Worlds 2021 Play-In Predictions and Preview - Summoning Insight S4E21 (feat. Nymaera and Sheepy)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Summoning Insight is the premier League of Legends esports talk show and podcast.
Join MonteCristo and Thorin with guests Alex "Nymaera" Hapgood, LJL caster and analyst, and Fabian "Sheepy" Mallant, head coach of Unicorns of Love, as they discuss the 2021 Worlds Play-In stage, the Worlds meta, DetonatioN FocusMe, Unicorns of Love, the state of scrims in Iceland, and more.
Summoning Insight will be increasing the frequency of shows during the 2021 League of Legends World Championship, so be sure to catch the show live on the Insight on Esports Twitch channel.
This episode was filmed on September 29th, 2021.
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0:00:00 - Worlds Pick 'ems and format
0:12:11 - Rekkles and Bjergsen roster news
0:35:37 - Nymaera intro + DFM's win conditions
0:54:40 - DFM's chances of reaching the Main Event
1:05:09 - Nyamera's predictions
1:11:46 - Worlds meta + DFM comms
1:28:01 - Sheepy intro + UOL discussion
1:36:59 - Sheepy's read on the Worlds meta
1:43:00 - Who gets Sheepy's scrim bucks?
1:55:36 - Thoughts on Play-Ins Group B
2:01:43 - Return of Vizicsacsi
2:07:02 - Making adjustments during Worlds
2:12:20 - Worlds bootcamp conditions + Blue Lagoon
2:20:10 - CSPPA or submarine screen door?
2:21:02 - Path from college to LCS org owner
2:24:14 - Riot shuffling the Worlds meta
2:26:00 - What years were NA/EU strongest at Worlds?
2:27:04 - Most meta dependent team this year
2:28:16 - What experiences shaped your current views and skill set?
2:34:00 - Potential for international tournament in Spring?
2:37:13 - Worlds documentary
2:40:09 - Full Korean roster in the LCS
2:42:24 - What teams do you enjoy watching the most?
2:43:35 - Which bands best represent the teams at Worlds?
2:48:47 - Thoughts on the "Legends" system for CS majors
2:50:20 - Future of Rally and Grogcoin
2:53:09 - Thoughts on negligent "leakers"
2:54:43 - What is the closest you have come to leaving the industry?
3:01:42 - Favorite axioms
#LoLWorlds
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It was a pleasure to be invited back! Especially around the larger international events it's good to be able to share some of the more important narratives around the smaller teams that have real chances to land significant results, so credit to Thorin and Monte for reaching out once again, it's much appreciated.
Always good to see you on these shows!
Do you have any of your own podcasts/streams? I would love to listen to more content featuring you!
Love seeing you! I hope DFM makes it out, want to see you again.
@@Dardobul I do indeed, weekly podcast on the LJL, and I stream on nymaera_ on twitch when I have time!
I need to see more of you!!!
Nymeria is consistently a great guest on all the shows I've seen him on, would be happy to see more of him
wouldn't mind him in another major region, has more personality than a lot of other folk in the scene
The LJL is overhyped to be honest but the show was pretty interesting.
If he hasn't drunken himself into an early death celebrating DFM making it to Worlds.
sheepy “guys my wife is giving birth right now I really have to go”
monte “yo that’s crazy but u have 100 scrim bucks left”
Lmaoooo made my day sir
I'd love to see Thorin and Monte do a 1+ hour video on what they think the tournament format should be worlds, even broken down on a spreadsheet. And also maybe add how that fits into the ideal schedule of the entire regular season globally for league. Maybe just worlds to start with?
The real copium for C9 is actually become 3/4th team, then fight through and beat hwl and go to group c.
It’s kinda possible tbh
Sounds tight
HLE isn't that good, but C9 really has not impressed me. If they don't make it out of playins though, I will be less than thrilled.
If they do that, is it still a 50/50 shot that they end up in group A? I haven't done the math.
@@carlosrazier433 50/50 better than 0/100. That is why it is a copium lol
Finally some League of Legends content. It's been so long. I hope we also get new Crackdown and Thorin's episodes :)😊😉👍
Best time of the year for Summoning Insight.
So glad you guys are back!
Hey! Hey LCS, LEC! See that dude from the LJL? Nymaera? HIRE HIM! Like stop sittin on ya arses, dudes got fuckin talent. A bit of polish and that guy is THE NEXT big caster to add to ya lineup. Analyticly gifted, great voice, great jaw line. I want this guy to cast in the LEC for sure!
My cheekbones are classified as bladed weaponry, so I've heard
Would be an upgrade from fucking Caedrel for sure. Still tryna figure out how a subpar jungler from a bottom team ever got to cast a single game, let alone be viewed as if he's super knowledgeable
Yeah after he said that C9 is not good stylisticaly into DFM cuz zven is the strong side for them I knew he knows fucking nothing.
@@JindrichPospisil8cz DFM have played against strong side bot teams a lot regionally, and are well equipped to deal with them so I think that makes sense no? I did give the caveat that if C9 get Lucian / Nami then they probably win however!
@@AlexNymaeraHapgood The problem I have with that is that Zven is the weakest player on that team. And judging by picks c9 players are playing in soloq, they realised it themselves and zven is gonna be playing weak side.
As a Rekkles fan boy it was good to hear the cultural influence on why he can be a bit stubborn. Thoorin is just watching this whole thing from his crystal ball. Great video.
Thank you so much for this content!!!!
I am so happy to see MonteCristo again. You were the best commentator, we lost something when you quit.
Monte and Doa to this day are my favorite casting duo, they were fantastic.
Nymeria is such a wonderful guest. I love to hear him talk
Wow i can't wait to see it
Why apologise? Play-in's is a fiesta and that's why I love it.
you're a fiesta.
Exactly lol, I know monte and thorin always say "I just want to watch the best games possible", I mean I understand and respect that, but i kinda dont lol, I want entertaining games, I dont care who plays and how good/bad the gameplay is. Not to say that bad gameplay is a fun gameplay cause its not, we have LCS that proves that.
@@kellifu112 Do you think your viewpoint is problematic at all? It's a competitive game, so naturally the end of the year 'best teams' tournament should have the best teams... If you take your opinion and apply it to the ranked ladder you also run into problems as well.
@@iRiDiKi How can a viewpoint be problematic?
@@kellifu112 but if you just want entertaining games you can just watch random bronze games
Love this podcast
The return of Bjergsen, who cares? Nymaera is back Baby!! Love this guy, he a joy to listen to!
Love the show. ☺
Phreak is just straight unrailed dude is cracked
The biggest change I think worlds should make is follow their play-in stage format for the 2nd and 3rd seed in the group. Give the 1st seeds in the groups an automatic pass to quarters and make the 2 and 3 seeds do a Bo3 or Bo5 for a position in quarters. It’ll give the good teams a better chance to qualify for the final stretch. Some teams that go 3-3 are potentially better than the 2 seed if given the chance since there is some cheese factor in Bo1
Oh, that sounds pretty interesting actually.
I think maybe Bo3 to not bloat the number of games too much but yeah, that's a really interesting idea. I would personally consider it an improvement.
I'd rather a loser's bracket similar to TI tbh
Looking forward to Thooorin's new series "Career colonoscopy"
I LOVE IT 😂😂😂 The strength to my boar lol
i agree with thorim saying teams and team synergy are way more important than players. you see this constantly with teams that have no "super stars" and yet do very well and then you see the supposed super stars that change teams and they do squat
Swordart is the magikarp the guy sells you at mt. moon :(
It's like he would be selling a level 100 magikarp.
Yo Thoorin, MidBeast totally loves your content. He was talking about you while watching the boot camps. He watched you so long ago he downloaded your podcasts to his mp3.
Riot purposely puts wild card regions into a shit format because they know that if they were given any chance to actually gain meaningful experience, home region NA would go from 4th best region to maybe 6th.
yeah exactly which two regions would you say are better?
@@pskfry PCS is already better than NA
@@Nebrophonus93 how's that? PCS #2 seed did not get out of playins. NA #3 seed did. sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@@pskfry As of now, none, which is my point. Maybe I was hasty in saying NA would fall behind other regions, but as of now NA teams constantly split games with teams from wild card regions despite the NA team having every conceivable advantage.
I say the format is shit because if there was a circuit system like in Dota, csgo or other esports, it's not inconceivable that with constant exposure and chances to compete to internationally instead of just once or twice a year, other regions could actually level up and send teams capable of putting up strong performances at Worlds. It's happened in other esports, but it doesn't in LoL for a specific Riot-designed reason. Fuck, maybe even the NA teams could actually get better as well if there were more international competitions instead of dicking around with eachother in LCS.
It took years of development for LJL to finally get a team into group stage at Worlds, now imagine if this DFM team had multiple chances to play internationally instead of having to wait 6+ months for their next shot at an international competition next year, if the team even stays together and their stars aren't immediately poached after Worlds.
Drive to Survive was my in to F1 as well. For racing, I previously only followed the MotoGP loosely.
G2 Doublelift would be the funniest possible free agent outcome, and yet I would unironically be transfixed on it. Like sure, if that kinda nonsense did happen there's a great chance DL is washed and it doesn't go well for either side. But also, just imagine DL getting his first real Worlds success on an EU team, and specifically the EU team that beat the best team he's ever been on, at the highest point they ever reached. It's delicious, and now I want it.
Didn't OG win a TI from the very bottom play in qualifier aswell???
They won both coming through open qualifiers
Just give an additional two seats to each major region and have them duke it out in a proper pre tournament qualifiers.
What did Riot do now that they are talking about in the beginning of the video?? I don't follow social media or reddit at all so I missed it I guess.
LPL is a "Cemetary gate" as none gonna leave alive this year :D
Thorin is just not true about Tarzan not speaking Chinese and only played with brain. Tarzan already spoke 100% fluent Chinese after few months into LPL. He is willing to learn and learns the language very fast. He doesn't need people to translate the questions in his LPL interviews for a while already
COPIUM
What a fucking lie. You cant be fluent in mandarin in just a few months. You need to practice for years and also live there for a few more years just to consider yourself able to make a daily conversation just like a local would.
the only take away from this is, WORLDS HOT TUB STREAM! Actually printing money!!
godsmack alphari - "i stand alone"
How can I get into the Thooorin discord?
discord.gg/rDKxKfM
The last story is the same as the Illiad, "do you chose Athena's wisdom, Hera's riches, or Aphrodite and the most gorgeous woman in the world"
Where's my promised LPL episode :(
I'll have you know that nu metal is still around and kicking. Nu nu metal (and hardcore) has some solid independent representation with the likes of Rise of the Northstar and Bloodywood!
Also, original nu metal is underappreciated all things considered. It got too popular too quickly and as such people got sick of it, but in turn they also underrated it.
It’s a lot better if you forget the music videos that haven’t aged well I find.
@@AlexNymaeraHapgood To be honest I feel like most music videos have aged poorly, but those do take the cake heh. Musically it's all good fun, tho.
@@drago939393 For sure! Nu-Metal was significant for that era when the rock / rap crowds were pretty opposed on the whole too, that can be forgotten sometimes. Musically it's more impressive on the production side of things over the technicality - you don't get hair-metal noodling solos from numetal after all - but the mixing / mastering side of things in that genre is typically top class.
Kinda have a question I doubt they answer. Specifically thorin. If you had to get a NA team to the point they could compete to win worlds, what would you do?
import the whole MAD lions roster
You can literally just throw them in another region and they'll improve to the same level as that region
Edit: lol 30 minutes after I make this comment I hear monte make the exact same point. NA has talented players. They just don't get the same level of competition that other leagues provide, especially lpl with the massive competitive player base and depth of the competitive league
@@emceemikey That's a lazy answer though. EU was also like this for years. So there is other ways to fix a region that is proven by EU's rise to power they had.
I hear these 2 both talk about how bad na is and yet say how bad na teams mess things up. So I want to know how they'd fix this
@@nicholashowie4707 you're asking a different question now. Your first question was "get an na team to win worlds" which is really as simple as dumping c9 in China and making occasional roster swaps. How to improve the region as a whole is way way harder, because you have to market to a demographic that heavily prefers CSGO and cod, like it's tragic how small the na player base is. We're on the level of Vietnam and Brazil for crying out loud. You can't really force a market to play a game they aren't interested in so na is kind of screwed in that regard. As for the competitiveness of the region, I think sponsors are helping this a bit with like grassroots tournaments like the red bull thing going on right now. Ultimately it still just comes down to the fact that Europe and Korea have more than double the active competitive player base na does and I don't think you can fix that without devoting your entire marketing budget toward getting na players. If na wanted to compete with the top dogs without imports it would need to be at the point where it has a sizeable population on two servers, one for each coast
@@emceemikey I suppose that's true, however I also see na players as being simply lazier then Chinese and a European players being the real biggest issue. Keep in mind I'm a t1 fan from a whole other game. With that in mind if you were to watch the episode of tsm legends after their first playoff game. You'd see bjergsen the coach at the time, practiced the second most in the team. If this had been any other region or sport most would gave list their jobs fir that. Here in NA we seem to almost let them get away with it. This isn't the only example of this either. Plenty of imports that come here have said the same whether it was attitude or work ethic na players seem simply lazy. I think when a coach and a org motivates a team to work their hardest we tend to see na as a whole improve. As much as these two would like to ignore it or play it off like their was no chance for na ever at worlds this hasn't always been true. Back when tsm came 1 game from worlds quarters it was because of one in game mistake in a time when many of the other major regions expressed words just short of fear of tsm. This happened again when c9 surprised and made semis at worlds. While at that time analysts played them making it that far as pure luck it did happen and many of Korea's players said they were not to be underestimated. In short a million excuses can be why a na team can't win worlds or even as a region compete there, but this simply isn't true. While you may be led to believe na's player base has been getting smaller this also isn't true, if you look at the numbers they rose since 2016. While I agree being able to rise to a lcs team is hard in na it's hard on any professional setting like this. The player base even got huge in the last year with the merge of oce to na as residents.
i remember the dl's crypto being stolen, he talked about it on stream a long time ago.
he got phished or something via his email or sms, i think.
I remember when he talked about this on stream. It was a sim card swap. The hacker called his phone carrier. pretended to be him, and got his phone number switched to a sim card the hacker had. Using DL's phone number, he then gained access to DL's coinbase account.
Interesting idea to invite Joe Ingram to a League pod
Where are the actual predictions though?
I don’t really think they can do much to the format unless they make a Worlds season. Start off with the traditional format to select the teams of the season. Have them do a worlds season and use spring and summer splits + MSI and another tournament to compete for relegation of that worlds season.
I think gsl groups are a comparable number of games but a better format.
Cloud9 is breaking Benjamin and their leader is afraid of airplanes
Happened with TPA way back....
This is the 2nd time rekkles left fnatic so I would hope they wouldn't take him back. To address Thorin's point about reddit too is that you don't just get 1 vote in a comment string, you get multiple votes. So the game theory of it means 1 person can alter how votes are seen way too easily. If you upvote 1 and downvote another, that's a big difference than if you downvote the first and upvote the second. This is why reddit's voting is highly flawed.
No chance Fnatic takes him back. They don't have Steelback, they got Upset who's pretty much the top ADC along with Hans and Carzzy in the West.
2:43:35
I feel like comparing minor region stats, where most teams attending worlds shit stomp their regions, to global/major region stats is disingenuous at best. Of course a team shitting on random scrubs is going to have better stats that the top LCK and LPL teams even the tier 2 regions like LEC and LCS are gonna have better average competition than these tier 3 regions. It's cool to hear about these teams and what they can do but it's not a convincing argument to say that badly they stomp and crush their regional competition so they will be able to hold their own against tier 1 & 2 teams. If a diamond player smurfs in bronze and crushes the competition, it doesn't mean he can compete at a challenger level. Not saying DFM or other teams don't have a solid chance against teams like C9 or Beyond gaming but the fact that they dominate their local competition does the opposite of convince me, it makes me think they are used to easily crushing their opponents and getting huge leads from simply being better which is almost never the case at international competition. (just look at the NA first seed curse)
To extend your Diamond vs Bronze analogy: A Diamond player in a Bronze game can get away with many mistakes, sub-optimal plays or weird decisions. They can't get away with that against other Diamonds - or especially Challengers.
DFM has had a solid track record but unfortunately they get to play so rarely outside of their region due to Riot's garbage system that it ultimately means nothing (sample size is too low and far apart).
@@drago939393 you say that but isn't DFM good because they get to scrim KR teams? I know you mean proper games but scrimming them has to bring some benifit.
@@joxayah5136 It does, it's better practice. But they're not actual competitive games, tho.
Lorna Shore - To the Hellfire FPX
It was a mistak for Rekkles to go to G2 anyway they were already going downhill. I hope he doesn't go to NA would be a waste.
BDS is from Switzerland, not Belgium close enough I guess
Partly speaks French, partly speaks Germanic language. Close enough.
i think the top 2 teams of every region should automatically qualify for the group stage. For group draws there should be no region restrictions with respect to placing teams into groups. ie. your nationality should not determine which group your in. Then the teams that place 3rd-5th in the regions should be placed into the playins. The playins should not have groups but it should be a case of each team playin against each other team. The teams with the most wins at the end advance and ties are broken by best of 3s.
Essentially a large playin pool and a streamlined group stage.
Plus they could those matches simultaneously, no need to stream old one game just the Champions League
Wait tarzan can already speak fluent chinese tho
If you watch all the G2 mic checks with the player comms, Rekkless is always the one not smiling or goofing around just weird.
Not aways but yea.
“Pawn shop”
Bjerg coming back was the biggest "meh" announcement for me. Esp. in the wake of all the NA broadcast talent tagging other ex pros asking when they're coming back. It just cheapened any sort of excitement I might have conjured up
Leave it to NA to make things boring. Tho, indeed, Bjerg returning to TSM of all teas is beyond boring.
So this man just told me, Fudge is gonna get rocked? hmm
rough day 1 for uol
People are being a little harsh on c9 lol. I get group B is risky but they are still clear favorites. Chill people.
C9 got downplayed a ton in these interviews and it is interesting watching the actual games play out and see that they seem to be a cut above the rest of these teams. Listening to analysts and coaches from wildcard regions talk about how they expect their teams to beat the 3rd seed from NA is very similar to listening to NA analysts and coaches talk about how they expect their teams to beat LPL 3 seeds or LCK 2 seeds... it just seems like a false sense of bravado. Not to say that sheepy and Nymaera aren't being 100% genuine and aren't awesome guests, but I feel like wildcard regions beating NA teams, in general, is an incredibly overblown narrative compared to how often it actually happens.
Sinse you came back to the video i come back and say DFM beat C9 in a good facion. So its not a falce hope. And C9 did lost to UOL which is just a thing an NA team will make. PS. If you watched LCS you know C9 played worse there then they did at worlds so far. Mainly Perkz and Blaber performed but they all choked in the last 2 games.
@@stefankatsarov5806 True. I still think the stats dont pan out in wildcard teams favor historically, and C9 could still win their b05 and have a good record still, but they definitely didnt play well on the last day.
@@stefankatsarov5806 after watching the games today im still not convinced that these teams are on any major region's level lmao
I would actually love if Ocelote imports DL. Don't think he will unretire but always wanted to see him in a better region
Tbh i dont think DL is good enough for a top team in LEC. Especially after retiring.
They got hard gapped vs Rekkles and Hyli last year's worlds.
And the adc talent pool in europe is quite high imo.
@@piperfree4271 Doublelift is checked out unfortunately. I think Neo or Danny would be super sick in LEC.
I honestly wouldnt wanna see him in G2 before proving that he is actually motivated, cause he's generally done a pretty bad job at that in the past 2 years.
Okay I don't get this: Thorin's ideal tournament to decide the best team is literally just that china vs Korea tournament they do before spring every year. Why is it so bad to have a tournament where people can root for their home teams? Why does Jamaica have a freaking bobsled team? I already prefer msi format as each region has a single seed, that feels a lot more fair to me and exciting because we get to see stuff like psg in top 4. That can't happen when the top 4 is glutted with China and Korea and European second and third seeds.
He's said pretty often his preference is just for "the highest level of competition". That's just what he values most. If you value "regional representation" more, that's fine, you'll want a format that selects for that.
But it's also true Worlds has a tournament format that doesn't actually select for the highest level of competition, so he of course would prefer a different format if that's what he cares most about.
@@LikeACrouton I get that that's an opinion, but from what I can tell from his comments in this video he legit would believe that the winner of the eastern rift rivals tournament is the actual world championship. The format he wants already exists.
TSM would of been Limp Bizkit
what joke from riot are they talking about in the beginning?
a tweet riot accidentally put that said that, wasnt a joke just a mistake
@@haitharu well yeah. But what was the joke
@@zentrix4161 yea i thought it could be. then again they have lots of korean players so no idea xd
@@zentrix4161 there was a comment made about the playin stage referring to it as a "fiesta" which is spanish for party. Basically the tweet trivialised the importance of the playin stage; making it seem that it was just some "fun" competition and not important to World's. It is also troubling because it could be seen as an insult to top tier teams from the lck and lpl who are forced to climb through playins due to the structure that Riot put in place for World's.
The joke was distasteful for Riot which needs to remember that it is a business and the Worlds is a championship competition like FIFA world cup or Cricket World cup or rugby ..etc... u get the drift
@@makaidiy5716 thank you for the explanation. I’m not often on Twitter so I missed that
The hard forcing of the scrim bucks question was cringe
Yeah, after DWG he probably should have dropped the hypothetical and just tried to get a feel of where the other teams were at.
Well the DFM comments aged well... Better than perkz you say??
Haha they indeed did
Thorin, your accent is brillant !
well dfm got clowned on by clown9 so the LJL caster was quite off
And then they clowned them when it mattered and won the group lol
g2 is linkin park cause chester bennington (perkz) died and their first two albums (msi and worlds 2019) were the best ones
ok they just called c9 linkin park meh g2 fits better imo
Im not a Rekkles fan but i feel sorry for the guy. He left Fnatic twice and both times it failed. He got spanked by G2 for years denying him trophies
Love this show, but every time I hear Monte completely agree with whatever Thoorin says I remember when Thoorin took shots at LS for having Nemesis and all his guests just agree with what LS says lol
Tbf monte and thoorin are cohosts and very similar that’s why they get along so they do agree a lot but they did disagree a lot more in older Summoning Insight Videos.
But they also disagree with the guests a lot for the most part. With LS it’s similar with him and nemesis but the guests on his shows also agree with a lot more than on summoning insight. And I’m saying that as a fan of both SI more than Ls
@@xiaoxin2859 Yeah... I see what you're saying but I would definitly argue that, for the most part, SI guests/cohosts agree with most of what Thoorin says a majority of the time, just as LS's guests and cohost do.
It's also important to mention how controversial Thoorin is, and how his opinions honestly should be getting a ton of pushback more of the time, where in my opinion they typically don't.
Love Thoorin, Monte, and SI, but I don't think it's even remotely fair to critisize LS's show for the "constant agreement" when there is, at minimum, a comparable level of agreement on SI. It's just a bit hypocrticial imo. This isn't a huge issue for me or anything, it's just something that I think is kind of funny/ironic.
Thoorin GM in tsm would be the best twist. :)
The ping is the issue. you can't get good when you can't do combos be the lag won't allow it. It discourages players and they stop playing. Less players, demotivated... it is the issue Monte. Fix ping and then playing to your potential is possible.
Ratio!
Thorin is acctualy right bout swedes to a degree but he misses hard when he is trying to conclude it to rekkles.
1:11:00 I really wish Faker brought out the Mid Riven more. I feel like he would have won worlds instead of playing Karma and crying
considering UOL probably loses to every team outside oce in scrims there opinion on teams being doesn't really mean shit lol.
They should cut LECs and LCS spots in the main event 2 two each.
Why should they cut lec?
Lec is just proven so much better than lcs. I'm not against cutting Lec to 2 teams, but you would have to cut lcs to 1 team at the same time if it's based on performance. They'll never do it because they would lose the American market with no American exceptionalism but there we are
@@castlefox1834 LCK wins worlds. LEC has not. Using 3 years still does not make LEC look better. LEC should def lose a seed. Only regions that win worlds should get 3+ seeds. Every garbage should drop down to 2 or less.
@@castlefox1834 EU fans have to bring 3years ago KEKW just like faker fans
Like they have? Rogue were gonna be in play-ins if not for VN being unable to attend. GENG had the exact same thing happen last year.
Poor G2, wasn't able to go worlds because of this garbage ADC player. Glad they got rid of it.
Anyway, will see Rekkless in a chinese team next year, which will pay him more in a day than FNC or G2 paid him combined for his entire career.
chinese teams hiring western players? wont communication be an issue?
@@haitharu no sure yet. Rekkless said he wants to play in LPL. and he is welcoming in China. G2 wants to give up him
@@haitharu but he needs to speak Chinese
Imagine watching league lmao
Im a fnatic fan.
And was a hardcore rekkles fan until he left.
How bout actually makes him join the podcast instead of just talking trash.
Since you already have talked too most of the other "All-Stars".
Thats something ive waited for forever, instead trash talk for whatever reason which is justified here and there.
Bring him on! And just say if he or org said "no"... beating a dead horse i boring, beat the active horses
No fucking way reckless would come on this show lol
I’d love to see it though
I think it’s time to hang up the league talk you just have no idea what you are talking about