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actually, he owned the airplane for less than a year. It was registered to him in Jan of 24, meaning he bot it a few months before that.

Based on the altitude alone when the controller called 9000 yes he was. Otherwise it would have been 9500.

Convection present

What??? Good lord…. 🤦‍♂️

Gibberish. It hasn't killed you or me.

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Oh, they got to manuring speed alright

The doctor killed himself and his children. So far there's no evidence of any mechanical or design failure that caused this crash.

@@smark1180 what did he do wrong ?

@@lw216316 He apparently lost control and allowed the plane to exceed its designed speed/g limits. We won't know for sure until after the NTSB investigation.

I have owned a V-tail Bonanza for 13 years. Wonderful airplane. The truth is that Doctors are Bonanza killers. In this case he killed himself, his plane, and two other people.

Unknown. But sometimes people are just overconfident amateur pilots that overestimate the powers of an instrument rating and upgrade planes without sufficient preparation and the requisite experience. Slow down, think about it. It can happen to you. Nobody’s invincible.

She had the runaway rudder but I don't recall breakup.

@@wjatube The similarities i am seeing were the high decent rates from both of these events, as i am not sure about any other similarities between the two.

@@romantic340 probably the biggest similarity are the people that can afford this plane generally get in way over their head. In the case of TNGIRL she was inadequately trained.

@@wjatube Inadequately trained in her case, i agree 100%.

@@wjatube What's a "runaway rudder?"

WOW! You're the first to realize that. Thanks for the update, Captain Obvious.

And that's why you have as many hours as you do.

You have 20,000 + hours and still flying for a reason....it is because you are smart know and respect your limitations!!! Some pilots think they are invincible!

@@D....A...e-fg8qh and that’s why he doesn’t rent and/or fly GA planes, most likely. But those people are CONFIDENT that they ARE proficient. That’s the killer.

The problem is they don’t think in terms of “ideal” or not, they think in macho overconfident terms of whether they can handle anything thrown at them or not. If they chalk up checklists, W&B, flight planning, flight plans, DA and performance calculations, weather briefings, and flight following to mere administrivia and BS only needed for the FAA test, then they fail the real life test and pay the ultimate price. They only suspect, realize, or accept their shortcomings and willing ignorance in the final 30 seconds. I can’t think of a single incident report where a female private pilot chose or insisted on flying into inclement weather. I routinely hear women passengers in planes asking the right risk management questions, and their men ignoring them as usual. This is a toxic masculinity, macho and testosterone poisoning problem, pure and simple, and resistance to authority by someone who claims dominion over all he purveys. Here, hold my beer, I’ll show you it’s not impossible. And it’s impossible to combat that, I would say.

@@RetreadPhoto He learned how to fly in GA planes.

Probably did exceed VNE, but it's nearly impossible to tell his airspeed based on ADS-B data. ADS-B tell you the ground speed. In my airplane, I routinely have groundspeeds exceeding VNE when I have a good tailwind.

@@cgtbrad Very good point of course but as you say, likely VNE was busted.

Maneuvering speed is 113 I think. Max Structural Cruise (smooth air only, with caution only) is 139. So 216 kts would be far above those. Maybe already in trouble by then for other reasons - pilot seemed behind. Wondering if he was on auto-pilot or some kind of automation, came off it for some reason and then just got behind / IMC or something.

Pressurized 35 Bonanza? That's a new one.

Clueless

@@clay1883 Never said it was.

@@smark1180 Fool

@@smark1180 foolish

The v tail folds up first? Wonder how strong those v tails are compared to traditional.

I live about 40 miles south of where they crashed and we did have some rain that night.

@@jonasbaine3538 I'm not sure if it's the V-tail specifically, but the other Bonanza's don't have this issue, so could be.

Specify - "tight envelope" and "squirrely."

@@smark1180 Thought I replied but don't see it so I'll try again. Simple explanation is that the flight envelope is the combination of speed and g-forces that an aircraft structure is designed to sustain. G-forces increase as the wing is forced to carry more of the aircraft’s weight. This increases in exponential form with the angle of bank, and in climbs/dives. If G’s applied to the wings are too great, they’ll break off under the weight. If speed is too high, even in a 1-G condition, you’ll also see structural failures - typically at the airfoil (lifting) surfaces - the wings and horizontal/vertical stabilizer. As Gs increase, allowable airspeed decreases. Being “outside the envelope” can happen quickly in the V35 because its margins are so small (“tight envelope”). I would never fly the one my club had in anything except visual conditions because it didn’t have a reliable auto-pilot. Get disoriented in the clouds and you could quickly put the airplane in an attitude/condition outside the envelope and it would buckle on you. No speculation about this accident, but given the history of this airframe, that’s a high probability scenario.

No they didn’t. Some people are invincible and know everything, no need to read or study or learn. Not to say that’s the case here, just not enough data.

You’re right, too many think it’s a red cape for their blue suit and big S on their tight shirt. It gives you the smarts to know HOW to fly, takeoff, and land without ground reference until personal or actual minimums (over time), WHAT to AVOID and WHEN to say NO or DIVERT. And WHY. Instead, some of them think it means they can now fly in ice, as long as they have cabin heat and pitot heat. Not necessarily this case, though, not enough details yet.

I am not judging this particular incident but based on the plastic surgeons (surgeons) in general most all have super inflated macho superior type egos...just saying!

Is the accident rate up or just the number of TH-cam hits?

I'm pretty sure this pilot had an instrument rating. It looks like he was on an IFR flight plan. Something weird happened that caused them to deviate from course then climb rapidly from 7000ft to 9500 ft and then lose control of the aircraft and overspeed the airframe. Could be anything from icing, trim runaway, autopilot failure, entered a storm cell, etc. This ATC audio unfortunately doesn't really clear up anything.

Convective weather. Registered the plane in January.

i would never get on one of those v tails

According to a FAA report I read, the explanation is that this class of aircraft is very appealing (speed, range, payload) to a certain level of income earners like surgeons who never want to delay a journey and suffer from "get there-itis". They may have IFR ratings but often don't and when confronted by IMC they press on instead of turning back as they don't like to admit failure. Then they get into situations they can't handle.

Not someone or something I’d waste my time watching or listening to. So many other great channels out there to choose from. And there’s no way in hell he can know the cause by Sunday.

Just when Dan was lookin like he might get two zero weeks in a row...

Who listens to Dan Gryder anymore? Bag o wind from where I’m sitting.

@@1shinytop686 if more people did listen to him, less people would die in airplane accidents.

@@Kenjh71if nobody listens to him, all of them will be smarter, or at best, no dumber than when they began. He is not a character worth taking seriously. He entertains some people who like that type of shtick and schlock. He is a local yokel government-criticizing TH-camr. Period. His track record tells it alls. He should stick to flying DC-3s. And avoid corn fields.

I'd rule out hypoxia at 9.5k..

@@marcomm7828 that’s what I said.I should have said ALL highly doubtful.

@@iamthevanavator281 yeah, sry

The V tailed doctor killer....given that name for a reason.

​@@marcomm7828 Carbon Monoxide can cause hypoxia at any altitude

Lmao not suspicious at all, the guy was a surgeon flying the doctor killer, it's an extremely slippery plane with a rather low top speed (I believe VNE is 180kts~ depending on year and model), almost certainly was what these things are known for, flying into IMC and getting disoriented, and over speeding / over stressing airframe trying to recover resulting in breakup.

Not much more info so far other than what was provided. 1/2 mile debris field from the 7000ft breakup that appeared to be an explosion. 3 dead. Confirmed by ABC news approx 2 hrs ago.

Why does EVERYTHING turn into a conspiracy theory.

@@ninerlivesbecause we’ve been trained like sea world seals to believe that anything bad has to be due to something nefarious. Not just a plain old mistake or accident.

@@mebeingU2 it has more to do with nobodies who want to feel like they are smarter than everyone else or more informed than the average person (everyone)