Several hospitalized after a UNITED plane encounters WIND SHEAR on short final!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2024
- On March 29, 2024, United Airlines Flight UA85, operated by a Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner, traveling from Tel Aviv to Newark, was diverted due to dangerous high winds just before landing. The pilot safely landed the aircraft at Stewart International Airport at 6:45 p.m.
Approximately 11 hours into the flight, with over 300 passengers and crew on board, pilots reported "wind shear" and initiated a "go-around" maneuver when they were only 750 feet above the ground.
The flight eventually landed safely but was met by paramedics who attended to about 30 sickened passengers. Seven passengers with minor injuries were taken to Montefiore St. Luke’s Cornwall.
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For everyone grousing about "injury's, they should have been wearing seat belts" think of the physics. you're crammed into a 17.5 inch wide seat, and being tossed against the person next to you, the window seat bulk head if you're in a window seat. Aisle seats get tossed against the armrest with no upper body support for the lateral motion. The poor middle seater gets smooshed by the aisle and window seat passengers. Forward motion can be enough to whack your head into the seat in front of you..... and then send you back into the headrest in a whiplash motion. All while wearing your seatbelt.....
Gosh, it sounds like you were actually there, but you weren't?!
P.S. How are they being tossed around so much, if their seatbelts are holding them in?
Did they suddenly lose control over their arm and leg muscles? Their core muscles??
Or was this a Make-A-Wish for dying quadriplegics?
@@codymoe4986Never been in actual “severe turbulence”, have you?
@@codymoe4986 those seatbelts are lap belts only. Your entire torso is free to move in the horizontal plane. The belt mostly restricts vertical movement.
@@codymoe4986 5 years as a paramedic and Advanced Trauma Life Support Certified (ATLS) the whole time. Knowing the basic physics of a crash is paramount to understanding injury potential.
To my amazement, I was driving west on I-84, under the approach to SWF. I saw a plane on final, and could see it was a United 787. I thought it was odd since United doesn’t serve SWF. When I got home, I saw this all over the local news, and had my “ahah” moment.
We use Stewart all the time as an alternate airport
I DO NOT KNOW HOW ATC DOES IT! I was an RN/NP for 37 yrs & for me it would have been like having a code blue every 30-60 min on shift! Hats off to ATC’S
My niece is a flight attendant on United! Thankfully she wasn’t on this flight. 🙏Hope everyone will be okay.
She was , but she was not.
Why couldn’t you get the audio for the second landing attempt at steward?
Pretty sure everyone had their seatbelts fastened , due to the fact that were just about to land
What made them go there? Unless the shear was really bad and they didnt have enough fuel for another go around plus a diversion
I would be my guess they didn't have much fuel left as they had already flying for 11 hrs.
Probably legal requirements regarding fuel remaining.
The winds at EWR were 320 at 16, gusting to 26, and they were landing on runway 22, which means they were getting a rear quartering tail wind with pretty significant gusts on an 8200 ft runway. Stewart would give them a nearly 12,000 ft runway at a heading of 270 and give them a crosswind with a headwind component. So that, along with the probability that a second missed approach at EWR may have placed them in a significant min fuel position, my guess is that the captain figured that discretion was the smart play.
@@chaspfrank I was thinking that. It was still mostly crosswind though. However I know the winds over there can be treacherous. I really think it was not wanting to try again and having to go missed and be in an extremely low fuel situation. The fact they were already at min fuel after a go around is telling.
it was an 11 hour flight from europe, most likely near out of fuel, just get on the ground !!!
What would be the logic around going to Stewart? Could the wind shear have been turbulence from the parallel runway takeoff?
No, it was a very turbulent day
@@fire9110 22R at Y departures suggest EWR was landing 29 as a primary runway for strong west winds. At 6700 feet it's a little short for a 78X, whereas runway 27 at SWF offered nearly 12000 feet and a landing without a major crosswind component.
@@BrendanKaczmarek Departing 22R at Y is the standard, everyday southbound configuration at EWR. It is indeed partly to keep clear of Runway 29, but also it works better with the taxiway layout to sort and expedite a large number of departing aircraft.
A lot of information missing, there was no mention of injuries or that they asked for medical assistance.
Some of the frequencies don't exist on the liveatc. Most probably pilot gave all the required information on that atc sectors. I didn't reach them.
Why did they change airport?
Weather
Multiple passengers injured, not declaring... weird.
The pilots were busy flying, the flight attendants may not have known about injuries because they were on their jumpseats, the pilots either didn't know about injuries or flight attendants informed them they were minor injuries and didn't require immediate attention. Lots of reasons that it might not have been communicated during a diversion, being flown at 4000 feet. Crew Resource Management, and handled well by all.
the published winds and gusts don't seem that extreme. Weird...
Stewart International Airport is where Trump parks his Boeing 757. It can be seen on Google Maps on the ramp adjacent to the UPS Air Shipping Terminal, 141 Cargo Road on the north side of the field.
Go ahead, blame Boeing and united for mother nature acting up. We get it. Just like network news.
I think they are doing a pretty good job screwing up on their own without needing additional help...
First time watching a video on this channel. Are the comments usually this insanely braindead re: injuries and fucking wind?
Easy Goober, not everyone is as conversant in "airplane" as you apparently are! 🏆
Why did they divert?
Weather.
Should have wind shear detectors on approach.
Oh, for the love of God, it's a go around and a divert. This ridiculous media coverage of the airlines needs to stop. These are everyday events that have been happening forever.
Great job FAA being on the 22's and not the 4's at EWR. Nothing like a severe tailwind with a crosswind component. This is the FAA with EWR's configuration and decision making process being part of NYTRACON which are some of their best controllers. I can't wait to see the different facility out of the region handling these decisions and coordinating with NYTRACON on runways and the approach in use. It will only get worse, and incidents like this will happen more. Flying the unfriendly skies.
@s2v8377 neither controllers nor the FAA decides which runway to use. The airport owners do. In most cases it’s an airport authority managed by the local government. It is their responsibility to open and close runways, and they can dictate which runways. Approaches, etc are available. The controller can only operate within this framework. They can ask for specific things, but often aren’t allowed. Ultimately it is the pilot’s choices whether or not to except a runway assignment.
From my understanding, Newark, La Guardia, and JFK all have to use the same runway configuration to keep the New York traffic patterns as stable as possible. They each have runways 04/22 and 13/31, except for EWR which has 11/29 (rarely used though).
Runway selection is collaborative between four different airports, but EWR can land 29 while departing/landing the 22's. 22R at Y departures suggest 29 was the arrival runway except for the heavies who usually request 22L. If there was truly a tailwind for the 22's, usually once the wind hits 320 degrees (or beyond) they'll run a straight 4L/4R operation with no accommodation for 29. Seems like some bad shear/gusts that caught out someone landing with a strong crosswind is all.
@@BrendanKaczmarek th-cam.com/video/dZY-A0hExkc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GwCyeDZxrgZH-1pt Yes, I know. In fact, I have a video of me landing in a 747 on EWR runway 29. The video quality isn’t too good.
@@efoxxok7478 You are absolutely wrong. As a 38-years-long airport manager, I can tell you that airport operators ("owners") do not and legally cannot make decisions about which open runways pilots and air traffic control (ATC) should use. Airport operators can only open and close runways, they can't dictate which ones or which directions (unless making a permanent prohibition or restriction with full FAA review and approval). ATC decides what configurations to run, and pilots are free to accept or decline any runway assignments.
That doesn't make sense. Why go to Stewart?
In a news report, it was stated that "a United Airlines Boeing 787 flight was forced to make an emergency landing after wind shear injured passengers on board as the pilot feared he would run out of fuel". Also, in conversations, "minimum fuel" was mentioned. Pilots might not have risked attempting another go-around after encountering wind shear again.
Why not? Low traffic and closest.
Stewart takes diversions from the other New York airports frequently in bad weather.
Direction of the wind and length of the runway.
What's that strange smell??
That kids teddy bear hit me in the head - Wounded on board ! WTF ?
Well, the flight was from Tel Aviv. That would explain the big drama.
@@DennisUpdates You mean there are no dramas on other flights that have suffered severe turbulence??
When did "position and hold" turn into "line up and wait"??? Huh??
Years ago. Thats to keep the ICAO standard phraseology.
Back in 2010.
I know you're not scared of a little wind, Scooby?
Winds in newark rejected the Juice onboard
Passengers should all have been secured in their seats at that point -- how were thirty "sickened" and seven injured?
Thirty people throwing up, perhaps, if it was a very turbulent approach. I never get motion sickness and it happened to me and a few others once going into LGA. I was supposed to connect to my flight home but that flight was cancelled. Only time I've been thankful for a cancelled flight!
Sickened I can see injured I can't.
@@Boodieman72let me help. here's what they see: $ 😅
@@Boodieman72 see my above comment about physics. Yes, it's very possible to be hurt while wearing a seatbelt
@@Boodieman72 I have the opposite reaction -- passengers not wearing seat belts can be thrown against the ceiling and injured in an instant, but motion sickness takes longer to develop.
Pilots flustered AF. Something else going on.
There's always something else going on. Wind shear escape maneuver, go around, talk to ATC check fuel, get weather for alternate, talk to flight attendants, talk to passengers, advise dispatch they're diverting, set up for new approach, calculate landing speeds, call the paramedics...etc etc etc.
Busy being busy isn't the same as being flustered.
Such as? Or could it just be a very windy day as it was all over the coast and Midwest? At the end of a long international flight?
You know nothing.....Captain TH-cam.
Because dangerous wind shear isn’t real?
Not surprising, long-haul pilots go around a lot less frequent than short-haul pilots.
Having just flown on united with a collective 6 hour delay, it’s no surprise. Relaxed hiring standards along with DEI have created a recipe for death and disaster.
DEI doesn't cause weather though... 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
You have to wear your seat belt in your auto, so wouldn't you think it would be smart to wear in a passenger plane?
Equity hiring...
This time of year, winds not that bad, likely a overreaction by the pilots
The dumbest reply in the history of you tube.
Yes, winds are completely unchanged for months at a time during a “time of year”. 😂. Pax taken to a hospital for no real reason.
another computer ATP
Happened to me over Macho Grande, I don't think I'll ever get over that
"UA85 ... who's flying the plane?"
"Tower, UA85 with you. Our new diversity hire is at the controls."
"UA 85 ... go around!" 😂
Hamas wind attack?
Nope, it was a bad Hummus attack... much wind....