Stormbreaker Was a Contingency Plan to Kill THOR Not THANOS

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  • @themarvelouswave1948
    @themarvelouswave1948  3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    "The Stormbreaker" Hmmmm?😳🤨🧐🤔

    • @bammatthews9092
      @bammatthews9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It was made to kill Strom from the X men.....I just made that up. It was probably to kill Thor

    • @evanmisejka4062
      @evanmisejka4062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What if it was commissioned to be able to kill Hela if she returned earlier?
      Or perhaps just any God that gains too much power?

    • @MegaWubba_89
      @MegaWubba_89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here is the top 7 titles for second season of Marvel Studios What If…? on Disney+
      1. What If…? Loki join the Avengers instead of Thor
      2. What If…. Odin adopted Gamora and Nebula instead of Thor and raising them in Asgard
      3. What If…? The TVA adopted Natasha and Yelena to become hunters
      4. What If…? Steve Rogers become Captain Marvel in the WW2 and joining the battle of the Kree-Skrull War
      5. What If…? Jane Van Dyne wasn’t stuck in the Quantum Realm instead of her husband Hank Pym
      6. What If…? Michelle “MJ” Jones got bit by the spider instead of Peter Parker and become Spider-Woman
      7. What If…? Carol Danvers join the Nova Corp and team-up the Guardians

    • @aaronw.2050
      @aaronw.2050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you guys do a breakdown of Odin's powers?

    • @facemob723
      @facemob723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beta Ray Bill already has Stormbreaker in the Mcu and used it on Sakaar.

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    Thor becoming like Hela would be awesome to see in What If...?

    • @lokithegamervariant3718
      @lokithegamervariant3718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @F.R.N. F ik

    • @optimus2g
      @optimus2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GREAT idea!

    • @drewhessler4698
      @drewhessler4698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "what if Thor never met Jane Foster?"

    • @too_official6194
      @too_official6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would he nigh unstoppable

    • @mr.m2695
      @mr.m2695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not with the original hammer. He would still need storm breaker

  • @JohnsolomonH
    @JohnsolomonH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    When Peter Dinklage said “in theory it could summon the bifrost” I got chills

    • @Cheeseyman
      @Cheeseyman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In your Weenie!

    • @runredrambo
      @runredrambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So did I lol I rewinded it when I watched it online too

    • @JohnsolomonH
      @JohnsolomonH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Cheeseyman maybe that’s why they call him Dinklage?

    • @TheSharna23
      @TheSharna23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

  • @Moshuun
    @Moshuun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Well, if it is true.. it IS called *Storm* breaker. Thor is the god of thunder & can make lightning storms.. so.. there’s that.

    • @AllyGirl-hg2sb
      @AllyGirl-hg2sb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I never thought about that before until I saw your comment.

    • @wessidioussmoke5773
      @wessidioussmoke5773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That doesn’t make it true

    • @Lion-O-Richie2040
      @Lion-O-Richie2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No..
      So much reaching nowadays.

    • @Moshuun
      @Moshuun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wessidioussmoke5773 I know.. it’s just a theory.. a *random* theory.

    • @Moshuun
      @Moshuun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Lion-O-Richie2040 I’m not saying it’s true. It’s just coincidental.

  • @CADDYDIAZ
    @CADDYDIAZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    This would be a great "What if" episode. Thor conquers the frost giants, finds out Loki is a frost giant and kills him too. Odin forms stormbreaker, father and son battle it out, Odin fails and Thor kills him and takes stormbreaker. Thor is now ruler of 9 realms. Seems a bit dark but would make a great episode on WHAT IF

    • @sebastienc.2257
      @sebastienc.2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Like some one else said it’d probably be Beta Ray Bill, especially since stormbreaker is his hammer in the comics. He was also chosen by Odin in the comics. He was also replaced by Thor in the “planet hulk” portion of Thor ragnarok.

    • @placeholdername3818
      @placeholdername3818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I honestly can't see movie Thor beating Odin

    • @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
      @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’d love to see a more heroic Loki battling a villainous Thor

    • @birdiec
      @birdiec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Honestly Thor 1 Thor would get smacked around by Thor 1 Odin. Odin was old but Thors significantly less powerful when his eyebrows are blonde.

    • @Lion-O-Richie2040
      @Lion-O-Richie2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Seems a bit shit. That’s the weakest reason for Odin to kill Thor. Also, Odin would stomp Thor, stop being ridiculous.

  • @scale8125
    @scale8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Maybe Stormbreaker was made for Thor to use to kill his sister, Hela, when she inevitably came back. Though with the events that happened, Odin didn't have enough time to prepare his sons at all and just left them to figure something out their own way. Notice how Mjolnir had no effect on her, especially since it was originally her weapon, this is why Stormbreaker was made especially for Thor (to use against the God of Death, Hela). Also explains why Stormbreaker was immediately called to Thor's hand once it was fully forged.

    • @mahmoudelansari1345
      @mahmoudelansari1345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That seems logic

    • @achimwokeschtla7582
      @achimwokeschtla7582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This makes more sense

    • @howardwilliams8181
      @howardwilliams8181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thor stated he is 1,500 years old in Ragnarok...how in the hell Odin didn't have time to tell him about his big sister Hela?...it took 5 minutes to tell Thor and Loki about Hela in Ragnarok..smh..

    • @theskyybay420
      @theskyybay420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it had no effect because since she too has wielded that weapon B4, she just put her hand up like she’s catching it and crushes it to pieces but then again wtf, does that mean she is worthy? And if I’m wrong and she isn’t, then she at least used to be? Who makes the worthy rules for mjolnir, Odin and however he feels that’ day? A little confusing

    • @theskyybay420
      @theskyybay420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@howardwilliams8181 I was thinking that too. I don’t think Odin spent too too long on Earth 🌎, so wtf was he waiting for on preparing Them for Hela? I’m sure Odin knew his time was coming.

  • @murrygondwana7260
    @murrygondwana7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Hela is seen holding mjolnir. Stormbreaker may have been designed to kill Hela, but Odin found a way to trap her instead.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This makes more sense

    • @murrygondwana7260
      @murrygondwana7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 The worthiness enchantment Odin places on Mjolnir was to protect against a rogue Thor. We see him do this in the first Thor film.

    • @heroeus8173
      @heroeus8173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The enchantment was just a way to punish thor
      Thor infront of hela is nothing
      In term of trouble that odin got
      And even for loki
      Thor was a spoil silver spoon kid
      Loki had acceptance issues
      Hela was another case on a different level
      And thor and loki was suppose to be 1.5k yrs old
      They were supposed to be like in their early 20s
      While hela is a full grown up
      She battle along side her father and has full experience
      The thing is odin cast two spell
      One on thor and one on Mjölnir
      The first one is to weaken thor to make him mortal so that he doesn't become a threat for midgardians
      The second one is on Mjölnir
      To seal it
      Thor has it's powers in him
      The hammer actually has an entity that reside in it having storm powers
      Which also helps thor channeling his lighting powers
      It's just that odin maked thor believe that Mjölnir was the source of his power
      When it isn't

    • @ezzatcasim7639
      @ezzatcasim7639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hela is only strong is shes in asgard.

    • @heroeus8173
      @heroeus8173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ezzatcasim7639 no her powers are way more powerful in asgard
      However she is still a force to be reckon outside it
      Did you forget that she killed all the valkiries aside of 1 that survived
      She was not in asgard
      She was in one of the 12 realms
      The dark one
      She also crush thor and loki
      Before she even return to asgard
      This already showed the massive difference between the two other norse god

  • @mikeg5397
    @mikeg5397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Odin literally took away all of Thor's powers with just a few words in the first Thor movie. I don't think he ever thought he needed to build a weapon to kill him

    • @boizen
      @boizen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe incase he died

    • @razvan3382
      @razvan3382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In first thor all thor powers were in the hammer , now he has his own powers , still odin could stop him but in the future thor is supposed to be much stronger than thor so...

    • @proximashining776
      @proximashining776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@razvan3382 According to the Ragnarok movie, Thor's powers never were in the hammer, he only mistakenly believed they were. Thor himself was always the source of those powers. Odin probably made him believe otherwise so that he could better control him.

    • @alexburroughs4660
      @alexburroughs4660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@proximashining776 not sure. Other wise he wouldn't have been killed so easily. His powers wouldn't allow him to be killed by awesome bitch smack from a robot. I believe his powers were stripped. Also he couldn't lift the hammer or summon it. Thor did not know/ think he couldn't control the hammer at that point.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I suspect Odin was only able to do that while he was still the Allfather wielding the power of King of Asgard. If Thor had been crowned king and Allfather, Odin could no longer wield the power of Asgard against Thor. Only a king of Asgard has the power to strip power and exile Asgardians.

  • @pokemonfan2630
    @pokemonfan2630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thor yeeting stormbreaker at thanos is my favorite scene in all the mcu.

    • @judeforartssake
      @judeforartssake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then for some reason he can't do that again in Endgame, when Thanos has zero stones. 🤔

    • @laserbeam1620
      @laserbeam1620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea man it's so good! It just takes on the full gauntlet blast and NAILS Thanos! So badass!!

    • @spookaman
      @spookaman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he didn't go for the head

    • @CZJ1234
      @CZJ1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judeforartssake In Endgame Thanos didn’t hold back against anyone like he did in IW, and Thor was also out of physical plus mental condition against Thanos in Endgame.

    • @notksiolijadebt6558
      @notksiolijadebt6558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judeforartssake because he has mjolnr which is weakening him

  • @Pub2k4
    @Pub2k4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I think Stormbreaker was likely a contingency against Hela rather than Thor.

    • @HisameArtwork
      @HisameArtwork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it wouldn't kill her, only destroying asgard would...in the MCU anyway.

    • @NFERNO100
      @NFERNO100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I said the same thing and a fully revived Surtur

    • @Pub2k4
      @Pub2k4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HisameArtwork Not necessarily. While Odin was still alive, he was able to prevent her from gaining power from Asgard. It wasn’t until his death that she was able to escape Hel and start drawing power from Asgard.

    • @proximashining776
      @proximashining776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HisameArtwork I think chopping off her head could have taken care of that even without the need to destroy Asgard. Even a god cannot survive such a wound. Of course, someone would have to be powerful enough to take her head in the first place.

    • @chrischristian9227
      @chrischristian9227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      now that sounds more plausible

  • @nihaljaiswal4869
    @nihaljaiswal4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    It could have also been a contingency plan for Hela too, not just Thor. Hela would have been released when Odin died. He might have commissioned the creation of Storm Breaker to defeat Hela if she became a threat. A plan where you wouldn't have to destroy Asgard. Lol.

    • @Lone_wolf144
      @Lone_wolf144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well....destroying Asgard was always a part if the prophecy of Ragnarok. And Odin knew that the ragnarok is unavailable.

    • @kinesissado9636
      @kinesissado9636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea it was prolly for HeLa. Commissioned for Thor to use against her when Odin died and she broke free from her prison

    • @christinehall2025
      @christinehall2025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking, makes more sense to be for Hela.

    • @sibroaymapagmahal
      @sibroaymapagmahal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont think storm breaker can kill hela, cause why not just craft it before and kill her?

  • @UltimateSpider1385
    @UltimateSpider1385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I think the right person who should possess Stormbreaker as a contingency plan to take out Thor has to be Beta Ray Bill. If Thor's lust for battle threatens the universe, Beta Ray Bill will have to be the one to fight him.

    • @natereath4966
      @natereath4966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That sounds like a great plotline, which could be complimented by the film theory about Thor bringing the destruction of everything.

    • @Camera1production
      @Camera1production 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And take the throne bc beta ray bill is supposed to be a good at heart warrior, so totally plausible and with him making a live action appearance we might ge that explanation, going deeper into thor's mythos.

    • @tyburns8216
      @tyburns8216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was my thought and why I looked in comments. If Odin had met Bataray in the past. Had Trusted him with the use of Mjlinior , Bill has the chance to leave but returns it ( Has an adventure on Sakar why his "Thor Powered Self" is pictured on the tower. So Odin had stormbreaker made for him should he need it for any reason. He would have someone he could trust with that power.

    • @parthpawar2823
      @parthpawar2823 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you because in Marvel Comics stormbreaker was originally made for Beta Ray Bill because Thor needed mjolnir so the best way to help Beta Ray Bill without giving mjolnir permanently or temporarily is to make another weapon which was none other than stormbreaker so your comment is different from comics but I agree with you because it makes sense. Also beta Ray Bill is the right person to possess stormbreaker because he is worthy. Speaking of worthy stormbreaker does have a worthiness enchantment in Marvel Comics.
      Love the way what you say makes sense. Nice to meet you.
      Also Your comment felt different because you say Beta Ray Bill would help in the contingency plan but in Comics he was just trying to survive and protect his people. Beta Ray Bill in comic book was not involved in contingency plan because he never knew about Odin before meeting and fighting Thor

  • @friscomade
    @friscomade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I mean it makes sense. Storm - “breaker”.
    Thor is the God of Thunder and uses thunderstorms for more power. The weapon is literally built to, *break* the storm.
    Or maybe I’m high and this comment doesn’t matter.

    • @kevjd24
      @kevjd24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did wonder about the name Storm Breaker. Thought it was “a bit much.”

    • @ginjaninja4602
      @ginjaninja4602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Am I also high and I approve this comment lmao

    • @davifmcmonies2306
      @davifmcmonies2306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes more sense this way. When a Storm stars it's commonly said there's a storm breaking. There for calling it storm breaker is just saying it helps Thor create and channel much bigger storm's

  • @yoboyrob201
    @yoboyrob201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    But this makes no sense. Odin literally can just strip him of his power. He literally did. Eitri also straight up said it was a coronation gift for Thor. Plus I doubt that Odin would end his own line. Considering his line are the most powerful asgardians and would greatly diminish Asgard’s power without one of them being alive

    • @jasongarcia6877
      @jasongarcia6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thor was always the God of thunder he always was meant for his powers to come

    • @yoboyrob201
      @yoboyrob201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasongarcia6877 im aware of that

    • @jasongarcia6877
      @jasongarcia6877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yoboyrob201 if its a full powered Odin vs thor Odin wouldn't be able to strip him of his powers. In fact he never stripped him from his powers it was just his hammer.

    • @THEPHARAOH2
      @THEPHARAOH2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Odin never stripped him of his power...Thor power grows by his worthiness THOR STRIPPED HIMSELF OF POWER BY BEING ARROGANT IF ANYTHING

    • @datruthhurtz2306
      @datruthhurtz2306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lol...thor got stripped of his powers. that's why he basically died when backhanded by the destroyer in thor 1. he then got his powers back

  • @DustinManke
    @DustinManke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Was that, "Powerful Asgardian Warrior" or, "Powerful-Ass Guardian Warrior?"

  • @tadhggoreyoneill13666
    @tadhggoreyoneill13666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Well it would make sense to have a contingency plan for someone as powerful as Thor if he were to step out of line and any and all peaceful options for a resolution to the situation have been exhausted

    • @greenpanda2475
      @greenpanda2475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Batman was right

    • @tadhggoreyoneill13666
      @tadhggoreyoneill13666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@greenpanda2475 exactly and the Injustice games prove that

    • @wilvictor
      @wilvictor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greenpanda2475 well in the reference that's what the avengers are there for to stop one another just like batman said to superman when he tell Bruce "you was so busy making plan for us you didn't even bother making one for yourself" then Bruce reply" I have one it's call the justice league " so I think they do just fine along with some broken bones 😂😂 but he won't be easy

  • @GhostGamer25
    @GhostGamer25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Ironic, a literal god killer.

    • @Fictionverse616
      @Fictionverse616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did someone say gorr?

    • @TheRedPandalorian
      @TheRedPandalorian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you hear the story about darth thor the wise?

    • @GhostGamer25
      @GhostGamer25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRedPandalorian
      No, why have I not heard of this?

    • @uriah4491
      @uriah4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes...that’s what....god killer means. 🤨

    • @Teslis2
      @Teslis2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRedPandalorian have you heard the tragic of thor

  • @travisgozley3451
    @travisgozley3451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Eh. I think it would have been made for Thor’s ascension to the throne. It would have been a symbol of his rule, like Odín’s staff. It wouldn’t have been crafted while Odín was still king of Asgard. Mjolnir was the weapon of a prince, stormbreaker is the weapon of a king.

  • @Eriktheviking66
    @Eriktheviking66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Hela is Loki’s daughter in Norse mythology

    • @THE_REDNECK_KING
      @THE_REDNECK_KING 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hel and hela are diffarent people in the mcu

    • @fearless3073
      @fearless3073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes , but it was a pointless decision

    • @jakkdlaw
      @jakkdlaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The same thing happens in thor vs hulk animated movie, I am not sure about the comics but they should have kept it that way in the movies, it would have been more interesting.

    • @whyshouldi9786
      @whyshouldi9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he is also Odin's brother in Norse mythology.

    • @too_official6194
      @too_official6194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all know that

  • @davideddy8557
    @davideddy8557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We see Bor using the spear Gungnir in battle, so I propose that the weapon was commissioned by Bor for Odin to use, but it was never made because Bor died in battle and passed on the spear after Stormbreaker's cast was made but before the dwarves had a chance to forge the uru.

    • @xerozheck9406
      @xerozheck9406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense

    • @B22RAW
      @B22RAW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah I think Odin Protected the Dwarves and they got killed when he was in the Odin sleep when Loki Ruled. Odin had a fake infinity Gauntlet and possessed the space and reality stones and most likely knew where the time stone was as well. But the Power Stone, Mind Stone and Soul Stone he stopped seeking after learning the nature of the Soul Stone. He probably had Mjnoinor commission for sure though and probably gave that to Hela and took his Father's Spear again. He choose to live out his Final Years in Peace rather than War very smart honestly Asgard and his Family all died within 10 years from Thor - Thor Ragnarok so he is Partying in Valhalla 🎉🎉🎉👑

  • @gordontubbs
    @gordontubbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    If a particular kingdom is using your community to build weapons, you're sure as hell going to build a weapon powerful enough to defend your community should that kingdom turn its back on you. Never give your buyer/patron all the leverage, even if the relationship is good.

    • @MostafaElKafrawy
      @MostafaElKafrawy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No it was supposed to be Thor's coronation gift as the king but was postponed due to the events of the MCU

    • @Lion-O-Richie2040
      @Lion-O-Richie2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duh... You said it like it’s some jewel of wisdom. That’s common sense in business.

    • @Xodreev
      @Xodreev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MostafaElKafrawy I don't know why I was expecting that to end with "due to covid." Lol

    • @humanbeing1429
      @humanbeing1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Something tells me you're from Soviet Russia. Lol

  • @JVIT_TV
    @JVIT_TV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I like this idea! My only question is how did Thor know about the location and design of the weapon if it was built to be used against him? Perhaps Odin told This after he learned humility.

    • @nihaljaiswal4869
      @nihaljaiswal4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He knew where his weapon was built but never knew about Storm Breaker. He only went to Nidavellir for a new weapon because Dwarves were known to have crafted the weapons of the kings of Asgard.

    • @anubhavpal5782
      @anubhavpal5782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      but Odin already has the capability of striping thor of his powers as was seen in the first thor movie

    • @nihaljaiswal4869
      @nihaljaiswal4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@anubhavpal5782 Thor always thought his power came from his hammer. When Odin made him feel like he wasn't worthy of wielding Mjolnir, He felt powerless. Thor just didn't know how to channel his power. Odin could very well strip him of his power, but he could then why didn't he strip Hela of her powers?

    • @Camera1production
      @Camera1production 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nihaljaiswal4869 same reason he felt powerless after losing mjolnir, of course he loved the hammer but it was his identity and what he believed to be source of his power which is why when he finally got them fr, he became op. Honestly, the theory makes sense all the way from the name itself "stormbreaker" to him not being told of his true power until odic felt Thor was truly humble, and another guy said beta ray Bill would be the one to wield stormbreaker which also makes sense.

    • @anubhavpal5782
      @anubhavpal5782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nihaljaiswal4869 about hela i don't know, she is the Goddess of death

  • @matthewjarrod2523
    @matthewjarrod2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The dwarf said "it was fit for a King". What if this statement was looked at from a different perspective. Instead of being FIT for a King to use, it actually meant the weapon was Fit to kill a King.

    • @smackmac11
      @smackmac11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @nedflanders2943
      @nedflanders2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Like "to serve man" is a cook book

    • @humanbeing1429
      @humanbeing1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nedflanders2943 a cook book on how to chop up a man and serve it to a panther.

  • @NFERNO100
    @NFERNO100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A lot of what I've seen on here gave me doubts, but this one is a nearly perfect theory. I knew if I kept watching you would give me a good one. Great job brother. Oh, I only say nearly perfect because I believe Odin had faith in Thor up until he provoked the Frost Giants. Odin said he was a fool or blinded to the fact that Thor wasn't ready for the throne. If anything StormBreaker was a contingency for Hela or Surtur. Odin didn't mention it at the end of his life because he probably already knew Thanos had already been to visit Itri.

    • @landingblind5185
      @landingblind5185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto! Was there any other reason explained in the comics for the name that you know of?

  • @grantdubiel4843
    @grantdubiel4843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine Thor and Hela conquering the universe together, literally would be unstoppable with Hela's experience and Thor's power

  • @victor9
    @victor9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thor's contingency plan is really, really good beer

  • @nileslindstrom9383
    @nileslindstrom9383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I could see it more likely it was commissioned by Loki when it was posing at Odin. His pride and ego would lead him to thinking he deserves that weapon but he wasn't "Odin" long enough to see it's completion

  • @Dprim29
    @Dprim29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Considering that the first Thor movie demonstrated Odin's ability to strip Thor of his powers, and the subsequent movies show how little understanding of his own powers, I fail to see why such a contingency would even need to exist.
    In my estimation, it's more reasonable to believe that the dwarves of Nidavellir crafted the mold to be ready to make a weapon to kill Odin and to give to the leader of a coup(who would become the new king of Asgard), should Odin ever turn back to his old ways.

  • @2manSNIPERschool
    @2manSNIPERschool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It fills in blanks of Odin the All Father's story as a whole, making his charactor more complex in the MCU. It does make sense that Odin saw Hella 2.0 early on in Thor and realized he needs a way to put this one down so he went to Eitri. With how Loki is dealt with as a "son of Odin" it's reasonable to believe he has had that approach on all of his children (by blood and adopted) since locking Hella away knowing what could come to be once again.

  • @gearjammer3200
    @gearjammer3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't know that stormbreaker amplified his power but that does explain the weird lighting that surrounds stormbreaker and not Mjölnir. if you don't understand this comment go look at 5:53 you can see lighting comes out of Mjölnir but the lighting from stormbreaker surrounds the axe head and almost looks like fire.

    • @themandarin8289
      @themandarin8289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blue fire

    • @gearjammer3200
      @gearjammer3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themandarin8289 that's what I originally thought but why would Thor have blue fire

    • @themandarin8289
      @themandarin8289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gearjammer3200 yea because he uses lightning or maybe that blue fire is just his lightning powers going around in circle

    • @gearjammer3200
      @gearjammer3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@themandarin8289 well both heat and electricity are forms of pure energy. And I think that fire and lightning are the ionization of said energy and the surrounding particles sooo

  • @AllenDePriest
    @AllenDePriest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Storm breaker was created to give to Beta Ray Bill, when he laid claim to Thors hammer after Thor was defeated in battle.

  • @jagdeishwarmagendran3395
    @jagdeishwarmagendran3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question ? In the first movie, Thor's father, Odin, placed an enchantment on Mjolnir. But now that he is gone, who enchanted Stormbreaker with the ability to summon the Bifrost and the ability to enhance the user's powers. We know Stormbreaker is everything Mjolnir is but without the Worthyness enchantment and have a few extra features. So did odin enchant the axe's mould to transfer over to the Weapon once it has be casted ? Is that even posdible ?

  • @nathanielwallace2415
    @nathanielwallace2415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The back up plan was the enchantment on his original weapon. Not worthy...can't use it. Stormbreaker is Thor's upgrade when he became king in defense of Hera. Now he has it and left his people with no crown or loyalties, and with that the potential to become a true tyrant.

  • @shadoman7682
    @shadoman7682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting theory except in Thor 1 Odin say's "I take from you your power" fight over

    • @bullymaguire2061
      @bullymaguire2061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Odin can only take Mjolnir from Thor
      Not his inherent capability to control lightening

    • @Quintos.
      @Quintos. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Odin was full of dark magic and nothing can stand before him in battle, not Hela not thor

    • @shadoman7682
      @shadoman7682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bullymaguire2061 Only Odin did take Thor's power. His strength, his lightning, his invulnerability, his stamina, everything..

  • @MadTitan_36
    @MadTitan_36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever consider maybe Mjölnir as a training weapon to prepare Thor for wielding StormBreaker?

  • @blakedevitt6948
    @blakedevitt6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The big guy-Cull Obsidian-simply roars out of rage and frustration.

  • @dineskumarragu4187
    @dineskumarragu4187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one interesting fan theory. Great video my friend. You just got a subscriber.

  • @Ignasimp
    @Ignasimp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Or maybe stormbreker was just a weapon saved for when Thor would be king.

  • @ethenallen1388
    @ethenallen1388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that Odin stripped Thor of his power and banished him until he learned humility works against this hypothesis. Then there's the fact that Hela would only be bound as long as Odin was alive.
    I think that the dwarves had been working on Stormbreaker because they felt a craft masters' desire better their work.

  • @extinctreaper1901
    @extinctreaper1901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly that entrance still gives me goosebumps. everyone just watches him destroy outriders.

  • @michaelsoak1250
    @michaelsoak1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe after etrie was forced to make the gauntlet he started preping to make stormbreaker in response hoping that someone like Thor would come along to help him make it

  • @ginozameadows7299
    @ginozameadows7299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant agree with this theory because Odin had always had the ability to take away Thor's power and did so in the 1st movie, so the hammer was unnecessary in order to deal with him.

  • @BlackShardStudio
    @BlackShardStudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A well thought-out theory. Not only possible, but also neatly ties up some hanging plot threads. I like it. Gonna be my headcanon now.

  • @bust2007
    @bust2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you will never be a god
    -loki to thanos

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why be a god when you can be a god killer? ***Snaps neck***

  • @heroeus8173
    @heroeus8173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eh it just doesn't make sense ...
    Well the power scale in The MCU is bad but
    Read this
    Odin without guniyr >>>>>> Thor with Mjölnir
    So why would odin even need a new weapon to take down thor
    Odin knows that thor powers are very weak compare to hela
    Even in thor 3 after all that thor went through
    He is still way weaker than hela
    Storm breaker would have been given to thor when he would be ready
    Mjölnir is actually a weapon that helps thor to master his powers
    But thor instead relied too much on it
    Thus in thor 3
    He got in to a manner where he put himself in question when the hammer got destroy
    Storm breaker was a weapon kept in nidavellir till thor is ready
    The Axe wasn't even forged yet
    It was only prepared to
    So for me odin either prepared the axe since thousands of years or at the end of thor 2
    He ordered elftri and the dwarf to make stormbreaker

  • @jmjones683
    @jmjones683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It could have been a gift that Odin was going to bestow upon Thor when he ascended to the throne.

  • @Grizzlox
    @Grizzlox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This explains why Mjolnir would only work for the "worthy"... to further prevent Thor from becoming evil.

  • @christopherbillups7562
    @christopherbillups7562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say... you are absolutely brilliant. Your analysis is beautiful and worthy of MCU cannon. I hope they include this someday in future MCU events. Bravo. Liked. Subscribed. Moreeee.e.........

  • @liewjustin
    @liewjustin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your theories - Very well thought out!

  • @Matthew_Chand
    @Matthew_Chand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This might be true because another TH-camr made a video about Thor Destroying the MCU and everything he said is coming true. Including the multiverse. and there’s one comic saying that Odin knows Thor is Extremely power like Universe destroyer and his scared that Thor turns on him and the 9 Realms so he does something using magic.and this was when Thor was growing up when Odin started to see how power Thor was getting.

  • @MrTheCustodian
    @MrTheCustodian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s my opinion that Odin had storm breaker commissioned to use in his conquests with hela but his change of heart happened before he had it made, but kept the mold to use against hela if need be later on…

    • @NFERNO100
      @NFERNO100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that is a great theory. Itri said it was ment for a king

  • @s.a.j.n7629
    @s.a.j.n7629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Storm Breaker was first introduced in Thor issue 339 it was forged by Eitri enchanted by odin and was given to Beta Ray Bill

  • @mauriciovic100
    @mauriciovic100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assuming that Odin’s choice of imprisonming of Hela instead of an execution was because despite her warmongering he just couldn’t bring himself to kill his own daughter it could potentially have been commissioned for Thor with the intention that he would use it to kill Hela, it would explain why he never told Thor about her since he didn’t want him to develop any brotherly attachment to the person he would have to kill.
    Alternatively, depending on whenever the commission was made it is possible that the axe was meant for Loki to kill Thor and take the throne if it ever come to this, he had the legitimacy to gather support, the training and up to the end of Thor’s first movie when he had a breakdown and decided to try his hand at genocide to alleviate the stress he was probably the most prepared for the throne between the two.

  • @r35pect5
    @r35pect5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol everyone gangsta till loki and sylvie pull up and fuck up the time line again

  • @PrestonFitzgerald-nh8zw
    @PrestonFitzgerald-nh8zw ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine Stormbreaker being a weapon so powerful, even the Asgardian kings feared it.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite an interesting theory indeed! And I like it! Also, I remembered in the comics that there is a version of Thor that is the King of Asgard and seek out conquest. I don't remember which universe that is. If anyone remembered which one, please tell me.

  • @cama2276
    @cama2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "There's always a purpose to everything your father does." -- Frigga

    • @thomasrockbottom2907
      @thomasrockbottom2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet couldn't protect his own wife, his adopted son and his own daughter😂😂😂

    • @cama2276
      @cama2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasrockbottom2907 I mean, Odin can't control the fate of the universe. But what he can control, especially on Asgard, has a purpose... or maybe he could and it was all part of the plan? Without fighting and dealing with Loki in Thor 1 and 2 and Avengers, and defeating Hela by
      Allowing Ragnarok to happen, Thor would never have had the anger and pain to withstand the strength of the star on Nedavellir in order to make Stormbreaker, which in turn eventually killed Thanos and saved half the universe

    • @thomasrockbottom2907
      @thomasrockbottom2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cama2276 odin is a fool

    • @cama2276
      @cama2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasrockbottom2907 and an old man

  • @sdadityasharma
    @sdadityasharma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thor and Hela together conquering the realms and batteling would be awesome to see in What If...?

  • @RainerAC
    @RainerAC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that music in the background

  • @certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224
    @certifiedyaminspector-dadd6224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Thor ever got out of line, Odin would just turn him back into Donald Blake. No need for a super powered axe.

  • @meshu24
    @meshu24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's that hooded Thor art from? Gots yo have it

  • @JYAN2852
    @JYAN2852 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whatever happened to Odin's staff/spear when Asgardia blew up?

  • @oliverholloway1653
    @oliverholloway1653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if odin held stormbreaker or mjolnir (before the enchantment) what would be the power like when thor held stormbreaker lightning came out of it

  • @michaelrice7038
    @michaelrice7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Odin's father Boar had the mold made in case he had to take out Odin

  • @DragonsinGenesisPodcast
    @DragonsinGenesisPodcast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it makes more sense that Odin had the weapon designed for some potential threat but not made because such a threat had yet to manifest. I don’t think it had a specific purpose.

  • @Debonairactive
    @Debonairactive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If Odin can trap hela he can trap thor good theory but makes no sense

    • @gerardrbain1972
      @gerardrbain1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Odin was younger and possibly stronger when he imprisoned Hela. Odin probably realised that Thor would be too much for him, Odin, to handle without some extra help.

    • @Debonairactive
      @Debonairactive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gerardrbain1972 younger but he trapped her using magic and his life force thats why hella was only able to come out after he died using magic to trap thor wont be a problem for odin

    • @Debonairactive
      @Debonairactive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerardrbain1972 and hela is OP whilst on Asgard so yeah odin wont have a problem trapping thor using magic

  • @jonahstirbis3408
    @jonahstirbis3408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this was the backup plan to kill thor then what was odins failsafe if hela ever got free?

  • @jagdeishwarmagendran3395
    @jagdeishwarmagendran3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool theory. But it was mentioned that the axe known as Stormbreaker is a Coronation Gift to the God of Thunder when he takes his place as The King of Asgard. If you see, Odin told thor that Mjolnir was a tool that will help thor focus his powers. But Stormbreaker was a tool to amplify his powers as a king. So if thor was so strong with Mjolnir, which helped thor focus his powers, imagine what Thor can acomplish through out the years with Stormbreaker ?
    And some might say that Mjolnir is the only thing that gives thor his powers despite watching Thor Ragnarok. Thor has lost his worthyness so many times in the comics, and has also lost his powers due to it. But that is psycological. The inscription on the hammes says "Whoever holds this hammer if he be worthy shall posses the power of Thor. So who ever holds the hammer will get the powers of The God of Thunder. So Thor can still use his powers with or without Mjolnir. Only those who are worthy can hold the hammer and obtain the power of thor. Idk why these people still exist !

  • @krayzel
    @krayzel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Thor's character arc because he has very tragic past and story. This guy lost his father, mother, brother, sister, his friend Heimdall and his people Asgardians. It does not get worse than that. Yet with every loss he comes back stronger and stronger. I also have obsession with lightning and electricity so I love his abilities and power.

  • @skygamer23
    @skygamer23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hearing this mans voice talk about anything other than star wars is the strangest thing to me

  • @nerdsunscripted624
    @nerdsunscripted624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory on that was it was a contingency plan for Hela, not for Thor. The plan was that when Odin died Hela was too strong for Mjolnir, so he needed a weapon that focused his strength instead of hindering it, but it happened sooner than Odin expected because of Loki sending him to earth powerless, making him age faster. Because of that, he didn’t have time for Thor to rise to his place on the throne and have the weapon made before Hela appeared.

  • @BrandonSmith-px5gg
    @BrandonSmith-px5gg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Miljour also possess lighting capabilities seen when steve rodgers weilds it and storm breaker could have been in progress then thanos arrived

  • @SevenX_
    @SevenX_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, this is one of the best theories I've heard!

  • @ryant2568
    @ryant2568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the comic books Stormbreaker was created for Bata Ray Bill after a fight between him and Thor.

  • @CMWeaver
    @CMWeaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So was there a weapon that was supposed to take out Hella?

  • @ansumandas5749
    @ansumandas5749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Asgardians are like super soldiers, their power can be granted as well as taken.

  • @DrolthKar
    @DrolthKar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was commissioned by Old King Thor in preparation for facing off with Gor the God Butcher.

  • @professorx.945
    @professorx.945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it was exactly what it was, a kings backup weapon for redemption.

  • @darianmcleod3150
    @darianmcleod3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The storm breaker axe is not originally thors but another marvel character who already owns storm breaker and his face is on the collisium of the trash planet, the mold to storm breaker is there because it was already there and thor now holds the second axe of storm breakers the original holder being Beta Ray Bill

  • @andreanatsuminadeau5608
    @andreanatsuminadeau5608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it was a contengencie plan to kill Hela without destroying Asgard, but then Loki exiled Odin, he and Thor ends up in Sakaar because of Loki haste to call the Bifrost and give Hela direct access to the source of her power (Asgard itself) all that while Thanos was busy forcing Eitri to forge his gauntlet and decimating the dwarves so even if Odin would have mentionned Stormbreaker it would have been the long-running plan that they might not have the time and ressources to implement so they took plan B: Sultur/Ragnarok

  • @SFox-nf3bo
    @SFox-nf3bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gives new meaning to "storm breaker."

  • @bobthedopeman7327
    @bobthedopeman7327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Thor quote: " Let's kill him properly this time"

  • @BrentHollett
    @BrentHollett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alternatively, Odin knew that Thor would be heavily tested after Odin's death. And prepared a weapon to aid him.

  • @jonahstirbis3408
    @jonahstirbis3408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mold was probably made by order of odin so that if thor ever lost mjolnir he would have a weapon to kill hela if the need ever rose but odin never got to tell thor of it because of his death.

  • @ForeignSpices
    @ForeignSpices 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here the question? Whos stronger, Storm Breaker or Infinity Stones on infinity Gaunlet?

  • @aamanaf2203
    @aamanaf2203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stormbreaker was designed for Beta Ray Bill to be used to defend against evil . A symbol of hope for the oppress and future hero arise from chaos/calamity to bring aid for Asgard and the 9 realms if require assistance.

  • @XVDragonGaming
    @XVDragonGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good in-universe way to explain the reason for Storm Breaker's name, though think it was really just an easter egg call out to the Storm Breaker in the comics. Does not stop us from making fun theories like this thought.

  • @steveniverson2577
    @steveniverson2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's purpose is pretty much what you explained.
    As for why the mold was made, but not the weapon... how many times has asgard's vault been breached? Ya, not leaving a weapon like stormbreaker just LAYING about, thing is amped enough to stop someone using a fully assembled infinity gauntlet!

  • @brassarrow1587
    @brassarrow1587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think it was a contingency plan for hela in case she returned before odin's death because its was explained it was a weapon on legend in other words before thors time and maybe even odin's time

  • @altdoom5205
    @altdoom5205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last time we saw Thor, he was packing some serious power like we have not seen so far. The next time we see him in battle, it should be amazing and completely elemental.

  • @darkracer86
    @darkracer86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devil in the details. It already had a name before it was forged so it makes sense there was no handle/hilt prepared for it, which is why Groot cut a limb to make it, saving Thor in the process as he claimed the weapon and lightning surged in his fingers. Nicely done.

  • @williampaulsinghharika2627
    @williampaulsinghharika2627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe it was ordered by Odin to be forged as a last gift to Thor. Basically saying to the dwarves "when i die and my son ascends to the throne, forge that axe as his coronation gift."

  • @nathanaelstricker9056
    @nathanaelstricker9056 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes perfect sense and I could see it being an in universe justification…but I really only think the creators put that name and axe in place because it existed in the comics under that name.

  • @monikabobb5552
    @monikabobb5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I think is that it was supposed to be thors korination weapon were he would protect all 9 relms were he would need the power to save the 9 relms from all threts

  • @meman8754
    @meman8754 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Listen listen listen that was a very very good analysis good job good job keep up the good work God bless you and your whole family

  • @mentalllllll
    @mentalllllll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @themarvelouswave If Odin was a warmongering conqueror abd changed to become the protector of the 9 realms then is it possible that with each conquest he realized that the enemies was getting stronger and stronger until finally understanding that there was forces out there more powerful than himself. And then realized that some people were so underdeveloped or weak that they needed a protector rather than a conqueror?

  • @kakashikage9483
    @kakashikage9483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the meantime, remember, Thaatss Just a Theory.. Aaaaaaaaaa *FIIIILLLM THEORYY*

  • @843eagles
    @843eagles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting theory but I think storm breaker was a contingency weapon for any threat the potential king or ruler of Asgard had to face down the line. I would say it was never deployed because of the power it wielded and that was the ability to summon the bifrost. Storm breaker being able to summon bifrost not only makes it a god killer but also a planet destroyer as well. That would be a lot of responsibility for any one person thus it should only be used if needed.

  • @jlegend5015
    @jlegend5015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or the mold could have been made for Thor when he eventually became king stormbreaker was based off of ultimate Mojner which is a big axe

  • @blakedevitt6948
    @blakedevitt6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was made for his alien counterpart and friend called "Beta Ray Bill." Beta Ray Bill is one of the few who can lift Thor's hammer, in addition to Captain America. Beta Ray Bill wished to wield Mjolnir to aid him in his quest, but Odin said "Nay. Mjolnir belongs to Thor, but perhaps there is another way." He hired the Dwarves who crafted Mjolnir to forge another hammer with power identical to Thor's hammer: Stormbreaker was its name!
    Or maybe it's the new Female Thor's weapon.