In the comics, a lot of Aquamans villains are Atlanteans who think Aquaman is too passive of a king, in this world, all of Aquaman's villains are his lieutenants.
Usually, Captain Marvel is just one kid. But in Flashpoint Universe, his name is Captain Thunder and he is the result of the kids combining into one being.
I always thought the name is a copyright thing. MCUs version. Shazam is usually one kid but there is a Shazam family. Shazam shares his powers with a family
@@jonreese7066 Kind of. I think DC lost the rights to the name “Captain Marvel” at some point. But this means that they simply cannot advertise the guy as such. So, for example, no movies or comic books with “Captain Marvel” in the title. However, he can still be referred to as Captain Marvel in the comics or movies themselves. In the latest comics, he switched to being called “Captain”.
@@extranerdinarytroper4835 Dc still have the rights to use the name “Captain Marvel” they’re just not allowed to use it on the cover of a comic book. That’s why his comic is often called “Shazam” or “power of Shazam” following the new 52 2011 reboot they decided to simplify it by renaming Captain marvel Shazam, but legally they still can use the name. They have done occasionally when they bring back the pre new 52 version of the character
These animated movies are literally some of the most underrated superhero content. Isn't it just delicious hollywood irony, when the competent and mature version of a film, is the one from a medium seen as "childish" in the same industry?
Honestly the general consensus on DC is that the animated movies are fantastic and the live action ones (in general) are subpar at best. I’m not even sure how that can be. I know you can do some things in animation better than live action, but I feel like the difference in story and quality can’t be this bad.
Because they actually take comics seriously whereas Hollywood sees any form of media not either another show/movie or a book as inherently childish. Even when TLOU got an adaptation that blew everyone's minds the media were still acting like the game was a childish IP and Hollywood "turned" it dark and serious, when the game is still the better version of the story.
The animation director wants to adapt the story from the comic to the screen but Hollywood directors have an ego and want to "leave their mark" on the story and characters without realising that people want the comic story and they aren't as good as they like to think they are. Add to that execs and test audiences who might not be the proper target for the movie.
Here’s the contents of the letter. “Dear son, There’s only one thing I know about life. I know some things happen by chance. And some things happen because we make them happen. Barry Allen was once haunted by the past. But when he became the Flash, he left the ghosts behind. He found love, a family. And for the first time ever…friends. Barry thought yesterday was behind him…but somebody wouldn’t let him escape it. When Barry came to me for help, I turned him away. I’m not the hero of this story. I’m a man who’s been corrupted by his own unbearable pain. I’m a man who has too much blood on his hands to be called good. Your friend taught me we can’t only live a life for those we’ve lost. We have to live a life for those we still have. If I got a second chance, I would hope I’d come to understand that. To live that…like you should, Bruce. That’s all parents want for their children. What we never had. Your mother and I want you to be happy. Promise me you’ll try. And I will too…wherever I am. Love always, your father - Thomas Wayne.”
Knowing this kinda screwed the scene for me. 90% of the letter is talking about Barry, imagine getting a letter from your dead father, and its basically him dickriding your friend lol I prefer to think this isnt canon and the letter isnt "hey bruce, your friend Barry is awesome, be like him ok?"
The fun thing about the Rogues that’s the villain group that involves Captain Cold. Led by Captain Cold, the Rogues have a strict moral code which members are expected to follow: No Rogue may inherit another Rogue's identity while the original still lives. No members can do drugs, and No killing "speedsters", "capes" or women and children. The new killing supers is because if they did they would be in so much more trouble than they are. They mostly stick to theft and burglary.
For real tho. There's a story where The Rogue get tricked into killing the newest Flash, Bart Allen, Barry's grandson from the future; by Inertia who is basically Bart's Reverse Flash. Wally West, who was The Flash before Bart and had been stuck in The Speedforce, returned as Bart died and froze Inertia then put him on display in The Flash Museum. When Inertia got free later on, The Rogues killed him then dropped the body off at the cops with a message: "Tell The Flash we're even - The Rogues"
you forgot "no Killing Cop's" as well. and if i remember there was a flash or was it a JL comic story in where a new member of the rogues killed a cop on one of their heist's and the guy acted all smug about it and tried to brush it off like it was not a big deal and even act tough in front of capt. cold. let's just say that upstart member got literally kicked out of the group.
Time travel in DC can lead to the most insane things. Flash is easily one of the most OP heroes if the writers don't fuck with him. Reverse Flash is a unique flavor of petty man will do anything to mess with Flash
Thawn is one of the pettiest supervillains in history. The things he's done not only to try and kill Barry but just make his life miserable are insane.
Like, the more you learn about him the more the "it was me Barry, I jerked you off at super speed so it looked like you went off at the slightest touch" joke monologue someone came up with totally feels like a plausible thing he'd do.
Wonder is from Greek mythology...shes a Amazon but she's also Zeus's daughter so she could easily just be like "uncle Hades let me borrow the Cerberus" or "dad can i have some minotaur" or just get them herself
There are two aqualads. The original is Garth (the one from the teen titans show basically) and the other Kaldur (gets way more focus in the young justice show where he's the first aqualad).
I like how they are calling these dc movies violent with all the death and blood but Im just waiting until they watch justice league dark: Apocalypse war
The whole "Barry's mom was killed and dad was blamed" thing was an invention pretty much made for the comic Flashpoint paradox story. Up until then his parents were alive well into his adulthood, there was even a story where the spirit of one of his dead villains possessed his dad.
Yeah that always bugged me. Apparently Thawne is allowed to change the timeline to kill Barry’s mom but Barry and no one else is allowed to correct it. By the time travel rules in Flash, the timeline post Nora’s murder is an aberration and ‘wrong’, correcting it should’ve been the goal. But DC has to have tragic backstories…
@@Fordo007 Like Thawne said Barry is an amateur. When Thawne got his powers he constantly changed his own timeline before going back to meet Barry, he has a lot more experience.
@@Fordo007 Well, Flashpoint was supposed to just be like an Elseworld story (a one off). But some higher up at DC wanted to use the story to shape the whole continuity.
Flash is indeed the glue that holds the League together. He's the nicest hero, the nicest person out there. Every single time Flash dies, every single time the timeline goes to shit.
Wasn't there a Justice Legaue animated episode/movie about that too? An evil JL from a different universe shows up and the only thing different was that their Flash was dead.
Btw, if you do want to see vampire Batman, there's a one-off dc animated movie called Justice League: Gods and Monsters. It's a different alternate timeline story completely unrelated to the others.
Also- BOTH of those young men were Aqualad. The one with black hair was Garth AKA Tempest- the original Aqualad and Arthur’s adoptive son. The black guy was Jackson Hyde/Kaldur’Ahm. He’s the second Aqualad and the son of Black Manta, Aquaman’s biggest opp. Kaldur is a main character in Young Justice, Garth is the Aqualad we saw in Teen Titans.
I understood that reference. That episode in Family Guy that supposedly explained why Tom Cruise is always running in most of films since that’s his trademark. 😂
The fact that Barry's suit is slightly different after he saves the timeline is an excellent way of showing that things aren't technically the same as they were. In the New 52, some heroes are even stronger or weaker than their old multiverse counterparts, or their powers work differently altogether. It shows that once you've changed the past, it'll never be the exact same, even if you undo the change you caused perfectly.
I am aware of whats in that collection box you have but, hope you guys are made aware that this movie is the first of the DCAMU and not part of the DCAM. Here is the list watch order of its continuity. Flashpoint paradox, justice league war,son of batman,Batman vs robin,throne of Atlantis,nightwing and robin short,batman vs Robin, batman badblood, JL vs Teen titans, suicide squad hell to pay,JL Dark, TT judas contract, death of superman, reign of superman, Constantine city of demons, batman hush, WW bloodlines, JL Dark apokolips war, Constantine house of mystery(movie release date is newer due to the Constantine short but all the other shorts came out as extra for the other movies so is in correct order), superman man of tomorrow, batman long Halloween, justice society ww2, green lantern beware my power, legion of super heroes, JL war world, JL crisis on infinite earth's part1-2-3. Hope this gets to you guys. Love your reactions
Reverse Flash is straight up one of the most psychotic and sadistic villains in comics as the man is perhaps the most pettiest villains imaginable. This man is time traveller from the future and was once the biggest Flash fan but found out that in the future his destiny was predetermined to be his heroes greatest enemy, and no matter what he did to change his future, it ultimately lead to him becoming a living paradox, a being outside of time, with no past, present or future and all he has is his connection to Barry Allen via the time stream and how he uses the Speed Force. As such Thawne made it his life's mission to make sure he ruins Barry Allens life, literally going back in time multiple times to Barry's childhood to push him down the stairs as a kid, erase his childhood best friend from history, kill his childhood dog, and Reverse Flash was actually the person who canonically kill Barry's mom... all just so he could f*** with The Flash. Thawne is literally every bad day Barry has ever had. This man is beyond evil and honestly might be more evil and dangerous than the Joker
Yes! YES! YES!!!!! This is one of the all time greatest animated superhero movies, personally one of my favourite pieces of superhero content ever. It’s just so good, full of great moments, fantastic characters and does justice to my favourite superhero of all time, The Flash. I don’t have a single bad thing to say about this masterpiece.
Love thomas and martha as batman and joker. It gives batman a reason not to kill the joker because that's his wife and you also know that the joker does have some sanity left in her. I don't remember all the details but thomas asked martha if they would sacrifice everything to say their sun and she does agree. However, when she finds out that he becomes batman she loses it in her grief because her son, even when alive will suffer so much. I think she ends up jumping off a cliff or something idk. It makes Thomas's letter so heart warming because he is proud of the man bruce became but he and martha want him to be happy
Now this is unexpected! Flashpoint Paradox is a great animated movie! The whole DC Animated Movie Universe pops off, you should definitely react to all of them! Honestly, if they had all went to theaters, the Animated Movie Universe would have been a huge hit!
It was the saddest moment as we go through the changes made, we get to Martha Wayne and the boys are going "I think she killed herself or something" and it was the worst something imaginable.
These are just the "First Story Arc" movies, I hope y'all will continue into the "Second Story Arc" too! Flashpoint is the first movie in the "First Story Arc". These are the "Second Story Arc" Movies: - Superman: Man of Tomorrow - Justice Society: World War II - Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One - Batman: The Long Halloween - Part Two - Green Lantern: Beware My Power - Legion of Super-Heroes - Justice League: Warworld - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part One - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Two - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Three
this movie actually starts the whole DCAU movies for the next 10 years. it starts off with. this is the movies that are connected to the flashpoint paradox. (Disclaimer i may have mixed up some of the movies on the order they were released. and i may have missed a few animated movies as well) -Justice League War -Son of Batman -Justice League Throne of Atlantis -Batman vs Robin -Justice League DARK -Batman :Bad Blood -Justice League vs Teen Titans -Death of Superman -Return of Superman - Batman: Hush -Teen Titans : Judas Contract -Justice League DARK Apokalips.
You'll be happy to hear that there is a Flashpoint Batman comic It's called Flashpoint: Batman Knight of Vengeance, and it follows Martha's decent into Joker and Batman's hunt for her. It's really good and dark.
Usually Shazam is one kid That transforms into a fully grown adult superhero. Usually the Shazam kids are something different, but in the flashpoint, alternate universe, there one in the same.
Batman with guns & a war !? Sign me up 😂 . Flash is my 2nd fav DC character & it’s crazy that he’s pretty much the only one in the league who has the power to change his past , like if Batman had the same power you bet he’d do it to save his parents.
What a love about the DC animated movies is how much they don't care about explaining everything. The live action movies always spend so much time introducing you to a handful of characters at a time, but these ones just show you characters you never heard of being badass. Which ironically just makes you want to see more of them.
I like that in these movies but hated it in the Tomorrowverse ones. These ones made not knowing fun and cool, the new ones feel like we're just hopping around with no plan
Well, Flashpoint came out during a time where people were already aware of DC'S characters and their stories so there was no need for introduction and explanation. Since this movie was obviously not meant for little kids I should assume the target audience were people who had already grown up with DCAU.
@@CynderSpirit I actually thought about that later, but it makes sense given how I assume these movies are mostly made with fans in mind, unlike, say, a big-screen adaption that needs to be accessible to a general audience.
Something that I think isn’t talked about enough is how clever it was to make Martha the joker. Because with this Batman (someone who kills) there is no way the joker should still be alive. But it makes perfect sense that even after all the villains he’s presumably killed, he still can’t bring himself to kill his wife.
This one is always hard to watch, I feel like I'm usually so desensitized to violence but not to WW killing a literal child Billy. Anyway, I recommend you guys watch Superman: Doomsday. That was a great one, I remember watching it on Too amiami. Or oh, watch the animated Hellboy movies, those were AWESOME!
Love that this movie showed off just how petty the reverse flash is. Like he is fully willing to die and destroy the universe just to make Barry miserable
It’s funny because Thomas is kinda ASS at fighting in comparison to his son (makes sense since he’s not only old asf but he didn’t train his whole adult life to fight) Also DC’s heroes are cool even when they’re NOT bad people
Yeah. Then for reasons when he returned in the comics they retconned Thomas into being a super omega badass who can beat the entire Bat Family all at once despite the fact that Flashpoint pretty firmly established that kind of trash compared to most DC street tiers in the main universe.
In the comics, the Amazons don't have this many supernatural monsters as part of their army. Pegasi, unicorns, magical kangaroos yes, but not a cerberus or minotaur looking thing. My guess is that either Flashpoint-Wonder Woman has been subjugating monsters to build up her forces as a warlord, or some of her usual enemies (Ares or Circe) are supporting her with a levy of their own troops. It makes sense since Flashpoint-Aquaman teamed up with his villains that she might do the same, and Ares would love to have a stake on a conflict like this.
For your question about Mirror Master, his tech is pretty neat. He's the same guy from that justice league doom movie you watched. He can enter/exit any reflective surface to enter a mirror world, can create illusion doubles of himself, and anything he shoots with his gun becomes glass
The funny thing about Barry's dead mom origin is that it wasn't his classic origin like for Batman. It's kinda like how Superman's first origin from growing up in an orphanage was discarded, and the later one of growing up with the Kents on the farm defined his character ever since. Barry's mom being dead wasn't part of his backstory until the 2009 comic series "The Flash: Rebirth" by Geoff Johns.
My favourite detail from the comic is that the traditional overhead narration most comics have is written in a very strange, abstract, almost personal manner through all the issues of the comic, and it’s not really explained why it’s written so strangely compared to typical narration… Until you get to the end and realise that all the narration boxes were part of Thomas’ letter to Bruce, so if you go back to the start, you can read the whole thing.
Batman: Knight of Vengeance by Brian Azzarello, Eduardo Risso and Trish Mulvhill is the Batman-centered mini-series from Flashpoint. It's great! Also, these moves go Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox, Justice League War, Son of Batman, Justice League: Throne of Atlantis, Batman vs Robin, Batman: Bad Blood, Justice League vs Teen Titans, Justice League Dark, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract, Suicide Squad Hell to Pay, The Death of Superman, Constantine: City of Demons, Reign of Supermen, Batman: Hush, Wonder Woman: Blood Lines, and Justice League Dark: Apokalips War. I know Joe talked about wanting things to look the same. All of those were part of an animated DC world that all interconnected. Movies like Batman: Year One, Batman Dark Knight Returns were just meant as one offs. Fun to do and not really connected. They brought this animated world to an end (there's lots of reasons why) and started a new animated world with Superman: Man of Tomorrow. These are the current animated films since mid to late 2020.
There are 3 timelines in this movie. The movie starts in the original timeline where the Justice League is at their peak, being awesome and heroic. Then Barry saves his mom, creating the bad timeline where most of the rest of the movie takes place. Then Barry stops himself from changing the past, but as Thawne explained, the mere act of traveling through time creates distortions so even though Barry undid his original change there were things that were still altered when he broke the time barrier which brings us to the 3rd timeline where the movie ends and the rest of the movies in the DCAMU continuity take place. The ending scene chronologically takes place towards the end of the DCAMU series.
Interesting and very important fact about Eobard Thawne (Reverse Flash) that the movie didn't cover: Thawne comes from the future so he time travels a lot and he's actually the best at time traveling among all speedsters in the comics, when Barry was traveling back to save his mom Thawne was also doing the same thing and since Barry change the timeline while Thawne was outside of it he became a living paradox, Thawne had became a being whithout a past, present or future, he actually dies several times in the comics but he always comes back because he's the only being that doesn't have any continuity
I dont know if someone else answered this but Thomas Waynes wife became the Joker. It's the reason the Joker isn't dead yet. She's the only one he keeps trying to save but watching Bruce get murdered literaly broke her mind.
so at 16:55 I gotta tell you, they are both Aqualad. The first Aqualad was Garth, the pale one with purple eyes, he's a founding member of the Teen Titans. The black Aqualad is Kaldur'am, the second aqualad. The red(?) haired girl is Tula, Aquagirl, and the guy with the trident was Orm/Ocean Master, Aquaman's half brother.
So a bit of backstory on the source material of this movie. “Flashpoint” is a 2011 story written by Geoff johns that is a semi-sequel to “Flash Rebirth: the return of Barry Allen” and it was suppose to be a regular time traveling adventure with Barry but DC decided to reboot their universe (again) after 25 years of continuity, to import all their vertigo & wildcats characters into the main universe, and to gain new readers leading to the NEW 52 era. So “flashpoint” would be the catalyst of the new reboot universe. (Later on it would be confirm that there were other in-lore factors were involved with the reboot) The New 52 continuity would end up being successful (with Batman, justice league, & Wonder Woman) yet controversial at the same time (with Superman, teen titans, & green arrow). This movie in particular was originally just an adaptation for “flashpoint” but WB took it a step further and create a series of movies (about 15 movies) set in a continuity fans dubbed “the new 52 movie universe” or the DCAMU that starts with Justice league: War and ends with Justice League Dark: apocalypse war. The monster on the boat when death stroke & the Atlanteans were fighting was Clayface. The one with blonde hair & red mask is grifter from wildcats. Created by Jim Lee who would later bring his characters to DC. The laser eye helmet man working for aquaman is Black manta. A full human mercenary Typically aquaman’s arch enemy. Also Aquaman looks a lot like Brock lesnar.
In the comic, when Barry went back to save his mom, thawn was outside the timestream, which is why he wasn’t affected and remembered everything. Because he was outside the timestream when the change happened he became a paradox himself and basically became immortal
@@jRoy7I feel like it was a great film in isolation but in terms of an end of universe event it was a bit...well it erased everything and started from scratch while butchering the characters I've grown up with. Which mind you is very comic accurate but if you have the ability to wrap up your universe unlike the comics and you do it like that, can't say I'm a fan.
If you read the comic, where the Joker asks Batman "What happens to Bruce?" Batman says "He takes after his father." Jokers says " He's a Doctor?", Batman " No". Joker " Oh God!"
And this is why the Flash is adverse to using his super speed to change time. Flashpoint was a massive butterfly effect comic event, where many of the DC heroes' lives lead a different path of life. Much of the legacy of Flashpoint lives on still in comics, Thomas Wayne's Batman has appeared a few times (sometimes from an evil timeline, Martha Wayne's Joker had a bit more in the comics but she died) and the letter he sent left another unique item that set up another big crossover event, it was also a way for DC to soft reboot the universe into the 'New 52', which like most 'new' iterations didn't quite have the same popularity as the original. Barry's origin is quite airtight, but at the same time it's worth pointing out that Barry is the _second_ Flash. The original Flash was Jay Garrick, the Flash is also a whole family of heroes too, Barry's successor and current Flash is Wally West, who was said by Barry himself to be the fastest of them all. Oh there are comics and movies of Vampire Batman this just isn't one of them. Vampires and Zombies ended up being big comic events for Marvel (Zombies and Blood Hunt) and DC (DCeased and DC vs Vampires) in the past few years. Steve Trevor is one of Wonder Woman's primary love interests, which is why it's visceral that she just ups and hangs him with the Lasso of Truth. More brutal is just gutting a child! Billy is the main Shazam but Shazam (aka Captain Marvel, until of course Marvel went into dispute) is actually a group of heroes, Flashpoint shifted it that rather than individuals they all Captain Planet it. Not Aqualad is Garth aka Tempest, he was Aqualad for a bit too, usual Aquaman enemies Black Manta and Ocean Master were also there. We also had Clayface and Vixen on Luthor's side in the battle between Atlantis and Luthor's guard. 'Lava Guy' is Captain Atom (not to be confused with The Atom, who is like Ant Man in that he shrinks), an insanely overpowered hero, like Atom Eve levels. The Green Lantern in the box is the Lantern that crashes to Earth and finds Hal Jordan, giving him his power ring so he can become Green Lantern. Grifter is different to Red Hood, he's part of the WildC.A.T.s, DC acquired his IP (same with Captain Atom, different IPs though), they had a tv show in the 90s.
Shazam's/ Captain Marvel's* transformation ability changes every now and then. Sometimes, it's only one person (usually Billy Batson, the kid you saw get "offed" by Wonder Woman), sometimes it's more than one. *Captain Marvel's name was changed in more recent media to Shazam to avoid confusion with a certain OTHER comic book company.
Aqua Man is a beast. After the Super Friends show completely made him a total joke, DC has been trying really hard to turn him awesome. From his depiction in this movie to getting Jason Momoa to play him in a movie.
I did not notice before how quick Barry is about the fixing things after just having a short moment with his mother. Like, there is a lack of natural reluctancy, that I didn't notice before. However, this world was dying anyways, so it's not it unbelievable for Barry to fix this because her mother wouldn't live there.
Curious things about this: Here, it just looks like things went back to normal at the end of the movie, but in the comics, while that horrible timeline was corrected, the DC universe didn't went back to its previous state, instead morphed into some similar, but with some differences (used as a reboot)
So in the comics this was a universal reboot point for DC where they tried relaunching most of their characters back to Square one except some of the more popular ones at the time like Batman and Green Lantern. It's what was known as "The New 52" as they relaunched 52 titles. Some of those titles included characters from previously unconnected comic Universes like the Wildstorm Universe's Grifter who started out as part of Jim Lee's WildC.A.T.s. Jim Lee was Chief Creative Officer so there was a lot of his original characters folded in.
"Why do people not talk about these movies?" First off, I KNOW RIGHT? I LOVED watching these as they were coming. But there's several factors one can assume. For starters, these were happening alongside the Snyderverse, which WB promoted like nothing else, and also were very mixed in reactions, so people were just talking about those instead of watching this universe. Which is a shame because i do dare to argue these are just as good as anything from the peak era of the MCU. I'm doing a hard sale here, but i guarantee anyone interested in these movies, that you won't regret watching this entire universe, these were indeed awesome films.
Omg im so excited you guys are doing these movies! They're so good! I was sad when max started removing some of them. My bf and I watched all of them though. Cannot wait to rewatch!
When it comes to Shazam, normally its just 1 kid - Billy Batson - who say's the word "Shazam" and transforms into the hero, endowed with the powers of various greek gods. But here in Flashpoint, Billy only recieved 1 letter of the magic word from the Wizard, and his siblings got 1 letter each, which requires them to all be together and say "Shazam" to transform as they each represent one of the gods that grants Shazam his powers. They were too scared to become Shazam (Captain Thunder in this universe) again because the last time they did, Wonder Woman nearly killed them, hence the scarring on Captain Thunders face when they do transform.
Thawne is a special kind of petty. Honestly, he's the only character in any media who's his special kind of petty. The lengths he'll go to is ABSURD. It's even absurd in the original comics too; maybe even a little more. I'd actually recommend the comics if you want a really good Flash story; The Flashpoint Comics I mean. 19:50 That was indeed Mera.
16:28 - Clayface, a Batman villain. 16:39 - Orm/Oceanmaster, Aquaman's brother. The two guys behind him are the two Aqualads Garth and Kaldur'ahm [sp?] 21:41 - Captain Atom--name as it says on the tin. Overloading him with energy is a very bad idea. I believe the comics source of The Flashpoint Paradox has a series on Thomas Wayne becoming Batman. His wife, Martha, went mad after the death of their son and became the Flashpoint world's version of the Joker. There's apparently another timeline where Thomas became Batman when both his son and wife were killed. It's also pretty cold that Wonder Woman killed Steve Trevor when he's her love interest in canon. I look forward to your reactions to the DC Animated Movie Universe.
Shazam is not a multi-character. It takes one kids to be the Wizard's Champion. The reason why there were more than once is that Shazam shared his powers with his foster family.
Grifter was originally part of Image Wildstorm Comics (WildCATs, Stormwatch, The Authority, Gen 13 etc.) DC used Flashpoint to incorporate a number of characters when DC acquired the company
here's a fun tidbit. this movie is the very catalyst for the inter-connected DCAU movies for the next 10 years. starting of with Justice League War. and ending with the Bloody Brutal Finale Justice League Dark: Apokalips.
It is the most iconic, I’ll grant you that, but best is highly subjective. I think Spider-Man is a better design, at least his default costume. There’s tons of cool and lame costumes in comics.
Reverse Flash can't really be killed, he's messed with time so often and became the cause of so many effects that led to him and effectively erased his own existence multiple times by traveling to another time so he never stops existing just because there was no cause to create him that he essentially exists outside of time. Like it's crazy how convoluted his existence and their battles become, technically Barry was the lightning bolt that gave him his own powers because of it. His hatred of Barry ties them so strongly that he's admitted he was the cause of every source of bad luck that Barry's ever had, like literally every time he tripped and skinned a knee or was tardy for class that was Reverse Flash' doing just to be petty (That was me, Barry. I jerked you off at superspeed so it seemed like you came from only a woman's touch!) He doesn't kill Flash either, especially not young Flash, because he's the _only_ thing tying RF to existence now. In DC, unlike Marvel, the universes reset ever so often. Crisis on Infinite Earths and Flashpoint are the two most popular examples of it. This led into The New 52 era starting 2011, so the next movies in this universe are adaptations of those stories. There are adaptatioms of more classic stories mixed in as well, because the New 52 didn't completely abandon original canon, there was a theme of if a new comic nentioned an old one, it was still a canon story in the new universe.
Very much enjoying you guys watching these . They did such a better job adapting the comics in these then any live action in a lot of peoples eyes . Your gonna like the rest for sure .
Idk if it's already in the plans, but y'all really need to check out "Justice League Dark"! It explores more of the occult and supernatural elements of the universe through, what is effectively, an offshoot team. It's one of my favorites! Also "Constantine: City of Demons"! Oh, and if you want a couple more shows, "Doom Patrol" and "Swamp Thing" are great! Both should be on Max.
1:30 Barry has always kinda been the focal point for all the universes. Mostly because he is one of the few dc characters that can change the timeline through time travel in turn creating a new branching universes. So yea most of the time Barry’s story is always the same. By the way this is the first film in a span of 15 dc animated films. All beginning and ending with the flash 36:00 not quite the flash is so much faster than Superman. There have been multiple comics where Superman and the flash have raced with different outcomes some even being full blown public charity events. But to quote the flash himself, “Those were for charity, Clark” as he breaks the sound barrier The flash lets Superman win those race sometimes for charity event and to just have fun but when it comes down to life and death Superman can’t hope to catch up with him. That line was from a comic where flash had to give up his life to protect his universe but Superman pleads with him and tries to stop him saying that they will find another way. As Superman is neck and neck with him Barry drops that banger of a line and rushes past him
14:48 knowing the Joker in the alternate time line is Martha Wayne is amazing. Dc fans do talk about these movies and the live action/animated tv shows because they are awesome, Marvel may be better at live action movies on the big screen but Dc rules the small screen. 31:36 fun fact when Batman was first created he did actually use guns they changed it over time.
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In the comics, a lot of Aquamans villains are Atlanteans who think Aquaman is too passive of a king, in this world, all of Aquaman's villains are his lieutenants.
Bruh YEARS LATER aftering seeing this movie several times this never hit me. Incredible detail!
Aquaman's life is basically yelling to his own people to stop being imperialistic tyrants
@@nathanielclaw2841"Guys, can we not try to conquer the surface? It's not that hard"
@@juliocesar899BUT I WANNA!
I’m wondering what happened to black Manta then, maybe a promise of giving him his own section of the surface?
Fun fact:
Batman removed his mask because the letter was "for bruce".
Bro...!
It also shows that he trusts Barry.
@@Konoshy dude already knew tho...
Flash considered that place as his second home
I love how none of this replies realized, the comment was supposed to imply "batman" and "Bruce" is different
Usually, Captain Marvel is just one kid. But in Flashpoint Universe, his name is Captain Thunder and he is the result of the kids combining into one being.
Exactly! In this timeline/universe!
I always thought the name is a copyright thing. MCUs version.
Shazam is usually one kid but there is a Shazam family. Shazam shares his powers with a family
@@jonreese7066 In Earth 1, yes.
@@jonreese7066 Kind of. I think DC lost the rights to the name “Captain Marvel” at some point. But this means that they simply cannot advertise the guy as such.
So, for example, no movies or comic books with “Captain Marvel” in the title.
However, he can still be referred to as Captain Marvel in the comics or movies themselves.
In the latest comics, he switched to being called “Captain”.
@@extranerdinarytroper4835
Dc still have the rights to use the name “Captain Marvel” they’re just not allowed to use it on the cover of a comic book. That’s why his comic is often called “Shazam” or “power of Shazam” following the new 52 2011 reboot they decided to simplify it by renaming Captain marvel Shazam, but legally they still can use the name. They have done occasionally when they bring back the pre new 52 version of the character
These animated movies are literally some of the most underrated superhero content. Isn't it just delicious hollywood irony, when the competent and mature version of a film, is the one from a medium seen as "childish" in the same industry?
Honestly the general consensus on DC is that the animated movies are fantastic and the live action ones (in general) are subpar at best.
I’m not even sure how that can be. I know you can do some things in animation better than live action, but I feel like the difference in story and quality can’t be this bad.
Because they actually take comics seriously whereas Hollywood sees any form of media not either another show/movie or a book as inherently childish. Even when TLOU got an adaptation that blew everyone's minds the media were still acting like the game was a childish IP and Hollywood "turned" it dark and serious, when the game is still the better version of the story.
Not really underrated. All fans know the animated content is better than live action, been that way for over a decade now.
I've watched them all so many times ever since they came out. These are some of the best superhero movies ever!
The animation director wants to adapt the story from the comic to the screen but Hollywood directors have an ego and want to "leave their mark" on the story and characters without realising that people want the comic story and they aren't as good as they like to think they are.
Add to that execs and test audiences who might not be the proper target for the movie.
Here’s the contents of the letter.
“Dear son,
There’s only one thing I know about life. I know some things happen by chance. And some things happen because we make them happen. Barry Allen was once haunted by the past. But when he became the Flash, he left the ghosts behind. He found love, a family. And for the first time ever…friends. Barry thought yesterday was behind him…but somebody wouldn’t let him escape it.
When Barry came to me for help, I turned him away. I’m not the hero of this story. I’m a man who’s been corrupted by his own unbearable pain. I’m a man who has too much blood on his hands to be called good. Your friend taught me we can’t only live a life for those we’ve lost. We have to live a life for those we still have.
If I got a second chance, I would hope I’d come to understand that. To live that…like you should, Bruce. That’s all parents want for their children. What we never had. Your mother and I want you to be happy. Promise me you’ll try. And I will too…wherever I am.
Love always,
your father - Thomas Wayne.”
Did they show enough of the letter in the movie, or did you just pull it from the comic? Because I know they show it there
Dang it I'm not crying you're crying 😂
@@Some_tunisian_punk Ah
Knowing this kinda screwed the scene for me.
90% of the letter is talking about Barry, imagine getting a letter from your dead father, and its basically him dickriding your friend lol
I prefer to think this isnt canon and the letter isnt "hey bruce, your friend Barry is awesome, be like him ok?"
@@mmrguerra2009 The letter is literally saying "Try to live an actual life"
“They haven’t shown any violence. It’s all implied”
Immediately cuts to Aquaman’s arm being sliced off.
The fun thing about the Rogues that’s the villain group that involves Captain Cold. Led by Captain Cold, the Rogues have a strict moral code which members are expected to follow: No Rogue may inherit another Rogue's identity while the original still lives. No members can do drugs, and No killing "speedsters", "capes" or women and children. The new killing supers is because if they did they would be in so much more trouble than they are. They mostly stick to theft and burglary.
"Professionals have standards."
They also have a no crime on Christmas truce.
But why follow those rules?
Want to take a light speed punch in the head?
No?
So, follow the rules
For real tho. There's a story where The Rogue get tricked into killing the newest Flash, Bart Allen, Barry's grandson from the future; by Inertia who is basically Bart's Reverse Flash. Wally West, who was The Flash before Bart and had been stuck in The Speedforce, returned as Bart died and froze Inertia then put him on display in The Flash Museum. When Inertia got free later on, The Rogues killed him then dropped the body off at the cops with a message: "Tell The Flash we're even - The Rogues"
you forgot "no Killing Cop's" as well. and if i remember there was a flash or was it a JL comic story in where a new member of the rogues killed a cop on one of their heist's and the guy acted all smug about it and tried to brush it off like it was not a big deal and even act tough in front of capt. cold. let's just say that upstart member got literally kicked out of the group.
Time travel in DC can lead to the most insane things. Flash is easily one of the most OP heroes if the writers don't fuck with him. Reverse Flash is a unique flavor of petty man will do anything to mess with Flash
The pettiest man in the multiverse
It was me Barry. I replaced the milk in your fridge forcing you to spend money to replace it!
Thawn is one of the pettiest supervillains in history. The things he's done not only to try and kill Barry but just make his life miserable are insane.
The list goes on for miles of the petty stuff he’s done.
Like, the more you learn about him the more the "it was me Barry, I jerked you off at super speed so it looked like you went off at the slightest touch" joke monologue someone came up with totally feels like a plausible thing he'd do.
I think he is canonically the cause of literally every single bad moment in Barry's life.
@@lvlHive Pretty much
And isn’t it also canonical that he does all of this shit, Soley, because that’s the only way he can think of to make the flash pay attention to him?
"IT WAS ME BARRY"
I came here to say this, but knew in my heart it had already been said
Wonder is from Greek mythology...shes a Amazon but she's also Zeus's daughter so she could easily just be like "uncle Hades let me borrow the Cerberus" or "dad can i have some minotaur" or just get them herself
Fun Fact: Cyborg in this movie is actually voiced by Michael B. Jordan
stop. get some some help
There are two aqualads. The original is Garth (the one from the teen titans show basically) and the other Kaldur (gets way more focus in the young justice show where he's the first aqualad).
I like how they are calling these dc movies violent with all the death and blood but Im just waiting until they watch justice league dark: Apocalypse war
Yeah, but unfortunately it's not good as this movie, quality-wise.
Dark was actually brutal
The whole "Barry's mom was killed and dad was blamed" thing was an invention pretty much made for the comic Flashpoint paradox story. Up until then his parents were alive well into his adulthood, there was even a story where the spirit of one of his dead villains possessed his dad.
Yeah that always bugged me. Apparently Thawne is allowed to change the timeline to kill Barry’s mom but Barry and no one else is allowed to correct it. By the time travel rules in Flash, the timeline post Nora’s murder is an aberration and ‘wrong’, correcting it should’ve been the goal. But DC has to have tragic backstories…
@@Fordo007 Barry is an amateur in changing the timeline apparently
No, it was un the flash rebirth comic. Cause wally west was the flash for the late 80s to mid 08. Flash point was 2011
@@Fordo007 Like Thawne said Barry is an amateur. When Thawne got his powers he constantly changed his own timeline before going back to meet Barry, he has a lot more experience.
@@Fordo007 Well, Flashpoint was supposed to just be like an Elseworld story (a one off). But some higher up at DC wanted to use the story to shape the whole continuity.
Flash is indeed the glue that holds the League together. He's the nicest hero, the nicest person out there.
Every single time Flash dies, every single time the timeline goes to shit.
Wasn't there a Justice Legaue animated episode/movie about that too? An evil JL from a different universe shows up and the only thing different was that their Flash was dead.
@@Konoshyyes but Wally so we can still say damm it Barry
Btw, if you do want to see vampire Batman, there's a one-off dc animated movie called Justice League: Gods and Monsters. It's a different alternate timeline story completely unrelated to the others.
I was thinking that one when they kept saying vampire batman.
10:17 Fun fact cyborg is Michael B Jordan. You know killmonger from black panther. I suggest yall watch chronicle if yall haven’t
Chronicle was so good.
@@billbill6094 Definitely. Still pissed how the production ended because of the drama with some of the stuff outside of the movie
@@millasboowait could you explain?
@@goatzuku the voice actor of cyborg was killmonger in black panther. He did this before and the movie chronicle as well before he got really relevant
By far my favorite found footage style film
The reverse flash will do anything to mess with the flash and because of his origins relying on the flash to exist he can't kill him.
" IT WAS ME BARRY "
Also- BOTH of those young men were Aqualad. The one with black hair was Garth AKA Tempest- the original Aqualad and Arthur’s adoptive son. The black guy was Jackson Hyde/Kaldur’Ahm. He’s the second Aqualad and the son of Black Manta, Aquaman’s biggest opp. Kaldur is a main character in Young Justice, Garth is the Aqualad we saw in Teen Titans.
Barry _"You can't catch me, gay thoughts!"_ Allen
I understood that reference. That episode in Family Guy that supposedly explained why Tom Cruise is always running in most of films since that’s his trademark. 😂
Not fast enough to outrun them in this timeline.
The fact that Barry's suit is slightly different after he saves the timeline is an excellent way of showing that things aren't technically the same as they were. In the New 52, some heroes are even stronger or weaker than their old multiverse counterparts, or their powers work differently altogether. It shows that once you've changed the past, it'll never be the exact same, even if you undo the change you caused perfectly.
(At 32:10) No! Grifter is a actual DC character who was part of a team called The WildC.A.T.s
Yes, sometimes, most of the time Shazam is one kid. Billy Batson. But sometimes, not often, Shazam is a group of kids that all fuse 😭😂
This was the movie that introduced me to the multiple kids version of Shazam.
(At 16:30) You guys SERIOUSLY can't tell me you don't remember the shapeshifter named Clayface?
They don't sound like they are that deep into DC lore or it has been a while for them and they don't remember.
Also the "green arrow" guy is Pied Piper, a flash character
(At 15:20) Oh wait, it gets better! _This_ one's ALSO voiced by Ron Perlman from _Teen Titans._
It’s kinda funny how the show went to such lengths to hide his face and here they’re just “yeah, pirate grandpa, no biggie”
I am aware of whats in that collection box you have but, hope you guys are made aware that this movie is the first of the DCAMU and not part of the DCAM. Here is the list watch order of its continuity. Flashpoint paradox, justice league war,son of batman,Batman vs robin,throne of Atlantis,nightwing and robin short,batman vs Robin, batman badblood, JL vs Teen titans, suicide squad hell to pay,JL Dark, TT judas contract, death of superman, reign of superman, Constantine city of demons, batman hush, WW bloodlines, JL Dark apokolips war, Constantine house of mystery(movie release date is newer due to the Constantine short but all the other shorts came out as extra for the other movies so is in correct order), superman man of tomorrow, batman long Halloween, justice society ww2, green lantern beware my power, legion of super heroes, JL war world, JL crisis on infinite earth's part1-2-3. Hope this gets to you guys. Love your reactions
Reverse Flash is straight up one of the most psychotic and sadistic villains in comics as the man is perhaps the most pettiest villains imaginable. This man is time traveller from the future and was once the biggest Flash fan but found out that in the future his destiny was predetermined to be his heroes greatest enemy, and no matter what he did to change his future, it ultimately lead to him becoming a living paradox, a being outside of time, with no past, present or future and all he has is his connection to Barry Allen via the time stream and how he uses the Speed Force. As such Thawne made it his life's mission to make sure he ruins Barry Allens life, literally going back in time multiple times to Barry's childhood to push him down the stairs as a kid, erase his childhood best friend from history, kill his childhood dog, and Reverse Flash was actually the person who canonically kill Barry's mom... all just so he could f*** with The Flash. Thawne is literally every bad day Barry has ever had.
This man is beyond evil and honestly might be more evil and dangerous than the Joker
Yes! YES! YES!!!!! This is one of the all time greatest animated superhero movies, personally one of my favourite pieces of superhero content ever. It’s just so good, full of great moments, fantastic characters and does justice to my favourite superhero of all time, The Flash. I don’t have a single bad thing to say about this masterpiece.
I read this in a planktain voice
It's implied quickly in the montage, but in the comic Flashpoint universe, the Joker is Martha Wayne. After Bruce's death she went insane.
Love thomas and martha as batman and joker. It gives batman a reason not to kill the joker because that's his wife and you also know that the joker does have some sanity left in her. I don't remember all the details but thomas asked martha if they would sacrifice everything to say their sun and she does agree. However, when she finds out that he becomes batman she loses it in her grief because her son, even when alive will suffer so much. I think she ends up jumping off a cliff or something idk. It makes Thomas's letter so heart warming because he is proud of the man bruce became but he and martha want him to be happy
Now this is unexpected! Flashpoint Paradox is a great animated movie! The whole DC Animated Movie Universe pops off, you should definitely react to all of them!
Honestly, if they had all went to theaters, the Animated Movie Universe would have been a huge hit!
40:09 Barry ran away before Bruce could ask about his mom
It was the saddest moment as we go through the changes made, we get to Martha Wayne and the boys are going "I think she killed herself or something" and it was the worst something imaginable.
@@heysulfuric2372 she lost her mind after her son’s death.
These are just the "First Story Arc" movies, I hope y'all will continue into the "Second Story Arc" too! Flashpoint is the first movie in the "First Story Arc". These are the "Second Story Arc" Movies:
- Superman: Man of Tomorrow
- Justice Society: World War II
- Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One
- Batman: The Long Halloween - Part Two
- Green Lantern: Beware My Power
- Legion of Super-Heroes
- Justice League: Warworld
- Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part One
- Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Two
- Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Three
Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, is also the "Sequel" to Paradox
Those movies are a different continuity though
@@G-LukeJA I have question, did you see apokolips war movie?
Also does House of mystery movie count as tomorrowverse or like bridge between two continuities?
this movie actually starts the whole DCAU movies for the next 10 years. it starts off with.
this is the movies that are connected to the flashpoint paradox.
(Disclaimer i may have mixed up some of the movies on the order they were released. and i may have missed a few animated movies as well)
-Justice League War
-Son of Batman
-Justice League Throne of Atlantis
-Batman vs Robin
-Justice League DARK
-Batman :Bad Blood
-Justice League vs Teen Titans
-Death of Superman
-Return of Superman
- Batman: Hush
-Teen Titans : Judas Contract
-Justice League DARK Apokalips.
You'll be happy to hear that there is a Flashpoint Batman comic
It's called Flashpoint: Batman Knight of Vengeance, and it follows Martha's decent into Joker and Batman's hunt for her. It's really good and dark.
Usually Shazam is one kid That transforms into a fully grown adult superhero. Usually the Shazam kids are something different, but in the flashpoint, alternate universe, there one in the same.
Batman with guns & a war !? Sign me up 😂 . Flash is my 2nd fav DC character & it’s crazy that he’s pretty much the only one in the league who has the power to change his past , like if Batman had the same power you bet he’d do it to save his parents.
Who is your 1st
What a love about the DC animated movies is how much they don't care about explaining everything.
The live action movies always spend so much time introducing you to a handful of characters at a time, but these ones just show you characters you never heard of being badass.
Which ironically just makes you want to see more of them.
I like that in these movies but hated it in the Tomorrowverse ones. These ones made not knowing fun and cool, the new ones feel like we're just hopping around with no plan
Well, Flashpoint came out during a time where people were already aware of DC'S characters and their stories so there was no need for introduction and explanation. Since this movie was obviously not meant for little kids I should assume the target audience were people who had already grown up with DCAU.
@@CynderSpirit I actually thought about that later, but it makes sense given how I assume these movies are mostly made with fans in mind, unlike, say, a big-screen adaption that needs to be accessible to a general audience.
Something that I think isn’t talked about enough is how clever it was to make Martha the joker. Because with this Batman (someone who kills) there is no way the joker should still be alive. But it makes perfect sense that even after all the villains he’s presumably killed, he still can’t bring himself to kill his wife.
Thawne can never actually really die. He’s time travelled so much that there’s a version of him that exists in almost every point in time.
The silver guy is called Captain atom he’s a former us Air Force pilot turned into living nuclear energy inside of a containment suit.
Sirvió de inspiración para el dr manhattan
This one is always hard to watch, I feel like I'm usually so desensitized to violence but not to WW killing a literal child Billy.
Anyway, I recommend you guys watch Superman: Doomsday. That was a great one, I remember watching it on Too amiami. Or oh, watch the animated Hellboy movies, those were AWESOME!
that one specific scene and the entire Apokalypse war movie are things i could only watch one time. After the first watch i just cant do it again.
😭💀 y'all unalive me with the sudden "AHOY BILLY!" jumpscare 🤣💕
Love that this movie showed off just how petty the reverse flash is. Like he is fully willing to die and destroy the universe just to make Barry miserable
It’s funny because Thomas is kinda ASS at fighting in comparison to his son (makes sense since he’s not only old asf but he didn’t train his whole adult life to fight)
Also DC’s heroes are cool even when they’re NOT bad people
Yeah.
Then for reasons when he returned in the comics they retconned Thomas into being a super omega badass who can beat the entire Bat Family all at once despite the fact that Flashpoint pretty firmly established that kind of trash compared to most DC street tiers in the main universe.
The thing about Reverse Flash is that he can ignore time paradox. Not matter what happens in the main time line, he will still exist
That was aqua lad from young justice. Tula from young justice. And the other aqua lad from the teen titans show
In the comics, the Amazons don't have this many supernatural monsters as part of their army. Pegasi, unicorns, magical kangaroos yes, but not a cerberus or minotaur looking thing. My guess is that either Flashpoint-Wonder Woman has been subjugating monsters to build up her forces as a warlord, or some of her usual enemies (Ares or Circe) are supporting her with a levy of their own troops. It makes sense since Flashpoint-Aquaman teamed up with his villains that she might do the same, and Ares would love to have a stake on a conflict like this.
"How does that work" basically sums up the Reverse Flash Perfectly.
For your question about Mirror Master, his tech is pretty neat. He's the same guy from that justice league doom movie you watched. He can enter/exit any reflective surface to enter a mirror world, can create illusion doubles of himself, and anything he shoots with his gun becomes glass
Even though this is out of order 0:25 Definitely the top 3 best DCAU movies
The funny thing about Barry's dead mom origin is that it wasn't his classic origin like for Batman.
It's kinda like how Superman's first origin from growing up in an orphanage was discarded, and the later one of growing up with the Kents on the farm defined his character ever since.
Barry's mom being dead wasn't part of his backstory until the 2009 comic series "The Flash: Rebirth" by Geoff Johns.
My favourite detail from the comic is that the traditional overhead narration most comics have is written in a very strange, abstract, almost personal manner through all the issues of the comic, and it’s not really explained why it’s written so strangely compared to typical narration…
Until you get to the end and realise that all the narration boxes were part of Thomas’ letter to Bruce, so if you go back to the start, you can read the whole thing.
Love yall just got the whole collection so there’s no worries of yall missing any of the movies. Goat level moves right there
That dialogue "You are one hell of a messenger" is a reference to Flash being inspired from Hermes, the messenger God.
Batman: Knight of Vengeance by Brian Azzarello, Eduardo Risso and Trish Mulvhill is the Batman-centered mini-series from Flashpoint. It's great!
Also, these moves go Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox, Justice League War, Son of Batman, Justice League: Throne of Atlantis, Batman vs Robin, Batman: Bad Blood, Justice League vs Teen Titans, Justice League Dark, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract, Suicide Squad Hell to Pay, The Death of Superman, Constantine: City of Demons, Reign of Supermen, Batman: Hush, Wonder Woman: Blood Lines, and Justice League Dark: Apokalips War.
I know Joe talked about wanting things to look the same. All of those were part of an animated DC world that all interconnected. Movies like Batman: Year One, Batman Dark Knight Returns were just meant as one offs. Fun to do and not really connected.
They brought this animated world to an end (there's lots of reasons why) and started a new animated world with Superman: Man of Tomorrow. These are the current animated films since mid to late 2020.
Now that they've started this series, they NEED to finish it. This is one of the good series where everything comes together.
@@zaqmackraken673 I hope they watch Batman Ninja, if they haven't yet.
There are 3 timelines in this movie.
The movie starts in the original timeline where the Justice League is at their peak, being awesome and heroic.
Then Barry saves his mom, creating the bad timeline where most of the rest of the movie takes place.
Then Barry stops himself from changing the past, but as Thawne explained, the mere act of traveling through time creates distortions so even though Barry undid his original change there were things that were still altered when he broke the time barrier which brings us to the 3rd timeline where the movie ends and the rest of the movies in the DCAMU continuity take place. The ending scene chronologically takes place towards the end of the DCAMU series.
Interesting and very important fact about Eobard Thawne (Reverse Flash) that the movie didn't cover:
Thawne comes from the future so he time travels a lot and he's actually the best at time traveling among all speedsters in the comics, when Barry was traveling back to save his mom Thawne was also doing the same thing and since Barry change the timeline while Thawne was outside of it he became a living paradox, Thawne had became a being whithout a past, present or future, he actually dies several times in the comics but he always comes back because he's the only being that doesn't have any continuity
I dont know if someone else answered this but Thomas Waynes wife became the Joker.
It's the reason the Joker isn't dead yet. She's the only one he keeps trying to save but watching Bruce get murdered literaly broke her mind.
so at 16:55 I gotta tell you, they are both Aqualad. The first Aqualad was Garth, the pale one with purple eyes, he's a founding member of the Teen Titans. The black Aqualad is Kaldur'am, the second aqualad. The red(?) haired girl is Tula, Aquagirl, and the guy with the trident was Orm/Ocean Master, Aquaman's half brother.
So a bit of backstory on the source material of this movie.
“Flashpoint” is a 2011 story written by Geoff johns that is a semi-sequel to “Flash Rebirth: the return of Barry Allen” and it was suppose to be a regular time traveling adventure with Barry but DC decided to reboot their universe (again) after 25 years of continuity, to import all their vertigo & wildcats characters into the main universe, and to gain new readers leading to the NEW 52 era. So “flashpoint” would be the catalyst of the new reboot universe. (Later on it would be confirm that there were other in-lore factors were involved with the reboot)
The New 52 continuity would end up being successful (with Batman, justice league, & Wonder Woman) yet controversial at the same time (with Superman, teen titans, & green arrow).
This movie in particular was originally just an adaptation for “flashpoint” but WB took it a step further and create a series of movies (about 15 movies) set in a continuity fans dubbed “the new 52 movie universe” or the DCAMU that starts with Justice league: War and ends with Justice League Dark: apocalypse war.
The monster on the boat when death stroke & the Atlanteans were fighting was Clayface.
The one with blonde hair & red mask is grifter from wildcats. Created by Jim Lee who would later bring his characters to DC.
The laser eye helmet man working for aquaman is Black manta. A full human mercenary Typically aquaman’s arch enemy.
Also Aquaman looks a lot like Brock lesnar.
20:53 It does exist (the Thomas Wayne Batman story in which he fights Martha Joker, I mean). And it’s quite a good read too.
In the comic, when Barry went back to save his mom, thawn was outside the timestream, which is why he wasn’t affected and remembered everything. Because he was outside the timestream when the change happened he became a paradox himself and basically became immortal
Hell yeah! They're doing the DCAMU, this is gonna be awesome. I hope they do all 16 films
I'm here for them all! My favorite is Justice League Dark: Apokolips War but that'll take time to get to. :)
@@jRoy7I feel like it was a great film in isolation but in terms of an end of universe event it was a bit...well it erased everything and started from scratch while butchering the characters I've grown up with.
Which mind you is very comic accurate but if you have the ability to wrap up your universe unlike the comics and you do it like that, can't say I'm a fan.
@@SWAHswah-tm7sn Hey now no spoilers. :)
I would like to watch it, but I must say I prefer DCAU over New 52 (even if some movies from New 52 are really good)
@@jahu5440 i hear that but my favorite DC animated universe is the Young Justice universe
If you read the comic, where the Joker asks Batman "What happens to Bruce?" Batman says "He takes after his father." Jokers says " He's a Doctor?", Batman " No". Joker " Oh God!"
thats why Thomas Wayne was Negan in that BvS movie.....the Bat man
In the comic Batman takes a sword and stabs thawne through the chest with it, which I think is cooler than just shooting him
And this is why the Flash is adverse to using his super speed to change time.
Flashpoint was a massive butterfly effect comic event, where many of the DC heroes' lives lead a different path of life. Much of the legacy of Flashpoint lives on still in comics, Thomas Wayne's Batman has appeared a few times (sometimes from an evil timeline, Martha Wayne's Joker had a bit more in the comics but she died) and the letter he sent left another unique item that set up another big crossover event, it was also a way for DC to soft reboot the universe into the 'New 52', which like most 'new' iterations didn't quite have the same popularity as the original.
Barry's origin is quite airtight, but at the same time it's worth pointing out that Barry is the _second_ Flash. The original Flash was Jay Garrick, the Flash is also a whole family of heroes too, Barry's successor and current Flash is Wally West, who was said by Barry himself to be the fastest of them all.
Oh there are comics and movies of Vampire Batman this just isn't one of them. Vampires and Zombies ended up being big comic events for Marvel (Zombies and Blood Hunt) and DC (DCeased and DC vs Vampires) in the past few years.
Steve Trevor is one of Wonder Woman's primary love interests, which is why it's visceral that she just ups and hangs him with the Lasso of Truth. More brutal is just gutting a child! Billy is the main Shazam but Shazam (aka Captain Marvel, until of course Marvel went into dispute) is actually a group of heroes, Flashpoint shifted it that rather than individuals they all Captain Planet it.
Not Aqualad is Garth aka Tempest, he was Aqualad for a bit too, usual Aquaman enemies Black Manta and Ocean Master were also there. We also had Clayface and Vixen on Luthor's side in the battle between Atlantis and Luthor's guard. 'Lava Guy' is Captain Atom (not to be confused with The Atom, who is like Ant Man in that he shrinks), an insanely overpowered hero, like Atom Eve levels. The Green Lantern in the box is the Lantern that crashes to Earth and finds Hal Jordan, giving him his power ring so he can become Green Lantern.
Grifter is different to Red Hood, he's part of the WildC.A.T.s, DC acquired his IP (same with Captain Atom, different IPs though), they had a tv show in the 90s.
Shazam's/ Captain Marvel's* transformation ability changes every now and then. Sometimes, it's only one person (usually Billy Batson, the kid you saw get "offed" by Wonder Woman), sometimes it's more than one.
*Captain Marvel's name was changed in more recent media to Shazam to avoid confusion with a certain OTHER comic book company.
Aqua Man is a beast. After the Super Friends show completely made him a total joke, DC has been trying really hard to turn him awesome. From his depiction in this movie to getting Jason Momoa to play him in a movie.
I did not notice before how quick Barry is about the fixing things after just having a short moment with his mother. Like, there is a lack of natural reluctancy, that I didn't notice before. However, this world was dying anyways, so it's not it unbelievable for Barry to fix this because her mother wouldn't live there.
Curious things about this: Here, it just looks like things went back to normal at the end of the movie, but in the comics, while that horrible timeline was corrected, the DC universe didn't went back to its previous state, instead morphed into some similar, but with some differences (used as a reboot)
So in the comics this was a universal reboot point for DC where they tried relaunching most of their characters back to Square one except some of the more popular ones at the time like Batman and Green Lantern. It's what was known as "The New 52" as they relaunched 52 titles. Some of those titles included characters from previously unconnected comic Universes like the Wildstorm Universe's Grifter who started out as part of Jim Lee's WildC.A.T.s. Jim Lee was Chief Creative Officer so there was a lot of his original characters folded in.
I have seen this movie so many times, but I also own the graphic novel so a lot happens. I’m glad y’all are watching this 😊
Martha Wayne in this universe becomes the Joker.
(At 6:45) Not surprising considering this "speed demon"… killed Barry's mother.
"Why do people not talk about these movies?"
First off, I KNOW RIGHT? I LOVED watching these as they were coming. But there's several factors one can assume. For starters, these were happening alongside the Snyderverse, which WB promoted like nothing else, and also were very mixed in reactions, so people were just talking about those instead of watching this universe. Which is a shame because i do dare to argue these are just as good as anything from the peak era of the MCU.
I'm doing a hard sale here, but i guarantee anyone interested in these movies, that you won't regret watching this entire universe, these were indeed awesome films.
Omg im so excited you guys are doing these movies! They're so good! I was sad when max started removing some of them. My bf and I watched all of them though. Cannot wait to rewatch!
When it comes to Shazam, normally its just 1 kid - Billy Batson - who say's the word "Shazam" and transforms into the hero, endowed with the powers of various greek gods. But here in Flashpoint, Billy only recieved 1 letter of the magic word from the Wizard, and his siblings got 1 letter each, which requires them to all be together and say "Shazam" to transform as they each represent one of the gods that grants Shazam his powers.
They were too scared to become Shazam (Captain Thunder in this universe) again because the last time they did, Wonder Woman nearly killed them, hence the scarring on Captain Thunders face when they do transform.
Thawne is a special kind of petty. Honestly, he's the only character in any media who's his special kind of petty. The lengths he'll go to is ABSURD. It's even absurd in the original comics too; maybe even a little more.
I'd actually recommend the comics if you want a really good Flash story; The Flashpoint Comics I mean.
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That was indeed Mera.
16:28 - Clayface, a Batman villain.
16:39 - Orm/Oceanmaster, Aquaman's brother. The two guys behind him are the two Aqualads Garth and Kaldur'ahm [sp?]
21:41 - Captain Atom--name as it says on the tin. Overloading him with energy is a very bad idea.
I believe the comics source of The Flashpoint Paradox has a series on Thomas Wayne becoming Batman. His wife, Martha, went mad after the death of their son and became the Flashpoint world's version of the Joker. There's apparently another timeline where Thomas became Batman when both his son and wife were killed.
It's also pretty cold that Wonder Woman killed Steve Trevor when he's her love interest in canon.
I look forward to your reactions to the DC Animated Movie Universe.
Shazam is not a multi-character. It takes one kids to be the Wizard's Champion. The reason why there were more than once is that Shazam shared his powers with his foster family.
Grifter was originally part of Image Wildstorm Comics (WildCATs, Stormwatch, The Authority, Gen 13 etc.) DC used Flashpoint to incorporate a number of characters when DC acquired the company
The Animated movie, "Suicide Squad Hell - To - Pay" finishes the story with Thawne
here's a fun tidbit. this movie is the very catalyst for the inter-connected DCAU movies for the next 10 years. starting of with Justice League War. and ending with the Bloody Brutal Finale Justice League Dark: Apokalips.
Barry’s backstory is his mom was murdered, and his dad was framed for it
YES! This is my favorite DC animated film. The what if scenario is tight fit, believable and amaizng
Saying “Superman needs a better costume” with it being the greatest super suit of all time is wild
It is the most iconic, I’ll grant you that, but best is highly subjective. I think Spider-Man is a better design, at least his default costume. There’s tons of cool and lame costumes in comics.
Reverse Flash can't really be killed, he's messed with time so often and became the cause of so many effects that led to him and effectively erased his own existence multiple times by traveling to another time so he never stops existing just because there was no cause to create him that he essentially exists outside of time. Like it's crazy how convoluted his existence and their battles become, technically Barry was the lightning bolt that gave him his own powers because of it.
His hatred of Barry ties them so strongly that he's admitted he was the cause of every source of bad luck that Barry's ever had, like literally every time he tripped and skinned a knee or was tardy for class that was Reverse Flash' doing just to be petty (That was me, Barry. I jerked you off at superspeed so it seemed like you came from only a woman's touch!) He doesn't kill Flash either, especially not young Flash, because he's the _only_ thing tying RF to existence now.
In DC, unlike Marvel, the universes reset ever so often. Crisis on Infinite Earths and Flashpoint are the two most popular examples of it. This led into The New 52 era starting 2011, so the next movies in this universe are adaptations of those stories. There are adaptatioms of more classic stories mixed in as well, because the New 52 didn't completely abandon original canon, there was a theme of if a new comic nentioned an old one, it was still a canon story in the new universe.
Technically this Thrawne can die... its touched on in the second animated Suicide Squad movie "Hell to Pay"
Very much enjoying you guys watching these . They did such a better job adapting the comics in these then any live action in a lot of peoples eyes . Your gonna like the rest for sure .
Of course, maybe Sorta Stupid we wathing Batmen vs Dracula
Ah, I'm so happy to see this. One of my favorite pieces of DC media. Even have the compendium of all the comics that were part of this
This is the start of something very epic. Make sure you guys watch the movies in order it makes more sense that way 😊
there's actually solo comic book separate from main flashpoint storyline about this version of batman you guys will love it
Idk if it's already in the plans, but y'all really need to check out "Justice League Dark"! It explores more of the occult and supernatural elements of the universe through, what is effectively, an offshoot team. It's one of my favorites! Also "Constantine: City of Demons"!
Oh, and if you want a couple more shows, "Doom Patrol" and "Swamp Thing" are great! Both should be on Max.
DCAMU. DCAU is much different. That era was an awesome time
1:30 Barry has always kinda been the focal point for all the universes.
Mostly because he is one of the few dc characters that can change the timeline through time travel in turn creating a new branching universes. So yea most of the time Barry’s story is always the same.
By the way this is the first film in a span of 15 dc animated films. All beginning and ending with the flash
36:00 not quite the flash is so much faster than Superman. There have been multiple comics where Superman and the flash have raced with different outcomes some even being full blown public charity events.
But to quote the flash himself,
“Those were for charity, Clark” as he breaks the sound barrier
The flash lets Superman win those race sometimes for charity event and to just have fun but when it comes down to life and death Superman can’t hope to catch up with him.
That line was from a comic where flash had to give up his life to protect his universe but Superman pleads with him and tries to stop him saying that they will find another way. As Superman is neck and neck with him Barry drops that banger of a line and rushes past him
14:48 knowing the Joker in the alternate time line is Martha Wayne is amazing. Dc fans do talk about these movies and the live action/animated tv shows because they are awesome, Marvel may be better at live action movies on the big screen but Dc rules the small screen. 31:36 fun fact when Batman was first created he did actually use guns they changed it over time.