Yup, and then advertisements are going to be labeling it "ThE bEsT mArVeL mOvIe SiNcE eNdGaMe, Or BeSt MaRvEl MoViE yEt" like they do every year a new MCU film comes out.
@@kingt0295 Ahhh that's cos he spends SOME of the movie chasing after our misguided misfit band of set up anti-heroes. So get gets his antagonist power ups back temporarily to make it work. Honestly a REAL OG thunderbolts movie would have been awesome, was a fantastic concept. I don't loathe the "Marvels answer to suicide squad" version either. But I always thought that the original premise was cool. I might not hate the MCU thunderbolts as much as I suspect, but it's gonna be hard for me to root for the obvious swaps schlops and shit ones. No amount of john "He did nothing fucking wrong" walker. Will change that.
The real failing of TFWS is the HUBRIS of forgetting that the audience were either comic fans, MCU fans, or normies who had already seen the characters and interchanges (like the CW move your seat thing). Instead we got Bucky nerfed and Falcon turned into a pompous @ss. I actually hurt for the actors. Meanwhile even Zemo's valet had more fun.
If you have to re-write and re-shoot your movie because of "cultural changes" over the course of a year or two, then your movie was too far toward the edge of the socially acceptable window to begin with. Most movies from a century ago still fall within the acceptable window, even in times as insane as our own.
Well, to be fair, if they would have a that full on Israeli outfit, I can see how that could anger certain group of people and boycot the movie result in loss of profits. Its like when GTA 3 was being developed and it was supposed to be New York but then got changed to a vague Liberty City after the terrorist attacks on September 11.
Casablanca still holds up. You can watch it with zero historical context and know the good guys from the bad guys from the might be a good guy but we don't know yet.
And it's actually at least the third title for the movie. People must have blocked the original title Feige announced ("Captain America: Serpent Society") from their memories.
"Some MF'ers are always trying to ice skate uphill." Blade called the state of the MCU out before it even existed. Truly a visionary. And that line always goes hard.
That's true. The real Captain America wears an olive drab uniform decorated with every medal the US could come up with... and one borrowed from the French.
Captain America 4: Saving Agent Carter. Where Steve Rogers spends his time saving Peggy Carter's behind all while trying to keep his identity a secret because he is still on ice for another 50 years. You could even tie in the ending to Endgame as he does all of this before knocking on her front door and dancing with her in her living room.
I was thinking the same thing lol. I love that show, and I love whenever it gets referenced. I still use many of the lessons they taught me. It doesn't get even half the credit it deserves.
Disney really seems to think that, with enough time and the censorship of everything actually enjoyable, people will somehow magically start to think the polished turds are chocolate. It's adorable, honestly.
i remember when falcon and the winter soldier was over, it was announced the same writer and director would be making the fourth movie and i immediately cringed and knew we were in for it and it wouldnt be good. sometimes i hate being right about Marvel
It's not just Marvel. I believe that people are also getting tired of all the superhero stuff that studio's keep pushing out even while they're out of original idea's and are trying hard to push some kind of message into their crap. The last 5 movies i've seen i practically knew the plot and the ending within the first 5 minutes. Take wolfs as an example, i knew within a few minutes in the hotel scene it was a setup. If writers have no original idea's, and some 'community' tries to push an agenda through, and the studio's try to please everyone, you know it's going to be bad. Hubris. And that always ends the same way.
Ahnd Falcon was never much in the limelight or given much character depth for the roll of someone representing an entire countries base ideals, Captain America. He isn't a shallow character or a bad one by any means, but he's nothing near Steve Rogers, or honestly Bucky either... I don't like going straight to these kind of claims, as it's a bit tired in the western culture landscape today, but making Falcon become Captain America really did feel like it was primarily about Falcon having dark skin, and it being a giant virtue signal, more so than it was for Falcon's character.
And he's already got his own distinctive set of powers in his wingsuit. An indestructible frisbee doesn't do anything that he hasn't already got with his missiles, drones etc. so it's REALLY obvious that it's only intended to be symbolic.
@@boomguitarjared He deserved his own arc and movie just as much as Bucky did. The reality of the situation is they shoulda got that together and been each other's Steve Rodgers and became battle buddies in his absence filling that void for one another and keeping each other accountable and on the straight and narrow (the same as a proper armed forces battle buddy). All we needed was an old school 90's style throwback black and white feelgood buddy cop movie that didn't overtly preach and just showed two bros being bros, not some divisive institutionalized/inherent racism regressive woke mind-virus nonsense everyone was sick and tired of hearing about years and years ago...
I just don't understand why they couldn't just leave Falcon as just Falcon. The character could already stand on its own so why make him derivative? As for Bucky, yeah pretty much.
Having him being Captain America not just destroys Falcon, it's also a downgrade for Captain America, because Falcon is much weaker than the original Captain America. He is no super soldier.
That scene in The Winter Soldier were brainwashed Bucky takes the shield from Cap in the middle of the fight still haunts me to this day... Bucky should have been the one
You can tell at that point, the russo's knew what they were doing. Knew the canonical lore of him being the next captain america eventually and... fantastically tied it into a fucking slick "villain flex" AND a nod to that upcoming storyline. When he straight up caught the shield and immediately stared steve down after he did it. Which up until then NOBODY had been able to do. Showing clearly, without any exposition. That it obviously wasn't just his arm that was enhanced as part of the winter soldier program. THIS was right on the back of a great chase scene where steve is literally fucking parkouring along internal walls and fucking steamrolling through wall/doors, reinforcing yet again in the movie. Steve is fucking JUICED because of the serum and almost beyond human. It's kinda fucking ruined by the tope of "Bad guy jumps off rooftop then disappears" which is funny but worn out. But the rest of that scene, was fucking awesome.
@@hellkaiser2009 that movie is by far my fav of the mcu right after the first iron man, such well done fight scenes all round and was just a really good movie overall
@@hellkaiser2009 'When he straight up caught the shield and immediately stared steve down after he did it. Which up until then NOBODY had been able to do. Showing clearly, without any exposition. That it obviously wasn't just his arm that was enhanced as part of the winter soldier program.' Got chills reading this. Shame on the MCU for doing an utter bait and switch. Bucky held the shield in First Avenger, Winter Soldier and Civil War and would have been perfect given the Brubaker comic run, so what did they do? Gave it to Sam, of course.
I remember at the end of End Game everyone thought Cap was going to give the shield to Bucky. And when he gave it to Falcon, nobody clapped, nobody cheered. Instead there were audible gasps and a lot of people going huh, weird, why. One guy even shouted this is bs. Nobody in the audience liked that decision, which was proof enough that Disney did not care what their audience liked, only what message they wanted to push on them
From a production standpoint, the biggest problem with Falcon as Cap is his wings. His ability to fly makes the sky his battlefield and that balloons the budget, whereas Cap was literally grounded so they could do a lot of practical fight scenes like the elevator fight or the staircase fight.
My main issue is when during the whole Avengers saga up until Endgame did Falcon show any qualities that Steve thought he deserved the mantle of the next Captain America, its like he just wanted to retire and was like "eh, you take it" giving it to his 2nd sidekick because Bucky wouldn't have it.
Also...the idea of a non'superhuman Captain America is weird. Some people forget it...but Steve Rogers wasn't just a strong man with a shield, he was a super-soldier. A man whose...everything...had been amplified beyond human limits, from his body to his mind. The falcon...has wings he didn't even build himself...and a shield... It feels weird to make him a major super-hero...when he's not "super".
I made a similar point in my comment... however if I can insert a [1] Cought [2] Batman [3] cough here just to make the point that its not necessarily the lack of powers, its Captain American being powerless thats the problem
Along with all the excellent points why Bucky would have made a more logical choice for successor, is the fact that he also was dosed with the super soldier serum. So he’s like Cap in strength and indestructibility. Sam simply isn’t; he’s a human who never had super powers. But just like Black Widow, they’re forgetting that and going to have him do unrealistic stuff anyway.
I attended the test screening, I don’t know what everyone’s whining about. When Captain America, Aladdin and Jasmine started singing “A Brave New World”, the audience went into a standing ovation for twenty minutes and everybody cried. Truly stunning and brave.
Good points all about Bucky, but there's just one thing keeping him from taking up the mantle of Captain America: Sebastian Stan isn't Disney's favorite color.
Oh, wait a minute he’s not the same color as Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, Tom Holland, Chris Hemsworth Paul Rudd? Are you serious with this? Damn snowflakes man. One black character means Disney hates yt people 😂😂😂😂 clowns
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@@TobiBurger-w2g there's nothing wrong with batgirl. but everything was wrong with the film they were going to make that they wanted to slap the batgirl brand on. at least they understood that the people who will need to buy tickets to see the movie weren't interested in a movie promoting a certain message instead of being about the things the comics were. so they decided to trow the whole movie into the bin, instead of making a(n even bigger) fool of themselves by having it hit the theaters and becoming another flop, while also destroying the batgirl brand for at least a generation.
@@Chaorchy unless you were on the production team, you literally can’t know if it was done well. No one ever saw the film, and all copies were deleted. And, no, a movie that deliberately race-swaps the lead is by definition not well done.
I think that's what the reshoots are all about, they were probably hedging their bets on a Harris victory and didn't realize how much of the country thought otherwise
Edit: How are people saying oh the comics failed so he’s bad. No he failed because of the message, that’s my point. No one would care if there wasn’t a message. Treat black characters as they do white, focusing on the character and DEVELOPMENT; unless in a historic setting and real. What’s so hard to not grasp? Nah there isn’t, Steve gave him the shield in endgame people were hyped when it happened and it’s in the comics. Steve Rogers is the best sure but Sam could have been good and no one would have cared if there was no message and focused him on actually being Captain America.
I remember the reason I completely dropped out of the Marvel Subreddit was because, among other things, I pointed out that Bucky Barnes was the absolute perfect choice to become Cap's successor, for most of the reasons the Drinker laid out in the video but also because they had spent years building towards it (before the Falcon tv series). I mean it wasn't so much an easy lay-up as a complete slam dunk. But no! They had to go with Budget Basement Will Smith and his attempts at snark. I'm likely not going to watch this movie but I will enjoy watching the critics absolutely blast this movie to the ground. Oh and fun fact, there is a possibility this movie does make it to the record books though. At a minimum cost of 375 million USD, Cap 4 would be somewhere near the top 5 most expensive movies ever made. Presuming it earns a fairly respectable 400 million USD world wide, it would go down in history as one of, not the absolute, biggest flops in cinema... So congratulations, I guess? Lastly, let's also remember that not only is Red Hulk the main antagonist, he's played by a jaded octogenarian Harrison Ford, who (probably) wants nothing more than to finally get a good night's sleep and not having to get up every 3 hours to pee. Yeah this is going to be a complete shitshow.
I can just imagine the writers room, with some absolutely fed up exec who has been crunching the numbers and lost 10 years off his lifespan. Primarily due to stress of it all. Screaming at them: "Once again, I am not gonna point fingers. But I am asking you all ONE more time. Please... for the love of all that is fucking holy, stop with the not so subtle political statements you absolute fucking morons! YOU LOST"
As a software developer... I just too often tell to companies "I told you so", when they decide to "continue development" instead of rewriting their software from ground up, so i'm not surprised at all.
@@saurontrollbrawlyou’re asking a random guy on TH-cam to stretch his neck out and recommend you, who is also random guy on TH-cam for a job at his company?? You’re delusional lol
I'm a whitw dude, and my favorite Marvel movie is STILL Blade. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the MCU films I watched, but Blade still outshines them in my opinion. When I finally got around to watching Infinity War, I didn't know who half the characters were because of all the subtle and not-so-subtle changes, to say nothing of not having seen half the movies because I didn't know they existed.
was wondering... did Falcon at some point have super soldier serum... or are we pretending that a normal human can stop a hulk punch with a shield...i know it absorbs quite a bit of energy but that seems off...
Sam already has two shields which are his wings, they're also blades, he has guns, missiles, and a drone that has those too. WTF did he need a shield for? Bucky should be Cap. He's America personified. Damaged, used, flawed, led astray and seeking redemption, he's also a super soldier and has a bionic arm, falcon was a great character as he was he didn't need anything else.
@@oXRaptorzXo Yeah, i wonder if a TV show can be made arround that idea and Falcon's resentment for not being choose as Cap's replacement... Maybe Falcon and the winter soldier as title for the show... Mmmm 🤔
Literally, I remember when I used to get stressed out by how far away an awesome Marvel movie was from its release, nowadays it doesn’t even phase me anymore.
Theee films are out of date the second they hit production. They greenlit all of these shows five years ago banking that certain elections would be won and that certain messaging would have been secured.
DEI seems to encompass the practice of throwing all proven methods out of the window, and letting people with zero to little skill make all of the decisions. It is going to be the countries most expensive lesson.
@@eatyourveggies_ Unless it happens during the film in some way? Which wouldn't surprise me AT ALL btw. Nope... So it's basically black widow all over again. /cue the scene where she falls off a fucking building, absolutely demolishing herself physically on the way down, hitting multiple objects like vents and stuff. Then lands on her fucking feet, and then proceeds to act like it's just a bit sore. I know, I know... similar happened in deadpool and wolverine with johnny storm, but you kinda give it a pass because it's a fucking comedy and you expect a bit of OTT slapstick. It was an obvious gag from start to finish and everyone was in on the joke. THIS however, is trying to be grounded a gritty, so Captain america: Winter soldier essentially in tone, but then they have him basically doing superhuman shit. I saw a few clever ideas in the trailer that LOOKED cool as fuck. But then you remember yet again, he's NOT superhuman. So it's not possible for him to do that and no suspension of disbelief will change that.
The best point you make is how this movie has been a barometer for the culture changes in the industry in real time. Super bad timing for them but nice for us. I just want my Falcon back. He was in my top 5 MCU favorites. Utility and personality.
That’s what it all boils down to really? Falcon is simply a human at peak performance, yet he’s clearly doing super human feats in this trailer that are simply impossible. They nerfed the hell out of him, which makes absolutely zero sense and it’s a direct insult to the fandom.
When you mentioned the insufferable monologue from Falcon and Winter Soldier, I knew you were going to play that stupid clip. THANK YOU for cutting it off early!
Why would the MCU introduce the Red Hulk at this time? Such is a foolish plan made by foolish writers! Not only did the MCU utterly fail: 1. to demonstrate the two immutable Hulk laws (i.e., "The madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets!" and "Hulk is the strongest one there is!"), 2. to represent the Hulk's incredible mythos, and 3. to present a sufficient Hulk backstory, BUT ALSO, the MCU utterly failed: 1. to demonstrate Bruce Banner's mental health issues (i.e., child abuse and multiple personality disorder), and 2. to present the multitude of Hulk centered villains, such as The Leader, Gold-Bug, Modok, Brother Billy, etc., and non villians such as Doc Sampson, Rick Jones, etc. Got sense?
Anyone else notice the clip of falcon breaking the sound barrier wearing nothing but goggles? Pretty sure the atmospheric drag at that speed will remove the skin from your face… 3:59
This is kinda sad, because Captain America: Winter Soldier is actually the movie that got me into the MCU. Aside from Iron Man, I thought most of it was shlock, but that first Russo Bros movie totally changed my mind on the quality that these movies could have. Who could have thought that 10 years later, the franchise would be nothing but a shell of it's former self, waaay past its high point both in terms of quality and audience interest.
I think everyone recognises just how damned fucking slick and well written winter soldier was. By no means the greatest thing to ever be made, but for a fucking cape flick? By fuck it was a damn good spy thriller first with some cool superhero shit as flavour. Same with Logan really.
@@GH-ub7qz very true, the netflix shows were great. It’s amazing what marvel can accomplish when they’re not trying to saturate your ear canal with cheesy jokes and one liners.
Nah lost respect for him when he started bashing Harry Potter saying it wasn't 'diverse enough'. Said if he made it now he'd want pretty much want every character a POC. Apparently a film set in the UK having a predominantly white cast is unacceptable to him.
exactly! Either it's all ok or none of it is ok. Just you know, write good new black characters like Blade etc. Anyway I do like the new green witch in wicked with the flat nose and big nostrils.
Brave New World? Like the Adolphus Huxley novel where hedonists are pushed to be excited for new product so they can consume new product and completely ignore just how crappy their lives were?
They should just title it NOT Captain America: This Guy is Much Cheaper. A little honest in advertising would go a long way. I guess Disney would have saved hundreds of millions just paying Chris Evans after all.
There is only one Capt America. This insane DEI clamoring for black representation by deleting white characters only to inject a black one in the exact same space is exhausting! No backstory, no telling of what it took to make the hard climb to become the hero he is today. Nope, just a schlub off the Harlem streets stumbled across or stole some armor or secret sauce that some white guy had been successfully using for 80 years and then announced "I've been THAT hero all along!" JHC, I just saw part of a newly released animation with Wonder Woman walking down a corridor talking to da hood Steve Trevor. Wtf is this crap going to stop?? In case it has been missed to those in a creative industry, there is ABSOLUTE FREEDOM and availability to make new, interesting, and ORIGINAL POC characters and storylines. Not one thing stopping you!
What was cool about the early MCU was how everything was connected and played into each other. Now it’s overbloated and not even internally consistent anymore...
Let’s face it, the reviews for this movie are gonna be better than the actual film.
I'm just waiting for the memes to happen.
The early test reviews were actually terrible hence the re shoots in the last month
@@AntiKira20 same. I haven’t watch a marvel movie since end game, but I gladly hit up all the review videos and memes
I'm already so excited for this movie to come out, so the very next week we can have the "So, you have a new Marvel content for me? -Yes, sir, I do!".
Yup, and then advertisements are going to be labeling it "ThE bEsT mArVeL mOvIe SiNcE eNdGaMe, Or BeSt MaRvEl MoViE yEt" like they do every year a new MCU film comes out.
they turned bucky into that unlockable boss character that is no where near as powerful he was when you had to fight him.
apparently hes cool again in thunderbolts i hope that movie isnt terrible
@@kingt0295 Ahhh that's cos he spends SOME of the movie chasing after our misguided misfit band of set up anti-heroes. So get gets his antagonist power ups back temporarily to make it work.
Honestly a REAL OG thunderbolts movie would have been awesome, was a fantastic concept. I don't loathe the "Marvels answer to suicide squad" version either. But I always thought that the original premise was cool.
I might not hate the MCU thunderbolts as much as I suspect, but it's gonna be hard for me to root for the obvious swaps schlops and shit ones. No amount of john "He did nothing fucking wrong" walker. Will change that.
@@kingt0295 even the name sounds stupid.
The nerf for Bucky has been ludicrous.
The real failing of TFWS is the HUBRIS of forgetting that the audience were either comic fans, MCU fans, or normies who had already seen the characters and interchanges (like the CW move your seat thing). Instead we got Bucky nerfed and Falcon turned into a pompous @ss. I actually hurt for the actors. Meanwhile even Zemo's valet had more fun.
If you have to re-write and re-shoot your movie because of "cultural changes" over the course of a year or two, then your movie was too far toward the edge of the socially acceptable window to begin with. Most movies from a century ago still fall within the acceptable window, even in times as insane as our own.
Well, to be fair, if they would have a that full on Israeli outfit, I can see how that could anger certain group of people and boycot the movie result in loss of profits. Its like when GTA 3 was being developed and it was supposed to be New York but then got changed to a vague Liberty City after the terrorist attacks on September 11.
Because Disney isn't a movie company.
It's an activism machine pushing gay race politics.
Been that way for a while now.
Casablanca still holds up. You can watch it with zero historical context and know the good guys from the bad guys from the might be a good guy but we don't know yet.
"Brave New World" ... because naming it after a dystopian novel about people being bred and conditioned to obedience is just so much better.
Seriously 🤦🏾♀️
And it's actually at least the third title for the movie. People must have blocked the original title Feige announced ("Captain America: Serpent Society") from their memories.
@@dwboston1 wasnt that was the original title of the third one?
It's so on the nose that whoever suggested that title absolutely can't have read the book 😂
I think even the woke can't come with a script for the original title "captain america: THE handmaid tale"
"Some MF'ers are always trying to ice skate uphill." Blade called the state of the MCU out before it even existed. Truly a visionary. And that line always goes hard.
Before Blade Marvel was a writing disaster and on the brink of bankruptcy. The trash writing came full circle.
That's a "bill" and not uphill.
Wesley Snipes forever.
@@Dive-Deeper no, it’s “uphill”. You have some rewatching to do because you’re the only one who thinks he said “a bill”
If it wasn't for Ennis writing Punisher, I don't think I'd own anything from Marvel.
"There's only one Captain America ma'am, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that."
That's true. The real Captain America wears an olive drab uniform decorated with every medal the US could come up with... and one borrowed from the French.
I got that reference 😂
“You need to do better, Marvel.”
This comment deserves a comment.
"You gotta step up"
*You* gotta step up!
😂😂 nice.
Bedda
You either die a hero or live long enough to feature "the message" in a Disney sequel
Awesome
Thank you, Harvey Dent.
All the marvel team are all lefties and openly slandered trump fans…they themselves have destroyed probably more than half of their fan base
Captain America 4: Saving Agent Carter. Where Steve Rogers spends his time saving Peggy Carter's behind all while trying to keep his identity a secret because he is still on ice for another 50 years. You could even tie in the ending to Endgame as he does all of this before knocking on her front door and dancing with her in her living room.
@@superdave8248 more like "Saving Carter's Privates"
This will go straight to VCR.
soon we're gonna have 1 billion dollar budget flops
I think we already have
Come out still twenty million in debt 😂
Rings of Power is your answer.
But not in endless wars I hope 🙂
Well another one haha. It is Disney after all
Harrison Ford while filming Brave New World: “Let’s shoot this piece of shit.”
You can buy Ford for any kind of shit these days. I bet he would do Tijuana Donkey show for a few pennies.
@@railtraining2556 I bet Ford can play on ukulele while dancing in front of kids for 20$
At least he understands exactly what he is.
Given he's consistently accepted to feature in the character funerals of his most iconic roles for a big paycheck, that's not really surprising
“That shield belongs in a museum!”
As a Great Man once said, "Everything Woke turns to SHIT!!"...
You can polish a turd, Mythbusters proved that. However they did conclude that a polished turd is still a turd.
The real question is can you polish the wet fart that this movie truly is.
I was thinking the same thing lol. I love that show, and I love whenever it gets referenced. I still use many of the lessons they taught me. It doesn't get even half the credit it deserves.
Disney really seems to think that, with enough time and the censorship of everything actually enjoyable, people will somehow magically start to think the polished turds are chocolate.
It's adorable, honestly.
Dinosaur turds are coprolite after millions of years of polishing
oh yes that show was part of my childhood lol
i remember when falcon and the winter soldier was over, it was announced the same writer and director would be making the fourth movie and i immediately cringed and knew we were in for it and it wouldnt be good. sometimes i hate being right about Marvel
It's not just Marvel. I believe that people are also getting tired of all the superhero stuff that studio's keep pushing out even while they're out of original idea's and are trying hard to push some kind of message into their crap.
The last 5 movies i've seen i practically knew the plot and the ending within the first 5 minutes. Take wolfs as an example, i knew within a few minutes in the hotel scene it was a setup. If writers have no original idea's, and some 'community' tries to push an agenda through, and the studio's try to please everyone, you know it's going to be bad.
Hubris. And that always ends the same way.
Man, when the bluray comes out the special features are gonna be as long as the Dune saga.
Not to mention Bucky is a super soldier... like Captain America. Falcon is just a guy with a vibranium shield.
Correct-a-mundo!!!
Ahnd Falcon was never much in the limelight or given much character depth for the roll of someone representing an entire countries base ideals, Captain America. He isn't a shallow character or a bad one by any means, but he's nothing near Steve Rogers, or honestly Bucky either... I don't like going straight to these kind of claims, as it's a bit tired in the western culture landscape today, but making Falcon become Captain America really did feel like it was primarily about Falcon having dark skin, and it being a giant virtue signal, more so than it was for Falcon's character.
And batman's just a guy with gadgets, yet he gets glazed constantly. Make a better argument.
And he's already got his own distinctive set of powers in his wingsuit.
An indestructible frisbee doesn't do anything that he hasn't already got with his missiles, drones etc. so it's REALLY obvious that it's only intended to be symbolic.
@@boomguitarjared He deserved his own arc and movie just as much as Bucky did. The reality of the situation is they shoulda got that together and been each other's Steve Rodgers and became battle buddies in his absence filling that void for one another and keeping each other accountable and on the straight and narrow (the same as a proper armed forces battle buddy).
All we needed was an old school 90's style throwback black and white feelgood buddy cop movie that didn't overtly preach and just showed two bros being bros, not some divisive institutionalized/inherent racism regressive woke mind-virus nonsense everyone was sick and tired of hearing about years and years ago...
There's only one Captain America, and there's only ever gonna be one Captain America.
Bucky would have worked imo
Only One Captain america......Captain America Two
@@TEGRIDY_FARMS But he isn't black.
My grandma told me: "I don't care what they told you in school, Captain America was black!"
@@TEGRIDY_FARMSBecause Bucky has Tegridy.
I just don't understand why they couldn't just leave Falcon as just Falcon. The character could already stand on its own so why make him derivative?
As for Bucky, yeah pretty much.
Having him being Captain America not just destroys Falcon, it's also a downgrade for Captain America, because Falcon is much weaker than the original Captain America. He is no super soldier.
Bro be honest. No one was asking for a falcon film. He is literally just some guy with wings.
@@GeromeSmith-me9imHmm, do you speak for everyone?
@@GeromeSmith-me9im Mackie also has the charisma of a potato
@@emmanuelogunlana877 I speak for The majority. Falcon not a popular character.
They’ve apparently filmed the *whole movie* twice!! No wonder the budget is outrageous
3 times
three times, pushing on 4
Reportedly will be shooting a fifth time
God, they’re utterly useless
That scene in The Winter Soldier were brainwashed Bucky takes the shield from Cap in the middle of the fight still haunts me to this day... Bucky should have been the one
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He was absolute menace!
You can tell at that point, the russo's knew what they were doing. Knew the canonical lore of him being the next captain america eventually and... fantastically tied it into a fucking slick "villain flex" AND a nod to that upcoming storyline. When he straight up caught the shield and immediately stared steve down after he did it. Which up until then NOBODY had been able to do. Showing clearly, without any exposition. That it obviously wasn't just his arm that was enhanced as part of the winter soldier program.
THIS was right on the back of a great chase scene where steve is literally fucking parkouring along internal walls and fucking steamrolling through wall/doors, reinforcing yet again in the movie. Steve is fucking JUICED because of the serum and almost beyond human.
It's kinda fucking ruined by the tope of "Bad guy jumps off rooftop then disappears" which is funny but worn out. But the rest of that scene, was fucking awesome.
@@hellkaiser2009 that movie is by far my fav of the mcu right after the first iron man, such well done fight scenes all round and was just a really good movie overall
@@hellkaiser2009 'When he straight up caught the shield and immediately stared steve down after he did it. Which up until then NOBODY had been able to do. Showing clearly, without any exposition. That it obviously wasn't just his arm that was enhanced as part of the winter soldier program.' Got chills reading this. Shame on the MCU for doing an utter bait and switch. Bucky held the shield in First Avenger, Winter Soldier and Civil War and would have been perfect given the Brubaker comic run, so what did they do? Gave it to Sam, of course.
I remember at the end of End Game everyone thought Cap was going to give the shield to Bucky. And when he gave it to Falcon, nobody clapped, nobody cheered. Instead there were audible gasps and a lot of people going huh, weird, why. One guy even shouted this is bs. Nobody in the audience liked that decision, which was proof enough that Disney did not care what their audience liked, only what message they wanted to push on them
I think it's funny that no one is mentioning the fact that Bucky is ALSO a super soldier like Cap. Falcon is just a dude.
Good to know that my favorite part of the MCU still hasn't recovered from Falcon and Winter Soldier.
It could be worse, it could be The Snow White live action film.
Still shitting red over a kids film?
“Hold my beer.”
~Kevin Feige
@@saintniccage2818 👆🏳🌈
Don't worry, Brett Cooper's rival version will get the bad taste out of our mouths.
@@saintniccage2818still commenting on Drinkers videos being salty because you don’t have anything better going on in your life? Stay hating kiddo 😂
From a production standpoint, the biggest problem with Falcon as Cap is his wings. His ability to fly makes the sky his battlefield and that balloons the budget, whereas Cap was literally grounded so they could do a lot of practical fight scenes like the elevator fight or the staircase fight.
"You couldn't live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"
-Thanos
Ironically, that might still happen.
"You're not Steve Rogers"... "He's out of line, but he's right" - Roll Credits
*you’re
*you're
You’re
@@ihavethehighground732 I came here to say "Apostrophe fail", but you guys have it covered!
Hahaha...he edited it.
Winning!
My main issue is when during the whole Avengers saga up until Endgame did Falcon show any qualities that Steve thought he deserved the mantle of the next Captain America, its like he just wanted to retire and was like "eh, you take it" giving it to his 2nd sidekick because Bucky wouldn't have it.
So basically, it’s a two hour movie where falcon cosplay as Captain America
Also...the idea of a non'superhuman Captain America is weird. Some people forget it...but Steve Rogers wasn't just a strong man with a shield, he was a super-soldier. A man whose...everything...had been amplified beyond human limits, from his body to his mind. The falcon...has wings he didn't even build himself...and a shield...
It feels weird to make him a major super-hero...when he's not "super".
I made a similar point in my comment... however if I can insert a [1] Cought [2] Batman [3] cough here just to make the point that its not necessarily the lack of powers, its Captain American being powerless thats the problem
His superpower is that he was born with a token, his blackness enhanced by DEI
Exactly. The shield should've gone to Bucky. He was on a par with Steve.
@@DeltaVTango Batman also uses his head. He is five steps ahead of everyone. That’s how he beat Superman more than once.
The trailer makes it seem like Sam has super strength now though. I was puzzled by that when I saw it.
The moment i saw Falcon hold up Cap' shield, i knew it was gonna be... bad.
The moment i saw the falcon it was gonna be bad.
@@GeromeSmith-me9im The moment I saw, was bad.
Along with all the excellent points why Bucky would have made a more logical choice for successor, is the fact that he also was dosed with the super soldier serum. So he’s like Cap in strength and indestructibility. Sam simply isn’t; he’s a human who never had super powers. But just like Black Widow, they’re forgetting that and going to have him do unrealistic stuff anyway.
Not really the winter soldier did terrible things when he was brainwashed that’s why he ain’t the new cap
At least Black Widow was trained to use multiple marshal arts and assassin techniques. Sam was just a regular soldier. A grunt.
I attended the test screening, I don’t know what everyone’s whining about. When Captain America, Aladdin and Jasmine started singing “A Brave New World”, the audience went into a standing ovation for twenty minutes and everybody cried. Truly stunning and brave.
Shills
When they said: “It’s braving time!” and braved all over the place. Truly the height of cinema
Omfg lol
This is the best thread here.
@@DB-by9evsurely you mean „chills“
Bucky is strong, and not just a random man. He should be Captain America.
Good points all about Bucky, but there's just one thing keeping him from taking up the mantle of Captain America: Sebastian Stan isn't Disney's favorite color.
I think the same
Oh, wait a minute he’s not the same color as Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, Tom Holland, Chris Hemsworth Paul Rudd? Are you serious with this? Damn snowflakes man. One black character means Disney hates yt people 😂😂😂😂 clowns
Not woke
@@Gregor1337 same
LOL guess we know what yours is
Gives me .more respect for DC for pulling Batgirl from release.
Why what is wrong whith batgirl
Idk, everybody was saying batgirl was pretty well done.
That's probably why they pulled it. 😂
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@@TobiBurger-w2g there's nothing wrong with batgirl.
but everything was wrong with the film they were going to make that they wanted to slap the batgirl brand on.
at least they understood that the people who will need to buy tickets to see the movie weren't interested in a movie promoting a certain message instead of being about the things the comics were. so they decided to trow the whole movie into the bin, instead of making a(n even bigger) fool of themselves by having it hit the theaters and becoming another flop, while also destroying the batgirl brand for at least a generation.
@@Chaorchy unless you were on the production team, you literally can’t know if it was done well. No one ever saw the film, and all copies were deleted. And, no, a movie that deliberately race-swaps the lead is by definition not well done.
Mencken was wrong: It is possible to go broke by overestimating the stupidity of the American public, though it does take persistence.
Comrade Amerika: Fahrenheit 451.
(I’m calling it now, Red Hulk is gonna be an obnoxiously clumsy allegory for the Orange Man.)
I hope so… because then this movie will fail. Marvel thinks their best strategy is to insult the average American.
I think that's what the reshoots are all about, they were probably hedging their bets on a Harris victory and didn't realize how much of the country thought otherwise
Last time I was this early, Hulk was green and Cap was white
DIVERSITY!!!
😂😂😂😂
Last time I was this early I knocked up your mum and then you were born. Sorry you had to find out this way son but how’ve you been?
Red Lives Matter
Lol they even got a DEI hulk 😅
Anything Disney, Marvel or DEI seems like a great oppurtunity for money laundering operations.
There’s only one Captain America.
💯👍
Edit: How are people saying oh the comics failed so he’s bad. No he failed because of the message, that’s my point. No one would care if there wasn’t a message. Treat black characters as they do white, focusing on the character and DEVELOPMENT; unless in a historic setting and real. What’s so hard to not grasp?
Nah there isn’t, Steve gave him the shield in endgame people were hyped when it happened and it’s in the comics. Steve Rogers is the best sure but Sam could have been good and no one would have cared if there was no message and focused him on actually being Captain America.
Woke Disney says otherwise.🤢
And his name is Matt Salinger
Nah, I don't like what Disney did here either but there are several captains
I remember the reason I completely dropped out of the Marvel Subreddit was because, among other things, I pointed out that Bucky Barnes was the absolute perfect choice to become Cap's successor, for most of the reasons the Drinker laid out in the video but also because they had spent years building towards it (before the Falcon tv series). I mean it wasn't so much an easy lay-up as a complete slam dunk. But no! They had to go with Budget Basement Will Smith and his attempts at snark.
I'm likely not going to watch this movie but I will enjoy watching the critics absolutely blast this movie to the ground.
Oh and fun fact, there is a possibility this movie does make it to the record books though. At a minimum cost of 375 million USD, Cap 4 would be somewhere near the top 5 most expensive movies ever made. Presuming it earns a fairly respectable 400 million USD world wide, it would go down in history as one of, not the absolute, biggest flops in cinema... So congratulations, I guess?
Lastly, let's also remember that not only is Red Hulk the main antagonist, he's played by a jaded octogenarian Harrison Ford, who (probably) wants nothing more than to finally get a good night's sleep and not having to get up every 3 hours to pee.
Yeah this is going to be a complete shitshow.
I'm astonished that you weren't yeeted out for literally genociding George Flied.
I can just imagine the writers room, with some absolutely fed up exec who has been crunching the numbers and lost 10 years off his lifespan. Primarily due to stress of it all. Screaming at them:
"Once again, I am not gonna point fingers. But I am asking you all ONE more time. Please... for the love of all that is fucking holy, stop with the not so subtle political statements you absolute fucking morons!
YOU LOST"
Reddit has become utterly useless, sadly. 10 years ago it had so much potential, but now it's a wretched hive of toxic cultish leftism.
Man those stockholders at Disney sure like losing money
Stockholders who don't even care about comic books.
The less money you have in your mansion, the more room you have for ambition.
As a software developer... I just too often tell to companies "I told you so", when they decide to "continue development" instead of rewriting their software from ground up, so i'm not surprised at all.
where do you work, can u hook me up
@@saurontrollbrawlyou’re asking a random guy on TH-cam to stretch his neck out and recommend you, who is also random guy on TH-cam for a job at his company?? You’re delusional lol
As a black guy who's favorite marvel character is Captain America.
Steve Rodgers will always be Captain America.
So can Sam Steve is dead now; if he was written no one would care.
I'm a whitw dude, and my favorite Marvel movie is STILL Blade. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the MCU films I watched, but Blade still outshines them in my opinion. When I finally got around to watching Infinity War, I didn't know who half the characters were because of all the subtle and not-so-subtle changes, to say nothing of not having seen half the movies because I didn't know they existed.
As a white guy who's favorite marvel character is probably Rocket...
Audie Murphy will always be Captain America.
@@Hiraghmsure fellow white
The fact that Drinker made a Bash at the Beach '96 reference was just.... Too..... SWEEEEEEET!😂
Kevin Feige needs to get Matt Stone and Trey Parker on board to create "Captain Team America."
im surprised theyre not in trumps cabinet 😂
Fuck Yeah!!! 👏🏼🇺🇸🥇🎉
@@quickstep2408 Nah, they hate him too. Why do you think they turned Mr. Garrison into tRump during his 1st term?
*WAR MACHINE should have been the mc of this movie. He would have his own Hulkbuster armor too.*
was wondering... did Falcon at some point have super soldier serum... or are we pretending that a normal human can stop a hulk punch with a shield...i know it absorbs quite a bit of energy but that seems off...
wasn't the iron patriot suit in one of the movies? just have him be iron patriot.
@@PvtFlowers Iron Man 3 and Endgame.
Is that 'Armor Wars' crap even still happening?
@Iscream4j0y No, they canceled it. Shame too, I was looking forward to it
5:00 and Bucky is a super soldier just like cap was. Falcon is just a man so him throwing that shield as good as cap is just bs.
Bucky, has super serum intense combat training and metal arm.
Sam, human and “you’ve got to do better!”
Yes let’s make Sam fight a hulk!
In the trailer he’s flying around and busting shyte up like he’s Superman! 😂
Don't forget his "Bird costume"
He will probably take the serum
@@oXRaptorzXocope, He will be empowered by DEI
Sam already has two shields which are his wings, they're also blades, he has guns, missiles, and a drone that has those too. WTF did he need a shield for? Bucky should be Cap. He's America personified. Damaged, used, flawed, led astray and seeking redemption, he's also a super soldier and has a bionic arm, falcon was a great character as he was he didn't need anything else.
He was absolute menace in winter soldier
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Bucky is a terrorist in the eyes of the people and could never be cap .
@oXRaptorzXo The difference is that he was forced to be a terrorist, while Sam loves and protects terrorists.
@@oXRaptorzXo Yeah, i wonder if a TV show can be made arround that idea and Falcon's resentment for not being choose as Cap's replacement... Maybe Falcon and the winter soldier as title for the show... Mmmm 🤔
Exactly! It's like giving Rambo a pen knife dumb as s#£t
There have been many Captain Americas, but only one Steve Rogers.
This will go down in history as one of the TH-cam comments of all time.
I remember when marvel movies coming out was a spectacle. Something you looked forward to. Now, I don't even know that a new one released
Literally, I remember when I used to get stressed out by how far away an awesome Marvel movie was from its release, nowadays it doesn’t even phase me anymore.
The Falcon as Captain America was never popular in the comic books. They didn’t sell. This will be a disaster, I will not see it.
Falcon as captain America sold really well and it's good
@@Prominent_intellectlol stop
Wrong @@Prominent_intellect
@@Prominent_intellect That's focking cap
@@Elmo914 say that again....
I seriously laughed out loud to that Bricktop clip you eloquently spliced in there! Nice one Drinker! 👏🍻
6:03 I was already reaching for the mouse to skip it, thank you :)
Ditto
Marvel : should we hear the fans ? Let’s have Red hulk fight the real hulk finally ? Nah let’s go political and make Sam a super human just because
Theee films are out of date the second they hit production. They greenlit all of these shows five years ago banking that certain elections would be won and that certain messaging would have been secured.
DEI seems to encompass the practice of throwing all proven methods out of the window, and letting people with zero to little skill make all of the decisions. It is going to be the countries most expensive lesson.
Right? Did I miss him getting the soldier or something?
@@eatyourveggies_ Unless it happens during the film in some way? Which wouldn't surprise me AT ALL btw. Nope... So it's basically black widow all over again.
/cue the scene where she falls off a fucking building, absolutely demolishing herself physically on the way down, hitting multiple objects like vents and stuff. Then lands on her fucking feet, and then proceeds to act like it's just a bit sore.
I know, I know... similar happened in deadpool and wolverine with johnny storm, but you kinda give it a pass because it's a fucking comedy and you expect a bit of OTT slapstick. It was an obvious gag from start to finish and everyone was in on the joke.
THIS however, is trying to be grounded a gritty, so Captain america: Winter soldier essentially in tone, but then they have him basically doing superhuman shit. I saw a few clever ideas in the trailer that LOOKED cool as fuck. But then you remember yet again, he's NOT superhuman. So it's not possible for him to do that and no suspension of disbelief will change that.
...just because he is black.
The best point you make is how this movie has been a barometer for the culture changes in the industry in real time.
Super bad timing for them but nice for us.
I just want my Falcon back.
He was in my top 5 MCU favorites.
Utility and personality.
Production Hell: Captain America, Brave New World
That would be a good video for drinker to do in the future!
Marvel at this point needs to learn to take the L.
Steve Rogers is Captain America
Sam Wilson is Falcon
Peter Parker is Spider-Man
Norrin Rad is the Silver Surfer
Miles Morales is Miles Morales
Mackie must be making bank with all those reshoots.
Reshoots are generally part of the original contract. So he's probably making nothing.
He's gonna lose his career with this one.
@@sephalon1Correct. This is killing him financially. More work for the same money and no chance for money on the back end.
*Nope.. Contract is a contract. He already got paid.. Now he has to obey until release..*
Almost pity him.
On your list of reasons why Bucky Barnes makes more sense to become Captain America you can also add: 'He's a fkng super soldier.'
That’s what it all boils down to really? Falcon is simply a human at peak performance, yet he’s clearly doing super human feats in this trailer that are simply impossible. They nerfed the hell out of him, which makes absolutely zero sense and it’s a direct insult to the fandom.
actually, that's one reason why he shouldn't be Captain America.
When you mentioned the insufferable monologue from Falcon and Winter Soldier, I knew you were going to play that stupid clip. THANK YOU for cutting it off early!
The sheer hubris of thinking that you could somehow just keep on producing billion dollar box office hits.
Captain America IV - You Can't Polish a Turd
That’s racist
Actually, Mythbusters proved otherwise.
@@iamme4494 Please explain how a polished turd is racist.
@d1grizz i think he's joking
😂😂😂
Why would the MCU introduce the Red Hulk at this time? Such is a foolish plan made by foolish writers!
Not only did the MCU utterly fail:
1. to demonstrate the two immutable Hulk laws (i.e., "The madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets!" and "Hulk is the strongest one there is!"),
2. to represent the Hulk's incredible mythos, and
3. to present a sufficient Hulk backstory,
BUT ALSO,
the MCU utterly failed:
1. to demonstrate Bruce Banner's mental health issues (i.e., child abuse and multiple personality disorder), and
2. to present the multitude of Hulk centered villains, such as The Leader, Gold-Bug, Modok, Brother Billy, etc., and non villians such as Doc Sampson, Rick Jones, etc.
Got sense?
Plus, you know, Bucky Barnes is a *super soldier*; an important prerequisite to being able to use that shield as a weapon...
Anyone else notice the clip of falcon breaking the sound barrier wearing nothing but goggles? Pretty sure the atmospheric drag at that speed will remove the skin from your face… 3:59
Don't worry. He doesn't even have any super powers. He'll be fine.
Nah, it'll be fine
He's got super Gillette skin, duh 😂
If we're going down that route, let's talk about the physics of Caps shield.
Yeah man. Totally unrealistic.
Harrison Ford as the American President? GET OFF MY PLANE!
*The moment Tony Stark snapped his fingers, it was all over*
This is kinda sad, because Captain America: Winter Soldier is actually the movie that got me into the MCU. Aside from Iron Man, I thought most of it was shlock, but that first Russo Bros movie totally changed my mind on the quality that these movies could have. Who could have thought that 10 years later, the franchise would be nothing but a shell of it's former self, waaay past its high point both in terms of quality and audience interest.
I think everyone recognises just how damned fucking slick and well written winter soldier was. By no means the greatest thing to ever be made, but for a fucking cape flick?
By fuck it was a damn good spy thriller first with some cool superhero shit as flavour. Same with Logan really.
Such a shame they didn’t continue with the grittier, darker vibe of the early mcu instead of what it became.
Dei is killing it.
they also did decent with the mini stories in the heros of new york daredevil and punisher best of the 5
@@GH-ub7qz very true, the netflix shows were great. It’s amazing what marvel can accomplish when they’re not trying to saturate your ear canal with cheesy jokes and one liners.
Disney/Marvel chose Sam Wilson to be Captain America because he’s black. The woke kool-aid was at full strength back when then. 5:40
The new Captain should have been Bucky. Falcon against Red Hulk No way he survived that!
Man, can't wait to watch Captain America: Brave New Reshoot...
That sounds like the "adults-only" parody currently in production.
@Zetirix and it would probably be filmed with higher quality and better written story than what current "writers" in Hollywood can come up with 🤣
Haha nice one😂
It would’ve worked if they didn’t butcher Sam as a character in the TV show
That actor now playing Capt will always be Papa Doc to me!
Isnt his real name Clarence? 🤔
This guy's Captain America? His real name's Clarence!
@@claudiarey699 and his parents had a real good marriage
The comic run with Bucky as Captain America was pretty good imo.
Captain Bucky would have slapped ... ❤
I’ve “gone away now” from the MCU franchise.
I feel sorry for Anthony Mackie at this point. He seems to be an okay guy, and that's a big thing nowadays.
Yeah but a very wooden actor in an iconic role.
Really...I heard he was a bit of an arsehole
Never forget he requested a Black Widow romance plot "several times". Bro kept shooting his shot xD
Nah lost respect for him when he started bashing Harry Potter saying it wasn't 'diverse enough'. Said if he made it now he'd want pretty much want every character a POC. Apparently a film set in the UK having a predominantly white cast is unacceptable to him.
I don’t feel sympathy for commie, degenerate, hedonistic, dong showing Chris evans or the rest of the adult pretenders.. go away now
There's only one Captain, and he sure doesn't look like that
I have absolutely no desire to see any marvel films next year
I’ve been saying for years that Bucky should’ve gotten the shield
All the actors "moving" to Canada probably isn't helping...
They have no idea how bad Vancouver is right now.
"Can't wait to see white Blade."
😂😂😂
We
I heard he/she blade is next?
exactly! Either it's all ok or none of it is ok. Just you know, write good new black characters like Blade etc. Anyway I do like the new green witch in wicked with the flat nose and big nostrils.
@@matthewbooth9265 so black bond confirmed?
FIFTH RESHOOT!? Man, this might go down in history as the most recent episode of production hell.
Brave New World? Like the Adolphus Huxley novel where hedonists are pushed to be excited for new product so they can consume new product and completely ignore just how crappy their lives were?
The irony 😂
They should just title it NOT Captain America: This Guy is Much Cheaper. A little honest in advertising would go a long way.
I guess Disney would have saved hundreds of millions just paying Chris Evans after all.
But... but.. he's white!
Can’t wait for the part where the general tells Sam saying: “You are not brave in this new world Sam.”
lmao 😂
"Oh yeah Mr Tr.... Ross... Well I won't stand by while you enact your new world order. You big red monster!"
“Tired of superhero movies” you can say that again.
Marvel for the last few years has been the personification of the Principal Skinner meme: "Am I out of touch? No, it's the fans who are wrong,"
And they're going to keep thinking that way 😂
Happy Thanksgiving everyone 💯
Amen!
Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!
And it looks like Marvel brought the turkey.
❤❤
Soon it'll be musical
I had a proper laugh at the WCW/NWO/Hulk Hogan reference, thanks Drinker! 😆
It worked for me brother😂
"Dear Marvel, You got to do better"
There is only one Capt America. This insane DEI clamoring for black representation by deleting white characters only to inject a black one in the exact same space is exhausting! No backstory, no telling of what it took to make the hard climb to become the hero he is today. Nope, just a schlub off the Harlem streets stumbled across or stole some armor or secret sauce that some white guy had been successfully using for 80 years and then announced "I've been THAT hero all along!" JHC, I just saw part of a newly released animation with Wonder Woman walking down a corridor talking to da hood Steve Trevor. Wtf is this crap going to stop?? In case it has been missed to those in a creative industry, there is ABSOLUTE FREEDOM and availability to make new, interesting, and ORIGINAL POC characters and storylines. Not one thing stopping you!
I didn't even know this was coming out..
What was cool about the early MCU was how everything was connected and played into each other. Now it’s overbloated and not even internally consistent anymore...
Why don't they just embrace the falcon???
Who would've thought that matching a dude with a frisbee against Hulk is not the most compelling idea ever
If it was Chris Evans you would like it.
@@joeygang4136 Steve Rogers was a superhuman, Falcon is just a dude with wings...
@@joeygang4136Are you slow or something? OG cap is a super soldier while falcon is a retired vet with ptsd. You can’t see the difference?