Shredder did something in this movie that comic villains rarely do. He prepared for round two with Batman. He upgraded his claws, forced the fight onto awkward terrain, and immediately targeted his utility belt.
Batman knows more styles and may have mastered them but theres levels to it. Where as Shredder is fully focused in his, thus has access fo hidden arts where batman hasnt had the time to go that far or the trust to get those secrets. So yeah Shredder could hold his own.
The Giant Penny Lore: In the early comics, Batman fought a villain known as the Penny Plunderer who planned to squash Batman with said giant coin. He failed obviously and Batman kept the giant penny as a trophy.
Well, here's the interesting thing because the penty plunderer is such an unknown villain in the great Batman Mythos that the giant penny is often contributed to either the Joker or Two-Face instead Even in the modern Comics Gives credit To Joker or two face
One of the greatest crossovers ever. I love Batman's interactions with the turtles, how they have opposing personalities, but are so similar in a lot of ways. Batman vs. Shedder is the fight I never knew I needed, and the mutant forms Batman's rogue's galery takes are really cool.
To answer their question, yes, New York does still exist in DC. DC has every real location exist, countries, cities, monuments, while also having all of their fictional ones as well. It’s actually to the point that when DC and Marvel had crossovers in the past, it was confirmed that DCs Earth is slightly bigger than Marvels to accommodate all the extra locations.
wait doesnt victor van doom have an entire country or something? also wakanda. or does the dc universe have lots of extra countries too? when i think of dc locations i just remember lots of cities (gotham, metropolis, gorilla city...), except maybe wonderwomans island.
@@proclarushtaonasat Yeah, Marvel has some places like that for themselves, but DC just has way more. They’ve got places like Themyscira, Markovia, Kahndaq, Bialya, Rheelasia, Kasnia, Kor, Qurac, Zandia, Vlatava, Zambesi, plus several dozen extra cities like Gotham, Metropolis, Central City, Star City, Coast City, Hub City, Gateway City, Amnasty Bay, Blüdhaven, Dakota, Fawcett, Keystone, Midway, Opal City, National City, Smallville, Gorilla City, and just a ton more of both I didn’t mention, that’s just what I can remember off the top of my head. Marvel keeps most of their characters localised to New York most of the time and the characters introduced outside of that exist mostly in real world places, whereas DC has created tons of extra Cities and Countries for many of their heroes and villains, while also having many live in real world places.
Fun fact, the Superman mug probably wasn't a gift from Clark or anyone. Once in main comic book line, kid that Batman rescued said that superman is his favourite superhero, batman then said and: ''I'll get you off on a secret, hes my favourite too''
I figured that Bruce just owned the rights to the manufacturing of the Justice League's merchandise through shell companies. Gives the Justice League members some passive income, helps the operational cost of the Justice League, or if members ask they donate the proceeds to charity. So he probably just had one on hand from his factories.
2:10 Bat Girl is Barbara Gordon (Oracle eventually) and is Comitioner Gordon's daughter. Kate Kane is Batwoman. 38:09 There are 4 Robins. Richard (Dick) Grayson (Night Wing eventually), Jason Todd (Red Hood eventually) , Tim Drake and Damian Wayne. The robin in this movie is Damian. He is Bruce's blood son. His mother is Talia Al Ghul and she is Ra's Al Ghuls daughter.
33:52 the scene of Bane trying to break Donnie's shell actually had me hold my breath for a second when I first watched it, because all I could think of was that 1. Bane has broken Batman's back before and 2. Donnie's shell HAS been broken by Rocksteady before in one of the comics (though, to be fair, Rocksteady had used a sledgehammer, not his knee XD)
I was concerned too considering the times of Donnie’s shell and bane’s iconic action, especially since compared to irl turtles the shells are attached to their spines (I always expect it to be the worst case, but they never acknowledge that about turtles in fiction)
So to answer your guys' question on Robin its simple. In this movie it's Damian Wayne. Who is the biological son of Batman and the newest robin. You can usually tell by his personality and more ninja looking suit. Dick(Nightwing) was first who usually as robin has no pants.He is the robin in Batman the animated series, teen titans and young justice. Jason(Red Hood) usually has a more red and yellow suit as compared to Dick's Green and red. And Tim is usually a mix between Jason and Dick's suit ergo with pants.Appears in batman the animated series and young justice He is also the smartest but isn't used as often as the others. But yes this is Damian and he is basically a trained assassin hence the personality.
FYI... Daredevil and TMNT SHARE their backstory. That mutagen that blinded Matt also turned Turtles into Mutants. It's canon, somewhat. But their universes ARE different. Then again, the Marvel DC had crossovers as well, and they were wild AF.
We need to see the other Robins take on Bebop and Rocksteady, and if at all possible I wanna see master Splinter and Batman just having a conversation.
And that we may not get it now since the DCAU is being jerked around by the new higherups at WB animation. I think the upcoming Crisis part 3 is supposed to be the last of the current brand of DCAU direct to DVD movies :(
I hope they make a sequel eventually, even if Nickelodeon takes THE FULL REIGN. At least we'd get an awesome crossover with Bebop, Rocksteady, Kraang, etc
In Teen Titans it's Dick Grayson, the first Robin, who became Nightwing In Under The Red Hood it's Jason Todd, the second Robin Here, it's Damien Wayne, the fourth/fifth Robin, depending on the continuity (I don't know if Stephanie was really retconned) I really recommend watching the video called The Entire History of Batman, because it explores Batman comic history through continuities
That video the Entire History of batman isn't accurate. It straight up lies about some major things. Steph is the 4th Robin. DAmian [it's an A not an E] is the 5th
I think Stephanie is a "futue Robin". I remember seeing her in the movies (based on the comics) where Bruce/Batman is somewhere around 60-70 years old (and freakin' HUGE) and been retired (as Batman) for, something like 10 years because supers/heros that don't kowtow to the government are illegal. But he comes back because crime, mostly by the "Mutant Gang", is getting out of control.
@@jeremydyck2601 That movie is called Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, and no That "future" Robin would Carrie Kelley Stephanie Brown is a whole different character Stephanie was originally The Spoiler, but for a brief moment became Robin, and then the second Batgirl, after Barbara
"Do they still all have their own powers?" I mean... most of them don't really have any kind of special power except for sometimes immunity against certain poisons or in Freeze's case, the cold. They all get their abilities from certain gadgets or other stuff they create themselves. With some exceptions of course.
Yeah, it's been changed from story to story, but modern consensus seems to put Gotham off the coast of New Jersey, somewhere between New York City and Atlantic City.
I always believed that Metropolis was somewhere close to Smallville, maybe around Chigaco since Bruce needs to fly there. I think Gotham and Metropolis were closer in pre-crisis
@@matthewpopow6647kinda crazy that literally any gotham criminals can go to metropolis and so on, like your telling me zod can just fight batman by sneaking into gotham?
@@lightningjadejavier in theory. But superman villians like zod is unlikely to want something from Gotham (unless the plot demands it). And low level crooks like two-face, penguin and the like wouldn't want to square off against supes. It happens though.
@@jackcrofts-mullin461 Originally Metropolis was based on Cleveland, but that was back when Smallville was in Ohio. As the comic universe expanded, the city took inspiration from Toronto, New York, and Chicago. Gotham originally wasn't even Batman's city, but rather was the home of Green Lantern Alan Scott with Batman just operating out of New York. DC changed this in the Silver Age moving Batman to Gotham and removing real-world cities as places of operation for superheroes moving Batman to the harsh and Lovecraft influenced Gotham, Metropolis got moved to New York, and Green Lantern Hal Jordan was placed in Coast City which was sort of an amalgam of San Diego and San Francisco.
14:09 Which means he's more than capable of fighting the turtles since they are usually all needed to even have a chance at fighting Shredder in most iterations
and they never won on their own anyway. either someone else would intervene, shredder would get conned into defeating himself, or they'd use some magical artifact or special device. its actually wild to think they never actually beat their main villain in a straight up fight because he's just that badass.
The new super young Robin is Damian Wayne, the biological son of Bruce Wayne and Talia Al'Ghuul. He's notoriously aggressive, having been raised to be an assassin by his mother and only recently switching to Bats no-kill style.
38:29 The robin in this movie is Damian Wayne, Bruce's biological son, with Tallia, daughter of Ra's Al Ghul. She raised him until he was 10 years old, and then introduced him to his father, who had no idea he even existed. That's why he is both extremely skilled and also arrogant
11:52 Batman actually first debuted in 1939. However, there is a pretty cool book that has been turned into a mockumentary called "Gotham 1919-1939" that incorporates Batman into the real world during that era. I'd definitely recommend it.
I love how this is the only version of the Turtles where Leo is wearing his katanas in the actual samurai form rather than the Snake Eyes/Deadpool behind-the-back mount. After thousands of battles over hundreds of years, you'd think Ra's Al-Ghuul would've been hit in the crotch at least once.
Baxter stockmen wasn’t a fly in the 2000s he was just a rip a piece by piece torment victim until he was just a brain robot and being destroyed and revived in a near endless cycle
The Batcave's T-Rex comes from "Dinosaur Island," a Golden Age story in which a rich playboy constructs robotic dinosaurs (and cavemen) for patrons to "fight." Batman and Robin are lured into a trap when a gangster conks the playboy and takes control of the robots.
0:34 i May have mentioned these but here’s a reminder my DC movies I recommend. 1: Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1-2 2: Justice League Doom 3: Justice League War 4: Justice League Throne of Atlantis 5: Batman Son of Batman 6: Justice League vs Teen Titans 7: Justice League Judas Contract 8: DC Superpets 9: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker 10: Batman Mask of the Phantasm Also a non DC reminder the Cool Cat movies from Derek Savage. 😃 I can’t wait to see your reactions to those along with Derek Savage’s Gun Safety Movie
Gotham is New Jersey, metropolis is across the bay on the coast of Delaware, often synonymous with the central island of New Troy, but the entire city also encompasses the boroughs of Queensland Park, Park Ridge, and Bakerline. That’s about how specific location wise those too are I mean metropolis can get inconsistent some times on location
So here are the top 5 DC series I would recommend: Batman The Animated Series Superman The Animated Series Batman Beyond Justice League/ Justice League Unlimited Static Shock
Quick explanation for the underwear over the suit: batman is designed like that because he is partially inspired by the first superhero, superman. Superman is designed like that because he is visually inspired by circus strongmen, which kids from 1938 would be familiar with. Strong men back then would show off their mucsles, but had to wear full body skin-tight tights to do so, because being shirtless was considered basically naked back then. The tights didnt leave much to the imagination, so they would wear trunks over the top of the tights. So, to show that superman was super strong, they put him in a strong man outfit, but more colorful to catch people's attention and with a cape to show motion. This set the standard for superhero outfits, so batman did the same thing, but bat themed. Also, that sort of means it's more accurate to say batman is wearing booty shorts over his costume. Do with that information what you will
The Robin in the movie is actually his biological son. Ra’s is his grandfather. The kids name is Damian and he’s the fifth Robin, surprisingly some folks forget that there was a girl Robin that didn’t stick around that long, so some assume there were only four. She was around for like a few months before some mess happened.
4 Main Robins: Dick Greyson, OG, Becomes Knightwing Jason Todd, Dies, Resurrects and becomes Red Hood Tim Drake, Best Detective of the Robins, Becomes Red Robin Damian Wayne, the son of Bruce by Blood, Mother is Talia daughter of Ra's al Ghul, raised as an assassin, then Bruce gets him and slowly works out his violent tendencies, started as the youngest Robin yet.
This is one of those movies where a lot of people probably passed because they read "Batman vs The Ninja Turtles" and thought it was gonna be just a gimmick movie, but when you watch it, it's actually really fun and entertaining. I also didn't know how badly I needed Batman vs Shredder until I got it. Unironically one of my favorite TMNT movies. Also, I'd look up the watch order for the animated films because admittably they do have a lot of both standalone and connected films/shows including the DCAU (my personal favorite), the The DCMU (DC Movie Universe), and another one they're currently working on. It's a lot, but I'm sure the fans will walk you guys through it.
@8:33 Yeah this ain’t Disney PG-13 (where it’s basically PG, but at some point a character will say one swear word and now the movie made the minimum requirement for necessary to be considered PG-13); no this is “PG-13” PG-13. All the blood and violence you could want, just no swearing, no sex/nudity, and no dismemberment/disemboweling.
In BTAS the giant coin was a part of a ploy to off the Batman by Two Face. He had him tied on it, batman escaped, got two face arrested, kept the penny as a relic.
if they would do it, i say just go in order starting with batman the animated series. it's all connected anyway, and most of the plot for the two justice league series was following up on events from the end of superman the animated series.
6:15 Fun fact: The Penguin thug with the green spiked mohawk is a nod to the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon. He looks like Krangs robotic body. 😊
on voices here: the voice of batman and joker here are the same ones from batman arkham origins. this caused a stir being the whole "why didnt they get kevin conroy and mark hamill!!!" when the game was announced and trailers were shown. well fucks better get used to this with kevin gone and mark officially confirm he is done voicing joker. so these two voices may become the new mains for batman and joker in most dc animated stuff in coming years. edit: nvm, the voice of batman and joker here is done by 1 person, troy baker, in arkham origins troy voices joker but for batman in that game it was roger craig smith.
Love how when Leo beats Ra’s he just knocks him out with some magicish tricks, but when Batman beat shedder he BEAT HIS ASS, like bro hit him while he was falling
This one seems to be a stand alone Gotham but Tom Kenny has played Penguin before in the “The Batman” canon. Speaking of, that show had a movie where he takes the actual Dracula and it’s one of the sickest things ever
I remember one of the DC writers saying long ago that Metropolis is NYC during the day and Gotham was NYC during the night. Over the decades it’s become a hodgepodge of NYC, Detroit and Chicago.
Tom Kenny aka SpongeBob voices Penguin in the film he also voiced him in The Batman 2004 series & The Batman vs Dracula movie, Plastic Man in the Batman: The Brave and the Bold animated series in 08, and Doc Ock in the Ultimate Spider-Man series.
This was already a pretty full cast of characters, so adding in Dick, Jason, and Tim probably would've just bloated the story. Although I do agree, it would've been fun to see the brother dynamics of the Robins mix with the Turtles.
@@sword3349I know Batman is the selling point, but how cool would it be for the sequel to be the reverse of this movie. Aka the Batbros minus Batman and Batgirl go to New York to deal with shredder, just like the Turtles went to Gotham without their mentor and April. We would have a smaller cast and still have the different siblings dynamics
Lol in the comics crossover that this movie was based off of, they establish that the DC Universe is completely separate from whatever universe the Turtles are from. This movie basically did away with any multiverse shenanigans and just treated this universe as being inhabited by both Batman and the Turtles. They even have a meta joke where Mikey is super stoked about visiting Gotham City, only for Donnie to say: "They're pretty much the same city." In DC Comics, for the most part, their fictional cities/locations do exist alongside real-world cities/locations. Though, Gotham City has traditionally been treated as kind of the "New York" or "New Jersey" of the DC Universe. Straight up, this movie is AWESOME. Such a great love letter to both the TMNT and Batman franchises, with great action and character moments, as well as plenty of easter eggs and in-jokes for the fans.
Honestly one of the best crossovers. Any 80's kid who played with their Batman and Ninja Turtles action figures together yearned to see this happen. It took about 30-plus years, but it didn't disappoint. Batman vs. Shredder is such a highlight, and I love how evenly matched their fighting skills are. It's not really canon to anything, but there are lots of little nods and references to both IP's lore in the comics, movies, toys, and video games.
(At 32:38) Y'all can't tell the difference between a Leopard and a Jaguar? Though this Bane is not like the crossover one of the comics, on that one he still had the venom steroids AND he muted into an Elephant. But yeah Bane mutating into a Jaguar instead of an Elephant, that's kind of a letdown.
@Samgreen90 the original cartoon's explanation of the mutagen is that it combined you with whatever animal you had been in most recent contact with. It is possible that in Bane had a stray hair of a jaguar in his mask.
@@DemitriVladMaximov I guess that makes a little sense. Some of them might be in contact with whatever animals they are around and some of them might take on the form of whatever animals that would "resemble" their appearance before making contact.
@@Samgreen90 Yeah and then they pulled that T-Rex one which doesn't follow any rules as it wouldn't just be a dinosaur with clothing but a dinosaur human hybrid similar to Extreme Dinosaurs or Dinosaucers. So I'm not sure what rules they were going with in that case. But yeah if the ooze is green then usually it follows the comic and live action movie rules and if it is purple then it usually follows the original comic rules. Not always, but most of the time.
Love this movie! So good!!! Also this robin is the 4th: Damian, who is usually the dark Robin and is Batman's actual son Jason Todd was the 2nd: red hood Dick who's in titans is the 1st: nightwing after leaving robin role Then Tim drake who's the 3rd and sadly doesn't get much screen time 😊
A fun crossover movie based of one of many times the turtles and Bats have crossed over (like seriously Bats and the Turtles get around; Power Rangers, Alien, Predator, Godzilla, Ghostbusters, Dracula, He-Man, X-Files, Elmer Fudd, these are all real) Mikey is hilarious. It's separate from the animated series but the art style is fairly like The Batman tv series, but not its character designs. No no, Batgirl and Batwoman have always been two different entities: Batgirl is typically Barbara Gordon - daughter of Commissioner Gordon, the outfit she wears in this movie is her 'burnside' outfit, more practically made, was very popular - she also went by Oracle as a 'person in the chair' kinda character, but probably should know about Killing Joke to learn why. Batwoman is typically Kate Kane nowadays, debuting in 2006 after comics reused the mantle from Kathy Kane's iteration between the 60s-80s (funnily enough, Kathy's Batwoman was a love interest to Bruce to stop the gay allegations against Batman because, again, it was the 60s), Bruce's cousin on his mother's side, her suit looks more like Bruce's though her origins are less connected to the Bat Family than Barbara's, also one of DC's most prominent LGBT superheroes. Okay: Giant Penny! Alfred's fault. He suggested that Bruce kept mementos of past successes; originally it was something a low-tier villain called the Penny Plunderer tried to steal, in Zero Year it was retconned to be used to defeat the Riddler, BTAS attests it to Two-Face, but the giant penny tends to be an art piece Bruce just goes 'ima take this' and nobody thought twice about Batman carrying a giant penny out. Young Robin - meet Damian Wayne, fifth and most current iteration. Bruce's bio baby with Talia al Ghul, so Ra's al Ghul's grandson, trained mostly as a feral assassin boy but now under the Bat Family's watch to be a less stabby vigilante, but still feral. Probably the second edgiest Robin just behind Jason Todd, but he still has time...and he respawned quicker. In most timeskip comics since he does take up the mantle of Batman. Many Bat-villains are doctors; Strange and Harley are psychiatrist doctors, while Ivy and Freeze are science doctors We've still yet to get the sequel, which leaves the potential of jokerized Shredder still up in the air.
Shredder did something in this movie that comic villains rarely do. He prepared for round two with Batman. He upgraded his claws, forced the fight onto awkward terrain, and immediately targeted his utility belt.
OH SHIT I just realised, yeah the claws are upgraded good spot
And he is one of the few, who really hold his ground against Batman. That proves, how good the Shredder is trained in Martial Arts
He clearly beat Batman. Raphael had to step in to save Batman
Batman knows more styles and may have mastered them but theres levels to it. Where as Shredder is fully focused in his, thus has access fo hidden arts where batman hasnt had the time to go that far or the trust to get those secrets. So yeah Shredder could hold his own.
They finally gave someone besides Batman prep time.
The Giant Penny Lore:
In the early comics, Batman fought a villain known as the Penny Plunderer who planned to squash Batman with said giant coin. He failed obviously and Batman kept the giant penny as a trophy.
But wasn't that retconned to be from a Two-Face battle?
@@highfivers5062that was just in the DCAU
Batman keeps a lot of trophies don't he?
But btas they had an episode with two face where once bats beat him gcpd let batman keep the penny
Well, here's the interesting thing because the penty plunderer is such an unknown villain in the great Batman Mythos that the giant penny is often contributed to either the Joker or Two-Face instead Even in the modern Comics Gives credit To Joker or two face
One of the greatest crossovers ever. I love Batman's interactions with the turtles, how they have opposing personalities, but are so similar in a lot of ways. Batman vs. Shedder is the fight I never knew I needed, and the mutant forms Batman's rogue's galery takes are really cool.
You are right about all of this.
Joker as a cobra fits way too well.
I especially love how Batman and Leo have a sort of mutual respect for each other by the end.
You said it, brother.
I agree
38:00 that’s Damian… he’s been raised by the league of assassins… batman didn’t train him to fight he trained him to hold back
And Ra's is his grandfather
To answer their question, yes, New York does still exist in DC. DC has every real location exist, countries, cities, monuments, while also having all of their fictional ones as well. It’s actually to the point that when DC and Marvel had crossovers in the past, it was confirmed that DCs Earth is slightly bigger than Marvels to accommodate all the extra locations.
wait doesnt victor van doom have an entire country or something? also wakanda. or does the dc universe have lots of extra countries too? when i think of dc locations i just remember lots of cities (gotham, metropolis, gorilla city...), except maybe wonderwomans island.
@@proclarushtaonasat Yeah, Marvel has some places like that for themselves, but DC just has way more. They’ve got places like Themyscira, Markovia, Kahndaq, Bialya, Rheelasia, Kasnia, Kor, Qurac, Zandia, Vlatava, Zambesi, plus several dozen extra cities like Gotham, Metropolis, Central City, Star City, Coast City, Hub City, Gateway City, Amnasty Bay, Blüdhaven, Dakota, Fawcett, Keystone, Midway, Opal City, National City, Smallville, Gorilla City, and just a ton more of both I didn’t mention, that’s just what I can remember off the top of my head. Marvel keeps most of their characters localised to New York most of the time and the characters introduced outside of that exist mostly in real world places, whereas DC has created tons of extra Cities and Countries for many of their heroes and villains, while also having many live in real world places.
also! gotham is in new jersey iirc.
@@ajtalbi7410Isn’t Metropolis also in New Jersey since it and Gotham are sister cities?
@@ryanhoule4415 Metropolis is supposedly in Delaware, across Delaware Bay from Gotham City in Jersey.
Fun fact, the Superman mug probably wasn't a gift from Clark or anyone.
Once in main comic book line, kid that Batman rescued said that superman is his favourite superhero, batman then said and:
''I'll get you off on a secret, hes my favourite too''
Superman wouldn't give Batman a gift like that. Clark's not a douche bag. That would be a gift from Alfred or Dick Grayson
I figured that Bruce just owned the rights to the manufacturing of the Justice League's merchandise through shell companies. Gives the Justice League members some passive income, helps the operational cost of the Justice League, or if members ask they donate the proceeds to charity. So he probably just had one on hand from his factories.
@@chinyereugwu9431 Superman should give Batman that new super computer. Since you know Kara destroyed the last one.
I thought it was a gag joke from Dick at first
@@callmejacob3234on a journalists pay check.
2:10 Bat Girl is Barbara Gordon (Oracle eventually) and is Comitioner Gordon's daughter. Kate Kane is Batwoman.
38:09 There are 4 Robins. Richard (Dick) Grayson (Night Wing eventually), Jason Todd (Red Hood eventually) , Tim Drake and Damian Wayne. The robin in this movie is Damian. He is Bruce's blood son. His mother is Talia Al Ghul and she is Ra's Al Ghuls daughter.
When did Cassie become Batwoman?
the info about Damian being batmans biological son and Ra's Al Ghuls grandson.
A good intro to Batgirl/Robin is in the original Batman and The Batman 2004 series.
I thought Kate Kane was Batwoman and Cass was Orphan?
Kate Kane Is Batwoman. I haven't kept up with the DC comics but I am 100% sure Kate Kane is Batwoman
33:52 the scene of Bane trying to break Donnie's shell actually had me hold my breath for a second when I first watched it, because all I could think of was that 1. Bane has broken Batman's back before and 2. Donnie's shell HAS been broken by Rocksteady before in one of the comics (though, to be fair, Rocksteady had used a sledgehammer, not his knee XD)
I was concerned too considering the times of Donnie’s shell and bane’s iconic action, especially since compared to irl turtles the shells are attached to their spines (I always expect it to be the worst case, but they never acknowledge that about turtles in fiction)
"Is Baxter Stockman a fly in every version?"
Me: Nope. . .he got it MUCH worse in the 2003 version.
Kinda his own fault for not knowing when to just shut up. Like the man looooves saying I told you so to a guy that loves to tear off limbs
To be fair the final result was definitely bug-like. He just went the robot route instead of the mutation route in that universe lol
Baxter Stockman in almost every version: become fly
Baxter Stockman in 2003: attract flies
The Shredder on the 2003 version would remove parts of Stockman's body as punishment for his own failures.
It’s honestly so surprising how much 4kids let them get away with them taking out baxters limbs 🤣
“Well probably get violence but we won’t get blood”
Foot ninja gets head open with shuriken
I mean there IS a censored version, but glad they watched the uncut version
Right? I was waiting for their reaction to that scene. HEHE. Even for a PG-13 movie from the mid-2010s, that was kind of shocking.
@@sethraelthebard5459 It came out pretty much in 2020
So to answer your guys' question on Robin its simple. In this movie it's Damian Wayne. Who is the biological son of Batman and the newest robin. You can usually tell by his personality and more ninja looking suit. Dick(Nightwing) was first who usually as robin has no pants.He is the robin in Batman the animated series, teen titans and young justice. Jason(Red Hood) usually has a more red and yellow suit as compared to Dick's Green and red. And Tim is usually a mix between Jason and Dick's suit ergo with pants.Appears in batman the animated series and young justice He is also the smartest but isn't used as often as the others. But yes this is Damian and he is basically a trained assassin hence the personality.
Only thing I would add is Damien is Ra's Al Ghul's grandson.
@@amandaandandrewstover3304 Yeah I did forget that. That is pretty important.
He's pretty smart, just arrogant.
Tim is also in TNBA and is the originator of the red and black suit.
*Fun Fact:* The director for this movie is Jake Castorena. He's the same director for the new Xmen 97 series.
Cool didn't know that
FYI... Daredevil and TMNT SHARE their backstory. That mutagen that blinded Matt also turned Turtles into Mutants. It's canon, somewhat.
But their universes ARE different.
Then again, the Marvel DC had crossovers as well, and they were wild AF.
This Robin is Damian Wayne, Batman's son. He was trained by the League of Assassins until Batman got custody.
She rufied Batman.
@@Saiman9000 Grant Morrison got retconed
@@Шуша-е1ж So how was Damien concieved?
@@Saiman9000 it was consensual like in "Son of the demon", but obviously without the whole marriage thing
It’s honestly a crime that there’s no sequel in production yet😢
We need to see the other Robins take on Bebop and Rocksteady, and if at all possible I wanna see master Splinter and Batman just having a conversation.
And that we may not get it now since the DCAU is being jerked around by the new higherups at WB animation. I think the upcoming Crisis part 3 is supposed to be the last of the current brand of DCAU direct to DVD movies :(
Heard they're changing things for new animated movie projects. Gonna be a shame if this is true.
They'd just screw it up with stupid crap if they did it now.
I hope they make a sequel eventually, even if Nickelodeon takes THE FULL REIGN. At least we'd get an awesome crossover with Bebop, Rocksteady, Kraang, etc
"I have to know, I HAVE to know about the Giant Penny."
He got it form Two Face in Batman TAS.
In the comics he got it from the penny plunderer
In Teen Titans it's Dick Grayson, the first Robin, who became Nightwing
In Under The Red Hood it's Jason Todd, the second Robin
Here, it's Damien Wayne, the fourth/fifth Robin, depending on the continuity (I don't know if Stephanie was really retconned)
I really recommend watching the video called The Entire History of Batman, because it explores Batman comic history through continuities
That video the Entire History of batman isn't accurate. It straight up lies about some major things. Steph is the 4th Robin. DAmian [it's an A not an E] is the 5th
I usually count steph because I like her and its funny.
I think Stephanie is a "futue Robin". I remember seeing her in the movies (based on the comics) where Bruce/Batman is somewhere around 60-70 years old (and freakin' HUGE) and been retired (as Batman) for, something like 10 years because supers/heros that don't kowtow to the government are illegal. But he comes back because crime, mostly by the "Mutant Gang", is getting out of control.
@@jeremydyck2601 That movie is called Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, and no
That "future" Robin would Carrie Kelley
Stephanie Brown is a whole different character
Stephanie was originally The Spoiler, but for a brief moment became Robin, and then the second Batgirl, after Barbara
@@Kozladoev You're right, I remember that now. I just always thought there was only one "girl Robin". But then I never got into the comics so...
Damien is 4th robin , Batman is the biological father of him , and his grandfather is ras . Talia is his mother
Damian is the 5th Robin. Steph brown is the 4th
@@chinyereugwu9431 you are correct, I was only really counting the core ones, you can also include Carrie Kelley to that number too
22:09 That Robin is Damian Wayne, son of Batman and Talia al-Ghul, grandson of Ra's al-Ghul
"Do they still all have their own powers?" I mean... most of them don't really have any kind of special power except for sometimes immunity against certain poisons or in Freeze's case, the cold. They all get their abilities from certain gadgets or other stuff they create themselves. With some exceptions of course.
In the first comic gotham was a different dimension, it was a plot point that the turtles could only survive there for a little while
Yeah wasn’t that because the different scientific laws meant that the mutagen that made the turtles sentient/anthropomorphic was wearing off?
@@adamzielke3541 yep the mutagen was diffusing out of their bodies slowly
@@adamzielke3541 yep pretty much they were regressing into regular animals and that was theorised as a best case scenario
First of all, I love that they make Damian look like a human in this., But also, I'm so glad they watched this!
Mikey falling on the step, and the music cutting is comedy genius. 💜 💚 🧡
Even the orchestra's conductor was disappointed in him.
I think it was confirmed that Gotham City is somewhere in the New Jersey area, so Bruce Wayne is canonically a rich Jersey kid.
Yeah, it's been changed from story to story, but modern consensus seems to put Gotham off the coast of New Jersey, somewhere between New York City and Atlantic City.
Works for me
Gotham is usually New Jersey-ish while Metropolis is New York-ish
I always believed that Metropolis was somewhere close to Smallville, maybe around Chigaco since Bruce needs to fly there. I think Gotham and Metropolis were closer in pre-crisis
@@jackcrofts-mullin461it isn't. You just have to cross 1 bridge to get from Metropolis to Gotham.
@@matthewpopow6647kinda crazy that literally any gotham criminals can go to metropolis and so on, like your telling me zod can just fight batman by sneaking into gotham?
@@lightningjadejavier in theory. But superman villians like zod is unlikely to want something from Gotham (unless the plot demands it). And low level crooks like two-face, penguin and the like wouldn't want to square off against supes. It happens though.
@@jackcrofts-mullin461 Originally Metropolis was based on Cleveland, but that was back when Smallville was in Ohio. As the comic universe expanded, the city took inspiration from Toronto, New York, and Chicago. Gotham originally wasn't even Batman's city, but rather was the home of Green Lantern Alan Scott with Batman just operating out of New York. DC changed this in the Silver Age moving Batman to Gotham and removing real-world cities as places of operation for superheroes moving Batman to the harsh and Lovecraft influenced Gotham, Metropolis got moved to New York, and Green Lantern Hal Jordan was placed in Coast City which was sort of an amalgam of San Diego and San Francisco.
This movie is super underrated I wished they made a second part to it
I think they will still hopefully caused they did set it up for a second one at the end
14:09 Which means he's more than capable of fighting the turtles since they are usually all needed to even have a chance at fighting Shredder in most iterations
and they never won on their own anyway. either someone else would intervene, shredder would get conned into defeating himself, or they'd use some magical artifact or special device. its actually wild to think they never actually beat their main villain in a straight up fight because he's just that badass.
The new super young Robin is Damian Wayne, the biological son of Bruce Wayne and Talia Al'Ghuul. He's notoriously aggressive, having been raised to be an assassin by his mother and only recently switching to Bats no-kill style.
38:29 The robin in this movie is Damian Wayne, Bruce's biological son, with Tallia, daughter of Ra's Al Ghul. She raised him until he was 10 years old, and then introduced him to his father, who had no idea he even existed. That's why he is both extremely skilled and also arrogant
"8 years of college, a 3 year residency, & he says *nurse* "
that line is just hilarious to me!
Mr Freeze seeing Raz walk in, immediately sensing drama, and asking to be left alone is such a mood honestly.
"This is where I watched my parents die, Raphael"
"Cowabummer!"
I have all the comics. They are an amazing series.
Man, you guys are in for a real treat if you keep watching DCs animated movies. There are so many absolutely incredible ones.
11:52 Batman actually first debuted in 1939. However, there is a pretty cool book that has been turned into a mockumentary called "Gotham 1919-1939" that incorporates Batman into the real world during that era. I'd definitely recommend it.
10:05 when the fight scene is so good that it actually starts to hurt you
I love how this is the only version of the Turtles where Leo is wearing his katanas in the actual samurai form rather than the Snake Eyes/Deadpool behind-the-back mount.
After thousands of battles over hundreds of years, you'd think Ra's Al-Ghuul would've been hit in the crotch at least once.
Unironically one of the best cartoon crossovers for no reason at all
Now, watch Batman again but with Scooby-Doo Brave & The Bold.
And Brave & The Bold in general.
@@rottenbutter360 Jeff Bennett is an underrated Joker.
Baxter stockmen wasn’t a fly in the 2000s he was just a rip a piece by piece torment victim until he was just a brain robot and being destroyed and revived in a near endless cycle
Giant penny is from a case involved his most evil nemesis, the penny plunderer!
The Batcave's T-Rex comes from "Dinosaur Island," a Golden Age story in which a rich playboy constructs robotic dinosaurs (and cavemen) for patrons to "fight." Batman and Robin are lured into a trap when a gangster conks the playboy and takes control of the robots.
0:34 i May have mentioned these but here’s a reminder my DC movies I recommend.
1: Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1-2
2: Justice League Doom
3: Justice League War
4: Justice League Throne of Atlantis
5: Batman Son of Batman
6: Justice League vs Teen Titans
7: Justice League Judas Contract
8: DC Superpets
9: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
10: Batman Mask of the Phantasm
Also a non DC reminder the Cool Cat movies from Derek Savage. 😃 I can’t wait to see your reactions to those along with Derek Savage’s Gun Safety Movie
Gotham is New Jersey, metropolis is across the bay on the coast of Delaware, often synonymous with the central island of New Troy, but the entire city also encompasses the boroughs of Queensland Park, Park Ridge, and Bakerline. That’s about how specific location wise those too are I mean metropolis can get inconsistent some times on location
tho in the batman and superman animated series its set up that they are far enough apart people usually fly to get from one to the other.
Troy Baker did a good job voicing Batman and the Joker
he also did bothe voices in arkham Origen's
@@torquetheprisonerhe only voiced joker not Batman in origins
So here are the top 5 DC series I would recommend:
Batman The Animated Series
Superman The Animated Series
Batman Beyond
Justice League/ Justice League Unlimited
Static Shock
So basically the DCAU? Checks out.
Fun fact: When animating the Leo vs Raas fight, they thought ‘How would a 16 year old fight Raas as opposed to Batman.’
Kick in the balls
"kick him in the junk" the first thing a teenage boy from the ghetto hears from his Dad when he gets beat up for the first time.
This might be the closest thing to a CN and Nickelodeon crossover movie.
Quick explanation for the underwear over the suit:
batman is designed like that because he is partially inspired by the first superhero, superman. Superman is designed like that because he is visually inspired by circus strongmen, which kids from 1938 would be familiar with. Strong men back then would show off their mucsles, but had to wear full body skin-tight tights to do so, because being shirtless was considered basically naked back then. The tights didnt leave much to the imagination, so they would wear trunks over the top of the tights. So, to show that superman was super strong, they put him in a strong man outfit, but more colorful to catch people's attention and with a cape to show motion. This set the standard for superhero outfits, so batman did the same thing, but bat themed.
Also, that sort of means it's more accurate to say batman is wearing booty shorts over his costume. Do with that information what you will
The Robin in the movie is actually his biological son. Ra’s is his grandfather. The kids name is Damian and he’s the fifth Robin, surprisingly some folks forget that there was a girl Robin that didn’t stick around that long, so some assume there were only four. She was around for like a few months before some mess happened.
4 Main Robins:
Dick Greyson, OG, Becomes Knightwing
Jason Todd, Dies, Resurrects and becomes Red Hood
Tim Drake, Best Detective of the Robins, Becomes Red Robin
Damian Wayne, the son of Bruce by Blood, Mother is Talia daughter of Ra's al Ghul, raised as an assassin, then Bruce gets him and slowly works out his violent tendencies, started as the youngest Robin yet.
This is one of those movies where a lot of people probably passed because they read "Batman vs The Ninja Turtles" and thought it was gonna be just a gimmick movie, but when you watch it, it's actually really fun and entertaining. I also didn't know how badly I needed Batman vs Shredder until I got it. Unironically one of my favorite TMNT movies.
Also, I'd look up the watch order for the animated films because admittably they do have a lot of both standalone and connected films/shows including the DCAU (my personal favorite), the The DCMU (DC Movie Universe), and another one they're currently working on. It's a lot, but I'm sure the fans will walk you guys through it.
"If yohr creative enough you can get away with anything"
Shredder:*litterally impales a guy with blood stained shirt and pretrusions showing*
That's Damion Wayne, not just Robin. Batemans official blood son. Ra's al Ghoul's grand child.
Damian, not Damion
Ah yes my favorite hero, Bateman
@8:33 Yeah this ain’t Disney PG-13 (where it’s basically PG, but at some point a character will say one swear word and now the movie made the minimum requirement for necessary to be considered PG-13); no this is “PG-13” PG-13. All the blood and violence you could want, just no swearing, no sex/nudity, and no dismemberment/disemboweling.
(At 34:24) You think THAT'S horrifying? In the crossover comics, she turned into a mantis.
Compare to Bane, THIS… this is just sad.
In BTAS the giant coin was a part of a ploy to off the Batman by Two Face. He had him tied on it, batman escaped, got two face arrested, kept the penny as a relic.
10:51 This is more like the Ryokoggan from Rob Lucci from One Piece. That dual fist strike that literally just sends the impact through your body.
I love how whenever there's a batman crossover, there's always someone who says something to the effect of "I hate Gotham City"
Punisher for example.
I hope you eventually get into a Batman/justice league animated tv show and watch the whole way through. And there are a bunch to consider
Definitely Justice League Unlimited!
@@KittRembo I'd love for them to do Justice League and then Justice League Unlimited back to back
if they would do it, i say just go in order starting with batman the animated series. it's all connected anyway, and most of the plot for the two justice league series was following up on events from the end of superman the animated series.
5:15 fun fact, the penguin is voiced by Tom Kenny, the same voice actor for SpongeBob
6:15
Fun fact: The Penguin thug with the green spiked mohawk is a nod to the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon. He looks like Krangs robotic body. 😊
on voices here: the voice of batman and joker here are the same ones from batman arkham origins. this caused a stir being the whole "why didnt they get kevin conroy and mark hamill!!!" when the game was announced and trailers were shown.
well fucks better get used to this with kevin gone and mark officially confirm he is done voicing joker. so these two voices may become the new mains for batman and joker in most dc animated stuff in coming years.
edit: nvm, the voice of batman and joker here is done by 1 person, troy baker, in arkham origins troy voices joker but for batman in that game it was roger craig smith.
23:05 thats not just any robin, thats Damien Wayne. Son of batman, grandson of R'as al ghul
Love how when Leo beats Ra’s he just knocks him out with some magicish tricks, but when Batman beat shedder he BEAT HIS ASS, like bro hit him while he was falling
12:51 yea batman came out in 1939 as a part of the regular detective comics line until he got his own series
This one seems to be a stand alone Gotham but Tom Kenny has played Penguin before in the “The Batman” canon. Speaking of, that show had a movie where he takes the actual Dracula and it’s one of the sickest things ever
I remember one of the DC writers saying long ago that Metropolis is NYC during the day and Gotham was NYC during the night.
Over the decades it’s become a hodgepodge of NYC, Detroit and Chicago.
You know what I realized? The Mutagen cured Mr. Freeze of his disease, they honestky should've left him as a bear.
(At 38:17) The fact he's Batman's son THIS is Damian Wayne. The Red Hood, you're thinking about Jason Todd.
Besides Tim maybe. All the Robins are Batman’s sons. Damian is just the only one who ever calls him father.
Tom Kenny aka SpongeBob voices Penguin in the film he also voiced him in The Batman 2004 series & The Batman vs Dracula movie, Plastic Man in the Batman: The Brave and the Bold animated series in 08, and Doc Ock in the Ultimate Spider-Man series.
I was shocked and loved when Batman said “Cowabunga” when I first watched this movie.
"This is where my parents died Raphael"
"Cowabummer"
Btw batgirl is Barbara Gordon not batwoman they are two different people, batwoman is Kate Kane
I love how he gives shredder the first fight because he was tired like batman didnt fight like 50 dudes before shredder
Y'all should totally watch Mask of the Phantasm, a 1993 animated batman film and my personal favorite
This is based on an IDW Comics crossover, There's at least 3 of them and they're all pretty great
(At 35:31) This one they got a little bit right. Joker being mutated into a cobra and Harley Quinn being mutated into a blond hyena.
The fact that Damien knew that Mkkey pressed every button males me think that the Bat-Firework is specifically for if every button was pressed.
(At 16:40) At least I can tell this Baxter Stockman was black, like in the comics.
17:35 i like how the goons body is perextly alligned with the reactor box
The only thing i would’ve added is having the grown up ex-Robins present. Different brother dynamics.
If they do make a sequel, they must have the former robins in the story
This was already a pretty full cast of characters, so adding in Dick, Jason, and Tim probably would've just bloated the story. Although I do agree, it would've been fun to see the brother dynamics of the Robins mix with the Turtles.
@@sword3349I know Batman is the selling point, but how cool would it be for the sequel to be the reverse of this movie. Aka the Batbros minus Batman and Batgirl go to New York to deal with shredder, just like the Turtles went to Gotham without their mentor and April. We would have a smaller cast and still have the different siblings dynamics
@@LinnetofSpace That sounds awesome.
It's based on the comics which the 2nd volume had Dick and jason
The Robin here is Damian Wayne, Batman's son, and Ra's Al Ghul's grandson. He is the fourth Robin after Tim Drake, who became Red Robin
Seriously one of the best TMNT films out there, everything about it was amazing!
41:41 love how this man took a metal sewer grate painted like a pizza to the face.
We not gonna talk about how the T-Rex Foot Ninja now has like 5 someodd needle-tipper vials in his THROAT? Mans is dead. lol
This is Damen the last Robin animated wise , His mother is Talia Al Ghul ironically
Lol in the comics crossover that this movie was based off of, they establish that the DC Universe is completely separate from whatever universe the Turtles are from. This movie basically did away with any multiverse shenanigans and just treated this universe as being inhabited by both Batman and the Turtles. They even have a meta joke where Mikey is super stoked about visiting Gotham City, only for Donnie to say: "They're pretty much the same city." In DC Comics, for the most part, their fictional cities/locations do exist alongside real-world cities/locations. Though, Gotham City has traditionally been treated as kind of the "New York" or "New Jersey" of the DC Universe. Straight up, this movie is AWESOME. Such a great love letter to both the TMNT and Batman franchises, with great action and character moments, as well as plenty of easter eggs and in-jokes for the fans.
This is one of the crossovers that doesnt make sense untill you watch it and its fantastic
Honestly one of the best crossovers. Any 80's kid who played with their Batman and Ninja Turtles action figures together yearned to see this happen. It took about 30-plus years, but it didn't disappoint. Batman vs. Shredder is such a highlight, and I love how evenly matched their fighting skills are.
It's not really canon to anything, but there are lots of little nods and references to both IP's lore in the comics, movies, toys, and video games.
So yes harley quin is indeed a doctor.
She is a psychologist.
Gotham City is located in Gotham County, New Jersey, not in New York. It's closeby to NYC but the two are different cities.
(At 32:38) Y'all can't tell the difference between a Leopard and a Jaguar? Though this Bane is not like the crossover one of the comics, on that one he still had the venom steroids AND he muted into an Elephant. But yeah Bane mutating into a Jaguar instead of an Elephant, that's kind of a letdown.
But it makes more sense geographically.
@@DemitriVladMaximov him being mutated into a Jaguar because he's Brazilian?
@Samgreen90 the original cartoon's explanation of the mutagen is that it combined you with whatever animal you had been in most recent contact with. It is possible that in Bane had a stray hair of a jaguar in his mask.
@@DemitriVladMaximov I guess that makes a little sense. Some of them might be in contact with whatever animals they are around and some of them might take on the form of whatever animals that would "resemble" their appearance before making contact.
@@Samgreen90 Yeah and then they pulled that T-Rex one which doesn't follow any rules as it wouldn't just be a dinosaur with clothing but a dinosaur human hybrid similar to Extreme Dinosaurs or Dinosaucers. So I'm not sure what rules they were going with in that case. But yeah if the ooze is green then usually it follows the comic and live action movie rules and if it is purple then it usually follows the original comic rules. Not always, but most of the time.
(At 17:30) not in 2003 series, 2014 movie, and 2018 series.
Love this movie! So good!!!
Also this robin is the 4th: Damian, who is usually the dark Robin and is Batman's actual son
Jason Todd was the 2nd: red hood
Dick who's in titans is the 1st: nightwing after leaving robin role
Then Tim drake who's the 3rd and sadly doesn't get much screen time 😊
yes that robin is damian wayne true son of batman
And his mother is talia (rasul gul daugher)
I _love_ how much you guys are digging the DC animated movies!
(At 47:09) animation error: Ra's Al Ghul golden gauntlets are gone.
(At 47:19) Did y'all seriously cut out Ra's Al Ghul getting nutshot?
A fun crossover movie based of one of many times the turtles and Bats have crossed over (like seriously Bats and the Turtles get around; Power Rangers, Alien, Predator, Godzilla, Ghostbusters, Dracula, He-Man, X-Files, Elmer Fudd, these are all real) Mikey is hilarious. It's separate from the animated series but the art style is fairly like The Batman tv series, but not its character designs.
No no, Batgirl and Batwoman have always been two different entities: Batgirl is typically Barbara Gordon - daughter of Commissioner Gordon, the outfit she wears in this movie is her 'burnside' outfit, more practically made, was very popular - she also went by Oracle as a 'person in the chair' kinda character, but probably should know about Killing Joke to learn why. Batwoman is typically Kate Kane nowadays, debuting in 2006 after comics reused the mantle from Kathy Kane's iteration between the 60s-80s (funnily enough, Kathy's Batwoman was a love interest to Bruce to stop the gay allegations against Batman because, again, it was the 60s), Bruce's cousin on his mother's side, her suit looks more like Bruce's though her origins are less connected to the Bat Family than Barbara's, also one of DC's most prominent LGBT superheroes.
Okay: Giant Penny! Alfred's fault. He suggested that Bruce kept mementos of past successes; originally it was something a low-tier villain called the Penny Plunderer tried to steal, in Zero Year it was retconned to be used to defeat the Riddler, BTAS attests it to Two-Face, but the giant penny tends to be an art piece Bruce just goes 'ima take this' and nobody thought twice about Batman carrying a giant penny out.
Young Robin - meet Damian Wayne, fifth and most current iteration. Bruce's bio baby with Talia al Ghul, so Ra's al Ghul's grandson, trained mostly as a feral assassin boy but now under the Bat Family's watch to be a less stabby vigilante, but still feral. Probably the second edgiest Robin just behind Jason Todd, but he still has time...and he respawned quicker. In most timeskip comics since he does take up the mantle of Batman.
Many Bat-villains are doctors; Strange and Harley are psychiatrist doctors, while Ivy and Freeze are science doctors
We've still yet to get the sequel, which leaves the potential of jokerized Shredder still up in the air.
- Check out the Suicide Squad Assault on Arkham movie
- Still don't get how Freeze was effected by the mutagen when he was encased in suit