC vs FF. Still, the a6400 had the very same IQ as the a6000. Didn't properly try the a6700 which now has BSI sensor, BUT had back to back test with it, which still looked the same. Add the fact that the a6700 actually costs 400 bucks more than an A7C. Also no weight/size advantage.
Yeah as much as I and everyone else roots for the differences to be minimal, I went from the a6600 to a7iv and the difference feels huge. I will say the extra battery life of the apsc is one advantage I really miss.
@@jumpmansz agree, while I still preach that APSC is more than enough, I now tell them that there is a noticable difference. Had the opposite experience with the battery, cause I came from the bad FW batteries to the FZ batteries
This video made my life more difficult :) .. (not in a bad way) .. I'm a life long Pentax user (this means I am in my mid 50s). As I am getting older, I am getting more sore, and want to lighten my load when hiking, walking, etc... My Pentax K-3 iii has been a dream camera but it is also heavy .. Since Pentax jumped out of the mirrorless game after the K-01 I am left with no choice but to change my ecosystem (and it will NOT be canon). Budget is important, but not a deal breaker (well, there "is" a budget, because if not I'd go with the Hasselblad X2D. Video is obviously NOT a concern for me). The A66700 just looks to be the more economical choice, but after owning the Pentax K-1 ii, I am a sucker for a big sensor, and I'm still hurting from buying lenses that can handle the full frame sensor. I fired up a few camera outlets, and will do some math shopping to figure out what I can get with out catching my wallet on fire. Thank you for the video, great job with the side by side images and video.
The grip differs between those two more than I thought: I had an a6700 for some time and wanted to switch to a7cII. Only to notice that they reduced the grip size. My smallish hands could hold the a6700 well. The a7cii however is built for about 1 to 1.5 cm shorter fingers. Why didn't they just keep the a6700 grip 😒
I have my eyes on the A6700. Do you experience any overheating issues when filming? I don't plan to shoot anything crazy. I don't need 10 bit color and I don't need 4k 60. Love your videos!
I want one lens, and the 16-55mm 2.8 g for apsc sonys is what I'm picking, nothing in that range for full frame, otherwise I'd jump on the a7cii in a heart beat.
a6700 seems like the perfect camera for me and for my upcoming trip to a hot country. However, the overheating is a major problem and the fx30 is just too expensive.
I think you overthink it, the overheating will happen if you film video at high resolution and fps (from my understanding i can be wrong) for a long period of time unless you do that i don't think overheating will be an issue at all.
@@theo_mande from my understanding, a6700 will overheat in a few minutes especially in hot weather. Solution to minimize it will be to add an external fan.
Great comparison and video as always my friend :) For "normies" the A6700 would be always the better choice I guess. Sure full frame gives you better low light performance and more bokeh, but normal people usually don't take a lot of pictures as soon the sun goes down. Most of them disapear behind some screens or settle down on a couch in front of a screen instead of taking pictures in the dark :D It's only camera nerds like us, who think they "need" full frame for xyz - and I fall victim to this myself :') APSc in general can rival full frame even in looks, if you have the correct lens (like f1.2 which would also be big). And people do find APSc might be enough, I mean look at Fujifilm sales :)
even apsc f1.2 lenses are much smaller than full frame equivalents. fujifilm F1 lenses are about the same sizes as their full frame F1.4 equivalents. I think APSC can totally be a better choice for anyone looking to bring their cameras everywhere with them.
I have used A6700 since release and shoot video often with it. It never overheats on me after the first firmware update which came out within a month after release. I shoot short clips 4K24p and some 4K60p/120 in between if needed. I live in Thailand and if you are not sure it's really really really hot here and we only get like a week of winter in a year. If you plan to shoot long form video 4K60p or 120p then dont buy this one. If you are shooting 4k24p....dont worry about the overheat issue. It goes well above 1.30-2 hours and the battery might even die first.
In the end, shooting 50mm f1.4 on FF just cannot be done on APS-c due to lenses not being at stupidly wide apertures. Its really about the lenses and depth of field you can get for each format. If you are in the aperture range that they both do, matched to relative aperture, then there isnt really much difference. Overall FF just looks amazing. Its like easier to get unreal results. APS-C can help in low light when you do not want shallow depth of field because it wont give you that at the same exact aperture for the FOV. So, the math is easy to understand. In the end, the FF usually do everything better, but the cost of the lenses may be more. Also, the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 is the deal of the century, so go FF.
With APS-c you can fit a 18-50 F2.8, a 70-350mm and a 13mm F1.4 all into a small messenger bag that weighs less than 2KG, you are spoilt for choice when it comes to glass you can easily take with you unencumbered. You can blow up the pictures to about the size of a 70" TV before noticing any loss of IQ and blow out backgrounds with F0.95 glass if you wish. So when you show literally anyone your pictures they not only can't tell, but they also don't give a shit if you spend 3 times the amount on Full Frame glass.
Wondering if this is the upgrade for me too, I shoot clubs and beginning to get into concerts. Low light performance is important to me. Is the 6700 good enough or will it still lag far behind the A7 IV/ AC2 ?
@@Vic-cn4fe it’ll always lack behind full frame because aps-c just can’t absorb as much light per pixel. But if you have a wide aperture lens, 2.8 or wider, then it does very well in low light. I filled outside at night with just street lights and building signs and there was no noticeable noise.
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what a cold bleak depressing country you live in.
I looked at both cameras in the shop and decided to go for A6700, it came down to price, for the extra money and what I use the camera for, it wasn’t worth getting the A7c2. I’m not a pro photographer, just enjoy taking photos when walking around. Love the camera though, it’s amazing
I didn't buy the A6700 to save money.
I bought it to save weight and bulk, both on camera and lenses.
Crop sensors are not objectively worse than full frame lenses, it depends what you want, and what lenses you buy.
agree to that!
This is one of the best camera comparisons I have ever seen. The explanation, videos and photos you have taken are god-tier! Especially the shot with the Porsche on the Ice and the snowy mountain background. Almost looks like a Porsche poster. Wow!
I have an fx30 and a a6000 and I just bought the a6700 today. A great new brother.
Such a nice little camera ☺️ congratulations 🙌🏻
nice stack man! which one would you pick for shooting cinematic gym videos/photos? im trying to dive into this realm lol
@@tygerthecreator2860go a head and take sony zve1
@@zrahutkay6758 i went for sony a6700
why have the 6700 and the fx30 ... same sensor. minor differences, no ?
I was waiting for this video! Thanks for making it! I am thinking on going full frame and doing exactly what you said, starting changing my APSC lenses slowly....
Go for it!
Awesome video, love seeing the compairson on these cameras, it was actually your a6700 videos that convinced me to but the a6700 as my first miroless camera and I am loving it so far.
It is a great camera ☺️
Same :D
might want to throw in some low light comparisons since that is the biggest difference between both sensors. great video btw.
This was super helpful, thank you. Also, we visited Iceland over Christmas last year and these shots reminded me of how beautiful this country is!
You've literally blown my mind! I was just wondering the comparison of these two "bad boys" and then you post the video🤣🤣
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My first mirrorless camera sony A6700. Its good camera. Not any complain with price range. I love it.
Great comparison. I made the switch to fullframe about a year ago and it was the right decision for me, but for a LOT of people I think APS-C is the better choice. APS-C cameras can be incredibly good.
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Just got the a6700 and loving it so far!!
Great camera!
I went for the a7cII because I think it will pay off in the long run (I do photography mostly, videos…what are those?). I like the idea of having such a compact full frame sensor and for night photography is so great! I had a sony rx100vii to which was a tiny little beast and I decided to step it up to full frame. But if I could go back in time (or my suggestion to anyone who wants to have a solid first step into photography) is the a6700 for sure!
(Also btw check the prices. In my country Switzerland the difference in price between the two was not so great, weird!)
It’s a really nice camera ☺️ has almost all the perks, small and a great ff 🙌🏻
I also live in Switzerland and I'm thinking of taking an a7cii. In any case I'd need to change all my lenses as I come from Canon.
@@RNWLLah cool, I live in sweden though
Which store did you buy from in Switzerland? I’m currently living here and looking to upgrade and wondering where to buy from
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Awesome comparison i just wonder what lenses did you used for the A6700 on this video?
I ENJOYED YOUR REVIEW AND PICKED UP THE A6700 FOR $1279 USD 🥳
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
One thing that it wasnt mentioned in the video is that A7CII has only electronic shutter and Electronic-First Curtain Shutter (meanwhile A6700 is equipped with full mechanical shutter and others).
Dont know whether it is important for other ppl, but that was actually dealbreaker for me.
In what situations would the mechanical shutter benefit you, just a curious noob
I can't remember what you said but was all these clips filmed using the stock lenses & with no filters?
This is a great video the added pictures and videos side by sides the transitions the lut i love the color !! W video !!!
Thanks so much!!
Nice Video félagi, would you say it's worth it to upgrade from the Sony ZVE-10 to the A6700 ?
Yes that’s a great upgrade ☺️
Absolutely
Speaking from experience - yes! Hang on to your ZVE10 if you can as it is an excellent b or c cam!
I have the A7RV and the A6700 and they seem perfectly suited. Am tempted at some point to swap the A6700 for the A7CR so would love to see a comparison to know if the jump in price is worth it.
Any chance?
The a7cr vs a6700? 👀
Now, this is how you compare cameras! Good job!
Founded your 2 videos about cameras. Previously owned a Canon 6D and long time ago a Nikon 3100-3200 version. I am designer and always loved a photography and video editing. On my Unsplash account I have over 7+ Million views and mostly pictures was taken on my iPhone 11 Pro. I always dreamed about a camera to take photos and film some videos but never got into this purchase serious. You made my understandings easier about camera comparison, quality and budget. I will try probably A6700 for now and see how it will work. It will be enough for now. Thank you so much for this information. You helped me a lot to understand the Sony Market (I always dreamed about A7s3 or latest versions) but my budget is not that big and I am not doing very professional photos (it's not my job) so I don't see a point investing so much just for a camera to travel and take images and upload them on Unsplash for memories :) Thanks again!
Thanks for watching and happy I could help you ☺️ I hope you’ll end up finding the perfect camera for you!
I want the A6700 but I love the silver / metal color on the A7C II 😫
Really wish they had put 2 card slots on the a6700 so it could be used professionally. They really missed a trick here.
That would have been really epic indeed
Great video. I love the blind comparison, but would really appreciate if you used equivalent depth of field as well as focal lengths/colors, or if you just mixed up which side was which camera. The first photo in your blind compare series had a much shallower depth of field on the left than the right, which is usually a giveaway that it is the full-frame. DOF is obviously a potential advantage of full frame over aps-c, but a lot of people will be able to afford the a6700 with a f/1.4 aps-c lens for the same price as an a7cii with a f/1.8 or f/2 lens, and often even less money (e.g., a6700 + sigma f/1.4 series lens is cheaper than a7cii with sigma f/2 series lens). So it'd be nice to see a compare where the effective apertures are the same.
Yea you are right, f1.4 on apsc isn't like f1.4 on ff :) will keep this in mind for the future, to have them the exact same
Awesome, and thanks again for a great video! I actually preferred the a6700 photos for the most part, especially the landscapes. Not sure why, but they seemed to have more pop.@@thaticelandicguy
Very entertaining video, thank-you. As a fellow Sony fan-boy, I currently have the A7R4 and A6700 for my expensive hobby. Many folks criticised the A6700 when it was released for being as bulky as a full-frame camera (compared to say the NEX-7 or A6000). But, as you pointed out, it costs much less and still performs outstandingly well. Personally I like a body with a bit of weight (cameras, not people) and find I'm using the A6700 more than the A6600 it replaced (kudos to Sony for moving up to a full-frame battery)..
You're right, Sony's decision to make all NEX lenses work on all bodies, regardless of sensor size was inspired. APS-C lenses can be a lot lighter and the A6700 with 16-55/2.8 APS-C G-Master lens is a killer combination and (relatively) small & light - if i want truly small & light, I use an RX-100..
As for dual SD card slots - I don't think space is an issue, more to do with not impinging on their higher priced cameras - we're already getting a lot of that tasty up-marker tech in the colour-science, autofocus and image processing on these 'enthusiast' cameras, we mustn't be greedy. That said, I wouldn't want to shoot a wedding with a singe card-slot - it would be like going back to film!!
Keep up the good work my friend. your country's scenery is outstandingly beautiful and you clearly have an eye for beauty..
Size matters!!! As a constant international traveler my sony a6700 with 3-4 lenses (all tiny apsc sized) all fit into a tiny sling bag that I can easily carry. My lenses give me a range from 10mm to 527mm (full frame equivalent). I also use an RX100 vii which is fantasticl in image quality (and this entire camera fits in the palm of my hand including the built-in zoom lens). For more rugged work I bring a Tough V which is waterproof. But ALL of these cameras are tiny. I just got back from a cruise to the antarctica and shot with guys with enormous full frame lenses. Of course the zoom ranges of full frame that extend beyond 527mm are going to give you better shots at a distance, but at an enormous cost of weight and size. Some of these lenses approach 3 feet :). Even the apsc camera is at times too big and in many countries travelers with obvious cameras will be robbed (no question). Size apparently matters enormously to all of us…what camera do you commonly take with you to parties, the city, etc.? Your cell phone! Or at most a tiny palm-sized camera. I don’t see people regularly walking around with big cameras! The camera that you use is the most useful camera you have :). I love your videos, but again, it is NOT the cost for me, but the quality and convenience of the smaller apsc camera and lens that appeals to me the most. :) :)
As an amateur i fail to see the quality difference in the final result, might aswell go with the cheaper and smaller solution, but thats just me…a6600 + sigma trio and im set for good
I have the A6700 but I'm thinking than the price and weight difference (body and lenses) between APS-C and Full Frame, Full frame doesn't worth it.
I thinkFull Frame is irreplaceable if you want an ultra-ultra wide angle. With the Brighting star 9mm, you have the widest view that you can have on full frame without deformation. We need a 6mm 0-deformation on APS-C.
Hahah 6mm with a deformation would be sick hahaha 😂 but yea the a6700 is great 🤘🏻
Keep it up, bro!. Amazing content as usual.
Appreciate it!
A wonderful comparison video. Very informative and entertaining. Great job.
I haven’t noticed that the a7cii has extra dial, thanks for pointing it out
np!
Correction:
A6700 in 4k 120fps video is giving additional 1.58 crop on top of 1.5 apsc crop. The 4k 120fps is not over or subsampled, it is just 1 to 1 readout from small part of the sensor.
It is actually a great achievement as readout speed for 120fps video must be 8ms.
Ah thank you for the information ☺️ really appreciated!
I just watched it because I consider buying a camera in a few months, let's be honest 44% cheaper for a camera that is similar than a 2200Euro camera is a great deal. I'll watch your beginner guide camera but I think I'll stick with a6700
Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.
Thanks ☺️
I have the 6700, so I’m going to say that’s the best because my dumb ass didn’t investigate photography a little more before making the purchase. I saw what I had in my bank and said, yup 6700 it is! Mula play a big part in that.
Hahahah, but the a6700 is also great for photography :)
Where are overheating and rolling shutter tests, bro? Low light performance also could be nice to see...
The A7C II has 204,800 ISO as well. Dont know if you got them mixed up or something but, yeah
What if they were the same cost? I'm looking at getting a new camera and am leaning towards the a7cii. I will be doing photography primarily. Im thi king of pairing it with the sony g 16-35 f4
it all comes down to if you want ff or apsc :) but the a7cii is a great choice!
I am planning to buy my first camera. I have used my friend's a6400 before. I am really confused between a7c and a6700. Photography is just a hobby for me. Might do some professional work in future. So which one would you suggest considering everything, cause a6700 has a new sensor and AI Chip as well.
The A7C II has the same new AI Chip as well as a 33mp sensor
Thanks for this very helpful video 👍👍...
Q1. Can we make digital zoom on sony a6700 or on a7cii at 120fps or at 240fps for FHD or 4k for batter wildlife telephoto reach to shoot slow-mo? (Any of these combination, after turn on digital zoom in settings)
Q2. Can you confirm If we set photo shoot resolution to a lower megapixel resolution from the highest resolution settings available, dose it downsample from the full sensor or it's just skip pixels to make a lower resolution photo?
Hola mi Amigo. I want to start with photography, I have seen some of your videos and I really liked your content and your style. I have 2 questions. Which one would you recommend me to start from 0. A6100 / A6400 / A6700 / A7 II OR A7 III? Thinking about budget and a person starting out.
The other question is. Do you have any photography courses to buy? And any course of editions in lightroom and photoshop? Greetings!
Amazing comparison, earned a subscriber 💯
Thank you for the video. I actually currently own both but I don’t really shoot video. Both great but find some of the small APS-C lenses are special and ultra portable like sigma’s 10-18/2.8 and 18-50/2.8 DC DN Contemporary pair and the Sony E 70-350 G OSS lens (for zoom). So we will see.
In your experience, is there a big difference in low light photography between the two? I don't need a lot of ISO but I also don't want a camera that leaves something to be desired.
@@Senjak026 Their low light performance in my opinion is not that much different but I think the nod goes to the A7CII IF you have the fast glass to support it. The good fast primes on the A6700 are smaller and cheaper than the full frame version on the A7CII but both have excellent f/1.4 primes you will just have to pay more for the full frame versions and they will typically be bigger and heavier. Figure out the price of your kit for both to help decide. Take care.
I noticed something. If I saw off the hump of my A7R3, the result will be a body very close to the same size of the A7CR/II. Getting rid of the hump makes a huge difference. Now, keep talking cameras and don't forget to show us some of your handiwork using product you are reviewing.
Fearfully opening this video after returning an A7iv brand new for the A7c ii but was considering the 6700
you'll enjoy the a7cii it's a sick camera! :)
I like both of them but wish the both had a joy stick for maneuvering the focus point.
agree!
Just came across your channel! Helpful and I love how much personality you bring to the video, great stuff mate!
Which lenses have you used for shots in the video? For both cameras
Saw lots of videos comparing these two cameras
If anyone is planning to buy then 6700 is awesome!!! On point focus clarity and great pics and videos...i came from a m50 mk ii fun!! I shoot mainly for fun , family friends pics vids
Thanks to this video too
The footage tells the following story. I found a lovely swedish girl and had to move to Stockholm. But when i get a chance I go back to Iceland with my little family to see the lovely mountains and my redbearded brother. His name is probably Hurgafurirlurgur, or something very simular!?! Great comparison! Just what i needed.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you for the helpful comparative video! God bless and good luck!
Thanks for this! Also thanks for making it entertaining haha
the comparison photos were quite interesting. I could not see a difference on the landscape pictures, but in portraits the separation from background and background blur is different. The left looks better and more separated. I assume the better separation is the full frame sensor. Right? I guess you used also comparable aperture settings.
I stopped the video to write the question in the comments right before you actually revealed what camera is what side. Sorry for that. I should watch the entire video before commenting. But I was also kind of right and this means for certain use cases there is a difference.
can you do a a6700 vs a7iii. i feel that its better to pick a6700 than a7iii
Is it better to go with full frame and one zoom lens f 2,8, or apsc with two or three prime lens f 1,4 on gimbal
Perrrrrrfect!
Great comparison....how is the rolling shutter on both these cameras ?
I can't find any better reason than your accent to watch your vids
lol x)
The APS-C camera has no OLPF (Sony specifications) and Sony is mystical about the OLPF in the case of the A7C II. The difference between OLPF or not can be dramatic and not only in gained sharpness due to its absence. Absence would give you more colour space, dynamic range, contrast envelope, contour sharpness, low light sensitivity, and probably less vignetting. But it complicates raw processing and with inadequate raw processing software you get a bit more Bayer noise in the darker image areas as well as the blurred areas. By the way, dynamic range would not follow from a processor but lives in the sensor to begin with. The sensor being analogue (and colour blind), somewhere the analogue exposure values are converted into digital and that - today likely - also happens in the sensor. Moore's Law. So, if the FF camera has an OLPF then you cannot draw any conclusion about the impact of the size. Image quality differences following from MP are generally marginal, but the impact of removing the OLPF is 'shocking'.
Thanks for the video, helped me a bit in my decision. Low-light / iso comparison would've been cool.
Ah you sre totally right! Will keep that in mind next time ☺️
What lens did you use with the a6700 for landscape photos?
Sony 16-55 2.8 👌🏻🤘🏻
which one is best for weddings sony 7c mark 2 or sony a6700 camera
There is no best. Both are great. Comes down to skill really. BUT if you like super slow mo shots the 6700 is better.
Hi late to the party, could you kindly help me out if I pair apsc lens with full frame boy in low light situation will full frame perform better in terms of noise? No pixel peaking. I'm considering about Sony 70-350mm for light weight and budget options. Thanks in advance 😅
But how does it look on FF sensors without the apsc mode on? Is it like the Sony 10-18 F4 that you can basically use on FF as well despite it being an apsc lens?
Great vid thanks! Subbed.
Full frame is better in any case no further discussion... medium format is better than FF for sure... question only price...
6700 is good only if can’t afford full frame?
No dual card slot😂 these days people are spoilt! Try doing weddings on film with no preview and no dual film cameras. That’s what photographers had to do and I’m glad, it taught me a lot. Mind you, I’ve still to find someone who has lost an important shoot because of card failure, the other 99% of you don’t need it anyway. I often come home with less than 20 photos taken because I was taught to make every picture count. It’s not hard to get a good pic by firing off 20 fps shutters.
I really enjoy this video, i have an a6000 with some apsc lenses, and i don't know if upgrade with a6700 or a7c2.. i could use my lens on a7c2 in apsc mode to start, but i don't if quality will go down too much
WOW! What a timely video. I was just thinking about this comparison. I just bought the a7Cii for video & backup, as well as, my travel camera to my main a7RV. A few things to note about the A7Cii: IMO, the aesthetics on the A7Cii (silver) is really nice, Sony added the "AI" processing that greatly helps AWB which improves colors & skin tones (A7iv skin tones aren't as good).
A7CII is a great choice :) I really like that camera, and as you said it's like the a7iv but better. The only thing is lack of 2 sd cards, and some poeple don't like the smaller VF. But I like the small body, and the aesthetics is really nice indeed!
Great video my friend - super original!! Couple things you missed is A7Cii has S-Cinetone which is an amazing picture profile, also shoots in 6K downsampled to very sharp 4K video due to its 33mp resolution. Also the new AI chip has that auto-framing feature that can follow you around like a cameraman. Better in low-light too. Can add LUTS easily and an amazing new menu ! Love your style!!!!! 📸
Which one do you prefer? 🤔
The A7CR given the choice. But lacking that it really depends. If the buyer owns no glass then the Cii, start in FF. If the owner owns crop glass just go for the 6700.
@@POVwithRC yea but the a6700 is a powerhouse imo, I really like it for filming and also for photography tbh
a6700. it got me back into photography and i freaking love everything about it. its so good. also the crop factor helps with wildlife ;)
For travel A6700 because I travel with a zoom, and the APSC zooms are smaller. For everything else A7C (mark one, I don't have the mark ii).
Yesterday just got the a6700 (upgrading from zve10) to make cooking videos and have fun with the 60fps and 120fps in 4k. Found your channel recently and just can not stop wachin your videos, such great quality!!!
Upgraded to the old(!) A7C and I'm loving it. Rocked APSC 8 years, and I msut say the difference is VAST.
I was always convinced the difference is minimal and at the end of the day, a good photo is not determined by the sensor size.
Still I made the jump out of curiosity, going into FF knowing full well that its not much different -> Just like your comparison pictures show, they are VERY similiar.
-> I was very happy to find out, that the FF offers MUCH better image quality. I had the Sigma 1.4 primes on APSC and switched to cheaper Samyang 1.8 primes on FF and it is vastly sharper. I now understand when reviewers talk about "sharpest lens ever", cause now I can actually see differences in lenses. Added that the LOW LIGHT performance is much more than 1-stop which is always mentioned. ISO25600 looks better than ISO6400 on my A6000. This can't really be seen on a compressed TH-cam video.
That said, I think a lot of this also comes from newer sensor technology and not just APSC vs FF. Still, the a6400 had the very same IQ as the a6000. Didn't properly try the a6700 which now has BSI sensor, BUT had back to back test with it, which still looked the same. Add the fact that the a6700 actually costs 400 bucks more than an A7C. Also no weight/size advantage.
Yeah as much as I and everyone else roots for the differences to be minimal, I went from the a6600 to a7iv and the difference feels huge. I will say the extra battery life of the apsc is one advantage I really miss.
@@jumpmansz agree, while I still preach that APSC is more than enough, I now tell them that there is a noticable difference.
Had the opposite experience with the battery, cause I came from the bad FW batteries to the FZ batteries
Great comparison.. what about the heating issue faced by 6700 users ?
i have not had any problem with that, but I do live in a really cold place
This video made my life more difficult :) .. (not in a bad way) .. I'm a life long Pentax user (this means I am in my mid 50s). As I am getting older, I am getting more sore, and want to lighten my load when hiking, walking, etc... My Pentax K-3 iii has been a dream camera but it is also heavy .. Since Pentax jumped out of the mirrorless game after the K-01 I am left with no choice but to change my ecosystem (and it will NOT be canon). Budget is important, but not a deal breaker (well, there "is" a budget, because if not I'd go with the Hasselblad X2D. Video is obviously NOT a concern for me). The A66700 just looks to be the more economical choice, but after owning the Pentax K-1 ii, I am a sucker for a big sensor, and I'm still hurting from buying lenses that can handle the full frame sensor.
I fired up a few camera outlets, and will do some math shopping to figure out what I can get with out catching my wallet on fire.
Thank you for the video, great job with the side by side images and video.
The grip differs between those two more than I thought: I had an a6700 for some time and wanted to switch to a7cII. Only to notice that they reduced the grip size. My smallish hands could hold the a6700 well. The a7cii however is built for about 1 to 1.5 cm shorter fingers. Why didn't they just keep the a6700 grip 😒
I have my eyes on the A6700. Do you experience any overheating issues when filming?
I don't plan to shoot anything crazy. I don't need 10 bit color and I don't need 4k 60.
Love your videos!
I want one lens, and the 16-55mm 2.8 g for apsc sonys is what I'm picking, nothing in that range for full frame, otherwise I'd jump on the a7cii in a heart beat.
a6700 seems like the perfect camera for me and for my upcoming trip to a hot country. However, the overheating is a major problem and the fx30 is just too expensive.
I think you overthink it, the overheating will happen if you film video at high resolution and fps (from my understanding i can be wrong) for a long period of time unless you do that i don't think overheating will be an issue at all.
@@theo_mande from my understanding, a6700 will overheat in a few minutes especially in hot weather. Solution to minimize it will be to add an external fan.
Very good video 👏🏻
Great Video
I love you attitude, my friend!
No mention of the overheating issues on the a6700? Have they been addressed in a recent firmware update?
Too bad you can't test them in the cold weather. Great video, love your humor. Keep it up.
Glad you like them!
Both are beasts depending on your type of shooting! Love my a6700 though 😅
Great comparison and video as always my friend :)
For "normies" the A6700 would be always the better choice I guess. Sure full frame gives you better low light performance and more bokeh, but normal people usually don't take a lot of pictures as soon the sun goes down. Most of them disapear behind some screens or settle down on a couch in front of a screen instead of taking pictures in the dark :D
It's only camera nerds like us, who think they "need" full frame for xyz - and I fall victim to this myself :')
APSc in general can rival full frame even in looks, if you have the correct lens (like f1.2 which would also be big). And people do find APSc might be enough, I mean look at Fujifilm sales :)
Thank you man ☺️ yea Fuji are selling tons of apsc, I even want one 😂 but yea most hobbiests will be good with Sony apsc imo too
even apsc f1.2 lenses are much smaller than full frame equivalents. fujifilm F1 lenses are about the same sizes as their full frame F1.4 equivalents. I think APSC can totally be a better choice for anyone looking to bring their cameras everywhere with them.
Super explanation
Thank you 🙂
What versatile lens is good for the a7cii !
Sony or sigma 24-70 f2.8 👌🏻
Is there anything you can say about a6700 overheating? That is the only reason stops me from buying it
yes, a6700 has overheating, and A7CII no. I will buy to Sony A7CII
I have used A6700 since release and shoot video often with it. It never overheats on me after the first firmware update which came out within a month after release. I shoot short clips 4K24p and some 4K60p/120 in between if needed. I live in Thailand and if you are not sure it's really really really hot here and we only get like a week of winter in a year. If you plan to shoot long form video 4K60p or 120p then dont buy this one. If you are shooting 4k24p....dont worry about the overheat issue. It goes well above 1.30-2 hours and the battery might even die first.
In the end, shooting 50mm f1.4 on FF just cannot be done on APS-c due to lenses not being at stupidly wide apertures. Its really about the lenses and depth of field you can get for each format. If you are in the aperture range that they both do, matched to relative aperture, then there isnt really much difference. Overall FF just looks amazing. Its like easier to get unreal results. APS-C can help in low light when you do not want shallow depth of field because it wont give you that at the same exact aperture for the FOV. So, the math is easy to understand. In the end, the FF usually do everything better, but the cost of the lenses may be more. Also, the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 is the deal of the century, so go FF.
A6700 vs canon r8 para video???
With APS-c you can fit a 18-50 F2.8, a 70-350mm and a 13mm F1.4 all into a small messenger bag that weighs less than 2KG, you are spoilt for choice when it comes to glass you can easily take with you unencumbered.
You can blow up the pictures to about the size of a 70" TV before noticing any loss of IQ and blow out backgrounds with F0.95 glass if you wish. So when you show literally anyone your pictures they not only can't tell, but they also don't give a shit if you spend 3 times the amount on Full Frame glass.
I liked the accent!
26 megapixels??? Is all other information in that video of the same quality??
For most of us 6700 would be better.
It’s really good 😊
Thanks very much indeed
Great super helpful video.
Just trying to decide whether to upgrade my A6400 to an A6700 ?
Umm 🤔
I did. Mainly for the video features. Auto focus, slog-3, 10 bit 422, and the 4k 120 is a huge jump from the 6400. And the 6700 has ibis.
Wondering if this is the upgrade for me too, I shoot clubs and beginning to get into concerts. Low light performance is important to me. Is the 6700 good enough or will it still lag far behind the A7 IV/ AC2 ?
@@Vic-cn4fe it’ll always lack behind full frame because aps-c just can’t absorb as much light per pixel. But if you have a wide aperture lens, 2.8 or wider, then it does very well in low light. I filled outside at night with just street lights and building signs and there was no noticeable noise.
Right is a7c ii and left is a6700
I really couldnt tell them apart, save from the shallow dof i wouldnt have known.
had this argument for months.. went with the ac7ii..
It’s great ☺️
@@thaticelandicguy the dynamic range on this sensor is really impressive. Paired it up with sigma 24-70 art... that's a spicey meatball!! lol