EON Super 64 Nintendo 64 HDMI Adapter Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2019
- It's time to Review The EON Super 64. This is the latest product in the EON catalogue of HDMI plug-and-play adapters. It offers a complete plug-and-play solution intended for use with the original Nintendo 64 console (NTSC, NTSC-J). It's time to give my honest opinion and tell you if it's worth buying. Let's get into my Review of the EON Super 64.
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I did not come to ReviewtechUSA to see Rich reviewing technology in the United States.
When Rich actually reviews tech
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Woah, put your seatbelts on! ReviewTechUSA is reviewing Tech in the USA!!! :O
I was so sad when you said “This video today is sponsored by- RIDGE.com” What happened to Cutting Edge Gamer?
Cutting edge gamer stopped CUTTING THOSE CHECKS!!! 🤨
Rich is selling his cucuber to thr highest bidder.
You were the chosen one cutting edge gamer you were supposed to write checks not cut them into tiny pieces I HATE YOU
Still in the description. We’re good.
It's still there in the description. Guess you can't just pitch the same product/service all the time.
Is this device compatible with Cutting Edge Gamer?
If Nintendo used Cutting Edge Gamer for their consoles, we wouldn't have this problem.
@Hannibal Freak I respectfully disagree... The video has failed for not being sponsored by The great cutting Edge.😔😪 Hopefully this is an outlier.
What am I watching? A Review? Of Tech? From the USA? I came here for gaming news... 😂
Cutting Edge Gamer graphics cards NEVER stop coming on this channel 🤣
Hannibal Freak read the description. It’s there.
Wow $150?! I'll just wait for the going out of business sale to get one
Lol if you think they are going to go out of business you are wrong.. Retro gamers are some of the most hardcore people out there when it comes to spending money.
@@dirozx CORRECT
I'd say $80 would be a decent price but $150 no to pricey
That price tag is absolutely ridiculous. I could see $50 at most of this thing. It's just a peripheral and it's even more money than buying a Nintendo 64 off ebay. lol
The only thing for near $50 that I know of which is any good is the Hyperkin HDMI adapter for Nintendo systems, and it's definitely not as good, and seems to have more issues with quality and sound with some units, though the one I have works fine, though I have little intention to actually use it anymore since a friend gave me an RGB modded N64 with a RAD2X to go with it.
Unfortunately, there just aren't any really good low latency HDMI adapters for these older sub 480p consoles which aren't expensive. That being said, the Retrotink 2x mini with an S-video cable would be a much better option than the EON, and is still a lot cheaper, or at least it was when it was still in production and still easy to find. However, the 2x mini is itself still very expensive for what it does, especially because it doesn't have a component video input or any kind of RGB input. I think they went for around 70 or 80 USD plus shipping.
The Retrotink 2X Classic for 100 USD (which does have component video inputs) was probably the best alternative to this, though you would also need a component cable to make the best use of it, and the Retrotink 2X Classic is also not available anymore, and has been replaced by the more expensive Retrotink 2X Pro, which is 140 USD plus shipping!
An RGB modded N64 combined with the RAD2X Nintendo adapter (which uses Retrotink chips inside of it) is probably the best option for someone who's willing to pay good money, and I would highly recommend this over the EON 64. Once the RGB mod is done, it's just as simple to use as the EON 64, as there's no need for additional power cables, SCART cables, or component cables, and you'd be getting a better picture than the EON 64, and a superior deblur option as well. When used with the N64's RGB signal, the RAD2X gives you a similar quality of picture to using an HDMI mod, though there are far fewer features, unless you go with one of the more expensive RGB mods. The RAD2X will also still use a composite signal if there's no RGB signal available, and does a good job of that too. The RAD2X is 50 GBP plus shipping from the UK based online store which sells them (60 GBP including VAT for domestic customers).
I heard very good things about this, but that price is still pretty high, I can find 3 or 4 Nintendo 64s for that price lol
SCJ *_I could probably find like, 5 or 6 at that price, but they wouldn’t be hooked up through HDMI._*
I actually bought a Retro Access S-Video cable and a Retrotink for that price.
@@dionr1168 and you have to mod it
Just buy a nintendo GameCube or 2ds xl lol
Its actually really good
But no where near the monster that is Cutting Edge Gamer
Facts!!! 👍💪
Ya because you can get a rtx 2080ti with cutting edge gamer
The cringe is real.
Personally I'm not a fan of smoothing. I love my pure pixels. Removing the smoothing was actually a special feature for Doom 64.
The RAD2X also has that feature, and will do a great job of converting an RGB signal when an RGB signal is present, such as with a modded N64, most versions of the snes, some stock PAL region versions of the Gamecube, and (obviously) RGB modded versions of the Gamecube. I think some people might even have them working with some RGB modded versions of the NES.
For those like me who think it's too expensive, you can get a rad2x cable which essentially does the same thing for less than half the price. No lag, region free, rgb support, no external power, works on n64, snes and gamecube.
Yes, and you might be able to find an RGB modded N64 for not that much more than the cost of the EON, maybe even the same price, if you're lucky. If your N64 is compatible with the cheaper and easier to install RGB mod kits, it's considered easy enough that people with no soldering experience at all should be able to do it, as long as they follow instructions properly, and there are multiple tutorials online explaining how to do it. The mod kit itself is pretty cheap, like 20 USD plus shipping maybe?
An RGB modded N64 and a RAD2X are going to hold their resale value better than an EON 64 will as well.
Some consoles are not compatible with those RGB mod kits (you have to check what version of the system you have), but there are some more expensive mod kits which will work on any system, and some of those ones also have additional useful features.
You need to compare this to the Retrotink-2x! It's a $100 generic line doubler that works with component, s-video, and composite devices, and outputs HDMI. It also includes a smoothing mode that looks great for N64 games.
That's definitely a better alternative. It's WAY more versatile. If nothing else, it will hold its resale value better. Sadly, the 2X Classic is out of production and not that easy to find. The 2X Pro seems to have replaced it, and is 140 USD plus shipping. It's basically the same except that it also has an optional scanline mode, and the unit itself has a better designed enclosure too I suppose.
Arguably an even better alternative would be to RGB mod your N64, or just buy an RGB modded N64, and also a RAD2X, which will plug directly into an N64, and use the RGB signal if present (it will also do a good job of converting the composite signal if no RGB signal is present). You could probably find an RGB modded N64 for not that much more than the cost of the EON, then sell your unmodded N64, if you don't want to do the mod yourself.
Barely noticeable and certainly not worth the asking price.
RGB on a CRT is beautiful.
I can’t see any difference,probably because am watching this trough the smartphone😣
@@johneymute I'm watching in 1440p quality and there was barely any difference at all.
slik mode does look better
@@StreetfighterTips The Eon only uses S-video though, I believe. A RAD2X would be the best adapter for use with an RGB modded N64, and the cost of an RGB mod and a RAD2X would still be less than the price of the EON I think, though you'd still have to do the RGB mod yourself, which requires soldering tools, but apparently is easy enough that a beginner could do it.
You could also just buy an RGB modded N64 and sell your old unmodified one. An RGB modded N64 might not cost any more than the cost of an EON and an Unmodified N64.
My feed: N64 SUPER HDMI THINGY MAJINGY
I picked one of these up a few months ago and the picture quality is greatly sharper, cleaner and brighter with my setup than what's been translated on this video. It seems as though something got wack/lost with the capture. I already had a rad2X hooked up and it was close but wasn't as clean, and the big issue with me was the rad2X had more imput lag.
Get a Retrotink and an S-Video cable. You'll basically get the same image quality, but you can also use the Retrotink on other consoles. Later you can RGB mod with the deblur function, and get more or less the best quality you can get out of the N64.
* adds hdmi to vga adapter to the chain.
It will also just hold its value a lot better if you ever decide to sell it, precisely because of its versatility, and ability to work with component video. However, the 2X Classic is out of production and harder to find now, and has seemingly been replaced by the more expensive (but still very good) Retrotink 2X Pro.
The RAD2X (Nintendo version) is less versatile, and doesn't support S-video, but would be potentially an even better option, as it has great image quality when using an RGB signal with an RGB modded N64, and because it plugs directly into Nintendo multi-out ports, it eliminates the need to get a component video cable, and is also significantly cheaper than the Retrotink 2X Pro.
The RAD2X is also going to be a far superior option for use with a stock snes, because most versions of the snes will have an RGB signal, and some PAL region versions of the Gamecube also have RGB output as a standard feature, and the ones which don't can obviously also be RGB modded as well. The difference in quality with RGB vs. the other two analogue signals a snes can put out is also even bigger than the difference between the quality of the RGB signal on an N64 and the other two analogue signals that they can put out, making the RAD2X all the more valuable for use with a snes.
I like how you and MetalJesusRocks release a video talking about this at pretty much the exact time. Though MetalJesus' video is a bit different, but still features this HDMI adapter.
Over 12 TH-camrs uploaded this same video about this product at the same time Lol
Embargo just ended
Give me a list. So far I've compiled:
Adam Koralik
Reviewtechusa
Metaljesusrocks
Immortal John Hancock
RGT 85
Madlittlepixel
@@robd9921 add NintendoLife
Spawnwave incoming.
@@robd9921 rerez
Rich doing his best to not bite the hand that feeds. Playing it safe with his verdict of this adapter.
Just get S-Video cables for the N64 and connect it to a Framimister or OSSC.
Scart is better.
@@Pridetoons The problem with the N64 is that it doesn't natively support rgb, so S-video is the best image quality possible out of a stock system. You'd have to get the N64 console rgb modded to use Scart.
I agree but the ossc doesn't support s video. However the rgb mod is easy
I really don't wanna pay 150 for Eon. Its expensive
Look into the RetroTink. Can upscale s-video, composite and component to hdmi, has a smoothing option, is $50 cheaper.
N64 RGB modded + Framemeister + HDMI Gaming edition Marseille, that´s the best combination. Great video :-)
I appreciate the honesty in this video. I always worry when someone gets a 'free' item to review, that it may affect their review. That isn't to say you would but just something I wonder about, if it will sway their review.
$150 is a lot. If it were $100, I'd consider it but would still be a tough buy for me. I look forward to your review of the new item you're receiving soon to see how that works out. I'm also curious about the Hyperkin N64 clone console coming out eventually regardless of what others may think of them.
I was lucky. I got my Gamecube component cable at Gamestop back in 2012 for $4.99. The employee had no idea what it was, so they sold it to me as a “generic” cable.
Damn my feed just blew up with this thing. Was there a review embargo or something?
I'm guessing there was. I was just on Adam Koralik's channel, and he himself replied "We all have to follow embargo rules" when someone commented that he and Rich uploaded at the same time. That comment thread now is people just listing how many notifications from gaming youtubers they got.
Yes
I guess. ReviewTechUSA RGT85 and Nintendo Life all posted their videos 47 minutes ago.
Ah, I see. Thank you folks. Lot of uh, N64 fans out there, huh?
Better off getting something like a retrotink 2x. Its cheaper, can be used with any composite, component, or svideo input source and also has an equivalent slick mode. Seems like EON ripped the idea straight from the retrotink
I would love to get this. I remember when my partner bought the GameCube one they made last year at the Long Island Retro Gaming Expo. They were selling them there for 20 bucks cheaper than you can find on Amazon and my partner was the very first person to buy one from them at that convention. They're very nice guys and make great stuff. They were telling us all about the N64 one they were working on and had many GameCubes hooked up there with those HDMI adapters connected to them. Was cool seeing people compete in a Double Dash tournament against each other with those things hooked up. I even played Metroid Prime 1 with one of them. I wonder if they're gonna be selling these at this year's Long Island Retro Gaming Expo. Because I know for a fact my friend is gonna wanna buy one.
Brilliant video Rich loved it!
WOW Fantastic review Rich! This makes me look at the device with a little hope that it cuts its price eventually, hopefully. And almost makes me wanna be a suscriber again!
I bought one during quarantine on a $10 off sale with free shipping. Thanks for covering it. Can’t find your sequel video to this for the comparison to the converter box...wants a link to that vid please.
This is the first tech I’ve seen reviewed on this channel but I bought this because of your video Rich
You didn't even test for input lag? You can't tell me you didn't take that into account, so many of these converters end up causing input delay (although I know their GameCube one has negligible input delay)
Yeah it has no input lag & no need for multiple cables/plugs to scale the image. Pretty much the bigger tv you have the more worth it this is
I actually bought a cheap converter that does S-video to VGA and I connected that to my OSSC, it looks great.
Nice I actually needed this
But not for 150
Icebearangry yeah if it were like 20 bucks I’d be worth it, but I don’t care enough to get it for the full $150.
Just get the hyperkin HDMI cable that's $30
Could just play on an emulator with upscaling heh.
@GamebroTV the picture quailty is literally the same as this thing
@Lassi Kinnunen the hdmi modded N64 is like $300 after installation and not worth it at all imho.
I'm not sure why there's even a mode for anti-aliasing when the most infamous aspect of picture quality with the N64 nowadays is the excessive amounts of anti-aliasing the system already uses on 3D elements (though I can say that some people will enjoy the effect the anti-aliasing mode provides to 2D elements). I guess it's a matter of personal preference.
Back to form, eh buddy? Happy to see it.
(Edit) 150 DOLLARS? CRYING WITH LAUGHTER HERE I'D NEVER PAY THAT
You're doing a great job today, Rich. Thanks for coming in.
Very Objective and informative review, thanks Rich.
I feel like you should also be including video with S-video quality as well.. since it is very much a cheaper option as well if you only have composite
Brought to you by my finger. Which I used to swipe through your QVC video.
Great review man
Holy crap rich, you upload this today and so does every other gaming TH-camr lol. Like 4 other creators also dropped a vid on this today.
Did ReviewTechUSA just review tech?
RTG85 did a review with the MCable with the EON adapter & it shows a big difference so you need to have the MCable as well.
Slick mode means no Peach wearing sunglasses in Mario Party 1.
Oh neat, I've been wanting one of these for my GameCube, and now I can get one for my N64
You're looking GREAT, Rich!!! I would have liked to see a comparison against a modded RGB or maybe an ULTRA hdmi, but that might be a bridge too far. Great video, dough!!!
You and RGT 85 put out the same video at the same time. I’m watching yours first because I’m loyal.
rgt85 videos are cringe especially with that intro
Yousef AL-Dulaijan True. I’ve always seen him as a Knock off brand 8-Bit Eric lol
Surprised 85 knows how to use it.
I like both channels but ReviewTechUSA wins every time!
I’m sure RGT85 gave it a thumbs up because he’s just into youtube for the money and free stuff. Lol
nice review, Dickers. Thanks!
I remember Wave Race, that was a fun game.
It is, just got into the 64, and I only had wave race, I didn't think much of it, but I actually had alot of fun with it
I'd rather spend $150 to help improve N64 emulation. 8k resolution + very high accuracy + cpu overclocking... That's the future.
I was playing Diddy Kong racing on Pj64 with my n64 controller adapter and textures turnt up all the way... There is no going back lol
9K coming out next month!😉
Yeah, retro emulators have been in development for over 20 years, they perform way better then the physical retro consoles themselves. Why use a physical retro console that did not age well, when you get can a way better gaming experience with an emulator.
@@IlDeimos Exactly. Not only do emulators run better, but they can run on portable systems too. You no longer have to stay in one place to play a wide variety of home consoles. It's amazing how far emulation has come.
@@IlDeimos there is one reason why I want to game on the old N64 as opposed to emulation: multiplayer. If there was a way to do couch co-op on emulation, I would be down.
You should get you hands on an upscaler too, my brother got one and it's amazing. It messes with the colors a bit (if you've ever used a sharpness filter in a photo editor you have a decent idea what I'm talking about), so some tuning is needed, but the difference is night and day.
Kaico double line HDMI splitter is $70 and does the same thing as the eon.
Add an M classic to a kaico, and the imaging is crisp for $10 more than the EON
Theoretically should also work with GameCube, but figuring out the digital out port (officially used for YPbPr) on that system would make for some _much_ better options.
I think the company that makes this also has a GameCube adapter.
I had Cutting Edge Gamers intro memorised too
Why not just use the s video option then and save 150 bucks? I have a generic cable from my gamecube that I use on the 64 and use the s video, cost me less than 15 bucks
Hi rich , great channel mate
In the UK, England we have what's known as Scart
Much better signal then composite
N64 looks very good on Scart to hdmi adaptor
On pal 50 Hz on LG Led panel TV
So Rich and Adam Koralik review the same adaptor and release a vid at the same time??? Noiceeeee
Also MetalJesusRocks uploaded a video about this just now as well
Tony12097 this is actually spooky like damn, I just saw it now too
So did Nintendo Life
@@Maisonikkokufan Illuminati confirmed!!
They all must've been able to actually talk about the product at this exact time I guess
Tony12097 yep metaljesus and Adam told me it was about the review embargo being released and I reckon they prerecorded the review then uploaded the vid as soon as the embargo was released
I'm always caught off guard when Review Tech actually reviews tech
I just use a N64 s video cable I got off eBay on a good CRT and it looks great, and rgb scart on my other retro consoles, but I do like the beginning of these gadgets popping up to prolong the future use of retro consoles. The asking price is just too high at the moment, they need to cut that in half.
Damn you’re bringing back some good memories.
Looking forward to trying it out with the mcable
Oooh yeah
I'm here for the "Where's Cutting Edge Gamer?" comments
I love it when Rich Reviews Tech in the USA
When you get n64 s-video cables, make sure you get a good reviewed one with no dithering and that it’s s-video only. For some reason even the official cables split composite and s-video in one cable and it looks worse than third party s-video only cables.
Any in particular you would recommend?
This video is why I subscribed o you. Rich, you have over 832,000 subscribers. You could easily get free products to review from tech companies on a weekly or twice-a-week basis. MORE TECH REVIEWS IN THE USA, PLEASE!!!
I have an easy way to "fix" the slight wash-out of colour; I raise the contrast slightly.
I think the real reason why people would get this *for now* would be for the slick mode and for no input lag.
I was seriously just about to say I would by one.. and then you said $150 and I was like *nope.*
Cutting edge gamer upgraded to cutting edge ridge
What happened to cutting edge gamer? I'm one of those that upgrade his graphic cards often
Well even at $150, this is definitely a great alternative if you want to play the N64 on modern TVs as _pure_ as possible. Outside of Nintendo flat out remastering the games for the Switch, this is a great alternative.
Love your videos
So if I have the S-Video cables, they'll do just as good a job. I just saved $150.
The No Name Guy basically.
No because svideo cables on their own arent line doubling to 480p while remaining lagless. Also this adapter is really targeting people who need an hdmi solution. If all you have is a tv that lacks svideo inputs then this adapter may interest you. That said its still overpriced.
Yooo I have a ridge wallet and I've had it for 4 years! It's legit the best wallet I've ever owned. A little annoying to pull cards out if youre trying to dig one out from the middle but keep your two most used ones at the top and bottom and you're good to go.
finally a review in a review channel.
I'm not super concerned about how much better it looks, just that it can be payed on any modern tv easily. Price is WAY too high....but enthusiasts should be someone satisfied. I want it but just cant afford it right now lol
Your capture device seems to clean up composite very well-does it perform as well on other composite sources?
Cutting Edge Gamer for life! CEG Squad represent.💪
Might be a bit late, but maybe you could review the Hyperkin Wii cable on HD virtual console (if you have the games, as the service shut down,) or HDMI on the Wii U's virtual console (service still up I think.)
Emulators will always have the best quality, but it's interesting to explore your options. Rn I'm in love with the Wii Hyperkin cable for my vc, gamecube, and wii games. Looks really clean and runs on official hardware.
I have the Hyperkin cable for the N64 and, it’s passable. It’s not upscaling the games though, so you’re getting a 720p signal, but the games are still running at 240p (480 on some games with the expansion pak). I think I want the true 480p upscaling 🤷🏻♂️
I still need to try N64 S-Video with a Framemeister. I'll get back to you on that.
Slick mode is how I remember playing mario 64 as a kid lol
I've had the OG version of the EON GameCube adapter. Recently discovered this for the n64.
Jumped on it, without doing much research into other options.
Despite how pricey this is, I feel you get what you pay for, if you want to hook up retro consoles to modern hd TV's. The cheaper hyperkin cables are just all around bad.
I would honestly love have gone with the UltraHDMi mod, but at $400, the EON is honestly the next best option for hooking the N64 up via HDMI. Plug and play.
Except when the retrotink2x and rad2x exist
Yeah thats how I am these fools are just broke crying about the price. And I'm not cutting into my n64 for ultra hdmi
$50 maybe but $150 is beyond absurd
My Samsung 65" Curved display did include a cord in case you need to hook up a component input. They're not totally gone yet.
Finally, no one has put any reviews for this out yet.
Mario face was looking shiny asl I said damn myself😂
Cutting edge gamer is gonna start getting jealous
RIDGE? That's a funny way of saying *_CUTTING EDGE GAMER_*
Would love to see a review of the eon gamecube version from you Rich
so is cutting edge gamer worth it in 2019? what about their buyout option after its over?
The N64 has AA already, that's why the image is so fuzzy
I would like to see this tested on Majora's Mask, Banjo Kazooie and Conker's Bad Fur Day
I think it's unfair, you should have captured S-Video instead of composite
I can buy a decent HDMI upscaler converter unit for half that which can work all AV based consoles or wait until Hyperkin has their HD N64 out. There better options then have one thing that only works on one when I get something that works multiple things. 🙄
Great video
I was for sure he was going to do cutting-edge gamer
i bought it with the mclassic,haven't gotten it but heard good things
Excellent video, Richie! I wasn't so sure about it, but you definitely proved that GameStop is dying!
Personally, if the HDMI adapter doesn't directly access the digital stream in the console, IOW if it is just a custom ADC, I don't want it. I've got a surround sound AVR with Faroudja DCDi for video ADC needs, like component cables + a TOSLINK cable to a Firewire equipped fat PS2.
IOW figure out what the highest quality signal is that your console outputs and use that, or just do what everyone else I knew did and use the RF modulator on channel 3 and ONLY 3, never 4, even though in my case 3 was a local station that was so strong you got ghosting in the game image. Not kidding, I could not convince them to use 4 instead even when I showed them that 4 got rid of the ghosting.
The only pro to the "Super 64" is that it is close-coupled to the console.