Phaetus Dragonfly BMS Full Metal Hotend for Ender 3 rated for 500c

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  • Today we are having a look at the dragonfly BMS full metal hotend from Phaetus,Will this be the last all round hotend you will ever need with it being good for upto 500c??
    Phaetus Dragonfly BMS Full Metal Hotend
    www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
    PTFE Tubing-
    www.aliexpress.com/item/32961...
    Ender 3-
    www.banggood.com/custlink/DDv...
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  • @obewillaert
    @obewillaert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you install the grub screws to fasten the thermister and heater cartridge, the tiny screws dont bite or something I can't get them in or do you just leave it loosly in there
    EDIT: Nevermind the I thought the tiny black screws in the bag are the grub screws but they are just spares to hold the heatsink

  • @w1spArcadeEU
    @w1spArcadeEU ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review RevXS.
    Is filament supposed to go through end to end when a nozzle isn't attached?
    I'm afraid I damaged my heatblock as everything is mounted, heated, nozzle tightened, but filament won't go through ...

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Going to be best to heat unit up,remove nozzle and also hotend to get a better look, possibly has been a leak between tube and nozzle itself

  • @GizmoTheGreen
    @GizmoTheGreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so few videos done on these hotends... they're a great upgrade and not $100+ like most other solutions! with bi-metal heatbreak to boot.

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      New unit being released very soon so stay tuned for review on it

    • @justinmcdonald29
      @justinmcdonald29 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a pos and clogs constantly. I hate it, 1 week in amd I've unclogged it more than I can count. Its garbage

    • @Vanilla_Wh0op
      @Vanilla_Wh0op ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinmcdonald29 skill issue

  • @Fluli
    @Fluli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nozzle is plated copper as far as I know

  • @romanbabucha139
    @romanbabucha139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This hotend is best at combination with direct extruder, because with bowden setup especially PLA filament sometimes much leak, and extudion is not consistent. The first nozzle at package is copper nozzle with nickle platted surface. Brass nozzle is good too, at practise is same as nozzle at package, at printed parts not visual difference. With direct extruder, printing this hotend very similar as E3D V6.

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Got this dialed in now with no stringing at all, direct drive seems to be what people think is an easy fix for issues insted of dialing settings in,run this machine daily since this video and no dramas at all

    • @romanbabucha139
      @romanbabucha139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RevXSCustomsNo dramas me too, but when i installed direct extruder this phaetus print very well and little bit better. With BMG has great performance.

    • @dekurvajo
      @dekurvajo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@romanbabucha139 yeah but why would you bother with a DIY combination and build, when you can buy pretty decent DD sets. Like Biqu or the Sprite

  • @Yakena1
    @Yakena1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you give more detail about your profile used. Very helpful to me.

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really nothing special,
      50mm/s for infill
      Walls are 40mm/s
      2mm Retraction
      Key is to get your bed level and first layer correct and get your E-Steps calibrated correctly

  • @noway8233
    @noway8233 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could never remuve the ptfe tube by hamd , so i cut it😊

  • @rhauff1
    @rhauff1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It looks like you used the stock cooling fans. How is that working?
    How close is nozzle height to stock?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have since changed out to new cooling setup using blower fan which is adjustable height
      www.thingiverse.com/thing:4528533

  • @DenRoedeMogM
    @DenRoedeMogM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice little video.. :-) You write that it might be good for 500°C (Alt+248 = °) but i guess that would require a new heater..?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Realistically average user wont ever get anywhere near that ,300d for some nylons which a stock heater and thermistor shouldn't have any issues at all,is a cheap and easy way to get a nice hotend thats good for abit of everything

    • @BH4x0r
      @BH4x0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      all you'd require is something like a PT100 and an amplifier for it, because normal thermistors can't handle over 300°C, the heater would probs be fine at those temps

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We're you able to increase your print speed with this. I've had it for a few weeks but I'm waiting for the inevitable ptfe clog in my cr10 v3 hotend

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never tend to run speeds anything crazy like some, running around 60-70mm/s with pla but sure could possibly push more,the newer high flow units possibly what your after have also reviewed that

    • @BH4x0r
      @BH4x0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just went away with the original extruder etc, and put a hemera on my CR20 Pro, takes some more work as it aint a direct swap but well worth it

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were you able to get the silicone sock to fit on the stock setup without leaving anything crooked? It doesn't look like there's enough room for it between the heat block and bottom of the x-axis' hotend mount plate 4:33

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Def had to loosen off to get it to fit up,havnt had to take it off since mind you,a few spacers would help bring it out more to limit that issue

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevXSCustoms Thanks for the quick reply! I'm looking to pick one up. Wondering if a linear rail on the X with a different mounting plate could solve that cramped space, as it looks to be caused by bolt of the lower wheel on the original plate.

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah its the Nut on the end thats issue,Possiably could rotate that whole screw setup so got head on that side insted and would give more room

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevXSCustoms I did this a month ago and I think I tried that, but later couldn't get the eccentric nut to hold everything rigidly. However I just installed a Printermods DD kit and the plate's hole spacing seems a bit off so now the sweet spot is very narrow. I'll get some new POM wheels on it when it comes in and try my luck. I'm new at this so there's that disclaimer, too haha

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you checked out video done on there new hotend?

  • @Michaelhood0
    @Michaelhood0 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you doing about jams and heat creep?
    Mine printy really nice but on pla intermittently It will jam. The retraction on Mines set to 3mm and has no stringing do you upgrade the fan?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Never had any issues with heat creep or jams,was at 2.5mm retraction since gone direct drive with this hotend now,upgraded part cooking fan yes run blower style fans on all my printer's

    • @Michaelhood0
      @Michaelhood0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevXSCustoms im thinking its either getting heat creep or its this specific filament. I'm useing stock fans with the bullseye shroud because the stock shroud arrived broken. But since the part fan is particularly blocked it raises suspicion
      I just had a jam now and somone heard it and told me I was able to stop and fix and resume program. Might only loose 2 parts

  • @MuizzAsif
    @MuizzAsif 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make the ender printer go above 300d when using a 500d hotend. I mean is the printer capable of printing about 300d when using a 500d hotend?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Firmware changes and board change yep,how ever some weird reason on bigtreeboard will go let me go above 485d

  • @blackline67
    @blackline67 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask what's your retraction setting for Bowden setup on ender 3 pro? Tnx

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Was running 3.5mm, since gone to a direct drive setup still using same hotend

  • @Bennyco86
    @Bennyco86 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the retraction setup you used for bowden tube?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Since gone direct drive still using same hotend, belive finshed up with around 3.5mm at 40mm/s

  • @blackline67
    @blackline67 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how do you secure a stock thermistor in that tube?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Somewhat sits into the sleeve, definitely need to cut the stock cable management so can get more length on cable, once pushed all the way in cable tie wire back again to prevent it being pulled back out and give grub screw holding sleeve in a good tighten

  • @Doile911
    @Doile911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the termistor always falls out of the little tube for me. how did you fix that?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Made sure pushed in it as far as could go,then cable tied up the thermistor to ensure wouldnt be able to come back out

    • @Doile911
      @Doile911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevXSCustoms where did you cable tied it to?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Accaully used kapton tape, just around the heater wires as normal,cut stock stuff off and gave myself little more length to push thermistor all way in and retaped it

    • @CNDFireFighterPilot
      @CNDFireFighterPilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used wire cutters and crimped the very end of the tube. It worked amazing!

  • @freelancemotorsportsllc2826
    @freelancemotorsportsllc2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did you not tell us what temperatures you ran this at? Being a hot end that's something everyone would like to know. Do you remember the temps?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Temps always going to vary brand to brand
      Basically everything I print I run in middle of there recommended min and max temp and go from there, Any major stringing will drop 5d and try again, Poor layer adhesive raise it 5d

    • @freelancemotorsportsllc2826
      @freelancemotorsportsllc2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RevXSCustoms Do you mind letting me know what the possible temp ranges were then? Really curious on the cooling capabilities of this to print some nasty high temp filaments.

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@freelancemotorsportsllc2826
      CCDIY PLA 205d
      Sainsmart TPU 200d
      Extrudr Carbon 240d
      CCDIY ABS 245d
      Mamorubot Silk 210d

  • @TheJgantic
    @TheJgantic ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound like a kiwi? Any tips for a fellow kiwi looking to change to this hotend on a ender 3 v2?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed Iam,
      Two big things with this hotend if going from stock is make sure you unbundle wires and give the Thermistor some more slack to allow you to really push it deep into the little tube, Was one issue had was didn't push in far enough and fell out so hotend was running much hotter as it was not even inside tube no longer
      Second one being making sure you do allow the hotend a good 10-15mins to head up before tightening up the nozzle itself being a full metal hotend,Rule of thumb is while cold wind nozzle in untill bottoms out, back it off around half a turn,Then preheat for the 10-15 mins then tighten it up

  • @robertfrayer6711
    @robertfrayer6711 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the width the same as the Mark 8 (MK8)?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  ปีที่แล้ว

      Heat block itself is a wee bit larger as was a little more of a tight fit with cooling duct setup which was designed for stock hotend,in terms of overall length they are much same

  • @Mr.Titanium1911
    @Mr.Titanium1911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Will the standard Ender nozzles fit this hotend?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No wont fit,Uses its own nozzles designed for this hotend

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevXSCustoms it uses regular V6 nozzles, same as e3D v6, dragon, mosquito and plenty of others.

  • @karol16384
    @karol16384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the tool at 5:18?

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.banggood.com/custlink/DvvESucALe
      Just one of these,Get from basicly anywhere designed for RC Car bodys for making holes for body posts

  • @noway8233
    @noway8233 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool , but a better extruder its gone impruve the speed , put a bmg or a titan or better go Direct Drive , in that way yuo can extrude very fast

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did add OMG DM1 to make direct drive at later point,this video was aimed a direct swap to upgrade to full metal

  • @DIAiKIMMY
    @DIAiKIMMY 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    流量是多少

    • @RevXSCustoms
      @RevXSCustoms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All these tests were done on a default ender 3 setting,so slow was at 100% and esteps as they were standard