N64 Over HDMI Without Mods | EON Super 64 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- A new HDMI Adapter is being released for the N64?! But just how super can it really be?
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$150!?!? Lord have mercy thats overpriced!!!
$100 to much for an S-Video to HDMI adapter.
$150 my guy
@@IJOLightningrod Read what I wrote.
@@asianpablo1574 $150 puts you in reach of a UltraHDMI
I think what you meant to say was $149.99 dollars too much.
Rocket robot on wheels music in the background.
Nice
Haha, the opening pain point scene where you hold the controller upside down got me! :D Love to see you adding more humor into your videos, Zion! Thanks for the review, a little expensive for me, but I'll keep it in mind!
150 dollars seems to be a bit much when you consider that you can most likely build such an adapter by yourself if you know a little bit something about electronics and video display standards.
30 bucks is all I can get. 50 for a high quality adapter but then it should be able do to a shit ton of stuff really well.
You can get a Rad 2x which is $50, and is pretty much the only good inexpensive plug and play cable out there. If you mod your N64 for RGB, it looks even better.
@@fluffisaurus7090 I am looking into it. Thanks fort the tip. :D
@ No problem, happy to help!
You've heard of Elf on a shelf, now get ready for Zion with an Eon.
loool
Lol I was expected Alex. He scared the crap out of me. But I like this guy.
Does it work with a 3-way HDMI Port?
It's a 2:40 p system that has some options depending on the game that allows you to do different resolutions up to 640p. Depending on the camera angle for example for Resident Evil 2, sometimes the resolution can jump up to 640p. But generally speaking the Nintendo 64 is a 240p system.
Would have been nice to see direct comparisons between composite output and the adapter.
I had the Green line issue with my Super Nintendo, i actually never tried to plug it into my CRT to see if it's the adapter that causes it o3o since apparently the green line thing happens naturally to older SNES models over time.
As neat as this product is, it’s way too expensive for what it does. Their GCHD Mk-II adapter is worth the price: The ability to display clean 480p via HDMI AND the ability to use component cables on a CRT for the sharpest picture possible. All with the amazing options the GCVideo layer offers. It was the easiest $150 I’ve spent in a while.
But this is an S-Video to HDMI converter that upscales the N64’s analog 240p/480i image to 480p. It doesn’t look great, and the sharpening filter option seems mediocre as well. For $150? That’s way, way too much. I’m sure the adapter makes sure there the games are lag-free, unlike cheaper adapters, but if the picture still looks like poo, what’s the point?
I’d argue it’s more worthwhile just the install an RGB mod and exclusively play your N64 on your CRT or install the UltraHDMI mod if you can. Those are way less convenient, but they’re WORTH it. I can’t say the same about this adapter. If it was half the price, then I’d say otherwise.
Im just gonna point out you can get a Carby for $75 and it does everything their gamecube adapter does. Like literally the exact same gcvideo software.
Ian Cowell Well not *literally* everything, as the Mk-II does have the component option. But the fact that the Carby is $75 shows the Super64 should NOT be $150z
@@FlyBird When i mentioned "Literally" it was in reference to the built in open source software that both Eon and Insurrection use for their adapters. That said Eon's intially run of the GCHD before the MKII didnt have this component out port yet still retailed for $150. Also alot of people will be in the market for these kinds of adapters soley for the hdmi solution so its hard to sell people on the component port alone.
Ian Cowell yes, i know the the original EON adapter was $150, and that was certainly overpriced. I explicitly mentioned the component port of the Mk-II, multiple times, because I personally feel it makes up for the pricing, and that’s what sold me.
Anywho, yes, for a straight up HDMI solution, people should get the Carby for GCN for $75. This HDMI solution for N64 is even more overpriced in comparison to that.
Hi. Just got the M Classic today and wonder why I even need the Eon n64 adapter since the graphics look pretty good. So my question is: does Eon N64 adapter couple with MClassic without voiding their INDIVIDUAL warranties AND does Eon n64 really cause a WOW factor when combined? Thank you all who respond 👍🏼
It would have been better to state at the very start that PAL consoles are not compatible. Maybe some PAL console do work, though. The Super 64 uses the S-video output from the A/V port and not all PAL N64 consoles actually supported S-Video, namely the funtastic colour range. So maybe the regular black PAL consoles do work? Either way, the UltraHDMI is a better solution considering the steep price of this.
Nice touch with the Rocket Robot on Wheels music. ❤
As my previous comment on the other one same as as we but with wireless brawler 64 with both the exanan pack and the memory pack as well as a certain number of games included standard games so you can play single player.
Hi I just got my eon super 64 and the screens stretched and blurry any answers ?
I love this thing! It's the perfect solution for capturing N64 footage with my Elgato capture card out of the box! Ultra HDMI seems better overall, but I'm happy I found solution that doesn't require me to modify the hardware.
Hi,
Got this adapter but problem is it zooms in to much and cuts the bottom 8th on the screen if that makes sense
Settings on TV don't have any options that help
Anyone had that problem
Combine it with the mcable for better upscaling. I'm curious about how whould be the result.
See Nintendrew’s recent video. He does this.
@@JMLRetroRoom He used the mclassic, it's a different product not yet avaiable for purchase. But I watched other reviewer that used the mcable. It looks like the best option for people that can't or don't want to mod a N64.
Enxamez Yeah but the mClassic is the same aside from 4K upscaling which he didn’t do and it offers the 4:3 ratio switch which I assume he did use. The regular mCable Gaming Edition will stretch your 4:3 into 16:9. Most TVs can correct this but if you capture gameplay for YT then that’s another step in editing. I know because I have the Gaming Edition.
...N64 Classic any time now, Nintendo...
the problem there though is Nintendo still to this day don't know how to accurately recreate the analogue range of the N64 pad. All their digital games on Wii/Wii U showed this very clearly with F-zero64 and Starfox64 being noticeably jittery as far as the detectible range transferred over to another controller- even when patched. You can still play them but not to a highly optimised level- F-zero is a nightmare regarding any subtle in-between movement instead requiring almost steps of movement from the player. It's something Nintendo doesn't seem keen to even look at so unless this is addressed it will continue to be a problem
I just bought one and I love it.
The obvious comparison should be the RetroTINK 2x. The two upscalers use the same basic technology and have very comparable results. The Eon is 50% more expensive though. It also lacks the PAL, Component and Composite support that the RetroTINK 2x has. But is in small form factor that some may be willing to pay more for. I suspect it's going to be a hard sell though as there is a lot of competition.
What hdmi to use?
Well I don't have an original 64 anymore but if I did along with this adapter I'd probably play Mario or Perfect Dark.
Super64. + mclassic looks stunning
Me: * reads the title* you mean an emulator on a pc? I mean it doesent Just upscales it, it renders it in hd
The cheapes option is to find an old CRT TV on the curb or your local recycling center... Like I did.
...or use a Retrotink 2x and an N64 S-Video cable. Costs about the same (or less, depending on where you're sourcing the S-video cable), has all the same features, only takes a couple more steps to set-up (literally plugging in a couple extra cables), is compatible with PAL systems, has the same video quality as this adapter, and the Retrotink 2X doubles as an HDMI adapter and line-doubler for any SD video game console weather they be NTSC or PAL, not just the N64.
Seriously, I love Eon's GCHD, and I appreciate what they're trying to do with the Super 64. It's great that they're producing high-quality ways to play our retro consoles on modern screens without needing to perform extensive electronic modifications (or without emulating them... seriously, N64 emulation sucks). But the Super 64's function has already been done better and more versatile for close to the same price point. I suppose if you ONLY ever wanted to play the N64, then maybe this is a nicer, cleaner package. But somehow I doubt that a person looking for such a solution only cares to play the N64. Or if they do, it's a minuscule demographic compared to general retro gamers looking for ways to play games from 240p/480i/288p/576i sources.
The only other demographics I could think of that this would be a good value to, are people that insist on having a clean-looking retro-setup, to the point that they're willing to spend extra on multiple HDMI solutions for individual consoles (something I can see happening, admittedly), or people that insist on buying their games and hardware from their local retro game store, where the Super 64 is far more likely to be available than a Retrotink 2X.
For those like me who think it's too expensive, you can get a rad2x cable which essentially does the same thing for less than half the price. No lag, region free, rgb support, no external power, works on n64, snes and gamecube.
Is it really good though? I mean visually is it worth it?
Is it possible to use it with PS1?
I bought a av to hdmi they are not the greatest my gamecube is blurry as hell
This video popped up at literally the exact same time as the Metal Jesus video on the same thing. What are the odds?
They must had receive the products for review at the same time and/or they have an embargo.
They were all most likely scheduled uploads that all went up as soon as embargo ended
This is far from the best no mod option. For less money you can get a retrotink. Plus it will work with all your other retro consoles.
Does it work for snes too? Being they have the same port...
Youd have to mutilate your snes to make the plastic housing of this adapter actually fit in the back of the snes. Id recommend getting a RAD2x instead for snes.
zelda. also in 4k 82 inch tv it looks like a blurry mess of pixels, its the best adapter i've found, but still looks rough, in my opinion it's barely playable while cheaper adapters weren't even playable
1:40 man's lookin like ryan reynolds
Couple the Super 64 with an Mclassic and it's as good as an Ultra hdmi mod. But neither comes close to how grand the 64 games look in emulation on my monster emulator PC.
Only 480i? I thought it would be 480p at least.
It is
RetroTink 2X is cheaper, works with more consoles, and even has the slick mode.
PSA: if you are in Europe and you like N64. Get an NTSC console. Nevermind this Eon thing, but why play the games slower than was originally intended? The PAL console is literally inferior and if you are an everdrive owner, all the ROMs are NTSC.
The N64 hardware based clone will be coming soon. I'm interested in that.
It'll be disappointing. It's not a hardware clone per se, it's an emulator that reads cartridges. The results will be the same as using Mupen on an NVidia Shield.
@@MrJordandurrant hardware based clones are supposed to be coming by next year as the physical hardware patents have reached their full length in time. Software based emulation is always legal. (I'm talking about the emulator, not downloading illegal copies online as some people don't understand the difference when people say emulation is legal)
Poor review, you should have compared it to generic upscalers like the OSSC.
None of these videos talk about speed! How responsive is this device?
Holding the controller upside down I see
I'm a real gamer!
Zion on e.o.n... just me, I’ll get my coat.
You beat me to it. Lol
And me, congratulations.
I'm gonna say it anyway.
Nintendo life: Rise of the canned sound
Does it work with a Super Nintendo too? Because it has the same port
I can’t think of a reason it wouldn’t but I would suggest you get the HD Retrovision Component cables that upscale the RGB signal so it would be much higher quality for less than half the price. Pound has an HDMI solution for the SNES that is about $30 that uses the RGB signal too. This thing is specifically made for the N64 because it lacks native RGB, there is better video quality natively to tap into on the SNES.
Cool! Thank you for your knowledge lol I’ll look into that 😃
Get a rad2x for snes. Its essentially the same as using hd retrovision cables into a retrotink2x but all in one single $50 cable
I just bought one and it doesn't work. I think the one I have is defective.
The N64 is a primarily a 240p console. All of those $30 HDMI cables and $20 converter boxes mishandle 240p but deinterlacing a non-interlaced video signal. The VAST majority of HDTVs with analog inputs do the same when scaling to their internal resolution because they 240p was kind of a hack and TV was generally 480i. Even the few HDTVs that do properly handle 240p only do that with YPbPr Component or RGB connections. Then, there's the problem with most old consoles having non-standard timings that even trip up TVs that handle 240p (latest Samsung HDTVs). It's a real mess.
The simple solution is to line-double the 240p input and output digital 480p with a device that is aware of 240p and handles it properly. That is what this does. That is also what OSSC and RetroTink 2X do. So far, no digital solution to this problem is under $100.
what about pal compatibility?
Get a Rad2x
HOLY FUCK £120 HELL NO!
Wtheck is that price, that’s insanely expensive.
Costs more than the console makes sense
Hold up is Zion the HD version of Alex?
I just got this today. And Doom 64 is now playable woot woot. Well worth the money. I recommend it to all.
My 64 is had really imput lag.
My Gas company makes N64 add ons????????????????
$150 and doesn't even support PAL. What a waste of money. Might as well just do HDMI mod on your N64 console than use this.
I mean. It says it doesn't do pal
Lol that's not worth the price. What a joke
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What a waste of money. $20 at a retro game store can get you the same quality... I'll use one that needs a power source rather than spend $150 for this terrible thing.
where's Alex?
Total waste for me to watch this video as the information about it being NTSC only came at the end of the video. Would've been nice to get that info at the start of the video.
Get a rad2x instead for pal support
It's called an emulator.
Try playing resident evil 2 on n64 on it
The HD "solution" is called an emulator, which is free.
Except the point of this isn't for the "best possible n64 experience" it's to use original hardware on a modern tv
@@asianpablo1574 Which is why this is a niche product, only for those crazy about the N64
Software emulation... No thanks :(
@@PSNGormond it works perfectly fine, and depending can do up to 4k.
@@codo8584 Those crazy about N64 get a UltraHDMI