Mooney Gear-Up Landing at Venice, FL on March 27, 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มี.ค. 2024
- Date: 27-MAR-24
Time: 15:00:00Z
Regis#: N3425X
Aircraft Make: MOONEY
Aircraft Model: M20E
Event Type: INCIDENT
Highest Injury: NONE
Aircraft Missing: No
Damage: UNKNOWN
City: VENICE
State: FLORIDA
Country: UNITED STATES
Description: AIRCRAFT RIGHT MAIN GEAR COLLAPSED ON LANDING, VENICE, FL.
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That radio traffic reminded me of Red Dwarf
HOLLY: They're all dead. Everybody's dead, Dave.
Holly: “Gordon Bennett! Yes, Everyone. Everybody’s dead, Dave”
Lister: “Rimmer? “
Holly: “He’s dead, Dave. Everybody is dead. Everybody is dead, Dave.”
Lister: “Wait. Are you trying to tell me everybody’s dead”
Holly: “Should’ve never let him out in the first place....”
She just needs to say "all runways are closed".
These people...just say, "The airport is closed at this time". The guys in the air don't need all that other information.
who cares
Too much talking from everyone. Runway is closed. No need for details cluttering up the radio that are unnecessary.
Sounds like a pretty normal unicom to me
Rumor has it that Venice may or may not have an open runway.
What part of CLOSED do you bonzo's not understand?
It is uncontrolled airspace and airport there is no ciosed or open. Unicom is advisory only no authority regarding traffic in the air or ground.
The part that they couldn’t hear. Because it’s a non-towered field so there’s no ATIS and no way to get updates until you tune in.
FL pilots can be something else. Once at Venice a few seconds after I announced I was starting a short approach runway 5, some lady decided to pull out and announce she was going to “line up and wait”… And then as I announce I’m going around…. She starts her take off roll to begin climbing out from beneath me….
Miraculously she survived long enough for me to hear her the next day up at KZPH.
“Zephyrhills traffic sky divers jumping 2 minutes do not overfly the field”
Next call - dingus girl - “5 to the east will be over flying the field for a tear drop runway 5”
It took about 6 calls between the jump plane and I before she caught on that she needed to enter the pattern another way. Otherwise I 100% believe she would have been chancing it with the meat rain.
Is 23 open? 🤦🏽♀️
Lots of non-standard phraseology contributed to the confusion. Instead of repeatedly saying "we have gear up on 23" which is ambiguous ("gear" could mean several things including "arresting gear" to a Navy pilot), how about just saying what it is "we have a disabled aircraft on runway 23". The cause of the aircraft being disabled is irrelevant. And instead of listing the numbers of the closed runways when it is all of the runways, how about just "all runways are closed" or better yet "the airport is closed".
It is a local airport that I frequent and the local “old timers” that fly there have the absolute worst radio I’ve heard. TBH this video is probably one of the better days I’ve heard
Radio chaos...how much fun was that?
I swear I thought that pilot was about to ask “If runway 23 is closed what about runway 5?”
"Good thing we have enough fuel." Do you typically take off with zero backup plans? Somebody could be dead and this guy's annoyed at being inconvenienced.
He touched....didn't go.
FBO Unicom person doing a good job. Uncontrolled field that's closed can get janky.
I mean they should have started with "The Airport is CLOSED" instead of stating which runways are closed. This isn't LAX, and the local traffic kept getting confused.
@@SeaHusker54 I agree. But many uncontrolled fields wouldn't have anybody in the FBO helping direct on the radio. You'd be relying on other pilots and some idiot might actually land on 23. So kudos to the FBO person for jumping on. I've been to fields were the only person at the FBO is a high school kid who knows nothing.
Somebody tell me why the green and red gear lights are not on top of the instrument panel in the pilots view !
Pilots don’t listen very well. 😢
Check your NOTAMS everyone!!
These pilots don't get it. The airport is Closed! Obviously, they just didn't want to hear that. The one pilot said, good thing we have enough fuel. Well that's your problem pilot. I've had to divert countless times for lots of strange reasons at many airports.
I didn’t take it as snarky - just an ‘out-loud’ confirmation that he had enough to divert… a way of saying “I’m glad I planned well enough to divert!!!”
Not everything is said out of anger - relax
@@arctain1 Did he divert, though? I got the impression he was happy about having enough fuel to hang around until the airport reopened.
@@alexmiller7721 - nothing saying he had to divert. He just commented that he had enough TO divert... or hang around for an hour or so. Either way, he was good. No angst or anger... just thanking himself for flight planning well :)
Holding patterns are wondrous things...
im thinking that was more like a grab than a touch
Flippin Florida
Imagine doing this on a checkride
Eh I think the pilot of N14814 probably needs a talking to from the FAA. Nothing crazy but he repeatedly got information and then just kept pushing everyone. After watching it again he might need something official. This isn’t cool to do while someone’s just been in a plane crash. It puts people in danger.
I didn;t think Venice had a tower
Whoopsy
Well looks like anyone can be a pilot no brains required or just conformation bias. I want it to be open even if you say its not.
JUST SAY "THE F*CKING AIR PORT IS CLOSED.........COME BACK LATER.
Listening skills are so over-rated !
Wheels?!? Wheels?!? We don’t need no steenking wheels! That’s a bummer when they fold up on you! Oh, by the way, runway 23 is temporarily closed.
"we got people out here covered in wheels McClane!"
I don't know anything about anything but why not just say 13 and 23 are closed until further notice please redirect. Short and sweet they don't need to know why
But again I don't know anything about anything
Reciprocal headings for each runway would need to be covered too (05/23 13/31), clearer just to say the airport is closed, go somewhere else.
Some of these pilots fly like they drive, terribly.
why don't these stupid people just say "airport closed for an emergency" rather than all this nonstandard BS noone needs to hear about?