Stormbreaker was between Thanos & Thor, but Thanos could have used the time stone to to attack before Thor got into position or the Space stone to move to the side & avoid the attack & take Thor out.
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@@mattdowds8505 I think the idea here is that even with the completed gauntlet, Thanos still has to think. He is still a mortal being and thus prone to making error in calculation. There is a myriad of things he COULD have done in that moment, but he did what his brain decided was best and I mean... he still got to snap his fingers.
This makes total sense but let's not forget that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team
The Gauntlet was made of Uru to harness the power of the Infinity Stones, so wouldn’t it make sense that Stormbreaker would be just as capable of dispersing the energy blast from the Gauntlet?
Uru isn't indestructible, just ask Hela. If she can break Mjolnir made of Uru but the infinity gauntlet can't touch it, then Hela would be stronger than Thanos even with the Full Gauntlet. And she was beaten by Surter, which would make him a being stronger than the being who could overpower a metal that beat a full Infinity Gauntlet.
@@jefferickson8493Uru is used specifically to harness the stones. Not to beat Hela. Her being able to destroy Uru metal is irrelevant. And that logic doesn’t work, the metal is designed to be able to harness the stones. It’s not meant to be indestructible. Hela destroying that metal doesn’t equate to her being stronger than the stones or whatever you just tried to say. That would be like saying Batman is stronger than Superman because he can destroy kryptonite, and kryptonite can easily kill Superman.
@@jefferickson8493 no stormbreake is way stronger then mjnior and thanos was holding back severely the Russo brothers confirmed this also I see hella beating base thanos high diff blood lusted thanos ripped caps shield like paper that Shield was able to take attacks from mjnior so there relative in power
This doesn’t negate the fact that he had time change his strategy/decision while StormBreaker was flying towards him... I feel he fully intended to stop the weapon and couldn’t.
Me too, if he was able too it would have been either stop storm breaker or snap . I believe he was using atleast 90% of the stones power to blast at Thor maybe more
@@THEPHARAOH2 me too. I don't think he thought he would have had to use full power to stop stormbreaker. Because stormbreaker was supposed to be a myth, the gauntlet wasn't a myth, Odin had a replica in hit vault. So if the Gauntlet was already known, and stormbreaker was supposed to be the strongest weapon, then I definitely think it's alot strong than what ppl thinks, plus it has powers from groot aswell that no1 seems to think about too. So I think we will find out more about stronbreaker in later movies. We'll I hope atleast.
@@steveshypebeastandsneakerr4980 yea i hope in Thor 4 or GOTG 3 they explain it a little better because.it was just brought in for the sake.of the high stakes BUT i would like to bring up that in endgame Cap liftes stormbreaker so IDK
@@THEPHARAOH2 I believe he became worth after they brought every1 back, and then after getting his butt kicked by Thanos, and then stood back up, then he was worthy. Thats when I think he became worthy
To be fair he destroyed the ship Thor was on in a attempt to kill him. The surviving half of the Asgardians already were allowed to leave the ship. Thor was on Thanos' personal list of who he should kill. Where Thanos wanted to kill Thor repeatedly Hulk and Loki temporarily stalled him. Thanos believed the destruction of Thor's ship and the cold vast of space would be enough to kill Thor but was unaware that the GotG showed up to save him.
That and maybe he thought killing Loki might break him a bit? Sure they had a tough relationship, to put it mildly, but it obviously hurt Thor when he died in front of him. Thanos seems to slip from balanced death to focused punishment from time to time(toying with Starlord/The Guardians, replacing Nebula's parts, and torturing her in front of her sister). It may not be wanton killings but still somewhat sadistic. Also cuts into the indifferent theory slightly, trying to kill Thor and actually killing Loki, but they do have history
I believe you're right, and when he saw Thor again in Wakanda he was pissed and he wanted to finish him for good so he used the full power of The Guanlet on Thor in hopes of killing him but Thor's power in Storm Breaker was too strong for it.
I have an alternate theory. In the comics, Thanos says he will give his enemy 1 chance to win. In the film as even you point out, he could have destroyed any and all of the Avengers, at any time. He chose not to. He even tells Thor, "You should have gone for the head." Thanos is the master of gamesmanship. He gave Thor one chance. Thor failed.
Okay but if it was a "you get one chance" that would mean that Thor used that chance to defeat thanos by firing at Thanos first. Since he didn't defeat Thanos in "one chance" then it wouldn't make sense that Thanos would "hold back" He almost lost the gauntlet during the fight on Titan. I don't see how, having 4 stones - facing the Guardians and some of the Avengers and almost losing the Gauntlet...he would "hold back" even if he picks them off one-by-one. He always does that. Everytime he attacks 1) he doesn't kill unless attacked 2) he has others kill and genocide for him 3) he knew Odin was a threat and it wasn't until he died...And... 3a) a "civil war" *Hela vs. Thor* lead to Ragnarok that Thanos could overpower the survivors of Asgard ...3b) Hulk attacks first - Thanos puts him down. Hulk is saved by Heimdall. Loki attacks first and gets his neck snapped ..3c) crushes James Rhodes Ironman suit...Hulk isn't anywhere near a threat. BASICALLY - He knows how to assess a situation or set of events well enough that..he gets all 6 stones 🤦♂️ 4) Just because the gauntlet and Stormbreaker were made from the same material does not explain how that spacemetal could withstand the what we see *multiple stones used to create a beam of energy to obliterate Thor. I think that because it can summon the bifrost, that's what "beats" Thano's beam. The bifrost would have to be made of the energy of all stones 1) space (to traverse the universe) 2) time (to traverse space) 3) mind (heimdall thinks it, person goes there...Thor thinks it, Thor goes there) 4) soul (to be able to locate persons across the universe) 5) reality (Asgard gets its strenth/power from persons who believe in them/their legends. Thus, Odin - being able to create a dimension (Hel) to trap Hela in would cresting a "type" of reality *a pocket dimension* ...As belief is tied to Asgard is toAsgard Odin is to Creator Figure...Thus, the Rainbow bridge/Bifrost would be capable of traveling dimensions 6) power (if this one needs to be explained..) Soo...if we see the bifrost/rainbow color shield barrier Stormbreaker has as Thano's beam hits it Wouldn't that be closer to how Stormbreaker could have beat the might of multiple stones ? (Remember Thanos used 2 stones to break up a planet and teleport it at the same time. So it's not like he would just use one stone or think "I only need *x* to beat Thor when he knows the stuff I said lol
True You can even see In the wakandan fight right before the snap how Thanos tries to avoid killing the avengers and or causing serious injury but rather focuses on subduing them.....save for Vision ofcourse
You can clearly see Thanos is using more than one stone, possibly all of them, but I thought it was obvious it channelled the power of the Infinity Gauntlet through the Bifrost elswhere like a portal.
@@DoctorZisIN when I think "enraged" I think of The Hulk, Thanos was not enraged because he expected traitors to his cause. Regardless of their views he was committed to it and their betrayals were of little matter to him. They were just tools after all, and end to a means... One does not become emotionally attached to a tool, unless your name is Thor and that was why Odin had problems with his favored son.
Going to go with the bifrost theory and that thanos didn't have full knowledge about how to use all the stones to their fullest. Not to mention its hard to tell how fast storm breaker was being thrown. Just because it appears not that fast to the audience of the movie doesn't mean Thor didnt throw it at mach 5-100. In the comics he throws it so fast he able to fly at light speed. I know the mcu is different but still.
Yeah he knew the sacrifices he knew everything lmao it was inevitable 😐 he looked threw his daughters memories he seen the fight on titian and his own death and owned that shit and went on a more tightened up mission!!!
We can rule out Thanos wanting to see who would survive since he never cared about earth to begin with. And Storm Breakers ability to displace energy makes perfect sense.
One quick note is that Thanos actually did decide when it came to one person whether he will be snapped or not. That person would be Tony Stark because Doctor Strange made sure Thanos gave his word to spare Tony Starks life. PS storm breaker’s moving the infinity stones powers somewhere else is a theory not fact.
@@themessage267 Actually I never saw this brought up but it may be true because Thanos clearly spared himself as well, and Nebula survived the snap, so it's not out of question he put a couple names on the list to survive.
I would be more inclined to believe the theory where Thanos wanted the snap to decide who died over the other because, when he snapped, he seemed just as surprised as Thor that the gauntlet was damaged and smoking. If he were afraid of damaging it, he probably would have expected that.
@@antonradke5943 That’s true. But added to the fact that he could have turned people into slugs or half a pair of socks without much damage to the gauntlet, yet he didn’t, also makes more sense to me with the first theory.
When I was watching it for the first time, I wasn't surprised Stormbreaker was flying through the infinity beams. I thought when Thor showed up in Wakanda, the war was won. I even yelled something like "Yeah, we just won!" So, the snap was a surprise to me.
I like this theory. Thanos embraced a 'holy' war after he got the space stone. He removed his armor and was no longer engaged in a battle to kill and massacre. Assembling the stones would take away the effort of going planet-to-planet as Gamora so rightly said. But, I do still wonder juat a little if he fully.grasped the extemt of power at his hand, and how to use it. To alter reality by snapping away half of all life is a tremendous feat, which literally roasted the gauntlet. So, yes, maybe, he withheld that power as he dealt with the Avengers one by one, little by little. I'm not so sure that Stormbreaker, wielded by Thor, can overpower all 6 stones.
Sure. Does anyone understand ALL the uses of a simple hammer the first time they hold one? That's a conundrum that can't be known. Therefore, this whole video and ALL other theories since and thereafter are a complete waste of time. I just came here to say that.
I think if you notice thanos was adapting and throughout the movie he was getting better at using the stones...by the time he shows up in wakanda he was untouchable
@@wh0_odat644 throughout his quest, he undoubtedly learned what each can do. On Titan, he was at their mercy with 4 stones in hand. If Peter was able to keep himself in check, likely Thanos would have been done. At the moment he got the mind stone, he barely had a moment to embrace that surge before defending his conquest. Whether he threw everything he had into defending himself from Thor and/or Stormbreaker remains questionable to me. How do you defend yourself against a God and a weapon never before used in the universe? He may have had a bit of predicament to react instinctively and effectively. Stormbreaker didn't kill him then, but the stones almost did when he tried to destroy them. We might never know what he was trying to achieve at that moment against his adversary who "he never fought twice". Yet, Thor was certain enough that he needed this weapon to defeat Thanos... who had only two stones in hand by that time.
@@teligon I dig, even tho he clearly fought with alot of restraint through out the movie...even on Titan if his intent was to kill they would have all died
@@wh0_odat644 the writers and producers are just brilliant throughout the entire series of films, in how they bring everything together. You never really know for sure who is going to shine. Thor stole Infinity War. He went on a quest to see who was behind the motivation to collect infinity stones and willed himself to do what was necessary after losing everything. In the opening scenes after Thanos killed Heimdall, he said "You're going to die for that." He would land the last blow of the avengers at the end of the film, with the words, "I told you... you'd die for that." Didn't miss his mark in the beginning of Endgame. No mistakes repeated. And in the final epic battle, he would say, "Let's kill him properly this time." Nothing deterred his ferocity. But he did get an ass-kicking, though, when the Trinity fought Thanos alone.
I remember watching the movies like damn Thanos really is holding back. Why not go all out? But these theories actually make sense: -Dont overuse the stones and cause damage to the gauntlet. You wont get another one. -Doing what needs to be done is not personal. Only kill people if absolutely necessesary.
In the back of my mind I have always had a theory that stormbreaker wasn't overpowering the stones themselves but rather the gauntlet. The dwarf king designed and created both the gauntlet and stormbreaker, it would make sense that he would create some kind of hidden weakness within the gauntlet (think, exhaust port in the death star), and then created stormbreaker to be able to exploit this weakness. Just a theory.
this is basiaclly word for word what i said about it; the dwarf seemed to be very sure stormbreaker WAS THE most powerful weapon he'd ever witnessed... and the fact it hadnt been crafted yet screams that odin + dwarf KNEW this fact and purposefully let the universe THINK the gauntlet was the most powerful, when in reality; stormbreaker would have amplified odins power... which would have made odin powered up on levels perhaps he KNEW he'd need someday against LARGER enemies (hints at galactus). idk if odin knew for sure if he'd need to sleep BEFORE all of that though, maybe he did indeed let his guard down and thats how this all unfolds, but in the end; odin and dwarf were Scheming Rune powered cosmic weapons since the beginning so stormbreaker being a "fail safe" incase SOmEoNe* goes nuts.
As a long time collector, I remember the Simonson run with fondness and nostalgia. As I recall, Odin had Stormbreaker crafted specifically for Beta Ray Bill. My question: Where is Beta Ray Bill?
I agree but given circumstances none of those factors are present anymore. Odin was part of that. They also don't want to exact copy and past to avoid predictability
Im kinda more impressed that the handle didn't get cut in half from Thanos #2's Sword. He clearly uses the wood part to block a cutting swipe with just thr handle yet it can cut Vibranium?!?!
magical runes crafted by all father himself my boiiiis. groots arm was a sacrifice to the weapon ultimately empowering it to dah max! Rune Magic is big with Odin, stormbreaker (probably) has them ALL lol
It was said in the beginning of the movie: Thor went to Nidavellir to get a weapon capable of defeating Thanos. It was already stated then, that such weapon would be immune to the Infinity Gauntlet, being created by Eitri.
I think it’s simpler than what you said. The gauntlet is made from Uru in order to contain the power of the stones and allow the user to manipulate its power. Therefore Uru has properties that the stones cannot harm (until they’re used in full power). Therefore Stormbreaker (made of Uru) is resistant to the power of the stones, naturally. So as long as Thanos didn’t use them at full power like he did in Endgame, stormbreaker would have always beat the stones.
Its not resistant to the power of the stones,more like it can absorb energy efficiently just like the gaunlet so the stormbreaker was able to tank the beam of the six stones.
@@seeker2760 so that would mean the gauntlett was continually absorbing the energy of the gauntlet whilst on Thanos' arm. Where did the energy go? Into Thanos? Then what. There has to be a resistance factorto it. Just like electricity flowing through a circuit, it has to go somewhere unless it is contained. If the gauntlet can contain the energy then there has to be a resistance factor involved. But that all if we are talking logically which none of this is. It's all fantasy, so people can come up with as many different ideas as they want.
@@thirdeye200 The energy doesnt have to go anywhere, it just got absorbed byy the metal as it has magical properties.U cant use real life scienece to explain how 6 magical stones work what i wanted to say was stormbreaker isnt resistant to its powers,it can just absorb energy well.so if thanos used a different type of attack like changing the molecular structure of stormbreaker and turning it into some other object or opened a portal to send it to a black hole then stormbreaker couldnt have resisted those type of attacks in any way.
@@seeker2760 The gauntlet and Stormbreaker are made from the same materials so whatever stormbreaker does so does the gauntlet. If we can't use real world science in any of this, the whole video and discussions are null and void and pointless talking about until the writers (who are the only ones who really know) say something.
The most likely thing that happened is that Thanos doesn't really feel like fighting the Avengers because he will just use the snap as random 50% dusted away. Also explains why past Thanos without the stones gives a better fight scene.
All good theories however I believe the odin force simply output the energy from the base attack fantasy used even though that attack contained energy from all 6 stones it was simply an energy beam vs possibly the full Odin force being thrown In Thors rage for revenge I tried saying it's a kings weapon that can summon the bi frost is Marvel explaining to you that thor is now in control of his father's power source When we see 3 or 4 thors running around in thor 4 I'm sure this will be expanded on
I think that is absolutely the best description I've ever herd about this !!! There's been so many theories about this... the wayyou explain things is amazing 👏!!! Thank you!!!
One theory I'd like to further enhance this is that Etri could have also put a flaw in the Gauntle.The Gauntle won't work as well against other Uru weapons. That may explain why when he was fighting Carol, he separated the Power Stone to knock her back, even with Tony's Gauntle.
@@TheCosplayInsanity if that's the case, etri deserved what happened to him, what Thanos did to the dwarves. They betrayed him, and Thanos found out what they did so he rekt them.
He didn't "allow" Drax and Mantis to retain their normal forms, the directors have said that the idea was that without the other 5 stones, the effects of reality warping effects of the reality stone were temporary.
I love how storm breaker just comes out of the mold already super fucking sharpened and tempered and polished without a second between scenes lol cooooooooooool
I think it had to do with the FACT that STORMBREAKER was specifically designed to defeat the power of the stones. Remember that Thanos killed all of the other dwarfs and demolished Etri's hands in order to prevent them from creating a weapon, STORMBREAKER, that could defeat the power of the gauntlet. The dwarfs were designing STORMBREAKER as they were being forced by Thanos to build the gauntlet. That's why there was a cast readily available. STORMBREAKER had the ability to absorb that energy, plus it was being propelled by the full might of Thor's power. Thor was hell-bent to keep his promise for the death of his best friend, Heimdahl.
@@locks4 kool but absorbing cosmic energy is a fact and good writing that’s left out of every movie so far now that’s bad writing Thor is how many movies in and we still haven’t got how powerful he really is yet but one movie explains capt marvel dr strange scarlet witch etc
The only thing I can say to the part where Thanos wanted the infinity stones to choose who loved and died was that he had made sure to keep stark alive as Dr Strange asked
I personally think Eitri could have put a fail safe in the guantlet the guantlet after all was designed to be something feared but against such a weapon like the stormbreaker a weapon fit for a king a kings weapon i would see them installing a failsafe on all there armor against any armour before it like an all father seal plus eitri was probably pissed for slaughtering his ppl
Any info we know about stormbreaker is if it had a normal handle, but it doesnt. The handle was make from groots arm. I believe that added something extra to stormbreaker
Love all the ideas. Going along with how Thanos dealt with and spoke about who would live and die, I like the thought he was holding back. He had just done so several times immediately preceding this action. 👍🏻
In my opinion, the infinity gauntlet basically acts like the Bifrost mechanism Asgardians use for intergalactic travel that's why Stormbreaker was able to overpower it. Following the theory, Thanos meant to banish Thor from Earth by using the Bifrost generated by the gauntlet but unknowingly failed because of the capabilities of Stormbreaker. The Bifrost was constructed because dark energy, which fueled the transportation, causes much strain to use by both the conjurer and the traveler alike. Asgardians constructed the rainbow bridge and Himinbjorg to act as catalyst for effortless and harmless travel using the Bifrost. This very same principle was used by Eitri in the construction of the gauntlet, much like how Tony miniaturized the arc reactor, Eitri did it to the gauntlet; a miniaturized Himinbjorg. By default, as shown in the first Thor movie, overloading the Himinbjorg produced catastrophic results. Applying the same principle, Thanos knew not to overload the gauntlet throughout his conquest, reserving it for the "snap".
damn dog imagine if odin just used a few of the stones to power defense mechanisms through the bifrost machine on asgard!? that stone vision has could have turned the bifrost into a person... who could have used the other few stones to ENSURE flawless protection against ALL enemies... eh i guess marvel universe would be boring then huh? lol
I firmly believe that he only used one of the stones to send that beam, we've never really seen multiple stones being used at the same time "Combing the power of multiple stones, when making an attack" (from what i'm aware of), besides the snap.
From what i understand which is prolly the same thing here but it was said in order to make the snap it took a certain amount of power and he had to minimize the power he was using to fight so he would still have enough to make the snap
@@jaymz010 nah I think it’s just humans having no idea what’s out there so it just makes sense for convenience sake. Just like everybody ignoring Thor breathing heavily while in outer space on Nedivillair😂😂
There's actually a theory in the Marvel Universe that all humanoids the Super heroes encounter, are the descendants of future humans (time being circular). Also humanoids have a propensity for conquest, expansion and destruction, so few other non-related intelligent beings remain.
Good theories but I don't think the directors even thought of this. I think it was as simple as the plot demanded it. We as the audience always come up with better theories than they do because they don't even read comics they subvert expectations for the sake of it and say "tadah... see"
I believe they just have to dumb it down for the audience, because trying to be true to the comics would be too confusing. Probably half the people watching never read comics. There would be no way storm breaker would stand a chance against the gauntlet with it standing up to eternity/infinity etc
In a way they downplayed Thor in the beginning. We all know the Hulk and Thor would have charged him together and destroy Thanos and his goons the moment they entered the ship. Not to mention they had Valkyrie, Heimdall, and Loki who could have taken care of the children of Thanos
@@Grievingbow Thanos didn't have all of them when he attacked Thor and his company on the ship, but he did have the power stone. Which is a major game changer and he also had his war gear on that's a buffer against attacks.
Each battle against Thanos appears gratuitous if not in light of him choosing to leave it to the stones rather than spaghettify everyone in turn. That's a very good point that he had struck first aiming a likely non-fatal blow at Thor and not Stormbreaker. That's all you need to make sense of it. The bifrost idea seems silly and superfluous if you ask me.
Stormbreaker didn’t overpower the gauntlet. Thanos fired his blast *at* Thor. Stormbreaker has the power of the bi-frost. Thor threw his Stormbreaker *at* the beam that Thanos fired at *him.* The bifrost caused this energy to be teleported away. Bifrost is a form of teleportation. Thanos might have done many other things with the Gauntlet: He could have turned Thor into ice and shattered him as he did in the comics. He would have turned Stormbreaker into ribbons like he did to Drax. But he wasn’t aiming at Stormbreaker - he aimed at Thor. So give Thor credit for a desperate and brilliant strategy in an impossible situation. Ultimately all of Thor’s efforts were doomed as Thanos had the reality stone, the time stone, and the soul stone making him effectively invincible. I know the ‘fans’ hate that fact but it’s true. At the end of the film Stormbreaker simply reversed out of Thanos chest and fell to the ground while he teleported away. In the last scene it is clearly shown that Thanos has no damage to his chest. The damage is reversed in time - same as with Dr. Strange and Dormamu. You can’t defeat 6 Infinity Stones with an Axe - no matter how powerful. Per Etri - the purpose of the axe - was to *kill Thanos* - not over power the Infinity Stones.
@@Arjr72 No he didn’t. Thanos didn’t didn’t die in Infinity War, and Thor did no harm to him whatsoever. He went to the soul world because of the snap - this would have happened *regardless* of the encounter with Thor. If as you want to pretend - Thor had hurt hurt him with the StormBreaker - he would *not* have been able to snap, and survive. He did this all the while the Stormbreaker was in his chest - and only then, did he use the stones again - and reverse the axe out of his chest and teleport away to the farm. I know Thor fans don’t like this: But Thor did no damage to Thanos, he was never a threat, and Thanos specifically told him to go for the head - because *that’s what he wanted Thor to do do in End Game.* If you don’t want to accept this, you need to explain why he never killed Thor. He could have done so at any time, before and after the snap. You also need to ask why he *left Thor the Axe.* Then explain *why he destroyed [atomized] the stones - while leaving the Avengers to come and find him.* He wanted to die after completing his mission - this is what he believes in. Good grief he even says this when he sees Thor cut off his head: *And that is destiny fullfilled.* I don’t know what more the writers and directors have to do to spell things out.
I've been saying this since watching the movie. I was familiar with the abilities of stormbreaker, not once did I think it "overpowered" the blast from the gauntlet. But people wanted to focus so much on the power scaling and inconsistencies in this movie totally ignoring the obvious
@@JacobHJones I think you're almost there. The difference is psychological. With all the Avengers and Guardians attacking him, he reacted (save for Strange) like they were all beneath him. Less than beasts, mere flies to be swatted aside. He reacted so strangely when Cap stopped his hand, because Cap didn't use Mjolnir, or magic bands, or alien vines, or plasma blasts. Cap just stopped the mighty, inevitable hand of Thanos with "mere mortal" hands. Once Thanos recovered from the shock of this, he put Cap down like the rest. When Thanos was fighting on Titan, he was ambushed, he was grieving, and he barely had control of the Stones he was using. Even as soon as Wakanda, that had all changed. He put aside his grief, he refocused on the goal, and he better understood the power at his disposal. Everything the heroes threw at him on Titan, he had an answer for in the stones. Only Strange, whose powers rivaled the Stones, and Stark who refused to go down until the bitter end, could even resist him. Then comes a total surprise attack from Stormbreaker. A weapon that did not exist until Thanos already had most of the Stones. A weapon forged to be wielded by a King and used to kill gods. When this suddenly comes hurtling out of the blue at full power, Thanos does not think of it as a fly to be swatted. He is afraid. He forgets the power of the Stones. All that goes through his head is fear and rage of something truly powerful. Could the Stones be used to portal it away, move it out of phase, or turn it into bubbles? Possibly. But not by him at that moment. When he partially remembered how powerful the Stones could make him, he blindly turned their full, raw power toward repulsing the attack in the way of his older, original training. He met an unstoppable force in kind, thinking that would be enough. Hoping it would. He had already lost the battle in his head.
@@JacobHJones As a follow-up to what I just said, I will also add the fairly new acquisitions of the Time Stone and Mind Stone, two things he could not use on Titan. With the Power Stone, Thanos no longer lacked the raw force needed to finish his task. Any planet he went to could simply be destroyed, if he so chose. But Thanos had to reckon with that change in his strength. That's why he tested himself against Loki, Thor, and Hulk. Next, Thanos acquired the Space Stone. Now he could go to any planet in an instant, and I believe it was even confirmed the Space Stone acted as a homing agent to help him find the other Stones. But Thanos had to reckon with the smallness of his world. No more spaceships were necessary, no more running, no more flying. He could just be where he wanted to be, and Thanos took a while to grasp that. That's where Knowhere comes in; he realized he could get there and take the next stone before anyone could stop him. Then he got the Reality Stone, and I think that's where Thanos really started to break. He had had Power and Space before the stones, just not the totality. He had had the Power to invade and raze worlds. He had had the ability to travel great distances through the universe via his ships. But Reality was always a grappling contest he lost. Whatever he did, he had no more control over what was Real than anyone else. Once he got the Reality Stone, had the Power to make those delusions real, and the Space Stone to further enhance his control, Thanos could not possibly have a concept of limits. To him, he could do anything, which had to have caused some choice paralysis. He played out an entire alternate scene in which the Guardians defeated him, made it unreal, and prevented them from actually stopping him. Later on, after the next Stone, he'd even change reality to bring Titan back to how it was. Only to change it back because he'd long since accepted the reality of that, embraced it. With Power, Space, and Reality alone, Thanos could eventually overcome the whole universe with his will like Ego had planned. But he craved more. So he got the Soul Stone. And no Power could bring Gamora back. No Space would reveal her to be hiding from him, nor allow him to escape his crime. Not even the power of Reality could change back what he had done. Gamora was gone, forever. Even when he got the next Stone from Strange, going back would not give him back HIS Gamora, the one he sacrificed. And I don't think Thanos ever fully appreciated what the Soul Stone could do. He used it for three things: to reveal which copy of Strange was the real one, to failingly oppose the Stormbreaker, and to perform the Snap.
@@JacobHJones These were the powers which Thanos had to come to grips with on Titan. Powers I think he died before properly appreciating. But after he bested Stark and the indomitable Doctor Strange, and put down all the lesser allies found on Titan, he gained a power we never saw him use properly: save for once. The Time Stone. Thanos allowed the Mind Stone to be swiped from right under his nose, and only when he saw the consequences did he realize "I have the power to make this never happen." He used the stone then, to rebuild the stone and take it for himself. And then he died never truly using the Time Stone for the intended purpose, nor demonstrating that he grasped its value. All of Time, all cause and effect, had been laid open to him. And yet Thanos carried on in the present, looking to a future even he saw as inevitable. He could have used the Stones to rewrite history, changing all of reality in all physical space so that things had never been unbalanced, and no one would ever know to challenge his decision. But he was held back by pride: he wanted the universe to know him and be grateful. Finally, the Mind Stone. And I think this sealed the Stormbreaker encounter, and the subsequent destruction of the Stones. With this final stone, Thanos understood in totality what he had done. And when the god-breaking Stormbreaker came plummeting toward him, hurled by a wrathful God of Thunder who had little left to lose, I'm sure the Mind Stone pummeled the Mad Titan's already unstable mind with screaming thoughts of "OH NO WE'RE BONED!" explaining to him the many vast powers of the Stormbreaker and how royally screwed he'd be if the weapon hit him. If it took off his arm, if it took off his head, he would be denied of his goal. He had no focus to out-strategize Thor, even if a Stone could have given him all the Time he needed. But...maybe the Gauntlet did. Maybe the Mind Stone influenced Space and Reality, so that instead of killing Thanos, the weapon landed somewhere he could survive it. So that it could not physically land anywhere else. I don't know if that was at all Thanos' doing, but it sounds like something the Mind Stone can and would do.
wasnt the bitfrosst used as a weapon in thor 1?and someone even mentioned that the bitfrost uses massive amounts of energy to use. Its possible that instead of absorbing the energy away, stormbreaker is actually using the bitfrost itself as a weapon to counter the atack.
Was Thanos holding back, more than likely as Thanos was not trying to exert his will. Additionally in light of Thanos opting to pacify rather than kill, its clear the absolute power didn't corrupt him, meaning he was actually the good guy, granted the mission resulted in the erasure from existence half of all life. He didn't kill half of all life he removed them from existance.
A bit off topic… but seeing Thor fight next to Cap made me realize that in big fights, heavies like Thor and Hulk would probably be more effective is the squishy Avengers like Cap, Widow and Hawkeye werent on the field. They could just unleash without having to hold back.
It could be because Stormbreaker was fully forged, this combined with the unlocked full power of Thor made Stormbreaker capable of standing up to the power of that blast and stick into Thanos. For those who are not following, Mjolnir was never fully forged in the Norse Saga, as Loki sabotaged the forging process. Mjolnir was intended to be a a two handed war hammer, but it wasn't fully forged and as a result became a one handed war hammer. This could be true for the MCU, if Mjolnir isn't a fully forged war hammer, then if someone fully forged Mjolnir again, it could be twice as strong, perhaps able to summon a Bifrost or create vortex portals if fully forged. We've also seen what happened when all the stones are used at once, Thanos had it fused to his hand after he used all 6 stones to destroy each other, so it is also possible when Stormbreaker was cutting through the energy beam that beam wasn't a result of all the stones being used.
also didn't The gauntlet fuse to thanos's hand when he did the snap to destroy half of all life in the universe and he was talking to Thor with stormbreaker stuck in his chest. not when he used The gauntlet to destroy the stones into Atoms. I could be wrong, but I believe that was the way it happened. that the gauntlet fuse to Thanos his hand when he snapped to use all the stones power to destroy half the life in the universe the same way it messed up Hulks hand when he snapped to bring back half the life in the universe. the hulk's hand became totally damaged because he had to use all the stones at once just like Thanos did when he snapped away half of all the life in the universe at once
I agree with the fact that thanos held back and was also taken by surprise but I don't care this is an unrivaled feat in the mcu, thor overpowered a blast with 6 infinity stones man
I have a simpler theory thoo, Infinity Stones when used individually are more powerful. Since, They all control each of the six fundamental aspects of life. I think this was further evidenced by Thanos' blasting of Carol Danvers across the battlefield in Endgame. He could ve easily sent a blast like he did against Thor. But then, He acted like he knew Captain Marvel could absorb the blast itself. So, He decided to take out the power stone, which is designed to overpower everything in the universe. So, Thanos was smart in that scene.
There is one detail I would like to bring up that kinda contradicts your theory. It seems Thanoss' snap was not entirely unbiased, since Nebula and Tony Stark survived, and earlier in the movie Thanoss made deals with Gamora and Doctor Strange to keep both alive. Also, given that those two were instrumental in the whole "one reality" thing, it seemed, (at least to me) that Thanoss intentially left them alive.
I do think stormbreaker was alil stronger that explained. Even tho Thanos didn't hit Thor with the strongest blast, he knows how strong Thor is ,so I do believe he held back alil to keep from hurting the gauntlet ,but I think he shot as powerful blast as he possibly could without destroying the gauntlet. Because when he would blast some1 with 1 stone, he hit them about as hard as he could with the single stones.
Stormbreaker can open the bifrost , Dark energy is above light , by the way bifrost and 6 infinity stones have the same colors so probably Stormbreaker can be used against infinite energy as it possesses Dark energy. Thor still does not know about the Thor force which is passed to him after Odin past away . So may be we get to see super powerful Thor in the near future.
I thought stormbreaker channeled the power of the Odin Force/ Thor Force. The uru metal plus all that godly energy may be enough to do something especially if thanos underestimated him.
MY THEORY ☝🏽 Much like the Green Lantern rings, the gauntlet requires Thought - Imagination - Will But in that split second moment Thanos used the gauntlet against Thor, he didn’t have time to think. It was just an act of desperation. Not harnessing any one particular stones ability. Just an impulsive strike back using all the stones, but for not any particular purpose. Like a panicked scream
…given the way he easily dealt with the combined efforts of Strange, Iron man, Spiderman and the guardians, I doubt it! There is more to stormbreaker than meets the eye
i still think thor with stormbreaker makes him magnitudes stronger than any of the Avengers, mainly due to the fact that with all the help of everyone attacking thanos at once they only ever got a single tiny scratch on him yet Thor easily chops his head off in one swing
Just imagine in the middle of the fight on Titan, something very small happened differently, and the TVA shows up And shuts everything down casually. It would be like if a colony of ants were battling a hornet, and a boot comes in and kills them all.
It does make a lot of sense. Plus it adds on to what we see in Endgame where thanos is displaying his full power without the infinity stones. He essentially has all the power but only uses it to get what he needs, even if that involves sparing his enemies. He is a warrior and a good one, but he did get a bit complacent with his power, thinking he just needed to use it against everything instead of getting out of the way, which why stormbreaker hit him in the chest.
I wonder with the new multiverse born we will get to eventually see a 3rd version of Thanos that’s more like the MCU-Marvel,Comic,Universe. Who only collected the infinity stones to snap and impress the Goddess of Death?
@@MikeShabs The Hulk of Planet Hulk had some degree of intelligence so perhaps that's a place to start. It is extremely important to remember his power comes from anger and no anger means no power. Being angry also means acting before thinking so the two ideas will clash. Now imagine him with a DC crossover and a red lantern ring. He would be near unstoppable.
The infinity gauntlet isn’t designed to release energy beams instead each stone is an aspect of the of the universe such as time, space, reality and the rest so it didn’t overpowered gauntlet it over powered energy beam which isn’t as impressive. the only stone that is designed to release power/energy is the power Stone so already we can say that Stormbreaker didn’t overpower the gauntlet but rather just An energy beam from the power Stone. But even then he didn’t overpowered he just cut through it all deflected it just like iron man did with his shield where do you like blocked it he didn’t overpowering it just deflected it away so it could carry on travelling towards thanos chest. Should have gone for the head.
@@seeker2760 yes but again the mind stone isn’t used to fire energy beams that’s why it didn’t completely obliterated Ultron because it had the infinite power behind it and it was designed to be used as a weapon then it would have disintegrated Ultron instantly but I didn’t because it’s just another aspect of life not a weapon. However the Stormbreaker is designed to be a weapon which is why it is able to deflect the beams from the gauntlet.
@@finnrussell320 " the mind stone isn’t used to fire energy beams" it clearly does and that was shown. "that’s why it didn’t completely obliterated Ultron" the same argument can be applied to the power stone,it also didnt instantly obliterate everything. and more importantly vibranium cannot harness the power of a infinity,not even uru can so that argument doesnt hold value.
if it was just an energy beam from the power stone alone then why show it as multicoloured? clearly each stones power was colour coded so that the audience knows which stone is being used.The fact the beam was white implies that all 6 stones(or at least more than 1) were used in some way.
@@seeker2760 you are wrong. The mind stone isn’t designed to be used to fire energy beams. Yes it was used for it but it’s not designed for it that’s the difference. As seen in guardians of the Galaxy I think a celestial use the power Stone to completely obliterated a planet so I’m not sure why you brought up the power Stone not being used as a weapon when clearly that is exactly what it is.
Eitri- stormbreaker is a weapon of legend. Never in my 1000 years have I ever built it. Thor- but you have the mold to cast it? Were you just busy or..?
The Infinity stone only works on in universe stuff, and it has been hinted off that uru, the metal Thor stomebringer was made out off, is and isn't apart of their universe. 🤔I think Thor share the same properties as a bi-dimensional entity.
Thanos was holding back the whole time. He never in his entire career went around just killing everybody. He fought when there was resistance and then randomly executed half the population. He was never shown to be a cold blooded killer. His "work" was, in his mind, designed to save life and make people live happier lives. It was not personal for him and he even says exactly that. His energy beam attack was aimed at Thor, not Stormbreaker, and therefore can be deduced it was intended to disable Thor, not stop a flying Uru axe or destroy it. None of Thanos' attacks damaged the gauntlet short of the snap, so it's easy to determine the amount of power being channeled was not enough to overcome the integrity of Uru and cause any damage to Stormbreaker.
i think he definitely is holding back... which explains why the other thanos from 2012 that came back in endgame was able to fight all the avengers together and still gain upperhand despite having NO infinity stones... because that thanos is using all his might to fight and not holding back...
It didn't actually look to me like a singular beam. Looked like he was firing all of them singularly alongside the others. Whether they coalesce down the beam doesn't mean the beam at that point is more powerful. And we've seen all kinds of things deflect singular beams from infinity stones. We know Vibranium can withstand a direct blast, and whatever metal Corvus spear was made from can deflect one. It's not that crazy to think a godly weapon like that could blast through 6 beams.
Another thing to consider is the handle. It's made of Groot's arm, who 'sacrificed himself' (just with some pain) to complete Stormbreaker. I wonder if the Soul Stone responded to Groot's will, similarly to how Steve Rogers was able to stop Thanos' strike, and negated it or something. idk I like the bifrost theory though.
This makes perfect sense to me. It seems very obvious looking back that Thanos was not fighting to his full potential in infinity war. Especially at the final fight scene in endgame where Thanos was not at all concerned with saving anyone from this universe, he appears to unleash his much more brutal fighting ability on the big 3 avengers. I like these theories. Makes me excited about upcoming films and the continued marvel saga altogether.
My theory was he decided to take it so he could say 'should have aimed for the head' because he knew it wasn't going to kill him and wanted to rub salt into the wound, he is after all 'the MAD titan'
I was SHOCKED (pun intended) when Thanos got hit by that crazy ⚡ blast!! It was the first attack that put him down HARD, Then he shot off a blast from all 6 stones but not to the full existent of the Gauntlets power or it would have torched his arm like when he did the Snap. It was definitely a powerful blast by Thanos but he couldn't attack a 100 percent so that's why I believe Stormbreaker overpowered all 6 stones to have not aimed for the head!! Stupid move Thor. They lost the battle but ultimately won the war!
As another already commented, Stormbreaker was able to divert the gauntlet's power blast elsewhere. That's because its wielder can command the Rainbow Bridge, a reality warping means of transport. In fact, if you look closely, not only do you see the main thrust of the gauntlet's power blast, but you can see a rainbow-like coruscanting of power where the hammer meets the gauntlet's power beam. You can also see along the outer edges of the beam the power signatures of the individual stones. Conclusion: Thanos wasn't properly using the gauntlet. After being slammed by Thor's uber-powerful lightning blast, augmented by the hammer, Thanos panicked and just blasted at Thor with a largely uncontrolled power beam (the evidence of this is the individual power signatures visible along the edges of the beam, as noted). If Thanos hadn't panicked, he could have used the stones in any number of ways to stop the hammer before it got even close. But he fell back on brute force in his panic instead of using more subtle means.
I think it was a bit of all of them (Except the Bifrost thing...that one make no sense.) BUT also Thanos not wanting to damage HIMSELF in the process. He knew the power of the stones could destroy the gauntlet so he didn't want to use the full might of it so that the gauntlet wasn't destroyed, but also that he wasn't killed by the effects before he could snap.
That makes more sense canonically and seeing how Thanos deals with the other heroes throughout the film and moments before Thor's attack
Stormbreaker was between Thanos & Thor, but Thanos could have used the time stone to to attack before Thor got into position or the Space stone to move to the side & avoid the attack & take Thor out.
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
@@mattdowds8505 I think the idea here is that even with the completed gauntlet, Thanos still has to think. He is still a mortal being and thus prone to making error in calculation. There is a myriad of things he COULD have done in that moment, but he did what his brain decided was best and I mean... he still got to snap his fingers.
This makes total sense but let's not forget that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team
@@LordBrittish huh
The Gauntlet was made of Uru to harness the power of the Infinity Stones, so wouldn’t it make sense that Stormbreaker would be just as capable of dispersing the energy blast from the Gauntlet?
Uru isn't indestructible, just ask Hela. If she can break Mjolnir made of Uru but the infinity gauntlet can't touch it, then Hela would be stronger than Thanos even with the Full Gauntlet. And she was beaten by Surter, which would make him a being stronger than the being who could overpower a metal that beat a full Infinity Gauntlet.
Yup…
But then this video would have only been 30 seconds long 😂
Also the infinity gauntlet took damage with the snap which used all 6 stones
@@jefferickson8493Uru is used specifically to harness the stones. Not to beat Hela. Her being able to destroy Uru metal is irrelevant. And that logic doesn’t work, the metal is designed to be able to harness the stones. It’s not meant to be indestructible. Hela destroying that metal doesn’t equate to her being stronger than the stones or whatever you just tried to say. That would be like saying Batman is stronger than Superman because he can destroy kryptonite, and kryptonite can easily kill Superman.
@@jefferickson8493 no stormbreake is way stronger then mjnior and thanos was holding back severely the Russo brothers confirmed this also I see hella beating base thanos high diff blood lusted thanos ripped caps shield like paper that Shield was able to take attacks from mjnior so there relative in power
This doesn’t negate the fact that he had time change his strategy/decision while StormBreaker was flying towards him... I feel he fully intended to stop the weapon and couldn’t.
Me too, if he was able too it would have been either stop storm breaker or snap . I believe he was using atleast 90% of the stones power to blast at Thor maybe more
For real he couldve made a portal,changed reality,rewind time but i think in the moment he underestimated Thor
@@THEPHARAOH2 me too. I don't think he thought he would have had to use full power to stop stormbreaker. Because stormbreaker was supposed to be a myth, the gauntlet wasn't a myth, Odin had a replica in hit vault. So if the Gauntlet was already known, and stormbreaker was supposed to be the strongest weapon, then I definitely think it's alot strong than what ppl thinks, plus it has powers from groot aswell that no1 seems to think about too. So I think we will find out more about stronbreaker in later movies. We'll I hope atleast.
@@steveshypebeastandsneakerr4980 yea i hope in Thor 4 or GOTG 3 they explain it a little better because.it was just brought in for the sake.of the high stakes BUT i would like to bring up that in endgame Cap liftes stormbreaker so IDK
@@THEPHARAOH2 I believe he became worth after they brought every1 back, and then after getting his butt kicked by Thanos, and then stood back up, then he was worthy. Thats when I think he became worthy
To be fair he destroyed the ship Thor was on in a attempt to kill him. The surviving half of the Asgardians already were allowed to leave the ship. Thor was on Thanos' personal list of who he should kill. Where Thanos wanted to kill Thor repeatedly Hulk and Loki temporarily stalled him. Thanos believed the destruction of Thor's ship and the cold vast of space would be enough to kill Thor but was unaware that the GotG showed up to save him.
That and maybe he thought killing Loki might break him a bit? Sure they had a tough relationship, to put it mildly, but it obviously hurt Thor when he died in front of him. Thanos seems to slip from balanced death to focused punishment from time to time(toying with Starlord/The Guardians, replacing Nebula's parts, and torturing her in front of her sister). It may not be wanton killings but still somewhat sadistic. Also cuts into the indifferent theory slightly, trying to kill Thor and actually killing Loki, but they do have history
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@@KevinWayne guardians of the galaxy I believe
I believe you're right, and when he saw Thor again in Wakanda he was pissed and he wanted to finish him for good so he used the full power of The Guanlet on Thor in hopes of killing him but Thor's power in Storm Breaker was too strong for it.
But Thanos told Gamora that he left Thor alive so that GotG would go to Nowhere. It was his plan.
I have an alternate theory. In the comics, Thanos says he will give his enemy 1 chance to win.
In the film as even you point out, he could have destroyed any and all of the Avengers, at any time. He chose not to.
He even tells Thor, "You should have gone for the head."
Thanos is the master of gamesmanship.
He gave Thor one chance. Thor failed.
Oh wow
Yeah. It makes sense
Okay but if it was a "you get one chance" that would mean that Thor used that chance to defeat thanos by firing at Thanos first. Since he didn't defeat Thanos in "one chance" then it wouldn't make sense that Thanos would "hold back"
He almost lost the gauntlet during the fight on Titan.
I don't see how, having 4 stones - facing the Guardians and some of the Avengers and almost losing the Gauntlet...he would "hold back" even if he picks them off one-by-one.
He always does that. Everytime he attacks 1) he doesn't kill unless attacked
2) he has others kill and genocide for him
3) he knew Odin was a threat and it wasn't until he died...And... 3a) a "civil war" *Hela vs. Thor* lead to Ragnarok that Thanos could overpower the survivors of Asgard
...3b) Hulk attacks first - Thanos puts him down. Hulk is saved by Heimdall. Loki attacks first and gets his neck snapped
..3c) crushes James Rhodes Ironman suit...Hulk isn't anywhere near a threat.
BASICALLY - He knows how to assess a situation or set of events well enough that..he gets all 6 stones 🤦♂️
4) Just because the gauntlet and Stormbreaker were made from the same material does not explain how that spacemetal could withstand the what we see *multiple stones used to create a beam of energy to obliterate Thor.
I think that because it can summon the bifrost, that's what "beats" Thano's beam.
The bifrost would have to be made of the energy of all stones
1) space (to traverse the universe)
2) time (to traverse space)
3) mind (heimdall thinks it, person goes there...Thor thinks it, Thor goes there)
4) soul (to be able to locate persons across the universe)
5) reality (Asgard gets its strenth/power from persons who believe in them/their legends. Thus, Odin - being able to create a dimension (Hel) to trap Hela in would cresting a "type" of reality *a pocket dimension*
...As belief is tied to Asgard is toAsgard Odin is to Creator Figure...Thus, the Rainbow bridge/Bifrost would be capable of traveling dimensions
6) power (if this one needs to be explained..)
Soo...if we see the bifrost/rainbow color shield barrier Stormbreaker has as Thano's beam hits it
Wouldn't that be closer to how Stormbreaker could have beat the might of multiple stones ?
(Remember Thanos used 2 stones to break up a planet and teleport it at the same time. So it's not like he would just use one stone or think "I only need *x* to beat Thor when he knows the stuff I said lol
If thanos went bloodlust no one would’ve survived just like in the comics
An in the comics hulk takes down thanos pretty easily
@@juicyjay999 hulk was fucking cracked in the comics tho, he has infinite power so well yeh
True
You can even see In the wakandan fight right before the snap how Thanos tries to avoid killing the avengers and or causing serious injury but rather focuses on subduing them.....save for Vision ofcourse
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You can clearly see Thanos is using more than one stone, possibly all of them, but I thought it was obvious it channelled the power of the Infinity Gauntlet through the Bifrost elswhere like a portal.
That was my thoughts as well
Could you imagine though, some random dude just chilling somewhere in the nine realms, only to nearly get wrecked by a cosmic beam of destruction
@@damiansaturday6788 Sounds like a "What If" story to me!
Thanos from the past was enraged to know about how people around him had conspired to stop him.
@@DoctorZisIN when I think "enraged" I think of The Hulk, Thanos was not enraged because he expected traitors to his cause. Regardless of their views he was committed to it and their betrayals were of little matter to him. They were just tools after all, and end to a means... One does not become emotionally attached to a tool, unless your name is Thor and that was why Odin had problems with his favored son.
Going to go with the bifrost theory and that thanos didn't have full knowledge about how to use all the stones to their fullest. Not to mention its hard to tell how fast storm breaker was being thrown. Just because it appears not that fast to the audience of the movie doesn't mean Thor didnt throw it at mach 5-100. In the comics he throws it so fast he able to fly at light speed. I know the mcu is different but still.
The Bifrost theory is interesting, but isn't Asgard all but astriods at this point in the timeline? There'd be no Bifrost to redirect the energy.
@@TheCosplayInsanity the bi frost is a way to travel, it's not asgard.
@@TheCosplayInsanity except its established right off the bat that he's able to summon the bifrost.
Thanos was a totally different "person" during Infinity War than the BEAST he was in Endgame (2014 Thanos)
Yeah. It was that same beast that threatened Ronan in GOTG Vol.1. He was so scary at that point.
@@thedigitalbash1506 oh yeah, I forgot GOTG vol. 1 was the same time Endgame Thanos was from.
Because the EndGame Thanos hasn't lost his favorite daughter yet.
@@apolloc3131 Exactly. Endgame Thanos didn't know the sacrifices he will have to make to realize his dream.
Yeah he knew the sacrifices he knew everything lmao it was inevitable 😐 he looked threw his daughters memories he seen the fight on titian and his own death and owned that shit and went on a more tightened up mission!!!
We can rule out Thanos wanting to see who would survive since he never cared about earth to begin with. And Storm Breakers ability to displace energy makes perfect sense.
One quick note is that Thanos actually did decide when it came to one person whether he will be snapped or not. That person would be Tony Stark because Doctor Strange made sure Thanos gave his word to spare Tony Starks life.
PS storm breaker’s moving the infinity stones powers somewhere else is a theory not fact.
No it was random. Dr. Strange is the only person who knew who would survive the snap..... And Kang
@@themessage267 Actually I never saw this brought up but it may be true because Thanos clearly spared himself as well, and Nebula survived the snap, so it's not out of question he put a couple names on the list to survive.
I would be more inclined to believe the theory where Thanos wanted the snap to decide who died over the other because, when he snapped, he seemed just as surprised as Thor that the gauntlet was damaged and smoking. If he were afraid of damaging it, he probably would have expected that.
Just because he expected the damage doesn’t mean he still couldn’t have a moment of “oh shit, yep. That’s pretty bad”
@@antonradke5943 That’s true. But added to the fact that he could have turned people into slugs or half a pair of socks without much damage to the gauntlet, yet he didn’t, also makes more sense to me with the first theory.
When I was watching it for the first time, I wasn't surprised Stormbreaker was flying through the infinity beams. I thought when Thor showed up in Wakanda, the war was won. I even yelled something like "Yeah, we just won!" So, the snap was a surprise to me.
That’s cringe ngl
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@@daniell5740 ?
"We?" 😂
@@alexz.8302 Yes. That is something people say when they are rooting for a team.
I like this theory.
Thanos embraced a 'holy' war after he got the space stone. He removed his armor and was no longer engaged in a battle to kill and massacre. Assembling the stones would take away the effort of going planet-to-planet as Gamora so rightly said. But, I do still wonder juat a little if he fully.grasped the extemt of power at his hand, and how to use it. To alter reality by snapping away half of all life is a tremendous feat, which literally roasted the gauntlet. So, yes, maybe, he withheld that power as he dealt with the Avengers one by one, little by little. I'm not so sure that Stormbreaker, wielded by Thor, can overpower all 6 stones.
Sure. Does anyone understand ALL the uses of a simple hammer the first time they hold one?
That's a conundrum that can't be known. Therefore, this whole video and ALL other theories since and thereafter are a complete waste of time. I just came here to say that.
I think if you notice thanos was adapting and throughout the movie he was getting better at using the stones...by the time he shows up in wakanda he was untouchable
@@wh0_odat644 throughout his quest, he undoubtedly learned what each can do. On Titan, he was at their mercy with 4 stones in hand. If Peter was able to keep himself in check, likely Thanos would have been done.
At the moment he got the mind stone, he barely had a moment to embrace that surge before defending his conquest. Whether he threw everything he had into defending himself from Thor and/or Stormbreaker remains questionable to me. How do you defend yourself against a God and a weapon never before used in the universe? He may have had a bit of predicament to react instinctively and effectively. Stormbreaker didn't kill him then, but the stones almost did when he tried to destroy them. We might never know what he was trying to achieve at that moment against his adversary who "he never fought twice".
Yet, Thor was certain enough that he needed this weapon to defeat Thanos... who had only two stones in hand by that time.
@@teligon I dig, even tho he clearly fought with alot of restraint through out the movie...even on Titan if his intent was to kill they would have all died
@@wh0_odat644 the writers and producers are just brilliant throughout the entire series of films, in how they bring everything together. You never really know for sure who is going to shine. Thor stole Infinity War. He went on a quest to see who was behind the motivation to collect infinity stones and willed himself to do what was necessary after losing everything. In the opening scenes after Thanos killed Heimdall, he said "You're going to die for that."
He would land the last blow of the avengers at the end of the film, with the words, "I told you... you'd die for that."
Didn't miss his mark in the beginning of Endgame. No mistakes repeated.
And in the final epic battle, he would say, "Let's kill him properly this time." Nothing deterred his ferocity.
But he did get an ass-kicking, though, when the Trinity fought Thanos alone.
I remember watching the movies like damn Thanos really is holding back. Why not go all out? But these theories actually make sense:
-Dont overuse the stones and cause damage to the gauntlet. You wont get another one.
-Doing what needs to be done is not personal. Only kill people if absolutely necessesary.
Loki: you can't kill me I'm a god.
Thanos: I take that personally.
He killed hiemdel
@@dperrin1985 because it was needed
Lmao his death was not needed 🤣😹🤣 he already fulfilled his task
@@distantsangre4732 he didn’t want him teleporting more people lol
Infinity gauntlet: I have all the power
Stormbreaker: hold my beer
Bifrost theory is basically "why don't we take bikini bottom, and move it somewhere else!?" And I love it
In the back of my mind I have always had a theory that stormbreaker wasn't overpowering the stones themselves but rather the gauntlet. The dwarf king designed and created both the gauntlet and stormbreaker, it would make sense that he would create some kind of hidden weakness within the gauntlet (think, exhaust port in the death star), and then created stormbreaker to be able to exploit this weakness. Just a theory.
A good one
this is basiaclly word for word what i said about it; the dwarf seemed to be very sure stormbreaker WAS THE most powerful weapon he'd ever witnessed... and the fact it hadnt been crafted yet screams that odin + dwarf KNEW this fact and purposefully let the universe THINK the gauntlet was the most powerful, when in reality; stormbreaker would have amplified odins power... which would have made odin powered up on levels perhaps he KNEW he'd need someday against LARGER enemies (hints at galactus). idk if odin knew for sure if he'd need to sleep BEFORE all of that though, maybe he did indeed let his guard down and thats how this all unfolds, but in the end; odin and dwarf were Scheming Rune powered cosmic weapons since the beginning so stormbreaker being a "fail safe" incase SOmEoNe* goes nuts.
We already know it the Russos stated that Stormbreaker has resistance to the infinity Gauntlet and that Thanos didn’t know what was coming at him.
As a long time collector, I remember the Simonson run with fondness and nostalgia. As I recall, Odin had Stormbreaker crafted specifically for Beta Ray Bill. My question: Where is Beta Ray Bill?
That is correct
I agree but given circumstances none of those factors are present anymore. Odin was part of that. They also don't want to exact copy and past to avoid predictability
This is an entirely different universe brother.
@@bobbyhempel1513 so true.moo
Beta Ray Bill was last seen in Thor: Ragnarok, he was one of the champions and you can see a statue of him
Im kinda more impressed that the handle didn't get cut in half from Thanos #2's Sword. He clearly uses the wood part to block a cutting swipe with just thr handle yet it can cut Vibranium?!?!
Something to do with groot
Its prob infused with magic
magical runes crafted by all father himself my boiiiis. groots arm was a sacrifice to the weapon ultimately empowering it to dah max! Rune Magic is big with Odin, stormbreaker (probably) has them ALL lol
It was said in the beginning of the movie: Thor went to Nidavellir to get a weapon capable of defeating Thanos. It was already stated then, that such weapon would be immune to the Infinity Gauntlet, being created by Eitri.
I think it’s simpler than what you said. The gauntlet is made from Uru in order to contain the power of the stones and allow the user to manipulate its power. Therefore Uru has properties that the stones cannot harm (until they’re used in full power). Therefore Stormbreaker (made of Uru) is resistant to the power of the stones, naturally. So as long as Thanos didn’t use them at full power like he did in Endgame, stormbreaker would have always beat the stones.
Its not resistant to the power of the stones,more like it can absorb energy efficiently just like the gaunlet so the stormbreaker was able to tank the beam of the six stones.
@@seeker2760 tomato tomato
@@seeker2760 so that would mean the gauntlett was continually absorbing the energy of the gauntlet whilst on Thanos' arm. Where did the energy go? Into Thanos? Then what. There has to be a resistance factorto it. Just like electricity flowing through a circuit, it has to go somewhere unless it is contained. If the gauntlet can contain the energy then there has to be a resistance factor involved. But that all if we are talking logically which none of this is. It's all fantasy, so people can come up with as many different ideas as they want.
@@thirdeye200 The energy doesnt have to go anywhere, it just got absorbed byy the metal as it has magical properties.U cant use real life scienece to explain how 6 magical stones work
what i wanted to say was stormbreaker isnt resistant to its powers,it can just absorb energy well.so if thanos used a different type of attack like changing the molecular structure of stormbreaker and turning it into some other object or opened a portal to send it to a black hole then stormbreaker couldnt have resisted those type of attacks in any way.
@@seeker2760 The gauntlet and Stormbreaker are made from the same materials so whatever stormbreaker does so does the gauntlet. If we can't use real world science in any of this, the whole video and discussions are null and void and pointless talking about until the writers (who are the only ones who really know) say something.
The most likely thing that happened is that Thanos doesn't really feel like fighting the Avengers because he will just use the snap as random 50% dusted away.
Also explains why past Thanos without the stones gives a better fight scene.
His scene with strange on titan was nice
All good theories however I believe the odin force simply output the energy from the base attack fantasy used even though that attack contained energy from all 6 stones it was simply an energy beam vs possibly the full Odin force being thrown In Thors rage for revenge
I tried saying it's a kings weapon that can summon the bi frost is Marvel explaining to you that thor is now in control of his father's power source
When we see 3 or 4 thors running around in thor 4 I'm sure this will be expanded on
I think that is absolutely the best description I've ever herd about this !!! There's been so many theories about this... the wayyou explain things is amazing 👏!!! Thank you!!!
One theory I'd like to further enhance this is that Etri could have also put a flaw in the Gauntle.The Gauntle won't work as well against other Uru weapons. That may explain why when he was fighting Carol, he separated the Power Stone to knock her back, even with Tony's Gauntle.
Oooo, I like this idea. Etri deliberately but subtly making an imperfect gauntlet for Thanos gives the dwarf some agency in the fate of the universe.
@@TheCosplayInsanity if that's the case, etri deserved what happened to him, what Thanos did to the dwarves. They betrayed him, and Thanos found out what they did so he rekt them.
Remember ragnaroks whole point being Thor didn’t need a weapon. Then all Infinity war was all about him getting a weapon.
Needs it for the Bifrost
Star Wars: We have Stormtroopers
MCU: We have Stormbreaker.
He didn't "allow" Drax and Mantis to retain their normal forms, the directors have said that the idea was that without the other 5 stones, the effects of reality warping effects of the reality stone were temporary.
I love how storm breaker just comes out of the mold already super fucking sharpened and tempered and polished without a second between scenes lol cooooooooooool
It’s a movie
If they mold was perfectly made like we all know it was, it would have been ready to go straight off that piece
Elven magic
Also more than a second
I think it had to do with the FACT that STORMBREAKER was specifically designed to defeat the power of the stones. Remember that Thanos killed all of the other dwarfs and demolished Etri's hands in order to prevent them from creating a weapon, STORMBREAKER, that could defeat the power of the gauntlet. The dwarfs were designing STORMBREAKER as they were being forced by Thanos to build the gauntlet. That's why there was a cast readily available.
STORMBREAKER had the ability to absorb that energy, plus it was being propelled by the full might of Thor's power. Thor was hell-bent to keep his promise for the death of his best friend, Heimdahl.
0:36 Not just that: They ARE the concepts in and of themselves.
Writers already said if Thanos had more time to learn how to use the stones, he could've easily beaten Thor+Stormbreaker. He was caught off guard.
his hammers absorb cosmic energy and one even houses the mother storm
The comic writers who came up with the mother storm aspect of mjolnir dont know the history of thor...bad writing
@@locks4 kool but absorbing cosmic energy is a fact and good writing that’s left out of every movie so far now that’s bad writing Thor is how many movies in and we still haven’t got how powerful he really is yet but one movie explains capt marvel dr strange scarlet witch etc
The only thing I can say to the part where Thanos wanted the infinity stones to choose who loved and died was that he had made sure to keep stark alive as Dr Strange asked
I personally think Eitri could have put a fail safe in the guantlet the guantlet after all was designed to be something feared but against such a weapon like the stormbreaker a weapon fit for a king a kings weapon i would see them installing a failsafe on all there armor against any armour before it like an all father seal plus eitri was probably pissed for slaughtering his ppl
I think Eetree (or however you spell his name) made stormbreaker to be able to absorb the power of the stones and redirect it like the gauntlet does
This is the most plausible theory, after all Thor told him to make his most powerful weapon, and he knew why he was making it.
I wonder if it randomly decided and left Thanos.
Or, Thanos had the snap decide everyone else EXCEPT himself. 🤔
These are all great theories and fit within the context of the MCU, without resorting to wild conjecture. I like it. Good job.
Any info we know about stormbreaker is if it had a normal handle, but it doesnt. The handle was make from groots arm. I believe that added something extra to stormbreaker
Love all the ideas. Going along with how Thanos dealt with and spoke about who would live and die, I like the thought he was holding back. He had just done so several times immediately preceding this action. 👍🏻
In my opinion, the infinity gauntlet basically acts like the Bifrost mechanism Asgardians use for intergalactic travel that's why Stormbreaker was able to overpower it. Following the theory, Thanos meant to banish Thor from Earth by using the Bifrost generated by the gauntlet but unknowingly failed because of the capabilities of Stormbreaker.
The Bifrost was constructed because dark energy, which fueled the transportation, causes much strain to use by both the conjurer and the traveler alike. Asgardians constructed the rainbow bridge and Himinbjorg to act as catalyst for effortless and harmless travel using the Bifrost. This very same principle was used by Eitri in the construction of the gauntlet, much like how Tony miniaturized the arc reactor, Eitri did it to the gauntlet; a miniaturized Himinbjorg. By default, as shown in the first Thor movie, overloading the Himinbjorg produced catastrophic results. Applying the same principle, Thanos knew not to overload the gauntlet throughout his conquest, reserving it for the "snap".
damn dog imagine if odin just used a few of the stones to power defense mechanisms through the bifrost machine on asgard!? that stone vision has could have turned the bifrost into a person... who could have used the other few stones to ENSURE flawless protection against ALL enemies... eh i guess marvel universe would be boring then huh? lol
I firmly believe that he only used one of the stones to send that beam, we've never really seen multiple stones being used at the same time "Combing the power of multiple stones, when making an attack" (from what i'm aware of), besides the snap.
“Turn the storm breaker to a pillow” 😂😂
I already figured this out years ago. It can overpower the gauntlet because it, like the avengers, have something called plot armor!
Plot armor and rule of cool.
That sums it up.
I still think Infinity war Thor is the strongest we've seen so far,
Excluding Wanda vision Wanda, Hela and surtur
@@yueffstueff6542 but he got an extra power boost, from the eternal flame
@@yueffstueff6542 no, it's not even that. You are seriously comparing a 3meter surtur to a 300 one? Lol, there is a difference, dude
From what i understand which is prolly the same thing here but it was said in order to make the snap it took a certain amount of power and he had to minimize the power he was using to fight so he would still have enough to make the snap
“Human forms” 😂 I love how we’re just the blueprint for all living beings, even aliens born light years away from Earth
It’s called Convergent Evolution
@@jaymz010 nah I think it’s just humans having no idea what’s out there so it just makes sense for convenience sake. Just like everybody ignoring Thor breathing heavily while in outer space on Nedivillair😂😂
Sure, let's use frames of references for things not seen by anyone...
There's actually a theory in the Marvel Universe that all humanoids the Super heroes encounter, are the descendants of future humans (time being circular). Also humanoids have a propensity for conquest, expansion and destruction, so few other non-related intelligent beings remain.
With this analysis in mind, I now believe it was for both reasons listed, that Stormbreaker was able to overpower the gauntlet.
Good theories but I don't think the directors even thought of this. I think it was as simple as the plot demanded it. We as the audience always come up with better theories than they do because they don't even read comics they subvert expectations for the sake of it and say "tadah... see"
I believe they just have to dumb it down for the audience, because trying to be true to the comics would be too confusing. Probably half the people watching never read comics. There would be no way storm breaker would stand a chance against the gauntlet with it standing up to eternity/infinity etc
Thats why Thor told Cap.. "here you take the little one" I get it now..
They just gave Thor his moment and honestly Thor is a strong asf character let us not downplay him like they did our beloved Hulk!!
In a way they downplayed Thor in the beginning. We all know the Hulk and Thor would have charged him together and destroy Thanos and his goons the moment they entered the ship. Not to mention they had Valkyrie, Heimdall, and Loki who could have taken care of the children of Thanos
But Thanos has all the infinity stones
@@Grievingbow Thanos didn't have all of them when he attacked Thor and his company on the ship, but he did have the power stone. Which is a major game changer and he also had his war gear on that's a buffer against attacks.
Each battle against Thanos appears gratuitous if not in light of him choosing to leave it to the stones rather than spaghettify everyone in turn.
That's a very good point that he had struck first aiming a likely non-fatal blow at Thor and not Stormbreaker. That's all you need to make sense of it.
The bifrost idea seems silly and superfluous if you ask me.
Loki: Why do I always die?
The power of the infinity stones depends on how strong the weilder is. Nobody can use the stones to their max potential . Except Ultron
Stormbreaker didn’t overpower the gauntlet.
Thanos fired his blast *at* Thor.
Stormbreaker has the power of the bi-frost.
Thor threw his Stormbreaker *at* the beam that Thanos fired at *him.*
The bifrost caused this energy to be teleported away.
Bifrost is a form of teleportation.
Thanos might have done many other things with the Gauntlet: He could have turned Thor into ice and shattered him as he did in the comics.
He would have turned Stormbreaker into ribbons like he did to Drax. But he wasn’t aiming at Stormbreaker - he aimed at Thor.
So give Thor credit for a desperate and brilliant strategy in an impossible situation.
Ultimately all of Thor’s efforts were doomed as Thanos had the reality stone, the time stone, and the soul stone making him effectively invincible.
I know the ‘fans’ hate that fact but it’s true.
At the end of the film Stormbreaker simply reversed out of Thanos chest and fell to the ground while he teleported away.
In the last scene it is clearly shown that Thanos has no damage to his chest. The damage is reversed in time - same as with Dr. Strange and Dormamu.
You can’t defeat 6 Infinity Stones with an Axe - no matter how powerful.
Per Etri - the purpose of the axe - was to *kill Thanos* - not over power the Infinity Stones.
He did kill him even tho he didn’t actually cross over, the soul stone granted him new life.
@@Arjr72 No he didn’t.
Thanos didn’t didn’t die in Infinity War, and Thor did no harm to him whatsoever.
He went to the soul world because of the snap - this would have happened *regardless* of the encounter with Thor.
If as you want to pretend - Thor had hurt hurt him with the StormBreaker - he would *not* have been able to snap, and survive.
He did this all the while the Stormbreaker was in his chest - and only then, did he use the stones again - and reverse the axe out of his chest and teleport away to the farm.
I know Thor fans don’t like this: But Thor did no damage to Thanos, he was never a threat, and Thanos specifically told him to go for the head - because *that’s what he wanted Thor to do do in End Game.*
If you don’t want to accept this, you need to explain why he never killed Thor.
He could have done so at any time, before and after the snap.
You also need to ask why he *left Thor the Axe.*
Then explain *why he destroyed [atomized] the stones - while leaving the Avengers to come and find him.*
He wanted to die after completing his mission - this is what he believes in.
Good grief he even says this when he sees Thor cut off his head: *And that is destiny fullfilled.*
I don’t know what more the writers and directors have to do to spell things out.
Thanos opens up a portal to the Rainbow Bridge in an attempt to send Thor back to Asgard?
I don't think stormbreaker can be manipulated and changed into a pillow because it's too powerful...
Reality stronger bum
Its actually made to absorb the infinity stones power so its the perfect counter to them...
I've been saying this since watching the movie. I was familiar with the abilities of stormbreaker, not once did I think it "overpowered" the blast from the gauntlet. But people wanted to focus so much on the power scaling and inconsistencies in this movie totally ignoring the obvious
All the Thanos had to do was create a hole with the space Stone to the other side of the universe and stormbreaker would have been gone problem solved
Or Thanos could have made Stormbreaker intangible like he did Hulk in the armor and let it pass through him.
Except the point is, he couldn't or he would have, right?
@@JacobHJones I think you're almost there. The difference is psychological. With all the Avengers and Guardians attacking him, he reacted (save for Strange) like they were all beneath him. Less than beasts, mere flies to be swatted aside. He reacted so strangely when Cap stopped his hand, because Cap didn't use Mjolnir, or magic bands, or alien vines, or plasma blasts. Cap just stopped the mighty, inevitable hand of Thanos with "mere mortal" hands. Once Thanos recovered from the shock of this, he put Cap down like the rest.
When Thanos was fighting on Titan, he was ambushed, he was grieving, and he barely had control of the Stones he was using. Even as soon as Wakanda, that had all changed. He put aside his grief, he refocused on the goal, and he better understood the power at his disposal. Everything the heroes threw at him on Titan, he had an answer for in the stones. Only Strange, whose powers rivaled the Stones, and Stark who refused to go down until the bitter end, could even resist him.
Then comes a total surprise attack from Stormbreaker. A weapon that did not exist until Thanos already had most of the Stones. A weapon forged to be wielded by a King and used to kill gods. When this suddenly comes hurtling out of the blue at full power, Thanos does not think of it as a fly to be swatted. He is afraid. He forgets the power of the Stones. All that goes through his head is fear and rage of something truly powerful. Could the Stones be used to portal it away, move it out of phase, or turn it into bubbles? Possibly. But not by him at that moment. When he partially remembered how powerful the Stones could make him, he blindly turned their full, raw power toward repulsing the attack in the way of his older, original training. He met an unstoppable force in kind, thinking that would be enough. Hoping it would. He had already lost the battle in his head.
@@JacobHJones As a follow-up to what I just said, I will also add the fairly new acquisitions of the Time Stone and Mind Stone, two things he could not use on Titan.
With the Power Stone, Thanos no longer lacked the raw force needed to finish his task. Any planet he went to could simply be destroyed, if he so chose. But Thanos had to reckon with that change in his strength. That's why he tested himself against Loki, Thor, and Hulk.
Next, Thanos acquired the Space Stone. Now he could go to any planet in an instant, and I believe it was even confirmed the Space Stone acted as a homing agent to help him find the other Stones. But Thanos had to reckon with the smallness of his world. No more spaceships were necessary, no more running, no more flying. He could just be where he wanted to be, and Thanos took a while to grasp that. That's where Knowhere comes in; he realized he could get there and take the next stone before anyone could stop him.
Then he got the Reality Stone, and I think that's where Thanos really started to break. He had had Power and Space before the stones, just not the totality. He had had the Power to invade and raze worlds. He had had the ability to travel great distances through the universe via his ships. But Reality was always a grappling contest he lost. Whatever he did, he had no more control over what was Real than anyone else. Once he got the Reality Stone, had the Power to make those delusions real, and the Space Stone to further enhance his control, Thanos could not possibly have a concept of limits. To him, he could do anything, which had to have caused some choice paralysis. He played out an entire alternate scene in which the Guardians defeated him, made it unreal, and prevented them from actually stopping him. Later on, after the next Stone, he'd even change reality to bring Titan back to how it was. Only to change it back because he'd long since accepted the reality of that, embraced it. With Power, Space, and Reality alone, Thanos could eventually overcome the whole universe with his will like Ego had planned. But he craved more.
So he got the Soul Stone. And no Power could bring Gamora back. No Space would reveal her to be hiding from him, nor allow him to escape his crime. Not even the power of Reality could change back what he had done. Gamora was gone, forever. Even when he got the next Stone from Strange, going back would not give him back HIS Gamora, the one he sacrificed. And I don't think Thanos ever fully appreciated what the Soul Stone could do. He used it for three things: to reveal which copy of Strange was the real one, to failingly oppose the Stormbreaker, and to perform the Snap.
@@JacobHJones These were the powers which Thanos had to come to grips with on Titan. Powers I think he died before properly appreciating. But after he bested Stark and the indomitable Doctor Strange, and put down all the lesser allies found on Titan, he gained a power we never saw him use properly: save for once.
The Time Stone. Thanos allowed the Mind Stone to be swiped from right under his nose, and only when he saw the consequences did he realize "I have the power to make this never happen." He used the stone then, to rebuild the stone and take it for himself. And then he died never truly using the Time Stone for the intended purpose, nor demonstrating that he grasped its value. All of Time, all cause and effect, had been laid open to him. And yet Thanos carried on in the present, looking to a future even he saw as inevitable. He could have used the Stones to rewrite history, changing all of reality in all physical space so that things had never been unbalanced, and no one would ever know to challenge his decision. But he was held back by pride: he wanted the universe to know him and be grateful.
Finally, the Mind Stone. And I think this sealed the Stormbreaker encounter, and the subsequent destruction of the Stones. With this final stone, Thanos understood in totality what he had done. And when the god-breaking Stormbreaker came plummeting toward him, hurled by a wrathful God of Thunder who had little left to lose, I'm sure the Mind Stone pummeled the Mad Titan's already unstable mind with screaming thoughts of "OH NO WE'RE BONED!" explaining to him the many vast powers of the Stormbreaker and how royally screwed he'd be if the weapon hit him. If it took off his arm, if it took off his head, he would be denied of his goal. He had no focus to out-strategize Thor, even if a Stone could have given him all the Time he needed.
But...maybe the Gauntlet did. Maybe the Mind Stone influenced Space and Reality, so that instead of killing Thanos, the weapon landed somewhere he could survive it. So that it could not physically land anywhere else. I don't know if that was at all Thanos' doing, but it sounds like something the Mind Stone can and would do.
wasnt the bitfrosst used as a weapon in thor 1?and someone even mentioned that the bitfrost uses massive amounts of energy to use. Its possible that instead of absorbing the energy away, stormbreaker is actually using the bitfrost itself as a weapon to counter the atack.
Was Thanos holding back, more than likely as Thanos was not trying to exert his will. Additionally in light of Thanos opting to pacify rather than kill, its clear the absolute power didn't corrupt him, meaning he was actually the good guy, granted the mission resulted in the erasure from existence half of all life. He didn't kill half of all life he removed them from existance.
A bit off topic… but seeing Thor fight next to Cap made me realize that in big fights, heavies like Thor and Hulk would probably be more effective is the squishy Avengers like Cap, Widow and Hawkeye werent on the field. They could just unleash without having to hold back.
It could be because Stormbreaker was fully forged, this combined with the unlocked full power of Thor made Stormbreaker capable of standing up to the power of that blast and stick into Thanos.
For those who are not following, Mjolnir was never fully forged in the Norse Saga, as Loki sabotaged the forging process. Mjolnir was intended to be a a two handed war hammer, but it wasn't fully forged and as a result became a one handed war hammer.
This could be true for the MCU, if Mjolnir isn't a fully forged war hammer, then if someone fully forged Mjolnir again, it could be twice as strong, perhaps able to summon a Bifrost or create vortex portals if fully forged.
We've also seen what happened when all the stones are used at once, Thanos had it fused to his hand after he used all 6 stones to destroy each other, so it is also possible when Stormbreaker was cutting through the energy beam that beam wasn't a result of all the stones being used.
The mjolnir part is irrelevant since this is MCU's Norse not actual and in the mcu Hela used it centuries before Loki was born
also didn't The gauntlet fuse to thanos's hand when he did the snap to destroy half of all life in the universe and he was talking to Thor with stormbreaker stuck in his chest. not when he used The gauntlet to destroy the stones into Atoms.
I could be wrong, but I believe that was the way it happened. that the gauntlet fuse to Thanos his hand when he snapped to use all the stones power to destroy half the life in the universe the same way it messed up Hulks hand when he snapped to bring back half the life in the universe. the hulk's hand became totally damaged because he had to use all the stones at once just like Thanos did when he snapped away half of all the life in the universe at once
I agree with the fact that thanos held back and was also taken by surprise but I don't care this is an unrivaled feat in the mcu, thor overpowered a blast with 6 infinity stones man
I have a simpler theory thoo, Infinity Stones when used individually are more powerful. Since, They all control each of the six fundamental aspects of life.
I think this was further evidenced by Thanos' blasting of Carol Danvers across the battlefield in Endgame. He could ve easily sent a blast like he did against Thor. But then, He acted like he knew Captain Marvel could absorb the blast itself. So, He decided to take out the power stone, which is designed to overpower everything in the universe. So, Thanos was smart in that scene.
There is one detail I would like to bring up that kinda contradicts your theory. It seems Thanoss' snap was not entirely unbiased, since Nebula and Tony Stark survived, and earlier in the movie Thanoss made deals with Gamora and Doctor Strange to keep both alive. Also, given that those two were instrumental in the whole "one reality" thing, it seemed, (at least to me) that Thanoss intentially left them alive.
I do think stormbreaker was alil stronger that explained. Even tho Thanos didn't hit Thor with the strongest blast, he knows how strong Thor is ,so I do believe he held back alil to keep from hurting the gauntlet ,but I think he shot as powerful blast as he possibly could without destroying the gauntlet. Because when he would blast some1 with 1 stone, he hit them about as hard as he could with the single stones.
Stormbreaker can open the bifrost , Dark energy is above light , by the way bifrost and 6 infinity stones have the same colors so probably Stormbreaker can be used against infinite energy as it possesses Dark energy. Thor still does not know about the Thor force which is passed to him after Odin past away . So may be we get to see super powerful Thor in the near future.
I thought stormbreaker channeled the power of the Odin Force/ Thor Force. The uru metal plus all that godly energy may be enough to do something especially if thanos underestimated him.
Storm breaker was possibly created to stop Thor if Odin needed to do so.
MY THEORY ☝🏽
Much like the Green Lantern rings, the gauntlet requires Thought - Imagination - Will
But in that split second moment Thanos used the gauntlet against Thor, he didn’t have time to think.
It was just an act of desperation. Not harnessing any one particular stones ability. Just an impulsive strike back using all the stones, but for not any particular purpose. Like a panicked scream
…given the way he easily dealt with the combined efforts of Strange, Iron man, Spiderman and the guardians, I doubt it! There is more to stormbreaker than meets the eye
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You’ve missed my point 🙄
@@jaymz010 …now that you have “spelled it out” clearly I did. My apologies
i still think thor with stormbreaker makes him magnitudes stronger than any of the Avengers, mainly due to the fact that with all the help of everyone attacking thanos at once they only ever got a single tiny scratch on him yet Thor easily chops his head off in one swing
Just imagine in the middle of the fight on Titan, something very small happened differently, and the TVA shows up And shuts everything down casually. It would be like if a colony of ants were battling a hornet, and a boot comes in and kills them all.
It does make a lot of sense. Plus it adds on to what we see in Endgame where thanos is displaying his full power without the infinity stones. He essentially has all the power but only uses it to get what he needs, even if that involves sparing his enemies. He is a warrior and a good one, but he did get a bit complacent with his power, thinking he just needed to use it against everything instead of getting out of the way, which why stormbreaker hit him in the chest.
I wonder with the new multiverse born we will get to eventually see a 3rd version of Thanos that’s more like the MCU-Marvel,Comic,Universe. Who only collected the infinity stones to snap and impress the Goddess of Death?
Sounds good to me. I'd also like to get the old Hulk back as the current one is a weakling rather an unstoppable beast.
@@TheZombiesAreComing I'd just like to see Hulk be more of a badass even while retaining intelligence.
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The Hulk of Planet Hulk had some degree of intelligence so perhaps that's a place to start.
It is extremely important to remember his power comes from anger and no anger means no power. Being angry also means acting before thinking so the two ideas will clash.
Now imagine him with a DC crossover and a red lantern ring. He would be near unstoppable.
Man, all these inside details you share, always make things sooooooooo much cooler 🤘 It's a good fix too 😆
The infinity gauntlet isn’t designed to release energy beams instead each stone is an aspect of the of the universe such as time, space, reality and the rest so it didn’t overpowered gauntlet it over powered energy beam which isn’t as impressive. the only stone that is designed to release power/energy is the power Stone so already we can say that Stormbreaker didn’t overpower the gauntlet but rather just An energy beam from the power Stone. But even then he didn’t overpowered he just cut through it all deflected it just like iron man did with his shield where do you like blocked it he didn’t overpowering it just deflected it away so it could carry on travelling towards thanos chest. Should have gone for the head.
Even the mind stone could have projected beams as vision was able to do so in age of ultron.
@@seeker2760 yes but again the mind stone isn’t used to fire energy beams that’s why it didn’t completely obliterated Ultron because it had the infinite power behind it and it was designed to be used as a weapon then it would have disintegrated Ultron instantly but I didn’t because it’s just another aspect of life not a weapon. However the Stormbreaker is designed to be a weapon which is why it is able to deflect the beams from the gauntlet.
@@finnrussell320 " the mind stone isn’t used to fire energy beams"
it clearly does and that was shown.
"that’s why it didn’t completely obliterated Ultron"
the same argument can be applied to the power stone,it also didnt instantly obliterate everything.
and more importantly vibranium cannot harness the power of a infinity,not even uru can so that argument doesnt hold value.
if it was just an energy beam from the power stone alone then why show it as multicoloured?
clearly each stones power was colour coded so that the audience knows which stone is being used.The fact the beam was white implies that all 6 stones(or at least more than 1) were used in some way.
@@seeker2760 you are wrong. The mind stone isn’t designed to be used to fire energy beams. Yes it was used for it but it’s not designed for it that’s the difference. As seen in guardians of the Galaxy I think a celestial use the power Stone to completely obliterated a planet so I’m not sure why you brought up the power Stone not being used as a weapon when clearly that is exactly what it is.
Eitri- stormbreaker is a weapon of legend. Never in my 1000 years have I ever built it.
Thor- but you have the mold to cast it? Were you just busy or..?
The Infinity stone only works on in universe stuff, and it has been hinted off that uru, the metal Thor stomebringer was made out off, is and isn't apart of their universe.
🤔I think Thor share the same properties as a bi-dimensional entity.
What if the stones kill Thanos (if he wants them to decide who lives and dies) as well?
Thanos was holding back the whole time. He never in his entire career went around just killing everybody. He fought when there was resistance and then randomly executed half the population. He was never shown to be a cold blooded killer. His "work" was, in his mind, designed to save life and make people live happier lives. It was not personal for him and he even says exactly that. His energy beam attack was aimed at Thor, not Stormbreaker, and therefore can be deduced it was intended to disable Thor, not stop a flying Uru axe or destroy it. None of Thanos' attacks damaged the gauntlet short of the snap, so it's easy to determine the amount of power being channeled was not enough to overcome the integrity of Uru and cause any damage to Stormbreaker.
Not sure if I love the marvelous or the stupendous wave more
I like the 2nd theory too. It’s puts a special ability into the axe that I didn’t know
Ah yes, the strongest avenger
0:25, thor flying into ships like captain marvel, the only avenger to have thanos on his knees, and killed him once
what if stormbreaks was the gauntlets weakness designed by the blacksmith as a failsafe?
i think he definitely is holding back... which explains why the other thanos from 2012 that came back in endgame was able to fight all the avengers together and still gain upperhand despite having NO infinity stones... because that thanos is using all his might to fight and not holding back...
Kinda wish we'd all stop calling it The Decimation. It literally refers to the Roman practice of punishing 10% at random.
That's pretty dark, but sounds even more appropriate WITH that information than without
Great video! I feel like its all speculation until we get a definitive answer...but i love the energy displacement theory!
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It didn't actually look to me like a singular beam. Looked like he was firing all of them singularly alongside the others. Whether they coalesce down the beam doesn't mean the beam at that point is more powerful. And we've seen all kinds of things deflect singular beams from infinity stones. We know Vibranium can withstand a direct blast, and whatever metal Corvus spear was made from can deflect one. It's not that crazy to think a godly weapon like that could blast through 6 beams.
Another thing to consider is the handle. It's made of Groot's arm, who 'sacrificed himself' (just with some pain) to complete Stormbreaker.
I wonder if the Soul Stone responded to Groot's will, similarly to how Steve Rogers was able to stop Thanos' strike, and negated it or something. idk I like the bifrost theory though.
This makes perfect sense to me. It seems very obvious looking back that Thanos was not fighting to his full potential in infinity war. Especially at the final fight scene in endgame where Thanos was not at all concerned with saving anyone from this universe, he appears to unleash his much more brutal fighting ability on the big 3 avengers. I like these theories. Makes me excited about upcoming films and the continued marvel saga altogether.
My theory was he decided to take it so he could say 'should have aimed for the head' because he knew it wasn't going to kill him and wanted to rub salt into the wound, he is after all 'the MAD titan'
I was SHOCKED (pun intended) when Thanos got hit by that crazy ⚡ blast!! It was the first attack that put him down HARD, Then he shot off a blast from all 6 stones but not to the full existent of the Gauntlets power or it would have torched his arm like when he did the Snap. It was definitely a powerful blast by Thanos but he couldn't attack a 100 percent so that's why I believe Stormbreaker overpowered all 6 stones to have not aimed for the head!! Stupid move Thor. They lost the battle but ultimately won the war!
Although this is still a theory not confirmed by the directors or producers or writers. But the theory sounds really awesome.
Scene director: Yea.. that was the reason, sure. Thank you.
As another already commented, Stormbreaker was able to divert the gauntlet's power blast elsewhere. That's because its wielder can command the Rainbow Bridge, a reality warping means of transport. In fact, if you look closely, not only do you see the main thrust of the gauntlet's power blast, but you can see a rainbow-like coruscanting of power where the hammer meets the gauntlet's power beam.
You can also see along the outer edges of the beam the power signatures of the individual stones.
Conclusion: Thanos wasn't properly using the gauntlet.
After being slammed by Thor's uber-powerful lightning blast, augmented by the hammer, Thanos panicked and just blasted at Thor with a largely uncontrolled power beam (the evidence of this is the individual power signatures visible along the edges of the beam, as noted). If Thanos hadn't panicked, he could have used the stones in any number of ways to stop the hammer before it got even close. But he fell back on brute force in his panic instead of using more subtle means.
I think it was a bit of all of them (Except the Bifrost thing...that one make no sense.) BUT also Thanos not wanting to damage HIMSELF in the process. He knew the power of the stones could destroy the gauntlet so he didn't want to use the full might of it so that the gauntlet wasn't destroyed, but also that he wasn't killed by the effects before he could snap.