The way I see Damian being jealous of the 3 main robins. Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake is bc Bruce chose them, he saw something in them and loved them. Bruce didn't choose Damian bc of biology, Damian is jealous he has other sons he loved first before him
@@justinbradley4083tbf i think they argue in that because tim didn't get chosen, he basically forced himself into the role because batman needed a robin and damien thought he couldn't live up to that
@CrisUrbanJacquesBiology in most modern stories the two female robins are left out. Stephanie in particular usually goes straight to being the hero Spoiler where she fits the role pretty good
I’m not sure he was holding back all that much. After seeing how Damian fights Deathstroke, I’m sure it took everything Dick had to subdue the boy without injuring him.
@@royalreptile923 Well Deathstroke doesn't have his powers yet in this movie and Dick is one of the best martial artists in DC. So I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. With how Batman washed Deathstroke, Nightwing would likely beat him in _this_ movie.
The thing you really have to understand about Damian is that even though he is a child, he wasnt raised as a child and he doesnt see himself as a child. He speaks as if he always has thesaurus on hand and addresses everyone formally by their last name. He isnt like the other Robin 's for this exact reason. But to Damian family is everything, he does care it's just that he doesnt know how to show it. He's essentially a mini version of adult Bruce, but not raised by alfread, and with an Al Ghul upbringing.
This Batman and Robin relationship is great, because normally the others Robins made Batman more human, but this time, Batman has to teach Robin how to be more human.
Which is why in the comics for a while Dick Grayson was Batman and Damien Wayne was Robin so you had a happy go lucky Batman and a grim brooding Robin. Bruce Wayne was thought to be dead at the time but was actually just time travelling.
I think the biggest testament to how much I love Alfred is that seeing someone treat him like an actual butler and give him a food order actually offends me
Even though Damian Wayne isn't really my favourite Robin I do think Damian is an interesting and nuanced character. He truly is Bruce's son and shares many attributes of this his father and his mother. Damian can most definitely be a little bratty, arrogant and down right a prick but this is the son if Batman after all so you kinda have to expect that from him. This line up movies really makes Damian one of the best characters (if not the best) characters in this line up of DCAMU movies adapting the New 52 Reboot comics. Damian goes on quite a good character arc and seeing his more emotional and vulnerable side to him after restricting his feelings and losing out on a real childhood, you can understand why it takes time for him to grow
I like all the robins, myself. Yeah even that one. I like how they all have their own unique personality, something to bounce off of Bruce Nightwing MVP though. Let's get drunk and have a ton of sex, then beat people up with shock batons and POWERFUL THIGHS
I appreciate your take here, because I personally think that this version of Damian is unlikable and at worst insufferable 🤔. When first watching these films I was hoping that they would evolve Damian into a better character that we can root for to become the next Robin and I feel like we were maybe getting there until Justice League vs Teen Titans where they regressed him making the first half of that film difficult to muscle through. I haven't seen some of the last films in this continuity like Apokolips War and so maybe they've done well with him there, but as of right now I much prefer the likable versions of him we get in Batman vs Ninja Turtles and the animated Injustice. Sidenote: I know people are gonna come in with their differences by bringing up Damian's backstory but remember that that might explain his behavior but does not excuse it 🤨.
In the comics there are four main Robins; Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne, in that order. There are a few other smaller Robins like Stephanie Brown or Jarro, but they’re the main four. In this Universe, Jason and Tim don’t exist, they just went from Dick to Damian.
I love that this is an actual, canon answer. Why is architecture so weird in Gotham? Bruce Wayne made it that way on purpose so he could exploit it as Batman. He literally built the city for his benefit.
27:32 Dick is the first Robin and Bruce’s eldest son. All the other robins (depending on the timeline) are, dead (Jason Todd) moved on (Red Robin, Batgirl/Spoiler), retired etc.. Dick is always a constant. As much as Dick doesn’t want it, most of us know he would be the best choice for the next Batman.
Wasn't Daryl that blogger that sneaked onto Justice League satellite and they pretended not to see him because Martian Manhunter read his mind and did not see any malicious intent, who after skulking around blogging about their day to day he ended up saving their lives a week later by tugging on Superman´s cape and pointing out that the big bad is just a distraction and they have bomb on station that they need to deal with first?
One of the things that you guys will start to noticed is whenever Batman is with the Justice League, his suit is always black and gray but whenever he’s not with them, his suit is an almost dark grayish blue color. I was always glad that they kept that consistent with these movies. Just a little detail to remember.
Langstrom is a villain known Man-Bat. A guy who developed a serum based on the bat DNA to cure his medical condition. Instead, it turned him into a human/bat hybrid.
Full watch order of DCAMU: Justice League: Throne of Atlantis Batman vs. Robin Batman: Bad Blood Justice League vs. Teen Titans Justice League Dark Teen Titans: The Judas Contract Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay The death of Superman Constantine: City of demons Reign of the Supermen Batman: Hush Wonder Woman: Bloodlines Justice League Dark: Apokolips war Constantine: The House of Mystery Full watch order of Tomorrowverse which is continuation: Superman: Man of Tomorrow DC Showcase: Adam Strange Justice Society: World War II DC Showcase: Kamandi: The Last Boy on Earth! DC Showcase: Blue Beetle Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One Batman: The Long Halloween - Part Two Green Lantern: Beware My Power Legion of Super-Heroes Justice League: Warworld Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part One Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Two Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Three
@matheuslobos8179 Disregarding that it is actually a good movie, but hey everyone can have their own opinion, it does make a big difference in that SPOILERS SPOILERS it is the conclusion of Talias story and also shows why she isn't in the future movies. Plus it introduces Batwoman, has Alfred being bada$s, and it has some major deaths.
@matheuslobos8179 dude, did you not learn your lesson? People can like and dislike different things but they don't get to trash talk those things just because they don't appeal to your own specific tastes. And you obviously seem like the kind of person that would tell someone it's ok if THEY like a show but that they are also stupid if they like that show. So why don't you quit being a little baby and let people like what they like, ok buddy? Think about that, why don't you.
(At 14:05) originally, how he lost his right was because… not only did H.I.V.E. kidnapped his 2nd son (who we saw in the 5th season finale), but despite saving his son… one the HIVE Soldiers managed to take the boy's voice, by stabbing him in the throat. Because of THAT, his former Military Captain/Wife take it SO PERSONAL… she shot her Supersoldier Husband in the face… AT… POINT… BLANK… RANGE!
1:22 this might seem ridiculous but it’s actually pretty possible. If you have heard of the Jack Churchill or his other alias Mad Jack. He was a WW2 soldier who used a Bow and Arrows and a sword instead of the usual guns. He killed a lot of soldiers and lived till 89.
It goes Dick Grayson, Lance Bruner (temporarily), Jason Todd, Carrie Kelley (the girl from the dark knight returns), Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Damian Wayne, Helena Wayne, Duke Thomas, Matthew McGinnis, and Drake Wilston in that order
Sone clean up is needed: Carrie is from an alternate universe where Batman retired after Jason's death and thus she became the 3rd and last Robin in place of Tim Drake. Thank you for including Lance & spelling Damian right. Matt McGinnis is specifically from Batman Beyond which is likely also an alternative world. And Drake Winston is specifically and only from the '89 and echoes comic run that supposedly continues Burton's Batmans replacing anything Schumacher related but is actually based on something like a screenwriter that only worked and was friends with Burton. Burton even confirmed that these comics are not based off his original ideas. Technically speaking there's two other Robins in the forms of young Bruce Wayne, for some reason, and Bruce Wayne Jr. but both are pretty niche. The former is comics only and the latter was in both comics and the Brave/Bold cartoon admittedly briefly.
TY😢 Im depressed today and i dont have alot of friends to hangout with and talk comics to , so this geniunely made my day cant wait to see your reactions to this wonderful series of movies. Off topic if you guys could react to the Spectacular Spider-man tv series it is SO GOOD
Heck yeah thank you for getting another one out quick. I'm glad y'all looked up the universe in order in the last episode. They keep getting progressively better and go harder. Glad y'all are enjoying the DC stuff
I'm a big fan of Deathstroke, so I find it a bit disappointing that this movie series really underwhelmed the character's true potential. In the comics, the guy in a nutshell is equivalent to a Super Assassin Batman.
@@lordtoomas yeah, I know this is before he got his powers. That's my biggest issue with this. It implies that Deathstroke can't even beat a child without becoming a superhuman. Sure, Damien is nothing like an average kid, but he is still a person who isn't even puberty strong yet. Deathstroke before he got his powers in the comics was still just as skilled and arguably as strong as Batman was.
@@daenite2480 No, the boy is enhanced human while Deathstroke is a Normal human (peak) in his 50's here, still he should have won due to experience alone but hey.. look at the title 🤷♂️😅
@@sohammitra1951 Damien isn't enhanced here. And even without using Damien vs Deathstroke, this is the same movie where Nightwing handled Damien without leaving a bruise on him, and where Slade was easily dealt with by Batman. Deathstroke in this continuity is just mediocre without the supergenes. I get he's the badguy and he has to lose at the end, but I just wished they were more respectful to the character.
@@daenite2480 This was also the movie where Deathstroke got Immediately bodied by Bats in just a 4 hit combo, no gadgets or weapon needed , and yeah, the boy is definitely enhanced in this verse.
Remember in BTAS, the old west story that had Jonah Hex hunting Ra's son... who was building the cannon firing armored blimp? Yeah, he's the opening casualty in THIS story...
from red hood: the pit can ressurect the dead but it can cause problems depending on one handles it, for ras case for hundreds of years he lived this long so they aint sure whats the repurcussions on him if brought back from the dead.
Just to answer a question you guys had - yes, Damian appearing is quite a few years into Bruce’s time as Batman. Just to put it into perspective - he did this solo for a number of years. Then Dick was Robin for like 10 years. Then Jason for like 3-4 yrs (you saw him in Under the Red Hood), and then Tim Drake was Robin for like 4-5 years. Stephanie Brown briefly took up the mantle during one of his “off” periods for like 70 days before Tim Drake returned and re-took the position. Damian’s run (without getting too in to it) actually coincides with Tim’s in the beginning. I have NO idea why but Tim Drake is rarely animated/represented in movies despite having quite the unique career. Even during times when he’s actually around (canonically) he’s not included for whatever reason ie. Under the Red Hood actually occurs during his early run as Robin. Literally one of the reasons Jason is so pissed is because he felt replaced by Tim who became Robin six months after his death. I think he’s literally only been animated twice despite his character having been around since the late 80’s.)
In order it's Dick Grayson the Son who left home Jason Todd the Son with Daddy issues Tim Drake the perfect Son And Damian, the son he had no idea about. Are we clear now?
Hey boys, just wanted to give some context on the robin situation. Historically in the comics, there’s been 5 main robins. Dick grayson was first later becoming nightwing. Then Jason Todd, who was voted to get killed off by fans, later becoming RedHood. Then there’s Tim Drake, the only robin to figure out who Batman is FIRST. Known to be the worlds second greatest detective. Then there’s Damian wayne, (my fav) He’s as you learn through this movie Batman’s reluctant child, so badass. Then there’s Stephanie Brown / Carrie Kelly. They are both female robins and badass, Carrie kelly you met in the Dark Knight Returns pt 1 and pt 2. I lumped them together because they’re both pretty recent and don’t have too much content about them in comics. Hope this helped! love the reactions to this series of animated movies they’re so sick. Can’t wait to see what you guys think of Justice Leage : Apocolypse War. And if u guys want a cool stand alone movie! “Batman by gaslight” imagines batman during the times of Jack the Ripper. (They’ve also made an anime batman movie but i’ve forgotten the title but it’s cool as fuck.) Take care guys keep them coming! ❤
Pretty recent? Carrie was created before Tim lol. Aside from a handful of cameos, she doesn't exist in the main continuity. Also Robin is practically a footnote in Stephanie's history as Spoiler and Batgirl are way more important to her story
Keep in mind nightwing was fighting to disarm and keep Damien unharmed while Damien was fighting to kill. That's why nightwing was injured while Damien was fine.
If you guys continue watching this continuity, you may notice that Damien actually seems to get weaker as the story progresses. In this movie he's kicking around a guy who's four times Damien's mass like it's nothing, or matching Slade in strenght in a sword fight. In later movies, he shows less and less rediculous feats of strenght. There's a theory that Ra's or Talia was dosing Damien with some kind of steroid or Super-soldier serum.
In some versions of Deathstroke is that he was supposed to be the head of the demon after Ra’s al Gal but before Slade’s succession was complete, Ra’s discovered The dark knight: The Batman and chose him to be the demon’s head and marry his daughter.
Croc isn’t supposed to have a tail, he only has it in this movie because of the mutagen but it’s actually damaging him to take it because he’s not actually a crocodile
14:04 well that changes depending 🤷♀️ in the comics it was his wife bc something that happened with their son (dont want to spoil i guess?) if im not mistaken
There are actually FIVE canonical Robins in the main timeline: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd (who also appears in the animated films that you haven't goten to yet), Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown (aka Secret, but I don't think the films ever use her), and Damien. There's also Carrie Kelley in the Dark Knight Returns continuity, which is a separate continuity.
It amazes me that there isnt more hype for the DC animated universe - like every movie is a banger. If they put the budget and advertising into these movies that they put into the DCEU (which lets face it, haven't been as good) they would be blockbusters.
Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, and Damian Wayne are the main Robins, in that order. Dick is who you know from Teen Titans and Young Justice who becomes Nightwing, Jason was the one killed with a crowbar by The Joker and became Red Hood, Tim Drake is the most disrespected and forgotten one because the comics moved onto Damian way too quick (but he is the main one in the Arkham games, where is still kinda disrespected), Damian is the youngest. Jason was actually the first Robin viewed as a son by Batman, that precedent retroactively changed Dick from a young ward who could have been Batman's little brother age wise to his son. Damian is his only biological child in current canon. The DCAMU is based on The New 52 which despite being a reset is a little further in every main hero's story. But the other Robins don't exist in these movies.
Dick Grayson probably the one that features the most is because of legacy. the 1940's batman serials had Grayson as robin, the adam west batman had grayson, the dcau was mostly grayson and eventually had drake towards the end to bring in more kids, the teen titans, and the live action joel schumacher had grayson. talking about literally decades of live action and animation as just having Grayson as robin and is quite literally the only robin some generations know existed so they never introduce the successors in new projects to avoid confusion.
If I recall, as far as Robins go in the main continuity, Dick was first, then Jason Todd, then Tim Drake, then Damian. Though in the DCAU they seem to have jumped right from Dick to Damian.
The official and canonic Robin in order are Dick Grayson(later Nightwing), Jason Todd(later RedHood, seen in Batman under the Redhood), Tim Drake(later Red Robin) and Damian Wayne, still only Robin (offen take bad decisions). An other famous sidekick is Batgirl aka Barbara Gordon, daughter of Gordon(Batgirl, then Oracle). Dick is a founder member of the Teen Titans, the first Robin and one of the most popoular and well known characters
Just talking about the "Robin" thing: In mainline comic continuity, as well as some works based on it, Dick Grayson becomes the first Robin, grows into teenhood, then becomes Nightwing. Then comes in Jason Todd, who becomes the second Robin, dies, gets resurrected, and then becomes the Red Hood. Third is Tim Drake, who becomes Red Robin later on. Then you get to Damian, Bruce's son, who takes on the Robin mantle. There are other Robins, but they're usually in Elseworlds stories, like The Dark Knight Returns with Stephanie Brown. There have also been a few Batgirls. Besides Babara Gordon, there was one girl named Cassandra Cain, who, like Damian, was raised to be an assassin, but she jad appeared quite some time before him. What was really unique about her, though, is that, instead of being taught how to read, write, or even speak a language, she was taught the "Language of Violence", wherein she could read a person's intent through their tics and mannerisms. She had become Batgirl after her first kill, when the dying breath of her mark traumatized her, and she ran away to use her skills for good, hence why she joined up with Batman. Sorry if this was a little long, but comic lore can be fascinating sometimes.
Glad you noticed how much Batman Damian is as Robin, because there was a shift attempted in a storyline where Bruce is pressumed dead and Nightwing takes up the mantle as the new and second Batman. But as is own version with Damian as his Robin. Shifting the vibes of making Batman lighter and Robin darker. It was an interesting run for sure.
The dark Knight trilogy breaks Cannon due to the fact Bruce was trained by the League of assassins to become Batman that's not how Batman origin generally goes. Bruce disappears at a young age to return as the Batman then bruce later runs into the league of assassins and training he received is to replace Ra's al ghul as demons head.
There are a few older justice league animated movies you missed like Justice League worlds most wanted… also a bunch of Lego animated Batman/justice league animated movies as well
Guys. There were 5 canonical Robins. Dick Grayson (became Nightwing) Jason Todd (KIA) Tim Drake (became Red Robin) Stephanie Brown (Tim' ex) Damian Wayne
Bruce has like 10 plus kids. Dicks first, then Jason, but there is another before him named Cassandra or Cass. Next is Tim, Steph is an honorary member. After her is Duke and lastly is Damian. Theres a few nore kids but they're not mention much, but their names are Harper and Cullen Row. Theres Carrie Kelly but shes in a different future or timeline. Oh and Terry McGuiness. Y'all ahould definitely watch that 😊 Oh, i can't forget Barbara too.
There have been a lot of Robins, but there are a main 4 to remember in order: Dick Grayson (becomes Nightwing), Jason Todd (becomes Red Hood), Tim Drake (becomes Red Robin), and Damian Wayne (stays Robin in everything I've seen).
Man-Bat is an actual Batman villain, usually Dr. Kirk Langstrom (the scientist in charge of making it for Slade) messes up an experiment and turns himself into that. This movie is evidently set after that happened and he has cured himself. That’s why Batman instantly calls them Man-Bats, it’s not just a cheesy line
Optimistic that this means you'll potentially be following up these movies with *Batman TAS* , and then diving further into the "Timm-Verse" DCAU. Definitely worth doing!
-Dick Grayson: 1st Robin who became Nightwing -Jason Todd: 2nd Robin who was killed by the Joker, ressurected by the Legue of Assassins and became Red Hood -Tim Drake: was the 3rd Robin when Damian arrived. Damiam tried to kill him Then there's Damian
So these first two JL and Batman movies have a really wierd adaptation ethos: the batman ones loosly adapt one story with elements of others while the JL ones do adaptaions of then recent stories but do changes that would be fine on their own but when you put the JL and Batman movies together they don't line up properly even tho they're made by 90% the same people
Technically, there have been 6 robins in the animated movies and series Chronologically: 1st- Dick Grayson who later became Nightwing 2nd- Jason Todd who was killed by the Joker and then became The Red Hood. 3rd Tim Drake who in the Batman Beyond movie became the Joker because the joker implanted a device in his neck 4th- Stephanie Brown who in the comics had a relationship with Tim Drake and Batman strip her of her role as robin because she failed to follow orders in 2 separate missions. 5th- Damian Wayne who is the son of Bruce Wayne and Talia Al'Ghul. 6th- Caroline Keene "Carrie" Kelly who was the Robin for an old Batman in the graphic novel and 2 part animated movie "Batman: The Dark Knight Rises"
Dr. Langstrom is the scientist behind the Man-Bat mutation. He actually became the Man-Bat himself. Ducky from NCIS is Alfred. Deathstroke's VA was that guy from Criminal Minds. There's a hilarious Tumblr post where Batman scares the villains the most is not when he's growly and threatening, but when he uses his "disappointed dad" voice.
28:00 Robin Order: Dick Grayson First Robin also became Nightwing Jason Todd Second Robin Also became Red Hood then later reforms himself to not kill and uses crowbars Tim Drake Third Robin then became Red Robin Damien Wayne Fourth Robin at some point in a zombie apocalypse comic became Batman after Bruce died and became a zombie it's not part of the main continuity though and Damien actually dies in the main continuity comics from the Heretic a Artificially made Clone of Damien that Talia his mother made Batman later had a Face off with Darkseid in his Hell Bat Suit(basically made him as strong as Superman at the cost of his life force the Justice League even made it for him) to fight him for the Chaos Shard then he used it to bring Damian back to life PS :Their are 2 other Girl Robins the first you've seen are from Dark Knight Returns the other girl in comics was a failed Robin that Batman let down I know she exist just haven't done my research on her yet and there is another boy Matthew McGinnis from the Batman Beyond Universe Terry McGinnis the person who was given the Batman Mantel from Old Bruce his little brother later became Robin in the Beyond Comics the first four Robins are mainly the main continuity used these other ones are different universe's from comics and shows
One thing one never does is try to being back a soul after death with the pit. Because it damages it, never brings it back whole. So if you ever see any dc character brought back by the pit, expect... Changes...
The way I see Damian being jealous of the 3 main robins. Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake is bc Bruce chose them, he saw something in them and loved them. Bruce didn't choose Damian bc of biology, Damian is jealous he has other sons he loved first before him
That was 2 chapters in the webtoon where Damien and Tim are fighting about this exact thing
In general Damian had it really rough, so of course he would want the full attention of his father instead of having to share it
@@justinbradley4083tbf i think they argue in that because tim didn't get chosen, he basically forced himself into the role because batman needed a robin and damien thought he couldn't live up to that
I think the robins in order are Dick, Jason, Tim, Steph….demian and carry. Idk if cass can be included on that list
@CrisUrbanJacquesBiology in most modern stories the two female robins are left out. Stephanie in particular usually goes straight to being the hero Spoiler where she fits the role pretty good
21:29 notice how Damian isn’t even bruised… nightwing is like that because he was holding back
That's Nightwing for you. Always a good guy.
I’m not sure he was holding back all that much. After seeing how Damian fights Deathstroke, I’m sure it took everything Dick had to subdue the boy without injuring him.
@@royalreptile923 yup, holding back isn't the right way to frame it. More like it took everything Nightwing had to subdue Damian without hurting him
@@royalreptile923 Well Deathstroke doesn't have his powers yet in this movie and Dick is one of the best martial artists in DC. So I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. With how Batman washed Deathstroke, Nightwing would likely beat him in _this_ movie.
@@royalreptile923dick always holding back hes like superman a goodman.
The thing you really have to understand about Damian is that even though he is a child, he wasnt raised as a child and he doesnt see himself as a child. He speaks as if he always has thesaurus on hand and addresses everyone formally by their last name. He isnt like the other Robin 's for this exact reason. But to Damian family is everything, he does care it's just that he doesnt know how to show it. He's essentially a mini version of adult Bruce, but not raised by alfread, and with an Al Ghul upbringing.
So, Artemis Fowl if seriously trained by Butler?
@@Eques_Umbrabasically and love your comparison as well.
@@Eques_Umbra love this lol
@@Eques_Umbra A little late, but Artemis Fowl is goated
It is wild that Batman essentially got roofied.
It's extra wild that this only happened because Grant Morrison misremembered how the Son of the Bat comic went and through it was non consensual
She jacked his Baby Gravey
Yeah Batman is canonically a grape victim.
The complete and total character assassination of Talia Al Ghul, good stuff 👍
Guess it's one thing that Batman didn't have a contingency plan for.
Although for real, I'm expecting him to toss her into Arkham Asylum.
This Batman and Robin relationship is great, because normally the others Robins made Batman more human, but this time, Batman has to teach Robin how to be more human.
Which is why in the comics for a while Dick Grayson was Batman and Damien Wayne was Robin so you had a happy go lucky Batman and a grim brooding Robin. Bruce Wayne was thought to be dead at the time but was actually just time travelling.
@@spikejr3113jr spoilers
There js also a movie about that.🤓
@@robinkuiperij3089there’s also one where Superman is Batman 🤓
@@wolfslayz167 I think that's a different universe right?🤔
@@robinkuiperij3089 ya but the comics actually did it right and the movie did it in a completely different way.
I think the biggest testament to how much I love Alfred is that seeing someone treat him like an actual butler and give him a food order actually offends me
@@ML1399TheyStoleMyName A butler being treated like a butler offends you?
Like...seriously?
@@jamess359Don't destroy his view of the world
@@jamess359 Hello, welcome to the whole point of that comment. We've been expecting you
@@ML1399TheyStoleMyName No, you haven't.
@@jamess359 Is there a school where you learn to be stupid or were you born like this?
22:10 ppl are already saying it but the fact that Nightwing won and tied him up without making him a single scratch its wildly impressive
"He does have that Bruce Wayne look to him tho" oh i cannot WAIT for yall to get to Teen Titans vs Justice League😅
Nah Batman vs Robin shows the similarities of them at the same age best, you know the scene
Even though Damian Wayne isn't really my favourite Robin I do think Damian is an interesting and nuanced character. He truly is Bruce's son and shares many attributes of this his father and his mother. Damian can most definitely be a little bratty, arrogant and down right a prick but this is the son if Batman after all so you kinda have to expect that from him. This line up movies really makes Damian one of the best characters (if not the best) characters in this line up of DCAMU movies adapting the New 52 Reboot comics. Damian goes on quite a good character arc and seeing his more emotional and vulnerable side to him after restricting his feelings and losing out on a real childhood, you can understand why it takes time for him to grow
I like all the robins, myself. Yeah even that one. I like how they all have their own unique personality, something to bounce off of Bruce
Nightwing MVP though. Let's get drunk and have a ton of sex, then beat people up with shock batons and POWERFUL THIGHS
I appreciate your take here, because I personally think that this version of Damian is unlikable and at worst insufferable 🤔.
When first watching these films I was hoping that they would evolve Damian into a better character that we can root for to become the next Robin and I feel like we were maybe getting there until Justice League vs Teen Titans where they regressed him making the first half of that film difficult to muscle through.
I haven't seen some of the last films in this continuity like Apokolips War and so maybe they've done well with him there, but as of right now I much prefer the likable versions of him we get in Batman vs Ninja Turtles and the animated Injustice.
Sidenote: I know people are gonna come in with their differences by bringing up Damian's backstory but remember that that might explain his behavior but does not excuse it 🤨.
@@CLDJ227 they def did him justice in apokolips war
@@goodvibes7913 Good to know 🤔.
In the comics there are four main Robins; Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne, in that order. There are a few other smaller Robins like Stephanie Brown or Jarro, but they’re the main four. In this Universe, Jason and Tim don’t exist, they just went from Dick to Damian.
Jarro is not a small Robin in my heart
If I remember about the vent thing, Bruce Pays construction to build vents that big in gotham.
IQ level 100, right there
I love that this is an actual, canon answer. Why is architecture so weird in Gotham? Bruce Wayne made it that way on purpose so he could exploit it as Batman. He literally built the city for his benefit.
@@Celestia282 He didn't "literally" build the city.
He "literally" planned the city to be built for his benefit.
@@jamess359semantics
“It’s the green eyes.”
“Yeah.” Moments later.. “Wait they were green?”
27:32
Dick is the first Robin and Bruce’s eldest son. All the other robins (depending on the timeline) are, dead (Jason Todd) moved on (Red Robin, Batgirl/Spoiler), retired etc.. Dick is always a constant. As much as Dick doesn’t want it, most of us know he would be the best choice for the next Batman.
Or Terry. I actually liked him as a successor.
@@Alphasnowbordergirl i love McGinnis but idk if he is apart of most timeline :
The irony. We get Daffy Duck on the TV and Alfred was voiced by the actor who played 'Ducky' on N.C.I.S. Rest in peace, dear David...
"Ah, yes. Daryl. The forgotten Robin. He only lasted one night.... We don't talk about Daryl."
Wasn't Daryl that blogger that sneaked onto Justice League satellite and they pretended not to see him because Martian Manhunter read his mind and did not see any malicious intent, who after skulking around blogging about their day to day he ended up saving their lives a week later by tugging on Superman´s cape and pointing out that the big bad is just a distraction and they have bomb on station that they need to deal with first?
One of the things that you guys will start to noticed is whenever Batman is with the Justice League, his suit is always black and gray but whenever he’s not with them, his suit is an almost dark grayish blue color. I was always glad that they kept that consistent with these movies.
Just a little detail to remember.
Langstrom is a villain known Man-Bat. A guy who developed a serum based on the bat DNA to cure his medical condition.
Instead, it turned him into a human/bat hybrid.
That’s why I recognized his name!
So he is like Morbius
@@antispiral1159 Morbius is like Man-Bat.
I think wayne enterprise just has a construction division that rebuilds and renovates the city. And bruce INSISTS all vents are "batman sized"
Full watch order of DCAMU:
Justice League: Throne of Atlantis
Batman vs. Robin
Batman: Bad Blood
Justice League vs. Teen Titans
Justice League Dark
Teen Titans: The Judas Contract
Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay
The death of Superman
Constantine: City of demons
Reign of the Supermen
Batman: Hush
Wonder Woman: Bloodlines
Justice League Dark: Apokolips war
Constantine: The House of Mystery
Full watch order of Tomorrowverse which is continuation:
Superman: Man of Tomorrow
DC Showcase: Adam Strange
Justice Society: World War II
DC Showcase: Kamandi: The Last Boy on Earth!
DC Showcase: Blue Beetle
Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One
Batman: The Long Halloween - Part Two
Green Lantern: Beware My Power
Legion of Super-Heroes
Justice League: Warworld
Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part One
Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Two
Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Three
i dont think that is the right order....
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Disregarding that it is actually a good movie, but hey everyone can have their own opinion, it does make a big difference in that SPOILERS
SPOILERS
it is the conclusion of Talias story and also shows why she isn't in the future movies. Plus it introduces Batwoman, has Alfred being bada$s, and it has some major deaths.
@matheuslobos8179 dude, did you not learn your lesson? People can like and dislike different things but they don't get to trash talk those things just because they don't appeal to your own specific tastes. And you obviously seem like the kind of person that would tell someone it's ok if THEY like a show but that they are also stupid if they like that show. So why don't you quit being a little baby and let people like what they like, ok buddy? Think about that, why don't you.
Nightwing fought Damian barehand and still won without hurt Damian.
I think now that they have the DCAMU collection they're committed to watch it all ASAP.
Yeah, considering Damian was trying to kill him the whole fight and Dick tried his best not to scratch the kid. Dick is best nanny.
Someone let them know don't miss the end credit scenes after each movie
Well I’m guessing since Patreon
people get it way early hopefully they commented about that.
They're abt 5 movies ahead on Patreon and don't worry, they check every time👉
(At 14:05) originally, how he lost his right was because… not only did H.I.V.E. kidnapped his 2nd son (who we saw in the 5th season finale), but despite saving his son… one the HIVE Soldiers managed to take the boy's voice, by stabbing him in the throat. Because of THAT, his former Military Captain/Wife take it SO PERSONAL… she shot her Supersoldier Husband in the face… AT… POINT… BLANK… RANGE!
1:22 this might seem ridiculous but it’s actually pretty possible. If you have heard of the Jack Churchill or his other alias Mad Jack. He was a WW2 soldier who used a Bow and Arrows and a sword instead of the usual guns. He killed a lot of soldiers and lived till 89.
Already?! we just had Justice League War, this channel is amazing
Agreed
It goes Dick Grayson, Lance Bruner (temporarily), Jason Todd, Carrie Kelley (the girl from the dark knight returns), Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Damian Wayne,
Helena Wayne, Duke Thomas, Matthew McGinnis, and Drake Wilston in that order
Sone clean up is needed:
Carrie is from an alternate universe where Batman retired after Jason's death and thus she became the 3rd and last Robin in place of Tim Drake.
Thank you for including Lance & spelling Damian right.
Matt McGinnis is specifically from Batman Beyond which is likely also an alternative world.
And Drake Winston is specifically and only from the '89 and echoes comic run that supposedly continues Burton's Batmans replacing anything Schumacher related but is actually based on something like a screenwriter that only worked and was friends with Burton. Burton even confirmed that these comics are not based off his original ideas.
Technically speaking there's two other Robins in the forms of young Bruce Wayne, for some reason, and Bruce Wayne Jr. but both are pretty niche. The former is comics only and the latter was in both comics and the Brave/Bold cartoon admittedly briefly.
TY😢 Im depressed today and i dont have alot of friends to hangout with and talk comics to , so this geniunely made my day cant wait to see your reactions to this wonderful series of movies.
Off topic if you guys could react to the Spectacular Spider-man tv series it is SO GOOD
Hey there, have a virtual hug from a fellow DC nerd. You're never alone in the fandom!
Hey, have a snack on me and know you are never alone when it comes to the world of comics.
Heck yeah thank you for getting another one out quick. I'm glad y'all looked up the universe in order in the last episode. They keep getting progressively better and go harder. Glad y'all are enjoying the DC stuff
25:13 It's even better knowing he's scared of bats
I'm a big fan of Deathstroke, so I find it a bit disappointing that this movie series really underwhelmed the character's true potential.
In the comics, the guy in a nutshell is equivalent to a Super Assassin Batman.
This is before he got his powers, I haven't seen Judas Contract, but he's apparently really important in that
@@lordtoomas yeah, I know this is before he got his powers. That's my biggest issue with this.
It implies that Deathstroke can't even beat a child without becoming a superhuman. Sure, Damien is nothing like an average kid, but he is still a person who isn't even puberty strong yet. Deathstroke before he got his powers in the comics was still just as skilled and arguably as strong as Batman was.
@@daenite2480 No, the boy is enhanced human while Deathstroke is a Normal human (peak) in his 50's here, still he should have won due to experience alone but hey.. look at the title 🤷♂️😅
@@sohammitra1951 Damien isn't enhanced here.
And even without using Damien vs Deathstroke, this is the same movie where Nightwing handled Damien without leaving a bruise on him, and where Slade was easily dealt with by Batman.
Deathstroke in this continuity is just mediocre without the supergenes.
I get he's the badguy and he has to lose at the end, but I just wished they were more respectful to the character.
@@daenite2480 This was also the movie where Deathstroke got Immediately bodied by Bats in just a 4 hit combo, no gadgets or weapon needed , and yeah, the boy is definitely enhanced in this verse.
Remember in BTAS, the old west story that had Jonah Hex hunting Ra's son... who was building the cannon firing armored blimp? Yeah, he's the opening casualty in THIS story...
35:12 Slade sure loves fighting Robins
from red hood: the pit can ressurect the dead but it can cause problems depending on one handles it, for ras case for hundreds of years he lived this long so they aint sure whats the repurcussions on him if brought back from the dead.
16:00 Just give him a petting zoo and he'll do the character arc on his own
12:21 Alfred's like, I'm older than your grandpa- show some respect
Just to answer a question you guys had - yes, Damian appearing is quite a few years into Bruce’s time as Batman. Just to put it into perspective - he did this solo for a number of years. Then Dick was Robin for like 10 years. Then Jason for like 3-4 yrs (you saw him in Under the Red Hood), and then Tim Drake was Robin for like 4-5 years. Stephanie Brown briefly took up the mantle during one of his “off” periods for like 70 days before Tim Drake returned and re-took the position.
Damian’s run (without getting too in to it) actually coincides with Tim’s in the beginning. I have NO idea why but Tim Drake is rarely animated/represented in movies despite having quite the unique career. Even during times when he’s actually around (canonically) he’s not included for whatever reason ie. Under the Red Hood actually occurs during his early run as Robin. Literally one of the reasons Jason is so pissed is because he felt replaced by Tim who became Robin six months after his death. I think he’s literally only been animated twice despite his character having been around since the late 80’s.)
In order it's
Dick Grayson the Son who left home
Jason Todd the Son with Daddy issues
Tim Drake the perfect Son
And Damian, the son he had no idea about.
Are we clear now?
No, lol. Dick, Jason, Tim, Stephanie (Spoiler, Robin, Batgirl, Spoiler), Damian
I love Steph but she was Robin for like what? 3 issues?
She is much more established as Batgirl.@@brandonphoummany9668
And Stephanie Brown along with Carrie Kelley (though she's only from the Dark Knight Returns)
@@brandonphoummany9668yes I know of Clue Master's Daughter to you ass hat, they are the standard 4.
There's also Cassandra Cain, although she was never Robin, only Batgirl.
Hey boys, just wanted to give some context on the robin situation. Historically in the comics, there’s been 5 main robins. Dick grayson was first later becoming nightwing. Then Jason Todd, who was voted to get killed off by fans, later becoming RedHood. Then there’s Tim Drake, the only robin to figure out who Batman is FIRST. Known to be the worlds second greatest detective. Then there’s Damian wayne, (my fav) He’s as you learn through this movie Batman’s reluctant child, so badass. Then there’s Stephanie Brown / Carrie Kelly. They are both female robins and badass, Carrie kelly you met in the Dark Knight Returns pt 1 and pt 2. I lumped them together because they’re both pretty recent and don’t have too much content about them in comics. Hope this helped! love the reactions to this series of animated movies they’re so sick. Can’t wait to see what you guys think of Justice Leage : Apocolypse War. And if u guys want a cool stand alone movie! “Batman by gaslight” imagines batman during the times of Jack the Ripper. (They’ve also made an anime batman movie but i’ve forgotten the title but it’s cool as fuck.) Take care guys keep them coming! ❤
Pretty recent? Carrie was created before Tim lol. Aside from a handful of cameos, she doesn't exist in the main continuity. Also Robin is practically a footnote in Stephanie's history as Spoiler and Batgirl are way more important to her story
Keep in mind nightwing was fighting to disarm and keep Damien unharmed while Damien was fighting to kill. That's why nightwing was injured while Damien was fine.
If you guys continue watching this continuity, you may notice that Damien actually seems to get weaker as the story progresses. In this movie he's kicking around a guy who's four times Damien's mass like it's nothing, or matching Slade in strenght in a sword fight. In later movies, he shows less and less rediculous feats of strenght. There's a theory that Ra's or Talia was dosing Damien with some kind of steroid or Super-soldier serum.
Love this channel , you gentlemen spoil us , loving y’all’s journey in the DC animated world
In some versions of Deathstroke is that he was supposed to be the head of the demon after Ra’s al Gal but before Slade’s succession was complete, Ra’s discovered The dark knight: The Batman and chose him to be the demon’s head and marry his daughter.
Croc isn’t supposed to have a tail, he only has it in this movie because of the mutagen but it’s actually damaging him to take it because he’s not actually a crocodile
14:04 well that changes depending 🤷♀️ in the comics it was his wife bc something that happened with their son (dont want to spoil i guess?) if im not mistaken
Slade is voiced by Thomas Gibson. He played Hotch on Criminal Minds
You guys GOTTA react to “Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm” and “Hulk Vs. Wolverine”
I absolutely love u guys! You guys should be at over 1 million subs easily
The Robins are (in order); Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian.
Then theres also been Stephanie and That mini-starro one.
All the main Robins in chronological order Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne.
31:00 Dick Grayson is obviously his favourite, their relationship and interactions are great
There are actually FIVE canonical Robins in the main timeline: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd (who also appears in the animated films that you haven't goten to yet), Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown (aka Secret, but I don't think the films ever use her), and Damien. There's also Carrie Kelley in the Dark Knight Returns continuity, which is a separate continuity.
Stephanie is Spoiler, Greta Hayes is secret
Funny you mention Jensen Ackles cause he voices Batman in the Tomorrowverse movies
Not usually what “S.O.B.” stands for.
It amazes me that there isnt more hype for the DC animated universe - like every movie is a banger.
If they put the budget and advertising into these movies that they put into the DCEU (which lets face it, haven't been as good) they would be blockbusters.
So if memory serves, Langstrom was working on mutagens, and he tested in himself and became the original man-bat
Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, and Damian Wayne are the main Robins, in that order. Dick is who you know from Teen Titans and Young Justice who becomes Nightwing, Jason was the one killed with a crowbar by The Joker and became Red Hood, Tim Drake is the most disrespected and forgotten one because the comics moved onto Damian way too quick (but he is the main one in the Arkham games, where is still kinda disrespected), Damian is the youngest.
Jason was actually the first Robin viewed as a son by Batman, that precedent retroactively changed Dick from a young ward who could have been Batman's little brother age wise to his son. Damian is his only biological child in current canon.
The DCAMU is based on The New 52 which despite being a reset is a little further in every main hero's story. But the other Robins don't exist in these movies.
Dick Grayson probably the one that features the most is because of legacy. the 1940's batman serials had Grayson as robin, the adam west batman had grayson, the dcau was mostly grayson and eventually had drake towards the end to bring in more kids, the teen titans, and the live action joel schumacher had grayson. talking about literally decades of live action and animation as just having Grayson as robin and is quite literally the only robin some generations know existed so they never introduce the successors in new projects to avoid confusion.
If I recall, as far as Robins go in the main continuity, Dick was first, then Jason Todd, then Tim Drake, then Damian. Though in the DCAU they seem to have jumped right from Dick to Damian.
You forgot Stephanie
You guys are so underrated, i love having your dcamu videos on in the bg when i draw ive been bingeing all of them lol
Damian is one of my favorite parts of this entire universe of movies, he grows a lot with each appearance he makes
It's so weird hearing Hotch play the villain role
25:36 Superman has left the chat
The official and canonic Robin in order are Dick Grayson(later Nightwing), Jason Todd(later RedHood, seen in Batman under the Redhood), Tim Drake(later Red Robin) and Damian Wayne, still only Robin (offen take bad decisions). An other famous sidekick is Batgirl aka Barbara Gordon, daughter of Gordon(Batgirl, then Oracle). Dick is a founder member of the Teen Titans, the first Robin and one of the most popoular and well known characters
You forgot stephanie brown.
24:42 when my homies peeing at the urinal beside me
Just talking about the "Robin" thing:
In mainline comic continuity, as well as some works based on it, Dick Grayson becomes the first Robin, grows into teenhood, then becomes Nightwing. Then comes in Jason Todd, who becomes the second Robin, dies, gets resurrected, and then becomes the Red Hood. Third is Tim Drake, who becomes Red Robin later on. Then you get to Damian, Bruce's son, who takes on the Robin mantle.
There are other Robins, but they're usually in Elseworlds stories, like The Dark Knight Returns with Stephanie Brown.
There have also been a few Batgirls. Besides Babara Gordon, there was one girl named Cassandra Cain, who, like Damian, was raised to be an assassin, but she jad appeared quite some time before him. What was really unique about her, though, is that, instead of being taught how to read, write, or even speak a language, she was taught the "Language of Violence", wherein she could read a person's intent through their tics and mannerisms. She had become Batgirl after her first kill, when the dying breath of her mark traumatized her, and she ran away to use her skills for good, hence why she joined up with Batman.
Sorry if this was a little long, but comic lore can be fascinating sometimes.
Dick Grayson (nightwing) is essentially the teen titans' robin when he was younger
Y'all are not wasting anytime with the DCAMU and I am here for it
28:09 There actually is one named Duke 😂 (he's Signal, not Robin tho)
Glad you noticed how much Batman Damian is as Robin, because there was a shift attempted in a storyline where Bruce is pressumed dead and Nightwing takes up the mantle as the new and second Batman. But as is own version with Damian as his Robin. Shifting the vibes of making Batman lighter and Robin darker. It was an interesting run for sure.
Never did I notice the Alfred is voiced by ducky from ncis 14:44
The dark Knight trilogy breaks Cannon due to the fact Bruce was trained by the League of assassins to become Batman that's not how Batman origin generally goes. Bruce disappears at a young age to return as the Batman then bruce later runs into the league of assassins and training he received is to replace Ra's al ghul as demons head.
There are a few older justice league animated movies you missed like Justice League worlds most wanted… also a bunch of Lego animated Batman/justice league animated movies as well
Ra's al Ghu-rill is an underrated comment. It got zero laughs from the boys but had me crying.
Guys. There were 5 canonical Robins.
Dick Grayson (became Nightwing)
Jason Todd (KIA)
Tim Drake (became Red Robin)
Stephanie Brown (Tim' ex)
Damian Wayne
Bruce has like 10 plus kids. Dicks first, then Jason, but there is another before him named Cassandra or Cass. Next is Tim, Steph is an honorary member. After her is Duke and lastly is Damian. Theres a few nore kids but they're not mention much, but their names are Harper and Cullen Row. Theres Carrie Kelly but shes in a different future or timeline. Oh and Terry McGuiness. Y'all ahould definitely watch that 😊
Oh, i can't forget Barbara too.
There have been a lot of Robins, but there are a main 4 to remember in order: Dick Grayson (becomes Nightwing), Jason Todd (becomes Red Hood), Tim Drake (becomes Red Robin), and Damian Wayne (stays Robin in everything I've seen).
Man-Bat is an actual Batman villain, usually Dr. Kirk Langstrom (the scientist in charge of making it for Slade) messes up an experiment and turns himself into that. This movie is evidently set after that happened and he has cured himself. That’s why Batman instantly calls them Man-Bats, it’s not just a cheesy line
Poor Tim. He was the first Robin to get a solo book but almost every adaptation ignores him
Optimistic that this means you'll potentially be following up these movies with *Batman TAS* , and then diving further into the "Timm-Verse" DCAU. Definitely worth doing!
29:52 Jason Todd's last words
-Dick Grayson: 1st Robin who became Nightwing
-Jason Todd: 2nd Robin who was killed by the Joker, ressurected by the Legue of Assassins and became Red Hood
-Tim Drake: was the 3rd Robin when Damian arrived. Damiam tried to kill him
Then there's Damian
I am not kidding, I was actually wanting a reaction to the Batman animated movies and you guys are my favourite, so when I saw this I was very happy.
You guys saying that all you've watched so far are bangers but DC animated universe are top tier superhero content ever made imo
So these first two JL and Batman movies have a really wierd adaptation ethos: the batman ones loosly adapt one story with elements of others while the JL ones do adaptaions of then recent stories but do changes that would be fine on their own but when you put the JL and Batman movies together they don't line up properly even tho they're made by 90% the same people
Technically, there have been 6 robins in the animated movies and series
Chronologically:
1st- Dick Grayson who later became Nightwing
2nd- Jason Todd who was killed by the Joker and then became The Red Hood.
3rd Tim Drake who in the Batman Beyond movie became the Joker because the joker implanted a device in his neck
4th- Stephanie Brown who in the comics had a relationship with Tim Drake and Batman strip her of her role as robin because she failed to follow orders in 2 separate missions.
5th- Damian Wayne who is the son of Bruce Wayne and Talia Al'Ghul.
6th- Caroline Keene "Carrie" Kelly who was the Robin for an old Batman in the graphic novel and 2 part animated movie "Batman: The Dark Knight Rises"
Back to back DCAU love to see it! 💜
YESS! DAMIAN HAS ARRIVED!
Dr. Langstrom is the scientist behind the Man-Bat mutation. He actually became the Man-Bat himself. Ducky from NCIS is Alfred. Deathstroke's VA was that guy from Criminal Minds.
There's a hilarious Tumblr post where Batman scares the villains the most is not when he's growly and threatening, but when he uses his "disappointed dad" voice.
When Deathstoke captured Talia, I thought he and his men were going down town with her.
28:00 Robin Order:
Dick Grayson First Robin also became Nightwing
Jason Todd Second Robin Also became Red Hood then later reforms himself to not kill and uses crowbars
Tim Drake Third Robin then became Red Robin
Damien Wayne Fourth Robin at some point in a zombie apocalypse comic became Batman after Bruce died and became a zombie it's not part of the main continuity though and Damien actually dies in the main continuity comics from the Heretic a Artificially made Clone of Damien that Talia his mother made Batman later had a Face off with Darkseid in his Hell Bat Suit(basically made him as strong as Superman at the cost of his life force the Justice League even made it for him) to fight him for the Chaos Shard then he used it to bring Damian back to life
PS :Their are 2 other Girl Robins the first you've seen are from Dark Knight Returns the other girl in comics was a failed Robin that Batman let down I know she exist just haven't done my research on her yet and there is another boy Matthew McGinnis from the Batman Beyond Universe Terry McGinnis the person who was given the Batman Mantel from Old Bruce his little brother later became Robin in the Beyond Comics the first four Robins are mainly the main continuity used these other ones are different universe's from comics and shows
It would be good for them to react Batman Mask of the Phantasm and Justice League the final frontier.
YES. TO BOTH
0:11 , Yeah they do
My favorite Alfred is sarcastic Alfred 😂😂😂😂
6:31 So was Jason Todd
Robin- Dick, Jason, Tim, Stephanie (Spoiler, Robin, Batgirl, Spoiler), Damian.
No matter the movie or version he is, Alfred is always a gigachad.
One thing one never does is try to being back a soul after death with the pit. Because it damages it, never brings it back whole. So if you ever see any dc character brought back by the pit, expect... Changes...
The Robin you're forgetting is Jason Todd. He was the one that Joker killed and he came back as Red Hood
I am loving how quickly we are getting these movies so good
Damian is such a little shit, I love him.
There is a movie that includes Damian as a teenager, who dates a very special character, wont spoil it, its one of the newer Justice league movies