A popular fan theory I like is Strange, while technically a novice, spent months if not years fighting in the Dark Dimension (I've come to bargain). By virtue of being killed multiple times in multiple ways he learned how to survive the hard way. Which is why I'm giving him a slight edge over Wanda. She got very lucky in her fight with Agatha Harkness. She may be a quick study but Strange has gone toe-to-toe with one of the strongest beings in the universe.
Regardless of how long he fought Zarumamu he just got slaughtered over and over again. There's only so much you can learn by dying in 6 seconds over and over again even if it takes 100 years for Zarumamu to finally give up. I do like the theory that he gained experience by watching them fail against Thanos though, that one makes sense. It's like studying your opponent, 5 years x 14 million times... he should have learned some pretty interesting things throughout that time, potentially even spells that he creates during timelines that never exist.
Not to mention the 14,000,605 alternate realities that Strange had to live and fight through in order to find the one path to victory over Thanos in Infinity War. That is a lot of experience in some very tough battles. He was using the exact same looping ability that he used against Dormammu. However we don't see it from his perspective this time. If we did it would have taken thousands of years.
Sitwell: "... anyone who is a threat to HYDRA - now or in the future." Rogers: "In the future? How could it know?" Sitwell: "How could it not!? The 21st century is a digital book. Zola taught HYDRA how to read it. Your bank records, medical histories, voting patterns, emails, phone calls, your damn SAT scores! Zola's algorithm evaluates people's past to predict their future."
@@jimdigitalvideo and TVs and Cortana and Siri and Alexa and OnStar and... While active Cortana sends a steady audio stream to Microsoft even if you haven't said, "hey Cortana".
Red Skull "I've seen the future Captain. There are no flags." In the future Captain America becomes a man without a country Nomad in AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR. I guess Skull was right. He has seen the future.
MCU reason: He was likely on what they identified as a path that has a lot of similar elements to other superheroes. Real life reason: they needed to tease his debut a couple years in advance.
When Dr Strange was driving, before the car crash, his assistant told him about an Air Force colonel that suffered a back injury in an experimental armor. That’s accepted as a reference to Rhodey after the events of Civil War
Possible, or Hydra targeted anyone extremely intelligent who could be a possible leader to a resistance against Hydra. In Hydra's mind better safe than sorry. KILL 'EM! Boy, I hate Hydra.
It can also detect the political preferences of these intelligent people, whether or not they would side with Hydra if they ever rose to power again. Because even Zola himself was intelligent, but he was also a nazi, so hes protected by Hydra.
The surgeon theory makes sense, however, Zola's algorithm *should* have predicted that if Strange was pushed he'd likely be a threat in general, specifics unknown.
He had notoriety from being an extremely talented surgeon. That talent, having singular focus coupled with a keen intellect, would make him an extremely dangerous threat if he'd ever turn his attention to Hydra. What he was doing or what he ended up becoming are incidental to how he could do what he did. The willpower it would take to suffer dozens of deaths at Dormammu's hands is staggering. Hydra wouldn't want that kind of willpower opposing them. Some people just can't be broken.
@@AWW8472 exactly my point. You never know how people will turn out, the exact circumstances, but you can make an educated guess as to which side of the fight they'll be on and some people are tremendous threats, gamma irradiated and green or crippled and calling the shots from home base. Nick Fury is a huge threat and he hasn't been in a straight up fight in years.
A doctor of his caliber would either be recruited by Hydra or killed if he turned them down. Everyone on that list would not only be a threat to Hydra but an invaluable asset. Doctor Strange's attitude would have made the Zola Algorithm determine that he would turn down Hydra if approached openly and betray Hydra if brought in covertly. It was the same with Bruce Banner and the honor student in North Dakota. I wonder who that person will be? Definitely one of the Young Avengers, but who? America Chavez, maybe?
Simple answer wins. Critical surgery biggest success factor is time not skill of the surgeon. Chronic illness and experimental treatments are more dependent on skill.
@@TekniCaliSpeakin to be fair, if you're there first but all thumbs the patient still dies. Strange's gift was magnificent dexterity and enough knowledge to put that to use. Simply being fast isn't enough on it's own. What you're describing is more than skill, it's education and being able to apply that knowledge while thinking outside the box. 30 years with Lyme, I've dealt with good doctors and crap doctors.
@@glenwaldrop8166 primary objective in trauma surgery is to stop blood loss. Unless we're talking traumatic brain injuries. But even in that case the tissue is still destroyed.
@@glenwaldrop8166 my point exactly! Hydra wouldn't kill him to lessen the survival chances of critically injured survivors. I did healthcare marketing for years. Urgent Care doctors rarely even get reviews because time is the most important factor. Totally different strategy when marketing for an Urgent Care Center vs a Speciality Physician.
.i always felt that hydra was recruiting without flat out saying they were hydra, strange is a renowned surgeon whos flashy and maybe they approached him with money for some vague off the books experimental procedures and even though hes a bit of a douche hes not that big of ann asshole and turned them down not knowing he made an enemy
Strange had it in him to literally allow himself to be tortured forever to save the world. This did not spring fully formed from a few months of training and a good talking to by the Ancient One. Something about that level of commitment showed up in his behavior--and explains why someone so fascinating would love him.
Well, we know that Strange’s name was already known among the sorcerers in 2012, because Banner and The Ancient One both talked about Strange in Endgame. The Nazis were known to be very into the Occult, so Hydra could have been interested as well.
Bruh, Banner is from the future, and just because the Ancient one knows of Dr Strange doesn't mean all the sorcerers know him, she is THE Ancient one that possesses the time stone, so of course she has some insight of the next sorcerer supreme.
@@AuserpTheGold He’s not the Sorcerer Supreme yet. And, by her own admission, she was unable to see beyond her own death, so it would have been impossible for her to see him in that position.
I believe that you're right, but i feel that the answer is much more simple: Hydra know that they are evil and dont care, but understand that most people with a conscience would oppose hydra at face value. this being the case, nearly everyone would be seen as an enemy. the reason steven strange was a threat, is that he had skills that would benefit the enemies of hydra. this means that he had to go, along with anyone else that had world class skills. taking away knowledge has always been a weapon of tyrannical rulers.
I agree. I think, essentially, hydra went through everyone and listed out the people they would believe (mostly on indications of intelligence and commitment) would be high up on both sides. Some of the these very smart and hard working people would work for hydra eventually, some would work against, and they tried to predict who would be who. After all originally hydra wasn’t only beat by captain America, but with the help of his group of normal, albeit very talented, soldiers. Obviously superhumans would be put on their list, but as evidence with fat Thor you can be a literal god but if your mind is weak you won’t be much of anything. And obviously iron man makes it clear that even if you’re a normal dude if you’re smart and hard working (and rich but that normally follows the other two) you can stand toe to toe with superhumans. So anyone who is high in either intelligence and hardworkingness, or superhuman, is going to be on their list.
I agree that it's a really good movie but it didn't feel like a marvel movie to me. Kinda felt like a political spy thriller that used Captain America as a setting. I love it but I don't think calling it the best MARVEL movie makes a ton of sense
@@numinous2506 His only concern with his reputation in the opening minutes of the movie - had more to do with success to failure ratio - more than the actual patients he treated... at least that's how I recall it. The main point I was making was - pretty sure Hydra could have hired him for his medical abilities... at which point why kill an asset?
Good theory. This brings another question to my mind. Was the accident actually an attempt at Steven strange life? Is Hydra or their counter parts responsible for inadvertently creating Dr strange? Did their lust for blood actually create a bigger monster then they had ever thought strange could be?
No, as shown in recent “what if” episodes. His loss of hands is an absolute point I.e it has to happen. Even if hydra caused it. No matter what he will lose his hands
It would be a rather crazy twist if the algorithm picked up on the timelines, alternate realities, and "nexus events" that's a primitive variation of what Kang's tech was.
The power level of the asgardians are incoherent For me their power level are teen asgardians but the actors looks in character in their mid 30s Except when thor came back with stormbreaker Now we saw a fraction of the real thor on screen Dr strange dealed with the aesirs quick tho He isolated loki to gather info And he cordially talk to thor Loki seems like a troublesome being for him tho Considering the nature of loki in the MCU with time travel and multiversing
It would only be good if they took the agent of shield approach and introduced hive as hydras true leader, then dr strange may have a run for his money vs the inhumans .
I always viewed the algorithm more as a way to predict behavioural patterns: the algorithm targeted strange because on the long run it deemed that Stephen Strange’s morals would come in the way of Hydra, the algorithm didn’t magically predict that he would become a sorcerer, it simply predicted that more likely than not given the circumstances Strange is more likely to oppose Hydra rather than besupportive or even just stand by passively and let things happen. Also yes he was at the top of his game with his medical skills, but that alone doesn’t make him an enemy of Hydra, surely hydra would want those skills in their ranks, but when it really boils down to it Strange would still be more likely to oppose than help=target. I was interested in this video because I wanted to know how others had interpreted the reference - apparently there are many different ways.
You pit Dr. Strange below those 3, He can separate Thor's and Carol's astral forms from their bodies and lock them in mirror dimension LOL. With Wanda, He'd have to toil a lil bit harder but He will win for sure!!! He's gonna be The Sorcerer Supreme. IMO The Ancient One was never afraid of any being in the entire multiverse. She believed she could take everyone of them down and she herself said Dr. Strange will be the Best.
yes the ancient one is Very very strong, however she is in raw power arguably stronger than Strange, due to ritual of kagliostro, also your forgetting that "The Scarlet Witch holds power of which surpasses even the sorcerer supreme!"
Or... And hear me out now, the algorithm knew that he'd seen a patient with a connection to the mystic arts in the past even if he didn't know. *And* it also knew that he liked to talk on the phone while driving at high speeds, thinking that he was invincible. Thus, it understood that his accident was high probability, if not an eventuality; and further, so was his making contact with the former patient. Dgmw, I like your idea too. And it's possible that was also calculated in. However, sometimes the simplest explanation makes the most sense
that Steven would enter in a car acident,somehow not dying,not getting in a wheelchair,blind,mentaly incapacitated but especificaly injuring his hands in a way that gives him hope they can get restored so he keeps that hope for months which in turn leads him to contact guy X which leads him to Country X in building X to meet with member X which in turn is part of X to learn the mystical arts
Yes but yours make no sense at all. His explanation is the simplest and more likely.Famous doctor who could help Hydra or Hydra's enemies needs to either be recruited or taken down>Algorithm finding out about his previous pacients ordeals with the mystical arts and
@@jordancreed3003 that it was a possibility that if he recovered from such an accident he could go talk to this guy is *absolutely* a simpler explanation than one that adds several steps. By definition it's simpler
I like this theory. I had my own theory before endgame came out, and I’d like to share it with you guys. My theory was that when Strange was looking at all the possible outcomes, he wasn’t just looking, he was nudging history in the way it needed to go. The first thing he did was to take his astral form back in time to the battle of New York, and we would see that Nick fury was about to call Captain Marvel. Strange would appear to fury in astral form, introduce himself, and tell him to wait. The next thing he would’ve done was to appear to Heimdel and tell Heimdel he needed to get Bruce Banner to Strange’s sanctorum. The third thing he did was to appear to the Hulk in astralform on his way to Strange’s sanctum Santorum, and convince the Hulk not to come out. I hadn’t flushed out why Hulk not appearing would be critical to the success of defeating Thanos, but I thought that it must’ve held the key. This explains a couple things that haven’t been adequately addressed: Why Heimdel sent Banner to Strange, why the Hulk didn’t come out, and how Hydra/Shield knew about Doctor Strange years earlier.
Strange must be vastly experienced now, with immense mental fortitude. The amount of time he's spent living out alternative timelines is insane; just existing for that long is an unfathomable test of will.
During the Doctor strange movie when he is driving right before his accident it sounds like they are describing the accident that happened to Rhodie during Civil war.
Let's go to TAHITI! He was one of the surgeons brought in that knew about 'Project Tahiti' led by Agent Phil Coulson to save recently dead or dying Shield Agents using Kree blood and an automated surgery suite that could restore the neural connections in the Brain.
I think it is far more likely that at some point Strange time traveled - and appeared in the past (2014 or earlier), and Hydra/Shield became aware of his existence.
I think that the best, and paradoxically, simplest explanation is time travel. Strange was in possession of the Time stone for awhile. He almost certainly did some time travel that wasn't shown on screen.
I always figured that HYDRA saw strange as materialistic and prideful, and thus figured they could buy him to help with various medical experiments, promising to let him name a new procedure after himself.
The ancient one knew years in advance that Strange would become the best of them. I think Hydra's surveillance simply picked up a conversation she had about him, maybe even when she spoke to Hulk on the roof in Endgame
Maybe but I doubt it. He was driving super fast on a winding curving hill amd then trying to read something on his phone. Thats called being a dumbass and with or without Hydra its something that was bound to happen. He's lucky this was an MCU movie as reality that crash would have been 99.9% chance in his death.
@@daraghokane4236 You think so? That was a steep cliff and he was going if I remember correctly at or near 100. I'm no expert but it seems unlikely you'd survive that.
That's actually a very good theory. On top of being more practical than agents of Hydra encountered sorcerer strange in the past it's a reasonable assumption that his surgery skills as much of the danger as they are a potential benefit
Did you guys know that doctor strange could see the Tva in all 14m probabilities? Loki is literally a occurance impossibility if the timeline is sacred.
But if the tva freezes time... And the infinity stones are useless inside the tva... Is it possible for the time stone to show someone the tva whereas they might be undetectable. I thought things can change a little but the big variences in the time line is what creates a nexus and has to be purged
The only problem I have with this is that Strange is so arrogant that he actively refuses to 1) work in the ER, which would be pretty crucial if there were any hope such figures would survive and 2) refuses cases that have a high probability that the patient wouldn't survive the surgery anyway. His main focus at that time was his "perfect record" and I don't see him giving that up, even for the president.
Even aside from his surgical prowess, Dr. Stephen Strange was very intelligent and good and recognizing patterns and thinking outside the box at the super-genius level. If Hydra could not assure someone like that was on their side, they would definitely take him out as a pre-emptive measure.
In my headcanon, hydra had him in their database because they needed to subtly hint at his upcoming movie without outright saying it. In the dark ages of the mcu there was slightly less connective tissue and they still included throwaway hints and nods that didn't actually have an explanation.
Strange has a superpower. He learns really fast and has a photographic memory. His personality though selfish was selfish like Tony Starke. Which gave him the ego to fight back. This more than anything else.
Strange was a famous doctor probably did things such as TV interviews and other public appearances so it was probably a better example of a famous doctor who was ell known for being extremely talented and committed to what he viewed as the best way to save the most lives and this would directly contradict hydras methods. So it was likely a combination of public appearances and his general outlook, or atleast what he stated as his outlook, of save the most people with his actions.
Dr. Strange in the MCU is very similar to His Comic book counterpart. He'll become more powerful than we could possibly imagine. See what I did there? 😊😊😊😊
Bruh, in Captain America the winter soldier, they legit explain that it’s a predictive threat program, anyone who’s currently a threat and anyone who could potentially be a threat in the future. By their beliefs and societal impacts.
I want to see one single scene, maybe flashback, with dr. Strange as a really good surgeon and not making basic mistakes that any nurse would kick him from entering theater!
This video got me thinking, what if his accident was actually an execution attemp by Hydra. So they made their problems much worse by trying to solve them.
I always thought that since, at the time, Hydra had the twins, they used Wanda to look into the future and saw Dr. Strange, being an early warning alert for Hydra, so in response to using her visions to see him, Hydra intentionally sent the car that Dr. Strange crashed into to assassinate him and make it look like an accident.
It makes me wonder how advanced Zola’s tech was because he was able to store himself in a computer so his tech was ahead of his time and maybe with the insight of the tesseract he deciphered the magic around divination, I think that could be a cool path Marvel can explore, Zola’s technological advances making him an even more interesting character than he already was
My theory is that they hadn't originally planned on making Dr Strange get his powers in modern day, but rather a few decades back or even as early as the 70s. Thus when he makes his debut he is already the Sorcerer Supreme, having already been training for decades and perhaps recently taken the place of the Ancient One. Then they decided to change it when they actually made the movie to make it all happen modern day. They even talked about the movie having a 60s/70s vibe early on. It could have had a more literal meaning originally. This would also explain why (imo) they've done a horrible job of explaining why Strange took over rather than Wong. It feels like that part was a bit rushed.
I'll go one better the accident that put Strange in the hospital and eventually his search for a cure was actually an attempt on his life that narrowly failed. Because it failed this flagged him as a much higher priority target. It's one thing for his abilities to make him dangerous but an accident of that sort and he continues to strive for a way back despite the odds? THAT is what marks him as dangerous, remember Steve Rogers? That level of determination I wouldn't be surprised if that specifically got him highlighted. Now I need to check when Winter Soldier took place and when the start of his movie began to see if Insight took place AFTER or BEFORE his accident. EDIT: Winter Soldier in 2014, the Dr Strange movie set in 2016?
I am sure that Zola's Algorithm was limited by whatever information was available to it about a certain subject. We can assume that any info it came across about Steven Strange showed him to be a brilliant, willful and Benevolent person. You don't become a Surgeon without a benevolent nature. I am sure there was a paper trail on Strange going back to his childhood and we do not know his entire backstory. Maybe he was involved with protests against corruption, or tyranny of some type. There was something that alerted the algorithm that he was a necessary target. It could even be as simple as charitable donations made to certain humanitarian groups.
Oh come on. The 'Winter Soldier' namecheck was just for fun. None of the creators knew the Dr Strange arc back then. It doesn't have any additional meaning. If an MCU creative had said it then it would be retconning. But as it is, this is just fan fiction. In 'Doctor Strange' (2016) in the car scene Strange hears about a patient that matches James Rhodes and his injury in 'Civil War'. A blogger asked Feige how much research fans should do on these references. Feige replied, "Not much. Not much. They're just bits of fun. Just little fun things."
His answer could be a strategy to keep the expectations of the fans low. They weren't sure if Doctor Strange was going to be released because the supposed INHUMANS movie which they talked about never released....Just saying
Nearly every popular alternate universe where people don’t get their powers feature Stephen Strange, Bruce Banner, Peter Parker, Matt Murdock, and a few others always get involved anyway because it’s just part of their nature. Interestingly, most of the time when Banner doesn’t become the Hulk he is a morally questionable character.
Not surprised since Strange used to operate upon people who had the chance to survive or make it through after the surgery and as a result operated on people least likely to die or end up deformed. Hence he had a high success rate and as a result chance to operate on highly placed individuals alongside his immense knowledge of the subject and medical prowess which would result him to be highly recommended, and hence likely to be recommended during the HYDRA attack on people. Hence, he kinda put himself up there on his list.
What if Strange was there in hospital with Stark at the end of Iron Man 3 to remove the arc reactor? I assume they didn't know each other back then until Infinity War.
I don't think so. Based on how he acted, I'm not sure Stark's procedure would be "interesting" enough for Strange to do it. Also he was a neuro-surgeon, not a heart surgeon.
Casual fans seem to miss the fact that Strange is so powerful because he has been practicing spells for a lot longer than you may think. For example he trapped Dormamu in a time loop at the end of the film for centuries with his consciousness still in tact. That paired with an eidetic memory, he could have literally practiced any spell he wanted without repercussion because he was going to die shortly after and begin the loop again and again. So by the time Endgame comes around, he is pretty damn powerful!
just my same thought are their remints of them in S.W.O.R.D, or perhaps with the multiverse about to crack open, would a varient of a hydra regime break into the main mcu time, giving bucky and sam wilson another challenge?
This makes a lot of sense! I really like this theory! But this also make me wonder why didn't being called in to operate Tony Stark when he needed to get that sharpnel off from his chest. Anyone knows why this is the case?
I mean… that’s what I figured all along. Strange was a hugely famous neurosurgeon long before he became a sorcerer. (Then again, maybe Hydra noted The Ancient One’s interest in Strange, as she expressed during the *Endgame* flashback…?)
It was just one of those easter eggs that seemed cute at the time, but is actually a continuity error over when Dr Strange began his mystical career. If memory serves me right they had him located at the Bleeker Street Sanctum Sanctorum which obviously wasn't his home when he was a medical doctor.
Makes sense at the beginning of the car crash scene when he's reviewing potential patients one of them is a soldier that experienced a spinal injury in an experimental armor I'm pretty sure he was talking about war machine after the events of civil war. This would perfectly back up your theory that the government and major businesses had Doctor strange on speed dial for high value patients
@@kinglegoiii He would've died by then or at least have been recommended earlier. Doctor strange happened after Civil War and Iron man 2. So no it wasn't the pilot from IM2
@@g-forcemapping8454 bro no I'm pretty sure the director confirmed it Rhodey isn't 35 in civil war And experimental armor War machine isn't classified as experimental The hammer suit is
@@g-forcemapping8454 also unless if The man has Time travel it would be impossible because Doctor strange takes place before CW also the man most likely already has had surgery before the call
Do not forget the people who may have Dr Strange's phone number... As shown in the phone call that he received before the accident. I'm sure the algorithm may connect Dr Strange with high profile treats to HYDRA via his phone number
Marvel fan-theorist: strange was talented, strange had this and that… Marvel in reality: we just want to name drop to build hype for a upcoming movie so that people will research it ahead of time.
It's simple...Hydra also dabbles in the mystical arts as well...In the comics the have mastered reincarnation and other forms of magic...ie the teseract Hydra has been around since the ancient times so it would stand to reason they would know about the ancient one..So what the algorithm did was take all known magic users with the probability to become the sorcerer Supreme it....maybe came up with like 7-8 most likely to make the cut...
They’re plane was to kill him along with the other hundreds of thousands of people they were going to be killed with Project Insight, where the helicarriers were used as a targeting system that would kill everyone that was targeted
There's also an obvious explanation of why Dr. Strange was targeted by hydra before he became sorcerer supreme. Ancient one is able to look into the possibilities of the future, according to endgame when smart hulk went back to 2012 where she already knew about Steven strange 4 years before the events of Dr. Strange(the movie). Hydra's a algorithm may have used the ancient one to track down people who have the possibility to become powerful.
I think he was recruited by Hydra/Shield and he most likely declined or told them to piss off. So they marked him for assassination since he's obviously not someone to comply.
In Endgame when Dr. Bruce Banner is talking to the Ancient One she claims "He's supposed to be the best of us" speaking about the best sorcerer. I'm pretty sure hydra marked him for death because he was going to be such a good/the best sorcerer not because he was such a good neurosurgeon.
what if he simply is so arrogant and proud that he bows to no one? he butted heads with the likes of Ancient One even when he's on his lowest and continued to antagonize her and chase after her secret while still being a novice. imagine if Hydra tried to make him submit to their rule
Anyone else want to see Zola and Red Skull return? Also Hydra needs to return, it’s a great villainous organisation. It makes sense, he’s the best doctor, so hes a threat
This theory is true because now looking back the movie MoM he references hydra during his first encounter with mordo and he said it in a way which was like he knew about the target list he was on.
Or after he was the sorcerer supreme he used the time stone and went back in time before he was the sorcerer supreme and had a run in with hydra then went back forward in time leaving them with knowledge of him
A popular fan theory I like is Strange, while technically a novice, spent months if not years fighting in the Dark Dimension (I've come to bargain). By virtue of being killed multiple times in multiple ways he learned how to survive the hard way. Which is why I'm giving him a slight edge over Wanda. She got very lucky in her fight with Agatha Harkness. She may be a quick study but Strange has gone toe-to-toe with one of the strongest beings in the universe.
I like this theory. It makes a lot of sense
Regardless of how long he fought Zarumamu he just got slaughtered over and over again. There's only so much you can learn by dying in 6 seconds over and over again even if it takes 100 years for Zarumamu to finally give up.
I do like the theory that he gained experience by watching them fail against Thanos though, that one makes sense.
It's like studying your opponent, 5 years x 14 million times... he should have learned some pretty interesting things throughout that time, potentially even spells that he creates during timelines that never exist.
I think I read somewhere the other day that he was fighting Dormarmu in the DD for 42 years!!!jeeeeezzzzz
Not to mention the 14,000,605 alternate realities that Strange had to live and fight through in order to find the one path to victory over Thanos in Infinity War. That is a lot of experience in some very tough battles. He was using the exact same looping ability that he used against Dormammu. However we don't see it from his perspective this time. If we did it would have taken thousands of years.
@@glenwaldrop8166 Zarumamu? 🤣🤣
Sitwell: "... anyone who is a threat to HYDRA - now or in the future."
Rogers: "In the future? How could it know?"
Sitwell: "How could it not!? The 21st century is a digital book. Zola taught HYDRA how to read it. Your bank records, medical histories, voting patterns, emails, phone calls, your damn SAT scores! Zola's algorithm evaluates people's past to predict their future."
And also spy satellites and cameras everywhere!
And people's smartphones listening to everything they say and do.
@@jimdigitalvideo and TVs and Cortana and Siri and Alexa and OnStar and...
While active Cortana sends a steady audio stream to Microsoft even if you haven't said, "hey Cortana".
Red Skull "I've seen the future Captain. There are no flags." In the future Captain America becomes a man without a country Nomad in AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR. I guess Skull was right. He has seen the future.
@@mohammedjammeh9598 If he saw the future, did he also foresee his fate as a guardian of the Soul Stone?
MCU reason: He was likely on what they identified as a path that has a lot of similar elements to other superheroes.
Real life reason: they needed to tease his debut a couple years in advance.
When Dr Strange was driving, before the car crash, his assistant told him about an Air Force colonel that suffered a back injury in an experimental armor. That’s accepted as a reference to Rhodey after the events of Civil War
Is this a confirmed fact or is it just a theory?
@TGDS I'm pretty sure you're right
@TGDS i mean if it is he's year to late to get that fixed
No dr strange happened before civil war
@TGDS A FILM THEORY, THANKS FOR WATCHING
Possible, or Hydra targeted anyone extremely intelligent who could be a possible leader to a resistance against Hydra. In Hydra's mind better safe than sorry. KILL 'EM! Boy, I hate Hydra.
It can also detect the political preferences of these intelligent people, whether or not they would side with Hydra if they ever rose to power again. Because even Zola himself was intelligent, but he was also a nazi, so hes protected by Hydra.
The Terminator vs John Connor argument does make more sense.
I know that hydra wouldn't have target ppl that are still "theorizing" about something that has already been explained in the movie 😂
The accident was not an accident
The surgeon theory makes sense, however, Zola's algorithm *should* have predicted that if Strange was pushed he'd likely be a threat in general, specifics unknown.
He had notoriety from being an extremely talented surgeon. That talent, having singular focus coupled with a keen intellect, would make him an extremely dangerous threat if he'd ever turn his attention to Hydra. What he was doing or what he ended up becoming are incidental to how he could do what he did. The willpower it would take to suffer dozens of deaths at Dormammu's hands is staggering. Hydra wouldn't want that kind of willpower opposing them. Some people just can't be broken.
@@AWW8472 exactly my point.
You never know how people will turn out, the exact circumstances, but you can make an educated guess as to which side of the fight they'll be on and some people are tremendous threats, gamma irradiated and green or crippled and calling the shots from home base.
Nick Fury is a huge threat and he hasn't been in a straight up fight in years.
A doctor of his caliber would either be recruited by Hydra or killed if he turned them down. Everyone on that list would not only be a threat to Hydra but an invaluable asset. Doctor Strange's attitude would have made the Zola Algorithm determine that he would turn down Hydra if approached openly and betray Hydra if brought in covertly. It was the same with Bruce Banner and the honor student in North Dakota. I wonder who that person will be? Definitely one of the Young Avengers, but who? America Chavez, maybe?
Simple answer wins. Critical surgery biggest success factor is time not skill of the surgeon.
Chronic illness and experimental treatments are more dependent on skill.
@@TekniCaliSpeakin to be fair, if you're there first but all thumbs the patient still dies.
Strange's gift was magnificent dexterity and enough knowledge to put that to use.
Simply being fast isn't enough on it's own.
What you're describing is more than skill, it's education and being able to apply that knowledge while thinking outside the box. 30 years with Lyme, I've dealt with good doctors and crap doctors.
@@glenwaldrop8166 primary objective in trauma surgery is to stop blood loss. Unless we're talking traumatic brain injuries. But even in that case the tissue is still destroyed.
@@TekniCaliSpeakin he's a neuro surgeon, not a trauma surgeon.
He even referred to ER trauma surgeons as butchers and hacks in the movie.
@@glenwaldrop8166 my point exactly! Hydra wouldn't kill him to lessen the survival chances of critically injured survivors. I did healthcare marketing for years. Urgent Care doctors rarely even get reviews because time is the most important factor. Totally different strategy when marketing for an Urgent Care Center vs a Speciality Physician.
.i always felt that hydra was recruiting without flat out saying they were hydra, strange is a renowned surgeon whos flashy and maybe they approached him with money for some vague off the books experimental procedures and even though hes a bit of a douche hes not that big of ann asshole and turned them down not knowing he made an enemy
I like this theory the most
@@kendrickparks9129 .thanks
This is a really creative theory👍
@@tyrelkushonda2908 .thanks man
That soldier in the suit was one of theirs and he refused to help because there was nothing he could do to fix that much damage..... sounds familiar.
Strange had it in him to literally allow himself to be tortured forever to save the world. This did not spring fully formed from a few months of training and a good talking to by the Ancient One. Something about that level of commitment showed up in his behavior--and explains why someone so fascinating would love him.
Stephen strange has a high Iq, that could be something that the algorithm picked on and Marked it as a threat
Especially since agent Sitwell listed him along with Bruce Banner, who is also one of the smartest minds in the MCU.
@@natereath4966 yeah
Also, he wants fame which will lead him to work for SHIELD or against HYDRA
Well, we know that Strange’s name was already known among the sorcerers in 2012, because Banner and The Ancient One both talked about Strange in Endgame.
The Nazis were known to be very into the Occult, so Hydra could have been interested as well.
The ancient one always knew about dr strange. Before he was even born probably. That doesn't really count.
Bruh, Banner is from the future, and just because the Ancient one knows of Dr Strange doesn't mean all the sorcerers know him, she is THE Ancient one that possesses the time stone, so of course she has some insight of the next sorcerer supreme.
@@AuserpTheGold He’s not the Sorcerer Supreme yet. And, by her own admission, she was unable to see beyond her own death, so it would have been impossible for her to see him in that position.
@@Pub2k4 The point is, she is aware of Strange's significance as far back as 2012, long before he even had his accident.
@@bobagorof That’s exactly the point I’m arguing…
I believe that you're right, but i feel that the answer is much more simple: Hydra know that they are evil and dont care, but understand that most people with a conscience would oppose hydra at face value. this being the case, nearly everyone would be seen as an enemy. the reason steven strange was a threat, is that he had skills that would benefit the enemies of hydra. this means that he had to go, along with anyone else that had world class skills. taking away knowledge has always been a weapon of tyrannical rulers.
I agree. I think, essentially, hydra went through everyone and listed out the people they would believe (mostly on indications of intelligence and commitment) would be high up on both sides. Some of the these very smart and hard working people would work for hydra eventually, some would work against, and they tried to predict who would be who. After all originally hydra wasn’t only beat by captain America, but with the help of his group of normal, albeit very talented, soldiers. Obviously superhumans would be put on their list, but as evidence with fat Thor you can be a literal god but if your mind is weak you won’t be much of anything. And obviously iron man makes it clear that even if you’re a normal dude if you’re smart and hard working (and rich but that normally follows the other two) you can stand toe to toe with superhumans. So anyone who is high in either intelligence and hardworkingness, or superhuman, is going to be on their list.
@@bulldozer8950 aqq
This is just more proof that
Cpt America: The Winter Soldier is the one of
IF NOT the Best Marvel Movies to date.
No way freak loki is the best show cause multiverse started from them and an epic villan kang came into existence
@@akberkhan8342 ''movies''
I agree that it's a really good movie but it didn't feel like a marvel movie to me. Kinda felt like a political spy thriller that used Captain America as a setting. I love it but I don't think calling it the best MARVEL movie makes a ton of sense
@@akberkhan8342 Movies different with series mate
1) Destiny 2 emblem. 2) Shang Chi is really good too
The Ancient One in Endgame in 2012: Your about *FIVE* Years too early
Everyone: Imma pretend I didn't see that
But wasn't Captain America the Winter soldier came out in 2014
The first dr strange movie was released at the end of 2016 so that’s the 5 years referenced
It's simple: He was marked because the algorithm found him to be strange
Okay that was smart... angryupvote
I see what you did there!😂
Why wouldn’t Strange accept money from Hydra? I mean he’s fairly mercenary in his medical practice.
who says he wouldn't? he'd just accept money from others and help anyone really that can pay.
He wouldn't turn them down unless it would harm his reputation.
@@numinous2506 Which helping hydra absolutely would in every single sense of the word. As he'd be helping people who comitted mass genocide
@@numinous2506 His only concern with his reputation in the opening minutes of the movie - had more to do with success to failure ratio - more than the actual patients he treated... at least that's how I recall it.
The main point I was making was - pretty sure Hydra could have hired him for his medical abilities... at which point why kill an asset?
Good theory. This brings another question to my mind. Was the accident actually an attempt at Steven strange life? Is Hydra or their counter parts responsible for inadvertently creating Dr strange? Did their lust for blood actually create a bigger monster then they had ever thought strange could be?
No, as shown in recent “what if” episodes. His loss of hands is an absolute point I.e it has to happen. Even if hydra caused it. No matter what he will lose his hands
@@shaunlobo940 you completely misunderstood the entire episode. It’s an absolute point only if he tries to change it
What if Zolaf’s system caught The Ancient One watching Strange? That would definitely mark him as a threat.
The ancient one legally doesn't exist so there's no register or files of her
It would be a rather crazy twist if the algorithm picked up on the timelines, alternate realities, and "nexus events" that's a primitive variation of what Kang's tech was.
Dr. Strange was also smart enough to do perfect (near) surgery and if paid enough, he could probably save someone like Rogers or even Banner
I have a hard time believing Thor is more powerful than Doctor Strange.
Asgardians are weak to magic, Dr strange would win
#StrongestAvenger ... So long as nothing happens to Korg, all is well. . .
The power level of the asgardians are incoherent
For me their power level are teen asgardians but the actors looks in character in their mid 30s
Except when thor came back with stormbreaker
Now we saw a fraction of the real thor on screen
Dr strange dealed with the aesirs quick tho
He isolated loki to gather info
And he cordially talk to thor
Loki seems like a troublesome being for him tho
Considering the nature of loki in the MCU with time travel and multiversing
Doctor Strange literally toyed with Thor and Loki in Ragnarok.
@@abyske8215 Loki isn't asgardian
Dr Strange vs Hydra would be so cool to see.
Definitely one sided for sure. Send them all to Antarctica
He would destroy hydra
@@Kriscuit_Bonkin actually 8 sided.........🐙
Yeah, a group that regularly gets beaten by Captain America vs a guy that casually destroys entire dimensions. I wonder who wins that fight 🤔
It would only be good if they took the agent of shield approach and introduced hive as hydras true leader, then dr strange may have a run for his money vs the inhumans .
I always viewed the algorithm more as a way to predict behavioural patterns: the algorithm targeted strange because on the long run it deemed that Stephen Strange’s morals would come in the way of Hydra, the algorithm didn’t magically predict that he would become a sorcerer, it simply predicted that more likely than not given the circumstances Strange is more likely to oppose Hydra rather than besupportive or even just stand by passively and let things happen. Also yes he was at the top of his game with his medical skills, but that alone doesn’t make him an enemy of Hydra, surely hydra would want those skills in their ranks, but when it really boils down to it Strange would still be more likely to oppose than help=target. I was interested in this video because I wanted to know how others had interpreted the reference - apparently there are many different ways.
You pit Dr. Strange below those 3, He can separate Thor's and Carol's astral forms from their bodies and lock them in mirror dimension LOL.
With Wanda, He'd have to toil a lil bit harder but He will win for sure!!! He's gonna be The Sorcerer Supreme. IMO The Ancient One was never afraid of any being in the entire multiverse. She believed she could take everyone of them down and she herself said Dr. Strange will be the Best.
yes the ancient one is Very very strong, however she is in raw power arguably stronger than Strange, due to ritual of kagliostro, also your forgetting that "The Scarlet Witch holds power of which surpasses even the sorcerer supreme!"
scarlet witch for now is much more powerful than the ancient one
thats before strange reaches his prime
Or... And hear me out now, the algorithm knew that he'd seen a patient with a connection to the mystic arts in the past even if he didn't know. *And* it also knew that he liked to talk on the phone while driving at high speeds, thinking that he was invincible. Thus, it understood that his accident was high probability, if not an eventuality; and further, so was his making contact with the former patient.
Dgmw, I like your idea too. And it's possible that was also calculated in. However, sometimes the simplest explanation makes the most sense
that Steven would enter in a car acident,somehow not dying,not getting in a wheelchair,blind,mentaly incapacitated but especificaly injuring his hands in a way that gives him hope they can get restored so he keeps that hope for months which in turn leads him to contact guy X which leads him to Country X in building X to meet with member X which in turn is part of X to learn the mystical arts
Yes but yours make no sense at all.
His explanation is the simplest and more likely.Famous doctor who could help Hydra or Hydra's enemies needs to either be recruited or taken down>Algorithm finding out about his previous pacients ordeals with the mystical arts and
@@jordancreed3003 that it was a possibility that if he recovered from such an accident he could go talk to this guy is *absolutely* a simpler explanation than one that adds several steps. By definition it's simpler
@@LoudAngryJerk Not true,has I said before you are junping so many steps...
But I wont repeat myself so...
Here's a thought people... Dr Strange eventually becomes really good at time travel and is a sorceror supreme "for all time"
Always
plot twist: he is also the Ancient One
always
I like this theory. I had my own theory before endgame came out, and I’d like to share it with you guys. My theory was that when Strange was looking at all the possible outcomes, he wasn’t just looking, he was nudging history in the way it needed to go. The first thing he did was to take his astral form back in time to the battle of New York, and we would see that Nick fury was about to call Captain Marvel. Strange would appear to fury in astral form, introduce himself, and tell him to wait. The next thing he would’ve done was to appear to Heimdel and tell Heimdel he needed to get Bruce Banner to Strange’s sanctorum. The third thing he did was to appear to the Hulk in astralform on his way to Strange’s sanctum Santorum, and convince the Hulk not to come out. I hadn’t flushed out why Hulk not appearing would be critical to the success of defeating Thanos, but I thought that it must’ve held the key. This explains a couple things that haven’t been adequately addressed: Why Heimdel sent Banner to Strange, why the Hulk didn’t come out, and how Hydra/Shield knew about Doctor Strange years earlier.
That theory is absurd but okay
Strange must be vastly experienced now, with immense mental fortitude. The amount of time he's spent living out alternative timelines is insane; just existing for that long is an unfathomable test of will.
During the Doctor strange movie when he is driving right before his accident it sounds like they are describing the accident that happened to Rhodie during Civil war.
To me this is very interesting, but is it true?
@@valeriejoylauria8944 no it's not true Doctor Strange is set before Civil war
Let's go to TAHITI! He was one of the surgeons brought in that knew about 'Project Tahiti' led by Agent Phil Coulson to save recently dead or dying Shield Agents using Kree blood and an automated surgery suite that could restore the neural connections in the Brain.
I think it is far more likely that at some point Strange time traveled - and appeared in the past (2014 or earlier), and Hydra/Shield became aware of his existence.
I think that the best, and paradoxically, simplest explanation is time travel. Strange was in possession of the Time stone for awhile. He almost certainly did some time travel that wasn't shown on screen.
Imagine watching mcu heroes getting beaten up by thanos for thousands of years. Couldn't be Dr.Strange
I always figured that HYDRA saw strange as materialistic and prideful, and thus figured they could buy him to help with various medical experiments, promising to let him name a new procedure after himself.
The ancient one knew years in advance that Strange would become the best of them. I think Hydra's surveillance simply picked up a conversation she had about him, maybe even when she spoke to Hulk on the roof in Endgame
Hydra caused the accident as a botched assination attempt. They made him.
Or he crashed by he was distracted by his phone. Unless they rang him doubt that
Maybe but I doubt it. He was driving super fast on a winding curving hill amd then trying to read something on his phone. Thats called being a dumbass and with or without Hydra its something that was bound to happen. He's lucky this was an MCU movie as reality that crash would have been 99.9% chance in his death.
@@Mew_Mokuba_Akari the odds of survive a car crash is higher then that
@@daraghokane4236 You think so? That was a steep cliff and he was going if I remember correctly at or near 100. I'm no expert but it seems unlikely you'd survive that.
I mean Anyone who can learn and adapt quickly is a threat to a controlling power like hydra.
That's actually a very good theory. On top of being more practical than agents of Hydra encountered sorcerer strange in the past it's a reasonable assumption that his surgery skills as much of the danger as they are a potential benefit
Did you guys know that doctor strange could see the Tva in all 14m probabilities? Loki is literally a occurance impossibility if the timeline is sacred.
He might of saw the TVA but it’s more likely he saw flashes of the failure and the reason why
@@kidwhoscrolls 🧢🧢
But if the tva freezes time... And the infinity stones are useless inside the tva... Is it possible for the time stone to show someone the tva whereas they might be undetectable. I thought things can change a little but the big variences in the time line is what creates a nexus and has to be purged
The only problem I have with this is that Strange is so arrogant that he actively refuses to 1) work in the ER, which would be pretty crucial if there were any hope such figures would survive and 2) refuses cases that have a high probability that the patient wouldn't survive the surgery anyway. His main focus at that time was his "perfect record" and I don't see him giving that up, even for the president.
Even aside from his surgical prowess, Dr. Stephen Strange was very intelligent and good and recognizing patterns and thinking outside the box at the super-genius level. If Hydra could not assure someone like that was on their side, they would definitely take him out as a pre-emptive measure.
He was marked by Hydra just as an Easter egg by Marvel. No need to overthink.
In my headcanon, hydra had him in their database because they needed to subtly hint at his upcoming movie without outright saying it. In the dark ages of the mcu there was slightly less connective tissue and they still included throwaway hints and nods that didn't actually have an explanation.
Basically Hydra has a time machine they aren't using properly?
That sounds about right.
@Aaron Jafri it was a joke.
Strange has a superpower. He learns really fast and has a photographic memory. His personality though selfish was selfish like Tony Starke. Which gave him the ego to fight back. This more than anything else.
Theory: Hydra had access to the comics
We’ll because…. He’s a ……. Superhero 🤷🏻♂️
He was marked before he became a superhero.
Strange was a famous doctor probably did things such as TV interviews and other public appearances so it was probably a better example of a famous doctor who was ell known for being extremely talented and committed to what he viewed as the best way to save the most lives and this would directly contradict hydras methods.
So it was likely a combination of public appearances and his general outlook, or atleast what he stated as his outlook, of save the most people with his actions.
Dr. Strange in the MCU is very similar to His Comic book counterpart. He'll become more powerful than we could possibly imagine.
See what I did there? 😊😊😊😊
On a scale, hitherto undreamt of
@@Lightshows714 did you seriously just say On a scale hitherto undreamt of?
@@UltimateSpider1385 did you seriously just not.....understand that reference??
@@kendrickparks9129 I do understand the reference. I just added that quote by Tony Stark.
@@kendrickparks9129 he said what tony says afterwards
Bruh, in Captain America the winter soldier, they legit explain that it’s a predictive threat program, anyone who’s currently a threat and anyone who could potentially be a threat in the future. By their beliefs and societal impacts.
I want to see one single scene, maybe flashback, with dr. Strange as a really good surgeon and not making basic mistakes that any nurse would kick him from entering theater!
This video got me thinking, what if his accident was actually an execution attemp by Hydra. So they made their problems much worse by trying to solve them.
I always thought that since, at the time, Hydra had the twins, they used Wanda to look into the future and saw Dr. Strange, being an early warning alert for Hydra, so in response to using her visions to see him, Hydra intentionally sent the car that Dr. Strange crashed into to assassinate him and make it look like an accident.
It makes me wonder how advanced Zola’s tech was because he was able to store himself in a computer so his tech was ahead of his time and maybe with the insight of the tesseract he deciphered the magic around divination, I think that could be a cool path Marvel can explore, Zola’s technological advances making him an even more interesting character than he already was
My theory is that they hadn't originally planned on making Dr Strange get his powers in modern day, but rather a few decades back or even as early as the 70s. Thus when he makes his debut he is already the Sorcerer Supreme, having already been training for decades and perhaps recently taken the place of the Ancient One. Then they decided to change it when they actually made the movie to make it all happen modern day. They even talked about the movie having a 60s/70s vibe early on. It could have had a more literal meaning originally. This would also explain why (imo) they've done a horrible job of explaining why Strange took over rather than Wong. It feels like that part was a bit rushed.
I never really thought about this, my mind is kinda blown right now
I would simply guess that Strange's personal beliefs, life choices, political affiliation, etc. would have marked him a threat to Hydra.
I'll go one better the accident that put Strange in the hospital and eventually his search for a cure was actually an attempt on his life that narrowly failed.
Because it failed this flagged him as a much higher priority target.
It's one thing for his abilities to make him dangerous but an accident of that sort and he continues to strive for a way back despite the odds?
THAT is what marks him as dangerous, remember Steve Rogers?
That level of determination I wouldn't be surprised if that specifically got him highlighted.
Now I need to check when Winter Soldier took place and when the start of his movie began to see if Insight took place AFTER or BEFORE his accident.
EDIT: Winter Soldier in 2014, the Dr Strange movie set in 2016?
I am sure that Zola's Algorithm was limited by whatever information was available to it about a certain subject. We can assume that any info it came across about Steven Strange showed him to be a brilliant, willful and Benevolent person. You don't become a Surgeon without a benevolent nature. I am sure there was a paper trail on Strange going back to his childhood and we do not know his entire backstory. Maybe he was involved with protests against corruption, or tyranny of some type. There was something that alerted the algorithm that he was a necessary target. It could even be as simple as charitable donations made to certain humanitarian groups.
Oh come on. The 'Winter Soldier' namecheck was just for fun. None of the creators knew the Dr Strange arc back then. It doesn't have any additional meaning.
If an MCU creative had said it then it would be retconning. But as it is, this is just fan fiction.
In 'Doctor Strange' (2016) in the car scene Strange hears about a patient that matches James Rhodes and his injury in 'Civil War'. A blogger asked Feige how much research fans should do on these references.
Feige replied, "Not much. Not much. They're just bits of fun. Just little fun things."
His answer could be a strategy to keep the expectations of the fans low. They weren't sure if Doctor Strange was going to be released because the supposed INHUMANS movie which they talked about never released....Just saying
Nearly every popular alternate universe where people don’t get their powers feature Stephen Strange, Bruce Banner, Peter Parker, Matt Murdock, and a few others always get involved anyway because it’s just part of their nature.
Interestingly, most of the time when Banner doesn’t become the Hulk he is a morally questionable character.
Not surprised since Strange used to operate upon people who had the chance to survive or make it through after the surgery and as a result operated on people least likely to die or end up deformed. Hence he had a high success rate and as a result chance to operate on highly placed individuals alongside his immense knowledge of the subject and medical prowess which would result him to be highly recommended, and hence likely to be recommended during the HYDRA attack on people. Hence, he kinda put himself up there on his list.
Who was the high school valadictorian in Iowa city, is that a reference to someone in the comics?
Ethan Edwards
or Nomad
Strange was a competent, wealthy, intellectual professional who could not be bought. Those variables alone mean you are a threat.
He might have performed surgery on Stark to remove his reactor at the end no longer needing it, making Strange a target.
Dr Strange has his accident shortly after Civil War
Strange is stronger than almost everyone. They had to nerf him a long time ago. Dude was a reality shaping sorcerer.
That makes sense. I, too, wondered that same question but never asked or sought the answer to it. Thanks.
I have been wondering about for the last million years thanks for the answer
What if Strange was there in hospital with Stark at the end of Iron Man 3 to remove the arc reactor? I assume they didn't know each other back then until Infinity War.
I don't think so. Based on how he acted, I'm not sure Stark's procedure would be "interesting" enough for Strange to do it.
Also he was a neuro-surgeon, not a heart surgeon.
@@960456 true but it still could be a possibility
Casual fans seem to miss the fact that Strange is so powerful because he has been practicing spells for a lot longer than you may think. For example he trapped Dormamu in a time loop at the end of the film for centuries with his consciousness still in tact. That paired with an eidetic memory, he could have literally practiced any spell he wanted without repercussion because he was going to die shortly after and begin the loop again and again. So by the time Endgame comes around, he is pretty damn powerful!
Just imagine how much easier of a time Tony would’ve had if strange was around to cure his poisoning
Strange is a neurosurgeon. Not a heart surgeon
Because they found out he’s one of the big three. A wizard without a hat.
Good work bro. I’ve never thought about it like that. 👊🏻
I doubt Hydra is gone. They may still be lurking in the shadows, waiting to strike again.
just my same thought are their remints of them in S.W.O.R.D, or perhaps with the multiverse about to crack open, would a varient of a hydra regime break into the main mcu time, giving bucky and sam wilson another challenge?
Antman had hydra members in the movie. It’s extremely likely
@@anthonymillanta628 agreed.
This makes a lot of sense! I really like this theory! But this also make me wonder why didn't being called in to operate Tony Stark when he needed to get that sharpnel off from his chest. Anyone knows why this is the case?
Maybe brain surgeons like Strange would want to stay in their lane, i.e. leave it to the cardiologists.
@@razordaze 😂 People forget he's a neurosurgeon don't they?
Because he's a neurosurgeon? I think that's a good enough reason
I mean… that’s what I figured all along. Strange was a hugely famous neurosurgeon long before he became a sorcerer. (Then again, maybe Hydra noted The Ancient One’s interest in Strange, as she expressed during the *Endgame* flashback…?)
It was just one of those easter eggs that seemed cute at the time, but is actually a continuity error over when Dr Strange began his mystical career. If memory serves me right they had him located at the Bleeker Street Sanctum Sanctorum which obviously wasn't his home when he was a medical doctor.
It was really just a reference to the fact that Dr. Strange and Nick Fury shared co-billing in Strange Tales.
They may have targeted strange because they fear he could undo Bucky’s brainwashing.
yes
Makes sense at the beginning of the car crash scene when he's reviewing potential patients one of them is a soldier that experienced a spinal injury in an experimental armor I'm pretty sure he was talking about war machine after the events of civil war. This would perfectly back up your theory that the government and major businesses had Doctor strange on speed dial for high value patients
It’s often believed that’s the pilot from Justin hammers prototype in iron man 2
@@kinglegoiii He would've died by then or at least have been recommended earlier. Doctor strange happened after Civil War and Iron man 2. So no it wasn't the pilot from IM2
@@g-forcemapping8454 bro no I'm pretty sure the director confirmed it Rhodey isn't 35 in civil war And experimental armor War machine isn't classified as experimental The hammer suit is
@@g-forcemapping8454 also unless if The man has Time travel it would be impossible because Doctor strange takes place before CW also the man most likely already has had surgery before the call
Do not forget the people who may have Dr Strange's phone number... As shown in the phone call that he received before the accident. I'm sure the algorithm may connect Dr Strange with high profile treats to HYDRA via his phone number
Marvel fan-theorist: strange was talented, strange had this and that…
Marvel in reality: we just want to name drop to build hype for a upcoming movie so that people will research it ahead of time.
It's simple...Hydra also dabbles in the mystical arts as well...In the comics the have mastered reincarnation and other forms of magic...ie the teseract Hydra has been around since the ancient times so it would stand to reason they would know about the ancient one..So what the algorithm did was take all known magic users with the probability to become the sorcerer Supreme it....maybe came up with like 7-8 most likely to make the cut...
Hydra knew about the infinite stones in Captain America so they would know about the Supreme and mysterious books and that how they knew Strange .
What was their plan for stopping him?
Running him off the road thinking he died and instead making him a powerfull sorcerer lol
They’re plane was to kill him along with the other hundreds of thousands of people they were going to be killed with Project Insight, where the helicarriers were used as a targeting system that would kill everyone that was targeted
No need for for future explanations, this theory is most likely to be the answer. Nailed it
There's also an obvious explanation of why Dr. Strange was targeted by hydra before he became sorcerer supreme. Ancient one is able to look into the possibilities of the future, according to endgame when smart hulk went back to 2012 where she already knew about Steven strange 4 years before the events of Dr. Strange(the movie). Hydra's a algorithm may have used the ancient one to track down people who have the possibility to become powerful.
I think he was recruited by Hydra/Shield and he most likely declined or told them to piss off. So they marked him for assassination since he's obviously not someone to comply.
There's nothing to solve. Zola was just a brilliant scientist and his algorithm worked as intended.
In Endgame when Dr. Bruce Banner is talking to the Ancient One she claims "He's supposed to be the best of us" speaking about the best sorcerer. I'm pretty sure hydra marked him for death because he was going to be such a good/the best sorcerer not because he was such a good neurosurgeon.
what if he simply is so arrogant and proud that he bows to no one? he butted heads with the likes of Ancient One even when he's on his lowest and continued to antagonize her and chase after her secret while still being a novice. imagine if Hydra tried to make him submit to their rule
Anyone else want to see Zola and Red Skull return? Also Hydra needs to return, it’s a great villainous organisation. It makes sense, he’s the best doctor, so hes a threat
That's like saying we solved while we breathe air.
His existence didnt...SITWELL with hydra 🐙
This theory is true because now looking back the movie MoM he references hydra during his first encounter with mordo and he said it in a way which was like he knew about the target list he was on.
Could it be from the experiments with the mind stone?
I like this explanation.
Background music?
Or after he was the sorcerer supreme he used the time stone and went back in time before he was the sorcerer supreme and had a run in with hydra then went back forward in time leaving them with knowledge of him