Another thing I really liked about The Batman was that it was the first real big screen, live action showing of the World's Greatest Detective actually being a damned Detective.
@@yawns3004uh… they literally got the riddle wrong 2 times, and most people would think they were talking about Batman. He was talking about falcone tho.
I LOVE how realistic he felt, he cannot dodge all the attacks thus he wears armour and tanks all the attacks, also Bruce Wayne doesn't have any social skills because he acts more as batman than as a human so he cannot fake a charismatic personality because Batman is his personality
Yeah making Bruce Wayne more of an antisocial recluse (At least, at first) just makes more sense in my head. Even ignoring how he is otherwise Batman mentally, it just makes more sense that a kid whose parents were killed in front of him like that would be a recluse as an adult. I hope that changes with the lesson he learned at the end in a sequel though. I feel like it would definitely tie in well to him wanting to become a symbol of hope.
One of my favorite parts of The Batman is that he is shown in tandem with police & what i assume is national guard, as if he's being pulled into those public roles of "justice" or "protection". The resolution of the story, the recovery scene at the end really makes Batman feel like a part of the city not looming over it or adjacent to it as he was at the beginning of the movie. Most other portrayals of batman he feels like a god of gotham city rather than part of it.
I can agree with this. I like how involved he is with the city and he is much more common to actually see in person than in other adaptions. Although I don’t necessarily think it’s a mistake or issue. It’s simply that these other adaptations focus more on Batman as a city “legend” with him barely ever being seen, while Reeves decided to focus on him as an another person who is a part of Gotham.
Well said. Feels like as he started to accept himself (or rather who he should be as Batman), the city likewise began to open its arms & accept him too
The ending just missed completely for me. I know what they were going for, but the whole thing felt incredibly tacked-on and directionless. Oh no, Arkham’s under attack. Oh no, it’s Riddler’s addled internet fanclub. Oh no, people in water. Batman does the right thing and saves some people, he’s the hero. I can _see_ what Nolan wanted to communicate in that final conflict and resolution, but he completely threw away everything that had built up to that point with a very by-the-book and uninteresting finisher. I didn’t get “The World’s Greatest Detective.” I didn’t get “The Dark Knight.” I just got angsty man in bat costume pulling people out of the water alongside a bunch of more sanely-dressed heroes.
Another example how twin treat him differently as batman and as bruce . As Batman, twin not see him as legend of gotham but as annoying weird vigilante with bat costume who distribute their businesses but when they see him as bruce, they scare and obey him because person they see is rich kid from prominent family who hold power in gotham. This movie touch a lot about bruce side of batman who rarely touch by most incarnation of batman.
@@mimorisenpai8540I actually liked that. Him using his Bruce Wayne identity is probably a first time thing for him in this film just to get what he wants. (Btw, I'm mainly a Marvel fan, but a good movie is a good movie) Maybe I should watch the previous batman movies to compare
He attempts to save Reál and some civilians, but none of them accept his hand until a child goes first, then she still hesitates. Not a word spoken, but it conveys it's message clearly.
The dialogues aren't immature, they depict how real people talk in an actual world. Rarely do people come up with heroic one-liners as is otherwise movies make us believe
He didnt directly say the dialog was immature, he pointed out where bruce was at during this film. The conclusions bruce comes to stems from a lack of perspective, which can be seen as immaturity. Bruce is clearly not his fully matured self yet in this film, which adds depth to his growing character
@@justice8718comic books are fun to read but it’s very clear the recent offerings are largely written by sheltered rich kids from costal cities. Not saying their insight isn’t valuable but it’s also not very appealing to the working class. Lots of “first world” problems in modern writing
reeve's joker is reminiscent of the joker that cut his face off. The most terrifying joker, as unnerving as Heath's but personally most uncomfortable to me.
I think ledgers joker felt like a believable more "grounded" portrayal of the joker, maniac insanity. While reeve's joker so far has the insanity turned up to 11. Ledger's joker will be considered the best of all time mainly because of the dedication to that version of joker. I think others can do other versions well in future but they won't feel the same in any regard
I like how the Pattinson Batman has a more realistic, Lt. Columbo like intelligence, where he is just adaptable, and doggedly determined. He's no Sherlock Holmes where he knows every little obscure fact known to man, and can readily recollect it all within seconds like some super computer.
Sherlock *works* for all that knowledge, but it's only knowledge that he considers relevant to his profession. It feels like he knows everything because in the context of investigation and deductive reasoning he has dedicated a staggering amount of time and effort. He's the non-parody version of that "fine dining and breathing" scene from Spongebob.
It made the whole "el" vs "la" in "el ratta" scene in Batman much better and overall realistic in terms of the ups and downs of investigations...or anything else for that matter.
With how they made the Riddler, Hush would seem like a retreading of him The Falcone plot and the Penguin series is shining a great deal on the organized crime of The Batman's Gotham so I could see Black Mask being the villain for a sequel
One of my friends put it perfectly to me when we had the exact same conversation on a younger Batman story,” I want to see how he became the guy who knows everything and not always see the guy who know everything”.
That’s not as deep as you think. “I want to see Batman. But before he was Batman. I want to see normal man. I want to watch a full movie about a normal guy going to university and the gym” No, son. Shit idea. 😊
That'll happen when all the footage being used it taken from various films (i.e. cinema). I guarantee this video wouldn't feel cinematic at all if it was covering a subject matter that wasn't movies. Notice how the part of the video advertising War Thunder doesn't feel cinematic? You think that's a coincidence?
Bruce lived his whole life in that tower watching all the little people in the park and on the streets, disconnected. At the end of the film, when he is about to cut the cable, he is above everyone and everything until he cuts it and joins them in the sewage filled rot of the flooded city just so he can empathize and help raise them up. I feel a lot of parallels from Batman Begins where Bruce is shown the dark side of Gotham's underground and understands the disconnection, so he leaves it all behind to live with nothing so he can better understand what it's like to be desperate. Truly the most Batman move a Batman can make.
My sister and I see it as a baptism. It goes with the religious themes. He cuts the wire gives up on vengeance, is submerged, and is reborn of the water for justice.
@@jacobkeyser8628 It is both. That is the great thing about symbolism. He can't help the people below from above. He has to join them, be there with them to lead them. So he makes that plunge. @dullbatarang165 makes a very interesting point. So much of what we associate with Batman has to do with him being able to rise above. His grappling hook, being on rooftops, gliding with his cape, his plane, his satellites. He is the night, which makes him the sky. He is shadow, which makes him almost ethereal, non-corporeal at times. Aloof. Mysterious. When he lands in the muck, he takes up a light, and walks out in front of them. Visible. Tangible. The baptism is also just as valid.
Pattinson's Batman/Bruce Wayne has become my favorite. Every other interpretation of the character, of Bruce Wayne especially, tries to make him into this suave, James Bond style stoic, when he's literally an orphan with a ton of unresolved trauma who dresses up in a bat costume to beat up criminals as a way to deal with the pain and regret he has inside him. There's very obviously more than just a few screws loose to Bruce Wayne, yet from Keaton to Clooney to Bale and Affleck, even in the animated series, Bruce is always portrayed as this infallibly put-together high society gentleman, and Robert Pattison FINALLY gave us a Bruce Wayne who is deranged, socially inept, hardly has any clue what he's doing besides stalking alleyways at night looking for an opportunity to punch someone in the face, and comes face-to-face with the reality that in spite of how much he lies to himself that what he's doing is for the protection of Gotham, he's really no better than any other misguided and traumatized young man who takes their anger and pain out on innocent people through terrorism. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne has what no other actor's Bruce Wayne has ever had; the potential for enormous growth. Bale came kind of close to delivering that performance in Batman Begins, but he only has one incident where his girlfriend is disappointed in him for wanting to shoot his parents' killer, and after that he becomes like every other interpretation of Bruce Wayne; a rich playboy with a generic James Bond personality. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne, on the other hand, straight up inspires his own nemesis with his vigilante approach to crime fighting. Unlike Heath Ledger's Joker, who is similarly inspired by Batman for an entirely different reason (he believes that Gotham's criminal underworld doesn't have a force that can rival Batman on the opposing side, a "better class of criminal" as he says in the film), The Riddler presumes that he can team up with Batman, believing that they share the same goals of ridding Gotham (even its corrupt government) of criminals, which horrifies Pattinson's Batman to realize that Batman has not become a symbol of hope, justice and order for Gotham, but a symbol of how much more effectively "justice" can be dispensed when ordinary citizens take the law into their own hands instead of relying on the failures of a corrupt system to right society's wrongs. By the end of the movie, Pattinson's Bruce/Batman is left feeling the enormous weight of responsibility he has going forward, realizing that his actions as Batman and even Bruce Wayne cannot reliably be interpreted the way he intended for them to be interpreted, as a symbol for justice for the people of Gotham and as a symbol of fear for its criminal element, and therefore he must face these contradictions and struggle against them instead of feeling safe behind the "All is well" attitude that other Bruce Wayne's and their assorted Batmen feel. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne is truly pained and troubled and has to struggle against things that other Bruce Wayne interpretations gloss over or don't struggle with nearly as much.
You took it right out of my mouth. Making Bruce Wayne more of an antisocial recluse (At least, at first) just makes more sense in my head. Even ignoring how he is otherwise Batman mentally, it just makes more sense that a kid whose parents were killed in front of him like that would be a recluse as an adult. I hope that changes with the lesson he learned at the end in a sequel though. I feel like it would definitely tie in well to him wanting to become a symbol of hope like you mentioned.
Nah I disagree. BvS's Batman was nowhere near being an effective, charismatic, suave Bruce Wayne, like Keaton's or the Animated versions. He clearly hates and isn't very good at socialising or doing his Bruce Wayne act. He's just a womanizer, and that's not hard when you're a fit, attractive, famous billionare. It's also just a different kind of immaturity. He's not an anxious recluse like Pattinson's Batman, but he's also totally unhinged and seems rarely go out except when it's related to his mission (hell, for all we know he gets his girls from an escort service, he has the money).
Notice how the Nolan Batman-Joker interrogation is in a small empty room that's fully lit, batman is depicted as always in the shadows, the joker operates out in the open to receive as much attention as possible, so batman in this scene is in a literal sense in Joker's domain (despite being imprisoned), and with the joker forcing batman to choose which one of two people will die he's controlling all the cards in this scene, its his domain in a metaphorical sense too
@@sakc07 Jesus, I just want to see the Riddler break out of Arkham with this Joker only for him to be betrayed by the Joker afterwards with a nice riddle lol
Im so glad this new version is touching into the things that make Batman so compelling, the detective work, the isolation and ofc the empathy that's a huuuuuuge thing for his character that makes him more than just a dude on his minimalist fursuit that goes out to beat people up.
The Batman is the first live action batman that actually feels like a Batman comic come to life. Not a Batman but in the real world like Nolan’s, or a Saturday morning cartoon version like the justice league batman, but an actual comic book version.
100% my dude. I'm a big Batman fan and I've been collecting his comics since I was 8. I love Batman 89 and the Dark Knight but this movie feels like the comics I read. Live Scott Snyder's work in the new 52. I can't wait for part 2.
I hate this take because it absolutely isn't. Nolan's was closer in Batman Begins and even his was still far from comic Batman. Nobody has given us comic Batman. We saw glimpses in the DCEU, but when looked at as a whole, that version was also too far off.
@@mr.j410 uh, I wouldn’t say “most people”, Batman has had a huge following for decades around the globe, even before there were live action Batman movies.
I believe this is the most mature portrait, not in the serious sense, but in the thematically sense. Bruce and the city can not be changed and healed through Batman, instead through a critical and compassionate reflection, and the unity a symbol can bring people to uproot the issue and represent what they should be. Absolutely pumped for a sequel to explore the aspect of Bruce’s respect for himself, and the city’s realization that change is possible. (All the more reason to introduce Dick Grayson in the potential trilogy)
Batman 2 with robin would honestly go so hard. We've never really had a good live-action robin interpretation, so that'd be awesome to see. Perhaps we could even see robin evolve into nightwing and be the perfect hero gotham deserves.
One Of The Many Reasons The Batman and his villains are iconic is that they both think the exactly the same in the Batman Comic Books, all of it's villains quotes and monologues like "it's not about money, it's about proving a point" is actually said by Bruce Wayne or Batman in the Comic Books already. But The Batman uses his perspective for the sake of others noble healing from the pain while it's villains uses it to spread the pain, Batman is the only characrer that balances out The Perfect Hero and The Perfect Villains with The Perfect Story.
@@nicholassgobero Yeah I am Sorry dude English is not my original language, So to write is hard to do so even if one knows it, even so I will try to correct it as best as I can.
@@andrewmitchell5807 Yes, I will try my best next time dude, when I write a lot it goes wrong because English is not my original language, I just hope they understood what I meant.
I thought so! I never saw that scene when I watched it on Amazon Prime (while doing the dishes) and I was wondering if I lost concentration while washing the dishes.
EDIT: I love how the third episode of THE PENGUIN backs up some points from this video. Once again, we get to see things from a new perspective-this time, the climax, but through Victor’s point of view. The shot of him watching the chaos is almost like the reverse of The Riddler celebrating the explosions from Arkham. Once again, The Riddler, in his revenge, ends up doing more harm than good, just like Bruce. Anyway, after going over all the versions of Batman, I just couldn’t resist diving a bit deeper into my personal favorite. I figured it deserved a whole video of its own, kind of like a follow-up to the last one. Hope you enjoy it, and thanks a ton for all your support!
I haven't finished yet, but great analysis about the parallel shots from below! I am interested to hear your thoughts on the visuals of The Penguin, if you plan to cover it, compared to this film.
@@sleepy.timaeus.arts. he was at maybe 95k at time of posting? He's steadily gaining subs over the course of his channel. It's not one major blow up or anything yet. Crazy views lower sub count
What I found most interesting is how infrequently we see Bruce as himself. The only scene where we really “see” Bruce is the funeral. The other times, it feels more like just an unmasked Batman. I feel it shows how connected Bruce is with his identity as Batman, and how that can be a pitfall (his un-philanthropic behaviors) as well as a crutch (the suit (and therefore the identity) keeps him safe). You mentioned Batman’s fights feeling very personal, like they had wronged him personally. I think this is Bruce’s way of using his Batman persona as a protection, a shield from the grief and guilt that eats at him. Such a well-articulated video! I feel you gave a great explanation as to why I enjoyed watching and rewatching this movie.
And yet at the funeral he is still Batman. He only went there to see if he could catch Riddler in the act. He never stops being Batman in the whole movie, he's even willing to let Wayne Enterprises, his true family legacy, go bankrupt.
I'd argue the hospital scene with Alfred is the only true time we see Bruce. Having almost lost his last family member, feeling both the guilt from his earlier comments dismissing Alfred but also the betrayal of his father and Falcones involvement being hid from him. It's him at his most vulnerable and open where the two reconcile. It isn't until he notices the bat symbol through the window, and it's go time again. I always felt like that whole Alfred section is the most Bruce feeling we get
Beautifully put together. I love these videos because it gives me even more perspective on the movie. I have difficulty reading between the lines so explanations in these videos help with showing me more things about the character I didn’t even realize from my 5 viewings. Gotta love a nuanced character interpretation.
Your content truly is a masterpiece and piece of artwork itself. Glad to see the channel’s doing so well, i’ve been here since your first vids and there’s not 1 that doesn’t captivate me. Keep it up bro!
I love it when you keep validating why this is my favorite movie. I just love the psychological exploration of Bruce so much. How stunted and haunted he is, how bitter and angry yet also afraid. And how he begins to grow because of the unplanned connections he made with both Selina and the Riddler. Thank you so much for mentioning the gaze thing with the trio!!! They're all reflections of the same theme in different ways, of grief leading to vengeance and perhaps a new way of living.
This younger Batman is someone we really haven’t seen save for on the pages of the comics A Batman who makes mistakes In the games, in the shows, in the movies He might trip, but he never falls, he always has a plan to catch himself and to pull himself back up Even in the 3rd dark knight movie, he is sent to the bottom of that pit after “failing” but his attitude never changes, his fighting spirit never falters even for a moment He stumbles, but never falls like he did as a boy, into that well In The Batman Bruce is becoming the bat before our very eyes, we think he’s already the bat, but like the scene where he returns to the club as Bruce Wayne to confront Falcone He arrives the same way as he did when he was in the suit It wasn’t until after he finds out the full truth of what happened, what his family got tied up in, how he had to become something more His attitude changed His entire disposition and reactions to the world changed into that Batman Hope, which very few people realize is such a key part of the character It’s why he doesn’t kill Because he still holds out hope that every one of his villains can be redeemed That’s why he’s soooo violent in the beginning, and why it takes someone he cares about getting hurt, to revert to that same level I think in the 2nd movie, he’s not going to be nearly as violent, he’ll be more confident, more motivated by the good instead of the bad In the Dark knight, Bruce had already made the mental change, and had already realized all this because of the time spent overseas When he finally dons the suit and cowl, he has already been the Batman Batman becoming Batman far after being in the suit is just something we haven’t seen yet It’s great
the unbelievable consistency in directors elevating the batman figure to something larger and leaving their stamp on him as a character is why i keep coming back to their movies. yes, even snyder's have a place on my regular revisitation, but i'd never want that to be the last word on the character, which in the moment, as those films released, it might have felt like. reeves' batman could absolutely be the last batman iteration ever put to film and it would probably earn its place among the great performances and adaptations ever.
This is why I’m subscribed to you! I’m so happy to have watched this, none of this would have ever dawned on me without your amazing breakdown and commentary. Thank you for this.I look forward to your next video!
Thank you for explicitly stating what so many of us intuitively picked up about the film but didn't know how to consciously express. Explaining that it's a film about orphans, perspective, and it all culminating in the scene where batman metaphorically saves his child self perfectly hits the nail on the head. I still remember being asked what I thought of the film and just shrugging and going "It's really artistic and definitely worth seeing" without really being able to explain why. This is the most I've ever enjoyed someone explaining to me why I like something. I hope you keep it up. :)
Maybe you should work on being able to articulate your thoughts better… it’s very important. If you learn something but aren’t able to explain it or tell others why… what use is it?
My favorite part about the interrogations from the Reeve’s films is that it reminds me of Arkham City. Nolan felt like he created his own world about his own agenda that he had for what he wanted to portray through Batman. Reeve’s felt like he’s showing us the Batman as the comic book writers would’ve loved. Through his own lens and cinematography, but while staying true to the Batman in the comics. The way you can walk up to and talk to villains in Arkham City was so sick to me, and the way the Batman does with the riddler and that teaser with the joker remind me of that
I really dig how this Batman is smart in terms of detective work but struggles when it comes to other subjects. He doesn't know spanish and can't recognize a carpeting tool.
Except he does know Spanish. A lot of you misunderstand that sequence. Bruce translates it correctly, the trick was that riddler made a “mistake” which Bruce notices. Later he realises the mistake was on purpose (You Are El)=URL. Riddler was a bit too complex for some people.
@@geordiemc4571 he doesn't know spanish well enough to catch that incorrect article - the penguin does. Bruce is able to decipher what the "mistake" means but not see it in the first place.
yeah im still surprised after 2 years people still couldnt understand Riddler's riddle, he nailed the second part of the riddle, he missed only the "URL" which didnt need translation, if it was translated right then its "La" not "El". Gordon said Riddler made a mistake, Batman responded "Riddler doesnt make mistake", meaning the mistake part "URL" was intentional, Penguin just made Batman "open his eyes" about the "El" so Penguin didnt fix any of his Spanish, if it was "La" then the riddle would be a normal sentence. Then yeah u might say "oh that was for a chase scene then" like yeah to give you time to think about the riddle which i think u missed.
Excellent video man. I remember general reception being a little mixed when the movie came out, but I loved it. Makes me really happy to see (at least judging by the comments) that it's growing on people more and more.
i cant believe that it got a mixed reception. this beautiful movie is an example of why i believe that despite superhero fatigue, there are still so many interesting stories to be told within this subgenre, but they need to be told by people who actually care.
The themes, cinemotograhy, colors, contrast, acting, and music really just coalesce into this perfectly atmospheric and mature take on a very old character. This might be my favorite representation of Batman and this video does a very good job of breaking down just a couple of the more nuanced reasons why that is the case.
I think you might have changed my mind on "The Batman". I saw that movie twice and didn't really care for it, but looking at it from this lens, I've started to get a new appreciation for it.
Reeves batman is so good that when I heard he wanted to do a trilogy my heart dropped. I never wanna see this Batman again because I don’t want to ruin him
Batman spending day and night revisiting the eye footage , obsessed with fighting crimes, not caring about his real identity , being slightly immature and slightly emotional at times, thats the batman i didnt know i needed in my life.
The Batman's scenes are just a better example of "show don't tell". The Joker in the Nolan films is intent on being clear on his motives, plan, philosophy, etc, while the other scenes are an actual conversation with subtext
bro this video was so amazing. Your analysis and displaying the mirror between Riddler and Batman was really shocking and opening to me. I always knew the parallels w/ things like the binocular shots, but when you put Riddlers and Batmans scenes side-by-side, explaining their opposing traits, that was like a "WOAHHHH" Moment for me. Also the baptism motif you described at the end!! I literally was like "OH MY GOD" outloud. The full submergence of batman, and arguably the partial submergence (like a incomplete baptism) of gotham really put in motion how they will change and evolve in the future, and how batman HAS changed at the end of the film.
I will never stop gushing about the Reeves Batman movie. It’s so good, it gets Batman on a level that hasn’t been seen outside of the animated series and finally brings him to the big screen. I can’t wait to see what he brings next.
I don't usually post on these but it must be understood that what the Joker symbolized was anarchy, not anarchism. These are two very different things. Anarchism is NOT anarchy. It is NOT chaos. The Joker, in the hospital with Harvey Dent, even says he is, "...an agent of chaos." One could could very easily say Batman stood for a type of fascism considering who he is, both identities, but that is not why I am posting. I am not here to get into a huge philosophical debate about Batman, but if we are going to simply say Batman is "order" then it follows that the Joker is "chaos".
I agree, anarchism stems from the argument that humans don't need a government or leading body with political power to function, that they will be capable of self regulation, it literally could not be further from the joker's ideals lol joker wants to prove to batman that it only takes a bit of dysregulation to bring society to it's knees, that there is no "civilised human" and that they need to be ruled with arbitrary rules batman actually agrees, but he thinks that that is a symptom of weakness, and that those weak pathetic people need to be protected, informed (and thus controlled) by the superior strong people, which is just another way of ruling over them I just realised that that's why the joker says they're the same lol, they're both fascists xd
Someone watches too much Chris Hedges just throwing that F word around. The cops of Gotham are corrupt, there is no order or structure in the city. Batman is that structure and that order. People call justice, order, and structure "fascism" and it really waters down the actual meaning
If Batman wanted to *really* help he would invest his money into public education and politics. He could most definitely help way more than just beating the shit out of people. Bruce Wayne could be the biggest to contributor to an anarchistic society. I still love the character and this movie. It’s just…cmon lol
@@OutrageIsNow Exactly, I'm 100% with you. I love the character too and always have but the narrator (who did a great job) just made the mistake of saying Batman represented order (which is true) but then mistakenly said the Joker represented "Anarchism?" He didn't say the Joker represents chaos (which is true) I would even let the term "anarchy" pass but specifically "Anarchism," no! As an anarchist, I couldn't let it slide.
This video is absolutely phenomenal. I loved The Batman, but this video emphasized a LOT of things I never even thought to consider even after watching the film a few times already. For me, this video made The Batman from a good movie, to an amazing one. And like what the video is about, you gave me a new perspective. Thank you.
Great video! You really nailed it. Love how this film allowed for a more flawed batman/bruce. Makes him so much more compelling. Can't wait for the sequel
It's sad that half the audience doesn't understand batman is actually trash when he starts..... as someone should be. The other half's classic batman is the dark knight trilogy. Now those ppl act like they are the biggest fans of the character without knowing anything outside of that trilogy 🤦🏿♂️ The batman is the most accurate portrayal of batman in movies. It's literally batman TAS on screen
You summarised it perfectly, they expect battinson to be peak batman from the get go 🤦♂️ Batman begins gave the wrong impression (don’t get me wrong love that movie)
@@Jardani-p7h No, no, I get what you two want to tell. Just because you spent seven years travelling around the world and learning from the best of the best and you have access to milltary gadgets it doesn't mean that you're ready to jump from skyscrapers and fight a whole army all by yourself. Even with all his training and after years of experience fighting crime, Batman still depends too much on luck. How many times have his enemies been about to kill him? Especially Bane and Joker. If it wasn't for his amazing and apparently never-failing good luck, he would have died years ago. And people is expecting that a two-year Batman (which being fair, is not really THE Batman yet) gets to be the perfect crimefighter?
you're very intelligent. i really appreciate your insights into the storytelling and the filmmaking. i love The Batman so much. and you did great putting into words why it's so great.
Well considering the scene with Batman and the Joker is a deleted scene, making a huge emphasis on it like its in the movie kinda makes a big flaw in this video
Just cause it’s deleted doesn’t mean it’s not canon. Reeves already confirmed it does happen cause without it he wouldn’t manipulate/befriend riddler at the end of the movie
I don't normally post comments on videos, but this essay was sooo good! Thank you for reminding me how much I love this film and the genius of Matt Reeves. Congrats on making a great video essay, can't wait to watch more! ✌️
One of my favorite things about this new Batman, they highlighted a very legitimate issue about such a well known and beloved character by shining a light on it through using it as motivation for the story and uses it for character development as well as an obstacle to overcome. They adressed it, didn't excuse or shy away from it but instead acknowledged and internalised it into the character. I freaking love it!
4:53 please do not put two dark images on a bright white background, it's not only difficult to see anything, but you cut to white from a dark scene, which only further assaults the eyes. It's really annoying to look at.
@@SimaoRodrigues... no amount of leaving my house makes this editing choice any better. It would be fine if the scenes were bright, but he was comparing two scenes with very dark lighting. I would get it if it was meant to be obnoxious, like Cruelty Squad's visuals or something, but it wasn't. I can see how it can be overlooked during editing when you just want to put the video out, but it really takes me out of the watching experience when instead of trying to compare scenes like he suggests I get fucking flashbanged by my HDR monitor
It’s interesting because there’s so many repetitions of scenes with different identities, you mention the riddlers and Batman’s first appearances, another one is where Bruce and Batman go to the lounge, each time the twin closes the door to get the other twin, it seems to keep the narrative of perspective
Imo this film was one step from being a masterpiece, because the whole third act and Riddler's plan just doesn't make any sense. For some reason Riddler came from character doing justice in the eyes of many people, even making Bruce questioning his ideals, to a complete psycho who foolds an entire city with lot's of civilian casualties for no reason. It feels like screenwriters just didn't have balls, and was afraid of making him too relatable, and had to sign in all caps, HE IS A VILLAIN AND DOING A VILLAIN THINGS
...He killed a mayor and left behind a child thus creating new orphan. Sounds more like vengeance than justice? He targeted Falcone in a very extreme method that dragged Selina's friend amd got her killed. Justice or vengeance? He targeted Bruce simply because his parents are sinful. Why does a child needs to pay for the crime of their parents? Again, justice or vengeance? He flooded the entire city because unmasking is not enough. From the start of the movie, Riddle just like Batman before his development into becoming hope is simply vengeance masquearading as justice. The movie is pretty much saying you cannot change Gotham or sociery by using vengeance. You have to inspire hope. I'm really curious why there seems to be vocal group of The Batman watchers who think that Riddler is an agent of justice despite his action proving the opposite. If you want a truly justice seeker villain, I guess we can wait for two face, Ra's Al Gul, or maybe Mr. Freeze.
@@yup7380 The same pattern could have been preserved without senceless plot of flooding the city, and it would've worked even better. It feels like it's existance serves only to alienate audience from character
@@черепахаестклубничку I can see that. I saw Riddler as someone who cares more about making people feel the pain that he felt rather than healing and improving the gotham society. Him flooding the city fits his character very much. It's never about justice, it's about projecting your pain just like what Batman did before his realization. In a way, this movie shows Batman failed but from this failure, he learned he must inspire hope instead of instill fear. Fear is just a tool, hope is the symbol.
holy shit The Batman was already the greatest comic book film ever made in my opinion, but this video has shot it up to one of the best movies ever for me. Did not see some of this in my billions of rewatches. Awesome stuff man
An amazing essay for one of the most hated Batman films, I never got suckered into the 'comic accurate' band-wagon so I love this film and it's MY favorite after TDN
When I watched this movie, I thought the most interest part was how you can't really tell what batman is thinking at any given moment, it puts you in his shoes and shoes everything from his perspective but it never tells you how batman feels about what's happening. It's a beautiful movie
I know we are kind of getting a little over exposed to joker, but i still hope he is the main villain of batman 2 or 3 if it's a trilogy, the atmosphere and style of batman (2022) is perfect for him
You know scarecrow would also fit perfectly in a movie like 2022. The vibe is already there and if I can get a scarecrow like in the Arkham games than that would be perfect. My heart would be filled with joy.
@@Bo_M scarecrow would be cool too, but they already have joker teased in that deleted scene, and it's a really cool performance even in that short scene, i think it'd be a shame to not go through w it
@@kentuckyfriedchildren5385 Yeah that is true, but if I'm honest I'm kind of sick of Joker. I want to see other villains like idk Poison Ivy or mr Freeze.
I think, given the penguin mini series, the next will deal with penguin and the mob. Then the Joker. I think this version of the Batman needs to be able to successfully beat mundane people without injury before taking on the supernatural.
Joker of The Batman is amazing a monster in look that is like a mentalist who can read the minds LOL The only thing i didnt like is the look, if batman punches that Joker his face is going to melt 😂😂
@@mr.punisher5100 more like acid shower-ed Or having skin issues since birth I dont like that because is like Batman hitting a leprosy, i like more the TV Gotham series and is similar
the thing i like most about this batman is the suit honestly, i think they did an amazing job with it, i always found the live actions suits a bit goofy almost, but this suit is really well done and it looks exactly how i think it would look irl
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Another thing I really liked about The Batman was that it was the first real big screen, live action showing of the World's Greatest Detective actually being a damned Detective.
Exactly. He's a bit amateurish here but I'm sure we'll see him excel in future films.
World's greatest ninja more like
The "thumb drive" bit was great but the "rat with wings" riddle was painfully obvious as a spectator and the characters just never got it
@@yawns3004uh… they literally got the riddle wrong 2 times, and most people would think they were talking about Batman. He was talking about falcone tho.
Exactly! Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that
I LOVE how realistic he felt, he cannot dodge all the attacks thus he wears armour and tanks all the attacks, also Bruce Wayne doesn't have any social skills because he acts more as batman than as a human so he cannot fake a charismatic personality because Batman is his personality
Yeah making Bruce Wayne more of an antisocial recluse (At least, at first) just makes more sense in my head. Even ignoring how he is otherwise Batman mentally, it just makes more sense that a kid whose parents were killed in front of him like that would be a recluse as an adult.
I hope that changes with the lesson he learned at the end in a sequel though. I feel like it would definitely tie in well to him wanting to become a symbol of hope.
I’d say the fact he saw his parents get shot to death as a child is the reason he doesn’t fake a charismatic personality bro. 😭
He will eventually fake one as we all know Billionaire Playboy Bruce
@@wgrram most other batmans do tho that's why it's such a breath of fresh air that *this* bruce wayne doesn't have the mask of a billionaire playboy
@@venusianmorningstar Agreed!!
1:05
“I complete you, and you complete me.”
“Batman why did you complete that guy?”
I didn't, he's talking crazy
LOLOLOL
Nice
MF HE COMPLETED HIMSELF
Captain america: I got that reference.
One of my favorite parts of The Batman is that he is shown in tandem with police & what i assume is national guard, as if he's being pulled into those public roles of "justice" or "protection". The resolution of the story, the recovery scene at the end really makes Batman feel like a part of the city not looming over it or adjacent to it as he was at the beginning of the movie. Most other portrayals of batman he feels like a god of gotham city rather than part of it.
I can agree with this. I like how involved he is with the city and he is much more common to actually see in person than in other adaptions. Although I don’t necessarily think it’s a mistake or issue. It’s simply that these other adaptations focus more on Batman as a city “legend” with him barely ever being seen, while Reeves decided to focus on him as an another person who is a part of Gotham.
Well said. Feels like as he started to accept himself (or rather who he should be as Batman), the city likewise began to open its arms & accept him too
The ending just missed completely for me. I know what they were going for, but the whole thing felt incredibly tacked-on and directionless. Oh no, Arkham’s under attack. Oh no, it’s Riddler’s addled internet fanclub. Oh no, people in water. Batman does the right thing and saves some people, he’s the hero.
I can _see_ what Nolan wanted to communicate in that final conflict and resolution, but he completely threw away everything that had built up to that point with a very by-the-book and uninteresting finisher. I didn’t get “The World’s Greatest Detective.” I didn’t get “The Dark Knight.” I just got angsty man in bat costume pulling people out of the water alongside a bunch of more sanely-dressed heroes.
Another example how twin treat him differently as batman and as bruce .
As Batman, twin not see him as legend of gotham but as annoying weird vigilante with bat costume who distribute their businesses but when they see him as bruce, they scare and obey him because person they see is rich kid from prominent family who hold power in gotham.
This movie touch a lot about bruce side of batman who rarely touch by most incarnation of batman.
@@mimorisenpai8540I actually liked that. Him using his Bruce Wayne identity is probably a first time thing for him in this film just to get what he wants.
(Btw, I'm mainly a Marvel fan, but a good movie is a good movie)
Maybe I should watch the previous batman movies to compare
I like the ending when he lights a flare and leads everyone out of the building as it's flooding. Not a single word is spoken, just a beautiful moment
He attempts to save Reál and some civilians, but none of them accept his hand until a child goes first, then she still hesitates.
Not a word spoken, but it conveys it's message clearly.
Sometimes even darkness light your path
All kinds of things going on there, really. You got the moses imagery sure, plus he basically comes outta the water a new person, baptismal style.
@@oshkeet "Batism" hehehhe
The dialogues aren't immature, they depict how real people talk in an actual world. Rarely do people come up with heroic one-liners as is otherwise movies make us believe
That’s something God does.
He didnt directly say the dialog was immature, he pointed out where bruce was at during this film. The conclusions bruce comes to stems from a lack of perspective, which can be seen as immaturity. Bruce is clearly not his fully matured self yet in this film, which adds depth to his growing character
I'm vengeance
@@justice8718comic books are fun to read but it’s very clear the recent offerings are largely written by sheltered rich kids from costal cities. Not saying their insight isn’t valuable but it’s also not very appealing to the working class.
Lots of “first world” problems in modern writing
Blud ong misunderstood the title
reeve's joker is reminiscent of the joker that cut his face off. The most terrifying joker, as unnerving as Heath's but personally most uncomfortable to me.
Imo i think its a bit more over exaggerated compared to joker of legeder
Yeah Heath’s is so perfectly done. He’s completely crazy yet he’s believable unlike all the other renditions that are just too unhinged.
I think ledgers joker felt like a believable more "grounded" portrayal of the joker, maniac insanity. While reeve's joker so far has the insanity turned up to 11. Ledger's joker will be considered the best of all time mainly because of the dedication to that version of joker. I think others can do other versions well in future but they won't feel the same in any regard
that joker was incredibly lame
scott snyder joker
I like how the Pattinson Batman has a more realistic, Lt. Columbo like intelligence, where he is just adaptable, and doggedly determined. He's no Sherlock Holmes where he knows every little obscure fact known to man, and can readily recollect it all within seconds like some super computer.
well ofc his just a rich kid beating the crap outta ppl cause his not let go of his loss
Sherlock *works* for all that knowledge, but it's only knowledge that he considers relevant to his profession. It feels like he knows everything because in the context of investigation and deductive reasoning he has dedicated a staggering amount of time and effort. He's the non-parody version of that "fine dining and breathing" scene from Spongebob.
Almost like he just started
....
Well, Sherlock Holmes isn’t really meant to be like that. The show Sherlock flanderizes him to a ridiculous degree
It made the whole "el" vs "la" in "el ratta" scene in Batman much better and overall realistic in terms of the ups and downs of investigations...or anything else for that matter.
this just proves that hush needs to be the villan of one of the batman sequels
You know watching the trailer, I'd initially thought it would've been Hush, there's a scene where The Riddler is wearing bandages on his face.
With how they made the Riddler, Hush would seem like a retreading of him
The Falcone plot and the Penguin series is shining a great deal on the organized crime of The Batman's Gotham so I could see Black Mask being the villain for a sequel
Why
Everyone loves Hush but to br honest he just doesn't really have many good stories. I said it
@@coatrak1357well maybe it’s time to make another good story
One of my friends put it perfectly to me when we had the exact same conversation on a younger Batman story,” I want to see how he became the guy who knows everything and not always see the guy who know everything”.
That’s not as deep as you think.
“I want to see Batman. But before he was Batman. I want to see normal man. I want to watch a full movie about a normal guy going to university and the gym”
No, son. Shit idea. 😊
@@ofangelsanarchists2386you missed the entire point of dudes comment and what he meant by a mile
@@Childishxmarkeeloo I actually didn’t.
Like I said, it’s not deep.
@@ofangelsanarchists2386that’s the point of the movie lmao
@@Ruid-YT it isn’t.
He’s already Batman.
It was the point of the first bit of Batman begins.
Are you both American? Is that why you struggle so much?
I love how cinematic these video essays are
because he’s showing clips from movies??
That'll happen when all the footage being used it taken from various films (i.e. cinema). I guarantee this video wouldn't feel cinematic at all if it was covering a subject matter that wasn't movies. Notice how the part of the video advertising War Thunder doesn't feel cinematic? You think that's a coincidence?
@@HOTD108_the editing quite clean tbf his best is probably the dune video
Bruce lived his whole life in that tower watching all the little people in the park and on the streets, disconnected. At the end of the film, when he is about to cut the cable, he is above everyone and everything until he cuts it and joins them in the sewage filled rot of the flooded city just so he can empathize and help raise them up. I feel a lot of parallels from Batman Begins where Bruce is shown the dark side of Gotham's underground and understands the disconnection, so he leaves it all behind to live with nothing so he can better understand what it's like to be desperate. Truly the most Batman move a Batman can make.
My sister and I see it as a baptism. It goes with the religious themes. He cuts the wire gives up on vengeance, is submerged, and is reborn of the water for justice.
@@jacobkeyser8628 It is both. That is the great thing about symbolism. He can't help the people below from above. He has to join them, be there with them to lead them. So he makes that plunge. @dullbatarang165 makes a very interesting point. So much of what we associate with Batman has to do with him being able to rise above. His grappling hook, being on rooftops, gliding with his cape, his plane, his satellites. He is the night, which makes him the sky. He is shadow, which makes him almost ethereal, non-corporeal at times. Aloof. Mysterious. When he lands in the muck, he takes up a light, and walks out in front of them. Visible. Tangible. The baptism is also just as valid.
Pattinson's Batman/Bruce Wayne has become my favorite. Every other interpretation of the character, of Bruce Wayne especially, tries to make him into this suave, James Bond style stoic, when he's literally an orphan with a ton of unresolved trauma who dresses up in a bat costume to beat up criminals as a way to deal with the pain and regret he has inside him. There's very obviously more than just a few screws loose to Bruce Wayne, yet from Keaton to Clooney to Bale and Affleck, even in the animated series, Bruce is always portrayed as this infallibly put-together high society gentleman, and Robert Pattison FINALLY gave us a Bruce Wayne who is deranged, socially inept, hardly has any clue what he's doing besides stalking alleyways at night looking for an opportunity to punch someone in the face, and comes face-to-face with the reality that in spite of how much he lies to himself that what he's doing is for the protection of Gotham, he's really no better than any other misguided and traumatized young man who takes their anger and pain out on innocent people through terrorism.
Pattinson's Bruce Wayne has what no other actor's Bruce Wayne has ever had; the potential for enormous growth. Bale came kind of close to delivering that performance in Batman Begins, but he only has one incident where his girlfriend is disappointed in him for wanting to shoot his parents' killer, and after that he becomes like every other interpretation of Bruce Wayne; a rich playboy with a generic James Bond personality. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne, on the other hand, straight up inspires his own nemesis with his vigilante approach to crime fighting. Unlike Heath Ledger's Joker, who is similarly inspired by Batman for an entirely different reason (he believes that Gotham's criminal underworld doesn't have a force that can rival Batman on the opposing side, a "better class of criminal" as he says in the film), The Riddler presumes that he can team up with Batman, believing that they share the same goals of ridding Gotham (even its corrupt government) of criminals, which horrifies Pattinson's Batman to realize that Batman has not become a symbol of hope, justice and order for Gotham, but a symbol of how much more effectively "justice" can be dispensed when ordinary citizens take the law into their own hands instead of relying on the failures of a corrupt system to right society's wrongs. By the end of the movie, Pattinson's Bruce/Batman is left feeling the enormous weight of responsibility he has going forward, realizing that his actions as Batman and even Bruce Wayne cannot reliably be interpreted the way he intended for them to be interpreted, as a symbol for justice for the people of Gotham and as a symbol of fear for its criminal element, and therefore he must face these contradictions and struggle against them instead of feeling safe behind the "All is well" attitude that other Bruce Wayne's and their assorted Batmen feel. Pattinson's Bruce Wayne is truly pained and troubled and has to struggle against things that other Bruce Wayne interpretations gloss over or don't struggle with nearly as much.
You took it right out of my mouth. Making Bruce Wayne more of an antisocial recluse (At least, at first) just makes more sense in my head. Even ignoring how he is otherwise Batman mentally, it just makes more sense that a kid whose parents were killed in front of him like that would be a recluse as an adult.
I hope that changes with the lesson he learned at the end in a sequel though. I feel like it would definitely tie in well to him wanting to become a symbol of hope like you mentioned.
One of the best comments I’ve ever read on TH-cam hands down
TL/DR liked the comment anyway😋🤷🦜
Nah I disagree. BvS's Batman was nowhere near being an effective, charismatic, suave Bruce Wayne, like Keaton's or the Animated versions. He clearly hates and isn't very good at socialising or doing his Bruce Wayne act. He's just a womanizer, and that's not hard when you're a fit, attractive, famous billionare. It's also just a different kind of immaturity. He's not an anxious recluse like Pattinson's Batman, but he's also totally unhinged and seems rarely go out except when it's related to his mission (hell, for all we know he gets his girls from an escort service, he has the money).
Facts. And that’s not even getting into the Selina and Alfred side of things.
16:41 “if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change” -Batman
I AM the shadows
-Michael Jackson
Notice how the Nolan Batman-Joker interrogation is in a small empty room that's fully lit, batman is depicted as always in the shadows, the joker operates out in the open to receive as much attention as possible, so batman in this scene is in a literal sense in Joker's domain (despite being imprisoned), and with the joker forcing batman to choose which one of two people will die he's controlling all the cards in this scene, its his domain in a metaphorical sense too
Ah, no wonder this scene always stuck.
Kind of like the final fight in TDR, where he’s out in broad daylight fighting amongst others
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Watching too much jjk lil bro 💀
@@yeo9969 JJK fans when they find out that "domain" is an actual word in the English vocabulary:
@@yeo9969 youre gonna look back and wince at how you used to talk. jjk didnt invent domains lmao
I really appreciate this take. Thank you, I missed a lot of this on my first two viewings. I think I'll go watch it again now.
I crave The Batman 2.
when is it dropping
@@laminescott 2026 as far as I know.
@@laminescottoct 2, 2026…. 722 days away
@@sakc07 Jesus, I just want to see the Riddler break out of Arkham with this Joker only for him to be betrayed by the Joker afterwards with a nice riddle lol
@@ARottenMuffin hmm good one but what about others
Im so glad this new version is touching into the things that make Batman so compelling, the detective work, the isolation and ofc the empathy that's a huuuuuuge thing for his character that makes him more than just a dude on his minimalist fursuit that goes out to beat people up.
Minimalist fursuit 😂😂😂 my sides!!
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The Batman is the first live action batman that actually feels like a Batman comic come to life. Not a Batman but in the real world like Nolan’s, or a Saturday morning cartoon version like the justice league batman, but an actual comic book version.
100% my dude. I'm a big Batman fan and I've been collecting his comics since I was 8. I love Batman 89 and the Dark Knight but this movie feels like the comics I read. Live Scott Snyder's work in the new 52. I can't wait for part 2.
I hate this take because it absolutely isn't. Nolan's was closer in Batman Begins and even his was still far from comic Batman. Nobody has given us comic Batman. We saw glimpses in the DCEU, but when looked at as a whole, that version was also too far off.
@@lex_rodriguez to each their own
Facts but most ppl only know him through the dark knight trilogy.
@@mr.j410 uh, I wouldn’t say “most people”, Batman has had a huge following for decades around the globe, even before there were live action Batman movies.
I believe this is the most mature portrait, not in the serious sense, but in the thematically sense. Bruce and the city can not be changed and healed through Batman, instead through a critical and compassionate reflection, and the unity a symbol can bring people to uproot the issue and represent what they should be. Absolutely pumped for a sequel to explore the aspect of Bruce’s respect for himself, and the city’s realization that change is possible. (All the more reason to introduce Dick Grayson in the potential trilogy)
Batman 2 with robin would honestly go so hard. We've never really had a good live-action robin interpretation, so that'd be awesome to see. Perhaps we could even see robin evolve into nightwing and be the perfect hero gotham deserves.
I feel like the kid we see in the film would be him. Seems like the logical step (but not sure)
One Of The Many Reasons The Batman and his villains are iconic is that they both think the exactly the same in the Batman Comic Books, all of it's villains quotes and monologues like "it's not about money, it's about proving a point" is actually said by Bruce Wayne or Batman in the Comic Books already. But The Batman uses his perspective for the sake of others noble healing from the pain while it's villains uses it to spread the pain, Batman is the only characrer that balances out The Perfect Hero and The Perfect Villains with The Perfect Story.
Nice try, maybe use some periods next time
@@andrewmitchell5807 Scathing
"Nice point, however, you made a slight grammatical error, argument debunked"
@@nicholassgobero Yeah I am Sorry dude English is not my original language, So to write is hard to do so even if one knows it, even so I will try to correct it as best as I can.
@@andrewmitchell5807 Yes, I will try my best next time dude, when I write a lot it goes wrong because English is not my original language, I just hope they understood what I meant.
at 0:53 you can see the camera filming in the glass
Damn straight. Good eye
interrogation rooms often have cameras
@@wearesorryfortheinconvenience security cameras usually arent movie cameras with a camera operator
Damn. What a well articulated video
0:12 biggest difference the second one was deleted, others were not 🙃
I thought so! I never saw that scene when I watched it on Amazon Prime (while doing the dishes) and I was wondering if I lost concentration while washing the dishes.
ooooooh! I literally just watched the movie because of the video and was confused when I didn't see the scene lol
Yeah
EDIT: I love how the third episode of THE PENGUIN backs up some points from this video. Once again, we get to see things from a new perspective-this time, the climax, but through Victor’s point of view. The shot of him watching the chaos is almost like the reverse of The Riddler celebrating the explosions from Arkham. Once again, The Riddler, in his revenge, ends up doing more harm than good, just like Bruce.
Anyway, after going over all the versions of Batman, I just couldn’t resist diving a bit deeper into my personal favorite. I figured it deserved a whole video of its own, kind of like a follow-up to the last one. Hope you enjoy it, and thanks a ton for all your support!
I haven't finished yet, but great analysis about the parallel shots from below! I am interested to hear your thoughts on the visuals of The Penguin, if you plan to cover it, compared to this film.
Great videos but I couldn't help but notice you didn't mention a couple Batman films from the 90s. Do you plan on covering those in a separate video?
I did w joy it and you have my support. Whatever that's worth😁
I'm 46 seconds in, and if it's not Heath Ledger, I'll just have to show myself to the door. ....so which film did you see first?
pin your comments like these in your next video
Really made me appreciate this movie so much more. Thank you, makes me hope you're right about where the character could go from here.
Phenomenal introduction 🐺
Finally someone agrees with me… this version is so much better than previous ones because he’s not perfect Batman yet
Truth!!
WTF me? Haven't even finished the video and saw how many subs. This channel is gonna blow tf up. Good stuff.
He's had a few videos that have completely blown up. He's making great content, only a matter of time for him to gain subs
how many were at the time?
@@typhonnixim also curious how many subs it was at the time of them commenting. it’s at 101k right now
don't steal my gag
@@sleepy.timaeus.arts. he was at maybe 95k at time of posting? He's steadily gaining subs over the course of his channel. It's not one major blow up or anything yet.
Crazy views lower sub count
What I found most interesting is how infrequently we see Bruce as himself. The only scene where we really “see” Bruce is the funeral. The other times, it feels more like just an unmasked Batman. I feel it shows how connected Bruce is with his identity as Batman, and how that can be a pitfall (his un-philanthropic behaviors) as well as a crutch (the suit (and therefore the identity) keeps him safe). You mentioned Batman’s fights feeling very personal, like they had wronged him personally. I think this is Bruce’s way of using his Batman persona as a protection, a shield from the grief and guilt that eats at him. Such a well-articulated video! I feel you gave a great explanation as to why I enjoyed watching and rewatching this movie.
And yet at the funeral he is still Batman. He only went there to see if he could catch Riddler in the act. He never stops being Batman in the whole movie, he's even willing to let Wayne Enterprises, his true family legacy, go bankrupt.
I'd argue the hospital scene with Alfred is the only true time we see Bruce. Having almost lost his last family member, feeling both the guilt from his earlier comments dismissing Alfred but also the betrayal of his father and Falcones involvement being hid from him. It's him at his most vulnerable and open where the two reconcile. It isn't until he notices the bat symbol through the window, and it's go time again. I always felt like that whole Alfred section is the most Bruce feeling we get
Beautifully put together. I love these videos because it gives me even more perspective on the movie. I have difficulty reading between the lines so explanations in these videos help with showing me more things about the character I didn’t even realize from my 5 viewings. Gotta love a nuanced character interpretation.
Your content truly is a masterpiece and piece of artwork itself. Glad to see the channel’s doing so well, i’ve been here since your first vids and there’s not 1 that doesn’t captivate me. Keep it up bro!
I love it when you keep validating why this is my favorite movie. I just love the psychological exploration of Bruce so much. How stunted and haunted he is, how bitter and angry yet also afraid. And how he begins to grow because of the unplanned connections he made with both Selina and the Riddler. Thank you so much for mentioning the gaze thing with the trio!!! They're all reflections of the same theme in different ways, of grief leading to vengeance and perhaps a new way of living.
This younger Batman is someone we really haven’t seen save for on the pages of the comics
A Batman who makes mistakes
In the games, in the shows, in the movies
He might trip, but he never falls, he always has a plan to catch himself and to pull himself back up
Even in the 3rd dark knight movie, he is sent to the bottom of that pit after “failing” but his attitude never changes, his fighting spirit never falters even for a moment
He stumbles, but never falls like he did as a boy, into that well
In The Batman
Bruce is becoming the bat before our very eyes, we think he’s already the bat, but like the scene where he returns to the club as Bruce Wayne to confront Falcone
He arrives the same way as he did when he was in the suit
It wasn’t until after he finds out the full truth of what happened, what his family got tied up in, how he had to become something more
His attitude changed
His entire disposition and reactions to the world changed into that Batman Hope, which very few people realize is such a key part of the character
It’s why he doesn’t kill
Because he still holds out hope that every one of his villains can be redeemed
That’s why he’s soooo violent in the beginning, and why it takes someone he cares about getting hurt, to revert to that same level
I think in the 2nd movie, he’s not going to be nearly as violent, he’ll be more confident, more motivated by the good instead of the bad
In the Dark knight, Bruce had already made the mental change, and had already realized all this because of the time spent overseas
When he finally dons the suit and cowl, he has already been the Batman
Batman becoming Batman far after being in the suit is just something we haven’t seen yet
It’s great
Ever watch Gotham? Starts with Bruce as the boy watching his parents murdered and follows him as he grows up.
Batman failed constantly in the dark knight trilogy and Bruce Wayne growth was done very well he was a mess in rises
the unbelievable consistency in directors elevating the batman figure to something larger and leaving their stamp on him as a character is why i keep coming back to their movies. yes, even snyder's have a place on my regular revisitation, but i'd never want that to be the last word on the character, which in the moment, as those films released, it might have felt like. reeves' batman could absolutely be the last batman iteration ever put to film and it would probably earn its place among the great performances and adaptations ever.
That’s why this is my favorite Batman movie. He’s just getting started as Batman and can’t immediately do everything perfectly.
This is why I’m subscribed to you! I’m so happy to have watched this, none of this would have ever dawned on me without your amazing breakdown and commentary. Thank you for this.I look forward to your next video!
Thank you for explicitly stating what so many of us intuitively picked up about the film but didn't know how to consciously express. Explaining that it's a film about orphans, perspective, and it all culminating in the scene where batman metaphorically saves his child self perfectly hits the nail on the head. I still remember being asked what I thought of the film and just shrugging and going "It's really artistic and definitely worth seeing" without really being able to explain why.
This is the most I've ever enjoyed someone explaining to me why I like something. I hope you keep it up. :)
Maybe you should work on being able to articulate your thoughts better… it’s very important. If you learn something but aren’t able to explain it or tell others why… what use is it?
@@droolingpine9658 it is notttt that deep
@@droolingpine9658Because no one is perfect jackass. Who are you - Noam Chomsky?
this has got to be one of the best video essays ive seen. keep it up, lancelotti
This was great. Even diving into the OST track listing to find a common thread to the narrative. That’s underrated shit right there. Well done.
My favorite part about the interrogations from the Reeve’s films is that it reminds me of Arkham City. Nolan felt like he created his own world about his own agenda that he had for what he wanted to portray through Batman. Reeve’s felt like he’s showing us the Batman as the comic book writers would’ve loved. Through his own lens and cinematography, but while staying true to the Batman in the comics. The way you can walk up to and talk to villains in Arkham City was so sick to me, and the way the Batman does with the riddler and that teaser with the joker remind me of that
I really dig how this Batman is smart in terms of detective work but struggles when it comes to other subjects. He doesn't know spanish and can't recognize a carpeting tool.
Except he does know Spanish. A lot of you misunderstand that sequence. Bruce translates it correctly, the trick was that riddler made a “mistake” which Bruce notices. Later he realises the mistake was on purpose (You Are El)=URL. Riddler was a bit too complex for some people.
@@geordiemc4571 he doesn't know spanish well enough to catch that incorrect article - the penguin does. Bruce is able to decipher what the "mistake" means but not see it in the first place.
yeah im still surprised after 2 years people still couldnt understand Riddler's riddle, he nailed the second part of the riddle, he missed only the "URL" which didnt need translation, if it was translated right then its "La" not "El". Gordon said Riddler made a mistake, Batman responded "Riddler doesnt make mistake", meaning the mistake part "URL" was intentional, Penguin just made Batman "open his eyes" about the "El" so Penguin didnt fix any of his Spanish, if it was "La" then the riddle would be a normal sentence. Then yeah u might say "oh that was for a chase scene then" like yeah to give you time to think about the riddle which i think u missed.
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Never seen this series before. Showed up on my feed. Very impressed. Excellent breakdown and nailed the delivery. New fan, new sub 🙏🏼
Excellent video man. I remember general reception being a little mixed when the movie came out, but I loved it. Makes me really happy to see (at least judging by the comments) that it's growing on people more and more.
i cant believe that it got a mixed reception. this beautiful movie is an example of why i believe that despite superhero fatigue, there are still so many interesting stories to be told within this subgenre, but they need to be told by people who actually care.
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@@beefsupreme67 No humour was intended. This is, quite simply, a factual statement.
I really loved the realism of the characters in the movie. How they all felt like actual people rather than scripted characters
Great video. Rewatched the movie today and I’m glad I found your channel
The themes, cinemotograhy, colors, contrast, acting, and music really just coalesce into this perfectly atmospheric and mature take on a very old character. This might be my favorite representation of Batman and this video does a very good job of breaking down just a couple of the more nuanced reasons why that is the case.
Excellent analysis. Very enjoyable to think through and follow.
I think you might have changed my mind on "The Batman". I saw that movie twice and didn't really care for it, but looking at it from this lens, I've started to get a new appreciation for it.
Amazing film criticism - thank you! You revealed so much I never would have seen but make so much sense. Looking forward to a rewatch of The Batman
Reeves batman is so good that when I heard he wanted to do a trilogy my heart dropped. I never wanna see this Batman again because I don’t want to ruin him
This video took the words right out of my mouth. This is fantastic and I hope any sequel is made with them in mind.
Batman spending day and night revisiting the eye footage , obsessed with fighting crimes, not caring about his real identity , being slightly immature and slightly emotional at times, thats the batman i didnt know i needed in my life.
This is the first video you’ve uploaded since I subscribed and it did NOT disappoint, excellent stuff here
God damn, I love how beautifully made this video essay was. Really, really gorgeous. Well done Lancelloti!
The Batman's scenes are just a better example of "show don't tell". The Joker in the Nolan films is intent on being clear on his motives, plan, philosophy, etc, while the other scenes are an actual conversation with subtext
I am going to assume you never heard of Joker’s one bad day speech.
Your best video so far, mate. Keep up the GREAT work!
The ending of Reeves Batman is phenomenal. Death to vengeance, Birth to justice. Cannot wait for the sequel.
Brother, well done. What a lovely video essay. Just when I thought I had seen every video essay analysis of Matt Reeves' Batman...
bro this video was so amazing. Your analysis and displaying the mirror between Riddler and Batman was really shocking and opening to me. I always knew the parallels w/ things like the binocular shots, but when you put Riddlers and Batmans scenes side-by-side, explaining their opposing traits, that was like a "WOAHHHH" Moment for me.
Also the baptism motif you described at the end!! I literally was like "OH MY GOD" outloud. The full submergence of batman, and arguably the partial submergence (like a incomplete baptism) of gotham really put in motion how they will change and evolve in the future, and how batman HAS changed at the end of the film.
they made him an actual flawed detective batman who is still learning and that’s why it’s so good
ugh, i love this video so much! ive gotta watch this movie again 😭 i saw it twice in theaters, but that’s clearly not enough lol
Dude you are a genius!!! You brought to light so many details that I totally missed. This is some bat level detective work. Thank you!
11:13 they finally embraced some fanfic tropes
I will never stop gushing about the Reeves Batman movie. It’s so good, it gets Batman on a level that hasn’t been seen outside of the animated series and finally brings him to the big screen. I can’t wait to see what he brings next.
I don't usually post on these but it must be understood that what the Joker symbolized was anarchy, not anarchism. These are two very different things.
Anarchism is NOT anarchy. It is NOT chaos. The Joker, in the hospital with Harvey Dent, even says he is, "...an agent of chaos."
One could could very easily say Batman stood for a type of fascism considering who he is, both identities, but that is not why I am posting. I am not here to get into a huge philosophical debate about Batman, but if we are going to simply say Batman is "order" then it follows that the Joker is "chaos".
I agree, anarchism stems from the argument that humans don't need a government or leading body with political power to function, that they will be capable of self regulation, it literally could not be further from the joker's ideals lol
joker wants to prove to batman that it only takes a bit of dysregulation to bring society to it's knees, that there is no "civilised human" and that they need to be ruled with arbitrary rules
batman actually agrees, but he thinks that that is a symptom of weakness, and that those weak pathetic people need to be protected, informed (and thus controlled) by the superior strong people, which is just another way of ruling over them
I just realised that that's why the joker says they're the same lol, they're both fascists xd
Someone watches too much Chris Hedges just throwing that F word around. The cops of Gotham are corrupt, there is no order or structure in the city. Batman is that structure and that order. People call justice, order, and structure "fascism" and it really waters down the actual meaning
If Batman wanted to *really* help he would invest his money into public education and politics. He could most definitely help way more than just beating the shit out of people. Bruce Wayne could be the biggest to contributor to an anarchistic society.
I still love the character and this movie. It’s just…cmon lol
@@OutrageIsNow Exactly, I'm 100% with you. I love the character too and always have but the narrator (who did a great job) just made the mistake of saying Batman represented order (which is true) but then mistakenly said the Joker represented "Anarchism?" He didn't say the Joker represents chaos (which is true) I would even let the term "anarchy" pass but specifically "Anarchism," no! As an anarchist, I couldn't let it slide.
"Anarchism is not anarchy" is the most no true Scotsman of an ideology I've ever heard.
This video is absolutely phenomenal. I loved The Batman, but this video emphasized a LOT of things I never even thought to consider even after watching the film a few times already. For me, this video made The Batman from a good movie, to an amazing one. And like what the video is about, you gave me a new perspective. Thank you.
literally my favourite channel 🙌
Wow that's the best video I've seen about the batman. Nice work man
This video is absolute perfection
Really enjoyed this thank you
Great video! You really nailed it. Love how this film allowed for a more flawed batman/bruce. Makes him so much more compelling. Can't wait for the sequel
It's sad that half the audience doesn't understand batman is actually trash when he starts..... as someone should be. The other half's classic batman is the dark knight trilogy. Now those ppl act like they are the biggest fans of the character without knowing anything outside of that trilogy 🤦🏿♂️
The batman is the most accurate portrayal of batman in movies. It's literally batman TAS on screen
You summarised it perfectly, they expect battinson to be peak batman from the get go 🤦♂️ Batman begins gave the wrong impression (don’t get me wrong love that movie)
@@Jardani-p7h No, no, I get what you two want to tell. Just because you spent seven years travelling around the world and learning from the best of the best and you have access to milltary gadgets it doesn't mean that you're ready to jump from skyscrapers and fight a whole army all by yourself. Even with all his training and after years of experience fighting crime, Batman still depends too much on luck. How many times have his enemies been about to kill him? Especially Bane and Joker. If it wasn't for his amazing and apparently never-failing good luck, he would have died years ago. And people is expecting that a two-year Batman (which being fair, is not really THE Batman yet) gets to be the perfect crimefighter?
I've not seen someone understand this movie so well before! Really enjoyed the video :3
10:12 I always thought that being a real orphan means losing your parents.
you're very intelligent. i really appreciate your insights into the storytelling and the filmmaking. i love The Batman so much. and you did great putting into words why it's so great.
Well considering the scene with Batman and the Joker is a deleted scene, making a huge emphasis on it like its in the movie kinda makes a big flaw in this video
Just cause it’s deleted doesn’t mean it’s not canon. Reeves already confirmed it does happen cause without it he wouldn’t manipulate/befriend riddler at the end of the movie
I thought it was weird that I didn't remember that scene! I was getting worried that my memory had gotten real bad haha.
@@LaHence_ I thought perhaps more info on 2 had dropped that I'd missed
Wow, that's such an interesting take given to the movie! So much symbols I didn't notice when I've watched
08:07 Just FYI, this scene isn't included! It's not in the finished version of the movie. I'm honestly not even sure where you found this scene from.
It's a cut scene no? I remember seeing it at the end
@@Hotelgeneratorits just a cut scene
I don't normally post comments on videos, but this essay was sooo good! Thank you for reminding me how much I love this film and the genius of Matt Reeves. Congrats on making a great video essay, can't wait to watch more! ✌️
One of my favorite things about this new Batman, they highlighted a very legitimate issue about such a well known and beloved character by shining a light on it through using it as motivation for the story and uses it for character development as well as an obstacle to overcome.
They adressed it, didn't excuse or shy away from it but instead acknowledged and internalised it into the character. I freaking love it!
another beautifully crafted video! loved your analysis
4:53 please do not put two dark images on a bright white background, it's not only difficult to see anything, but you cut to white from a dark scene, which only further assaults the eyes. It's really annoying to look at.
Stop the cap
Yeah, even during the day it's jarring for the eyes
Brother, you need to exit the house.
@@SimaoRodrigues... why are you being toxic lol he just gave good advice since that's really annoying
@@SimaoRodrigues... no amount of leaving my house makes this editing choice any better. It would be fine if the scenes were bright, but he was comparing two scenes with very dark lighting. I would get it if it was meant to be obnoxious, like Cruelty Squad's visuals or something, but it wasn't. I can see how it can be overlooked during editing when you just want to put the video out, but it really takes me out of the watching experience when instead of trying to compare scenes like he suggests I get fucking flashbanged by my HDR monitor
We finally had a great representation of Batman in this movie. I just hope it keeps it grounded coming forward
I squirbulged all over the screen at the end of this, beautiful video
Real
@@seventempest7 thanks man I needed that
@@Fripplingakarhano that
It’s interesting because there’s so many repetitions of scenes with different identities, you mention the riddlers and Batman’s first appearances, another one is where Bruce and Batman go to the lounge, each time the twin closes the door to get the other twin, it seems to keep the narrative of perspective
Imo this film was one step from being a masterpiece, because the whole third act and Riddler's plan just doesn't make any sense. For some reason Riddler came from character doing justice in the eyes of many people, even making Bruce questioning his ideals, to a complete psycho who foolds an entire city with lot's of civilian casualties for no reason. It feels like screenwriters just didn't have balls, and was afraid of making him too relatable, and had to sign in all caps, HE IS A VILLAIN AND DOING A VILLAIN THINGS
thats exactly how i felt as well
...He killed a mayor and left behind a child thus creating new orphan. Sounds more like vengeance than justice?
He targeted Falcone in a very extreme method that dragged Selina's friend amd got her killed. Justice or vengeance?
He targeted Bruce simply because his parents are sinful. Why does a child needs to pay for the crime of their parents? Again, justice or vengeance?
He flooded the entire city because unmasking is not enough.
From the start of the movie, Riddle just like Batman before his development into becoming hope is simply vengeance masquearading as justice.
The movie is pretty much saying you cannot change Gotham or sociery by using vengeance. You have to inspire hope.
I'm really curious why there seems to be vocal group of The Batman watchers who think that Riddler is an agent of justice despite his action proving the opposite.
If you want a truly justice seeker villain, I guess we can wait for two face, Ra's Al Gul, or maybe Mr. Freeze.
@@yup7380 The same pattern could have been preserved without senceless plot of flooding the city, and it would've worked even better. It feels like it's existance serves only to alienate audience from character
@@черепахаестклубничку I can see that. I saw Riddler as someone who cares more about making people feel the pain that he felt rather than healing and improving the gotham society. Him flooding the city fits his character very much. It's never about justice, it's about projecting your pain just like what Batman did before his realization.
In a way, this movie shows Batman failed but from this failure, he learned he must inspire hope instead of instill fear. Fear is just a tool, hope is the symbol.
holy shit
The Batman was already the greatest comic book film ever made in my opinion, but this video has shot it up to one of the best movies ever for me. Did not see some of this in my billions of rewatches. Awesome stuff man
An amazing essay for one of the most hated Batman films, I never got suckered into the 'comic accurate' band-wagon so I love this film and it's MY favorite after TDN
Wait what? Is it actually hated? I always thought that it widely praised? Personally, its my favourite Batman, even before TDN.
its nowhere near the most hated Batman film
When I watched this movie, I thought the most interest part was how you can't really tell what batman is thinking at any given moment, it puts you in his shoes and shoes everything from his perspective but it never tells you how batman feels about what's happening. It's a beautiful movie
I know we are kind of getting a little over exposed to joker, but i still hope he is the main villain of batman 2 or 3 if it's a trilogy, the atmosphere and style of batman (2022) is perfect for him
You know scarecrow would also fit perfectly in a movie like 2022. The vibe is already there and if I can get a scarecrow like in the Arkham games than that would be perfect. My heart would be filled with joy.
@@Bo_M scarecrow would be cool too, but they already have joker teased in that deleted scene, and it's a really cool performance even in that short scene, i think it'd be a shame to not go through w it
@@kentuckyfriedchildren5385 Yeah that is true, but if I'm honest I'm kind of sick of Joker. I want to see other villains like idk Poison Ivy or mr Freeze.
I think, given the penguin mini series, the next will deal with penguin and the mob. Then the Joker. I think this version of the Batman needs to be able to successfully beat mundane people without injury before taking on the supernatural.
Based on what Reeves was saying a couple years ago, sounds like Mr. Freeze, Clayface and the Court of Owls are the primary options for the next one.
That was a beautiful analysis of character and story development, thank you!
Why don't I remember the Joker interrogation scene from the film???
It was cut out. It was released online a little after the movie released.
FINALLY! Someone who isn't making a boring 30minute video that gets nowhere. Good job
Joker of The Batman is amazing a monster in look that is like a mentalist who can read the minds LOL
The only thing i didnt like is the look, if batman punches that Joker his face is going to melt 😂😂
He's definitely terrifying
This version of the Joker looks a bit mutilated
@@mr.punisher5100 more like acid shower-ed
Or having skin issues since birth
I dont like that because is like Batman hitting a leprosy, i like more the TV Gotham series and is similar
@@Morfe02but that’s more comic accurate? Joker falls in chemicals, that’s how it’s supposed to be
the thing i like most about this batman is the suit honestly, i think they did an amazing job with it, i always found the live actions suits a bit goofy almost, but this suit is really well done and it looks exactly how i think it would look irl