Anthem Angry Rant! - Extended Review Discussion
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YES! We had even MORE to Say! Our Angry Extended Review Discussion for Anthem! Bits I had to leave out, Marketing LIES, Loot Drop Woes, Missing Content, Anthem's Roadmap & Future and How to Fix the Game for Bioware!
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My only complaint on Anthem is that the whole gameplay ruins my loading screen immersion.
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THANK YOU
boom headshot!
lol
*Yahtzee!!!*
My only complain on Anthem is that the whole gameplay ruins my loading screen immersion.
Yeah, the gameplay is *almost* as long as the loading screens.
Loading screen simulator 2019
Haha yeah I love stealing comments too
Hahaha that was great
And I thought paradox interactive were the Kings of Lobby simulator.
6 years in development, and not one gun has a unique model. Wow.
Travis Holland 6 years my ass, probably took them 8 months or so. If it really took six years to make then it would have came out polished as RDR2 or God of War.
don't forget that andromeda has a lot of development time too!
but internal conflict in bioware montreal that pulls the team on all kind of directions (either by ea, themselves or other parties) consumes a lot of the development time.
seems like the same thing happens to anthem.
My guess is 5 years in development hell, 1 year in actual development.
5 years of sitting around a desk talking about anthem, 1 year of developing
@Original6Productions you say as if 7/10 is bad lol
I sent a letter to EA asking their executives to be Pall Bearers at my funeral. That way they can let me down one last time.
😂
rofl
neat.
James Maloney I dont think so mean.. They will probably stop halfway, just like they stop their games being finished on release. You probably have to pay for the season pass if you want them to carry you all the way.
august lavdal every inch will be another micro transaction for my family to get me the full six feet under. Well played sir.
I feel like talking about this game is more fun than actually playing it.
It is apparently more fun to talk about all the stuff around it than playing the game.
it’s even more fun to act like it doesn’t exist 🌚
same like Fallout 76. "fun" news keeps coming and coming.. lol
The discussion around it is honestly fascinating.
You're...not...wrong. =[
"Cut it, but we might sell it to 'em later." EA in a sentence.
Isnt this what happen to the first Destiny?
replace 'but' with and
David Garcia yes but who cares
Anthem is gonna have no paid DLC so either the games development was just completely fucked or the devs and publisher are the most brain dead individuals in the world
@@emilbrandwyne5747 and remove the 'might'.
Your choices DO have consequences....just ask someone who bought Anthem.
😂
Well of course I know him he's my best friend likes EA games
Revisiting this two years later: they didn't fix anything and abandoned the game in this state. Worst game in history.
No. They ripped the lead dev for… I can’t remember which game
That's EA's live service in action, don't forget to buy their latest disaster bf2042 only $70!
Can't believe people are still commenting on this old video.
@@markdexter6338 I sometimes watch Joe's old reviews like podcasts while I do other shit. It's great hearing him shit on bad games while I work
@@goofball1_134 a lot of times he predicted the future, hindsight is 20 20
That's why Del is instrumental in most reviews. He actually gets in and works on the game.
On camera, he's alright. But in the game clips, the man is...the man. Does fucking work.
Del is homosexual
Ya he manages to work through every aspect of the games in short order so they’re not referencing bullshit. He does a lot for them.
Joe shouldn't even play looter shooters they clearly aren't his type of game. Del is the only one who is competent at Anthem. Joe can't even survive hard mode.
He really helps get the nitty gritty details and specifics
Literally Delrith is like the vice cop. Getting into the danger zone to get the information the public needs
The hero we need but don't deserve
Haha I'm a casual gamer these days but your right. He puts in the legwork for us noobs
@@rulsey23 Del never misses hand day.
swear he sleeps 3 hours a night.
Lmao
Anthem fans don't have buyer's remorse.
They have buyer's denial.
I don't deny that it could have and should have been "more" at release, with the amount of time they've been working on it, but I'm still personally satisfied with the game. I've put dozens of hours into it and am still enjoying it.
@@BurgerwithPeanutButtter this game is great....this band wagon is pretty funny but I bought red dead for the online and look how bad that went.....u don't hear anybody talking bad about it and it is the most boring online game ever at this point. I still love it but don't play it and anthem is fun! I tried the division 2 and still wanted to play anthem because it feels different....but hey to each is own.
@@chanceterrell2900 you just like really boring grindy monotonous games then. Congrats my dude but not all of us enjoy that
@@chanceterrell2900 well your first mistake was buying RDR2 for its online component.
@@ramonosuke no I new what the story would give me....but was excited for the online but its not living up to the hype
*”Are they going to fix this? Yes, eventually.”*
This did not age well.
How even was the cataclysm, I didn't even pay attention to it
I love he pointed out the roadmap after saying this, considering it doesn’t exist anymore.
Every Fallout and Elder Scrolls fan ever
Well, they're fixing it with Anthem 2.0. God only knows when that's coming out though.
@@purgejmi I have a friend who works at BioWare Austin, he said that the launch of Anthem 2.0 is going to be 30th February 2021
Can somebody explain to me.... Youre EA , you have the Star Wars license. Youre EA , you have the studio that made the best Star Wars game ever, Bioware's Knights of the Old Republic. Youre EA, you have Dice who made many great online shooters.... Why on earth do you have Bioware develop an online shooter and have Dice develop a Star Wars game?????? Its like they are f-ing it up on purpose.....
EA is evil
I'm glad i wasn't the only one that noticed that. That is so dumb
Oh my god, that never crossed my brain before but it seemed so obvious.
They legitimately don’t care about the quality of their product. As long as they make money. And even then, it won’t be enough.
Dice does battlefield sjw bs now.
Delrith was really good here, and is making a good addition to the channel. It’s cool how he puts in so many hours into these games and knows what he’s talking about/ make sure info is correct/ adds in important info.
He always was a good gamer. Alex on the other hand.......
Yeah gg for him wasting his time in life on useless games.
@@hypolyxa7207 It's his job
@@pospecc13 Of course. but it doesn't change the *fact* that he IS indeed *wasting* his TIME, like many many people... :P
Most of the shit Delrith said in this video is a straight up lie and Joe believed all of it.
1. The guy they were talking about, Sev, does get introduced to you before you run the dungeons. You literally have to talk to him prior to going into the Tyrant Mines
2. You CAN see your face in cutscenes. There are 4-5 cutscenes throughout the campaign that will show your face, as long as you have the default helmet equipped. Your freelancer will be inside the javelin and the helmet lifts and you see their face. If you have the default helmet, you can also see your guy’s face in the loading screen before going into a mission.
3. Faye, the girl he says is always the voice during freeplay is also another lie. Owen will be your cypher up until a certain point in the story. After then, Faye replaces him and talks to you in freeplay.
Mass Effect died for this
One of my favourite franchises died for this.
Logan 06 preach mass effect trilogy remastered
Brat Nation i would like a game that shows what happens after the trilogy
Logan 06 That’s not a bad idea actually
Yeah dude it’s fucked
Logan 06 It’s called Andromeda, and it killed the original Mass Effect trilogy, even before this game.
There are no STATUS SCREEN in a STATS based game!
Bro I literally cannot stress that enough. Like HOW THE FUCK did they even make this game if you couldn’t see any any stats? But nope, they kept adding stats to weapons, components, powers, and etc blindly.
It's hilarious that people can defend something broken even to the most fundamental levels.
Fire Emblem Fates has stats right on the bottom screen at all times. It tells you what each stat does, what debuffs/buffs you have, your weapon stats, how strong your character(s) are, and I must emphasis this again, you always have access to it. In a 3ds game from 2016. Anthem has no excuse, other than they didn't implement it.
@@valen9835 Fire Emblem Fates? It's been there since the Fire Emblem game on the frickin Gameboy Advance! In 2003!
And many other RPG'S with Stat sheets to tabletop gaming for so many years.
UNACCEPTABLE!
Would take too long to load. XD
Anthem took 6 years of development.....God of War 4 took 5 years, Witcher 3 took 3.5 years, Persona 5 took 6 years, Neir: Automata took 3 years. No more excuses!!!! You guys coulda just put 2 more years of development in Mass effect Andromeda!!!
Kartik Punna then it would be a PS5 game. And won’t be out till like 2021. Mass Effect andromeda could’ve gave Witcher 3 a run for it’s money with more development time, and anthem could’ve competed with Cyberpunk 2077 with more development time! That woulda been perfect
kemar Sessay PS5 isn’t really due for another 3-4 years imo. PS4 is doing fine for now. Not to mention, most studios have only made one game for the PS4.
@@OoXLR8oO Fuck that game.
Kids are dumbasses. They'll buy shit if EA tells them to.
That game did not take 6 years to make that's the great big lie
In the Anthem Wiki, it says Jarras Wrath is a weapon dropped in Hell or High Water quest. There's no such quest therefore no such weapon lol. Wow.
Metin Saray I feel like EA and BIoWare has plan releasing Unfinished Version of Anthem on PS4, and release the full E3 Version PS5. To get the sales on PS4?
Someone actually made a wiki for this game?
@@deathsdoor07 I know right
@@saintz8244 Even if it's an unfinished game, it's still not looking promising for the future. You can tell there's zero passion on making this. I thought EA was gonna repair its reputation with this game but man, the game industry is fucked.
@@mtnsaray Its most likely cut content that there going to release later and call it "DLC"
"Yes they'll fix this eventually. They have a road map." *laughs in future*
Edit (March 2021): *LAUGHS EVEN HARDER IN FUTURE*
Just bought it for 15 dollars ... barely any changes
@@dillajoints433 Yep. There was meant to be an anniversary update that brought more to it but if I recall correctly it just never came out. They still haven't removed the christmas lights from the December event. 🤣
@@PokerPlayerJames Are you fucking serious? God damn. lol
@@mathunit1 it's been a while now. Maybe they've took em down. YongYea did a few vids about anthem bullshit and the Christmas lights are mentioned in one of them.
@@PokerPlayerJames No way?they still haven't?
Bethesda: We've created the worst and most broken game of all times
Bioware: Hold my load screen
Best commment! thanks for the laugh
I've been playing Breath of the Wild with my niece lately. What an amazing game. Nintendo has been making the best games ever for over 30 years and they (almost) never drop the ball. Games like Anthem prove how amazing Nintendo really is. Everyone on Earth should buy a Switch.
Bud The Cyborg i was more disappoimted in botw than anthem but that is Mainly due to knowing anthem would suck
210 hours in game, 3 legendaries, all the same exact item, all shitty rolls. I'm done.
Bethesda:nice try but here's your load screen back.
“After 70 hours, do you think you’ve achieved something?”
“No.”
That's like all Battle Royale type of game.
EA perfected the $60 yearly dlc years ago
@ -sheep- fifa fans
@@northide8785 same with all the yearly sports games that are released.
You know we don't need a MMO game.
Why MMO? Why not a game you can play alone or Co-op which it would be an open world style. That would introduce pvp and "LESS" loading screens.
They could've made Anthem a regular game than a stupid MMO. That might not make a difference but they could do raids which could make it a semi-MMO.
Because why play alone in a MMO? No one should do there own thing in an MMO. It seems these kind of games are tricky to make, only to me Anyways.
This game should just kill EA or ruin the terrible game developers career.
More like we need a Gordon Ramsey game artist, developer, and producer.
We need some one to rise up against these companies and help the underrated developers.
@EliteNinja664PSN
Yeah, I wasn't really thinking clearly when I was writing that. Basically I ranted like a wanna be critic. Lol.
I've been looking forward to sekiro though.
@@anonymous_9491 This game will kill Bioware quicker than it'll kill EA, sadly. Bioware produced some good games, it's sad seeing them go down the shitter.
Whose here for the 1 year anniversary of this GAME!!??
Edit: sorry I’m a few days late, was stuck at the load screen.
it’s like buying a gym membership while it’s just a treadmill in a room.
and in lockdown for a year without access to the treadmill
@@Old-Boy_BEbop and then find out there’s no treadmill at all smh
Del has really added a lot to the channel! The only person I know that'll grind that hard just so we don't have too! the Hero we dont deserve, DELRITH
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@@emre9704 nothing wrong with furries buddy.
gotta give thanks for him puttin so much time into Fallout 76...hey, someones gotta do it lol
@@nightrat42 Who said there is somethin' wrong with it, pal?
@@emre9704 Just usually were people go with it. Was just saying my opinion I guess, guy.
Dear EA,
Thank you
- Bungie
Love it
😆
Big facts.
Lol bungies not doing much better, there's a reason destiny 2 is free to play, Destiny's player base is just as dead as anthems so there throwing the game at everyone hoping you will buy the microtransactions and dlc to squeeze a little more money out of it before it dies for good
KAmeron howell that is not true at all. Destiny still has a large player base despite its multiple flaws. And also they still, you know, UPDATE THE GAME. Unlike BioWare who abandoned Anthem after a few months.
We had games like Borderlands, GTA, Warframe Skyrim which could be played for thousands of Hours for a fair prize and are still loved, so why do so many games fail now?
Because the purpose of a capitalist business is to make more money every year. If you don't make more profit than the last year, you don't please investors and your company could go broke. So we'll see more games that are unfinished on launch unfortunately, because publishers think that's how they'll make the most money.
@@HaplessOne Atleast there are still some who make games cuz they want it and not cuz they want mooney
Greed
incompetent devs and greedy publishers polute the industry more then ever before
Cos of corruption and bankruptcy
Joe "how do we fix anthem?"
Del "you don't"
Simply put.... "It's too far gone"
Sterling was right. The best thing about the game is talking about the game
Ziggy Sterling is brilliant he's an absolute SAVAGE when it comes to calling BS on "AAA" gaming!
I was expecting some close combat hallways and buildings 🏢 like DAYZ is that still too much ...
Jim Sterling? Fuckin' prick.
Say what you will about his presentation style, Sterling is usually right.
@@Ryumeyer lol are you quoting that date rapist guy?
I hate all of these new age soulless loot based grind fest games
Nick Furious so you hate Borderlands 2 or TPS?
@@weenislickah8897 Except Borderlands isn't souless
He said "NEW"
Well, Bungie is no longer with Activision, so there's still some hope for Destiny
@@weenislickah8897 the difference with borderlands is they have no limits. It doesnt take it self serious so any gun can be made. A fuckin bullet that shoot exploding guns can be made loot and fit in. Other games cant do that cuz they limit themselves
What more can you expect from a company that says "single player games are dead’
and they look very foolish when god of war wins game of the year in 2018 and gasp its a linear single player game!!!
@@adad87821 I mean they look stupid regardless when they are pushing GAS and they have all been failures meanwhile you have spiderman, god of war, yakuza 6, dragon quest etc just giving these fuckers the finger. For fuck sakes Capcom and monster hunter are shitting on EA in both regards, single and multiplayer. If youre gonna say something that bold atleast have a game that shows success. Everything so far has been a fucking failure and anyone that follows EA's lead goes down that road. COUGH COUGH BETHESDA.
Anthem is the Fyre Festival of gaming
I think that title still belong to No Man's Sky.
Victor Tran yeah NMs actually turned out pretty dope. Still getting better too.. they’re about to drop the full game on VR. I hope the same thing happens for Anthem.
@@Lioneriod redemption arc takes its time.
Nahh that's Fallout 76. Anthem may have been devoid of point, but at least it worked. FO76 was an abomination at launch, and it got WORSE.
@@victortran7980 nah cause no man's sky has apparently made a big comeback
EA wants a looter shooter where you pay for loot
Basically
No... That's not how the game works at lmao.... And people are agreeing with..... God help me. Just proof that 99% of the people hating on this game haven't played it.
There is no loot,, worst llot shooter ever
@@deadpixel-bt7rw That's not what he's insinuating you dingus, he's saying that's what they WANT, not what they MADE.
@@bensen6299 besides all of the loot lol
I said over and over and over again..... DO NOT PRE ORDER ANY EA OR ACTIVISION GAMES EVER.
Sekiro is safe to preorder, Activision didn’t have anything to do with the developpement. From Software has full control on the game.
Don't forget Ubisoft
@@LuccatielD7 and Sekiro is gonna be awesome.
And they still are one of the most overpaid companies
@Warm Soft Kitty I don't know who you are commenting to here but I thin you are slightly wrong. You are correct in saying they are the publishers not the developers but that is only technically. Games that are published but them and made by studios not owned by them do have a tendency to be good games. An example of this would be Titanfall 2. Developed by Respawn Entertainment (before they were purchased by EA) and published by EA. This meant they had the ability to be a lot more free with their game. However, developers who are owned by the publisher have to follow more strictly what the publisher wants. For instance BioWare is owned by EA. This means you could say BioWare developed the game (which is true) but you can't say EA doesn't have their hand in the development. When a publisher owns the developer you can't separate the two anymore because the publisher is now the developer also. With this said I think @Makoto Niijima is correct in saying Sekiro has a chance of being okay even though it is published by Activision. As far as I know Activision does not own FromSoftware which means this is a collaboration.
I just want to say, I understand what you were saying but things simply aren't that simple. Not everything EA or Activision publishes is bad. Just everything in which they own the developers (thus making themselves the developers) is bad.
It's sad watching this now and hearing Joe say "will they fix this, yes here is the road map". It would be nothing but lie after lie until they admitted that they didn't care enough to do right by the customer and killed the game.
Yep, never buying another BioWare product after what happened
Edit: Coming from a huge Mass Effect fan.
@@SKinnyPete93 I think most of the people who were most responsible for “Anthem’s” shortcomings have left by now.
@@redjed100 The problem is everyone who made Bioware great are also gone..
@@SKinnyPete93 That is, unfortunately, true. BioWare won’t ever be the developer it was. But I hope that their work on the “Mass Effect” remaster bundle is a sign that they can be at least a _good_ developer again.
4 years later and nothing was ever done.
Really like these extended review discussions, keep them up
@@stealth1548you're a moron.
1. A person who is considered foolish or stupid. 2. A person with mild intellectual disability
@@thisguy9919 do you often cry this much? go play Anthem as you're obviously ass hurt about this review
@@shawnbergmann2638 bro this review is a joke just like you, a bunch of losers that talk sht a day of its release. Pathetic
@@thisguy9919 the tears continue
Agreed
As a developer who has worked in the industry, I can tell you that what most likely happened with anthem was a ton of corporate meddling. When bioware announced anthem, you could tell that the leads were passionate about making something that was a part of a clear vision. And these guys are not amateur developers, they've built extremely expansive games time and time again. They learned many of these lessions from making swtor and they were working with an engine which they already knew very well, frostbite (both da:I and me:a used frostbite 3.0).
The most logical chain of events in my mind is that due to the amount of fan hype, EA decided to take anthem apart so that they could sell it in pieces to the fans/players. This is something that actually happened with both of the destiny games as well. It's well documented that many pieces and systems from destiny two were actually supposed to be a part of destiny one. I believe that EA sat down and just pulled out the parts of the game that they assumed would be good to drip feed their player base. Elemental weapons, large world bosses, catacylsms, missions, strongholds, cosmetics, and probably even entire factions of enemies were removed so that this "live service" bullshit could work. Anthem has a somewhat satisfactory gameplay loop despite all of the balance problems and lack of choices and EA knows that that is enough to get some people hooked on a title even if there is no content at launch. It's also very likely that the pacing and balance issues exist because of the corporate meddling. When you remove entire systems of the game and rework others to make it more of a grind and a drip feed, you fundamentally change the balance of a game like this.
EA also knows that the whole live service thing doesn't work with triple A studios because these developers often release a title and then move on to the next one with only a few devs staying on to add minimal content patches. Fact is, once you've built the tooling for a game, it becomes extremely easy to make cosmetic content, new weapons and items, as well as new systems and levels for a game. Anyone who has played a game like Skyrim and has made a mod for a game like Skyrim can understand this logic. You don't need to invest a ton of money and effort into designing these things because the main game is already out there.
The only live service games that have worked are games with developers who are devoted to releasing content patches. Look at DotA 2 or path of exile or Warframe. The devs who work on Warframe only make Warframe (though they might be working on another game soon). GGG is constantly able to innovate on path of exile every 4 to 6 months because they have a full staff of developers constantly tinkering with the engine, with cosmetics, with items, skills, balance and new leagues and mechanics.
The point is, with anthem already released and deemed meh from a critical standpoint, it's unlikely that you will see changes to parts of the engine or to anything that requires new tooling to be built because it's too expensive both from a monetary standpoint and in terms of man hours. The best you can hope for after the initial 4 to 6 months post release is just a bunch of surface level stuff and content that is already either feature complete or almost feature complete. Aka content that was ripped from the game prior to release either due to the deadline or because of EAs meddling.
Oh and btw, the 6 year dev cycle was either due to a complete rebuild of the entire game or due to a rather large game rework as a result of corporate choices. Even if this game was completely rebuilt; they would have had most of the tooling to build it. EA and bioware's suits decided to release a skeleton game and they probably didn't play test it because they play tested a build that most likely is more feature complete.
Small note about GGG and PoE: they release a new league every 13 weeks.
Lets make this top comment or pin this Joe.
Only way to save this game now is to go FREE TO PLAY and provide folks who payed for full retail price get IN GAME STORE CREDIT WORTH as much as retail.
@@TheNocturnal1 that will never happend, since it would loose ea tons of money..
Abeltensor I couldn’t agree more about everything you said man. I do definitely believe that this isn’t the anthem BioWare wanted to make, at some point during development they had to of scrapped what they originally had and started over. It doesn’t even feel like a BioWare game the lacking story shows they didn’t get to make the game they wanted because BioWare always creates deep stores with tons of lore. And yea they forsure took out some content before releasing it, just like EA did with battlefront. Smh I’m worried that BioWare won’t survive this. This is 2 big games in a row that failed
"Are they going to fix this? Yes....eventually"
2 Y E A R S L A T E R
Guys I hate to say it, but this is partly on us!! We encourage developers with our wallets. In order to encourage change however, we need to make sacrifices and NOT BUY AT LAUNCH! Even if the game has this one cool feature that you love so much and boasts with top notch graphics.....take one for the team and DONT BUY! This goes especially to the younger players as you are their main demographic! Developers will have to come up with new exciting game concepts for an affordable price if they want to survive. And that's the message we need to send. I was working for a company that released an online version of a very beloved fantasy game in 2014, the greed and corporate approach of said company has completely ruined the launch and this entirely empty, maddeningly repetitive and ugly looking game is now free to play, however that was AFTER the fans had already spent full retail price PLUS season pass on this mess. If a game asks for a season pass DONT BUY! Does the game push in-game purchases on top of a full retail price? DONT BUY! I sticked to this since 2014 and have not only saved myself a lot of money but a lot of frustration. Reward the "God of War's", the "RDR2's", the "Breath of Wild's" as well as indie title such as "Far Lone Sails" and "Unravel" and only buy the AAA titles if you are truly convinced its a finished quality product.
don't buy just crack hahaa then buy later hhahahaha
This is a lot easier said than done for most ppl. Most ppl just go to the store after seeing these awesome ads/trailers on TV/online & when they see the box cover, they just reach for it & purchase it blindly. Just hoping it will live up to expectations. No reviews, no AJS, no twitch, nothing. Just based on "hmm I got some money, kinda bored of playing all the fortnite/cod/FIFA/Madden/apex, ooh anthem is out, that kinda looked like iron man + destiny in the commercials, looks pretty cool, let's try it out".
Most also don't really care about mtx & dlc/season passes in general. They don't think it's a good thing or bad thing. They have no opinion on it whatsoever. They just think it's how just how things are now. They're everywhere. And thus just accept it as part of the territory. I realize this is the exact problem you're describing but it's undeniable, most gamers are "casuals" or relatively "newcomers", meaning younger kids like you said, or ppl who got their 1st taste thru mobile gaming; they simply don't know of a time before all this when & where you got full fledged games the moment you bought them at release. No mtx, no paywalls, no constant online, no dlc's (expansions are a bit different), no ½ of a game excuse of an early access beta, no GAAS. It's a sad state of affairs for us older, more experienced gamers.
Im the type of guy who buys new games when i finnished one. I get bored easily and i dont have problems paying full price. But at least i watch trailers and reviews and play demos and free betas. And after playing the 10 hour Anthem Demo through EA access i knew after 6 hours that i dont pay my money on this. I bought RE2R instead. And im happy. Now i see my friends playing Anthem and i dont know why. Are they blind? Have they already blindly bought it and play it anyway. Or do they really have fun with this? I dont understand.
Seriaz Sound the whole thing is on gamers who keep buying this crap. It’s all the consumers’ fault.
Seriaz Sound haven’t bought a single new AAA game since 2015. The industry is so bad now.
BioWare: *my time has come*
adnan rafiqui sad cos there was a time after KOTOR jade empire and the first trailer and images of mass effect was released..everyone had only one thing to say..Can Bioware do no wrong...how the mighty have fallen
@@SS-yr3ij That continued until ME3
Activision: Hold my beer.
Myusername468 yea i know...but what iwas talking was before bioware became top dog...by the time of ME 3 Bioware was at its greatest with unrealistic expectations...the reason i picked that particular time before ME 1 abd after jade empire is cos that was time Bioware was raising the bar for everyone game after game after game..the peak is ME 2 and after the ME 3 back lash the slide began..actually it began after that EA fucker acquired them
and so have I
Thank you guys for the honest criticism! The release of Anthem really portrayed some of the worst practices of the current gaming industry and as you repeatedly pointed out they are not acceptable. I played the 10h trial on Origin but now I'm going to vote with my wallet and pass on this one.
10 hours of trail is far too long for this one.
@@shitmandood agreed. I put in an hour or two and I felt it was garbage. I wanted it to be good but it didn't take long to realize it was going to be bad.
my Xbox one's store had this as the show runner basically. Fuck Microsoft
Delrith needs to host a weekly podcast. The depth of his analysis is always amazing.
I feel kind of bad for him as he has a lot of good points and Joe seems to talk over him or is just waiting for him to stop talking so he can say what he wants instead of actually discussing it.
I want to watch a show abut him getting in shape and losing the neckbeard. You know you'd watch it too.
@Ah mommy you’re too tight For me! Ah mommy you're too fat for me
Besides he said warframe was better than BL2.
Whole f***ing gaming industry is in shambles. Loot boxes, micro transactions, mvps, greedy attitude all over. Sad...
how about you openyour eyes, instead og playing shit like this? dumbass
Thank god I dont play shitty AAA trash.
Good grind = a grind that makes the player WANT to replay certain parts to see what they can achieve.
Bad grind = a grind that makes the player HAVE to replay certain parts to achieve what they need to. (No personal fulfilment, or personal challenge)
Coulsnt have said it better
Bad grind: No Pride and Accomplishment.
Lewis Lemay look at how many people replay dark souls lmao and anthem fucked up this badly
Perfectly put
Word. I enjoyed destiny 2 forsaken because the gameplay is just fucking fun
2:15
Joe: “What’s the best looter shooter? I already know the answer.”
Me: Borderlands borderlands borderlands borderlands
Joe: “Borderlands 2.”
YOU’RE GOD DAMN RIGHT.
Yep
but warframe though :(
@@Sercotani yeah but you don't earn guns in that game, you earn all kinds of resources, but gear is kind of a bitch to come by, especially in later levels.
@@Sercotani Every enemy and lootable source in Borderlands 2 had a chance (although a small one) to drop a legendary. Even the blue's and purples had special effects(bullet ricochet, bullets ignore shields, self heal for damaging enemies), with different weapon manufacturers that had weapon specific attributes (ex:bandit=large magazine, hyperion= the more you fire the more accurate it gets, torgue= EXPLOSIONS??? Etc.) Not to mention diverse characters with in depth skill trees.
Damn diablo immortal dev giving tips to Anthem ahahahahaha
AJ: I dont want my game review to be more than 1h20m long. Days later, make a Extended review for the same game just about 1 hour 10 mins.....well played
Don't worry CDPR will show these big time developers how to make a complete masterpiece of a game...... Or NOT
This did not age well. 😂
Cdpr made like one amazing game ever, people overate them too much
@@datiger39 Since 2016, I can’t tell you how toxic CDPR fans were until cyberglitch 2077 came out and humble them. 😬 😆
"You pick your face and you never see it again." lol epic
It's like real life but without mirrors.
Straight lie. You see your face serval times.
@@BrandonLesleeTV you know they played the fuck out of this game on stream. You literally cant lie with evidence 😂😂
@@BrandonLesleeTV grasping at straws lol
Unless you equip the default helmet you never see your face during cutscenes and during the suit up loading screens. All other helmets stay closed for some reason.
I love the group discussions like this.
Agreed but i really wanna see other joe speak up more and voice his opinions. That being said i would have a hard time as well talking over Joe/Del lol they get so hyped up and OJ is always chilling back like a boss
@@jeffreysendall3971 fax
@@jeffreysendall3971 Joe obviously knows what OJ is going to say. They with each other all the time, Joe's Intel is from his team. He just voices for them.
Love it!
This video aged well
I miss the days where DLC and patches weren't possibly so video game developers had to first put the ENTIRE GAME AND ALL IT'S CONTENT ON THE DISK and make sure that is was tested and playable before putting it on shelves.
Wasn't that a wonderful time? No strings attached, no stupid updates, no big installs, no extra services, season passes, microtransactions, you just put the disc in and started playing without a loading screen to even get in the way.
I'm sick and tired of modern gaming. I hardly even buy most games for these reasons. The old days did it best. The craft was treated more seriously
Can we have a moment of silence for everyone who pre ordered this game
Someone on the Internet no they deserve the shit pile they ordered
No empathy for those useful idiots.
fuck you idiots that pre order. pre ordering needs to die.
If they were dum enough and couldnt see how bad this game gonnaa be than i am not sorry for that to bad ea got their money
Legion of dawn edition here...
One quick note on the MVP part: a minimum viable product in software development is usually used for proving a concept to a client by building a functioning app that does the bare minimum, and providing a "base" for future development sprints. The reason for this is that sometimes clients don't want to go all in on a product and want to set milestones that they pay for instead of committing long term to an entire full scale development cycle(which is a lot of money). In a consumer context this would mean that we'd pay 5-10 dollars for Anthem's current version and decide after playing if we want to commit to future content in the form of DLCs/upgrades(5-10 bucks per DLC). Now the problem here is that we pay 60$ which is FULL PRICE for an MVP, this translates directly to : pay me the entire project NOW and hope that I fix it/deliver on what we agreed. If you'd say this as a developer to any client they would just laugh like hell at you and tell you to fuck off.
wouldnt even pay 5 dollars for this
might as well be a kickstarter game right?
@@MaadDawg97 id pay a minimum of 15 dollars for the current state
Yes as a regular software client. But gamers will apparently buy any shit game studios throw at them. My only hope is that Fallout 76 and Anthem are the wake up calls the community needed.
You guys pay 30 euro for PUBG and want to pay 5-10 for this smh.
If you can dislike this video and defend this game you're an EA fanboy and can't handle any criticism and that's a fact.
Female Narrator:"Revolutionary story telling in a multiplayer game"
Me: you mean warframe?
And I barely know what the fuck is even going on
Thats only recently. I started with WF 2 months after launch, when they had the browser launcher. And there was no story, besides Prime codex entries, for years. Which im glad they took serious time to realize where they wanted their story to go, made it all the much better.
@@valen9835 Black Ops are examples of revolutionary storytelling? Ok lol
*grabs snack box*
Now, I'm ready.
Hand some to me
Count me in
Smokes a bowl
Now I’m Ready
I want some of that chitlin I love Pigs Feet
@@Solidus_25 ya got cash, bub?
Least we can all agree that EA doesn't stand for Electronic Arts anymore but for Early Access
2 hours total of AJ ripping on Anthem. Completely deserved.
They fixed it the only way EA could by cancelling the whole damned thing.
Im loving the fact that theres a discussion after the Angry review the longer the better !!!
Anthem is probably the best loading screen simulater.9/10- Too much gameplay
I revisited this discussion because it's relevant after BF 2042. How much does someone want to bet 2042 gets abandoned also?
Saving my money for Cyberpunk 2077.
good!
Have to get mk11 then I'll wait for cyberpunk on the pc side of things. If we talking nintendo then that's a different story lol.
Saving mine for Dying Light 2
WAR BLACKJACK same and ghost recon breakpoint
@@fire-du8jr don't save your money for breakpoint it's garbage
Don't let the review distract you from little joe's tattoo moving
It's "Other Joe". Little Joe lol
Nicolas Rochester ooo shit its true jajajaja👀
I can't stop staring at it. What is it suppose to be anyway? I watched the whole video and still couldn't figure out what they were. The top one sort of looks like a scorpion. 34:03 Tried to look at the bottom one upside down. It sort of looks like an ant or spider inside of a ring that has rope coming off of it, when he is resting his arm. I could be completely wrong and just see it in a weird way.
@@bsherder One of them's supposed to be a ship or something, dunno about the one on the forearm, and it's messing with the greenscreen behind them.
Heh, it came with its own unintentional censor bar. It's become a Japanese porn star XD
As Jim Sterling put it: The best thing about this game is the shitshow thats surrounding it. Tons of videos to watch and laugh about :)
I love that crusty bastard
SweetJesus All are mostly full of shit though. Sorry to say. Not the best game... but it really isn’t that bad.
@@jackgraham3 it has fun game play thats it what loot does it have? none its copy paste what story does it have none its just a shell to hold the free play and what end game does it have again none it has 3 missions that can be done fairly quickly if this aint that bad i would hate to see a truly awe full game is
Agreed
Jack Graham yeah. It has loads of legit criticism but too many people are getting off on overly hating the next game for views.
This is a common practice in my office as well. Our project manager asked us to design "pieces" of a school that would be visible in renderings to market to the client to get them to invest, but they would eventually use a completely different designer and the district would ALWAYS get a downgrade of what was marketed.
That should be illegal
Back in 2021....for the comments lol
Saw an ad for Warframe on this vid.....best ad placement ever XDDDD
I'm literally downloading it as I watch.
Ninjas play free
ad*
I really wish EA didn't get lucky with Apex... would have rather seen them go bankrupt and sell off all their assets...
EA didnt develop Apex they had no hand in it.
Respawn has the hands over Apex not ea.
Doesn't matter. Respawn is still under EA.
I know 😡
EA has no had in Apex, bc they didn’t develop it? So then EA had no hand in Anthem bc they didn’t develop it, BioWare did. But EA owns BioWare, just like they own Respawn. Those comments make 0 sense.
Man does this criticism of the game AND the defenders really demonstrates how every single opportunity to give a company the "benefit of the doubt" is a choice that is NOT IN YOUR BEST INTEREST. Imagine being someone that defends roadmaps in 2023....
It's astonishing
Coming back 3 years later lmaooo anthem was such a fucking shitty game & i loved this review when it first came out
Wasn't this game an excuse on why Andromeda was bad, didn't they say they where putting in more time developing this and that's why Andromeda facial animations where so bad, or am i mistaken?
Two excuses actually:
Anthem
Zelda
The reason why animations and the game glitched and crashed so much pretty much all lands on the fact that BioWare couldn’t work with the FrostBite engine.
They had and still have a lot of problem working with it as it’s not meant to be used the way it’s currently being used.
Everyone who works for EA is forced to work with this engine since it’s such a “darn diddly”-amazing engine with absolutely no cause for improvement.
BioWare that made Anthem is not the BioWare that made Andromeda. Neither of these two were the same BioWare whom made DA: Origins or Mass Effect 1-2.
They are a husk of their former selves, and I truly pity those whom still works for BioWare after all these years and really tries to make a decent product in the wake after all that has happened and are gunned down and scrutinized at every turn.
R.I.P BioWare of Old
@@BigHailFan Wait what does Zelda have to do with anything?
They blamed BotW for taking sales away from them. XD
Funny, right? A completely different sort of game focusing on a completely different audience on a completely different system is the reason they didn't do better. It still makes me laugh. XD
If the game is not fun, why bother? - reggie
It has potential. They done fucked it up though!
It could have worked a lot better as a single player game. But it can't be monetized that much sooo... They released a mediocre unfinished game.
@ you're absolutely right
Are you quoting radical reg?
It's fun the content is just lacking. Its a perfect game for me considering outside of work I get maybe 10 hours a week to play video games.
It is fun, did you see how Del was at loss for words when asked why he spent 70+ hours just doing the Tyrant mine stronghold? Because the game is fun! The heart and soul of this game which is its Combat, maneuvering, combos, taking on hordes of enemies and feeling bad ass while doing it is legit fun! Of course he won’t admit it to joe cuz he’s a Slave while joe is his owner. Lol lets be real!
Every time I get temptation to buy this when it goes on sale for less than 8 pounds, I turn to this video to come to my senses
The roadmap: “so that was a lie” 😂
Wait IGN gave it 6.5/10, Did they actually forget to pay off IGN?
Jay Ross wow I didn't believe until I googled it, if IGN gave it that, the game is a bigger lost cause than I thought
Considering most ppl gave it a 4 or 5, maybe they did pay off IGN and they just couldn’t bring themselves to go any higher than 6.5? 😂
But in all seriousness, I’d have given the game a solid 6
@Mr.fringles K yes hence why they rate even crap games a 7 or 8 but if anthem couldnt even reach that in their eyes, the game needs a lot of work to bounce back.
Or maybe they wanted to avoid pissing off the hate train, because IGN.
@@deleteexistence6175 they give maddens and call of dutys 9s every year. They don't care about hate trains
It’s too bad man. So much potential. I WANTED it to succeed. But of course EA...
I blame them, I have a feeling they rushed the developers to get this game out there.
iamjohnporter67
6 year rush lol they just needed more help with the game.
Motive studios helped them last minute
I say both EA and BioWare at fault EA for being the greedy bastards they are and BioWare for not testing and properly making the game semi competent I feel as if that EA wasn’t involved,BioWare had time to put effort into their game and had publisher that cared about the consumer anthem could’ve been a decent game
why'd you expect anything more than dogshit from EA?
@@velvetmidnight9535 it's like andromeda studio B want to make greate thing and lose time and i think it's the same with anthem and don't forget that almost every old dev have leave Bioware
I have posted this before...but these sit down discussions are bad ass. Would love a podcast style discussion like this to become something a bit more regular. Love the channel AJ, have for years now and I'm glad that Del and OJ are supporting!
Not buying anymore EA games... They seem to always fail.
Their Fifa and Madden series seem to be doing fine
@@quickscopeoneeighty9158 I wouldn't go that far, both of those series can be fun yet they are literally way way to many microtransactions that can cost thousands of dollars for everything. They have entire teams locked behind a paywall which is stupid and greedy.
@@cartermorris9219 That's what I'm saying. Because of how fun they are, they aren't failing like Anthem and Battlefield/ Battlefront. So they're still relevant and they dont have organized boycotts
It took you this long to realize that? LOL ok
You wouldn't buy a car in February if you didn't get the wheels til June. Don't understand how people can defend this game when they've made content and took it out to keep people waiting, playing & paying in to it. The Witcher 3 is one of the best games that created a product and then added a whole games worth of content for a small fee extra, thats how these major companies should go about making these games. People today are stilling paying witcher, a game that has been out for nearly 5 years. I understand the two games are different genres but the foundations of the games stay the same.
Stay away from EA and Activision games.. They're already too big.
Those who defend it would say "Well I am having a lot of fun in the car even without the wheels, I can sit in it and laugh with Friends, I can store stuff in the boot, the wheels are just an added bonus later to help make traversal better"
Laughing? Only if it drops from a loot box. Man... They got lucky!! I've been playing for 60+ hours and I've only just unlocked "New Car Smell"
@@adamquin07 Yes but there are better places than the car for that
It blows my mind how people defend this stuff seriously, they are somehow happy with a shell of a product and act like just because they have low standards and are happy with it (the stupid friends line as well, doing anything with friends is more fun even playing in dog shit) that its acceptable. I don't understand how people can be happy with this, all they are buying is the frame and waiting months for the rest, if you have to wait months after the games launch to have a full game the game shouldn't have launched months prior.
Or the best is they say you are just a hater/part of outrage culture etc. Yeah, screw me for wanting quality from AAA companies, how dare I criticize them when they try to pull this stuff.
I really like this chilled out type of discussions on games
Different content than I'd expect from the "Angry" Joe show
I like it too
Very good to just chill and chat about it.
My question is...
What did people expect? At this point, it's become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
wow when joe said it was like a skeleton crew made it he manage to predict what actually happened before this information was discovered
This is a visceral breakdown of what happens when making money takes precedent over everything else
They pissed away Dragon Age and Mass Effect to make this boring turd called Anthem.
Short term money.
There's nothing wrong with making money. Good games do that. Anthem is going to lose money
navyrotc2012 The sad reality is that I guarantee you this game will make more money than previous games like mass effect that have been well received by fans. Games as a service and online gaming in general make a steady income for greedy developers because so many stupid people pay for micro transactions and dlc.
The game may not perform as well as they had hoped but they will make serious bank over its lifespan. This is why companies don't care about the quality or put in the time to finish of their games properly, it's all about pumping games out and filling them with micro transactions to keep those dollars rolling in.
We can only hope that one day enough people will stop buying this crap..
Oh man... I don't know if it was intentional or not but just the use of the word visceral made me think of the comparison between this and dead space 3. And that bioware is probably going to go the way of visceral games after this.
You dont know what happened to Anthem?
I do.
Battlefront 2
Anthem fully intended to be massively microtransaction filled, but the negative press forced them to reconsider all the products in the line up.
Unfortunately for them, they had already announced and shown off Anthem.
This was definitely a part of the problem,
The other issue is that the content they’re talking about in this video as seen in the trailers (in engine) likely didn’t ever exist in the first place. Because the way videogame development works is that they have a team attempting to make a playable version and a separate team working on the full game. So the people working on the playable version are using the code from the full game team, then adding onto it to make it work and display.(they often add in partial features that may be coming in the future but get scrapped)
i don't think this is the main reason, there is still just bad loot, they would have better more interesting weapons by now if they intended to hide them behind microtransactions, the chopped up and rearranged story is also not a reason of changing the microtransactions due to the SW BF2 fail. the biggest problem is as in so many titles these days is that it's incomplete and completely rushed.
Good point. BF2 shit show would have happened right when production would have been coming to an end. So they had to pull stuff out and redesign.
How low does a person need to be to actually skip lines in order to make a click bait out of a youtube comment?
TFW there's an ad for Anthem right before watching a video about how bad Anthem is.
It's sad that Sonic Adventure in 1998 had moving NPCs that had their own storylines that progressed as you do.
The whole "Games as a Service" just needs to die already.
It’s only getting started, saldy. At least we still have great single player games.
@@LuccatielD7 Single player games are the only reason im still playing.
The only purpose of service games is to make games with less content and more microtransactions.
Makoto Niijima the idea behind games as a service is good but every company that’s tried to do it has failed due to greed and bad management I bet if a good , games as a live service game comes out people will be saying the opposite
It honestly is, wait till May for a cataclysm...........you gotta be kidding me......and people paid $80 😂
Borderlands 2 is the best looter shooter
No 1 was. I hated the vehicle traveling in 2. So boring
I'm Vonn blow every bodies mind but Anthem isnt a looter shooter. It's just a an rpg that happens to have shooting and loot. The game is about your skills not shooting.
The drop in drop out in borderlands was awesome
Iv been stoned playing borderlands 2 in vr for the past week. Fucking great game
I have to download it again
Or how about the bug where you LOD items disappear from your inventory and you have to reinstall the game completely for it to show up again.. only to realize that once you get it back it disappears again after the first mission you do.
"Are they going to fix this? yes..."
...About that.
Borderlands 2 > Anthem
Joe knows wasup
Yea his fat paycheck courtesy of the hate train.
Its about the "LOOT" u stupid fuck.
A pile of shit > Anthem
Destiny 1! Cough cough
Ferdinando Lopez I think people misinterpreted your comment but I agree too. Then again, I'm not complying because of the classic confirmation bias fallacy :)
I feel bad for whoever preordered that game except not really because they should know better by now
Why feel bad, I really like the game. You should try it
@@CitiusVanen I would buuuuuutttt EA
I like it I preordered it I enjoy it only thing I don't enjoy is the unstable servers
I regret nothing and I'm loving it
Only lonely guys enjoy shitty games, it's a reflection of their social lives.
Funny thing is I bought Anthem because I play a ton of Warframe and wanted a break.....then Warframe had an update. They just released it's first season event called Wolf of Saturn Six, a playlist almost of daily and weekly task to earn special rewards. I probably haven't touched Anthem since, what I did instead was go mining and fishing in WFs open world and after a somewhat stressful endeavor I feel immensely satisfied, because I have crafted a brand new item that can kill the current bosses of the game without spending any real life currency. I guess this is just me saying I bought Anthem to take a break from WF, but ended up having a really great week in WF instead. Lol
I just can't get into Warframe. The fact that you just gather the stuff to make what you want as opposed to getting loot through drops just makes me get bored. Id prefer a grind to get a legendary item where I end up with 50+ commons( not referring to anthem BTW) while I'm working towards that is more fun to me. Warframe is fun for me for a little while but I just can't stay interested.
@Pien pien WarFrame is a ghost game now? It still has more players than Anthem, and many other games.
@@wilhelm2112ryan But that's the whole point of it. Working towards an objective, you just want the easy way. You work for those items, and you end up killing bosses so much better.
@@tiagoviana263 lol "want the easy way" NOTHING in warframe is anything other than easy. Its grind is so so so boring. Warframe is one of the best free games ill say that but compared to almost any other game with a grind I personally feel like its lacking. Ive just never been interested in a solely crafting based grind is all.
@@wilhelm2112ryan But why is it boring? You still didn't give me any reason for it. You're suposed to put time and effort into it, so that in the end you're rewarded with something awesome
I like this layout, it's like a videogame podcast, pretty cool
I really enjoy these extended reviews, you share honest criticism while also sharing your own personal opinions on what you think games in the future should be. Keep it up guys!
Andromeda has it's problems but it's a decent game. The story is far superior to Anthem.
These aren't his opinions, these are clickbait opinions. These Anthem rants of his have destroyed my confidence in him a legitimate reviewer.
@@goatwarrior3570 I highly disagree, just because you don't like what he says doesn't make his opinions invalid.
@@goatwarrior3570 Some of the things stated within this video are his opinions however, he also pointed out actual facts about the gameplay. Is that not what a reviewer does?
You can play 900 hours of Anthem.
850 of them will be *loading screens*
Anthem: Reloaded its sequel will be Anthem: Unloaded
I think that’s too harsh... it’s more like 849 hours... so got you???
XD
👁️👄👁️
So I can't get a refund on PSN because I've already downloaded the game😒. This is not a $80 experience.
Anybody else here, rewatching these old reviews like they're podcasts episodes while they do stuff?
Joe: are they gonna fix it? Yes
EA: excuse me?